September 30, 2024 • 21 mins
Head Coach John Harbaugh speaks with the media.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Ravens Press Pass podcast. It is Monday,
September thirtieth. The Ravens approved it two and two on
Sunday after taking down the Buffalo Bills thirty five to ten.
It was a complete victory for the Ravens. The offense
really relied on running back Derek Candergan on the ground game.
Henry had one hundred and ninety nine rushing yards at
a pair of touchdowns, and the Ravens Finch with two
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hundred and seventy one total rushing yards in the game.
The Ravens showed everyone that they are one of the
very best teams in football by taking down Buffalo, who
was undefeated coming into this game. Today, we had a
chance to hear from head coach John Harbball. Here's what
he had to say during his weekly press conference with
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the media.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
All Right, good to see everybody, appreciate you being here.
Let's go, Ohs, Let's go. Can't wait for that game
tomorrow afternoon at Camden Yards. Got to be honest with
probably won't be watching it, but be monitoring it very closely,
so sport those guys. We're excited for him and can't
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wait to see him go get after it in the playoffs.
Excited about our win last night. As you look at it,
we did many good things and things that we improved on.
We're building. I think we're grown as a football team.
We're kind of in that building phase, still trying to
stack practices and good plays every day and improvement. But
yet we have so many things that we can get
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better at that we need to get better at. So
many things that you'd like to have back from the
game and do better that we'll try our best to
learn from and we will learn from them, just like
we have in the past, you know, games before this.
So that's what we'll work on right now, trying to
put all this stuff together so we can get our
guys in here and have a great week of practice
to get ready for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
What question do you.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Have, John, You know, Derrick Henry you get had another
massive game. There was a lot of questions with him
being three years old and you know the track record
for running backs. Why do you think he is still
being so productive at this age when a lot of
running backs just are.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I mean, I'm sure it's different for every single person,
but I mean There's a lot of things about Derek
that make him unique. Talent is one of them, for sure,
and work ethic is another one for sure. He's a very,
very you know, just tough human being, for sure. But
he really the proof is in the results, and you
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kind of go by what you see. So we're evaluating
the possibility of bringing him in here. I think we
just looked at how he's been playing, you know, and
to see that continue on obviously is great. But we
did expect him to play this way and we're excited
about it.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
It's not a season with two losses, two wins, you're
talking about Stint even Keeld.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You know, it's a marathon a season. How do you
get your players players may be little more.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Emotional like coaches, how do you get them to buy
into that sort of philosophy.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
And that stay.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, you know, the players are pros too, you know,
and I think at this level, I think the there's
a real collaboration between coaches and players, especially nowadays.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Uh and in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, these these are these are grown men, you know,
these are guys that are professionals.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
They they take their careers very seriously.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It means a lot to them and they understand how
the season works, and we'll let the players. We do
wise words and the players talk to the team. We
have different captains every week. They talk to the guys.
They say brilliant things, they say things that are spot on,
you know, and we have that kind of a kind
of leadership, that kind of a culture where where it's
kind of grown from within, nurtured from within. Uh, those
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are the guys that set the tone. Uh, that's what
you want.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
For these obviously, because that you're what two things? What
what went in the decision to get Patrick to start there?
And why do you think that works so well with
with him? I'm sorry with him and left guard and
Rogers starting a right guard, both the first start right.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, that move made a lot of sense. I think
we all definitely agreed on it. Not not that the
other guys couldn't have played in there.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
They could have.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And I'll say this about like Ben for instance, he's
been practicing very well, so when Ben gets his chance,
he's gonna play very well. But Pat Patrick's such an
experienced guy and he's played all the positions. Although left
guard I think I read was ten snaps in the past,
so that was a good stat you guys pulled up.
He's practiced a lot at all the positions over the years, and.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
He's just a guy.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Just that's his kind of superpower, you know, that's his
that's his trait that he can do so many different
things so well. And you know, as we go forward,
you know, we'll see how how Andrew's ankle is and
all that, and but Pat can continue to do it
and he's only going to get better if he gets
more reps there. And obviously Roger the guy has been
coming on. He's a high draft pick, he's a guy
we have a lot of expectations for and he didn't
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do anything in that game to dampen that down at all.
So I think he's kind of taken as it comes
every single week and try to put the best group
out there you can with the best next guys playing,
and whoever have everybody ready. Soon need arises that you
can put a player and that that's ready to help
you win.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
That whole back to back timeout scenario that heart in
the second half, Now that you're calling back and looked
at it, any thoughts on how that went down maybe
back or was that just something that was a game
operation thing that was.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That was not good. I mean, that was one I
want back, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It just there's a lot of reason stuff happens in
a game, and there's a lot of things that happened,
but now I want that one back that was bad.
Felt bad about it at the time, Still feel bad
about it, Gonna feel bad about it next year, and
ten years from now, I'm gonna hate it still. So
it's just a bad, bad sequence for us, for me, especially.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
John Wiggans had some tough moments in the game the
week the week before, but you had him out there
almost every Wiggins had some tough moments a week before,
but you had him out there for almost every defensive snap.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Right away yesterday.
Speaker 9 (05:58):
And what game the fifth that he would handle that
as well as he did.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, I me that's growth, you know, just a growth guy,
growth mindset, and we trust our guys to learn and
grow and gave him an opportunity to go out there
and do it again. And he's been practicing really well.
And you know, I mean, he and I had numerous conversations.
He and Chris had numerous conversations, just natural part of football,
you know, and he listens and practiced well last week
and went out and played well.
Speaker 10 (06:23):
If you look at a lot of the big Henry
runs or any of your big offensive players over the
last couple of weeks usually find a tight end to
full back or a wide receiver blocking in the perimeter
or making a play down field.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
What about how selfless.
Speaker 10 (06:39):
Kind of some of those guys have been that. You know,
Mark Andrews hasn't had a catch in two weeks, and
Flowers didn't have his normal you know numbers yesterday. But
just how kind of people are buying into that?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I mean, that's football is a team sport, you know,
it's the ultimate team sport. And when you've got a
bunch of players who are team players, team guys, I
think you have a chance to be a good team.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And that's what we have. So as we've said before,
you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know, if Derek or the running game doesn't quite
get going from a stat wise, the questions are always
gonna be what about the running game? The running game
gets going, and the questions are always going to be
what about this player? That player is not getting targeted,
or you're not throwing the ball that much, or the
passing yards aren't up or whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I mean, it's just it's just it's part and parcel.
We understand that.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And the answer is always that, you know, the hole
is greater than the parts, and the parts make the hole.
And those guys get it. I mean, they're contributing in
a big way. Mark Andrews is gonna definitely have big
games here catching the ball. Isaiah is gonna have big
games catching the ball. All those guys are, We're gonna have,
We're gonna have. We're gonna have a big passing game
coming up here at some point in time soon. It's
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hard to predict what it's gonna be because if the
games go where they go, and the ball goes where
it goes.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And it's just a competitive deal.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But you know, my point is is that the reason
we ran the ball so well is because everybody was
bought into the play that was being run in that
moment and executed it so well. Mark had some phenomenal
blocks out there, I mean some dominant blocks.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So did Isaiah, So did Bait. You know, so did Zay.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You know, Zay's in their crack blocking, you know, and
he's you know, him and him and in Thailand are
crack blocking defensive ends in there. That's that's what makes you,
you know, gives you a chance to be successful. And
when those guys are running outs and catching the ball,
people will be blocking for them as well.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
John, And I know you kind of explained that they're
but with specifically Mark, because there's a level production that
everyone kind of expecting them go back to back games
without a catch. Is that something that you will talk
to the player to make sure everything's okay or you know,
how do you.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Kind of handle that?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You know, I could probably try to talk to Mark
to make sure everything's okay, but he would just look
at me like, what are you talking to me about?
You know, everything's fine, everything's good. You know, guys are competitive.
I mean, everybody, everybody wants to be the difference because
they know they're they're great players. Mark Andrews is a
great player. All those guys are special in their own way,
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but Mark is a star.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And the fact that the fact that we were doing
well on offense as a team and that part hasn't
been expressing itself in the last two weeks gets me
kind of excited because that's another weapon that we have
that's going to happen. So it's just part of the
versatility of the offense, which is really important.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
Remember last year when you signed Kyle.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Fannoy and you can said, you know, you.
Speaker 10 (09:24):
Played against and William with the Patriots a lot of time.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
There are a lot of new things to say about
I'm kind of like the Henry question as a coach
when you watch him, now, why.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Do you think he is excelling so.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Well at the age that he is?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, he'll tell you that he's young. I mean, every
time you talk to him, he'll tell you, guys, don't
He'll tell you I'm young.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I'm young.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And you know, he's certainly playing young, but he's also
playing crafty. He's playing like a very smart He's in
the right place. The thing that I'm impressed with and
this is not just him, this is the whole defense,
and I think the coaches and led by Zach have
done a great job of emphasiz this.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
But he's playing so hard.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I mean, you see him, you know you're chasing Josh
Allen out to the defensive left side and forcing him
to make a decision as quick as possible. All those
guys doing that him turning and running down the screen
passes pretty impressive.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
Last time, nond you ahead just great things to say
about the way that Zach Orr called the game.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
I guess a month in, what have you seen from
his development.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
In that world?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, absolutely, that's a great point. I thought both coordinators
were really on point, have been on point, but he
really showed up in this game and defense, it really
showed up. You know, Zach has been in the coaches,
I mean not all the coaches together have a great collaboration,
but I think they put together a great game plan.
I think Zach really called the game really well. He
kept him off balance. There was a nice mix of
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coverage of different various kinds of pressures. I mean, there's
a lot of pressures, but there are various types of pressures.
You know, there were four man blitzers, there were five
man type of pressures. There were different coverages and different
coverage rotations behind the blitzes, and you kind of kind
of call them at the right time.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And I don't think you don't want to have.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
An offense have a bead necessarily and where you're going next.
And he did a really good job of that. And
I would say the same thing about Todd and the
offensive coaches. They were moving around different places. It helps
to have some success, you know, when you can kind
of get some plays and get some reps and get
some first downs, you know, then you have a chance
to call more stuff. So and I thought they did
a great job of it, both both Todd and Zach.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Go back to what you're saying about Kyle annoying giving
the age. Is that something you'll you think you'll have
to sort of manage as you get deeper into the seasons,
or to snap founts and workloading that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I think we'll keep an eye on up for sure,
you know, and probably as much as anything you look
at practice, you know, I mean, Kyle's not going to
be a guy that's gonna need as many reps of
practice as a.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Younger guy might.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Or will, so definitely manage that and then we'll see
in the game, you know, it's not I mean, I
think any player, you know, there's kind of an ideal
number of reps. You know, you get gassed out there,
so you definitely want to keep your guys as fresh
as possible.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Even in game. But yeah, we'll definitely be.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Looking at that, which conventional thought is running backs are
usually best on their first contract, right, Justice Hills now
playing really good football and when it's third contract? Now,
how have you seen him progress as a player? What
Justice Hills?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Oh? Justin third contract?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But I mean you know it's not I mean he
got a couple of pretty quick ones.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I mean, how old is he He's what year is
he in the league? Six? Six?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I mean it's not like, okay, right, he's not thirty
years old, but that's still young.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Though. If you ask Kyle to be clear, you see
him like grow.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I mean it seems like he's playing his best football. Now,
how is he improved as a player?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
He has improved as a player. I mean you're exactly
right about that. He's he was a good player coming in.
He was a kind of a speed kind of a back,
you know, and you saw him as a third down back.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
But he's just a guy. I mean we said it
before about him. He kissed.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Nothing gets this guy down. I mean there's nothing that
can can break him. He just keeps coming in and
he's got a smile on his face and he works hard.
He really smart person, understands the game, understands.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
The entire offense.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
He could probably line him up at every position and
he could, he'd know what to do for sure, and
every skill position at least he probably knows the blocking
schemes too. I just think he's that kind of a guy.
And then just to see him, like even through special teams,
here's a guy that if we put him out there
on special teams right now, and we probably will at
some point when we need him, he'll play great on
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special teams too. He just does everything he asked him
to do.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
He does well.
Speaker 11 (13:37):
But well, I been just lights out against the man
man coverage coming into this game.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You guys, really we're.
Speaker 11 (13:43):
Able to be pre effective. I guess what does it
say that your guy's ability to hold up man man.
I think you had a higher rate than just sort
of like how often you kind of call it coverage,
and especially development guys at Wiggins, you know, Kyle moved
forward of the season.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I've alway felt I really felt like we were going
to be a really good man cover team going into
the season, and to see it come to fruition here
as we go, and especially in this game because they
had done really well against man and the crossing routes.
They were really hurting people with the cross routs. Josh
is so accurate throwing those things in there. Our guys
were on them, you know. And there was a couple
of contested catches. I mean everything was contested really except
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the scramble play late. We were contesting everything and we
were close, you know. And even some of the plays
they made, some of the back shoulder throws, those are contested,
just really great plays on their part. You got to
give them credit for making those plays to Coleman over
there on the left side. So I thought Brandon was
really good. I thought Nate really made the things that
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he needed to do better from one week to the next.
He did them, he fixed them. Marlon was all over
people out there. Our safeties covered. Well, yeah, it's good
to feel like you can have confidence in playing man
coverage related to that from Alta is eligible to come
back this week, uniticipating I do, I do, he should
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practice this week and then we'll see, you know, where
he's at physically and roster wise.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And all these kinds of things.
Speaker 9 (15:08):
What's the teaching point at any on the scramble play
that Alan completed. I mean, obviously a tremendous athletic player
that he makes on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
But what would you teach coming.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Out of that one?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, you know there are that. We had that very
discussion this morning. And the thing about scrambled plays are
are we have what we call plaster rules that we
teach and I think we're great at him. To be
honest with you, if you look at us over the
last ten twelve years, it's been something that we've we've
really kind of gotten good at because we've had to.
You know, you look back to Ben Roethlisberger. Okay, that's
where they That's where it started for us. I mean,
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if you didn't if you didn't try to keep you
couldn't keep Ben in the pocket. You tried to and
then you better plaster those guys because that's how they
won games. And we developed our plaster rules then. So
I think we have a good handle on it. But
they're not hard fast because no two scrambles are the same.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I think the Bills were twenty percent of their plays
were scrambled plays. So that's their most called play, the
most run play. It's not the most call play, it's
the most run play. Right, twenty percent. That's one out
of five plays or plays that that comes up in
so you have to be on point, and every one
of them is different because you can't predict what receiver
is going to do. They have their rules. We know
what their rules are because we study them on tape
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and break them down, and one of their rules is
to go deep, you know, so you have to the
situation is it is the person going deep plastered or
is he a guy that's going to be taken up
by the deepest the deepest player. So the rules are
if you're a deep player, you know, you stay as
deep as the deepest receiver. If you're a zone player,
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you have somebody in your zone, you turn it in
demand and you plaster them and then you stick tight
and have your eyes on your luggage. So that kind
of fell between the cracks there, I think in terms
of just the way the play played out. So we'll
look at it on tape, we'll talk to the guys,
and I'm confident that we'll be we'll do a good
job going forward.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Hard to say for all the all the scrambled plays
you're going to have over the course of the next season.
You're going to be perfect on all of them. I
also think you've got to give them credit. I mean,
Josh Allen is going full speed to his right, you know,
somehow off his back foot, puts a foot in the ground,
throws the ball fifty yards across his body downfield. It's
just a really amazing play by a great player too.
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So you know, we want to be on that player.
We want to be defending that play for sure. We'll
coach it. We'll coach it, and our guys will our guy,
all our guys are thinking about right now after the game.
I promise you that's the one play they're thinking about.
But I got to give Josh Allen a lot of
credit on that play too.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
I would say about Ronnie Stanley from being the anchor at.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Enough tackle, kind.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
Of helping to lead a younger group with you off
that's line, and just his play both in the passing
game and his effectiveness when.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You're running off that other side.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, Ronnie Stanley deserves so much credit. I mean, he's
really having a good year and he's got a lot
of football left in him, and I expect him to
keep improving. I think he's going to keep on the rise.
He's really his level of play has just been going
like this, you know. Uh, and it's fun to see
both running pass He was a lot of times he
was singled up out there in pass protection and and
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just did a really good job.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And like you said, in the.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Run game, reach blocks, down blocks, had some good cut
off blocks, screen blocks, had a couple of really good
screen blocks that sprung some screens.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
So yeah, it was good.
Speaker 11 (18:18):
Obviously, momentum after a win like Sunday Nights is you know,
pretty high. Going into an ANC York game with you
guys know each other as well.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
As you do.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
What is the kind of message coming to the start division.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
To player, Well, yeah, it's pretty pretty much that message.
I mean, the message is this is a division game,
this is a rivalry game. These are two teams that
know each other really well. When you when you go
prepare for these kind of a game and you start,
you start pretty far down the road, you know, and
there's a lot of shared experiences and we've you know,
we've gone there. It's a it's a tough environment to
play in. It's a very different environment. And this they're
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just a very competitive team, you know, and they've got
a lot of great players, and any think can happen.
I mean, I think back to Steve Smith catching that
pass when we're trying to come back and going for
a touchdown nothing getting called back by an offensive passer affearance,
which I wanted.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
The official who called is one of the best in
the league. I mean, I think that he knows who
he is, but I still have never forgotten the call.
You know. It's like it's these these crazy, crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Things that happen in these division games, you know, or
are pretty pretty incredible, and I think we're just going
to have to be at our best.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's what we'll talk to our guys about. Shoe.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
We saw Peers practice in full Friday and then you
guys announced he was down break doubtful. Is is that
something else that popped up going forward that's come along?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
ERM concerned.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I think it's part. It's just kind of the way
it works, you know. It's just you never can predict.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Me.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's why I just hate to predict what a guy's
going to do or not going to do, because you
just never know. It wasn't something we necessarily anticipated, but
that's what happened.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Is it kind of pointless?
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Just to look at the record and say and see
two and two and think that that easily could or
should be poor enough.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, it's morethless. But yeah, I.
Speaker 11 (20:06):
Think last year, you guys screen game was kind of
hit or miss. I know, it was obviously more of
a had a more of a role in the screen game.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
The screen.
Speaker 11 (20:16):
Yeah, this year so far, it seem like really affected.
I know there's a lot of factors that go into that.
But is rating that you can specify that's that's.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Helped that come along? Well?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think we're just we're executing it better.
We have a better understanding of it. Timing has been better,
just across the board. We're just executing the play at
a much higher.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Level than we have ever had before. Excited about it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
There's different types of screens in there, so some nuances
here and there that guys are doing a really good job.
But I'm proud of the guys. I think the coaches
have done a really good job of coaching it. And
it's nice to see because it's a valuable thing.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It's really helped us.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
All right, right, all right, thanks, thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
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Welcome to the Ravens Press Pass podcast. It is Monday,
September thirtieth. The Ravens approved it two and two on
Sunday after taking down the Buffalo Bills thirty five to ten.
It was a complete victory for the Ravens. The offense
really relied on running back Derek Candergan on the ground game.
Henry had one hundred and ninety nine rushing yards at
a pair of touchdowns, and the Ravens Finch with two
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hundred and seventy one total rushing yards in the game.
The Ravens showed everyone that they are one of the
very best teams in football by taking down Buffalo, who
was undefeated coming into this game. Today, we had a
chance to hear from head coach John Harbball. Here's what
he had to say during his weekly press conference with
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the media.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
All Right, good to see everybody, appreciate you being here.
Let's go, Ohs, Let's go. Can't wait for that game
tomorrow afternoon at Camden Yards. Got to be honest with
probably won't be watching it, but be monitoring it very closely,
so sport those guys. We're excited for him and can't
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wait to see him go get after it in the playoffs.
Excited about our win last night. As you look at it,
we did many good things and things that we improved on.
We're building. I think we're grown as a football team.
We're kind of in that building phase, still trying to
stack practices and good plays every day and improvement. But
yet we have so many things that we can get
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better at that we need to get better at. So
many things that you'd like to have back from the
game and do better that we'll try our best to
learn from and we will learn from them, just like
we have in the past, you know, games before this.
So that's what we'll work on right now, trying to
put all this stuff together so we can get our
guys in here and have a great week of practice
to get ready for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
What question do you.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Have, John, You know, Derrick Henry you get had another
massive game. There was a lot of questions with him
being three years old and you know the track record
for running backs. Why do you think he is still
being so productive at this age when a lot of
running backs just are.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I mean, I'm sure it's different for every single person,
but I mean There's a lot of things about Derek
that make him unique. Talent is one of them, for sure,
and work ethic is another one for sure. He's a very,
very you know, just tough human being, for sure. But
he really the proof is in the results, and you
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kind of go by what you see. So we're evaluating
the possibility of bringing him in here. I think we
just looked at how he's been playing, you know, and
to see that continue on obviously is great. But we
did expect him to play this way and we're excited
about it.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
It's not a season with two losses, two wins, you're
talking about Stint even Keeld.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You know, it's a marathon a season. How do you
get your players players may be little more.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Emotional like coaches, how do you get them to buy
into that sort of philosophy.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
And that stay.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, you know, the players are pros too, you know,
and I think at this level, I think the there's
a real collaboration between coaches and players, especially nowadays.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Uh and in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, these these are these are grown men, you know,
these are guys that are professionals.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
They they take their careers very seriously.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It means a lot to them and they understand how
the season works, and we'll let the players. We do
wise words and the players talk to the team. We
have different captains every week. They talk to the guys.
They say brilliant things, they say things that are spot on,
you know, and we have that kind of a kind
of leadership, that kind of a culture where where it's
kind of grown from within, nurtured from within. Uh, those
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are the guys that set the tone. Uh, that's what
you want.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
For these obviously, because that you're what two things? What
what went in the decision to get Patrick to start there?
And why do you think that works so well with
with him? I'm sorry with him and left guard and
Rogers starting a right guard, both the first start right.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, that move made a lot of sense. I think
we all definitely agreed on it. Not not that the
other guys couldn't have played in there.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
They could have.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And I'll say this about like Ben for instance, he's
been practicing very well, so when Ben gets his chance,
he's gonna play very well. But Pat Patrick's such an
experienced guy and he's played all the positions. Although left
guard I think I read was ten snaps in the past,
so that was a good stat you guys pulled up.
He's practiced a lot at all the positions over the years, and.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
He's just a guy.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Just that's his kind of superpower, you know, that's his
that's his trait that he can do so many different
things so well. And you know, as we go forward,
you know, we'll see how how Andrew's ankle is and
all that, and but Pat can continue to do it
and he's only going to get better if he gets
more reps there. And obviously Roger the guy has been
coming on. He's a high draft pick, he's a guy
we have a lot of expectations for and he didn't
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do anything in that game to dampen that down at all.
So I think he's kind of taken as it comes
every single week and try to put the best group
out there you can with the best next guys playing,
and whoever have everybody ready. Soon need arises that you
can put a player and that that's ready to help
you win.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
That whole back to back timeout scenario that heart in
the second half, Now that you're calling back and looked
at it, any thoughts on how that went down maybe
back or was that just something that was a game
operation thing that was.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That was not good. I mean, that was one I
want back, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It just there's a lot of reason stuff happens in
a game, and there's a lot of things that happened,
but now I want that one back that was bad.
Felt bad about it at the time, Still feel bad
about it, Gonna feel bad about it next year, and
ten years from now, I'm gonna hate it still. So
it's just a bad, bad sequence for us, for me, especially.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
John Wiggans had some tough moments in the game the
week the week before, but you had him out there
almost every Wiggins had some tough moments a week before,
but you had him out there for almost every defensive snap.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Right away yesterday.
Speaker 9 (05:58):
And what game the fifth that he would handle that
as well as he did.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, I me that's growth, you know, just a growth guy,
growth mindset, and we trust our guys to learn and
grow and gave him an opportunity to go out there
and do it again. And he's been practicing really well.
And you know, I mean, he and I had numerous conversations.
He and Chris had numerous conversations, just natural part of football,
you know, and he listens and practiced well last week
and went out and played well.
Speaker 10 (06:23):
If you look at a lot of the big Henry
runs or any of your big offensive players over the
last couple of weeks usually find a tight end to
full back or a wide receiver blocking in the perimeter
or making a play down field.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
What about how selfless.
Speaker 10 (06:39):
Kind of some of those guys have been that. You know,
Mark Andrews hasn't had a catch in two weeks, and
Flowers didn't have his normal you know numbers yesterday. But
just how kind of people are buying into that?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I mean, that's football is a team sport, you know,
it's the ultimate team sport. And when you've got a
bunch of players who are team players, team guys, I
think you have a chance to be a good team.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And that's what we have. So as we've said before,
you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know, if Derek or the running game doesn't quite
get going from a stat wise, the questions are always
gonna be what about the running game? The running game
gets going, and the questions are always going to be
what about this player? That player is not getting targeted,
or you're not throwing the ball that much, or the
passing yards aren't up or whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I mean, it's just it's just it's part and parcel.
We understand that.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And the answer is always that, you know, the hole
is greater than the parts, and the parts make the hole.
And those guys get it. I mean, they're contributing in
a big way. Mark Andrews is gonna definitely have big
games here catching the ball. Isaiah is gonna have big
games catching the ball. All those guys are, We're gonna have,
We're gonna have. We're gonna have a big passing game
coming up here at some point in time soon. It's
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hard to predict what it's gonna be because if the
games go where they go, and the ball goes where
it goes.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And it's just a competitive deal.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But you know, my point is is that the reason
we ran the ball so well is because everybody was
bought into the play that was being run in that
moment and executed it so well. Mark had some phenomenal
blocks out there, I mean some dominant blocks.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So did Isaiah, So did Bait. You know, so did Zay.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You know, Zay's in their crack blocking, you know, and
he's you know, him and him and in Thailand are
crack blocking defensive ends in there. That's that's what makes you,
you know, gives you a chance to be successful. And
when those guys are running outs and catching the ball,
people will be blocking for them as well.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
John, And I know you kind of explained that they're
but with specifically Mark, because there's a level production that
everyone kind of expecting them go back to back games
without a catch. Is that something that you will talk
to the player to make sure everything's okay or you know,
how do you.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Kind of handle that?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You know, I could probably try to talk to Mark
to make sure everything's okay, but he would just look
at me like, what are you talking to me about?
You know, everything's fine, everything's good. You know, guys are competitive.
I mean, everybody, everybody wants to be the difference because
they know they're they're great players. Mark Andrews is a
great player. All those guys are special in their own way,
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but Mark is a star.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And the fact that the fact that we were doing
well on offense as a team and that part hasn't
been expressing itself in the last two weeks gets me
kind of excited because that's another weapon that we have
that's going to happen. So it's just part of the
versatility of the offense, which is really important.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
Remember last year when you signed Kyle.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Fannoy and you can said, you know, you.
Speaker 10 (09:24):
Played against and William with the Patriots a lot of time.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
There are a lot of new things to say about
I'm kind of like the Henry question as a coach
when you watch him, now, why.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Do you think he is excelling so.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Well at the age that he is?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, he'll tell you that he's young. I mean, every
time you talk to him, he'll tell you, guys, don't
He'll tell you I'm young.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I'm young.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And you know, he's certainly playing young, but he's also
playing crafty. He's playing like a very smart He's in
the right place. The thing that I'm impressed with and
this is not just him, this is the whole defense,
and I think the coaches and led by Zach have
done a great job of emphasiz this.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
But he's playing so hard.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I mean, you see him, you know you're chasing Josh
Allen out to the defensive left side and forcing him
to make a decision as quick as possible. All those
guys doing that him turning and running down the screen
passes pretty impressive.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
Last time, nond you ahead just great things to say
about the way that Zach Orr called the game.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
I guess a month in, what have you seen from
his development.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
In that world?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, absolutely, that's a great point. I thought both coordinators
were really on point, have been on point, but he
really showed up in this game and defense, it really
showed up. You know, Zach has been in the coaches,
I mean not all the coaches together have a great collaboration,
but I think they put together a great game plan.
I think Zach really called the game really well. He
kept him off balance. There was a nice mix of
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coverage of different various kinds of pressures. I mean, there's
a lot of pressures, but there are various types of pressures.
You know, there were four man blitzers, there were five
man type of pressures. There were different coverages and different
coverage rotations behind the blitzes, and you kind of kind
of call them at the right time.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And I don't think you don't want to have.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
An offense have a bead necessarily and where you're going next.
And he did a really good job of that. And
I would say the same thing about Todd and the
offensive coaches. They were moving around different places. It helps
to have some success, you know, when you can kind
of get some plays and get some reps and get
some first downs, you know, then you have a chance
to call more stuff. So and I thought they did
a great job of it, both both Todd and Zach.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Go back to what you're saying about Kyle annoying giving
the age. Is that something you'll you think you'll have
to sort of manage as you get deeper into the seasons,
or to snap founts and workloading that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I think we'll keep an eye on up for sure,
you know, and probably as much as anything you look
at practice, you know, I mean, Kyle's not going to
be a guy that's gonna need as many reps of
practice as a.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Younger guy might.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Or will, so definitely manage that and then we'll see
in the game, you know, it's not I mean, I
think any player, you know, there's kind of an ideal
number of reps. You know, you get gassed out there,
so you definitely want to keep your guys as fresh
as possible.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Even in game. But yeah, we'll definitely be.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Looking at that, which conventional thought is running backs are
usually best on their first contract, right, Justice Hills now
playing really good football and when it's third contract? Now,
how have you seen him progress as a player? What
Justice Hills?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Oh? Justin third contract?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But I mean you know it's not I mean he
got a couple of pretty quick ones.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I mean, how old is he He's what year is
he in the league? Six? Six?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I mean it's not like, okay, right, he's not thirty
years old, but that's still young.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Though. If you ask Kyle to be clear, you see
him like grow.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I mean it seems like he's playing his best football. Now,
how is he improved as a player?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
He has improved as a player. I mean you're exactly
right about that. He's he was a good player coming in.
He was a kind of a speed kind of a back,
you know, and you saw him as a third down back.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
But he's just a guy. I mean we said it
before about him. He kissed.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Nothing gets this guy down. I mean there's nothing that
can can break him. He just keeps coming in and
he's got a smile on his face and he works hard.
He really smart person, understands the game, understands.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
The entire offense.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
He could probably line him up at every position and
he could, he'd know what to do for sure, and
every skill position at least he probably knows the blocking
schemes too. I just think he's that kind of a guy.
And then just to see him, like even through special teams,
here's a guy that if we put him out there
on special teams right now, and we probably will at
some point when we need him, he'll play great on
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special teams too. He just does everything he asked him
to do.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
He does well.
Speaker 11 (13:37):
But well, I been just lights out against the man
man coverage coming into this game.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You guys, really we're.
Speaker 11 (13:43):
Able to be pre effective. I guess what does it
say that your guy's ability to hold up man man.
I think you had a higher rate than just sort
of like how often you kind of call it coverage,
and especially development guys at Wiggins, you know, Kyle moved
forward of the season.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I've alway felt I really felt like we were going
to be a really good man cover team going into
the season, and to see it come to fruition here
as we go, and especially in this game because they
had done really well against man and the crossing routes.
They were really hurting people with the cross routs. Josh
is so accurate throwing those things in there. Our guys
were on them, you know. And there was a couple
of contested catches. I mean everything was contested really except
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the scramble play late. We were contesting everything and we
were close, you know. And even some of the plays
they made, some of the back shoulder throws, those are contested,
just really great plays on their part. You got to
give them credit for making those plays to Coleman over
there on the left side. So I thought Brandon was
really good. I thought Nate really made the things that
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he needed to do better from one week to the next.
He did them, he fixed them. Marlon was all over
people out there. Our safeties covered. Well, yeah, it's good
to feel like you can have confidence in playing man
coverage related to that from Alta is eligible to come
back this week, uniticipating I do, I do, he should
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practice this week and then we'll see, you know, where
he's at physically and roster wise.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And all these kinds of things.
Speaker 9 (15:08):
What's the teaching point at any on the scramble play
that Alan completed. I mean, obviously a tremendous athletic player
that he makes on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
But what would you teach coming.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Out of that one?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, you know there are that. We had that very
discussion this morning. And the thing about scrambled plays are
are we have what we call plaster rules that we
teach and I think we're great at him. To be
honest with you, if you look at us over the
last ten twelve years, it's been something that we've we've
really kind of gotten good at because we've had to.
You know, you look back to Ben Roethlisberger. Okay, that's
where they That's where it started for us. I mean,
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if you didn't if you didn't try to keep you
couldn't keep Ben in the pocket. You tried to and
then you better plaster those guys because that's how they
won games. And we developed our plaster rules then. So
I think we have a good handle on it. But
they're not hard fast because no two scrambles are the same.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I think the Bills were twenty percent of their plays
were scrambled plays. So that's their most called play, the
most run play. It's not the most call play, it's
the most run play. Right, twenty percent. That's one out
of five plays or plays that that comes up in
so you have to be on point, and every one
of them is different because you can't predict what receiver
is going to do. They have their rules. We know
what their rules are because we study them on tape
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and break them down, and one of their rules is
to go deep, you know, so you have to the
situation is it is the person going deep plastered or
is he a guy that's going to be taken up
by the deepest the deepest player. So the rules are
if you're a deep player, you know, you stay as
deep as the deepest receiver. If you're a zone player,
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you have somebody in your zone, you turn it in
demand and you plaster them and then you stick tight
and have your eyes on your luggage. So that kind
of fell between the cracks there, I think in terms
of just the way the play played out. So we'll
look at it on tape, we'll talk to the guys,
and I'm confident that we'll be we'll do a good
job going forward.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Hard to say for all the all the scrambled plays
you're going to have over the course of the next season.
You're going to be perfect on all of them. I
also think you've got to give them credit. I mean,
Josh Allen is going full speed to his right, you know,
somehow off his back foot, puts a foot in the ground,
throws the ball fifty yards across his body downfield. It's
just a really amazing play by a great player too.
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So you know, we want to be on that player.
We want to be defending that play for sure. We'll
coach it. We'll coach it, and our guys will our guy,
all our guys are thinking about right now after the game.
I promise you that's the one play they're thinking about.
But I got to give Josh Allen a lot of
credit on that play too.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
I would say about Ronnie Stanley from being the anchor at.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Enough tackle, kind.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
Of helping to lead a younger group with you off
that's line, and just his play both in the passing
game and his effectiveness when.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You're running off that other side.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, Ronnie Stanley deserves so much credit. I mean, he's
really having a good year and he's got a lot
of football left in him, and I expect him to
keep improving. I think he's going to keep on the rise.
He's really his level of play has just been going
like this, you know. Uh, and it's fun to see
both running pass He was a lot of times he
was singled up out there in pass protection and and
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just did a really good job.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And like you said, in the.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Run game, reach blocks, down blocks, had some good cut
off blocks, screen blocks, had a couple of really good
screen blocks that sprung some screens.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
So yeah, it was good.
Speaker 11 (18:18):
Obviously, momentum after a win like Sunday Nights is you know,
pretty high. Going into an ANC York game with you
guys know each other as well.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
As you do.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
What is the kind of message coming to the start division.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
To player, Well, yeah, it's pretty pretty much that message.
I mean, the message is this is a division game,
this is a rivalry game. These are two teams that
know each other really well. When you when you go
prepare for these kind of a game and you start,
you start pretty far down the road, you know, and
there's a lot of shared experiences and we've you know,
we've gone there. It's a it's a tough environment to
play in. It's a very different environment. And this they're
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just a very competitive team, you know, and they've got
a lot of great players, and any think can happen.
I mean, I think back to Steve Smith catching that
pass when we're trying to come back and going for
a touchdown nothing getting called back by an offensive passer affearance,
which I wanted.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
The official who called is one of the best in
the league. I mean, I think that he knows who
he is, but I still have never forgotten the call.
You know. It's like it's these these crazy, crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Things that happen in these division games, you know, or
are pretty pretty incredible, and I think we're just going
to have to be at our best.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's what we'll talk to our guys about. Shoe.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
We saw Peers practice in full Friday and then you
guys announced he was down break doubtful. Is is that
something else that popped up going forward that's come along?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
ERM concerned.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I think it's part. It's just kind of the way
it works, you know. It's just you never can predict.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Me.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's why I just hate to predict what a guy's
going to do or not going to do, because you
just never know. It wasn't something we necessarily anticipated, but
that's what happened.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Is it kind of pointless?
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Just to look at the record and say and see
two and two and think that that easily could or
should be poor enough.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, it's morethless. But yeah, I.
Speaker 11 (20:06):
Think last year, you guys screen game was kind of
hit or miss. I know, it was obviously more of
a had a more of a role in the screen game.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
The screen.
Speaker 11 (20:16):
Yeah, this year so far, it seem like really affected.
I know there's a lot of factors that go into that.
But is rating that you can specify that's that's.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Helped that come along? Well?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think we're just we're executing it better.
We have a better understanding of it. Timing has been better,
just across the board. We're just executing the play at
a much higher.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Level than we have ever had before. Excited about it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
There's different types of screens in there, so some nuances
here and there that guys are doing a really good job.
But I'm proud of the guys. I think the coaches
have done a really good job of coaching it. And
it's nice to see because it's a valuable thing.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It's really helped us.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
All right, right, all right, thanks, thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
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