September 23, 2024 • 23 mins
Head Coach John Harbaugh speaks with the media.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Ravens Presspass podcast. It is Monday, September
twenty third, and the Ravens got the first win of
the season on Sunday over the Dallas Cowboys. Today we
had a chance to hear from head coach John Harbaugh
during his weekly Monday afternoon presser.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Shit, you guys being here. Got back last night pretty late,
most a lot of coaches. We came in, worked, went
to sleep, got up, worked again. So we're getting into
the grind now for Buffalo they play tonight, so probably
watch it game on TV like like you guys, like
everybody else, But do all the work we can up
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until that point and be a big, big tough challenge
for us Sunday night football.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Our crowd looking forward.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
To that, So be a big AFC game, and we're
gonna have to, you know, continue to improve a lot
to be ready for that challenge.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So what questions you have? First, happy birthday for you,
Thank you Davison.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
With Justin Tucker, he's now missed the people in each
of the first games, which is not like all wide left.
What do you mean from from the missus? And it
also I think the TV showed that you talked to
Justin after the like as soon as the game ended.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
What was part of that conversation as well.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, from a conversation standpoint, just uh, and we're we're
pretty close. You know, we've been together for a long
time and we've had a lot of conversations and uh,
you know, we know each other. So that was just
just two guys talking about you know, where we're at.
And I just love the guy, respect him. Uh, he's uh,
he's everything that you want and a player and a friend.
So that was really the basis of that. But beyond that,
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you know, for Justin, it's just a technique issue right
now that he's working through. I think he's he's got
a technique thing going on, and uh, he'll work through it.
He knows exactly what it is and just needs to smooth.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It back out. And I'm very confident that he will coach.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
What do you say, philis fourt's the biggest challenge as
far as it got scored in the fourth quarter in
the past few games.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, I mean the two things go to go to that,
you know, pass rush and pass coverage tie together, you know,
so we definitely were rushing the past her well, but
we can be a little more consistent in terms of
our rush lanes and some of our games and things
like that, and then being on point with that, and
then coverage is just getting a little loose in the
fourth quarter for whatever reason. So that's something that we
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just have to just understand. Sometimes the call is going
to go against you. It may may be right, it
may not be right, but you can't let that change
the way you play. You still got to play the
coverage the way it's played. If it's an inside leverage,
you play inside leverage. You know, if it's if it's
supposed to be down on a route, it's supposed to
be down on the route, get.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Down on it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So don't don't don't be playing like not to give
up the big play all the time.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You just play the defense away. It's been played.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And we've got really good players back there, and I'd
like to see them play that way from a conference standpoint,
the way they did the rest of the game. You know,
we were we were forcing a lot of tight window
throws in the first half. Play the same way in
the third quarter, and then play even more that way
in the fourth quarter and make them earn it. And
I do think sometimes we're just getting a little maybe
it's on their brain, weighing in our brains a little
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bit about not letting that happen. Then there, then it happens.
So uh we're capable of We just got to get
it done. Could would you were you giving the explanation
of the away tackle? Uh, they said that he lifted
them up and dumped him into the ground.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
That's what they said that they saw.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
After the tape.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Are there were a number of maybe calls that Joe
said dyck in the league and gave clarification on anything.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not allowed to comment
on that, you know, But like I always say, you know,
the best I can say is the things that we
that we can see are wrong, that we'll uh that
we'll coach our guys on.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The things that we can say that we can't see
that are wrong, we'll ask the league about and if
they confirmed that they're that you know that that it
you know, it wasn't a wrong played by the guy,
we'll let them know.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You know, It's all we can really do.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
But uh, you know, there there are some some head scratchers,
but there's also someone that are And when you have
the number that we have right now, it's too many.
I mean, I mean, that's just something that's got cleaned up.
So the ones that that maybe shouldn't be called and
we can't do anything about those, but the ones that
should be called, we got to clean those up. And
that's on us. It's our responsibility to do it. It's
hurting us. I mean, it's costing us points in the end. So, uh,
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that's a matter of playing football the right way and
all those situations. And I guarantee you we're going to
be on our guys that do it right. They want
to do it the right way. It's our responsibility to
make sure they do it the right way all the
time as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And we got to get better at that.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
John, as you ever from a look like there's a
long conversation with Tolbert on the.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Sideline after the legal clutching penalty or on a near safety.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
Did you get an explanation for why that wasn't potential.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Ground in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, I've never heard of this before, and I guess
I don't know if it's something that kind of came
up there, if they've seen this before, I'm not sure
but they said that it's not it's not intentional grounding
because somebody caught it, even though it's an illegal receiver
that caught it, which is a penalty. So basically they
get rewarded for having a penalty there. You know, that's
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kind of probably not what they what they want by
the rules.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Maybe it's a loophole in the rule. I'm not sure,
something they'll probably look at. But but because he because
because a receiver caught it, you can't call intentional grounding
even though it's an illegal receiver and there's no eligible
receiver in the area which would constitute grounding. So that's
kind of how they That's what he explained to me.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Going back to Justin Tucker, feels like maybe the first
slum of his career. How have you approached coaching him,
working with him, and just something that seems foreign for
a guy that is the most accurate in.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
History, isn't that?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I mean Justin knows that we support him. I've tried
to make sure he knows that. You know, that's part
of it, just relationship wise. I mean, the talent, the ability,
all that stuff is there. You know that hasn't gone anywhere.
We see it all the time. But it's a technique thing.
I think we're approaching from a technical standpoint. Randy Brown
does a great job coaching that part of it. That's
that's Randy's Uh, Randy's the foremost guy in the business
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at that, So they work on that every single day.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
For me, I just try to encourage what I see
and understand with the technique as well. But uh, Justin's
a pro, you know, and I have a great belief
that he'll he'll get the job done, He'll get.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Related to what you were saying about the pass coverage earlier,
to think you guys are second in giving the tight ends,
second in your passengers given up between the hashes.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Are you concerned?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I mean, especially when you look at the spinal defense
to some of your best players, you concern about what's
going on in the middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Are going absolutely absolutely, it's uh it's the easiest place
to complete passes in the middle of the field, you know,
and uh, you know, you got to get between the
quarterback and the football and uh, we're not doing a
good job with that.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So it's got to stop. We've got to pus stop
to it.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
You when you got to you're sort of closer. Second,
look at the offensive line, did you come away? I mean,
I guess what out your visions?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Did you come away with them?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Did that sort of redelli or confidence in that group
going forward?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean I just think I think we took a step.
You know, we took a step offensive line as a team.
The good news is we came a long way and
the good news is we have a long way to go.
And that's good news because that gives us an opportunity
to get a lot better. So I see great upside
in our whole team. I also see upside and great
upside in our offensive line. But by no means we're
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we perfect anywhere. You know, on the offensive line, they
played well. We got a lot of rushing yards, but
there's plenty of things to get better.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
At this line.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
A couple of the guys really made a point to
shout out Daniel follow that yeah list for me. And
you can get questions about coming into the possion in
reviewing the tape. What did you like about how he played?
And you know, you know, improvement and everything. What do
you didn't make a difference?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, yeah, I mean, you know, he's a young player
and he's growing. I think I think he just had
a little more a sense of like understanding of what
it was going to take. You know, he wasn't playing tentative.
Maybe he played a little tentative maybe early on if
you want to just get dig into psychology. But he
played with more aggressiveness. You know, he came off the ball,
he moved people, he knocked people off the ball, he
got up on linebackers, he cut people off, he knocked
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down blocks down across you know, he knocked tackles across
the center sometimes. You know, some things that made those
runs really go. He was a big part of that,
along with the other guys.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So that was good, and yet there were other things
that he didn't do as well, and he knows that
he can keep getting better at so again, Daniel came
a long way in that game. I think he's kind
of indicative of that whole statement. And the good news
is he's got a long way to go, and he's, uh,
he's capable of so much more.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Head sets for years and then had a card and
part of that, you know, this weaking particular, is there
something with those bigger sets that we all against the.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Cowboys, and you feel like some of the.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Packages are essential going forward in the coming week.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean we have, we have. We live in
a lot of worlds football wise. With our versatility, it's
it's uh, I think it's a strength. Sometimes it can
be considered not you know, some teams come out and
they play eleven personnel of the whole game and spread
you out and don't motion anybody. Sometimes they use motion.
Different teams have different approaches. I think one of our
approaches is that we have a lot of multiple personnel
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groups that we use. That's kind of the way we go.
So from one game to the next, you'll probably see
different emphasis in different places probably, But to be able
to you know, to be able to run the ball,
we call it must run when you really want to
run the ball and do it out of big groups
that protect the edges and all that. That's that's something
kind of in our in our DNA a little bit
been that way a long time. So we want to
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We definitely want to live in that world if we can.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
That's only the topic.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
The tight ends in the versatility they share its perimeter blockers, right, Yes,
how important is that especially is you know, Mark and
Isaiah pass catching guys to show themselves as blockers. How
important is that in the offense.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's such a great point, Ryan, I mean the perimeter
blocking was okay the first two weeks. It was outstanding
in this game. Those guys, I'm gonna tell you what.
Mark Andrews might have had three four pancakes. Isaiah likely was.
He was he's he was out there reaching guys. The
wide receivers had our best blocking game in a long time.
I mean, those guys were blocking. I can can think
of Nelson Agular coming down and getting the free safety
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something well right over the ball one time, which is
kind of you don't see that too often. Zay likely
Crack blocking down on defensive end. Those kinds of things
are really what make to me that kind of unselfish play,
you know, being willing to you know, there's one ball
carrier and there's ten blockers, so to speak. I mean
even Lamars a blocker when he carries out a fake say,
you know, you're all helping.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
The ball carrier one way or another.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And our guys are really buying into that, you know,
and that's something that we just got to keep building on.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Andrews played in many fewer snaps then he wouldn't maybe
to Was that purely a matter of the style that
you guys ended up playing.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, I mean you had a lot of big groups
out there, kind of to your point about the personnel
groups and stuff like that. I think guys will play
different amounts different games, you know, with our different guys
that we have.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I think I did not bring this up a week
or two ago.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
We'd go one way and then that someone wouldn't playing,
and then that question would be why didn't that guy play?
You know, I think that's probably gonna be something that
would be every week. You know, they'll always be you know,
somebody didn't get the ball thrown to him, or didn't
get many touches, or it wasn't on the field as much.
It's probably gonna be a part of the game plan
each week, and a lot a lot of it's how
the game goes too, you know. But Mark did what
he was asked to do in the game, you know,
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and just to just turn out that way. It wasn't
like he wasn't in the pass routes he couldn't have
got He could have been thrown the ball just didn't
come his way, but the blocks came his way. You know,
he was out there blocking those guys and he did
a great job.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Nick Wagins got cleared and then he was essentially started.
Did get hit with a couple of penalties.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
But what did you see from him? And where is
he at now?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I think they competed real hard out there.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I think Nate that was a learning game for Nate probably,
you know, he he had some really good plays. He
knocked that ball out down there going in. That was
a massive play for us. So proud of him for that.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And then other times I think he learned, you know
NFL football sometimes. I mean, we got one passer inference
penalty where he didn't even touch the guy. So but
he got another one where we grabbed the guy, you know.
So uh, you know, you gotta learn from that, and
he will. Some of the leverages he'll learn from. But
Nate's a competitor, He's tough, he wants to be good.
Love everything about you know, who he is and where
he's going as a player.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Grab the you know the United session and film further
warning they you know that context where you kind of
seen from Zach for a real tough job coming game
from what the defense was last year. And second hear
he hasn't been with you know what he wants. What
are you kind of seeing as he addresses those issues and.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Really kind of.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, that's the challenge of coaching. You know, you want
everything to go great, and you know we're coaching so
many things. You know, the structure of the defense is
the same. You know, there's things that have been added,
but that's none of those things are causing any problems.
It's just to base some basic execution. Really in the
fourth quarter of games. That's really what the issue has been.
And uh, and that's got to get cleaned up. And
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that's you know, guys knowing what to do and they
do and just doing it. So I think zactually doing
a good job of letting those guys. He's been very
clear about what he expects. He's done a great job
of making the corrections, uh, drilling the corrections, getting the
corrections practiced, you know, and and then the guy's got
to go out there and do it and they will.
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So nothing ever comes too easy. Sometimes it comes easy.
And first three or four games and it's like, man,
this is this is the best of something that there's
ever been, and all of a sudden it's not so
good anymore. You know, there's always this kind of process
and evolution and nothing ever, nothing's ever is good, nothing's
ever as bad sometimes as it seems. Is that way
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in football for sure. So I when I watch the
details of the defense, you know, and we walked, we
talked through all that stuff, we can see where the
issues are and and you just fix them, you know,
and then in steadily you play better. And it's not
so much that we have to that we have like
we're at this level and we're not good or we
gotta It's just we gotta play more consistently. You know
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that we played the way we played in the first
half should be the way we play the whole game.
I mean, just play that way the whole game. We're
capable of doing it, uh, and let's go do it.
Speaker 8 (14:31):
John with Derek Henry, how impressed were you watching the
game back? I mean it's kind of vintage Derek that
we saw yesterday and kind of his first breakout game.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Did you see his suit and his hat? Huh? Was
that impressive? That was?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I was impressed with the suit and the hat. But
that was a lot more impressed with the game. You know,
as a football coach, man, I'd tell you that was
that was that was that was fun. And you know
it's like Derek's it's a team effort. Football is a
team game. But we gave him some space or offensive line.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
The scheme.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I thought the game plan was really good. Thought Lamar
created some space for him as well. Like you said,
you guys all said the perimeter blocking all that stuff
created the space that he needed to go be who
he is, and he was who he is. He made
a couple of runs too with vision, you know, where
he'd start inside and bounce outside there, you know, or
he'd cut back. You know, he saw some things that
you know that not every back seats all the time.
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So and then once he gets that momentum going, man,
he's tough, he's he's he's he's different. So yeah, I
was excited about that.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
He talked after the game that he challenged the offensive
line to you know, improve and to push them to
support that he was working out with them and just
what can you say about that kind of leadership and
how he approached it that resonates with your team.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, well, he's highly respected and he's a really good person,
and he really supportive of the guys. You know, he's
that kind of a guy. So he challenges him in
a way. I think that is, you know, you're capable
of of of so much more. Let's let's go be that,
you know, and then and then, like you said, dig
in there and work with him on it. You know,
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that's I think what he talked about, right, So yeah,
I mean you see it. He's on there in pre practice.
You guys saw him last week before practice working with
the guys in the past protection stuff out there before
when the special teams are going. So that's that's that's
genuine leadership coach.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
With lamar Is tying to throw has kind of significantly
decreased on over the past three weeks, almost half a
second less from week one.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Lamar's time to throw drop significantly, I.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Mean, getting getting the ball out quicker. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Is that kind of something that's support of the game plan,
especially going up against a guy like Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, I mean, I think on time rhythm passing is important.
You know, that's something that we want to we want
to be able to be good at because it takes
pressure off of the protection, It takes pressure off the route,
It takes pressure off Lamar. Uh, that should be a
big part of what we do. I mean, even like the.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Boot early to Charlie.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You know that's that's a play action pass and misdirection
pass we call movement pass. But the balls out pretty
quick there, right, So those kind of things. The more
we can do those things, keep the defense, you know,
hit him quick, keep them moving, get him going one way,
throw it the other way, or Lamar makes a read
and brings it back over here with a quick throw.
Those are those are yards at execution yards that really
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take a lot of pressure off the rest of the
the rest of the format.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Longer's Life talked about the mores play faking earlier and
hit ball handling.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It actually a little look. Exceptionally at times on TV
you couldn't even tell who had the ball. How important
is that? Now?
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Taking to the offense to another level and they don't
press for you.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
What you watched, Yeah, I was impressed. I was looking
the wrong way a couple of times. You know, that's
what you want to tell them. If you fool me, man,
that's that's uh, You're you're you're doing. You're definitely fooling
the defense. But uh, that's been a big part of
our offense for quite a few years now, right, and
I think the fact that we've been able to maintain
that through this transition style wise a little bit has
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been really important because it's just one of the things
that makes Lamar unique.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
You know, he's got.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Amazing ability, you know with his hands, you know, and
to do that some of that stuff that he does
just so naturally is pretty rare. So we've got to
take advantage of it. I mean, you got to You
got to use that. Someone has a gift like that,
you have to use it. And uh, I think seeing
it pay off, it's it's something the defense is. I
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hear every week about how who's playing Lamar at quarterback
and how they're working out stuff. That's kind of what
they're talking about. You know, that has to be respected.
They have to spend time on that.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
On you said, every game is the must win situation,
but just based on NFL history, oh and three seem
like almost a test sentence as he got there.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Well, no one wanted that. You know, that's not something
that we wanted. So you know, that's what made the
fourth quarter so interesting, you know. I mean, it was
it was it was. It was tough, you know, it
was challenging fourth quarter. I was proud of the guys
in the sense that they finished.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I would have liked to have seen the job done
a little sooner, you know, but but they've that. But
we finished, you know, and at the end of the day,
you have to you have to you have to find
a way to finish and get the job done. And
they did so with that, we just got to get better,
you know, with all the little things that we do
and and you know, get stops in the fourth quarter,
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get first downs in the fourth quarter, put points on
the board, and we have a chance to do it
all those things that guys know about.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Some one's talked about what was shot and capable of
when you get opportunities.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
What are your thoughts about what he was able to yesterday?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, I was really happy, you know for a shot.
I just feel like I feel like he's open a lot,
you know, because he runs such good routes and uh
and Lamar finds him, you know, and it's starting to
just really grow. So you know, we've got the two
young wide receivers out there, and I talk to those
guys all the time about they're the future and the present,
you know, and we've got the tight ends and we've
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got the veteran Nelly you know, doing his thing in there,
and you see Tayland will go out there and you know,
he makes his plays and sometimes he does the dirty work,
you know, and he does it so well Justice Hill,
you know, I mean, all all these guys are just
critical elements of what we're trying to do. And but
bait baits upside is phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Okay that they recovered was it?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Is there any detail to coach beyond just pick the
ball up?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I mean, or like what what do you take them?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Well, yeah, there's there's there's kind of a technique to
that, and I think sometimes you get a little over anxious
sometimes maybe, but you know, that's that kick is. It's
not a new kick. It's been around for about four years.
That little slide roller that bows back. Uh, it's on turf.
You know, we don't we don't play on turf a lot,
so maybe that was a little bit different for us,
But I think it's something that we just have to
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It's like everything else, you got to chase every detail,
and you try to be in front of everything as
much as you can. But I promise you that we're
gonna spend some time this week for all those guys
picking up all those kicks on turf.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
And on grass. You know, we'll do that, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And then sometimes you just got to go, okay, boy,
let's let's got it's got to get your attention. And
you can't can't overlook something like that when it comes up,
because that would have sealed the game, game was over.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I was happy when they went on side kick. I
was happy. I was like, all right, well we'll get
this on side kick.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
We'll go down there, we'll get points, more time will
be off the clock, and the game is going to
be ours, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And and we we.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Cracked the door open. We we opened the door a
little bit there. And that's that's what you got to
learn as a team. Uh and our guys know that,
and you just got to go do it. And once
you start doing that, you start closing the door on people.
You start kind of choking the life out of the
out of the game a little bit. That's when you
become a really good closing football team. And we're going
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to get there, all right.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Job about the help kicking, I believe the Cowboys were
able to kick a third onside kick because of the
kick off rule. Is that something that.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Strange to you?
Speaker 6 (22:06):
So the Cowboys could not kick a third on site
kick as the new kickoff a little stick that you
were only allowed to do two onside kicks in the
fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I'm gonna have to claim ignorance on that.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I gotta be honest with you. I mean, I'm just
being honest here. I didn't know that role, so uh yeah,
is that right?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Your opinion on that.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I don't know why that.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I don't I wouldn't know why they have that role,
to be honest with you, so I don't have an
opinion on it. Just I guess I'm grateful for it.
I don't know should I be. I'd rather have that
than not come up again, if that's okay?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Okay, all right? Thanks everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
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Welcome to the Ravens Presspass podcast. It is Monday, September
twenty third, and the Ravens got the first win of
the season on Sunday over the Dallas Cowboys. Today we
had a chance to hear from head coach John Harbaugh
during his weekly Monday afternoon presser.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Shit, you guys being here. Got back last night pretty late,
most a lot of coaches. We came in, worked, went
to sleep, got up, worked again. So we're getting into
the grind now for Buffalo they play tonight, so probably
watch it game on TV like like you guys, like
everybody else, But do all the work we can up
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until that point and be a big, big tough challenge
for us Sunday night football.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Our crowd looking forward.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
To that, So be a big AFC game, and we're
gonna have to, you know, continue to improve a lot
to be ready for that challenge.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So what questions you have? First, happy birthday for you,
Thank you Davison.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
With Justin Tucker, he's now missed the people in each
of the first games, which is not like all wide left.
What do you mean from from the missus? And it
also I think the TV showed that you talked to
Justin after the like as soon as the game ended.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
What was part of that conversation as well.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, from a conversation standpoint, just uh, and we're we're
pretty close. You know, we've been together for a long
time and we've had a lot of conversations and uh,
you know, we know each other. So that was just
just two guys talking about you know, where we're at.
And I just love the guy, respect him. Uh, he's uh,
he's everything that you want and a player and a friend.
So that was really the basis of that. But beyond that,
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you know, for Justin, it's just a technique issue right
now that he's working through. I think he's he's got
a technique thing going on, and uh, he'll work through it.
He knows exactly what it is and just needs to smooth.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It back out. And I'm very confident that he will coach.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
What do you say, philis fourt's the biggest challenge as
far as it got scored in the fourth quarter in
the past few games.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, I mean the two things go to go to that,
you know, pass rush and pass coverage tie together, you know,
so we definitely were rushing the past her well, but
we can be a little more consistent in terms of
our rush lanes and some of our games and things
like that, and then being on point with that, and
then coverage is just getting a little loose in the
fourth quarter for whatever reason. So that's something that we
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just have to just understand. Sometimes the call is going
to go against you. It may may be right, it
may not be right, but you can't let that change
the way you play. You still got to play the
coverage the way it's played. If it's an inside leverage,
you play inside leverage. You know, if it's if it's
supposed to be down on a route, it's supposed to
be down on the route, get.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Down on it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So don't don't don't be playing like not to give
up the big play all the time.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You just play the defense away. It's been played.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And we've got really good players back there, and I'd
like to see them play that way from a conference standpoint,
the way they did the rest of the game. You know,
we were we were forcing a lot of tight window
throws in the first half. Play the same way in
the third quarter, and then play even more that way
in the fourth quarter and make them earn it. And
I do think sometimes we're just getting a little maybe
it's on their brain, weighing in our brains a little
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bit about not letting that happen. Then there, then it happens.
So uh we're capable of We just got to get
it done. Could would you were you giving the explanation
of the away tackle? Uh, they said that he lifted
them up and dumped him into the ground.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
That's what they said that they saw.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
After the tape.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Are there were a number of maybe calls that Joe
said dyck in the league and gave clarification on anything.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not allowed to comment
on that, you know, But like I always say, you know,
the best I can say is the things that we
that we can see are wrong, that we'll uh that
we'll coach our guys on.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The things that we can say that we can't see
that are wrong, we'll ask the league about and if
they confirmed that they're that you know that that it
you know, it wasn't a wrong played by the guy,
we'll let them know.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You know, It's all we can really do.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
But uh, you know, there there are some some head scratchers,
but there's also someone that are And when you have
the number that we have right now, it's too many.
I mean, I mean, that's just something that's got cleaned up.
So the ones that that maybe shouldn't be called and
we can't do anything about those, but the ones that
should be called, we got to clean those up. And
that's on us. It's our responsibility to do it. It's
hurting us. I mean, it's costing us points in the end. So, uh,
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that's a matter of playing football the right way and
all those situations. And I guarantee you we're going to
be on our guys that do it right. They want
to do it the right way. It's our responsibility to
make sure they do it the right way all the
time as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And we got to get better at that.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
John, as you ever from a look like there's a
long conversation with Tolbert on the.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Sideline after the legal clutching penalty or on a near safety.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
Did you get an explanation for why that wasn't potential.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Ground in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, I've never heard of this before, and I guess
I don't know if it's something that kind of came
up there, if they've seen this before, I'm not sure
but they said that it's not it's not intentional grounding
because somebody caught it, even though it's an illegal receiver
that caught it, which is a penalty. So basically they
get rewarded for having a penalty there. You know, that's
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kind of probably not what they what they want by
the rules.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Maybe it's a loophole in the rule. I'm not sure,
something they'll probably look at. But but because he because
because a receiver caught it, you can't call intentional grounding
even though it's an illegal receiver and there's no eligible
receiver in the area which would constitute grounding. So that's
kind of how they That's what he explained to me.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Going back to Justin Tucker, feels like maybe the first
slum of his career. How have you approached coaching him,
working with him, and just something that seems foreign for
a guy that is the most accurate in.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
History, isn't that?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I mean Justin knows that we support him. I've tried
to make sure he knows that. You know, that's part
of it, just relationship wise. I mean, the talent, the ability,
all that stuff is there. You know that hasn't gone anywhere.
We see it all the time. But it's a technique thing.
I think we're approaching from a technical standpoint. Randy Brown
does a great job coaching that part of it. That's
that's Randy's Uh, Randy's the foremost guy in the business
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at that, So they work on that every single day.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
For me, I just try to encourage what I see
and understand with the technique as well. But uh, Justin's
a pro, you know, and I have a great belief
that he'll he'll get the job done, He'll get.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Related to what you were saying about the pass coverage earlier,
to think you guys are second in giving the tight ends,
second in your passengers given up between the hashes.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Are you concerned?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I mean, especially when you look at the spinal defense
to some of your best players, you concern about what's
going on in the middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Are going absolutely absolutely, it's uh it's the easiest place
to complete passes in the middle of the field, you know,
and uh, you know, you got to get between the
quarterback and the football and uh, we're not doing a
good job with that.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So it's got to stop. We've got to pus stop
to it.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
You when you got to you're sort of closer. Second,
look at the offensive line, did you come away? I mean,
I guess what out your visions?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Did you come away with them?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Did that sort of redelli or confidence in that group
going forward?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean I just think I think we took a step.
You know, we took a step offensive line as a team.
The good news is we came a long way and
the good news is we have a long way to go.
And that's good news because that gives us an opportunity
to get a lot better. So I see great upside
in our whole team. I also see upside and great
upside in our offensive line. But by no means we're
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we perfect anywhere. You know, on the offensive line, they
played well. We got a lot of rushing yards, but
there's plenty of things to get better.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
At this line.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
A couple of the guys really made a point to
shout out Daniel follow that yeah list for me. And
you can get questions about coming into the possion in
reviewing the tape. What did you like about how he played?
And you know, you know, improvement and everything. What do
you didn't make a difference?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, yeah, I mean, you know, he's a young player
and he's growing. I think I think he just had
a little more a sense of like understanding of what
it was going to take. You know, he wasn't playing tentative.
Maybe he played a little tentative maybe early on if
you want to just get dig into psychology. But he
played with more aggressiveness. You know, he came off the ball,
he moved people, he knocked people off the ball, he
got up on linebackers, he cut people off, he knocked
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down blocks down across you know, he knocked tackles across
the center sometimes. You know, some things that made those
runs really go. He was a big part of that,
along with the other guys.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So that was good, and yet there were other things
that he didn't do as well, and he knows that
he can keep getting better at so again, Daniel came
a long way in that game. I think he's kind
of indicative of that whole statement. And the good news
is he's got a long way to go, and he's, uh,
he's capable of so much more.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Head sets for years and then had a card and
part of that, you know, this weaking particular, is there
something with those bigger sets that we all against the.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Cowboys, and you feel like some of the.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Packages are essential going forward in the coming week.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean we have, we have. We live in
a lot of worlds football wise. With our versatility, it's
it's uh, I think it's a strength. Sometimes it can
be considered not you know, some teams come out and
they play eleven personnel of the whole game and spread
you out and don't motion anybody. Sometimes they use motion.
Different teams have different approaches. I think one of our
approaches is that we have a lot of multiple personnel
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groups that we use. That's kind of the way we go.
So from one game to the next, you'll probably see
different emphasis in different places probably, But to be able
to you know, to be able to run the ball,
we call it must run when you really want to
run the ball and do it out of big groups
that protect the edges and all that. That's that's something
kind of in our in our DNA a little bit
been that way a long time. So we want to
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We definitely want to live in that world if we can.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
That's only the topic.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
The tight ends in the versatility they share its perimeter blockers, right, Yes,
how important is that especially is you know, Mark and
Isaiah pass catching guys to show themselves as blockers. How
important is that in the offense.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's such a great point, Ryan, I mean the perimeter
blocking was okay the first two weeks. It was outstanding
in this game. Those guys, I'm gonna tell you what.
Mark Andrews might have had three four pancakes. Isaiah likely was.
He was he's he was out there reaching guys. The
wide receivers had our best blocking game in a long time.
I mean, those guys were blocking. I can can think
of Nelson Agular coming down and getting the free safety
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something well right over the ball one time, which is
kind of you don't see that too often. Zay likely
Crack blocking down on defensive end. Those kinds of things
are really what make to me that kind of unselfish play,
you know, being willing to you know, there's one ball
carrier and there's ten blockers, so to speak. I mean
even Lamars a blocker when he carries out a fake say,
you know, you're all helping.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
The ball carrier one way or another.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And our guys are really buying into that, you know,
and that's something that we just got to keep building on.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Andrews played in many fewer snaps then he wouldn't maybe
to Was that purely a matter of the style that
you guys ended up playing.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, I mean you had a lot of big groups
out there, kind of to your point about the personnel
groups and stuff like that. I think guys will play
different amounts different games, you know, with our different guys
that we have.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I think I did not bring this up a week
or two ago.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
We'd go one way and then that someone wouldn't playing,
and then that question would be why didn't that guy play?
You know, I think that's probably gonna be something that
would be every week. You know, they'll always be you know,
somebody didn't get the ball thrown to him, or didn't
get many touches, or it wasn't on the field as much.
It's probably gonna be a part of the game plan
each week, and a lot a lot of it's how
the game goes too, you know. But Mark did what
he was asked to do in the game, you know,
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and just to just turn out that way. It wasn't
like he wasn't in the pass routes he couldn't have
got He could have been thrown the ball just didn't
come his way, but the blocks came his way. You know,
he was out there blocking those guys and he did
a great job.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Nick Wagins got cleared and then he was essentially started.
Did get hit with a couple of penalties.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
But what did you see from him? And where is
he at now?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I think they competed real hard out there.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I think Nate that was a learning game for Nate probably,
you know, he he had some really good plays. He
knocked that ball out down there going in. That was
a massive play for us. So proud of him for that.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And then other times I think he learned, you know
NFL football sometimes. I mean, we got one passer inference
penalty where he didn't even touch the guy. So but
he got another one where we grabbed the guy, you know.
So uh, you know, you gotta learn from that, and
he will. Some of the leverages he'll learn from. But
Nate's a competitor, He's tough, he wants to be good.
Love everything about you know, who he is and where
he's going as a player.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Grab the you know the United session and film further
warning they you know that context where you kind of
seen from Zach for a real tough job coming game
from what the defense was last year. And second hear
he hasn't been with you know what he wants. What
are you kind of seeing as he addresses those issues and.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Really kind of.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, that's the challenge of coaching. You know, you want
everything to go great, and you know we're coaching so
many things. You know, the structure of the defense is
the same. You know, there's things that have been added,
but that's none of those things are causing any problems.
It's just to base some basic execution. Really in the
fourth quarter of games. That's really what the issue has been.
And uh, and that's got to get cleaned up. And
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that's you know, guys knowing what to do and they
do and just doing it. So I think zactually doing
a good job of letting those guys. He's been very
clear about what he expects. He's done a great job
of making the corrections, uh, drilling the corrections, getting the
corrections practiced, you know, and and then the guy's got
to go out there and do it and they will.
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So nothing ever comes too easy. Sometimes it comes easy.
And first three or four games and it's like, man,
this is this is the best of something that there's
ever been, and all of a sudden it's not so
good anymore. You know, there's always this kind of process
and evolution and nothing ever, nothing's ever is good, nothing's
ever as bad sometimes as it seems. Is that way
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in football for sure. So I when I watch the
details of the defense, you know, and we walked, we
talked through all that stuff, we can see where the
issues are and and you just fix them, you know,
and then in steadily you play better. And it's not
so much that we have to that we have like
we're at this level and we're not good or we
gotta It's just we gotta play more consistently. You know
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that we played the way we played in the first
half should be the way we play the whole game.
I mean, just play that way the whole game. We're
capable of doing it, uh, and let's go do it.
Speaker 8 (14:31):
John with Derek Henry, how impressed were you watching the
game back? I mean it's kind of vintage Derek that
we saw yesterday and kind of his first breakout game.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Did you see his suit and his hat? Huh? Was
that impressive? That was?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I was impressed with the suit and the hat. But
that was a lot more impressed with the game. You know,
as a football coach, man, I'd tell you that was
that was that was that was fun. And you know
it's like Derek's it's a team effort. Football is a
team game. But we gave him some space or offensive line.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
The scheme.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I thought the game plan was really good. Thought Lamar
created some space for him as well. Like you said,
you guys all said the perimeter blocking all that stuff
created the space that he needed to go be who
he is, and he was who he is. He made
a couple of runs too with vision, you know, where
he'd start inside and bounce outside there, you know, or
he'd cut back. You know, he saw some things that
you know that not every back seats all the time.
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So and then once he gets that momentum going, man,
he's tough, he's he's he's he's different. So yeah, I
was excited about that.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
He talked after the game that he challenged the offensive
line to you know, improve and to push them to
support that he was working out with them and just
what can you say about that kind of leadership and
how he approached it that resonates with your team.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, well, he's highly respected and he's a really good person,
and he really supportive of the guys. You know, he's
that kind of a guy. So he challenges him in
a way. I think that is, you know, you're capable
of of of so much more. Let's let's go be that,
you know, and then and then, like you said, dig
in there and work with him on it. You know,
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that's I think what he talked about, right, So yeah,
I mean you see it. He's on there in pre practice.
You guys saw him last week before practice working with
the guys in the past protection stuff out there before
when the special teams are going. So that's that's that's
genuine leadership coach.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
With lamar Is tying to throw has kind of significantly
decreased on over the past three weeks, almost half a
second less from week one.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Lamar's time to throw drop significantly, I.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Mean, getting getting the ball out quicker. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Is that kind of something that's support of the game plan,
especially going up against a guy like Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, I mean, I think on time rhythm passing is important.
You know, that's something that we want to we want
to be able to be good at because it takes
pressure off of the protection, It takes pressure off the route,
It takes pressure off Lamar. Uh, that should be a
big part of what we do. I mean, even like the.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Boot early to Charlie.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You know that's that's a play action pass and misdirection
pass we call movement pass. But the balls out pretty
quick there, right, So those kind of things. The more
we can do those things, keep the defense, you know,
hit him quick, keep them moving, get him going one way,
throw it the other way, or Lamar makes a read
and brings it back over here with a quick throw.
Those are those are yards at execution yards that really
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take a lot of pressure off the rest of the
the rest of the format.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Longer's Life talked about the mores play faking earlier and
hit ball handling.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It actually a little look. Exceptionally at times on TV
you couldn't even tell who had the ball. How important
is that? Now?
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Taking to the offense to another level and they don't
press for you.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
What you watched, Yeah, I was impressed. I was looking
the wrong way a couple of times. You know, that's
what you want to tell them. If you fool me, man,
that's that's uh, You're you're you're doing. You're definitely fooling
the defense. But uh, that's been a big part of
our offense for quite a few years now, right, and
I think the fact that we've been able to maintain
that through this transition style wise a little bit has
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been really important because it's just one of the things
that makes Lamar unique.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
You know, he's got.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Amazing ability, you know with his hands, you know, and
to do that some of that stuff that he does
just so naturally is pretty rare. So we've got to
take advantage of it. I mean, you got to You
got to use that. Someone has a gift like that,
you have to use it. And uh, I think seeing
it pay off, it's it's something the defense is. I
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hear every week about how who's playing Lamar at quarterback
and how they're working out stuff. That's kind of what
they're talking about. You know, that has to be respected.
They have to spend time on that.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
On you said, every game is the must win situation,
but just based on NFL history, oh and three seem
like almost a test sentence as he got there.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Well, no one wanted that. You know, that's not something
that we wanted. So you know, that's what made the
fourth quarter so interesting, you know. I mean, it was
it was it was. It was tough, you know, it
was challenging fourth quarter. I was proud of the guys
in the sense that they finished.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I would have liked to have seen the job done
a little sooner, you know, but but they've that. But
we finished, you know, and at the end of the day,
you have to you have to you have to find
a way to finish and get the job done. And
they did so with that, we just got to get better,
you know, with all the little things that we do
and and you know, get stops in the fourth quarter,
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get first downs in the fourth quarter, put points on
the board, and we have a chance to do it
all those things that guys know about.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Some one's talked about what was shot and capable of
when you get opportunities.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
What are your thoughts about what he was able to yesterday?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, I was really happy, you know for a shot.
I just feel like I feel like he's open a lot,
you know, because he runs such good routes and uh
and Lamar finds him, you know, and it's starting to
just really grow. So you know, we've got the two
young wide receivers out there, and I talk to those
guys all the time about they're the future and the present,
you know, and we've got the tight ends and we've
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got the veteran Nelly you know, doing his thing in there,
and you see Tayland will go out there and you know,
he makes his plays and sometimes he does the dirty work,
you know, and he does it so well Justice Hill,
you know, I mean, all all these guys are just
critical elements of what we're trying to do. And but
bait baits upside is phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Okay that they recovered was it?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Is there any detail to coach beyond just pick the
ball up?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I mean, or like what what do you take them?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Well, yeah, there's there's there's kind of a technique to
that, and I think sometimes you get a little over anxious
sometimes maybe, but you know, that's that kick is. It's
not a new kick. It's been around for about four years.
That little slide roller that bows back. Uh, it's on turf.
You know, we don't we don't play on turf a lot,
so maybe that was a little bit different for us,
But I think it's something that we just have to
(20:54):
It's like everything else, you got to chase every detail,
and you try to be in front of everything as
much as you can. But I promise you that we're
gonna spend some time this week for all those guys
picking up all those kicks on turf.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
And on grass. You know, we'll do that, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And then sometimes you just got to go, okay, boy,
let's let's got it's got to get your attention. And
you can't can't overlook something like that when it comes up,
because that would have sealed the game, game was over.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I was happy when they went on side kick. I
was happy. I was like, all right, well we'll get
this on side kick.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
We'll go down there, we'll get points, more time will
be off the clock, and the game is going to
be ours, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And and we we.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Cracked the door open. We we opened the door a
little bit there. And that's that's what you got to
learn as a team. Uh and our guys know that,
and you just got to go do it. And once
you start doing that, you start closing the door on people.
You start kind of choking the life out of the
out of the game a little bit. That's when you
become a really good closing football team. And we're going
(21:47):
to get there, all right.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Job about the help kicking, I believe the Cowboys were
able to kick a third onside kick because of the
kick off rule. Is that something that.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Strange to you?
Speaker 6 (22:06):
So the Cowboys could not kick a third on site
kick as the new kickoff a little stick that you
were only allowed to do two onside kicks in the
fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I'm gonna have to claim ignorance on that.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I gotta be honest with you. I mean, I'm just
being honest here. I didn't know that role, so uh yeah,
is that right?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Your opinion on that.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I don't know why that.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I don't I wouldn't know why they have that role,
to be honest with you, so I don't have an
opinion on it. Just I guess I'm grateful for it.
I don't know should I be. I'd rather have that
than not come up again, if that's okay?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Okay, all right? Thanks everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
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