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August 9, 2025 68 mins

Kia tau te rangimārie ki runga i a koutou. As-salamu alaykum. Shalom. Peace is so often something that we wish upon others, and even seek for ourselves. But what do we mean when we talk about peace? Can peace be more than just the absence of conflict, whether that is conflict within us or between people?

In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, producer Sam talks to spiritual director Shannon Mawdsley, activist Adrian Leason, and the Lead Chaplain of the NZDF, Dave Lacey, to hear how their perspectives on peacemaking align....and how they don't.

Petra then talks to Sunday Sanctuary regular Rev Frank Ritchie. They unpack what St Francis of Assisi meant when he prayed asking God to make him "an instrument of your peace". 

Music:

- Mesa Redonda by Hermanos Gutierrez (played between Shannon's and Adrian's interviews)
- Hanoi 6 by Unknown Mortal Orchestra (played between Adrian's and Dave's interviews)
- Nouh Al Hamam by Maryam Saleh (played between Dave's and Shannon's interviews)
- TUMUTUMU MAUNGA by Sanguine (played to end the first half)
- We Got To Have Peace by Curtis Mayfield
- Las Petits Gris by Khruangbin (played during the candle segment)
- Peace Piece by Bill Evans Trio
- Hope by Fat Freddy's Drop (played at the end of the episode)

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