December 18, 2024 • 41 mins
Our Walter Payton man of the Year nominee Arik Armstead joins the podcast and tells Jay about his favourite soccer players, safe to say he's a fan of the three lions. UK fan Carley asks the BIG QUESTION...What was your first Jags game?
There are prediction for the upcoming gam against the Raiders and another pun-tactic Christmas giveaway...and it really is quite a giveaway!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's twenty four degrees in Jacksonville. It's a twenty four
degrees in Jacksonville, eleven in Derby, twelve in Inverness. Actually
it's surprisingly mildn't it. This is Till Talk. I'm Jay Lawrence,
no relation, He's Key ram Surer and this is the
official Jacksonville Jaguars Podcast the UK and Ireland, presented by
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Gallagher Key.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, all right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Do you know what in the summer, when we were
saying it's twenty four degrees in Jacksonville, it was fine,
wasn't it. Now it's horrible?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, horrible. Now I'm reading it and I'm just feeling
ever so more slightly depressed. But hey, Christmas is coming up.
We gotta embrace Christmas. And we also have to embrace
the fact that Eric Armstead is coming up on the
show today, which is very exciting. Our Walter Peyton Man
of the Year Award nominee.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Key, how special is that?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I love to read that. I love to read that
and really nice addition to our defensive line this season. Yeah,
looking forward to hearing from Eric.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I think I'll be absolutely And if you don't know
anything about the water Payton, Man of the year. We
will be speaking about it of course with Eric, but
it recognizes an NFL player for his excellence on and
off the field, the player's commitment to philanthropy. Key, So
you know, it's quite a big thing, and some people
have said some NFL players have said that this is,
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you know, the biggest award that they've ever received. So
it really does mean a lot to NFL players, and
he's our nominee going forward. So anyway, we'll talk to
Eric a little bit later on about that. Carly is
on she's going to be giving us the big question
our Fan of the Week from the UK and Ireland.
But first, before we get into it, Key, you have
to talk about another loss for the Jacksonville Jaguars and
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fan I know, I know we're getting towards the end
of the season, but this is a different sort of
feeling for me, actually, Key, you know, losing to the
New York Jets. We all said, all of us, me,
you we had Sarah our fan of the Week on
last week, who actually wasn't that sure of a Jags win.
We all basically thought it would be a low scoring game. Yeah,
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and it wasn't particularly was it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It wasn't low scoring. It was a high scoring affair.
I really relative like, yeah, oh sure, I mean for
this season for the Jags, it was remarkably high scoring.
Let's say it felt like at one point I was like, yep,
we've really got this, and then blown coverage at the
end of the game. It's just like, uh yeah, I
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actually found Sunday a really really frustrating one because I
think we're better than the Jets. Man, we should be
winning that game. That's what I felt, like, What did
you think?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I think it's interesting. It's a really interesting matchup actually,
when you think about it, both teams going into the
season with high expectations. Objectively, you know, an entertaining game,
Jags in it throughout, yet again losing in the last
couple minutes. But you know, what do we have in
that game? In a season where there isn't going to
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be a postseason. We have some players, some rookie, some
young players, some big players for the future. They're at
least making themselves known. Yes, of course it was blowing coverage. Yes,
of course there was difficulties defensively as well. But we've
got to say congratulations to Brian Thomas Junior friend of
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the show. Brian Thomas Junior yet again making his mark
yet again, proving that he is the best young wide
receiver in the NFL. Rookie wide receiver for sure. Breaking
the franchise record for touchdowns and receiving yards as a
rookie A massive thing. I mean, we spoke about this
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last week. A massive thing to think that he is
going to be with the franchise and it's only his
first year, and it's only his first year and he's
had to play many games without Trevor Lawrence. Credit to
Mac Jones to an extent. You know, there were faults
with Mac Jones obviously more interceptions as you mentioned towards
the end of the game, but you saw that even
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they had a bit of a relationship. You could see that,
you know, just through the touchdowns and the over one
hundred you're receiving yards of Brian Thomas Jr.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He is a powerful weapon, no denying it, and he
is the future of this franchise. And there's been a
lot of talk this week, people saying that regardless of
the Jacksonville Jaguars, not only will he be a star
at the Jacksonville Jaguars, he's going to be a star
in the NFL all around, because he is an exceptional talent.
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Seeing that, and like you say, with Mac Jones as well,
when Trevor's healthy, when those two can get a rhythm going,
I think that's going to be something to behold. So
that is absolutely fantastic. Also really fantastic. Right was last
week's podcast. We're talking to Brian Thomas Junior and we say,
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you know, there's that rookie record within side, and he's going, yeah,
you know, that's sort of on my mind, and then
he goes and does it in the next game. I
absolutely loved that.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And you know he was thinking of us when he
did it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Of course he was Oh Jay, did he not message
you after?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Oh? Never mind?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Moving on.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, I mean we can feel negative about it. It
is another last there are as you say, it was
very frustrating at points, especially right at the tail end
of the game.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But to go to you're absolutely right. A couple of
the first and second year players like really making strides
in their game, really positive stuff. Parker Washington, Cam little
Tank Bigsby is having got much better season than he
did last season. Like I feel like he's earned the
trust of the coaches back because there were a couple
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of silly mistakes last season with you know, the ball
being on the ground, not realizing that it was the
end of a play, et cetera, et cetera. So for
him to be doing so much better this season, I
also think there's a lot of positives to take man
disappointing season, yes, but lots of positives.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
What I said earlier on in the season as well,
is that this is the point where it is, you know,
the season is done. Essentially, the season is done. There
isn't going to be a postseason, so you need to
look at what you've got and need to figure out,
you know, which of these players are going to be
staples going forward. And you know you've mentioned a few
then you mentioned cam Litton, obviously, your best mate, Parker,
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Brenton Strange as well, He's had you know, good points,
Jarry and Jones as well. I know that he didn't
have a perfect game in the last game, but these
are players that they're either rookies or they're early on
in their careers. And then combined with you know the
likes of Josh Heinzellen, likes of Trevor Lawrence, the people
that you know are going to be here for a
long time. You got to feel, Okay, we do have
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players here. We do have good players here. We just
need to be able to, you know, play like it essentially.
I know that's such an easy thing to say and
is a hard thing to do, but you know, credit
to them anyway, Jags fall to three and eleven, now
have eight losses by seven points or less. We could
easily say, oh, well, you know, if they just won
a few of them, this season will be different. Where
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they haven't. Yeah, they haven't.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Source Gardener right at the end of that game, getting
that interception, But I'm going to do one of your
magical segues here. There is a secret sauce that is
currently missing from the Jags because the talent is there
that like all the ingredients are there. Next season some
kind of secret sauce and we turn it around. That's
what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, all right, Well, we'll get into the upcoming game
against the Las Vegas Raiders a little bit later on
as well. We'll be giving our predictions. We'll be seen
seeing where the standings are as well, and how close
I am to winning Some Jags merch that Key owns. Yeah,
and it might be that I am mathematically there. I'm
(07:54):
not sure. Actually, we're going to find out. We'll find out. Okay, first,
so let's hear it from the Jaguar's nominee for the
Walter Payton Man of the Year. It's my conversation with
Eric Hmstead. Eric, thank you so much for joining us.
How are you today?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Good? Appreciate you having me first.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Year in Jacksonville. How have you found it? You know,
I think you know, considering that a little wikipediaing tells
me that is this the first time that you've lived
anywhere not on the West coast?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, this has been the first time.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The look on your face makes me think that that
was the first time that you've realized that this is
that this is the case.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I mean I've been I've been on the west on
the East coast for like a month or so, maybe
two months, but like having a residence in living full
time all year around.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, this's my first time on the East coast.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
How have you found it?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
It's been great, love Florida. My family loves it here.
We've adjusted well. Jacksonville is a great city, great community,
especially to raise a family.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I feel like, and so yeah, we're loving it here
in Florida.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And of course, you know, your time living out in
Jacksonville heavily dictated by what you do for a living
of causing the people that you spend time with. Can
you tell me a little bit about your relationship with
you know, the rest of the day line. I saw
somewhere the traveon in particular has been calling you the
old man of the line.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Has he been? He said, it's a young man's game. Well,
I think he'll learn. He'll learn pretty quickly that you
know what what the game is really truly about. You know,
he picks on me sometimes, but we have a great relationship.
Me and all other d linemen spend real refreshing, you know,
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joining the group and getting to know everybody and you know,
building informed relationships throughout the season. We have a lot
of fun together and you know, real, real close knit groups.
So it's been fun being a part of the guys.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Do you guys go out for dinner regularly or or
anything like that?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, we do dinners sometimes, we do.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
We get together watch film on Fridays at Josh Allen's house.
He hosts us and we have food and we watched
the film and talk about, you know, what we need
to do in the game.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
How would you write him as a host?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He's a great host man, you know, definitely a great host.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Appreciate him opening up his home to us, you know,
to have those to have that time to bond together.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay, let's talk water play and manner of the Yeah,
I mean, can you just tell tell us what it
means to be nominated for something like that?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
This is my fifth nomination, but first time obviously in
New City with the Jags. And you know, I've always
feel a sense of responsibility to give back to my
community and support the people around me. I'm no, you know,
not by any means where I'm at in life because
of solely what I've done. I've been super blessed to
have supportive people and being you know, the right situations
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a lot of times, and you know, healthy environments, and so,
you know, I believe that it takes a village to
raise young people. And so that's what we try to
do with the ARMS Academic Project. And you know, I
hope to represent you know, our organization well for that
sense of responsibility to do that and inspire you know,
other people to give back in ways they find important
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as well too.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I mean, you know, some people I've heard players before
talk about how this is, you know, an honor that
is comparable to be an MVP or you know, Defensive
Player of the Year or even win in the Super Bowl. Really,
you know, recipients of that award for sure.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
You know, the the NFL does a great job really
making the award really meaningful and prestigious, I would say,
and the type of onus and importance that they put.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
On the award that they're a great job.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
You know, meeting the Peyton family and Commissioner Goodell throughout
the years in the NFL being a part of the
events and the experience has been you know, amazing, and
they do a great job of really making it something
that's really powerful and really meaningful.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Can you talk a little bit about what you've been
doing in the Jacksonville community.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, so here in Jacksonville where you know, when I signed,
I wanted to continue do what we have been doing
in other areas and bring that here to Jacksonville, which
is support disadvantaged youth and their education and ensure that
you know, a zip code doesn't define a kid's future.
And so here in Jacksonville, my initial goal was to
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meet with community members and really find out what's needed
here and so and where the areas that we wanted
to have impact. And so we've been doing story times,
which has been great. I've read the kids all over
the world throughout the years. So going into schools teaching
the importance of literacy and showing that kids that is
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fun to read and fun to be smart, really is
that initiative with that, And then we also just had
our Blessings in the Backpack event, which my wife, who
we both run our organization together, really was the brain
behind that, in which, you know, we believe that a
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student can't focus in school if they don't have the
basic necessities that they need, and food scarcity here in
Jacksonville and all over the country really is is an issue.
And so providing kids with the food that they need
and also other resources that they need to be successful
in school and just in life in general. And that's
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one of our kind of social emotional wellness kind of initiatives.
And so we also held a luncheon for local community
members to really learn and understand. So we had another
of organizations come and met with them. The Boys and
Girls Club locally here North Florida, Elevate Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I know I might.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Forget some organizations, but there was a number of organizations
there who are already doing work. And we don't believe
in reinventing the will. We want to partner with people
who have similar missions and core values and even broaden
you know, broad in there, you know, broad in their
platform and and you know, so that's that's what we've
been doing this far in Jacksonville. We're excited to continue
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it going and and you know, build upon that more
and more.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That's amazing man. And you know, congratulations on being the nominee.
Good luck of course, you know, for the for in
a couple of weeks time. Look, first time playing in London?
I think am I right in saying that it was
your first time playing.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
In London the first time this past year? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, How how was it? Considering that you're talking to
someone that you know lives in London, Essentially you've got
to say something good?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I hope.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
No.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I definitely had a great experience. It was it was great.
It's kind of my first international game. It was a
great experience being there in London, having two games, being
able to have experience two different stadiums was great. You know,
I'm a little bit not the hugest but a little
bit of a soccer or football as well too, so
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being being able to play in those stadiums and fill
that kind of energy from the fans there in the
UK was amazing. I love London as a city. It's
definitely my type of vibe.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And do you have a sucker team that you support
it kind of.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
It kind of has changed throughout the years, I would say, definitely,
Like when I I gott into soccer just by playing
FIFA a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, And you know, there was.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
A time where I was using England's national team a
lot on FIFA back in the day when they had
Sterling and I think his name was like Sturridge.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yes, yes, done storage, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Daniel Sturrige obviously had Rooney and so yeah, that was
that was like my team I was using.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So essentially, you're an England fan, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
A little bit. I like Rashford too, yeah, and I
like some other players.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
But yeah, but you're doing You're doing well.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You're doing well.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You're doing. Your knowledge is good, Eric, thank you so
much for joining until talk today. I have a good Christmas.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Thank you appreciating Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That was my conversation with Jaggs Eric Armstead. JAG's not
mainly for the water Paton Man of the Year, of course.
Eric Armstead, all right, let's move on, shall we to
do vile dispatches? Okay, I'm going into this blind. I've
been doing that the last few weeks, haven't we key
when we're reading what's going on in the Jags World
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UK and Ireland. But our producer Simon has just absolutely
flooded it with dreadful Christmas puns. So let's see how
this goes.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Like walking through a jungle that has quicksand in it,
let's just get through it.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Jay, Yeah, exactly, a candy cane jungle of quickstand. It's
do vile dispatches with me. Yes, Jingle Jay Lawrence. Jingle
all the Jay Lawrence would have been better. Yeah that's
not even a pun. It's in yeah, jingle all the
Jay Lawrence and him, Chris, Christmas Tree, Ram Suran. I
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like it enough and this one doesn't make sense and
a re reindeer. I think this is meant to say, reminder,
a reminder, a reminder of our twelve days of jagsmus
competition and Jags fans, you'll love this. Please don't miss
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ale Tooe the chance to win. We might have done
that one already.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
We've done all of these already, and I certainly shouldn't
have twelve days of Christmas, twelve competitions, twelve amazing prizes
go to Jaguars UK and I E on X, Facebook
and Instagram.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Can we even talk about all these prizes are on offer? Key?
Because these prizes are actually mad.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
There's some amazing ones you should definitely be talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Okay, I want to be really clear on this. Okay,
if you are a fan of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and
I assume that you are, this is like integral you
go over to Jaguar's UK and I on X, Facebook
and Instagram. Because these prizes are crazy. I'm actually slightly
annoyed that I.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Don't even believe can be a real prize. There's no
way this is actually being given away.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I'll pull back the curtain. And I texted back being
like I was annoyed because I was like, I want
to do this anyway, these are the prizes that are
still on offer. We're not going to denigrate these with
some awful Christmas puns from the bottom of Simon's pun barrel.
So this is what we still have to unwrap under
the Christmas tree. So the nineteenth of December, signed Trevor
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Lawrence Jersey. That's good, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
That's good, right, fantastic, absolutely fantastic, worth it alone, and
that must be the best.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
One, Jay, absolutely not. The twenty first of December. Two
tickets to the twenty twenty five Wembley Stadium game. Again incredible.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Surely that's the best.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
One, jayly not. This is the crazy one. This is
this is so good. This one a real Christmas treet.
I suppose for one of you twenty third of December,
kissing Me in Florida, a trip over there, two flights,
four nights of accommodation, two spots in the twenty twenty
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five Kissing Me Golf Classic.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I mean, that is such a good prize, so I
have to like contribute seventy five percent of the cost
towards that trip.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It is absolutely not. I mean, this is an incredible prize,
isn't it. And it is all on the Twelve Days
of jagsmus to go over to janku as UK and
I on x Facebook and Instagram because those are some
amazing prizes and all right, it is getting towards Christmas obviously,
but that doesn't mean we're slowing down. With the show
that's on Sky Sports NFL with Rhys Parkinson. What's going
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on this week Key.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
So we have JP and Reese looking at the highlights
of the game, breaking it down for us, talking about
what's remaining for the rest of the season. JP and
Tony are previewing the Raiders game this coming Sunday, and
favorite bit for me is Reese getting a tour of
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the athletic training facilities with the VP of Health, which
is Jeff Ferguson known as Fergie to his mates, who
actually earlier this year won the Memorial Award for I'm
going to get this wrong, but it's something like Outstanding
Athletic Trainer of the Year, so pretty big deal. But honestly,
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Fergie is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet
in your life. And he gives Reese a tour of
the facilities, like tapes him up, puts him in a
hyperbolic chamber it's really good fun. Yeah, it's really good fun.
And like all of their spa pools and stuff like that,
it's really great.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That sounds luxurious.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Oh yeah it is. I actually forgot to direct because
I was too busy enjoying. It's basically a spa day.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You were just having a nice spa time, weren't you.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It is available on sky Sports NFL every Wednesday at
nine pm, and then it is repeated on sky Sports
NFL throughout the week and then all of the bits
will get put up on the Jaguar's UK YouTube channel
after that. But I probably should mention that over Christmas
period we're going to be airing on Thursdays. It is
Wednesday this week, but from Christmas and New Year Week
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it will be on Thursdays instead, So you.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Mean Wednesday, eighteenth of December, and then it will be
on Boxing Day, next episode of Boxing Day, it's a.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Boxing Day, and then January two for the following episodes.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, lovely. So last week Key, we decided we were
going to give away another signed rookie poster. So this
is signed from every single player that was after by
the Jacksonville Jaguars in twenty twenty four. A really pristine poster,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Key.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It's not got any crumples or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
No, it hasn't iqed for twenty four hours to get
it signed by all of the rookies, and then Sarah
from the Jags UK team spent twenty five hours ironing it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's definitely a crumpled poster. But it doesn't matter because you
still got these great players that, of course are with
the Jaguars, like Brian Thomas Junior, like Cam Little, two
of Key's favorite players of all time. They have signed
it at Jarry Jones.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I was just going to add Jarion Jones to that list.
I think he's had such a good season and I
like him man.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
So last week we launched the competition and we said
that you needed to do what Key to win it.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
We said that people needed to comment with the incredibly
creative phrase keep me in the frame on the YouTube's
and on the cast yes, on the podcast the YouTube's
and we had a lot of lovely comments, all of
them the same.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And I have.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Read how you enter the competition because that's how competitions were. Oay,
I have randomly chosen at Leon hds one as the
winner this week, who commented on the YouTube video? So,
Leon hds one, huge congratulations winning our not so crumpled poster.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
But still probably quite crop, still crumpled. Do they get
in touch with us? Do we get in touch with them?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
So, Leon hds one, I will comment on your comment
on the YouTube's telling you how to collect your prize.
Huge congratulations.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
All right, then should we get to it. It's time
for the big a question. All right, it's time for
the big question on til Talk. This is where we
get a Jacksonville Jaguar fan from the UK or Ireland
to give us the big question. This time around, Carl
the answer, what's the big question?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
My big question is when was your first Jags game?
When did you first see them live?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That is a really good question. Now, my first Jags
game would definitely be an international game, and I think
it would have been around two thousand and fourteen or
twenty and fifteen, something like that. Let me just have
a quick okay, So the twenty and fourteen game was
against the Dallas Cowboys, and I don't think I went
to that one. You know, when you go look, you know,
(24:27):
when you go to so many different Jaguars games in London,
you forget which years, do you know what I mean? Yeah,
so I think that it was twenty fifteen it was
the Bills Jaguars. I may I may have been to
that one. I definitely was at twenty sixteen Colts Jags
as well, so it's one of those. I think it
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might have been the twenty fifteen one thirty four thirty
one Jags wins win against the Bills. I got into
the NFL in twenty twelve, so it was still like,
you know, because I'm sure that everyone can empathize with this.
When you don't grow up surrounded by American football like
people do in the US. You know, when you do
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get into it, you don't understand everything immediately, do you.
It takes a lot while. So at that point, you know,
that was my It was still grasping onto every single
rule and you know, and all of that. What about yours?
Speaker 5 (25:27):
So the first game I went to, annoyingly actually was
not until in the twenty twenty one. I'd been promised
a ticket from my dad for the twenty twenty games,
but of course they all called off for COVID. So
the first game I actually saw was the twenty twenty
one Jags versus the Dolphins, and my dad is the
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Dolphins fan, so it was pretty interesting obviously to go
and see that together. That was really quite cool. And
we've been every year since to every Jags game, So we.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Need to need to remember what happened in twenty twenty one.
The Jags one a walk off field goal if I'm correct, the.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Last few seconds it was Oh it was. And again
for my first game, it was just unbelievable. So how
did dad react In the nicest way? I think because
again sort of our love of American football is certainly
a family affair sort of thing. I think it was
just so special to be a game together. So actually
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neither of us really cared who was going to win.
We were just tough to be there supporting together. So actually,
like you said, I'm just thrilled that you've had that experience. So,
I mean, there's been a couple of losses since I've
experienced both.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Then, if you say it's a family affair your dad
was a Dolphins fan, does that mean that your first
NFL game, as in like watching one on the TV,
would have been you know, before that growing up.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
So the irony is is that I actually don't remember
my very first game because growing up, before I was
even born, both my dad and my uncle played for
local American football teams, so I have been literally born
into it. So I don't remember my first NFL game
because I don't remember a time where it wasn't on.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I always my husband hates it because I call football soccer,
and he hoped it because for me, I've grown up
with American football. My childhood, I was on the sidelines
watching my dad and uncle play for our local team
that now my son plays flag for.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So it's do you give a shout out to that team?
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yes, it's the the Exiles.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Les Exiles. Yes, okay, so.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
My dad and my uncle actually played with Neil Reynolds
when he was playing two. It's so cool. I mean,
when we see him at events, it's so great to
give him a give him away and everything. So so yeah,
I don't remember a time before before the American football.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Actually there was no time before American football in your life.
That's kind of amazing. So actually yours is a bit
interesting really because you know, I moment ago I said
that you a UK NFL fan, you know, doesn't tend
to grow up, you know, in following the NFL or
watching American football, because it's it's not quite the same
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as obviously soccer, as you say, which you know permeates
every part of you know, society. So you're the You're
the difference the difference here, aren't you. Really? That's that's
kind of interesting because for me and I went on
a year abroad to the US when in twenty twelve,
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and I basically lived with people that played for the
university that I was at, played for the college, so
I didn't really have So it's a bit like you,
but slightly different. You didn't have a choice. I didn't
have a choice. It was always on Telly, always on Telly.
I went to go watch them play, obviously because you know,
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I'm a supportive roommate. And then subsequently, you know, you're
getting to the NFL as well, So we both basically
didn't have a choice to get into the NFL but
fell in love with it. It's quite like that in
a way. I quite like that. It's quite funny.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
It's cool, as I say, I just don't remember a
time before it. And interestingly, we all sort of all
of my family we also also port somebody different, so
it's wild when it comes to game days, we're all
supporting somebody else. My dad, as I say, he is
a Dolphins fan. I'm a Jags. My my husband was
introduced to the game through us. He's a Steelers fan.
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My uncle's a Bears fan, my aunt's a Pathas fan.
Cousins a Jets fan, is a Chiefs fan. So it's
always wild in this house.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Do you have any other Jags fans in the So.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
My my son, he's a Jags fan, and he I
mean again, I sort of didn't give him a choice,
Like you are, you would follow, you will follow with me.
But he loves game days. As I say, his aim
is always to be head to toe jagged to the max.
So that's that's always his his memo. And he's already
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saying about the Pathway program, he'd love to look at. Wow,
he's old enough. And as I say, he plays flag
for the Kent Exiles now, so yeah, and here at
the end of the season he got MVP Offensive Player
of the Year, so he's thrill.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Wow, congratulations to him, that's massive, that's massive. Congratulations to him.
Why did you choose the Jags then?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
So it's I say, a funny story. And we'd gone
to on a family holiday to Florida in nineteen ninety
seven and we were shopping around in the malls and
my dad said, I really want some merch and the
first thing I saw was a Jags jumper and I
was like, I love this. So my dad, as I say,
as a Dolphins fan, was like, oh, I don't really
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want that. I don't know, it's so cool. So he
bought the jumper, which ironically now belongs to me. I
still have. So from then he was like, well, you've
just picked your team and from them, you know, I
haven't looked back. That is literally the reason that I'm
a tax fan.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
That's amazing. And you do hear stories like that though,
because people like are into, you know, certain bits and
bobs of merch and they subsequently become their team. And
I've got to say that late nineties Jaguars stuff, I
love it. Yeah, it's particularly good. That's obviously what you know.
That's why the throwbacks are so loved as well.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
And the throwbacks were released. I'm in commitment to the
sport for sure. I was on holiday in Turkey, and
I was like, I am not leaving this room. I
am not leaving my room until I have bought this shirt.
Literally the day they dropped, I was right in there too, ordered.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Okay, don't blame you whatsoever. I've got two more questions
for you. Okay, So first of all, I want your
opinion on the season, please.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I mean, sadly obviously not our best. It is such
a shame in the you know, the previous couple of years,
how well we've done and how far we've come, you know,
in the last few years. I mean, this one has
been such a so frustrating more than anything, I mean,
I'm sure for the players just as much as the fans.
Just sad we've been sort of plagged by injuries. I mean,
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I just hope that everyone obviously gets well enough and
that next season we have a much better one and
we get back to the playoffs and start shining again.
Because again, as I said, the last couple of years
have been really quite but again for a Jacks fan
who hasn't seen them very much, it's really nice to
see them really really come up a lot. So I
hope that next season it can continue.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Absolutely absolutely my last question for you, Carly, and this
is an important one, okay, because we do a standings
of predictions here until Talk, myself, Key and the guest
or you know, the fan every week. So it is
the battle of the two win team and the three
win team this weekend, the Las Vegas Raiders versus the
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Jacksonville Jaguars. I would like to know your score prediction. Please.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I would love us to wipe the floor with them,
but I don't know if we will. So maybe a
twenty three twenty but to us.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Twenty three twenty one James versus the Raiders. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I want it to be a good scoring one, not
a low scoring hopefully. So yeah, hopefully to us.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
All right, thank you so much, Carly, that was a
good prediction. Thank you so much for joining TiAl Talk today.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
No, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Thank you very much to Carli for the big question.
At Key, you couldn't be around for that conversation, but
that doesn't mean you're getting away with it. I'm still
going to ask you those questions. We'll start with the
first NFL game that you ever watched, like on Telly
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Oh on Telly, Oh, I can't do it. I can't
remember that it was. It was in two thousand and one,
I'll tell you that much. And it would have been
back when it was on either Channel four or Channel five,
and it was like it was the Mark and Mike Show,
whatever it was called, and I would have stayed up
super late to watch something. I can tell you about.
The first game I ever saw.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Live, Yes, do that next.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Okay, that was in two thousand and seven. It was
Monday Night Football at Paul Brown Stadium, and I saw
the Bengals absolutely destroy the Baltimore Ravens. It was absolutely fantastic.
All of my family are from Cincinnati, so they're all
Bengals fans. That was really cool. And then the first
Jags game I ever saw live was the first one
over here against the forty nine ers. If we don't
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talk about that because nothing of interest happened, move on, Jay.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Do we not want to talk about that game?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Then?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Are we just not talking about that San Francisco?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
It's not even written down in the history books.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Okay, alright, we'll just move on and we'll move on
to the Raiders game, which is, of course the next
game that the Jacksonville Jaguars headed West for the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I don't like that, Jay. I don't like saying the
Jaguars are heading west more often than because more often
than headed west, they struggle out on the West coast.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
You know where they're going to Las Vegas regard they're
going somewhere. They're going to the desert. A battle of
the two and twelve team and a three and eleven team,
two teams that you know haven't necessarily had the season
that they wanted to have. They have not been great,
of course, and the Las Vegas Raiders with multiple injuries
at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Ye sixteenth quarterback this season, I think, I think so.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I think they've changed them. They've changed their mind. I
think about sixteen times between Aidan O'Connell, a Gardner Minshee
of course. Who I don't think is going to be
playing against his former team likely to be Desmond Ridder,
who used to play with the Falcons. Of course. I
think he was with the Cardinals briefly. Maybe I'm lying,
(35:41):
and now he's with the Las Vegas Raiders. Interesting enough, actually,
there is quite an interesting parallel I think between the
Raiders and the Jaguars in that Brian Thomas Junior, of course,
we speak about him all the time here until talk
about being the highlight, you know, arguably the star of
the Jags offense. Well, in last vegue, they've got somebody
else called Brock Bowers, a rookie tight end who has
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been the highlight of their offense. And it's somebody that
they're going to be looking towards to be the star
for years to come. So two and twelve team versus
a three and eleven team. Max Crosby, of course their
star on the defensive side of things, he's not going
to be playing. This is a game that is ultimately
and I said this against the New York Jets, but
I mean even more against the Raiders, this is an
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extremely winnable game for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Key, it definitely is. I think I think you are
going to get a team that are going to go
out there to win. Like the Jaguars aren't giving up.
They are still playing as hard as they can play,
and I think they will continue to do that. And
I think this Sunday, we said it last week, and
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if it's not for that incredible connection between Aaron Rodgers
and DeVante Adams, there's all the chances of winning that
game last Sunday, and I'm going to say the same
for this Sunday. Very very winnable, and I think they'll
be absolutely going for it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I think it's a.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Difficult travel it's a difficult road game going out west,
and traditionally the Jaggs have struggled with that. So hopefully
that won't be an issue this week and we can
come back with a wh What.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I also want to say is that because Desmond Ridd
has come in, Desmond Ridd has not He's not been
a reliable quarterback for any team that he's played for.
If you've got Josh Heines Allen, if you've got Eric
Aham said, if you've got Trayvon, if you've got these players,
they're able to make him uncomfortable. In my mind, this
is a W. This should be a W. Anyway, even
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though Mac Jones your second quarterback, he's playing Trevor's not.
I still think that this should be a win for
the Jacksonville Jaggers. I'm more confident in this game than
I have any other game this season.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Do you know what, Jay, It's the age old thing.
Like if you look at the Jets game, the offense
managed to do some stuff and it was the defense
that arguably let the side down. It's the age old
thing that we've been saying a lot this season is
if all three phases come together, the Jaguars are a
good team, they can Yeah, they absolutely should be winning
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this game against the Raiders in my view. And like
you say, if the defense can step up in a
way that they didn't last week, maybe then yeah, we
should have it.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And Brock Bowers I think is going to be tough
to go against as well, a lot of targets, a
big frame as well, but they'll know that, they'll know that,
they'll know that he's the main target for the Raiders.
And we'll just mention briefly. We don't have to go
into it, but because this is a two and a
two and a twelve team versus a three and eleven team,
there are ramifications for the draft as well. But we'll
(38:50):
go into that in the offseason.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Key yeah, a jab would say, we can talk about
that in April.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Let's get your prediction.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Okay, I'm going with high scoring affair. I'm going thirty
five thirty three to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Okay, I'm going absolutely not absolutely not I'm going twenty
one ten to the Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
My argument would be, Jay, none of us have been
close to anything, so it's a fair point.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I do have to bring up the standings. Of course,
have you heard the prediction earlier on of course by
Carly R Fan. We get the fan to do a
prediction every week. We do have the standings. Sarah the
fan last week was not convinced of a Jaguars win,
yet predicted them to win anyway, which I'm quite thankful
for because if she had said that the Jaguars were
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going to lose, it would have meant that the fans
and me were on the same level.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Oh is there only one in it at the time.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
There's only one in it, so this is really going
to be coming down to the wire. The current score
is J six the fan pick five, and Key is
on three correct throughout the whole season as well.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Jay, Mathematically, you haven't won because I can still draw
with you. Although if you predict the same as me
this week, then ah, dude, tactically you should just predict
the same as me this week.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I feel like there's a flaw in this game. I'm
okay with it, though it does mean though that I
can still lose the whole thing because the fans, the predictions,
they're only one behind. There's only one behind, so we're
gonna I'm still confident that I'm gonna be able to
win some sort of JAG's memorabilia from you, though, still confident.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah, but like I've said before, Ja, I am in
charge of postage and I have a terrible memory for
posting things.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
That's good to know. I also know where you live,
could just kind of collect it, so there's always that
to be honest with you. Back next week of course
to talk about that inevitable Jags win. Just confident. I'm
just confident this week, Key, have a good week buying
loads of Christmas presents because I've got no doubt you've
forgotten uh where We'll be back next week. Till Talk,
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It's twenty four degrees in Jacksonville. It's a twenty four
degrees in Jacksonville, eleven in Derby, twelve in Inverness. Actually
it's surprisingly mildn't it. This is Till Talk. I'm Jay Lawrence,
no relation, He's Key ram Surer and this is the
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Gallagher Key.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, all right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Do you know what in the summer, when we were
saying it's twenty four degrees in Jacksonville, it was fine,
wasn't it. Now it's horrible?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, horrible. Now I'm reading it and I'm just feeling
ever so more slightly depressed. But hey, Christmas is coming up.
We gotta embrace Christmas. And we also have to embrace
the fact that Eric Armstead is coming up on the
show today, which is very exciting. Our Walter Peyton Man
of the Year Award nominee.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Key, how special is that?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I love to read that. I love to read that
and really nice addition to our defensive line this season. Yeah,
looking forward to hearing from Eric.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I think I'll be absolutely And if you don't know
anything about the water Payton, Man of the year. We
will be speaking about it of course with Eric, but
it recognizes an NFL player for his excellence on and
off the field, the player's commitment to philanthropy. Key, So
you know, it's quite a big thing, and some people
have said some NFL players have said that this is,
(01:26):
you know, the biggest award that they've ever received. So
it really does mean a lot to NFL players, and
he's our nominee going forward. So anyway, we'll talk to
Eric a little bit later on about that. Carly is
on she's going to be giving us the big question
our Fan of the Week from the UK and Ireland.
But first, before we get into it, Key, you have
to talk about another loss for the Jacksonville Jaguars and
(01:49):
fan I know, I know we're getting towards the end
of the season, but this is a different sort of
feeling for me, actually, Key, you know, losing to the
New York Jets. We all said, all of us, me,
you we had Sarah our fan of the Week on
last week, who actually wasn't that sure of a Jags win.
We all basically thought it would be a low scoring game. Yeah,
(02:10):
and it wasn't particularly was it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It wasn't low scoring. It was a high scoring affair.
I really relative like, yeah, oh sure, I mean for
this season for the Jags, it was remarkably high scoring.
Let's say it felt like at one point I was like, yep,
we've really got this, and then blown coverage at the
end of the game. It's just like, uh yeah, I
(02:33):
actually found Sunday a really really frustrating one because I
think we're better than the Jets. Man, we should be
winning that game. That's what I felt, like, What did
you think?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I think it's interesting. It's a really interesting matchup actually,
when you think about it, both teams going into the
season with high expectations. Objectively, you know, an entertaining game,
Jags in it throughout, yet again losing in the last
couple minutes. But you know, what do we have in
that game? In a season where there isn't going to
(03:03):
be a postseason. We have some players, some rookie, some
young players, some big players for the future. They're at
least making themselves known. Yes, of course it was blowing coverage. Yes,
of course there was difficulties defensively as well. But we've
got to say congratulations to Brian Thomas Junior friend of
(03:24):
the show. Brian Thomas Junior yet again making his mark
yet again, proving that he is the best young wide
receiver in the NFL. Rookie wide receiver for sure. Breaking
the franchise record for touchdowns and receiving yards as a
rookie A massive thing. I mean, we spoke about this
(03:45):
last week. A massive thing to think that he is
going to be with the franchise and it's only his
first year, and it's only his first year and he's
had to play many games without Trevor Lawrence. Credit to
Mac Jones to an extent. You know, there were faults
with Mac Jones obviously more interceptions as you mentioned towards
the end of the game, but you saw that even
(04:07):
they had a bit of a relationship. You could see that,
you know, just through the touchdowns and the over one
hundred you're receiving yards of Brian Thomas Jr.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He is a powerful weapon, no denying it, and he
is the future of this franchise. And there's been a
lot of talk this week, people saying that regardless of
the Jacksonville Jaguars, not only will he be a star
at the Jacksonville Jaguars, he's going to be a star
in the NFL all around, because he is an exceptional talent.
(04:36):
Seeing that, and like you say, with Mac Jones as well,
when Trevor's healthy, when those two can get a rhythm going,
I think that's going to be something to behold. So
that is absolutely fantastic. Also really fantastic. Right was last
week's podcast. We're talking to Brian Thomas Junior and we say,
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you know, there's that rookie record within side, and he's going, yeah,
you know, that's sort of on my mind, and then
he goes and does it in the next game. I
absolutely loved that.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And you know he was thinking of us when he
did it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Of course he was Oh Jay, did he not message
you after?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Oh? Never mind?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Moving on.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, I mean we can feel negative about it. It
is another last there are as you say, it was
very frustrating at points, especially right at the tail end
of the game.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But to go to you're absolutely right. A couple of
the first and second year players like really making strides
in their game, really positive stuff. Parker Washington, Cam little
Tank Bigsby is having got much better season than he
did last season. Like I feel like he's earned the
trust of the coaches back because there were a couple
(05:48):
of silly mistakes last season with you know, the ball
being on the ground, not realizing that it was the
end of a play, et cetera, et cetera. So for
him to be doing so much better this season, I
also think there's a lot of positives to take man
disappointing season, yes, but lots of positives.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
What I said earlier on in the season as well,
is that this is the point where it is, you know,
the season is done. Essentially, the season is done. There
isn't going to be a postseason, so you need to
look at what you've got and need to figure out,
you know, which of these players are going to be
staples going forward. And you know you've mentioned a few
then you mentioned cam Litton, obviously, your best mate, Parker,
(06:28):
Brenton Strange as well, He's had you know, good points,
Jarry and Jones as well. I know that he didn't
have a perfect game in the last game, but these
are players that they're either rookies or they're early on
in their careers. And then combined with you know the
likes of Josh Heinzellen, likes of Trevor Lawrence, the people
that you know are going to be here for a
long time. You got to feel, Okay, we do have
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players here. We do have good players here. We just
need to be able to, you know, play like it essentially.
I know that's such an easy thing to say and
is a hard thing to do, but you know, credit
to them anyway, Jags fall to three and eleven, now
have eight losses by seven points or less. We could
easily say, oh, well, you know, if they just won
a few of them, this season will be different. Where
(07:12):
they haven't. Yeah, they haven't.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Source Gardener right at the end of that game, getting
that interception, But I'm going to do one of your
magical segues here. There is a secret sauce that is
currently missing from the Jags because the talent is there
that like all the ingredients are there. Next season some
kind of secret sauce and we turn it around. That's
what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, all right, Well, we'll get into the upcoming game
against the Las Vegas Raiders a little bit later on
as well. We'll be giving our predictions. We'll be seen
seeing where the standings are as well, and how close
I am to winning Some Jags merch that Key owns. Yeah,
and it might be that I am mathematically there. I'm
(07:54):
not sure. Actually, we're going to find out. We'll find out. Okay, first,
so let's hear it from the Jaguar's nominee for the
Walter Payton Man of the Year. It's my conversation with
Eric Hmstead. Eric, thank you so much for joining us.
How are you today?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Good? Appreciate you having me first.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Year in Jacksonville. How have you found it? You know,
I think you know, considering that a little wikipediaing tells
me that is this the first time that you've lived
anywhere not on the West coast?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, this has been the first time.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The look on your face makes me think that that
was the first time that you've realized that this is
that this is the case.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I mean I've been I've been on the west on
the East coast for like a month or so, maybe
two months, but like having a residence in living full
time all year around.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, this's my first time on the East coast.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
How have you found it?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
It's been great, love Florida. My family loves it here.
We've adjusted well. Jacksonville is a great city, great community,
especially to raise a family.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I feel like, and so yeah, we're loving it here
in Florida.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And of course, you know, your time living out in
Jacksonville heavily dictated by what you do for a living
of causing the people that you spend time with. Can
you tell me a little bit about your relationship with
you know, the rest of the day line. I saw
somewhere the traveon in particular has been calling you the
old man of the line.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Has he been? He said, it's a young man's game. Well,
I think he'll learn. He'll learn pretty quickly that you
know what what the game is really truly about. You know,
he picks on me sometimes, but we have a great relationship.
Me and all other d linemen spend real refreshing, you know,
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joining the group and getting to know everybody and you know,
building informed relationships throughout the season. We have a lot
of fun together and you know, real, real close knit groups.
So it's been fun being a part of the guys.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Do you guys go out for dinner regularly or or
anything like that?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, we do dinners sometimes, we do.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
We get together watch film on Fridays at Josh Allen's house.
He hosts us and we have food and we watched
the film and talk about, you know, what we need
to do in the game.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
How would you write him as a host?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He's a great host man, you know, definitely a great host.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Appreciate him opening up his home to us, you know,
to have those to have that time to bond together.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay, let's talk water play and manner of the Yeah,
I mean, can you just tell tell us what it
means to be nominated for something like that?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
This is my fifth nomination, but first time obviously in
New City with the Jags. And you know, I've always
feel a sense of responsibility to give back to my
community and support the people around me. I'm no, you know,
not by any means where I'm at in life because
of solely what I've done. I've been super blessed to
have supportive people and being you know, the right situations
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a lot of times, and you know, healthy environments, and so,
you know, I believe that it takes a village to
raise young people. And so that's what we try to
do with the ARMS Academic Project. And you know, I
hope to represent you know, our organization well for that
sense of responsibility to do that and inspire you know,
other people to give back in ways they find important
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as well too.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I mean, you know, some people I've heard players before
talk about how this is, you know, an honor that
is comparable to be an MVP or you know, Defensive
Player of the Year or even win in the Super Bowl. Really,
you know, recipients of that award for sure.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
You know, the the NFL does a great job really
making the award really meaningful and prestigious, I would say,
and the type of onus and importance that they put.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
On the award that they're a great job.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
You know, meeting the Peyton family and Commissioner Goodell throughout
the years in the NFL being a part of the
events and the experience has been you know, amazing, and
they do a great job of really making it something
that's really powerful and really meaningful.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Can you talk a little bit about what you've been
doing in the Jacksonville community.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, so here in Jacksonville where you know, when I signed,
I wanted to continue do what we have been doing
in other areas and bring that here to Jacksonville, which
is support disadvantaged youth and their education and ensure that
you know, a zip code doesn't define a kid's future.
And so here in Jacksonville, my initial goal was to
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meet with community members and really find out what's needed
here and so and where the areas that we wanted
to have impact. And so we've been doing story times,
which has been great. I've read the kids all over
the world throughout the years. So going into schools teaching
the importance of literacy and showing that kids that is
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fun to read and fun to be smart, really is
that initiative with that, And then we also just had
our Blessings in the Backpack event, which my wife, who
we both run our organization together, really was the brain
behind that, in which, you know, we believe that a
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student can't focus in school if they don't have the
basic necessities that they need, and food scarcity here in
Jacksonville and all over the country really is is an issue.
And so providing kids with the food that they need
and also other resources that they need to be successful
in school and just in life in general. And that's
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one of our kind of social emotional wellness kind of initiatives.
And so we also held a luncheon for local community
members to really learn and understand. So we had another
of organizations come and met with them. The Boys and
Girls Club locally here North Florida, Elevate Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I know I might.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Forget some organizations, but there was a number of organizations
there who are already doing work. And we don't believe
in reinventing the will. We want to partner with people
who have similar missions and core values and even broaden
you know, broad in there, you know, broad in their
platform and and you know, so that's that's what we've
been doing this far in Jacksonville. We're excited to continue
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it going and and you know, build upon that more
and more.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That's amazing man. And you know, congratulations on being the nominee.
Good luck of course, you know, for the for in
a couple of weeks time. Look, first time playing in London?
I think am I right in saying that it was
your first time playing.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
In London the first time this past year? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, How how was it? Considering that you're talking to
someone that you know lives in London, Essentially you've got
to say something good?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I hope.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
No.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I definitely had a great experience. It was it was great.
It's kind of my first international game. It was a
great experience being there in London, having two games, being
able to have experience two different stadiums was great. You know,
I'm a little bit not the hugest but a little
bit of a soccer or football as well too, so
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being being able to play in those stadiums and fill
that kind of energy from the fans there in the
UK was amazing. I love London as a city. It's
definitely my type of vibe.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And do you have a sucker team that you support
it kind of.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
It kind of has changed throughout the years, I would say, definitely,
Like when I I gott into soccer just by playing
FIFA a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, And you know, there was.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
A time where I was using England's national team a
lot on FIFA back in the day when they had
Sterling and I think his name was like Sturridge.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yes, yes, done storage, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Daniel Sturrige obviously had Rooney and so yeah, that was
that was like my team I was using.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So essentially, you're an England fan, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
A little bit. I like Rashford too, yeah, and I
like some other players.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
But yeah, but you're doing You're doing well.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You're doing well.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You're doing. Your knowledge is good, Eric, thank you so
much for joining until talk today. I have a good Christmas.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Thank you appreciating Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That was my conversation with Jaggs Eric Armstead. JAG's not
mainly for the water Paton Man of the Year, of course.
Eric Armstead, all right, let's move on, shall we to
do vile dispatches? Okay, I'm going into this blind. I've
been doing that the last few weeks, haven't we key
when we're reading what's going on in the Jags World
(16:28):
UK and Ireland. But our producer Simon has just absolutely
flooded it with dreadful Christmas puns. So let's see how
this goes.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Like walking through a jungle that has quicksand in it,
let's just get through it.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Jay, Yeah, exactly, a candy cane jungle of quickstand. It's
do vile dispatches with me. Yes, Jingle Jay Lawrence. Jingle
all the Jay Lawrence would have been better. Yeah that's
not even a pun. It's in yeah, jingle all the
Jay Lawrence and him, Chris, Christmas Tree, Ram Suran. I
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like it enough and this one doesn't make sense and
a re reindeer. I think this is meant to say, reminder,
a reminder, a reminder of our twelve days of jagsmus
competition and Jags fans, you'll love this. Please don't miss
(17:26):
ale Tooe the chance to win. We might have done
that one already.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
We've done all of these already, and I certainly shouldn't
have twelve days of Christmas, twelve competitions, twelve amazing prizes
go to Jaguars UK and I E on X, Facebook
and Instagram.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Can we even talk about all these prizes are on offer? Key?
Because these prizes are actually mad.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
There's some amazing ones you should definitely be talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Okay, I want to be really clear on this. Okay,
if you are a fan of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and
I assume that you are, this is like integral you
go over to Jaguar's UK and I on X, Facebook
and Instagram. Because these prizes are crazy. I'm actually slightly
annoyed that I.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Don't even believe can be a real prize. There's no
way this is actually being given away.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I'll pull back the curtain. And I texted back being
like I was annoyed because I was like, I want
to do this anyway, these are the prizes that are
still on offer. We're not going to denigrate these with
some awful Christmas puns from the bottom of Simon's pun barrel.
So this is what we still have to unwrap under
the Christmas tree. So the nineteenth of December, signed Trevor
(18:38):
Lawrence Jersey. That's good, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
That's good, right, fantastic, absolutely fantastic, worth it alone, and
that must be the best.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
One, Jay, absolutely not. The twenty first of December. Two
tickets to the twenty twenty five Wembley Stadium game. Again incredible.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Surely that's the best.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
One, jayly not. This is the crazy one. This is
this is so good. This one a real Christmas treet.
I suppose for one of you twenty third of December,
kissing Me in Florida, a trip over there, two flights,
four nights of accommodation, two spots in the twenty twenty
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five Kissing Me Golf Classic.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I mean, that is such a good prize, so I
have to like contribute seventy five percent of the cost
towards that trip.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It is absolutely not. I mean, this is an incredible prize,
isn't it. And it is all on the Twelve Days
of jagsmus to go over to janku as UK and
I on x Facebook and Instagram because those are some
amazing prizes and all right, it is getting towards Christmas obviously,
but that doesn't mean we're slowing down. With the show
that's on Sky Sports NFL with Rhys Parkinson. What's going
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on this week Key.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
So we have JP and Reese looking at the highlights
of the game, breaking it down for us, talking about
what's remaining for the rest of the season. JP and
Tony are previewing the Raiders game this coming Sunday, and
favorite bit for me is Reese getting a tour of
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the athletic training facilities with the VP of Health, which
is Jeff Ferguson known as Fergie to his mates, who
actually earlier this year won the Memorial Award for I'm
going to get this wrong, but it's something like Outstanding
Athletic Trainer of the Year, so pretty big deal. But honestly,
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Fergie is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet
in your life. And he gives Reese a tour of
the facilities, like tapes him up, puts him in a
hyperbolic chamber it's really good fun. Yeah, it's really good fun.
And like all of their spa pools and stuff like that,
it's really great.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That sounds luxurious.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Oh yeah it is. I actually forgot to direct because
I was too busy enjoying. It's basically a spa day.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You were just having a nice spa time, weren't you.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It is available on sky Sports NFL every Wednesday at
nine pm, and then it is repeated on sky Sports
NFL throughout the week and then all of the bits
will get put up on the Jaguar's UK YouTube channel
after that. But I probably should mention that over Christmas
period we're going to be airing on Thursdays. It is
Wednesday this week, but from Christmas and New Year Week
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it will be on Thursdays instead, So you.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Mean Wednesday, eighteenth of December, and then it will be
on Boxing Day, next episode of Boxing Day, it's a.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Boxing Day, and then January two for the following episodes.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, lovely. So last week Key, we decided we were
going to give away another signed rookie poster. So this
is signed from every single player that was after by
the Jacksonville Jaguars in twenty twenty four. A really pristine poster,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Key.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It's not got any crumples or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
No, it hasn't iqed for twenty four hours to get
it signed by all of the rookies, and then Sarah
from the Jags UK team spent twenty five hours ironing it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's definitely a crumpled poster. But it doesn't matter because you
still got these great players that, of course are with
the Jaguars, like Brian Thomas Junior, like Cam Little, two
of Key's favorite players of all time. They have signed
it at Jarry Jones.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I was just going to add Jarion Jones to that list.
I think he's had such a good season and I
like him man.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
So last week we launched the competition and we said
that you needed to do what Key to win it.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
We said that people needed to comment with the incredibly
creative phrase keep me in the frame on the YouTube's
and on the cast yes, on the podcast the YouTube's
and we had a lot of lovely comments, all of
them the same.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And I have.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Read how you enter the competition because that's how competitions were. Oay,
I have randomly chosen at Leon hds one as the
winner this week, who commented on the YouTube video? So,
Leon hds one, huge congratulations winning our not so crumpled poster.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
But still probably quite crop, still crumpled. Do they get
in touch with us? Do we get in touch with them?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
So, Leon hds one, I will comment on your comment
on the YouTube's telling you how to collect your prize.
Huge congratulations.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
All right, then should we get to it. It's time
for the big a question. All right, it's time for
the big question on til Talk. This is where we
get a Jacksonville Jaguar fan from the UK or Ireland
to give us the big question. This time around, Carl
the answer, what's the big question?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
My big question is when was your first Jags game?
When did you first see them live?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That is a really good question. Now, my first Jags
game would definitely be an international game, and I think
it would have been around two thousand and fourteen or
twenty and fifteen, something like that. Let me just have
a quick okay, So the twenty and fourteen game was
against the Dallas Cowboys, and I don't think I went
to that one. You know, when you go look, you know,
(24:27):
when you go to so many different Jaguars games in London,
you forget which years, do you know what I mean? Yeah,
so I think that it was twenty fifteen it was
the Bills Jaguars. I may I may have been to
that one. I definitely was at twenty sixteen Colts Jags
as well, so it's one of those. I think it
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might have been the twenty fifteen one thirty four thirty
one Jags wins win against the Bills. I got into
the NFL in twenty twelve, so it was still like,
you know, because I'm sure that everyone can empathize with this.
When you don't grow up surrounded by American football like
people do in the US. You know, when you do
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get into it, you don't understand everything immediately, do you.
It takes a lot while. So at that point, you know,
that was my It was still grasping onto every single
rule and you know, and all of that. What about yours?
Speaker 5 (25:27):
So the first game I went to, annoyingly actually was
not until in the twenty twenty one. I'd been promised
a ticket from my dad for the twenty twenty games,
but of course they all called off for COVID. So
the first game I actually saw was the twenty twenty
one Jags versus the Dolphins, and my dad is the
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Dolphins fan, so it was pretty interesting obviously to go
and see that together. That was really quite cool. And
we've been every year since to every Jags game, So we.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Need to need to remember what happened in twenty twenty one.
The Jags one a walk off field goal if I'm correct, the.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Last few seconds it was Oh it was. And again
for my first game, it was just unbelievable. So how
did dad react In the nicest way? I think because
again sort of our love of American football is certainly
a family affair sort of thing. I think it was
just so special to be a game together. So actually
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neither of us really cared who was going to win.
We were just tough to be there supporting together. So actually,
like you said, I'm just thrilled that you've had that experience. So,
I mean, there's been a couple of losses since I've
experienced both.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Then, if you say it's a family affair your dad
was a Dolphins fan, does that mean that your first
NFL game, as in like watching one on the TV,
would have been you know, before that growing up.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
So the irony is is that I actually don't remember
my very first game because growing up, before I was
even born, both my dad and my uncle played for
local American football teams, so I have been literally born
into it. So I don't remember my first NFL game
because I don't remember a time where it wasn't on.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I always my husband hates it because I call football soccer,
and he hoped it because for me, I've grown up
with American football. My childhood, I was on the sidelines
watching my dad and uncle play for our local team
that now my son plays flag for.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So it's do you give a shout out to that team?
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yes, it's the the Exiles.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Les Exiles. Yes, okay, so.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
My dad and my uncle actually played with Neil Reynolds
when he was playing two. It's so cool. I mean,
when we see him at events, it's so great to
give him a give him away and everything. So so yeah,
I don't remember a time before before the American football.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Actually there was no time before American football in your life.
That's kind of amazing. So actually yours is a bit
interesting really because you know, I moment ago I said
that you a UK NFL fan, you know, doesn't tend
to grow up, you know, in following the NFL or
watching American football, because it's it's not quite the same
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as obviously soccer, as you say, which you know permeates
every part of you know, society. So you're the You're
the difference the difference here, aren't you. Really? That's that's
kind of interesting because for me and I went on
a year abroad to the US when in twenty twelve,
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and I basically lived with people that played for the
university that I was at, played for the college, so
I didn't really have So it's a bit like you,
but slightly different. You didn't have a choice. I didn't
have a choice. It was always on Telly, always on Telly.
I went to go watch them play, obviously because you know,
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I'm a supportive roommate. And then subsequently, you know, you're
getting to the NFL as well, So we both basically
didn't have a choice to get into the NFL but
fell in love with it. It's quite like that in
a way. I quite like that. It's quite funny.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
It's cool, as I say, I just don't remember a
time before it. And interestingly, we all sort of all
of my family we also also port somebody different, so
it's wild when it comes to game days, we're all
supporting somebody else. My dad, as I say, he is
a Dolphins fan. I'm a Jags. My my husband was
introduced to the game through us. He's a Steelers fan.
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My uncle's a Bears fan, my aunt's a Pathas fan.
Cousins a Jets fan, is a Chiefs fan. So it's
always wild in this house.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Do you have any other Jags fans in the So.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
My my son, he's a Jags fan, and he I
mean again, I sort of didn't give him a choice,
Like you are, you would follow, you will follow with me.
But he loves game days. As I say, his aim
is always to be head to toe jagged to the max.
So that's that's always his his memo. And he's already
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saying about the Pathway program, he'd love to look at. Wow,
he's old enough. And as I say, he plays flag
for the Kent Exiles now, so yeah, and here at
the end of the season he got MVP Offensive Player
of the Year, so he's thrill.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Wow, congratulations to him, that's massive, that's massive. Congratulations to him.
Why did you choose the Jags then?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
So it's I say, a funny story. And we'd gone
to on a family holiday to Florida in nineteen ninety
seven and we were shopping around in the malls and
my dad said, I really want some merch and the
first thing I saw was a Jags jumper and I
was like, I love this. So my dad, as I say,
as a Dolphins fan, was like, oh, I don't really
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want that. I don't know, it's so cool. So he
bought the jumper, which ironically now belongs to me. I
still have. So from then he was like, well, you've
just picked your team and from them, you know, I
haven't looked back. That is literally the reason that I'm
a tax fan.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
That's amazing. And you do hear stories like that though,
because people like are into, you know, certain bits and
bobs of merch and they subsequently become their team. And
I've got to say that late nineties Jaguars stuff, I
love it. Yeah, it's particularly good. That's obviously what you know.
That's why the throwbacks are so loved as well.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
And the throwbacks were released. I'm in commitment to the
sport for sure. I was on holiday in Turkey, and
I was like, I am not leaving this room. I
am not leaving my room until I have bought this shirt.
Literally the day they dropped, I was right in there too, ordered.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Okay, don't blame you whatsoever. I've got two more questions
for you. Okay, So first of all, I want your
opinion on the season, please.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I mean, sadly obviously not our best. It is such
a shame in the you know, the previous couple of years,
how well we've done and how far we've come, you know,
in the last few years. I mean, this one has
been such a so frustrating more than anything, I mean,
I'm sure for the players just as much as the fans.
Just sad we've been sort of plagged by injuries. I mean,
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I just hope that everyone obviously gets well enough and
that next season we have a much better one and
we get back to the playoffs and start shining again.
Because again, as I said, the last couple of years
have been really quite but again for a Jacks fan
who hasn't seen them very much, it's really nice to
see them really really come up a lot. So I
hope that next season it can continue.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Absolutely absolutely my last question for you, Carly, and this
is an important one, okay, because we do a standings
of predictions here until Talk, myself, Key and the guest
or you know, the fan every week. So it is
the battle of the two win team and the three
win team this weekend, the Las Vegas Raiders versus the
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Jacksonville Jaguars. I would like to know your score prediction. Please.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I would love us to wipe the floor with them,
but I don't know if we will. So maybe a
twenty three twenty but to us.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Twenty three twenty one James versus the Raiders. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I want it to be a good scoring one, not
a low scoring hopefully. So yeah, hopefully to us.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
All right, thank you so much, Carly, that was a
good prediction. Thank you so much for joining TiAl Talk today.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
No, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Thank you very much to Carli for the big question.
At Key, you couldn't be around for that conversation, but
that doesn't mean you're getting away with it. I'm still
going to ask you those questions. We'll start with the
first NFL game that you ever watched, like on Telly
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Oh on Telly, Oh, I can't do it. I can't
remember that it was. It was in two thousand and one,
I'll tell you that much. And it would have been
back when it was on either Channel four or Channel five,
and it was like it was the Mark and Mike Show,
whatever it was called, and I would have stayed up
super late to watch something. I can tell you about.
The first game I ever saw.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Live, Yes, do that next.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Okay, that was in two thousand and seven. It was
Monday Night Football at Paul Brown Stadium, and I saw
the Bengals absolutely destroy the Baltimore Ravens. It was absolutely fantastic.
All of my family are from Cincinnati, so they're all
Bengals fans. That was really cool. And then the first
Jags game I ever saw live was the first one
over here against the forty nine ers. If we don't
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talk about that because nothing of interest happened, move on, Jay.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Do we not want to talk about that game?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Then?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Are we just not talking about that San Francisco?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
It's not even written down in the history books.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Okay, alright, we'll just move on and we'll move on
to the Raiders game, which is, of course the next
game that the Jacksonville Jaguars headed West for the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I don't like that, Jay. I don't like saying the
Jaguars are heading west more often than because more often
than headed west, they struggle out on the West coast.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
You know where they're going to Las Vegas regard they're
going somewhere. They're going to the desert. A battle of
the two and twelve team and a three and eleven team,
two teams that you know haven't necessarily had the season
that they wanted to have. They have not been great,
of course, and the Las Vegas Raiders with multiple injuries
at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Ye sixteenth quarterback this season, I think, I think so.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I think they've changed them. They've changed their mind. I
think about sixteen times between Aidan O'Connell, a Gardner Minshee
of course. Who I don't think is going to be
playing against his former team likely to be Desmond Ridder,
who used to play with the Falcons. Of course. I
think he was with the Cardinals briefly. Maybe I'm lying,
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and now he's with the Las Vegas Raiders. Interesting enough, actually,
there is quite an interesting parallel I think between the
Raiders and the Jaguars in that Brian Thomas Junior, of course,
we speak about him all the time here until talk
about being the highlight, you know, arguably the star of
the Jags offense. Well, in last vegue, they've got somebody
else called Brock Bowers, a rookie tight end who has
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been the highlight of their offense. And it's somebody that
they're going to be looking towards to be the star
for years to come. So two and twelve team versus
a three and eleven team. Max Crosby, of course their
star on the defensive side of things, he's not going
to be playing. This is a game that is ultimately
and I said this against the New York Jets, but
I mean even more against the Raiders, this is an
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extremely winnable game for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Key, it definitely is. I think I think you are
going to get a team that are going to go
out there to win. Like the Jaguars aren't giving up.
They are still playing as hard as they can play,
and I think they will continue to do that. And
I think this Sunday, we said it last week, and
(36:50):
if it's not for that incredible connection between Aaron Rodgers
and DeVante Adams, there's all the chances of winning that
game last Sunday, and I'm going to say the same
for this Sunday. Very very winnable, and I think they'll
be absolutely going for it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I think it's a.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Difficult travel it's a difficult road game going out west,
and traditionally the Jaggs have struggled with that. So hopefully
that won't be an issue this week and we can
come back with a wh What.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I also want to say is that because Desmond Ridd
has come in, Desmond Ridd has not He's not been
a reliable quarterback for any team that he's played for.
If you've got Josh Heines Allen, if you've got Eric
Aham said, if you've got Trayvon, if you've got these players,
they're able to make him uncomfortable. In my mind, this
is a W. This should be a W. Anyway, even
(37:47):
though Mac Jones your second quarterback, he's playing Trevor's not.
I still think that this should be a win for
the Jacksonville Jaggers. I'm more confident in this game than
I have any other game this season.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Do you know what, Jay, It's the age old thing.
Like if you look at the Jets game, the offense
managed to do some stuff and it was the defense
that arguably let the side down. It's the age old
thing that we've been saying a lot this season is
if all three phases come together, the Jaguars are a
good team, they can Yeah, they absolutely should be winning
(38:21):
this game against the Raiders in my view. And like
you say, if the defense can step up in a
way that they didn't last week, maybe then yeah, we
should have it.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And Brock Bowers I think is going to be tough
to go against as well, a lot of targets, a
big frame as well, but they'll know that, they'll know that,
they'll know that he's the main target for the Raiders.
And we'll just mention briefly. We don't have to go
into it, but because this is a two and a
two and a twelve team versus a three and eleven team,
there are ramifications for the draft as well. But we'll
(38:50):
go into that in the offseason.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Key yeah, a jab would say, we can talk about
that in April.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Let's get your prediction.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Okay, I'm going with high scoring affair. I'm going thirty
five thirty three to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Okay, I'm going absolutely not absolutely not I'm going twenty
one ten to the Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
My argument would be, Jay, none of us have been
close to anything, so it's a fair point.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I do have to bring up the standings. Of course,
have you heard the prediction earlier on of course by
Carly R Fan. We get the fan to do a
prediction every week. We do have the standings. Sarah the
fan last week was not convinced of a Jaguars win,
yet predicted them to win anyway, which I'm quite thankful
for because if she had said that the Jaguars were
(39:43):
going to lose, it would have meant that the fans
and me were on the same level.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Oh is there only one in it at the time.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
There's only one in it, so this is really going
to be coming down to the wire. The current score
is J six the fan pick five, and Key is
on three correct throughout the whole season as well.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Jay, Mathematically, you haven't won because I can still draw
with you. Although if you predict the same as me
this week, then ah, dude, tactically you should just predict
the same as me this week.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I feel like there's a flaw in this game. I'm
okay with it, though it does mean though that I
can still lose the whole thing because the fans, the predictions,
they're only one behind. There's only one behind, so we're
gonna I'm still confident that I'm gonna be able to
win some sort of JAG's memorabilia from you, though, still confident.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah, but like I've said before, Ja, I am in
charge of postage and I have a terrible memory for
posting things.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
That's good to know. I also know where you live,
could just kind of collect it, so there's always that
to be honest with you. Back next week of course
to talk about that inevitable Jags win. Just confident. I'm
just confident this week, Key, have a good week buying
loads of Christmas presents because I've got no doubt you've
forgotten uh where We'll be back next week. Till Talk,
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