May 14, 2026 • 36 mins
The heart of the episode centers on the dangers of unqualified people presenting themselves as experts—especially in spaces involving mental health. Jerrilyn and Lynee’ break down why inspiration and education are not the same thing, why receipts matter, and why calling someone out isn’t “tearing down another Black woman” when the facts simply aren’t there. That energy carries straight into their breakdown of the Kevin Hart roast, where they question how racist jokes keep sliding under the guise of comedy and why certain lines—George Floyd, lynching, and history—should never be crossed for a laugh. Their stance is clear: a joke not landing is one thing, but allowing disrespect in the room is something else entirely.
By the time they get to the episode’s namesake, the message is loud and unmistakable: everybody cannot come to the cookout. The hosts unpack cultural appropriation, misplaced “passes,” and why being adjacent to Black culture doesn’t equal belonging. They also pivot into a timely reminder about letting go of perfection, starting before you’re ready, and surrounding yourself with people who actually push you forward. Equal parts cultural critique and motivational check‑in, Episode 99 delivers humor, honesty, and a reminder that boundaries—personal, cultural, and creative—are not optional.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's it everybody in y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Girl Describable aka Jerlyn Lay checking in with none other
than my bestie for the rest of.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Y'all, listen to this, she said.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The first podcast an Urban one Podcast and the Urban
one Podcast Network. Here, welcome, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. Hey,
we have made it through another week. Now. We did that, honey, Oh,
(00:37):
I do feel legally blind. It's just been so much
going on. So friend, like we started every other episode,
you gotta talk to me about what irritated you this week. Frank,
I think it's gonna irritate me for a while. I'm
gonna start walking, walking walking. I don't walk the gas
(00:59):
for in the gas, I can't. I can't do the gas. Friend,
That's reressful. It's very structful. Every time I pull up
and I'm like, I'm looking at it because I'm like, dang,
I only got like five gallons, but we up to
like twenty five thirty dollars, like the meter off of something.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So I'm not right with that. I don't know. We
got to get that man about it. That's what I know.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You drive in a space ship because I'm not just
extra termstoryam.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No. I thank God that I work from home and
I don't have to move around too much because I
put by thirty five or forty dollars in there and
the hour weeks.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, you know I got I buy my cars based
on the gas. Oh okay, okay, you know people be like,
well you need to get something new, girl, ultimate that
should tell you everything you need. This out right now,
tell you everything you need. Girl, doing me good.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I've been using that car since I think twenty eighteen
I bought that car or twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And so maybe this car has been holding me through
and I'm not gonna this car is going to have.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
To explode with me in it for me to get
you say, I'm not giving my car. I'm gonna blame
you God twenty oh You're so lucky.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Friends driving me crazy. I was looking at bikes the
other day. I ain't rode a bike in so long.
I was looking to see you maybe I could give,
you know, get some mousing on a bike or something.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't know. I can't even gas like that.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Getting a bike will have positive health consequences. We would
all be more we would be more fit. I could
get a bike now now am I going to use
it realistically?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No? Why haven't I.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Seen you on the rollerblades again? Okay, do I come
to your house and a taxi? I want to know
why haven't I seen you on the rollerblades?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
You got a second way of transportation.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Road. We just got to hurt this on my third
day out, like you just came from me real hard Yaya.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Never seen them rollerblades again.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The way my calves, everything from the kneecap and surrounding
areas was on fire. I said, I don't know what.
Who did I think I was buying a pair of
roller skates. And that's what pissed me off this week,
me because thinking I'm cousin on somebody. My life is
(03:31):
not Nickelodeon's stick Baby. I need to take it on up.
So I said, one video and.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You won't see anohing now.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You know it's funny because I saw videos every day
of people rollerblade on the belt line and I thought
that was cute. She was like, we're going to attempt
to roll to take to roller blade the entire belt
line today and I was just thinking to myself, girls,
like twenty miles from like that, ten to twenty something
like that, and I just kept thinking to myself, I
don't know if this is on the n will, but
they ended up doing a little bit short but that
(04:03):
ended up they did you know, do it? And I
was like, that looked like so much fun. But I
just know y'all got thirty minutes out of me. It's
the amount of time it took me to film that video.
That video may have been ten minutes long on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh my god, I was done. So yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I think that was that was my limit there that
one little time it was or whatever, but.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Never again. But free we have. This week has been
a ship show. We got to get into a lot
of stuff. Girl, what happened? You know?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I really want to talk about doctor Cheyenne Bryant because
the way that she's been tousling for her life in
the comments for these last couple of weeks about this
honorary doctorate degree.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And she just went on a breakfast.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Club today and tried to dispel the rooms. I said,
they're not dispell them just after school was non existent
trying then you don't got it?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
That so is the degree?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I don't work, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I don't know if you understand how a defense work.
But it's obvious that you're not an attorney either, because
girls go to hell. Okay, go straight to hell. Come
on now, baby, It's like, and then I had called
financial aid, and if I had, you still don't got it.
Where are receipts, babe. We're looking for receipts. Were looking
for diplomas, We're looking for degrees.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You don't got it. We're looking for doctorates. You don't it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
The way when people sit up and playing our face
every day, I think it's very important right now to
shift the conversation from we're not just talking about doctor
Sean and Bryant. Doctor is so funny to me, like,
you're not just right, We're not just talking about her.
What I'm talking about is the fact that life coaches
and people that are your whole job is to encourage people,
the motivational speakers and stuff. That's cute, But when it
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comes to mental health illnesses and people that need possibly
medication to help regulate their emotions and mental state, we
need to have a serious conversation about how we let
uncertified people play in our face.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, but online, they're gonna get everybody online.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Because everybody is giving it unsolicited advice all the time
about I mean, people could say that about us, but
we ain't got no doubt in front of our name.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
We adopted in front of not let me tell you,
let me tell you why. It's not the same. What
we're doing is key king amongst each other.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
We are not telling people this is how you should
live your life. This is if you have this problem,
this is how you should fix it.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
That is not what we're doing. This sighting has gone
on podcasts.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Off the podcast and let people call her doctor doctor
Ryan talking about as in the middle of a therapy position.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
How was you in a therapy position and you're.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Not a licensed that's crazy, Bobby, don't say nothing about
doctor Umar.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Who don't say nothing about doctor.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I literally was thinking out, I.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Mean, I guess I don't know talking baby.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We have been dragging doctor Umar for you when you promise,
thank you? No no real Where is that school he said.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
He was building for us? Where is it?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
We haven't seen nothing? Went stood outside when like this
and we.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Ain't seen nothing. How you do? How you do? He
went like this and we ain't saying nothing. The nigga
paying the parameter said that should do it. Y sound.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It's me all frustrated because I feel like as a community,
we just people that have the biggest following.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We just go whatever they say. And I don't think
that that's right. I understand we do have things called
thought leaders.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
We have people in the community that we we enjoy
getting their opinion about things like like our case in point,
we're somebody's favorite content creators.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Don't know who it is, don't care, but we're somebody's face. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That do not mean we need to run for a
congressional seat, right. You know, we got to learn how
to start separating the difference. And I think that when
somebody is listen, Doctor Raquel Martin went on a tangent
about this one day, and they tried to eat her
up because she is a licensed clinical therapist and right
to be talking for one, but they ain't her. If
(08:22):
anybody could, it would be doctor Raquel Martin. But baby,
they was trying to eat her up in a comments
somebody she being mean and she's just trying to take
down another black woman.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And here's the thing, doctor, cheyenne.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Doctor, here's the thing you say, because we're.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Playing time too.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But the thing about her is she markets herself a
certain type of way.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I'm not saying that she is a grifter, but I'm
saying that we have to be very careful in our
community about hearing it's inspirational messages and things that people
are amending in the comments, because that's how the church
got us. Yeah, all I'm saying is that's how the
church got us. Singing him slaying left and right and
kumbaya in this moment and ain't doing a damn thing
(09:07):
for us. So I think you know much respect to
her being. I mean, she has a I don't know
what her credentials are. I just know it ain't doctor. Okay,
good where you're gonna go with this face?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
But people want out or something.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, and we are not tearing down another black woman.
You can give us solicited advice. It becomes a problem
when you say you're a doctor and you're just not.
It's just like if you want to go in for
surgery and he said, and you found out the person
who did surgery on you wasn't a doctor, would you
be like you trying to tear down another black surgeon. Well,
he's not a surgeon. So how do you feel about
(09:43):
the Bosch body?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Now doesn't make sense? You know what I mean? So
you got it? You just like you can give your
unsolicited advice. Five.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's different when you're claiming to have something that you
don't have so that you can get more recognition than
you deserve.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That's all we're saying.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, like people believe that you are holding on to
what you said tooth and nail.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And you ain't got no come on here, you gotta
be smarter than this. We got we gotta be smarter
than that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And furthermore, I think we have every right people that
have platforms, you can feel how you want to feel
about what I'm about to say, whether you acknowledge it
or accept it or not, you have a responsibility to
You gotta have some type of integrity with the content
that you put out, Okay, and if you don't, you
are subject to scrutiny because we absolutely have the right
(10:27):
to hold you accountable. Which brings me to my next point.
What the hell happened at that Netflix? Kevin Hart Rose?
So I didn't watch it. I did not watch you,
and let me tell you why. I cringed, I cranged
out a few moments. But one thing, you know, I
have drelian. Though I suffer, I cannot do second hand embarrassment.
I don't know how to sit through that. Pray, I
(10:48):
can't sit through it and make my stin crawl. And
all I saw was somebody said something about George Floyd,
and I said, oh, I will never tune into this
in fun of George.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
That is nothing funny. That's literally nothing I could think
of that would be funny about bringing out George Floyd.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So right then, and I think I just made the
executive decision to like not watch it because I didn't
want second hand embarrassment.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I really don't know to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, I think the larger issue for me was how
are y'all niggas up there letting these white people get
these racist jokes off? You brought maga comedians to your roles?
What were we expect? I feel like the people that
wrote the jokes, because we know the comedians don't write
their own jokes in some of those you know, roles,
I feel like the people that wrote the jokes and
(11:33):
who produced it said let's see how racist we can be.
And there's you know, there's another situation where people are saying, well,
this is Kevin Hart's humiliation ritual. He's getting getting into
the illuminati with this, and I'm like, I don't know
if that's factor fiction. What I know is I don't
have a single white person in my life, friend, relative,
or business associate that feels comfortable saying nigga jokes around me.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Not a single one, which.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Is crazy because how long have you I'll let that fly, right,
because sometimes you can look at them, but I like
to look at the other side, because why do they
feel so comfortable with getting that off their chest? And
nobody said nothing about it, Like, from what I'm hearing,
nobody checked it. Everybody was just sitting there kicking in
and laughing like ha ha ha, Like this is not
(12:17):
I'm not gonna grin a smile. I don't care if
it is a roast. I don't care if I am
supposed to laugh if it's not funny.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I'm literally gonna sit there like, well, I mean, it's
two things to your point, time and place.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I understand. And people are like, well, you don't understand
the purpose of a ross. Honey, I grew up in
the nineties. I'm probably okay, not mine from im. I
was literally born and raised in Memphis and then grew
up part of my life in Mississippi. I'm not a
stranger to getting checked on the playground, roasted in at
the cafeteria like you've been roasting niggas since we was
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old enough to talk down here. This is going to
call it jump out and so for sure, So it's
not like we're confused about the person of this. What
we're saying is typically put. The jokes did not land,
and some people did stand up.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I think Chelsea Handler glazed over it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
She made a comment about them being white supremacists and
MEGA supporters. But Cheryl Underwood got up there and said
exactly what needed to be said, shout out to.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
My girl, Cheryl Underwood. But all these jokes, the girl I.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Was making all these jokes about her being blacktty blackety black,
which pitched me off because.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Shut the hell up.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's like they don't have nothing else to talk about
but how they're racist. And so Cheryl got out there
she basically said, your little jokes is cute.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Or whatever, but just no, you an Inglewood baby.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
If you got any closer to that end word, you
probably wouldn't have made a home tonight. And so to
the guy Tony hinchclub, he was the red faced little guy.
They kept making homophobic jokes, which I don't care if.
I don't care if he gay or not. My problem
is you racist. That's my problem for you to feel
comfortable sitting up there making jokes about George Floyd. And
then Shane gill Us the whole he was saying, I
(14:02):
think he made a joke about Kevin Hart being lynched
from a bunzai tree because he's so short.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I don't ask whether human is in this. I can't
find it. Not when black men are still being lynched
in twenty twenty six in DC at the police station.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Interesting observation, like we're still joking about that.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So I to the point about you know, Cheyenne and
Kevin Hart.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I think people in I feel like it was Sidney
Poitier who said, maybe to Jamie Fox, with great with
great influence or exposure, comes great responsibility or something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And I think, and I could be wrong, Please fact
check me out. I'm not saying I know.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Everything, but the gist of it is, when you have
a platform as large as some of us do, you
have to be held accountable for what you're doing say,
and I think that was just extremely tasteless, and I
think people are brushing it off as while they felt
comfortable doing that is because ah, it's just jokes.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And this is how comedy I think is off limits.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And my thing is, okay, if we are going to
if we're gonna take that approach, then you have to
also be willing to accept that people will be offended.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, you shouldn't watch a roast if you're gonna be offended.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I think it was gonna make a George Floyd Joe
and listen, and we're talking about Lynchen and that a
joke because nothing about that is funny, Like, I don't
see what learning that's right white people. And you know
what's weird is that they can get on a public
platform and say stuff like that about George Floyd, about Lynchon.
But then Drew Ski makes a video never says a name, though,
(15:36):
doesn't drop a name, doesn't anything, and people are he
could have I could name some names now, but I
don't want us to get canceled.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Doesn't matter now anyway, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Doesn't There's a lot of things he could have called her.
He didn't say a name. He literally just mimicked what
she already did. She mimic what she has already done,
and people went crazy. So that's crazy that somebody who
just mimic what you do, don't say anything, gets all
this backglass again, deaths, you know, losing certain opportunities. But
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then you have somebody who will literally go on a
platform and speak it out loud in front of a
room full of black people, and it's like, well, it
was just a joke.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It was it was just comedy. I'm confused, that's the
excuse to be racist.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Girl day A lot of these dudes, and you're another question,
where would the ogs then?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Because the only OG's I saw up there was Cheryl.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Underwood Cat and I'm talking about from our community, Underwood
and Kat Williams.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I saw a lot of people in the audience.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I saw Mojo Brooks, I saw Dion Cale, I saw
the guys from the Last Funny af.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
The Newest special that Kevin Kevin Hart did. Uh, I
can see them.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I saw I saw Chante, which is the youngest niece
I think, and I saw Craig So I you know,
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
V Mack would never No, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Bernie Mack would absolutely but it would not go down
like that. No, I said, he would never let it
happen like Bernie. Like Bernie Mack would never let people compared.
They're like, well, we had worst roast in the in
the nineties, and I'm saying, I ain't never heard nobody
say nothing crazy like Bernie Mack was on stage. Unless
(17:37):
you now, I will, I would be corrected. Please, No,
it's I look at all Bernie Mac specials. I looked
at everything that's comedy, jam Kings of comedy, everything the
Bernie Mac show.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Hell, ain't nobody never played in that, man say ever
it never gave that. So no, you know, anybody.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
When we do it, they say we screaming victim because
black people get on stage and talk about white people
all the time.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And I think people, this is the this is a
different conversation.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I feel like people get racism confused with having to
be racially aware.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Mhm. We literally have to know.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
We have to know everything we're supposed to know about
white people to survive.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
We don't give a damn about y'all.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Realistically, we have to because we don't want to get
murdered in the street.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
We we we cater our our behaviors and our speech to.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
How your body language is in the moment, and we
we constantly have to make ourselves smaller because white people
just don't have no type of remorse for the way
they've taken up faith and lynched us, ate us and
our children are alligant, Like.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We're not We're not cracking jokes because we are racist.
We're cracking jokes because sometimes you have to laugh to
keep from crying.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Y'all cracking jokes because it's is shit you've been wanting
to say.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You say it at your grandma house all the time
because she still refers to black people as color, but you.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Know you can't say it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
ND and the comics that the black comics that allow
it on the regular because I don't know if you remember,
but there was a clip of Jerry Seinfield with Chris
Rock and I think Lewis C. K Okay and somebody else,
and they were making a joke and Chris Rock was like, oh, yeah,
he gets a pass to say nigger, and they just
kept saying nigga, nigga, nigga, iggab back up, and Jerry
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Seinfield had to be the one to be like, nah,
I don't think that's exactly praying it, and I'm not
looking for the humor in it because Chris Rock is
the same person as Kevin Hark is crazy?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
What is that? And stop inviting everybody to the cookdout.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I don't want to say that because y'all see a
white man with a fade and a due rag and
be like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You can come.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You see somebody make some barbecue chicken wings on the braill,
and now all of a sudden he can come to
the cookout. He got a little swag, don't put that on.
And now it's like, you invite us to the cook
Stop inviting everybody can't come to the cookout. I hate
when I see y'all say that, just because y'all so
easily distracted. Somebody dangle something in front of your face
and you're like, ooh the cookout, Like, no, it don't
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work like that, It just doesn't.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I'm so sad of that. I just had to get
that off my chest. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well now, because I talked about this and I did
a full breakdown of the special on my YouTube channel,
and I mentioned that part about just allowing allowing white
people into our spaces, not that we are trying to
actively be segregated again, but the fact that sometimes we
let white people into our spaces and they do one
of two things. They burn it down or they take
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our stuff and say that they created it. So that's
my problem with allowing white people at the cook I
don't think nobody get an in word passed. I feel
like if ain't nobody ever called you a nigga and
meant it in a derogatory way as a person whose
skin tone was brown or black, you can't say nigga?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But why are you so pressed to say it? I
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
There's so many other words to use. Why are you
so pressed to use it? I don't understand the dedication
I want to because you know what, you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Everything we do, it's just annoying. I can't deal. I
just it's annoying. I think it's about consent we have.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I think this is a good conversation brand because I
think it's about consent.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Do you know how many people get off on doing
shit that.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
You specifically told them not to do?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Do I do? I?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I do that problem I think they if the one
thing we asked them not to do. We already asked
y'all for reparations, y'all said no. We asked y'all, could
we go to college for free? Y'all said no. We
actually all put you by homes. We asked y'all, could
we have universal health? Could we ask y'all for the
bear minimum and ah things? Y'all said no. We said,
don't Tom took the bare minimum and try to make
(21:56):
it theirs. Imagine everybody saying no to everything. You accept
the bare minimum. You make it look tight, You make
it look like it's a blast over here, because it
is a blast being black.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I want you to know that.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But you're like, well, we want that too. Now we
were like the bare minimum as well.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I don't understand that. Girl. The problem is they gonna
it ain't the bare minimum.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
When they get ahold of it, they do the most,
which is which is why we have things like gentrification,
which is why we have uh when people when when
we have white girls on TikTok to myself, Oh, I
just found this new hairstyle and then uh, it's it's
box braids, or when variety not variety, When Vogue released
that state that article and they called Afro a cloud bob.
(22:38):
Remember I've seen that. That's the type of stuff that
is when they take them box braids out and all
their hair fall out. That's my favorite thing to watch.
And that's what you'd be doing. They should be doing,
because what keVs on stage say is for black people anyway,
and people like to get offended when I say stuff
like that. Put the braids in your hair if you
want to, dummy, I'm telling you this because your hair
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is not genetically designed for that.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Stupid.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's not because we want to gate keep hair Johnny like, let.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Them do it.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
If you want to put listen, if you want to
be got to be good on your hair, if you
want to put or shine in your hair, if you
want to weigh your stringy, thin, see through hair down
with all these products, go right ahead, Emily, go right ahead,
because in six weeks you're gonna look like Cynthia from
the Rugrats.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I won't be sad about it.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, every single time, every time shot. I mean, girl,
it's stupid. I feel like we I feel like we're
having to negotiate and argue and defend so much about
our culture.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
When black culture is the culture.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Y'all wouldn't have none of the culture y'all have when
you think about food, hair, makeup, fashion, everything in this
country comes from somewhere else if not Black people.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yes, yes, So.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I just want them to be I just want them
to be a little more respectful about taking from us,
because the same things that we do that y'all find
ghetto and ratchet, y'all do it and it's edgy and
it's you know, it's it's it's on all God and
all these fancy white people French words.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Right. I don't like it. Right, I don't like it even, Friend,
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I second that, Okay, square Okay, if we don't do
nothing else, we're gonna scare some shit, ain't we Because
if it needs to be squared, then we're gonna square it. Okay?
But I think I uh too. I love that we
are having these kinds of conversations. These are the types
of topics that I would like to cover all the time,
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and I kind of want to change in gears just
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Friend. I know that we we talk about a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Of stuff, and not to get too personal, but I
feel like there are times when our lives when we
just be like, I wish I.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Would have done something sooner. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
So Jack m Brand was recently doing an interview and
she talked about how she started her brand with no
real plan, no blueprint.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And no perfect execution, and she said she just started.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
She didn't really have everything figured out, but she knew
she had an idea and she had to move. Now
she's facing some criticism because a lot of people are
saying that you know, well, you need to have everything
not necessarily perfect, but you need to have some type
of plan.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
And I disagree with her.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
What do you think about that that you need to Okay,
there was two questions, something I wish I would have
done sooner? And then do I think that I need
to have a plan for just life in general? Because
she's basically she's saying that she didn't she didn't wait
to pursue something until it was perfect.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
If you have something in your life that you wish
you would have done sooner?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
And also, how do you feel about her saying she
just didn't even have no plan, She just went for.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I like sometimes just going out. I don't have no
plan for this year okay, and I got the.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
First time no plan.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I've just been doing whatever, and honestly it's been working out.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I mean, you know there's something down to that, but
I've been tired.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I'm really an advocate for like New Year's resolutions, right,
I don't really like them. I don't really like New
Year's resolutions because when I come up with something, I'm like,
why don't I just do it now? Why do I
have to wait until January first? To start whatever it is?
I've been thinking since October, but I'm gonna start it
in January.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It just New Year's resolutions just never work for me.
So I don't mind planning things.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I do like structure, but I don't think that they're
to be honest with you, I don't think there'll ever
be a right time to start the thing you want
to start. You can prepare as much as you want,
and something else that you don't know is always gonna
come up and you're always going to have to plan
for that, you know, So I kind of like winging
it sometimes. I like structure, but I do like winging it.
One thing I wish I would have done early is
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in I really wish it I would have took stocks
like stocks and you know, like ruth accounts and things
like that, more serious like I have a four one
K and all of that stuff. But I wish I
would have started early, like learning about investing in what
that means, because now in my age, girl, I could
be a millionaire had I done it, like in my twenties.
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If you had just bought that house in kindergarten instead
of playing outside.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You see what I'm saying, playing house should have been
buying house. But y'all, you know what y'all broke though,
And y'all don't understand. Do you see what I'm saying.
It's low vibrational. It's the phones. Y'all need to say
out the shockwave than how they get on the internet
(27:44):
and talk to us. Girl, broke homes because we're not further.
Get right here. It's the problem. This is an issue.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
This is get out of here, Get them out of here,
discontinuenty you them now.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I'm tired of them. I don't like. I agree with
your friend. I agree.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I think I think we can have concepts of a planet.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Fair down, just the concepts of a plan.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Sometimes because I used to get caught up in and
I'm sure you can talk to this too. I used
to get caught up in perfection because when you do content, people,
regardless of what your video was about, people are going
to pick at the thing that shouldn't nobody be paying
attention to. Hello, Oh your nose ring looks like this, Oh,
(28:32):
this piece of hair, this one braid, Oh, your gending
and like and don't get me started with all up
in your background, whatever's going on back.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And it's it's a it's an unexpected thing.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But it made me like overly aintal about how I
presented myself to the world, and so I really had
to do. I have to do like a breakdown of
my personality and then build myself.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Back up, because regardless of what.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You think about this video, you cannot dispute the fact
that I am talented, smart, funny, resourceful.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
As well as paid.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
And so I think I think we got to let
go of perfection a little bit, because, especially like on
social media, where everything is so heavily curated and people
are telling us, you know, oh, this.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Week is perfect. You ain't gonna see the lace. Oh,
these venires are perfect.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
You ain't gonna see the them looking like a horse
or oh this this, you know, like we go out
of our way to present this image of perfect and
it just doesn't exist. And I think a lot of
times too, like we have to we have to just
do the thing right, Yeah, just do it.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
A good example would be like I did.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
My Kevin Heart content or whatever, and I was upset
because I had just got my hair done, but I
didn't have time to do my makeup because I've been saying,
I'm like, friend, you got to get up and put
makeup on a little more consistently, maybe just just thinking
in your little girly face, yeah, gray, have a makeup on.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
But I got up and I did that content and
that video hitting me four. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It don't have to be perfect. Sometimes you just gotta start,
just gotta start. And I think putting that message out
there is important. Well, guys, a lot of people look
at us as content creators and they feel as though
we had this whole thing planned out from the jump.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Absolutely I don't know. I did not know.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And I will tell you that whatever I thought when
I started this, it's not where I'm at today.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Like I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
This is where I didn't know. I was gonna be
working one I ain't know. I mean, I'm gonna be jerling.
I didn't know nothing that happened. Now I just started.
And I think like when people are waiting for that perfect, perfect,
perfect moment, you don't realize that, like years and years
and years and years and years are going by and
you still have to start.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Like look at all the time you wasted trying.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
To start, Like if you just start, then you'll be
way further.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Ahead than if you didn't.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Just know that if you start, you'll be way further
ahead than if you didn't at all. And so that's
my biggest thing, is like I just do stuff sometimes
just to see if I can do it, Like it
might be scary, I might be nursed.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I do have anxiety drilling.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
No, I got a little anxiety, real anxiety for real.
But it's like I tell you it. See me helped
me through with y'all, no worries. We are really a team. Okay,
you hear me. I'll really be working through that anxiety
because anxiety is fair and that will stop you from
going after the things that you want to go for
and like do. So I'm just saying, you got the
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idea try it and you can learn along the way.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
You don't want to.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You want to learn the all the stuff you gotta learn,
like right now, because when you get further along, you
don't want to make mistakes, so have to learn things
that you could have learned earlier on. So like when
that comes up later on, you'll be like, all right,
deal with that.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I know what to do now.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
But if you're waiting, then you learning all these big
major mistakes. When you finally decide to start, it's like.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Just doing now, what the Yeah, you're a Nike, Just
do it? Just do it? You on a couch. You
ain't doing nothing. Hit do it.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You're sitting at home, sitting on the couch, wasting your time.
Y'all up all the Syria before I got the work.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I ain't shit.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Make you feel bad, girl, but that's the that's like
a society that we live in. Like we get told
that stuff got to be perfect. And so I'm glad
you're not perfect, friend, because I think all the things
that are imperfect about you are why we work so well,
because they mesh with all the things that are imperfect
about me, and like perfection just does not exist. The
sooner we stop trying to achieve it and just try
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to be the best at whatever we're doing.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I think we will be.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
In a lot better positions, and so I hope that
hopefully something that we said resonated with y'all. Y'all, don't
feel like you're just criticizing y'all, because let me be
the first to say I'm not perfect either. I'm not
even I'm nowhere close. I want you to know I
have plenty of flaws. I'm wrong often.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And is a bunch of stuff that I just do
not know. Same girl, me and sit on the phone and.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Just talk about you need people who want to do things.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I would say that if you can't get.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yourself motivated right and you seem to me having a
hard time, we'll surround yourself with people who want to
do things, who want to excel, who want to get
further in life. Because me and Grelem will get on
the phone thinking we're just shooting the breeze and next
thing you know, we've done talked about like ten business
things that we need to do. We gotta get a
trip together for our followers. We need to start this
business plan. We need to go here, Like you need
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people who can ignite that in you so that you
will feel like you're always moving forward.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So if you look at your circle, and I'm not
saying write people off, that ain't what I'm saying. I'm
just saying, if you look at your circle and you
see your mindset is somewhere else, and you want to
be somewhere else, and you kind of moving in that direction,
and you're kind of surrounding yourself with people who are
very complacent or content or kind of lack the motivation
to do so, then you need to change some people
in your circle. I ask some people who can actually
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help you get there, because as long as you surround
your people who don't want nothing but what they already have,
then that's exactly where you'll be too. So I think
it's really important. Like me and Joline were really good
together because things she's good at I'm not, things I'm
good at she's not, and then we just talk about
it and then we just come up with a whole plan.
Is lit like it's really over here. Yeah, it is
(34:25):
truly a blessing to have people in your circle that
compliment you, And I think that'd be the problem that
a lot of people want somebody, uh to.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I don't need somebody who's just like me. No, I'm flawed.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I literally just said, I don't know everything, So why
would I want to be in cahoots with someone who
only knows as much as I know.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I know about.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
That's a recipe for a disaster, and so you know,
it's always it's always fun to be surrounded by people
like that that can push you to the next level.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
For me, that's the only competing I want to do
with people that I call my friends. How hard are
you going to push me today to be a better person?
That's the competition. It's not us competing against each other.
It's us. Let's see who can support the other person
the heartiest.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Or let's let's see who can create who can create
more money for us and ravenue this year? Yes, that's
really only one yet the money. God, we have had
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a time today.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I think, yes, we can't.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I don't think we can end on a better No,
we donet give y'all a mini sermon. We doesn't give
y'all encouragement and we done tell y'all's a little bit.
So I go well rounded episode that is good And
if you want more to Thursdays on YouTube For the
visuals you want to listen, you could just listen to
us wherever you listen to your podcast.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Just make sure you like, comment and subscribe.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Hit that notification bill so you know every time your
girl's friend.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
All right, chime for next time.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Bye h
What's it everybody in y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Girl Describable aka Jerlyn Lay checking in with none other
than my bestie for the rest of.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Y'all, listen to this, she said.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The first podcast an Urban one Podcast and the Urban
one Podcast Network. Here, welcome, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. Hey,
we have made it through another week. Now. We did that, honey, Oh,
(00:37):
I do feel legally blind. It's just been so much
going on. So friend, like we started every other episode,
you gotta talk to me about what irritated you this week. Frank,
I think it's gonna irritate me for a while. I'm
gonna start walking, walking walking. I don't walk the gas
(00:59):
for in the gas, I can't. I can't do the gas. Friend,
That's reressful. It's very structful. Every time I pull up
and I'm like, I'm looking at it because I'm like, dang,
I only got like five gallons, but we up to
like twenty five thirty dollars, like the meter off of something.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So I'm not right with that. I don't know. We
got to get that man about it. That's what I know.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You drive in a space ship because I'm not just
extra termstoryam.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No. I thank God that I work from home and
I don't have to move around too much because I
put by thirty five or forty dollars in there and
the hour weeks.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, you know I got I buy my cars based
on the gas. Oh okay, okay, you know people be like,
well you need to get something new, girl, ultimate that
should tell you everything you need. This out right now,
tell you everything you need. Girl, doing me good.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I've been using that car since I think twenty eighteen
I bought that car or twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And so maybe this car has been holding me through
and I'm not gonna this car is going to have.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
To explode with me in it for me to get
you say, I'm not giving my car. I'm gonna blame
you God twenty oh You're so lucky.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Friends driving me crazy. I was looking at bikes the
other day. I ain't rode a bike in so long.
I was looking to see you maybe I could give,
you know, get some mousing on a bike or something.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't know. I can't even gas like that.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Getting a bike will have positive health consequences. We would
all be more we would be more fit. I could
get a bike now now am I going to use
it realistically?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No? Why haven't I.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Seen you on the rollerblades again? Okay, do I come
to your house and a taxi? I want to know
why haven't I seen you on the rollerblades?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
You got a second way of transportation.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Road. We just got to hurt this on my third
day out, like you just came from me real hard Yaya.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Never seen them rollerblades again.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The way my calves, everything from the kneecap and surrounding
areas was on fire. I said, I don't know what.
Who did I think I was buying a pair of
roller skates. And that's what pissed me off this week,
me because thinking I'm cousin on somebody. My life is
(03:31):
not Nickelodeon's stick Baby. I need to take it on up.
So I said, one video and.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You won't see anohing now.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You know it's funny because I saw videos every day
of people rollerblade on the belt line and I thought
that was cute. She was like, we're going to attempt
to roll to take to roller blade the entire belt
line today and I was just thinking to myself, girls,
like twenty miles from like that, ten to twenty something
like that, and I just kept thinking to myself, I
don't know if this is on the n will, but
they ended up doing a little bit short but that
(04:03):
ended up they did you know, do it? And I
was like, that looked like so much fun. But I
just know y'all got thirty minutes out of me. It's
the amount of time it took me to film that video.
That video may have been ten minutes long on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh my god, I was done. So yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I think that was that was my limit there that
one little time it was or whatever, but.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Never again. But free we have. This week has been
a ship show. We got to get into a lot
of stuff. Girl, what happened? You know?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I really want to talk about doctor Cheyenne Bryant because
the way that she's been tousling for her life in
the comments for these last couple of weeks about this
honorary doctorate degree.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And she just went on a breakfast.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Club today and tried to dispel the rooms. I said,
they're not dispell them just after school was non existent
trying then you don't got it?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
That so is the degree?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I don't work, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I don't know if you understand how a defense work.
But it's obvious that you're not an attorney either, because
girls go to hell. Okay, go straight to hell. Come
on now, baby, It's like, and then I had called
financial aid, and if I had, you still don't got it.
Where are receipts, babe. We're looking for receipts. Were looking
for diplomas, We're looking for degrees.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You don't got it. We're looking for doctorates. You don't it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
The way when people sit up and playing our face
every day, I think it's very important right now to
shift the conversation from we're not just talking about doctor
Sean and Bryant. Doctor is so funny to me, like,
you're not just right, We're not just talking about her.
What I'm talking about is the fact that life coaches
and people that are your whole job is to encourage people,
the motivational speakers and stuff. That's cute, But when it
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comes to mental health illnesses and people that need possibly
medication to help regulate their emotions and mental state, we
need to have a serious conversation about how we let
uncertified people play in our face.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, but online, they're gonna get everybody online.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Because everybody is giving it unsolicited advice all the time
about I mean, people could say that about us, but
we ain't got no doubt in front of our name.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
We adopted in front of not let me tell you,
let me tell you why. It's not the same. What
we're doing is key king amongst each other.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
We are not telling people this is how you should
live your life. This is if you have this problem,
this is how you should fix it.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
That is not what we're doing. This sighting has gone
on podcasts.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Off the podcast and let people call her doctor doctor
Ryan talking about as in the middle of a therapy position.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
How was you in a therapy position and you're.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Not a licensed that's crazy, Bobby, don't say nothing about
doctor Umar.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Who don't say nothing about doctor.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I literally was thinking out, I.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Mean, I guess I don't know talking baby.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We have been dragging doctor Umar for you when you promise,
thank you? No no real Where is that school he said.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
He was building for us? Where is it?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
We haven't seen nothing? Went stood outside when like this
and we.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Ain't seen nothing. How you do? How you do? He
went like this and we ain't saying nothing. The nigga
paying the parameter said that should do it. Y sound.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It's me all frustrated because I feel like as a community,
we just people that have the biggest following.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We just go whatever they say. And I don't think
that that's right. I understand we do have things called
thought leaders.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
We have people in the community that we we enjoy
getting their opinion about things like like our case in point,
we're somebody's favorite content creators.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Don't know who it is, don't care, but we're somebody's face. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That do not mean we need to run for a
congressional seat, right. You know, we got to learn how
to start separating the difference. And I think that when
somebody is listen, Doctor Raquel Martin went on a tangent
about this one day, and they tried to eat her
up because she is a licensed clinical therapist and right
to be talking for one, but they ain't her. If
(08:22):
anybody could, it would be doctor Raquel Martin. But baby,
they was trying to eat her up in a comments
somebody she being mean and she's just trying to take
down another black woman.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And here's the thing, doctor, cheyenne.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Doctor, here's the thing you say, because we're.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Playing time too.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But the thing about her is she markets herself a
certain type of way.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I'm not saying that she is a grifter, but I'm
saying that we have to be very careful in our
community about hearing it's inspirational messages and things that people
are amending in the comments, because that's how the church
got us. Yeah, all I'm saying is that's how the
church got us. Singing him slaying left and right and
kumbaya in this moment and ain't doing a damn thing
(09:07):
for us. So I think you know much respect to
her being. I mean, she has a I don't know
what her credentials are. I just know it ain't doctor. Okay,
good where you're gonna go with this face?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
But people want out or something.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, and we are not tearing down another black woman.
You can give us solicited advice. It becomes a problem
when you say you're a doctor and you're just not.
It's just like if you want to go in for
surgery and he said, and you found out the person
who did surgery on you wasn't a doctor, would you
be like you trying to tear down another black surgeon. Well,
he's not a surgeon. So how do you feel about
(09:43):
the Bosch body?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Now doesn't make sense? You know what I mean? So
you got it? You just like you can give your
unsolicited advice. Five.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's different when you're claiming to have something that you
don't have so that you can get more recognition than
you deserve.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That's all we're saying.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, like people believe that you are holding on to
what you said tooth and nail.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And you ain't got no come on here, you gotta
be smarter than this. We got we gotta be smarter
than that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And furthermore, I think we have every right people that
have platforms, you can feel how you want to feel
about what I'm about to say, whether you acknowledge it
or accept it or not, you have a responsibility to
You gotta have some type of integrity with the content
that you put out, Okay, and if you don't, you
are subject to scrutiny because we absolutely have the right
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to hold you accountable. Which brings me to my next point.
What the hell happened at that Netflix? Kevin Hart Rose?
So I didn't watch it. I did not watch you,
and let me tell you why. I cringed, I cranged
out a few moments. But one thing, you know, I
have drelian. Though I suffer, I cannot do second hand embarrassment.
I don't know how to sit through that. Pray, I
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can't sit through it and make my stin crawl. And
all I saw was somebody said something about George Floyd,
and I said, oh, I will never tune into this
in fun of George.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
That is nothing funny. That's literally nothing I could think
of that would be funny about bringing out George Floyd.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So right then, and I think I just made the
executive decision to like not watch it because I didn't
want second hand embarrassment.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I really don't know to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, I think the larger issue for me was how
are y'all niggas up there letting these white people get
these racist jokes off? You brought maga comedians to your roles?
What were we expect? I feel like the people that
wrote the jokes, because we know the comedians don't write
their own jokes in some of those you know, roles,
I feel like the people that wrote the jokes and
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who produced it said let's see how racist we can be.
And there's you know, there's another situation where people are saying, well,
this is Kevin Hart's humiliation ritual. He's getting getting into
the illuminati with this, and I'm like, I don't know
if that's factor fiction. What I know is I don't
have a single white person in my life, friend, relative,
or business associate that feels comfortable saying nigga jokes around me.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Not a single one, which.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Is crazy because how long have you I'll let that fly, right,
because sometimes you can look at them, but I like
to look at the other side, because why do they
feel so comfortable with getting that off their chest? And
nobody said nothing about it, Like, from what I'm hearing,
nobody checked it. Everybody was just sitting there kicking in
and laughing like ha ha ha, Like this is not
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I'm not gonna grin a smile. I don't care if
it is a roast. I don't care if I am
supposed to laugh if it's not funny.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I'm literally gonna sit there like, well, I mean, it's
two things to your point, time and place.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I understand. And people are like, well, you don't understand
the purpose of a ross. Honey, I grew up in
the nineties. I'm probably okay, not mine from im. I
was literally born and raised in Memphis and then grew
up part of my life in Mississippi. I'm not a
stranger to getting checked on the playground, roasted in at
the cafeteria like you've been roasting niggas since we was
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old enough to talk down here. This is going to
call it jump out and so for sure, So it's
not like we're confused about the person of this. What
we're saying is typically put. The jokes did not land,
and some people did stand up.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I think Chelsea Handler glazed over it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
She made a comment about them being white supremacists and
MEGA supporters. But Cheryl Underwood got up there and said
exactly what needed to be said, shout out to.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
My girl, Cheryl Underwood. But all these jokes, the girl I.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Was making all these jokes about her being blacktty blackety black,
which pitched me off because.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Shut the hell up.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's like they don't have nothing else to talk about
but how they're racist. And so Cheryl got out there
she basically said, your little jokes is cute.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Or whatever, but just no, you an Inglewood baby.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
If you got any closer to that end word, you
probably wouldn't have made a home tonight. And so to
the guy Tony hinchclub, he was the red faced little guy.
They kept making homophobic jokes, which I don't care if.
I don't care if he gay or not. My problem
is you racist. That's my problem for you to feel
comfortable sitting up there making jokes about George Floyd. And
then Shane gill Us the whole he was saying, I
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think he made a joke about Kevin Hart being lynched
from a bunzai tree because he's so short.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I don't ask whether human is in this. I can't
find it. Not when black men are still being lynched
in twenty twenty six in DC at the police station.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Interesting observation, like we're still joking about that.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So I to the point about you know, Cheyenne and
Kevin Hart.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I think people in I feel like it was Sidney
Poitier who said, maybe to Jamie Fox, with great with
great influence or exposure, comes great responsibility or something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And I think, and I could be wrong, Please fact
check me out. I'm not saying I know.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Everything, but the gist of it is, when you have
a platform as large as some of us do, you
have to be held accountable for what you're doing say,
and I think that was just extremely tasteless, and I
think people are brushing it off as while they felt
comfortable doing that is because ah, it's just jokes.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And this is how comedy I think is off limits.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And my thing is, okay, if we are going to
if we're gonna take that approach, then you have to
also be willing to accept that people will be offended.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, you shouldn't watch a roast if you're gonna be offended.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I think it was gonna make a George Floyd Joe
and listen, and we're talking about Lynchen and that a
joke because nothing about that is funny, Like, I don't
see what learning that's right white people. And you know
what's weird is that they can get on a public
platform and say stuff like that about George Floyd, about Lynchon.
But then Drew Ski makes a video never says a name, though,
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doesn't drop a name, doesn't anything, and people are he
could have I could name some names now, but I
don't want us to get canceled.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Doesn't matter now anyway, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Doesn't There's a lot of things he could have called her.
He didn't say a name. He literally just mimicked what
she already did. She mimic what she has already done,
and people went crazy. So that's crazy that somebody who
just mimic what you do, don't say anything, gets all
this backglass again, deaths, you know, losing certain opportunities. But
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then you have somebody who will literally go on a
platform and speak it out loud in front of a
room full of black people, and it's like, well, it
was just a joke.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It was it was just comedy. I'm confused, that's the
excuse to be racist.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Girl day A lot of these dudes, and you're another question,
where would the ogs then?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Because the only OG's I saw up there was Cheryl.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Underwood Cat and I'm talking about from our community, Underwood
and Kat Williams.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I saw a lot of people in the audience.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I saw Mojo Brooks, I saw Dion Cale, I saw
the guys from the Last Funny af.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
The Newest special that Kevin Kevin Hart did. Uh, I
can see them.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I saw I saw Chante, which is the youngest niece
I think, and I saw Craig So I you know,
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
V Mack would never No, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Bernie Mack would absolutely but it would not go down
like that. No, I said, he would never let it
happen like Bernie. Like Bernie Mack would never let people compared.
They're like, well, we had worst roast in the in
the nineties, and I'm saying, I ain't never heard nobody
say nothing crazy like Bernie Mack was on stage. Unless
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you now, I will, I would be corrected. Please, No,
it's I look at all Bernie Mac specials. I looked
at everything that's comedy, jam Kings of comedy, everything the
Bernie Mac show.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Hell, ain't nobody never played in that, man say ever
it never gave that. So no, you know, anybody.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
When we do it, they say we screaming victim because
black people get on stage and talk about white people
all the time.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And I think people, this is the this is a
different conversation.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I feel like people get racism confused with having to
be racially aware.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Mhm. We literally have to know.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
We have to know everything we're supposed to know about
white people to survive.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
We don't give a damn about y'all.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Realistically, we have to because we don't want to get
murdered in the street.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
We we we cater our our behaviors and our speech to.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
How your body language is in the moment, and we
we constantly have to make ourselves smaller because white people
just don't have no type of remorse for the way
they've taken up faith and lynched us, ate us and
our children are alligant, Like.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We're not We're not cracking jokes because we are racist.
We're cracking jokes because sometimes you have to laugh to
keep from crying.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Y'all cracking jokes because it's is shit you've been wanting
to say.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You say it at your grandma house all the time
because she still refers to black people as color, but you.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Know you can't say it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
ND and the comics that the black comics that allow
it on the regular because I don't know if you remember,
but there was a clip of Jerry Seinfield with Chris
Rock and I think Lewis C. K Okay and somebody else,
and they were making a joke and Chris Rock was like, oh, yeah,
he gets a pass to say nigger, and they just
kept saying nigga, nigga, nigga, iggab back up, and Jerry
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Seinfield had to be the one to be like, nah,
I don't think that's exactly praying it, and I'm not
looking for the humor in it because Chris Rock is
the same person as Kevin Hark is crazy?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
What is that? And stop inviting everybody to the cookdout.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I don't want to say that because y'all see a
white man with a fade and a due rag and
be like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You can come.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You see somebody make some barbecue chicken wings on the braill,
and now all of a sudden he can come to
the cookout. He got a little swag, don't put that on.
And now it's like, you invite us to the cook
Stop inviting everybody can't come to the cookout. I hate
when I see y'all say that, just because y'all so
easily distracted. Somebody dangle something in front of your face
and you're like, ooh the cookout, Like, no, it don't
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work like that, It just doesn't.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I'm so sad of that. I just had to get
that off my chest. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well now, because I talked about this and I did
a full breakdown of the special on my YouTube channel,
and I mentioned that part about just allowing allowing white
people into our spaces, not that we are trying to
actively be segregated again, but the fact that sometimes we
let white people into our spaces and they do one
of two things. They burn it down or they take
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our stuff and say that they created it. So that's
my problem with allowing white people at the cook I
don't think nobody get an in word passed. I feel
like if ain't nobody ever called you a nigga and
meant it in a derogatory way as a person whose
skin tone was brown or black, you can't say nigga?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But why are you so pressed to say it? I
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
There's so many other words to use. Why are you
so pressed to use it? I don't understand the dedication
I want to because you know what, you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Everything we do, it's just annoying. I can't deal. I
just it's annoying. I think it's about consent we have.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I think this is a good conversation brand because I
think it's about consent.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Do you know how many people get off on doing
shit that.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
You specifically told them not to do?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Do I do? I?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I do that problem I think they if the one
thing we asked them not to do. We already asked
y'all for reparations, y'all said no. We asked y'all, could
we go to college for free? Y'all said no. We
actually all put you by homes. We asked y'all, could
we have universal health? Could we ask y'all for the
bear minimum and ah things? Y'all said no. We said,
don't Tom took the bare minimum and try to make
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it theirs. Imagine everybody saying no to everything. You accept
the bare minimum. You make it look tight, You make
it look like it's a blast over here, because it
is a blast being black.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I want you to know that.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But you're like, well, we want that too. Now we
were like the bare minimum as well.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I don't understand that. Girl. The problem is they gonna
it ain't the bare minimum.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
When they get ahold of it, they do the most,
which is which is why we have things like gentrification,
which is why we have uh when people when when
we have white girls on TikTok to myself, Oh, I
just found this new hairstyle and then uh, it's it's
box braids, or when variety not variety, When Vogue released
that state that article and they called Afro a cloud bob.
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Remember I've seen that. That's the type of stuff that
is when they take them box braids out and all
their hair fall out. That's my favorite thing to watch.
And that's what you'd be doing. They should be doing,
because what keVs on stage say is for black people anyway,
and people like to get offended when I say stuff
like that. Put the braids in your hair if you
want to, dummy, I'm telling you this because your hair
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is not genetically designed for that.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Stupid.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's not because we want to gate keep hair Johnny like, let.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Them do it.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
If you want to put listen, if you want to
be got to be good on your hair, if you
want to put or shine in your hair, if you
want to weigh your stringy, thin, see through hair down
with all these products, go right ahead, Emily, go right ahead,
because in six weeks you're gonna look like Cynthia from
the Rugrats.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I won't be sad about it.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, every single time, every time shot. I mean, girl,
it's stupid. I feel like we I feel like we're
having to negotiate and argue and defend so much about
our culture.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
When black culture is the culture.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Y'all wouldn't have none of the culture y'all have when
you think about food, hair, makeup, fashion, everything in this
country comes from somewhere else if not Black people.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yes, yes, So.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I just want them to be I just want them
to be a little more respectful about taking from us,
because the same things that we do that y'all find
ghetto and ratchet, y'all do it and it's edgy and
it's you know, it's it's it's on all God and
all these fancy white people French words.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Right. I don't like it. Right, I don't like it even, Friend,
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I second that, Okay, square Okay, if we don't do
nothing else, we're gonna scare some shit, ain't we Because
if it needs to be squared, then we're gonna square it. Okay?
But I think I uh too. I love that we
are having these kinds of conversations. These are the types
of topics that I would like to cover all the time,
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and I kind of want to change in gears just
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Friend. I know that we we talk about a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Of stuff, and not to get too personal, but I
feel like there are times when our lives when we
just be like, I wish I.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Would have done something sooner. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
So Jack m Brand was recently doing an interview and
she talked about how she started her brand with no
real plan, no blueprint.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And no perfect execution, and she said she just started.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
She didn't really have everything figured out, but she knew
she had an idea and she had to move. Now
she's facing some criticism because a lot of people are
saying that you know, well, you need to have everything
not necessarily perfect, but you need to have some type
of plan.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
And I disagree with her.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
What do you think about that that you need to Okay,
there was two questions, something I wish I would have
done sooner? And then do I think that I need
to have a plan for just life in general? Because
she's basically she's saying that she didn't she didn't wait
to pursue something until it was perfect.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
If you have something in your life that you wish
you would have done sooner?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
And also, how do you feel about her saying she
just didn't even have no plan, She just went for.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I like sometimes just going out. I don't have no
plan for this year okay, and I got the.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
First time no plan.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I've just been doing whatever, and honestly it's been working out.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I mean, you know there's something down to that, but
I've been tired.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I'm really an advocate for like New Year's resolutions, right,
I don't really like them. I don't really like New
Year's resolutions because when I come up with something, I'm like,
why don't I just do it now? Why do I
have to wait until January first? To start whatever it is?
I've been thinking since October, but I'm gonna start it
in January.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It just New Year's resolutions just never work for me.
So I don't mind planning things.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I do like structure, but I don't think that they're
to be honest with you, I don't think there'll ever
be a right time to start the thing you want
to start. You can prepare as much as you want,
and something else that you don't know is always gonna
come up and you're always going to have to plan
for that, you know, So I kind of like winging
it sometimes. I like structure, but I do like winging it.
One thing I wish I would have done early is
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in I really wish it I would have took stocks
like stocks and you know, like ruth accounts and things
like that, more serious like I have a four one
K and all of that stuff. But I wish I
would have started early, like learning about investing in what
that means, because now in my age, girl, I could
be a millionaire had I done it, like in my twenties.
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If you had just bought that house in kindergarten instead
of playing outside.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You see what I'm saying, playing house should have been
buying house. But y'all, you know what y'all broke though,
And y'all don't understand. Do you see what I'm saying.
It's low vibrational. It's the phones. Y'all need to say
out the shockwave than how they get on the internet
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and talk to us. Girl, broke homes because we're not further.
Get right here. It's the problem. This is an issue.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
This is get out of here, Get them out of here,
discontinuenty you them now.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I'm tired of them. I don't like. I agree with
your friend. I agree.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I think I think we can have concepts of a planet.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Fair down, just the concepts of a plan.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Sometimes because I used to get caught up in and
I'm sure you can talk to this too. I used
to get caught up in perfection because when you do content, people,
regardless of what your video was about, people are going
to pick at the thing that shouldn't nobody be paying
attention to. Hello, Oh your nose ring looks like this, Oh,
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this piece of hair, this one braid, Oh, your gending
and like and don't get me started with all up
in your background, whatever's going on back.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And it's it's a it's an unexpected thing.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But it made me like overly aintal about how I
presented myself to the world, and so I really had
to do. I have to do like a breakdown of
my personality and then build myself.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Back up, because regardless of what.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You think about this video, you cannot dispute the fact
that I am talented, smart, funny, resourceful.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
As well as paid.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
And so I think I think we got to let
go of perfection a little bit, because, especially like on
social media, where everything is so heavily curated and people
are telling us, you know, oh, this.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Week is perfect. You ain't gonna see the lace. Oh,
these venires are perfect.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
You ain't gonna see the them looking like a horse
or oh this this, you know, like we go out
of our way to present this image of perfect and
it just doesn't exist. And I think a lot of
times too, like we have to we have to just
do the thing right, Yeah, just do it.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
A good example would be like I did.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
My Kevin Heart content or whatever, and I was upset
because I had just got my hair done, but I
didn't have time to do my makeup because I've been saying,
I'm like, friend, you got to get up and put
makeup on a little more consistently, maybe just just thinking
in your little girly face, yeah, gray, have a makeup on.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
But I got up and I did that content and
that video hitting me four. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It don't have to be perfect. Sometimes you just gotta start,
just gotta start. And I think putting that message out
there is important. Well, guys, a lot of people look
at us as content creators and they feel as though
we had this whole thing planned out from the jump.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Absolutely I don't know. I did not know.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And I will tell you that whatever I thought when
I started this, it's not where I'm at today.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Like I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
This is where I didn't know. I was gonna be
working one I ain't know. I mean, I'm gonna be jerling.
I didn't know nothing that happened. Now I just started.
And I think like when people are waiting for that perfect, perfect,
perfect moment, you don't realize that, like years and years
and years and years and years are going by and
you still have to start.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Like look at all the time you wasted trying.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
To start, Like if you just start, then you'll be
way further.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Ahead than if you didn't.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Just know that if you start, you'll be way further
ahead than if you didn't at all. And so that's
my biggest thing, is like I just do stuff sometimes
just to see if I can do it, Like it
might be scary, I might be nursed.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I do have anxiety drilling.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
No, I got a little anxiety, real anxiety for real.
But it's like I tell you it. See me helped
me through with y'all, no worries. We are really a team. Okay,
you hear me. I'll really be working through that anxiety
because anxiety is fair and that will stop you from
going after the things that you want to go for
and like do. So I'm just saying, you got the
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idea try it and you can learn along the way.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
You don't want to.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You want to learn the all the stuff you gotta learn,
like right now, because when you get further along, you
don't want to make mistakes, so have to learn things
that you could have learned earlier on. So like when
that comes up later on, you'll be like, all right,
deal with that.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I know what to do now.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
But if you're waiting, then you learning all these big
major mistakes. When you finally decide to start, it's like.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Just doing now, what the Yeah, you're a Nike, Just
do it? Just do it? You on a couch. You
ain't doing nothing. Hit do it.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You're sitting at home, sitting on the couch, wasting your time.
Y'all up all the Syria before I got the work.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I ain't shit.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Make you feel bad, girl, but that's the that's like
a society that we live in. Like we get told
that stuff got to be perfect. And so I'm glad
you're not perfect, friend, because I think all the things
that are imperfect about you are why we work so well,
because they mesh with all the things that are imperfect
about me, and like perfection just does not exist. The
sooner we stop trying to achieve it and just try
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to be the best at whatever we're doing.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I think we will be.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
In a lot better positions, and so I hope that
hopefully something that we said resonated with y'all. Y'all, don't
feel like you're just criticizing y'all, because let me be
the first to say I'm not perfect either. I'm not
even I'm nowhere close. I want you to know I
have plenty of flaws. I'm wrong often.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And is a bunch of stuff that I just do
not know. Same girl, me and sit on the phone and.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Just talk about you need people who want to do things.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I would say that if you can't get.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yourself motivated right and you seem to me having a
hard time, we'll surround yourself with people who want to
do things, who want to excel, who want to get
further in life. Because me and Grelem will get on
the phone thinking we're just shooting the breeze and next
thing you know, we've done talked about like ten business
things that we need to do. We gotta get a
trip together for our followers. We need to start this
business plan. We need to go here, Like you need
(33:35):
people who can ignite that in you so that you
will feel like you're always moving forward.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So if you look at your circle, and I'm not
saying write people off, that ain't what I'm saying. I'm
just saying, if you look at your circle and you
see your mindset is somewhere else, and you want to
be somewhere else, and you kind of moving in that direction,
and you're kind of surrounding yourself with people who are
very complacent or content or kind of lack the motivation
to do so, then you need to change some people
in your circle. I ask some people who can actually
(34:01):
help you get there, because as long as you surround
your people who don't want nothing but what they already have,
then that's exactly where you'll be too. So I think
it's really important. Like me and Joline were really good
together because things she's good at I'm not, things I'm
good at she's not, and then we just talk about
it and then we just come up with a whole plan.
Is lit like it's really over here. Yeah, it is
(34:25):
truly a blessing to have people in your circle that
compliment you, And I think that'd be the problem that
a lot of people want somebody, uh to.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I don't need somebody who's just like me. No, I'm flawed.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I literally just said, I don't know everything, So why
would I want to be in cahoots with someone who
only knows as much as I know.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I know about.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
That's a recipe for a disaster, and so you know,
it's always it's always fun to be surrounded by people
like that that can push you to the next level.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
For me, that's the only competing I want to do
with people that I call my friends. How hard are
you going to push me today to be a better person?
That's the competition. It's not us competing against each other.
It's us. Let's see who can support the other person
the heartiest.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Or let's let's see who can create who can create
more money for us and ravenue this year? Yes, that's
really only one yet the money. God, we have had
(35:34):
a time today.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I think, yes, we can't.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I don't think we can end on a better No,
we donet give y'all a mini sermon. We doesn't give
y'all encouragement and we done tell y'all's a little bit.
So I go well rounded episode that is good And
if you want more to Thursdays on YouTube For the
visuals you want to listen, you could just listen to
us wherever you listen to your podcast.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Just make sure you like, comment and subscribe.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Hit that notification bill so you know every time your
girl's friend.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
All right, chime for next time.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Bye h
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