Dr. Julianne Malveaux, Phil Smith, Zaki Baruti & Kwabena Rasuli

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And Grand Rising family, and thanks for starting your Tuesday
with us. Later, economist that doctor Julian Malvaux will shed
light on how the government shut down is disproportionately impacting
the black community. Doctor Malvaux will also preview some of
the key races in next week's elections. But before Dr Malvaux,
Phil Smith from the National African American Gun Association will

(00:20):
explain why there's been a surge in membership. Before Phil,
the President General of the Universal African People's Organization, Brother
Zaki Broody, will introduce us to two Cuban freedom fighters.
But to get a starting moment, Chary, we'll bring in
activists that equibeing or solud will join us. But as
Kevin opened the classroom doors on this Tuesday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Grand Rising, indeed, my friend Carl Nelson, how are you feeling?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm still learning, Kevin precisely.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
And that's an ongoing theme because every day there's something new.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's that's right, but you've got to be open to
receive it.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Or just decided not to stay up late at night
trying to watch a football game. How about that one?
That's my latest in the morning, Come man, tell me
about it, you know, I mean, I thought I had
it down to a routine, you know, how to get
up early and bright and early. I'm talking you know,
so early. People will say, what you get up win?

(01:22):
It's just after watching the game, and I didn't even
see enough of it to assess everything that happened. However,
you know, I watched the interception, the counter interception, and
the other interception. I watched those which those were exciting moments.
But according to the commander's website, the bad news is

(01:47):
Terry McLaurin is on the injured list again.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
An he thought, folks, if you didn't like us, didn't
watch the game. The final score was twenty eight seven.
Of course, Oh yeah, I wanted to mentioned that. By
the way, Yes, yes, let me ask you this, Kevin.
Had it been the other way around, it would have
been worth it. Would you feel better if they yes?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
You know, okay, I'm one of those kind of fans,
you know, I'm with them when they win, and it's
and it's a shame that it affects you, you know
a little bit when they lose, you know, especially after
you've invested the time. Again, I could have finished reading
that book. I'm trying to. Yeah, you see, you know,

(02:30):
but what I do is I read and watch. We
read a little bit, watch a little bit of TV.
You know, read and listen and then go what did
I miss? You know that kind of thing. You seem
so So that's the update. Yeah, thank you for the score.
You you you are brave man. You mentioned it. I
didn't feel it hurts. I know, I guess. I guess

(02:51):
folks in the district it hurts too to hear the score.
But they'll probably get better when they play the Seahawks
the next game.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, it's only the eighth of the season. You know,
there's still some time for a comeback if the team
gets healthy and all of the players are healthy at
the same time, like apparently the Kansas City Chiefs were.
All of their injured players are back. I don't know
if all of them, but you know, that guy Mahomes

(03:20):
was firing on all cylinders apparently except the ones when
he got intercepted. But otherwise, Yeah, it was amazing. It
was amazing watching them play. You know, I just like
watching that kind of professionalism. Meanwhile, shut down freezes earlier
job cut in battles as Trump signals for fresh layoffs.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
So you know, I'm glad you mentioned that because somebody
asked me yesterday if the ICE people are getting paid
or are they doing it for free? Since there's all
government officials are not getting paid except the elected officials
that inclusive president in Congress. Do you know if ICE
is getting paid?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Know?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's a very good question because what is ICE? Are
they military? Are they private? You know what?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's another question too. Let me pull up our somebody
can answer. What about listeners that we you know, we've
got some smart listeners out there, Kevin. Maybe they'll they'll
tell us whether they quasi government officials or private militia.
You know, some people are saying it's a private militia
that he's building, and they're gonna be they're going to

(04:29):
be engaged in quite some time, even after they've completed
their mission, if they ever can complete the mission.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Right.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, but we don't know. The Trump administration is staging
a shakeup and ICE with plans to reassign senior leaders.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
And because they're not meeting that, they're objectives, they've they've
got they've got a quota they have to meet, and
they have a hard time reaching that quota, so that
they just transfer or not firing or removing people because
they feel they see they failed.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well yeah, I mean, you know, it's an interesting job anyway,
you know, because they just got over wearing masks as
they go out.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And do the job, right, Yeah, some of them still
doing some places. I mean there's pushbacks in California, Illinois,
the marriage in the cities in those states are pushed
back on that, so they have to take the mask
up or other places. I'm not quite sure if they're
doing that.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh And while the administration has made anyone in the
US illegally that's encountered by federal official subject to arrest,
Ice says its operations have continued to primarily target immigrants
who have committed crimes in addition to being in the
country unlawfully. And so I guess that's what slows them down.

(05:50):
They're looking for someone who jay walked across the street
something and then well, you.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Know, originally they told they're going to take out the criminal,
the rapist, the terrorists and that, but some people who've
been living to overstate their visions for you know, for
and just walking across the street and they look Spanish,
look Latino. They're picking them up and checking them for
their credentials. And many folks don't walk around with your
with your birth Certificatina or your passport. So that's that's

(06:20):
the problem. Right there, there's some bad embrace. They're jaywalking
across the street right in front of.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Our children looking on the news. The President says he
has no plans to name the White House after himself.
How many people believe that?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Let's see that hand, show them the White House Ballroom.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
At the White House Ballroom right right? Uh, yeah, I'm
in the White House Ballroom right he had there's no
plans to name the ballroom after himself, he says, is
to name his three hundred million dollars White House Ballroom.
He's speaking to the As he was speaking to reporters,
he didn't an earlier report that he was likely to

(07:03):
add his name. He says, I don't have any plan
to call it after myself. That was fake news. Probably
gonna call it the Presidential Ballroom or something like that.
We haven't really thought about a name yet. See that
means he could wake up once it's finished and go, hey,
I dubbed the Donald Trump. Yeah. The White House claims

(07:23):
They released a full list of donors to the project,
and on that list ABC News, the ballroom is referred
to as the President Donald J. Trump Ballroom, So okay,
was that just a working a working name. The entire
east wing of the White House was demolished to make
way for the ninety thousand square footballroom, and that was

(07:47):
in photos as of last Thursday. So three hundred and
fifty million dollars. They're gonna have a real ball especially
imagine at the grand opening.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Right, I hope you get I hope you got an invite?
Kevin me too, what well you said, would you would
you go? Would you go if you're invited? Yeah, because
look at the.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Fall the fallout when when the Snoop Dogg took his gig,
when he took the gig, you know, and look at
the fallout from that. But since I'm a little known person,
and they'll just say, and there was our singer there
thanks to the singer, you see, Uh, finally, mundame me

(08:33):
is the It looks like he might win in New York.
And I wanted to ask you what is democratic socialism anyway?
Or are we going to wait till we get one
of the experts later this week.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, yeah, we'll get because coming up later we're going
to have a doctor Julian Malva, and we'll ask you
about that because all about economics. You know what he's socialism.
But some people try to say that socialism is communism.
It's not. It's just that they're democrat that they say
they're democrats, but they believe in certain things. They believe
in certain things what people will call socialism, Like people

(09:10):
think that food stamp is socialism, you know. People some
people think healthcare is socialism, you know. But some people
say that, well, you know, educational education, right, and then
you juxtapose that with corporate welfare, all the breaks of
the corporate people get, you know, the tax breaks and
all of that. So it's how you define it. But

(09:30):
I'll leave that up to dtor doctor Julian Malveau, and
she joins us later.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, since that'll be a conversation between you and her,
you know, A and B. I'm gonna see what it
says here the Democratic Socialists of America website Real quick.
It says capitalism is a system designed by the owning
class to exploit the rest of us for their own profit.
We must replace it with democratic socialism, a system where

(09:55):
ordinary people have a real voice in our workplaces, neighborhoods,
and society. And I thought that that's what the whole
American ideology is in the first place.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, see, most people are not going to look it
up like you and trying to get a definition. They
just hear the word and they just focus on the
word social sipt. It's like the system of white supremacy.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
If there are most folks when they hear that black people,
they don't understand it because they focus on supreme and
white instead of a keyword. Is the system?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm full disclosure. I'm one of
those kind of people that I just like looking up
stuff and I love reading, and I love looking up stuff.
I like to know what I'm talking about or what
you know. The other person just said, you know, just
confirm it, you see what I mean, because too many
things become watered down, you know, after a while, you know, see,

(10:49):
so so sometimes you just want to get get clarity
on things. That's what I recommend. And I've been accused
of being a quote unquote book worm. See, but look
up the definition of that. Okay. Anyway, thanks for your time,
caud It's right, one more.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
One more issue. We got it, you know, right now.
And this appear with the major news story around the world.
Probably it's Hurricane Melissa's beginning made its Turney's now heading
to Jamaica on the steps of Jamaica. Is gonna slice
through Jamaica. It's slow moving hurricane a Cat five that's
the strongest you can get. And then after that it's
going to go through Cuba, uh and then probably go

(11:27):
through some of the Bahamas and on the way into
the Atlantic Ocean over to Bermuda. So all those folks
are a lot of our brothers and sisters resided. Keep
them in your thoughts and prayers as a Hurricane Melissy,
because they'll be before we get out there. They'll be
banding down, they'll be bearing down on Jamaica, and it's
gonna cut through that island. So we just just keep

(11:49):
those folks in our thoughts.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Thanks Kevin, Oh right, thank you, co And here is
our guests, Corbina.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Brother, Corbina grand Rising, Welcome back to the program.

Speaker 7 (12:00):
Hey, good to be here, Grand Rising to YouTube, brothers
and the people.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Man.

Speaker 7 (12:05):
You know, when you you and Kevin were talking about
the football game. Last night. I was watching the baseball
game the world serious, like, okay, it's going to be
over in a minta gets some rest. You know. That
game lasted eighteen innings. Eighteen innings and Freddy Frank Freeman

(12:26):
hit the home runner, you know, to to finish the
game or walk off. It was I think, like one
of the longest games ever last night.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well, who's your team? Which one? Were you glad to
stay up that.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
League for I was born in La so I was
going with the Dodgers of course.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Oh yeah, I knew he was a Dodger fan. That
is a happiness morning clip.

Speaker 7 (12:54):
Yeah, it's a lot man. You know, when you when
you think about America's pastime. I thought about in Madame
Jamil l I, me and H. R. Brown in a
statement when he said America is filing as cherry pye.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
You know, yeah, And I'm glad you said that because
you know, some people think he said apple pie, but
you correct, it was cherry pie. Some people even challenged
me on that, and I said, go look it up.
You know I never heard from Obviously they looked it up.
Because some people think it's apple pie. It was cherry pie.
This is correct, and I was.

Speaker 7 (13:25):
One of them, so I kept.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I kept.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
Then I started reading. Oh wait, he said cherry pye
and I was okay, he said cherry pie again. So yeah,
and you know, it's amazing that our brother, you know,
still with us, uh, you know, struggling right now. You know,
there's evidence in that case. I read a story I
can't kevin something. I read the guy's story who confessed
to shooting those policemen in Atlanta. He confessed to do

(13:49):
with it. And it's still we still got in LA
man still locked up in prison, so he needs to
be free, and he's struggling.

Speaker 8 (13:56):
Man.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
But it's uh, you know, along with our our good brother.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, because I've spoken to his son. His son has
talked about that. His son is an attorney, by the way.
Uh yeah, so yeah, and it is. I guess I
won't say they've used to it now because it's been
it's been some long these decades, but you because you
never get really get used to it, you know. But
they've figured out a way how to cope with what's

(14:22):
going on. And now it's it's as you mentioned, it's
got some health challenges. And that's another problem, uh for
the former h rab Brown Jamal l. I mean.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
Yes, you know, and and I'm you know, figuring right
along with you with your show and your guests and
your people. Now I saw their was brother at Pinkney's
birthday yesterday, and I see Saint Gore's birthday is today, and.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
All right, shout out to brother Sant Gore and and
Reverend Pinkney as well and Ben Harvey, the two of
our actor his brothers.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Okay, yeah, two my comrades, brother butther uh Saint Gore
worked together with moving a leadership circle. And also brother Pinton.
You know he's right down the street from us in
Benton Harbor, right down the street from us in Geary
in the Chicago area.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
So you two, Yeah, those are two fierce brothers, the
two uncompromising brothers when it comes to blackness. So yeah,
happy happy belated Earth Day to both of them.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
And then you got my comrade brother Zaki coming up
in a little bit, and also sister Malvo. And my
first trip to Africa, I was with the summit was
of the Leon Sullivant and we were going to Zania,
South Africa and with the Zimbabwe also and so we
sat I was in the plane right with her and

(15:42):
Dick Gregory, Me and Dick greg So I was like, wow,
that was my first trip to the Mama Land and
got a chance.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Hey, hey, one day you got to share because I
know that must have been a conversation between Craig, doctor Malvaux,
and yourself on that long plane ride.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
You know, I was just listening mostly, but yeah, you
know it was crazy.

Speaker 9 (16:03):
As a matter of fact.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
When I was I will say this was real quick
because I was reading Malcolm X Speaks. I had that
book with me, and then as we were riding, I
wait a minute here he was talking about Dick Gregor.
They were in the ballroom together and Dick Gregor was
speaking and I say, brother Gregory, look a look what
I'm reading right now. Just your name just came up.
So he was like, man, I remember telling Malcolm you

(16:25):
need to get out of here, you need to go
go somewhere. But he's trying to something about me. Tried
to warn Malcolm, you know, to get out of die right.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Who's I thought, right there, brother Creby. And we got
to take a short break here and we come back.
I need to finish your thought. Now let's talk about
what the problems happening on our HBCU campuses this weekend
at the homecoming festivities. Family, you want to join our conversation.
Brother could be in there to reach out to us
at eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy
sixth and we take you phone calls next and Grand
Rising Family, thanks for waking up with us on this

(16:53):
Tuesday morning. I guess his brother Coreben is an activist
and before the breaker was telling us about his plane ride.
We're going to South Africa with with Dick Gregory and
also with doctor malt Voe and the conversation they're having
on the plane. So I'll let you finish up that.
And that's a Mark in Baltimore already has a question
for you, brother Colbina.

Speaker 7 (17:15):
Yeah, you know just that again my very first trip
home to the Mama Land and just to be with them,
you know, during that summer. It was so many people
on that trip. Of course, Reverend Jackson was with us.
It was just a bunch of us. Are almost Dorothy
Height was on there with us. So many, so many

(17:36):
good people. And I also remember meeting Kathy slid not Kathy,
I'm sorry, Joony slidge On that trip and I'm looking
up sa wait a minute, you have Jonie Slids you know,
of course I'm Tony Sledge. We had a really good
rap uh one of our beautiful sisters from Sister Sledge,
and just an amazing trip again going to South Africa.

(17:57):
Nelson Mandela of course was with us, and then going
over to them by they had a there was a
demonstration out there and like, wow, what are they demonstrating for?
And that's when they first started demonstrating. Well, first time
we saw but one of the early demonstrations for land
reform when they were trying to get their land back
and had been told a while back they were going
to get it back, but then England kept renigging on

(18:19):
the agreement they pay them the money they needed, and
so a couple of years later we saw all the
things that happened with the land reform and kicking those
people off the farm land and our African brothers and
sisters and Boba getting their land back since they defeated
Ian Smith back in the day. So they were just
just eye opening and a great trip to be on

(18:42):
with so many people, so many good people.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
That's interesting and fast forward to today they still some
of those Africans are still complaining, and Donald Trump has
giving them a green light to come into the country,
especially the white farmers who claim they're being victimized by
the black leaders in South Africa. So many of them
are coming here now, and you know, interesting juxtaposed to
them coming in getting money in free Land and there

(19:06):
a whole bunch of other folks have been here for
decades and they're rounding them up and sending them even
to places they've never even been, let alone come from.
So yeah, interesting story. Thank you for sharing that with us,
brother Quibina.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
Right on, man, right on, And I know we wanted
we got to talk about what's going on that a
lot of people aren't talking about. Like I said, it
was up pretty earlier late watching that game. But also
I was doing a little more research on what's going on,
and I saw an article and the route talking about
what's happening at the HBCUs with all these recent shootings.

(19:42):
So I read through the article and read through it
like I did so many things when we talk about violence,
and one of the things we always leave out is
the music. The music is telling our children and our
you to hate yourself, to hate your people and to
take each other's life. So these HBCUs and other events

(20:03):
that we have, the homecoming events they've been we have
to stay alert because they've been extra violent lately. Just
just in October, there was nine people in one weekend,
on the weekend of the ninth and the twelfth in
Mississippi that got shot and killed, that died in homecoming
events from high school to college homecoming events. Our corn

(20:24):
State a woman died and two other people were injured
as a shooting. A child was shot at the Jackson
State homecoming. And you know why we concerned. I mean,
I finished school at Southern University in Baton Rouge, so
I was at homecoming. Not there before that, I went
to University of Louisiana and Lafayette, Louisiana, and which was
a PWI, a predominantly white institution. And even there there

(20:48):
was a shooting there several years ago. So when we
have to when we go, we have to stay alert,
and we have to understand that when we're going to
these places to celebrate each other, to see our friends,
we gotta we shouldn't have to live like this. There
was this again, there was a shooting at Southern University.
We had a shooting at our last month at the

(21:09):
Tuskegee and Morehouse game in Montgomery, Alabama, and it just
this is just keeps going on and on, and it
keeps happening. A couple of years in Southern University, I
think there was like eleven people shot, and they said, well,
it didn't happen on campus. What happened at the Kappa House,
which is like it's like you step right across the right,

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across the yard, or you take one step before you
go over the hump. The Kappa House is there at
Southern University in back Rouge. So before that particular shooting,
there was a concert and at that concert was Freedo Bang,
Nardo Wick and the City Girls. All this that probably

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most of our listeners have never even heard of. I
would ask people, if you get a chance to look up,
I think who Wants Smoke? Or I think it's called
Who Wants Smoke by Nardo Wick. If Nardo Wick is
little Dirk who's locked up in prison right now. Not
in prison, he's in jail. He's going to be going

(22:12):
to trial soon. It's twenty one Savage and it's also
a rapper named Ge herbal or a little least called
Little Herbs g Herbert and the video at the last
time I check, had forty million views. Forty million. It
is a well put together video about massacring and shooting

(22:33):
and killing ends, that's what it is. And so many
people watching them. Again, a lot of us are dos
have never even heard of this dude. So Southern University
brings these people to a concert for homecoming. So right
after the concert, right across the street from the center,
there's a shooting where eleven people get shot. And with

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these what our people were doing, they're following the instructions
given to them in this music. That's all we're doing,
is simply doing the same thing happens.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I'm jumping here for a second, brother Corberan, now, because
you know the sad part about it, because it's just
like numbers. You're just rolling off these numbers. And I know,
but there's people, there's families behind each one of those victims.
But we've become so I guess, inoculating to the violence now,
the slaughter of our people. It's just just numbers eleven, twelve,
four five, you know, and the people, the victims, their

(23:28):
families are outraged they've lost the loved one and they
have to deal with it. Well, for us, it's just numbers.
We become impervious to what's going on. How do we
get people to sympathize with what's going on, because I
think if people could identify with the loss of life,
they would think differently about how it all started. This
is what you're going to share with us. Why these
shootings are taking place on our campuses.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
It's been normalized now, and it's so sad. I mean,
when we're touched personally by it, of course it's a struggle. Meant,
I think I understand that at Lincoln University yesterday school
was out and they were doing counseling and all that,
no classes, But it's been normalized. It's just like I said,
Southern a couple of years ago, it was eleven and
it was had one shot the other day. You know,

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there was listening to these reports about what happened at Howard.
I mean I was there last year in DC for
homecoming weekend, and some of the people who were with
us for the Newbold Leadership Circle summit last year had
came in to leave and go to the Howard homecoming.
People who graduated from there who just wanted to go
hang out. And that's what a lot of people do.

(24:35):
Because the one student they said who was shot, one
of the students who was shot at Howard was not
a Howard University student, they said. I think they said
he came from Boolie State. And I was going to
give the example. And this may be some more numbers,
but this is like how pervasive this is. I think
I don't think it was last year, maybe even before
last there was a shooting at the homecoming week at

(24:57):
Morgan State, and so what they had to do was
they canceled the rest of the homecoming fixtivities to cancel
the concert. And I believe the concert there, I know
that was. I think Glorilla was performing and again Glo Gorilla.
When people call us, we used to call us gorillas,
we'd be offended. But this sister gets the name for
herself out of Memphis. Gloria is her name, and they

(25:21):
make it Goloilla, and she's one of the hottest female rappers.
It's been out for the last several years. So so
this concert at Morgan State or homecoming facilities, they were canceled.
Buoye States invites them well, come on over to our
our you know, celebrate with us. Well, I think she's
supposed to be performing there too, and there was a
shooting there also for their homecoming marked with a shooting.

(25:44):
So again, these these rap artists that are being promoted
by this music industry, this is what they tell us
to do. Ninety percent of the songs they played drop
in bombs about ninety percent. Further, our women focus bes
and h's and it's close to the saying that brags

(26:05):
about and encourages us to shoot and kill each other
in this music. Our music used to love us, they said. Oh,
I think one of the things the people from the
Zulu nation used to say, a chrs One wust say
it would be about peace, love, unity and having fun.
Now it's about war, hate, individualism and despair and despair,

(26:31):
and that's what you talk about what people are going
through with these families are going through when we just
shoot out to spit out these numbers. But it's been
so many for the car and again, what it's putting
the fuel on these fraticidal fires that are taking place
right now is this ignorant killed black people music. The
lyrics in this music, it's just unbelievable. It's unbelievable that

(26:53):
it's been allowed to happen, and it's unbelievable at times
that we have not organized properly and put a stop
to it.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Right thirty minutes, that's the brother Coubina and I all
got some folks want to talk to you. So let's
stake some calls because you stated the case, and let's
go to line too. Marks in Baltimore City has a
question for your Grand Rise and Market on my brother Cubina.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yes, good morning, Jimmy. This is a really I have
to admit to you. This is the first time I've
heard an extensive shock on this whole campus shootings and
the like. It does one to know where's the administration,
where's the community, where's the campus ministries? You know the
chaplains on these campuses. Well what do they say? Are
they trying to get involved in this to you know,

(27:40):
helping the families out, helping the young people out, students
and alumni and community members. I haven't heard too much.
You keep talking about the shootings, Well what is the
administration or campus ministry is doing to help quill some
of these problems and all that? It's more than just
a music issue and all that. It seems to attack
the family and the community in the foundation of what

(28:03):
university stands for. So what's happening with that? Thank you.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
That's a good question. Thanks mar So brother quick being
it because obviously when they're homecomings, they know that this
may happen. And I think what Mark is alluding to
is the fact that did the campus security, the campus administration,
did they put any provisions in place knowing that this
may happen.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
No, No, their heads are insane. I think there's one
administrator of a couple of years ago we heard I
think it may have been Hampton University they said, we're
not having none of this. Can't if you they monitor
what they're bringing to their concerts and they look at
the lyrics and say, Nope, not coming. The rest of
them got their head understand, it's ridiculous. All they have

(28:47):
to do is just listen to the lyrics of these artists.
And because.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
But again that the administrators that are probably older cats
like like we are now, were on familiar with some
of these young artists. So she usually the people on
campus who pick the artists to show up and provide
that kind of information that negative information on the stage
leads to what you're talking about, the violence. So shouldn't
they vet these artists or just like any other person

(29:16):
that's coming on campus should be vetted thoroughly. Isn't there
some you know, something that they should be doing when
if they're bringing the artists or even a speaker, they
should be totally vetted before they're allowed to on campus.
Your thoughts, Yes.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
Yes, because we have this uptick in Fraschisado, this horizontal
violence going on in the black community. They should be vetted.
People should do. They should do just as the administration
at Hampton University did and said, no, you're wrapping, calling
us in, you're rapping, telling us to take each other's
life and disrespecting our women. No, you're not coming. Yeah,
but we love NBA young boy, but we okay, great,

(29:50):
but we're not gonna We're not gonna sanction it here
on this campus. The music and not only does it
promote violence, it dumbs us down. It dumbs us down.
So I mean there it is. So yeah, the brother
is correct that we have to have a movement or
more touring against bringing those ratchet kill black people artists.
As pushed by this evil grown audio pedophile maybe European

(30:15):
pedophile record executives, and who pushed that poison on the
masses of our people. The stuff is taking is killing us.
It's killing us mentally and physically.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
All right, twenty six Away from the Top, Bob's checking
in from Buffalo's Online three Grand Rising Bobby on my
brother Karbay.

Speaker 10 (30:32):
Now, yes they're busted.

Speaker 11 (30:34):
Love.

Speaker 10 (30:35):
I just wanted to thank the brother for mentioning and
bringing up the name of Jamil Alaman.

Speaker 12 (30:40):
Most of us seemed to have forgotten the brother's languachine
and suffering, and I want to recommend his book, Revolution
by the Book, so people can, you know, do the
research and find out what the brother is talking about.
And I just wanted to comment on this Ice Agency thing.
Who they are, who they are not. We need to

(31:02):
control the narrative and stop thinking that they're trying to
arrest criminals, is trying to meet a quota, And you
don't know who those people are behind those masks. I
think they're primarily January sixth survivors. You know, we got
to stop buying into the narrative and we got to
understand that we're behind enemy lines and we're dealing with

(31:24):
agents doant or unknown paid or unpaid.

Speaker 11 (31:28):
And we got to also remind people that there are
agent provocateurs who are trying to start some crap. So
you know, we can't fall for the Okido can remember
we're behind enemy lines and we're fighting and working for
survival of ourselves and our future. To those are the
comments that I had. But thank you brother for mentioning

(31:50):
Jamil All.

Speaker 7 (31:51):
I mean, man, right on, brother, you know we have
to uplift our freedom fighters. Man and again that's a
brother who's been doing it for a while, constantly evolves.
Who's still with us? And man, he's free, Imam, Jamil,
l me Man three and all three all our political Christmas.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, and if we don't salute them, who will? But
check it out. We've got to step aside and get
caught up in the latest news, trafficking weather in a
different cities. We come back. Diana's calling from La has
a question or comment for you. Family, YouTube can join
our conversation with our guests. He's an activist. Brother Quibina,
you can reach out to us at eight hundred four
or five zero seventy eight seventy six. Discussing the violence

(32:29):
perpetrated or caused by some of the music lyrics that
are being played by our young people. What are your thoughts?
Reach out to us again. A telephone number is eight
hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six, and
we'll take a phone calls after the news that's next
and Grand Rising family, thanks for waking up with us
on this Tuesday morning. We're eighteen minutes away from the
top of the out with our guest, brother Quibina. He's
an activist, and you're talking about the shootings on our

(32:50):
campuses HBCU campuses and some of those shootings, he says,
we're caused by some of the lyrics, some of the
music that our young people enjoy. Before we go back
to him, oh, let me just remind you come up
late this morning. We're gonna speak with economist doctor Julian Malveaux. Also,
we're going to speak with phil Phil Smith. He's president
of the National African American Gun Association. She says, a
lot of folks are signing up like in a surgeon

(33:12):
membership fulfill. The President General the Universal of African People's Organization,
Brother Zachi Breuty, will introduce us to to Cuban Freedom
fight US and later this week a future heuristic researcher,
Brother Saideka Baccari, will be here along with New York
media analysts and Wayne Gilman and Reggie Thomas will also
join us. So, if you are in Baltimore, I shure
you keep you radio locked in tight on ten ten
WLB or free end of the DMV. We're on FM,

(33:34):
We're on AM. I'm sorry, fourteen fifty WL or information
is power? All right? Family? As I mentioned, Brother Quibinas
with us, and before we left for the news update,
Diane is calling from LA. Has a question or a
comment from She's online two grand rising. Diane, you're on
with Brother Quibina.

Speaker 13 (33:54):
Blether Cot.

Speaker 14 (33:55):
What I like to know?

Speaker 13 (33:57):
Can can you approach the president at our Black colleges
and if you could teach a course on what this
music means and what it's doing to the community. Of
course I believe needs to be taught. I mean they
have some of the colleges have making stallin teaching a

(34:19):
course Kendrick Lamar and other rappers teaching a course about
their music. Can you approach the Black college presidents and
see if a course can't be taught I think that
would help.

Speaker 15 (34:35):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
Yes, an excellent question. And you know, if there was
a course or just a seminar, I don't, we don't
even All we mean is just a couple of courses
or a couple of seminars just to talk about the lyrics,
just to talk about what they're saying and what they're
promoting to the masses. We have a piece that we've
been sharing about working with the Clear the Airways project,

(34:59):
and if you just look up clear the Airways and
airways as in ocean waves would it be? And just
look up the Sad State of Black Music survey, and
you see so many people who asked them just sent
me three questions. The percentage of music in your peers
listen to that drop the embomb on us, the senters
that refers to our women, folks, our sisters, our mamas,

(35:19):
our daughters, our wives, our grandmama's, our girlfriends as bees
and h's. And the last question is the percentage of
music that brags about and encourages us to shooting and
killing of black people. I'm telling you seventy eighty ninety
percent is the answer in each case, pretty much. The
last one of the last brothers we talked to is
calmly said, oh, ninety five to the first one, dropping

(35:42):
using the mbombs, dropping mbombs on us ninety five, referring
to our women as bees and HS one hundred when
he said, talks about bragging and encouraging us to take
each other's life in the music that we listen to,
it's so sad, brother, It's so sad, and you know
it's been normalized. I mean, just to listen to Kendrick

(36:02):
Perkins the other day, the first night of the NBA
season refer to the NBA Young Boy's concerts selling out.
I mean, they had to cancel this brother's concert in
Chicago and Detroit, in Atlanta, and I'm in Louisiana last
week of struggling with a young relative of mine, a
female relative who wants to go to the NBA Young
Boy Concert in New Orleans. I'm like, y'all, just don't

(36:24):
don't you understand? So a couple of years ago, there
was fifteen people shot at a church at a funeral
at a church in Chicago, one sister had her breast
shot off. And turn the radio on and they playing
NBA Young Boy two songs in a row, I don't
know what the first song was about. Then the songs
from him come on about shooting you in your face

(36:46):
in the middle of the day. These are the stations
that charm and are children.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
All right?

Speaker 14 (36:54):
Yes, I'm still there.

Speaker 13 (36:55):
Well, thank you. That's a great idea about a seminar,
and I will look up that in nation. But a
seminar is needed, or a class at piece of black colleges,
and I will look up airways.

Speaker 16 (37:10):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Diane, and brother could being a as you mentioned, have
a you know, I think you sort of preaching to
the choir if you have these, you know, these these
discussions about some of these artists. We've got to get
to the root of it. Why why are young people
attracted to music like that? It's something psychological to work
here that I think we need a doctor Wilson to

(37:32):
come in and and sit on a couch and figure
out why why are you attracted some music that that
talks about killing each other, downgrading each other. There's something,
you know, something beyond my scope that that needs that.
You know, it's the root of the problem. It's not
just the music, because because we hear that music, it
doesn't We're not going out there. I want to go

(37:52):
to a gloryal concert or the guy that you mentioned
that he's talking about shooting up and using debasing language
about our people. That doesn't that doesn't motivate us, and
I'm sure it doesn't matter a lot of other young
people too. When they hear these songs and these lyrics,
they sime, man, that's that's not that's a big that's
a huge turn off. So the ones that are excited
about these artists that that put us down, those are

(38:12):
the ones that we have. We have to reach. How
can we do that? You have any thoughts?

Speaker 7 (38:16):
Yeah, twer Power broke it down in the song. That's
why music is so important, has such an influence. That's
way back in the day called what is It? People
want to be here. I want to be hipping when
who's another nuthers? I want to be here to make
life the crowd, not even the girl over from them
from the skylights. People want to be hip and they
make it hip. They make it, they promoted and push

(38:38):
it all the time. You mentioned Doctor Wellson, which right
once she made transition. This was listened to one of
her raps and twenty four minute mark of this rap,
she said rap music has annihilated the self respect of
black people annihilated. And we constantly said that, and you know, people,

(38:59):
you can't say it overall. Okay, Yeah, there's different conscious artists.
There'ferent artists out there who pushed some great music right there.
We do a conscious hip hop show. They been doing
us for twenty six years, how to Gary Indiana's called
a weekly rap Up. We played conscious hip hop, classics, funk,
and we mellow it up. So this is what we do.
So we understand that. But she's right, And I said,
y'all tell us what she's wrong. And people can't do it. Oh,

(39:21):
I don't know, you they tell us, they can't. They
can't tell them what she's wrong. She was correct in
her analysis of what this music is doing to the
minds of the masters of our people, and they force
feed it on us, Like I said, Kendrick Perkins mitrom India,
young boy. And you know you've had us on previously
with myself and doctor McIntosh from the Committee to Eliminate
Media offensive to African people dealing with this whole piece

(39:43):
for this Good Times reboot. This is a show where
they got three rappers named Baby Little Baby, the baby
and baby baby pulling the gun and shooting at a
two year old baby depicted in the cartoon who's slanging drugs,
whose daddy has kicked him in the house for slanging drudgs.
And here we have the greatest shooter in the history
of the NBA, who's even this year coming out just

(40:04):
going crazy so far this year, the greatest suitor being
the executive producer of this cartoon that de pics black
people as as just horribly depicts our people with twelve
year old girls using them, mistel blood and throw it
in the face of other twelve year old children.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
You know, they got ten away from the top there Again,
there's there's got to be something that that you and
I are not going to go and listen to them.
Be a young boy. But you you said your niece,
I think you said in Louisiana wanted to go to
the concert and you were explained. Why did you ask
her why she wanted to go and hear that is
be debased, that I be talked down and called out

(40:44):
of a naghbor? Did you try to figure out why
she appreach appreciates that kind of music?

Speaker 7 (40:50):
Yeah, we do. One of one of my other cousin
asked me, say, you need to ask another question when
I do the survey, ask the why. I don't know
why already, but I think they're correct who make them think?
And we talked about that with family and I said,
don't you know what your uncle? Your uncle does with
the work we do, you know, But it's so hard
because it's been it's been popularized, and it's it's what's

(41:11):
what everybody with so many people like and they think
it's okay to drop to have in bombs dropped on.
The women think it's cool. He's not talking about me
when he's calling me a bee. Oh yeah, he's talking
about me. And matter of fact, it's got so hard,
so horrible with the women now that the women are
calling themselves bees and disrespecting themselves. And not all of them,
but these are the ones that they plan promote and push.

(41:33):
The Megan, the Megan Peek I received the call her
a male certain sized horse because he's not a stallion. Uh.
But the Megan piece, the Latteaus, the City Girls that
we mentioned earlier, the Cardi Bees, the Glow Realist, the
xy Reds, the second as well. It's just still you know,
if you're hear it. You can hear the exasperation of

(41:54):
my voice today. It's just a still unbelievable that we
can go from to Sledge and we talked about Jones.
We can go from the Jones Girls, We can go
from Philip Seymon and with me and those you know
who've displayed class, they had struggles. You know, a couple
of people who talked about you know, they've had struggles.
One of the members of the Jones Girls, you know,

(42:15):
buy alcohol abuals. So we know what happened to Whitney
and to Phyllips, But they're not putting that in their
music to push to the masters of our people, to
the masters of our young girls. But now it's all
bets off and it's killing us, Like doctor Wellson said,
it is annihilated and self respect for black people. In

(42:35):
two thousand and twenty twenty, there were two hundred rappers
who died, just the rappers, two hundred rappers who died.
In twenty twenty one, there was two hundred and fifty.
Of the two hundred and fifty who died, two hundred
of those died from gun violence, from gun violence from
what they promote and push in the music, something happened.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Would you say they ate away from the top Yet, brother, Clive,
you're saying that they they embellished that lifestyle. That's part
of the lifestyle. That what they're singing about, they're actually
living that kind of lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (43:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:10):
It used to be like for the Boss I think
was her name and sister back in the nineties, she
was talking all this stuff about violence, and they looked
at their background and she ain't even living like that.
But nowadays, brother, I'm telling you, a lot more of
them are embellishing. This embellish and it's not done by accident.
It's not done by accident. I can't I wish I

(43:30):
could find a quote from Kwame Toure when he was
speaking at One Brath. He was talking about the system.
Just all these deaths and all this killers over here.
They just sit back counter numbers. There's no big deal
in them. It's what they plan on doing. This stuff
is done purposely. I even go back to Frederick Jaffie
and the Jackie Memo where they were doing where they
were dealing with population control, and they put five things

(43:52):
in I think that we had to do. One of
them was depicted in the movie Three to Hard where
the Fred Williamson, Jim Brown and Jim Kelly. But they
put things in the water that our brothers stopped that
in that movie. But the other thing.

Speaker 18 (44:04):
Was promoting abortions, promoting mohmes homosexuality. And I can't recall
what the other one was, but the prison industrial complex.
They've probably added that one on. And we was African people.

Speaker 7 (44:17):
Sell so this stuff's hook line and singer thinking, and
this is what it is, brother. I mean, it was
around the tent ofd century when we heard the fact
that thirty percent of Black women in their thirties had
never been married. I was like, that's crazy, and I
started thinking about my friends in that age range, and
the sisters said, wow, well this one she then I'm married.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (44:38):
But twenty five years later, twenty five years later, it's
up to around fifty percent of Black women, not in
the thirties, but of marrying age, up to fifty percent
had never been married, never been married. And my question is,
who's gonna marry her? Why would I want to marry
a woman when as a child content I've been intergating

(44:58):
with music telling me that them ages ain't loyal. There
ain't nothing to cut that be off, or I would
never wifeer. I'm the only one nighter. Women full of lize.
I just f them and pass them to my guys.
This is a hot rotation on radio stations that target
African children. It's been happening right now again for over

(45:18):
a quarter of a century, and we can't take another
quarter of a century of this. We have to organize
properly and put a stop to this. We have to
protect our children, our children, our children. They cannot send
for themselves. It requires us to protect them. They need
our protection, they want our protection, and we're not. We're
litting in this industry. Take our children out, rape, mind

(45:39):
raping and a mind assault of the minds of our
children with this ratchet killed black people's death music that
they play. They have to be stopped.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, people listen to you probably agree, But the question
is how do we do that? Brother quick being ever listen,
Sister Serena in La has a question for you. But
we got to step aside and get caught up in
the ladies' trafficing weather in a different stations. We come back,
We'll speak to sister Serta family. You're listening to us
at Brother Cribbina. He's gone all out on this music.
It calls the deaf music killer music. We saw what

(46:08):
happened on some of our college campuses over the festivities
homecom festivities this week, last week and previous weeks. And
who's going to put us stop there? What are your thoughts?
You want to join this conversation, give us some ideas.
Reach out to us at eight hundred four to five
zero seventy eight to seventy six and we take a
phone calls after the traffic and weather this next and
Graham Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on this

(46:28):
Tuesday morning. I guess is a brother Quibina is an activist.
He's been fighting against some of the lyrics, some of
the music of the some of our young I use
that word quite a bit. Some of our young people
used and engage in and I love glorifying shootings and
deaths and the destruction of our people, something that Dr Wilson,
as we mentioned earlier, warned us about that would take place.

(46:49):
Now they don't have to do anything. We were doing
it by ourselves. We're taking ourselves out with this self hate.
A brother quabinas as I mentioned, sister Serrita's calling from
La has a question or a comment for issues online
to Grand Rising Sister Serena, Brother Coubina, Good.

Speaker 19 (47:04):
Morning and Grand Rising Carl. Thank you for taking my call,
but I wanted to act. I definitely understand his frustration
regarding the younger generation actually would are considered our children. However,
you know, where was the energy when Snoop Dogg, Doctor

(47:27):
dre So, the the late boomers, well on end too,
gen X, who were, as you called it, mind raping.
You know, our our culture, our you know, our our
babies basically. You know, I recall being under the hypnosis

(47:51):
of listening to uh the lyrics that I grew up
with being a Californian and stuff like that. But I'm
trying to figure out where.

Speaker 14 (48:03):
Are Where was that energy then?

Speaker 19 (48:06):
Were you a part of the listening ear of those
lyrics back then? You know, again, I understand your frustration.
I was talking to my daughters who are twenty six,
and I was telling them and asking questions regarding the

(48:27):
different rappers now, the female and male rappers, and they
were saying to me, well, Mom, you know in your
time there was Little Kim, Yes there was. And so
I told them I said yes. Then I said, but
there was also Queen Latifa and others that we listened to too.

(48:50):
But I just want to know, you know, are we
spanking everyone across the board, the girl, the ladies and
the young men, and what do you suggest that should
be done regarding you know us, you know, directing, redirecting them,

(49:12):
because basically we directed them in this in this direction,
we did that, then that's just we have to accept
accountability on that, and that is they grew up with it,
they listen to it, and so what is your suggestion.
I'm like Carl on this one in the sense of
then now that we know the issue, then what next?

(49:33):
Because now I have grandchildren, and let's say I do here.
I've switched it up to where all of my rap
is clean. So look, just just I just want to
touch on that because I noticed that it's we're pointing
fingers at the babies we raised, and so now what

(49:54):
where do we go from here? What's the solution?

Speaker 20 (49:57):
Now?

Speaker 19 (49:57):
Now, now let's let's talk about the solution and I'll
take my comments off there.

Speaker 7 (50:01):
Thank you, great, great question. You know, I was I
was awake in dj In at a skating ring in
Louisiana and Patterson Louisiana. I was in college. Young sister
comes up. She wants to hear throw that d from
the two Life two. I'm not playing that for you.
You a child. I'm not playing at it here. Uh,

(50:23):
she's right. I would when I was in college DJ
in I would play Gangster Gangster by n w A.
But I would play the clean version. Give aboutself a
little pass. But I will tell you we've been on this.
We've been with the struggle for a while. I've been
I was with See the Lowis Tucker for a while.
See the Lawis Tucker was absolutely correct. It seems like
if you if you're up with hip hop, you have
to you have to love jay Z, you have to
hate See the Loris Tucker, See the Lords Tucker was

(50:46):
absolutely correct with with the work that she was doing.
If we and we had a form in Chicago a
couple of years ago, Bob Blah was there and Maggie
Brown was there's just so many peoples here dealing with
the issue of this music. And uh, they started talking
I see Lords Tucker, and I was like, wait a minute.
We had these signists said black women are not bees
and ahs and with a picture of some beautiful sisters

(51:07):
on the poster. I said, if we had listened to
see the dors Tucker, we would not to have we
would not have to have these embarrassing posters up here
at this conference, at the symposium we're having here in
Chicago at Hockey mat of bodoties, our schools talking about
our having to express that our women aren't bees and
ass and so some of the solutions that we have.

(51:27):
The brother called was a brother or sister who called
earlier who talked about getting with these HBCU presidents and
these administrations. No, they can't come. We're not going to
If you're going to be making songs aby killing people
and disrespecting our women and calla's nds, you can't come
to our homecoming concert. We have to put our foot down.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
We have to ask you this though. The brother quib
is there a hidden hand, because usually you know, we
would look around. Is there a hidden hand who's promoting
this kind of music? Because I'm sure, like you say,
you've do a show and Gary and you use clean
good rappers, but those are the other ones that are
not being played you know on commercial radio stations that

(52:06):
those are being heard. Is there a hidden handles pushing
this kind of garbage music to young people?

Speaker 7 (52:13):
Absolutely. Paul Porter from Industry Ears and Melissa Figure put
in a lot of good work along this end for
so many years. But his book Blackout he talks about that,
he breaks it down. My comrade Nard Kramer, who works
with us with the Clear Airways project, he has a
book out called Who Stole the Soul? The Weaponization of

(52:34):
Hip Hop? Hip Hop hypocrisy from our coach, Alfred Paul
Alfred Powell out of Dayton, Ohio, the funk capital of
the world. So it's out there.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
We know what it is.

Speaker 7 (52:45):
We know what it's an evil industry who has who
obviously hates us, who's scared of us, who are dumbing
down our children, dumbing down up with the revolutionary youth
who would be resisting so many things that have happened
to day, but they got him done down with this materialism, this, this, this, uh,
the sensationalism of it. Yeah, so it is a hitting hand,

(53:07):
but we can stop them. So we There was a
group called Rage against the Ratchet out of Philadelphia and
they would file complaints constantly with the sec about the
music being played on these killer radio stations. They even
brought one radio station under and out of out of Delaware.
They had to stop doing what they were doing.

Speaker 21 (53:24):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (53:24):
They had a resolution at the City Council of Wilmington,
Delaware passed quit airways, followed project followed suit with what
they did, and we had the resolution passed in Gary, Indiana.
So he said, you know what, let's take this to
the largest city in the country. So along with Simul
Tap along with doctor E. Fay Williams in the National
Congress of Black Women and the Newbie and the National

(53:46):
Black Leadership Alliance with Bob Law, we got Representative at
the time and as Baron and others to sponsor a
resolution condemning to kill black people radio stations in New
York City. And the resolution was heard, but it sits dormant.
It's been sitting dormant for the past five years, six
years now right there in the City Council of New York.

(54:10):
Have they been saying that stuff about any other race,
any other group of people. We would have to be
waiting for five years. A matter of fact, we wouldn't
even had to make the resolution, but no, so these
are the ones. So we got to get that resolution
in of the FCC the Clear Airways project. We filed
formal complaints with the Federal Communications Commission, asking them or
demanding that they uphold their decency standards. That the FCC

(54:34):
has decency standards, and we demanded that they uphold them.
The attorneys from these radio conglomerates had to respond. They
responded to our complaints, and it took the FCC almost
a year to respond, and in both cases they sided
with the radio stations against the people, claiming that their licensees,

(54:54):
they trust that their licensees will provide content that is
beneficial to us listeners, like telling African children in Chicago
that it's okay to uh to deal with throat babies,
or or playing spot him got him talking about he's
gonna shoot in your back and knock to knock your
dreads off, that this was okay. So the Federal Communications

(55:15):
Commission sided with to kill black radio that kill black people,
radio stations that target our youth. But we got to
stay on them. So these are the things we must do.
We must hit the sponsors right, and we.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Just flat out of time. Brother Kuban, I wish you'd
have brought that up early here because it's important. But
listen because we got one of your comrades and brother
Zaqui Brudy on deck waiting for us, and we got
where we gotta let you go. Before we let you go,
how can folks reach you if they want to help
you in this crusade, because you've been doing this for
quite some time. How can they reach you?

Speaker 7 (55:45):
Clear thee Airways Project dot org is our website that
we got to update that. You could also have to
hit us on a quit Airways project on Facebook and
h you'll definitely get a hold of us. Doctor Barruti.
I mean our brother Zaqui Berruti was with us. We
had we were building out in front against Murder Music
in Atlanta a couple of years ago, and he was
one of the people who was with us out there.
So this is an ongoing struggle. But we can stop them.

(56:07):
We must stop them, because they're not gonna stop unless
we make them stop. So we have to organize and
put it into this to this practicidey's taking place in
the black community.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Well, I just want to thank you for speaking up
because somebody's got to step up and that's what you've done.
So I want to thank you and keep us in
the loop. Let us know how we can help you.

Speaker 22 (56:24):
We'll do.

Speaker 7 (56:24):
Brother, you helped you up tremendously today. Man, I appreciate
you one love all right.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
That's brother Cubina and he's been finding this or these,
these these lyrics that some of our young folks are
just mesmerized with them loving the music. Some of them
say they don't hear that. They just like the beat,
they don't hear the words. But obviously this is a
situation where where we wish we had a Dr Welson.
It just put all them on account so she can
analyze them, all right, Family ten half the top there

(56:49):
before we go to brother Zaki. Lem's giving an update
on this killer storm that's on the steps of Jamaica.

Speaker 8 (56:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
They say the winds are gusting up to two hundred
and forty one two one hundred and forty one miles
per hour. That's the strongest wind gusts ever mentioned ever
in a hurricane. So it's gonna cut through Jamaica's gonna
flatten that island, and then it's gonna go through Cuba,
the southern part of Cuba as well through the Bahamas
and maybe if it's still got life, its sights are

(57:16):
set on Bermuda, So we've got to reach out for
our brothers and sisters, uh and the Caribbean who who
were you know, looking at straight dead on on this stuff.
Because there's reading some reports and focus saying they're not
going anywhere, they're not moving. That always happens. You're gonna
have those folks. But please keep these folks in your
prayers because again, two hundred and forty one miles per hour.

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Those are the strongest gust wins ever ever recorded. Family,
So you know what that's gonna do. You've been there
in fifteen seventy miles per two hundred and forty one.
You can't stand up. Buildings don't stand up. So anyway,
just keep that in your thoughts and prayers and as
we go through the day, because they're gonna go through it.
Early this morning at twelve at the top of our
brother Zaquie Browdy Grand Rising and welcome back to the program.

Speaker 23 (57:59):
Right into your brother called all sing as well as
just want to salute my brother Kwamana of Vasilli for
his consistent work in terms of addressing the issue of
a systematic in my humble opinion, a systematic attack of
brainwashing our people with the kind of crazy lyrics that's

(58:20):
out there about many of the contemporary rappers and fingers.

Speaker 8 (58:26):
It takes me back to it'd be like promoting it.
But it is the fifth that comes through the airways sometimes.
But there's a video called hood right. I couldn't believe
what I was seeing in terms of the projection of
the negativityness and the still of typing of our people

(58:48):
and the sisters. But any way, I just salute that
brother in my prayer. When you guest made mention of
the hurricane that's striking Jamaica and Cuba at the my
prayers for the people, and that's I'll put some prayers
out for the Jamaican people and the Cuban people where
this hurricane is impacting.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, for real, fourteen after top down. But you have
a guest, do you want to share with us from Cuba?

Speaker 8 (59:17):
Yes? Yes. Our organization Universal African People's Organization, we have
an international perspective pan African perspectives. Since we have been
founded April fourth of nineteen eighty nine, as well as
historically since we've been founded, we have three annual programs

(59:37):
that we've celebrated including on April the fourth, the founding
of our organization as well as the assassination date of
Doctor King. We have an annual program then we annually
celebrate the life and legacy of Brother Malcolm X, also
known as the our Housman League. They Alshrabious as well
as the honorable markets Massage Guardy Owner and each of

(59:58):
their birthdays and in regards to Malcolm X, our organization
was to have held a commemoration of Malcolm on May
nineteenth of this year. However, we were structure in Saint
Louis with a very devastating tornado and.

Speaker 10 (01:00:16):
We had to counselor.

Speaker 8 (01:00:17):
But then we just held two major programs here in
October in his spirit of Malcolm X. And the theme
for the gathering which was on October twenty second and
twenty third, was in the spirit of Malcolm X al
Hajjemlik al Shabaz that we were hosting a forum and

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the theme of the forum was Cuba a connection with
Black America. And to that end, we had representatives from
the Embassy of Tua who came to Saint Louis and
we had a host of programs where they were in
attendance and mad some great presentations, and we had a

(01:01:04):
question and answers at each section. Our first one was
a private reception with the representatives and our organizational members
where we had about fifty of our members in attendance.
The second was that following morning of October twenty fourth,

(01:01:24):
where we had a meeting with elected officials and ministers
and heads of different organizations, which was well attendant. And
then later on that night we had the forum itself
and had over one hundred people in attendance, excited and
like I said, each.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Time, we uh yeah, who I thought right there, We've
got to step aside for a few months. I'll let
you finish your thought when he come back, and also
introduce us to a sister from Cuba. Family. You two
can get in on this conversation. Brother ZACKI Brewed and
our Cuban sister reach out to us at eight hundred
and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll
take a phone call next and Grand Rising family, thanks

(01:02:02):
for rolling with us on this Tuesday morning. And twenty
minutes after the top of that, I guessed his brother
Zaqui Berudi. Brother Zaki is the President General of the
Universal African People's Organization and he's got a guest with us.
But before bring on your guest, brother Zaki, I let
you finish your thought, okay.

Speaker 8 (01:02:17):
And as I was mentioning that our organization have an
international perspective, and in the past, we have had and
hosted ambassadors from the great country ZIMBABWEI Sudan as well
as South Africa. And in this instance we had, as
I mentioned, on the other side of the break, representatives

(01:02:38):
from the great island of Cuba. And it was just
so exciting in terms of the presentation of a boy
a guest, and I guess it's none other than a
young sister that was just so awesome in her presentation.
And I'm speaking of Gabriela Rodriguez, who out of the
Embassy is signing to work intact with the black community

(01:03:02):
to the community of African descent here in the United States.
So I would like to present to your audience sister
Gabriella Rodriguez from the Embassy of Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
All right, your ground rising, Sister Gabriella, Welcome to the program.

Speaker 24 (01:03:21):
Hello, good morning, Thank you for having me today.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Let me ask you this so because I keep hearing
these different numbers, but how many black folks? How many
African folks are on the island of Cuba. You're hearing
eighty percent, I can be here, thirty percent you look
at Wikipedia gives you a lower number. And then when
we look and hear about Cubans, we think about the
Miami Cubans and we, you know, some of us keep
looking for people to look like us, and we don't
see too many faces. So tell us how many what's

(01:03:48):
the percentage?

Speaker 24 (01:03:50):
Okay, so thank you for that question. Actually it's you
can see different different numbers about this because in Cuba
the present is just like thirty plus percent of people,
because of their color of the skin, identify themselves as
African descent. But the thing is that in Cuba, the

(01:04:12):
people don't only identify themselves because of the color of
their skin, but also because of the cultural and religious practices.
So that will hide the numbers on a sixty plus
percent of African descent people in Cube.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Is there an era where most of our people live
in Cuba on the Alexis now, we're talking about this
hurricane kill, a hurricane it's slicing through Jamaica and it's
on the way to Cuba. That's its next stop. And
I think it's around Guantanamo Bay where the naval basis.
It's going to impact that era. Where do our folks
live the majority, Well.

Speaker 24 (01:04:48):
We are all around the country, but the biggest concentration
is actually in the east part of the country, in
the south part of the country.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Is that where the hurricane is heading.

Speaker 24 (01:05:00):
Clue is that with the hurricane is heating. Actually, yes,
that is where the hurricane is going to pass through
one Tamal, and I think it's going to hit some
parts of Santiago Akula as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Wow, family, we're got to pray for our our brothers
and sisters in Cuba and in Jamaica with his killer storm.
As I mentioned earlier that the storm is the guster
up to two hundred and forty one miles per hour.
That's the largest ever recorded period, you know. So these
are the wind gusts they're coming down. This is going
to flatten Jamaica and that that part of Cuba too
is going to be impacted. So wow, just family, just

(01:05:35):
to prayer for our brothers and sisters in Cuba and
in Jamaica. Let's talk about the blockade. Sister Gabrielle, give
us some you know, give us some history at that
block add how did that come about?

Speaker 24 (01:05:46):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. Actually, this is a very
important moment regarding the issue of the blockade, because today
and tomorrow we'll start the discussions the debates in the
General Assembly of the United Nations to vote for the
solution of ning the embargo against Cuba. So thank you,
because I think it's important to begin by looking back,

(01:06:07):
because you understand what we are having right now regarding
the blockade and the sanctions against my country, it's important
to know the origin of it. So the US economic, commercial,
and financial blockade against Cuba did not begin yesterday. It
began more than six decades ago, after the Cuban people
decided in nineteen fifty nine, when the revolution took power

(01:06:31):
in my country to take their destiny into their own hands,
to build a sovereign nation free from external control. And
it actually what triggered the sanctions was the process of
nationalization in my country of properties that used to belong
to American companies and the one hundred percent of I'm
sorry one percent of people that used to hold in

(01:06:53):
their hands all the wealthiest of Cuba. But The legal
foundation of this policy is even older than that.

Speaker 16 (01:07:00):
It comes from a.

Speaker 24 (01:07:01):
Lot of nineteen seventeen called the Trading with the Enemy Act,
And I want to emphasize in the name of this act,
the Enemy Act. So it's a lot that was written
for wartime. But Cuba is not and has never.

Speaker 14 (01:07:14):
Been at war with the United States.

Speaker 24 (01:07:16):
And yet for more than sixty years, every US president,
no matter Democrat or Republican, has renewed this wartime measure
against my country. Trump did it in August twenty twenty five.

Speaker 16 (01:07:27):
Actually, that's the foundation of a.

Speaker 24 (01:07:29):
Policy that seeks not dialogue but pressure, not coexistence, but
submission for my country. And this policy is not frozening times.
I mean, it's not the same blockade that you have
in nineteen sixty. It has evolved, it has adapted, it
has titaned. It renews itself with news, sanctions and restriction
every year. Only in twenty twenty five, we have already

(01:07:51):
more than twenty seven new measures against Cuba. We've seen
fresh attempts to make daily life in Cuba harder, to
isolate us, to punish us. We have a very strong
campaign among the among and beside the economical sanctions and
the economical measures against Cuba.

Speaker 16 (01:08:08):
We do have miscommunication campaigns.

Speaker 24 (01:08:11):
Let the campaigns against the Cuban doctors that work abroad
the international Medical.

Speaker 16 (01:08:14):
Cooperation of Cuba, saying that Cuba is performing and the officials,
the foreign officials.

Speaker 24 (01:08:19):
Related to these cooperation brigades they are performing practices of
human trafficking, which is entirely false.

Speaker 16 (01:08:27):
These doctors go legally to those countries with agreement between Cuba.

Speaker 24 (01:08:32):
In in in the other countries that receive the medicals,
the medics in their in their in their homelands. But
perhaps I think the most cynical elements a lot of
all these US measures against Cuba is the fact that
Cuba still lists as a state sponsor of terrorism. This
is a unilateral list that is put in by the state,

(01:08:55):
is made by the State Department of the United States,
and I think it's important to look at the facts.
Since nineteen ninety five, the United States has recorded almost
four thousand deaths from tourist acts and none of these
acts are connected directly or indirectly to Cuba. And Cuba,
on the other hand, has suffered over three four hundred

(01:09:17):
deaths from tourist attacks since nineteen fifty nine and almost
all of them are organized, financed, and executed from US soil.
So I think you can come to your own conclusions
when I say these kind of numbers. So basically, this
is the history of the blockade. It started in nineteen
sixty during after by Big invasion. What triggered was the

(01:09:41):
process of nationalizations in Cuba.

Speaker 15 (01:09:44):
With was a process that was.

Speaker 24 (01:09:45):
Conducted legally according to the international law. And it is
a policy that aims to put a collective punishment against
the people of Cuba because of our interest in being
a sovereign.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Let me check in twenty eight after the top. A
lot of questions you ask you about the blockade, the
blockade created by the United States. What about the rest
of the world though, other than the Russians, Is anybody
else to just ignored the blockade and trade with Cuba?

Speaker 14 (01:10:16):
Okay?

Speaker 24 (01:10:17):
So the international community overwhelmingly supports the ending of the
blockade against Cuba. The thing is that the blockade has
and that is why it's important to name it as
a blockade and not as an embargo. It's something that
affects not only the relations between Cuba and the United States,

(01:10:37):
but also affects the relations that Cuba has with third countries,
and of course the other countries like Russia, stated China,
but also countries in Latin America are brothers and sisters
in the Caribbean that has historically support Cuba. They have
good relations, excellent relations with my country. The thing is
that since the blockade has I mean extra territorial concept

(01:11:00):
we as we call it extraterritorial consequences, sometimes the economical
relations to trade relations that we have with those countries
are affected by it. I put you an example. The
main economical activity that Cuba has is tourism.

Speaker 16 (01:11:16):
But imagine that due to all right, I'm sorry, yeah,
go ahead, yeah, So.

Speaker 24 (01:11:24):
Imagine that due to the b locade, a Canadian or
European tourists cannot go to Cuba or are this stimulated
to do tourism in Cuba, because if they go to
Cuba and visit my country, they will lose their capacity
to travel to the United States without having to apply

(01:11:46):
for a visa in a United States embassy does the
eesta visa exemption that the United States gives to certain
countries in the European Union and in Canada. So also
Cuba cannot buy nothing that has more than ten per
cent of American components. And imagine in this so globalized
economy buying something that has less than ten percent of

(01:12:09):
American components. It's very hard to find. And actually we
have to buy things like food, like medicine in markets
that are very far from our country, and that costs
even more money that it.

Speaker 16 (01:12:21):
Should cost us.

Speaker 24 (01:12:23):
Also, imagine trying to buy a medicine, a medicine. You
cannot buy a medicine like I don't know, and let's
say Spain, because the pharmaceutical that says the medicine that
this medicine has has an American patent, so the Cuban
government cannot buy that. And since we are included in

(01:12:44):
the list of state sponsors of terrorism, we are not
allowed to receive, you know, international financing from international institutions.
And only in the first year that we were included
in that list, forty eight banking institutions around the world
close their relations to Cuba. So there are many examples.

Speaker 16 (01:13:03):
But the thing is, and the thing is that.

Speaker 24 (01:13:06):
The blockade not only affects the relations between Cuba and
the United States, but also affects their relations with the others,
with other countries because the United States has economical relations
with other countries, and they threaten these countries and these
companies with sanctions.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Yeah, and twenty nine away from the top of our family,
just checking in us. I guess his sister Gabrielle Rodriquez
from Cuba. She's explaining to us what's going on on
the island right now, other than the fact that the
hurricane is approaching. But they've been dealing with this blockade
since the sixties, as she mentioned, since the Gabrielle. When
Barack Obama was president, he did a sort of restructure.

(01:13:45):
Is some of the restrictions against Cuba. Is this true
or this internet talk?

Speaker 24 (01:13:52):
No one, it's true. And actually I think it was
a very important step back in the time.

Speaker 16 (01:14:00):
It opened.

Speaker 24 (01:14:00):
First of all, I think it was important because it
opened dialogue between Cuba and the United States, which remained
close for for.

Speaker 14 (01:14:08):
A lot of years.

Speaker 24 (01:14:10):
And it opened dialogue in issues like migration, immigration, law enforcement,
human rights. So and also it gave the possibility to
American citizens to visit Cuba, which was very important for
the tourism industry. As I said, tourism is one of
the most important economic activities that we have.

Speaker 16 (01:14:31):
In the country.

Speaker 24 (01:14:32):
But it also opened many spaces of collaboration in health,
in environmental protection, in culture, in education. So it was
very important we signed together, We put in place like
twelve memorandums of understanding, but unfortunately all of that was
erased by the first shop administration.

Speaker 15 (01:14:56):
But yes, it was a very significant.

Speaker 16 (01:14:58):
Resonment for.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Could couldn't Barack Obama just ended the blockade? Couldn't he
have stopped all the sanctions and just opened it up?
Or was that beyond the scope? Because you know, I
saw that he made some steps towards that, but unfortunately
didn't do it nilatterally, even if though the Trump with
the administration coming and turned it around after what he did.
But couldn't he have done that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Though?

Speaker 24 (01:15:23):
Okay, so there are a lot of significant executive presidential
actions that the President of the United States can do
in order to ease the sanctions and ease the economical
measures against Cuba.

Speaker 14 (01:15:36):
The thing with the blockade, as it is such a brother.

Speaker 24 (01:15:40):
Scheme of sanctions that it includes actions in the Congress
of the United States, laws in the Congress approved by
the Congress of the United States, like the Helms Burton Act,
like the Tory Shelley.

Speaker 15 (01:15:53):
Acts, that are in the conmerce of the Unitedans and.

Speaker 16 (01:15:55):
Are the core bone of what the blockade is.

Speaker 15 (01:15:59):
So it is.

Speaker 24 (01:16:01):
I mean, it's not impossible to ease the Sanchos, but
ending completely the blockade would require action from the Congress
of the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Got you twenty six away from them at the time.
They are family just checking in US. I guess his
sister Gabriella Rodriquez from Cuba, from the Cuban EMBSCY in Washington,
d C. Give us a rundown what's going on on
the island of Cuba. And right now the Cubans are
concerned about this hurricane Hurricane Melissa that they say gustin
wins of two hundred and forty one miles per hour
that's never been recorded in history as stepping on Jamaica.

(01:16:32):
Meteorolisy of warning that the Jamaica will be unrecognizable after
Hurricane Melissa passes over and heads to Cuba. So that's
one of the issues we consider it. Speaking about that,
let's talk about the medical bigrades bigrades, Sister Gabriella, because
I understand that they've found out all across the globe
and the Trump administration has told countries if they accepted

(01:16:53):
the medical help from Cuba, they're going to be punished
by the United States. Is there any truth to that?

Speaker 16 (01:17:00):
Okay?

Speaker 14 (01:17:00):
Yes, Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:17:03):
The campaign against the medical brigades is something that has
been happening way before this, uh, the second Trump administration.

Speaker 24 (01:17:13):
But right now tecnd a new uh you know, uh,
renewed force because of certain politicians that we have right
now here in the United States have that has been
historically anti Cuba and now held important positions regarding foreign policy.
So yes, the story of the of the medical brigades
is something that started more than thirty years ago, uh

(01:17:37):
in Africa and expanded to Latin America, the Caribbean, Asia.

Speaker 19 (01:17:42):
Uh.

Speaker 24 (01:17:43):
So the Cuban doctors are almost are have a presence
in all the continents uh in the in in the
world right now.

Speaker 16 (01:17:54):
So yes, the.

Speaker 24 (01:17:56):
Medical when a country receives the medical brigade, they have
a legal agreement with the country of Cuba.

Speaker 11 (01:18:03):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (01:18:04):
Some of these medical missions, we receive.

Speaker 20 (01:18:07):
Revenue for the work.

Speaker 16 (01:18:09):
I mean the doctors receive payments.

Speaker 19 (01:18:11):
Uh.

Speaker 24 (01:18:11):
They receive I mean they have a place to stay
in the country, proper conditions to work. The thing with
the Cube doctors is that they don't work in comfortable places.
They go to places of difficult access in those countries.
They share their lives with the communities there, and they
are highly appreciated because otherwise sometimes those communities those countries

(01:18:37):
first don't have enough, you know, medical personnel in order
to address all the necessities in their countries. So the
doctors from Cuba help with that and they are highly
appreciated because they are really professional.

Speaker 16 (01:18:51):
They are well.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Sister Gabriel. We got to step aside and the ladies'
news in different cities and I come back and let
you finish your thought on billing. Baltimore would like to
speak to you family. You two can join this discussion.
Reach out to us at eight hundred and four or
five zero seventy eight to seventy six and we'll take it.
Phone calls for Gabriela Rodriquez from Cuba from the Qban
Embassy after the news that's next and Grand Rising family
thanks us rolling with us on this Tuesday money our

(01:19:15):
guests did. Gabriela Rodriquez is from the Cuban embassy. His
sisters give us an update on what's going on in Cuba,
especially give us the history of the blockade, and moment,
charlch you're going to tell us about the impact of
that blockade, But just remind folks that there's a hurricane
out there, and Hurricane Melissa. It's stepping on Jamaica's doorstep
right now and they're saying that Jamaica won't be recognized.

(01:19:36):
Well after he pass this by, it's gonna slice thuugh
Jamaica and head on the way to Cuba, disgusting of
winds up to two hundred and forty one miles protest.
That's highs to ever record on record, two hundred and
forty one Can you imagine that? And it's going straight
through Jamaica, going to Cuba, the southern part of Cuba
where the Sister Gabrielis's most of our brothers and sisters reside.
So keep them in their prayers as we go through
this morning, because all this is going to happen with

(01:19:57):
the next two days. Then after that is going to
go through the Bahamas, the southern island of the Bahamas
chain of islands, and then it's going down in the
Atlantic coach and heading towards Bermuda. So keep our brothers
and sisters on those islands in your prayers and thoughts
as will go through the next few days. Fifteen minutes
away from the top. They are following that. Coming up
later this morning, we would speak with doctor Julian Malvaux.

(01:20:19):
She's an economist that's going to talk about that the
government shutdowns disproportionately impacting the black community. Before we hear
from doctor Malvaux, the president of the National African American
Gun Association, Phil Smith, will be here, so as folks
are signing up, get packing up. It's signing up with
his organization. And later this week you're going to hear
from future futuristic researcher by the City Bacaria and New
York media analysts were Wayne Kimlin and Reggie Thomas all

(01:20:41):
going to be here this week. So if you're in Baltimore,
keep you radio locked in tight on ten ten WLB
or if you're in the DMV or on fourteen fifty
WL I, Sister Gabrielle, I'll let you finish your thought
on Bill and Baltimore as a question or comment for.

Speaker 24 (01:20:53):
You, Sorry, can you say it again?

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Did you finish your thoughts were before we left for
the news.

Speaker 24 (01:21:02):
Oh, yes, yeah, we were talking about the medical Brigades. Yeah,
the Cuban medical Brigades.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Yes, okay. I'm Bill in Baltimore. Wants you speak of
this online Wine Grand Rising, Billy Gabriella.

Speaker 20 (01:21:15):
Yes, sir, top of the morning, first call. I'm I'm
praying for everybody that's in the path of the hurricane,
and I just want to thank the Cuban people for
protecting our sister Sasha cor And I want the sister
to know that I did listen to her presentation while
she was in Saint Louis through Facebook lives. I want
to thank her for presentation. But I got I got

(01:21:37):
my question called is this I guess I want to
know in terms of how closely are the Cuban people
paying attention to the American political what's happening here politically
at this particular time, and how do they connect the
impact with them and us at this particular time.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
All right, thanks Bill, just A Gabrielle.

Speaker 24 (01:22:01):
Okay, Yes, the people in Cuba are listening closely because
we are in the same region, brother, and everything that
happens in this country has implications for the Caribbean, for
Latin America. And I think that what I mean, what

(01:22:22):
happens together in this situation is first of all, that
for many years they've tried to make us believe that
what happens in Cuba, or what happens here in the States,
or what happened with in Haiti, or what happens in
Africa is completely disconnected. And it's not because we strongly

(01:22:44):
believe as a country that is Pan African, aans that
recognize themselves as part of the diaspora, that the struggles
of the people of the global South are connected. That
we need to get together, that these sanctions that affect
Cuba are not I mean a part of what is
going on in Haiti, what is going on in Congo,

(01:23:04):
what is going on even I mean what is going
on in Latin America, what is going on in the Caribbean.
I think that the goal here is to get together,
is to have more conversations like this one and as
stay connected because we recognize ourselves in your struggles, and
I do believe that you recognize ourselves yourself in ours

(01:23:26):
in ours.

Speaker 25 (01:23:27):
All right, brother, kall connect quick question brother call yeah.
My question is twofold one is as UN nations getting
ready to vote on whether or not to end in Bargo,
what has been the past voting records basically in the

(01:23:48):
United Nations. And can you give a brief historical projection
as relates to Cuba involvement and making some change in
Southern Africa?

Speaker 8 (01:23:59):
Those or my two questions.

Speaker 24 (01:24:01):
Yeah, okay, So the historical I mean the history of
the votation is this votation in the United Natates and
is started in nineteen ninety one, and the world has
overwhelmingly support the resolution to end up Located imposed by
the United States against QA. In twenty twenty four was

(01:24:22):
the last votation. One hundred and eighty seven countries voted
in favor and only two voted against it.

Speaker 14 (01:24:29):
United States and Israel I think.

Speaker 24 (01:24:31):
That in this matter, the world has never been confused.
They know that this Located violates international law, they know
it violates the principle.

Speaker 21 (01:24:39):
Of sovereignty and non intervention, and they know it undermines
the very spirit of the United States Sharter.

Speaker 14 (01:24:45):
So this vote is very.

Speaker 24 (01:24:46):
Important, not because it changes US law immediately, but because
I think it referms something that is essential for us.
That justice is not defined by power, but it's defined
I mean justice. And tomorrow, when the debate ends, the
debate ends with the votation of the United Nations the
World War. Once again, I think I trust again have

(01:25:10):
a chance to say clearly allowded that they don't support
the blockade against Cuba. And you were talking about South Africa,
Southern Africa, and yes, Cuba participated and the liberation struggles
of our brothers.

Speaker 21 (01:25:23):
And sisters in Africa since the seventies and since the seventies,
from the seventies until the nineties.

Speaker 24 (01:25:33):
They we sent people to Angola, we send people to Namidia,
we send people to Mozambique out of a request made
by the government of Angola.

Speaker 14 (01:25:42):
This is very important.

Speaker 24 (01:25:43):
We didn't go to Africa to invade. We were there
to help our brothers and sisters to fire for this
self determination, to end apartheid your Jim in Africa. And
once the I mean once the war was over, we
came back, our troops came back to our coment and
the only thing we didn't get a single cent because
we didn't want it.

Speaker 14 (01:26:03):
That was not the reason.

Speaker 24 (01:26:04):
Well we're there, not a diamond, notting. The only thing
that we took back from Africa was the bones of
our dead people who were there to support our brothers
and sisters.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Oh wow, thank you for that question, those questions, brothers
Zaki nine away from the top, they are, that's just
the Gabrielle, the impact of the embargo on our brothers
and sisters on the island of Cuba. Can you explain
the impact because you know, right now, as I mentioned,
there's a storm, a hurt, not a storm, a hurricane
kill a hurricane. It's on the on the way. This
is going to make matters worse. And the hurricane Melisia

(01:26:36):
is just going to about to camp over Jamaica and
then go to Cuba. And it's moving so slow, like
two miles an hour, And I mentioned the gust of
two hundred and forty one miles prout. That's gust.

Speaker 6 (01:26:46):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
So what's what's what's the impact of the embargo and
what do you think that's going to happen after the
storm passes by?

Speaker 24 (01:26:54):
Okay, so this storm is really bad news for us,
I mean for everyone in the Caribbean. And uh it's
the bad news because it's very very strong.

Speaker 6 (01:27:04):
Uh.

Speaker 24 (01:27:04):
The thing is that I mean you have to I
think it's important to say that this is going to
focus on material damages, mainly because thankfully the Civil Guard
in Cuba which we call the body that preserved the
civil security in my country. They already evacuated all the
vulnerable population in the in the south part of the

(01:27:27):
country in order to protect their lives. But the thing
that is that this is going to have a huge
impact in the in the I mean material impact in
my country, and mainly because this is a moment where
we are harvesting uh things like coca uh and.

Speaker 14 (01:27:46):
Other and other and other products that come from.

Speaker 24 (01:27:48):
Agriculture in Cuba that are mainly located in the in
the east part of the country. So yes, the blockade
affects uh almost everything, every aspect of the daily life.

Speaker 16 (01:28:02):
Of the Cuban people.

Speaker 24 (01:28:04):
So just imagine a mother who can find her child's
medication because the US company holds the patents and other
spirit sanctions to for selling it to us. Imagine a
doctor who's hospital in Cuba can't buy spare parts for
an X ray machine because the manufacturer's bank refuses to
persist the payment, or because these spare parts have more
than ten percent of American components. Some people in Washington

(01:28:28):
like to say, if there is a blockade, how do
you get tourists. I was explaining that this is a distortion.
The existence of tourism doesn't prove the blockade doesn't exist.
It proves our resilience because I mean, and our creativity
and our will to survive. Or why do we buy
oil if we have the blockade, because we receive oil
shipments from Mexico. But yet even those small openings that

(01:28:49):
we have are attacked.

Speaker 14 (01:28:52):
I said that.

Speaker 24 (01:28:54):
European and Canadian sitis are penalized when they visit Cuba
by revoking their visa frehenty to the United States. If
there are other means, they say, the US allows foods
to sell for sales to Cuba, so the blocks not
must not be that harsh. In reality, those sales come
with chains. We must pay cash in advance. And I'm

(01:29:15):
going to tell you some numbers, some that are hard
to ignore. Imagine that just twenty two.

Speaker 14 (01:29:20):
Days of lots as caused by the blockade will.

Speaker 24 (01:29:22):
Fund Cuba's entire annual program for basic medicine.

Speaker 14 (01:29:26):
Just two hours without the blockade will.

Speaker 24 (01:29:28):
Provide all medicine for psychiatric neurological care. And just ten
minutes will be enough to give hearing aids to every
child with disability in our schools. And those are just
examples of what the blockade does. But the blockade is
equal to blackouts in Cuba, blackout that lasts more than
twenty four hours, because the shipments of that bring oil

(01:29:51):
to our country are being sanctioned, not the companies the vessels.
A vessel that comes to Cuban harbor cannot visit an
American harbor more than six months. So that caused the
companies that sent all to Cuba a lot of money.
So this means that some companies don't want to sell
all of Cuba in order to generate electricity because they
say this is not a good business. Or I don't know,

(01:30:14):
companies that sell food they feel threatened because they can
be under sanctions if they are economical relations with the
companies here in the United States or even investments from
the government of the United States. So I will say
that every aspect of a Cuba, of the Cubans daily
life is inpacted by the blockheads somehow.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Yeah, hold that though, right then we got to step
aside and check the trafficing weather in our different cities
when we come back. I got two tweet questions. One
is about Mark or Rubio and the Miami Cubans because
they're they're they're supporting this blockade. Why are they doing that?
And they've got relatives down there, And one of the
tweets says that the Cuban people feel betrayed by Rubio
because he's leading the charge against Venezuela and he's also

(01:30:56):
coming for Cuban. Next, I'll let you respond to those
tweet and I got another tweet questions for you as well. Family,
just join us. I guess his sister Gabriela Rodriquez from Cuba,
from the Cuban Embassy in Washington, d C. Explaining to
us what's going on in Cuba right now. You want
to join this discussion, reach out to us at eight
hundred four to five zero seventy eight seventy six and
we'll ticket phone calls at the traffic and weather update
that's next and grind rising, family, and thanks for staying

(01:31:18):
with us on this Tuesday morning. I guess his sister
Gabriela Rodriquez from the Cuban ambssi's giving an update on
what's going on in Cuba. Of course, Cuba is on
the eye of this this hurricane, slow moving hurricane that's
about to end at Jamaica. So we're going to hear
more about that. And it's moving like two miles per hour,
so it's basically camping on top of Jamaica and then Cuba,
in the southern part of Cuba. And the sister Gabriel

(01:31:39):
tell us that most of our brothers and sisters reside
the question for the tweet question I have for you,
a Sister Gabriel, the tweeter says, do the Cuban people
feel betrayed by Rubio? He's leading the charge against Venezuela
and next he's coming for Cuba. And I'll I'll just
add on to that, how do they how do they?
You know, how they say they're against they're for the blockade.

(01:32:00):
They've got relatives down there, and they live in free
and easy here in America. But yet still they't they
don't want their own brothers and sisters on the island
to have that sort of freedom. Can you answer the
both those questions for us?

Speaker 15 (01:32:12):
Yes.

Speaker 24 (01:32:14):
First of all, I would like to I always like
to say when I have to address this particular issue
about Cubans here in the United States, is that the
first of all, Marco Ruian has never.

Speaker 16 (01:32:26):
Been in Cuba.

Speaker 14 (01:32:27):
He has never been in Cuba.

Speaker 24 (01:32:28):
He calls himself from Cuban origin, which is true, he's
from Givan origin, but he was never been in Cuba,
and his family left Cuba before nineteen fifty nine, so
his family been here in the United States, has nothing
to do with the Cuban Revolution.

Speaker 14 (01:32:44):
So if I meant I.

Speaker 24 (01:32:47):
Think that we don't feel betrayed, the people in Cuba
don't feel betrayed by Micao Ruby more than they will
feel betrayed by any other American politician that supports the
blockade against Cuba. Because I mean, I'm a Cuban. I
don't believe I mean, he's not Cuban. He's not Cuban,
he has never been in my country, and I don't

(01:33:07):
believe that he understands the damage of what the blockade
does for the Cuban people. The people like him and
other headline anti Cuban politicians that support the US located
against Cuba, they do it for ideological, political and I
think electoral reasons as well. Ideologically, they continue to reject

(01:33:29):
the Cuban Revolution and what it represents because it's a
model of independence, there's a model of social justice, and
there's a model of resistance to US domination in the
Western hemisphere. For them, I think maintaining the blockade is
the way to punish Cuba for choosing a different political
and economic path, And politically, the blockade serves as a

(01:33:50):
domestic tool for the United States in US politics, particularly
in Florida, taking a hard stance against Cuba has long
been a way to mobile lies and secure votes among
segments of the Cuban Americans community that left the island
mainly after nineteen fifty nine or grew up with anti
government narratives and economically, some also defend the blockade to

(01:34:13):
protect special interests that benefits from isolating Cuba or from
the idea of a future like regime change that could
open the island to privatization and external control. Remember what
I said about the nationalization process in Cuba. Many of
these people think that if the revolution is overthrown, they
will obtain their properties again and benefit from that again. So,

(01:34:37):
in essence, their support for the blockade has little to do,
I think, with democracy or human rights, because the blockade
is a systematic violation of human rights for the human
people and everything, and has everything to do with the
political opportunism and hostility towards the sovereign nation that refuses
to submit to Washington's agenda. And also a thing that

(01:35:02):
I like to point is that this point of view
doesn't represent the one opinion of the Cubans living in
the here in.

Speaker 16 (01:35:10):
The United States.

Speaker 24 (01:35:12):
Many of them want good relations I mean with their homeland.
They are interested in I mean they come here to
the United States, mostly the Judir generations, come to the
United States like any other immigrants, trying to find better
economical conditions, trying to help their families back in Cuba,
and they find the rights violated here in the United

(01:35:33):
States because even they cannot send remediances to their to
their families in Cuba because the blockade. One of the
things that compound the blockade the sanctions against the entities
that send remediances to Cuba and the entities that received
those remediances to Cuba. So the Cuban that the Cubans
that live here in the United States cannot send remediances

(01:35:54):
to their families. And many of them have stated in
solidarity groups, they belong to solidarity groups. They try to Cuba,
they come to Cuba, and after they obtained their papers,
they return to their countries in order to support their
families to visit their homeland. So at first, I don't
think that the opinion that the blockade should exist is

(01:36:15):
an opinion that represents the entire Cuban community here in
the United States.

Speaker 26 (01:36:20):
And second, Michael Ruyo is not a representation of what
a Cuban h or Cuban original politicians should be because
he has never stepped a foot in my country.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
All right, six after the top there, Ross Jilmas has
a question. He's in Buffalo, New York, is online one
Grand Rising, Ross jillmo your question for sister Gabriella Grand Rising.

Speaker 27 (01:36:42):
Basically almost happening in America right now. I know that
you are have been sending doctors to Africa and all
over the world. The health crisis in America. We need
doctors probably in the inner cities in America pretty soon,
especially what's happening politically. But I wanted to touch ask
a question about our culture. Maybe you could you could
answer put it in a perspective. During the sixties, many

(01:37:03):
of the African leaders like Achmet Seku today sent musicians
to Cuba to learn modern music, which created a whole
revolution in Africa about creating African music, but using Cuban
inspired drums horns, and that is what created many of
the modern West African musicians and a whole relook at

(01:37:27):
African culture. Can you talk about the importance of Cuba's
African retention and how important that can be for those
of us who see unity through culture, even before captivity,
even before enslave, and even before America's America, we have
common blood and common culture. Can you talk about the

(01:37:48):
importance of why we should use that solidarity now, Yes,
thank you, that's.

Speaker 24 (01:37:55):
Very That's a very important question because we have always
stated that some one of the mainly things or one
of the most important things that united is precisely those
cultural ties with Africa, with people from African descent here
in the United States. Uh, that's that's very strong.

Speaker 21 (01:38:14):
Actually, we have a lot of events in Cuba, international
events that gather musicians from the United States, Black musicians
from the United States, musicians from Africa, like the Jazz
the International Jazz Festival that happens every year in Havana.

Speaker 24 (01:38:30):
And also one of the biggest connections that we have
with the United States was the collaboration between and I'm
sorry about the pronunciation of his name Dizzy GPS, Guillipsy
and Channel Poso. The music by Guillipsy was inspired by
the by the afric Cuban rhythms that Channel Poso was,

(01:38:53):
I mean that the music of Channel Poso performed. And
you were talking specifically about some certain people going to
Cuba in order from Africa going to Cuba to learn
or to share the knowledge with the Cuban musicians. And
African rhythms are one present in almost every musical production.

Speaker 14 (01:39:19):
Our production that.

Speaker 24 (01:39:20):
We have in Cuba is very I mean it's beautiful
and uh and and it's almost everywhere. I mean, the
Cuban salta has African rhythms, the Cuban timba has African rhythms.
We do have. It even links with my personal story.
My great grandmother she used to be a singer in

(01:39:40):
these groups, an African group that lived in Cuba for many,
many years. So so the influence is immense and it
is of course a way to connect and it's something
that the site we have something like the Blocade present.
This is a connection and a bridge that that is
very very very used by people here in the United

(01:40:02):
States to go to Cuba to learn more about Cuba
to connect even using you know, internet and virtual and virtual.

Speaker 14 (01:40:10):
Tools in order to in order to create using in
order to create art.

Speaker 24 (01:40:14):
Because I think that, I mean cultural diplomacy is one
of the aspects that we use more here in the
United States.

Speaker 14 (01:40:21):
Because I mean it it is kind of a way
to overpass the.

Speaker 24 (01:40:26):
Economical and political regulations or bad relations that we have
coming from the government.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Yeah, let me just say there's a ten half the
top of the out of those who weren't wondering why
we pay so much attention to Cuba, because our ancestors
all made the same trip, which just came on different ships.
Some of our ancestors ended up in Cuba, Panama, Jamaica, Brazil.
But there's still our answers. Some of them were probably
even our blood brothers and sisters, and we just don't know.
So if you understand how the system of Pan African works,

(01:40:55):
that's why we're discussing this in Cuba needs a help
right now. And let me just say, Phil Smith, Press
in the National Africaneran Ghana says and Field gives another
couple of minutes here with it's just a Gabrielle because
another tweet question for the Tweeter says, as a guest,
if the lack of blacks in high visible positions in Cuba, Venezuela,
Puerto Rico, et cetera is a reflection of the same

(01:41:16):
racial caste system that is in this country.

Speaker 15 (01:41:21):
Okay, So.

Speaker 24 (01:41:24):
I will kind of disagree with the statement that we
have lack of black people in our government. I think
it's a matter of you know, it's a narrative that
is imposed by some people that is not one hundred
percent true. I mean, the National Assembly in Cuba that
could be like the Congress here in the United States,

(01:41:46):
has more than fifty percent of people that identify themselves
as black people after descendants. Also, maybe it's through that
perhaps you see our presidence is wide near the as Canel.
But remember that I said that in Cuba you don't
only identify yourself because of the color of your skin,
but also for your religious and cultural practices as something

(01:42:08):
from African descent. Actually, we consider ourselves a country of
African descent, the country that is part of the diaspora,
and we are very proud of that. And Cuba. The
first one of the vice ministers and no sorry, three
of the vice ministers in Cuba are people with black skin.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
So no, we are not.

Speaker 24 (01:42:31):
We don't have a low representation in government or in
the power structures in my country.

Speaker 14 (01:42:38):
I don't think that.

Speaker 16 (01:42:39):
I mean, we have more than.

Speaker 24 (01:42:41):
Fifty percent of representation. Also, you have to understand that
because of the color of the skin, we are only
thirty percent of those people in Cuba have black skin.
And perhaps it to be like I don't know in
proportion of what you see in the structures of power,

(01:43:02):
but we are not under representative actually, and regardless of religion,
a lot of people, I mean more than seventy one
of ten people in Cuba practices Afro Cuban religions.

Speaker 14 (01:43:18):
So no, I don't think there is.

Speaker 24 (01:43:19):
A lack of representation of black people in power in Cuba.
And actually there is a lot of programs, a lot
of organizations in the civil society, only Afro feminists, only
in acro feminist issues. In Cuba, there are more than
seventy organizations. And we are talking about a small country.
I know that seventy perhaps seems like a small number

(01:43:41):
here in the States, but in Cuba, seventy is a
high representation. We have a program in Cuba the name
of the program is program called Kuano which addresses the
manifestations of racism I in Cuba. I try to eradicate
those with It is a program that is in combination
of efforts between the government and the civil society in

(01:44:02):
Cuba with a high level of representations in the structures
of power. Imagine that every department in Cuba, like you
will say the Department of Health or the Department of
Education or the Ministry of Defense.

Speaker 14 (01:44:16):
In Cuba has to how to how to say.

Speaker 24 (01:44:20):
They have to present a report every month to the
program called in order to explain how they are addressing
the issues related to raise in my country, in order
to eradicate any type of discrimination, but mainly the discrimination
related to the color of your skin.

Speaker 14 (01:44:38):
So I think there is a lot of power and the.

Speaker 24 (01:44:41):
In the and the and issues related particularly to afford
the standing community in Cuba are taking in high accounts
in the power structures.

Speaker 16 (01:44:50):
In my country.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
You know what, Sister Gabrielle, I just want to thank
you for sharing all this information with us about Cuba
and again with our press for coming up with the
hurricane Melita that's heading to Cuba. After he's finishes his
business in Jamaica and our people are going to need
some help. So you know, once you stay in touch
with us, how can we help our brothers insist us
on both these islands. After the hurricane marches through Jamaica

(01:45:17):
first this morning and later tomorrow is going to go
through Cuba, the southern part of Cuba where many of
our folks, our people live. As I keep mentioning that
we all made our ancestors at least made the trip,
it's the same trip, but we came on different ships.
There's no difference why you were here and I and
you're there. We're all the same people, whether it be
in Brazil, Panama, Jamaica, trained at whatever, badeas and Cuba.

(01:45:41):
We're all the same people who all came cut from
the same tree. So that's why we've got to support
our brothers and sisters. Again, I just want to thank
you for sharing those giving us all this information because
a lot of people don't know what's going on in Cuba,
and thank you for sharing that information with us. And
thank you brother Zaki for setting this up for.

Speaker 24 (01:45:56):
Us all right, and thank you so much for the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Oh please and stay in touch with us because after
the hurricane is through with Jamaica and then ravages the Cuba. Next.
You guys going to need some help, so let us
know how we can help you, so stay in touch
with us.

Speaker 24 (01:46:13):
Sister Gabrielle, thank you, thank you so much, thank you
so much, highly appreciated.

Speaker 16 (01:46:17):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
All right, family, we got to step aside a few months.
We'll come back. Phil Smith has been generous with his time.
He's the president of the National African American Gun Association.
With tell us why folks are signing up the membership
in he's group, the Nationally African American Gun Association. What
are your thoughts? You can check in with us as
well at eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight
seventy six and we'll take your phone calls. Next and

(01:46:40):
grand Rising family, thanks for sticking with us on this
Tuesday morning. Here at twenty minutes after the top. There
our next guest. He is the president of the National
African American Gun Association. Name is Phil Smith. Phil, thank
you for being so patient with us, and welcome back
to the program Sphil there online too, Hello, yeah, oh
there you go.

Speaker 22 (01:47:01):
Sorry about say yeah, great to be here and the
waiting was worth it because I got got a lot
of information about Cuba, so so thank you, Phil.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
You know, we always have some new lesters since you've
been on tell us. How did you create the National
African American Gun Association.

Speaker 7 (01:47:15):
Why, Yeah, we started back in twenty fifteen. We were
fully incorporated as a five oh one C three, five
and four in twenty seventeen. We have roughly fifty thousand
members in our database. We have chapters all over the country,
roughly around eighty chapters to one hundred, depending on where
we're at of rolling out those chapters. We have a

(01:47:38):
forty percent membership of black women from all stripes, doctors, nurses,
single moms. You know, Dame, that we have that type
of woman in our organization. We have members in every
state in the country, regardless of where we're at California
to Connecticut, Florida to Washington, we have a member in
that state. We are a pro black, pro constitutional carry,

(01:48:02):
and a pro.

Speaker 22 (01:48:02):
Gun organization with no apologies, and our goal and job
is to teach black people in this country in a
very lawful, law abiding way, how to shoot a gun,
how to protect their families. If somebody breaks into your
house at two am, you have the skill set in
the basic foundation to protect yourself, and we definitely are

(01:48:23):
able to do that. We have some of the best
instructors in the country, male and female, that can go
out and show you how to shoot a gun, and
we do that very very well.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
Well twenty two I have that topat phil. Are you
seeing an upticket and membership that they pass a few
months so or is it everything still relative to the same.

Speaker 22 (01:48:42):
Yeah, we've seen an uptick in the last and I
say seven months based on some of the things that
are happening, you know, politically, socially, there's a lot of
tension out there. People are coming to us saying, hey,
you know, I just don't know what's going on with
the country. Just to make sure I want to protect myself.
So I'm going to get a gun for my family, myself,
and everybody's going to learn how to shoot. So we're
getting families joining, the mom, the dad, the kids are

(01:49:07):
coming in and getting trained as well. So a really
good thing to see our people slowly getting that burden
that has been placed on there socially in the past
of you know, black people should not have guns or
there's something innately wrong. If you want to have a
gun in your home. I think those days are long gone.
People realize that you your first responder. Nobody's going to

(01:49:29):
come and save you if somebody breaks in your house.
You have to learn how to protect yourself. If you
have social unrest, mob violence, you have to be able
to protect yourself. And at NAGA, that's the National African
American Gun Association, we're able to do that at a
very very high level because we have great people in
our organization on the ground. And when I see the ground,
I mean instructors. We have chapter presidents, we have state directors,

(01:49:53):
we have regional directors that push the narrative of our
community being able to protect itself and all times and
in every format that is presented to them.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
At twenty and a half the Tom Man, I think
that's important that that people know that some of people
will have guns, will be packing. But Phil, what age
children do you teach children? Is there age limit that
they come in and learn about the weapons.

Speaker 7 (01:50:20):
No.

Speaker 22 (01:50:20):
What we always tell anyone that has a child that
wants to come and shoot, because the other folks, other
folks in America, they bring their kids, you know, as
young as seven or eight nine, They learn how to
shoot a gun. And I say the same thing to
black people across this country. If you have a child
in the home, and you think as the parent, because
you're going to be there as the chaperone obviously, and

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they want and they think they need to be introduced
to guns, and they have the mental maturity and the
emotional strength to do that. Bring your kids to the range.
A lot of kids are at the range now with
their parents because that child needs to know how to
shoot a gun. Also, so when they're coming up and
getting raised in your home, they understand the power and

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the dangers of the firearm, so that they should know
how to use it. And this don't, I guess, leave
that for chance by not having them introduced to the
firearm and getting fully trained.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
Twenty five That top. Phil Larry's joining us easy in Maryland.
He has a question for you online one Grand Rising. Larry.

Speaker 10 (01:51:22):
You're on with Phil Smith, Grand Rising, This conversation is
past due, overdue. When I think of guns, I think
of calet Muhammad. We must arm ourselves or harm ourselves. Now,
I want to ask a question with Donald Trump changing

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the law in the District of Columbia that if you
kill someone it's death penalty. Where does that stand when
it comes to self defense and stands your ground? Do
you think that that law has to be changed to
protect the citizens protecting their own life and violent.

Speaker 22 (01:52:13):
And that's a great question, brother, and nice to meet
you this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 22 (01:52:17):
I think anytime there's a law that prevents you from
protecting yourself and your family, that's a law that needs
to be challenged in the courts. If someone breaks into
my home, and I'm talking universally across the country, if
someone breaks into your home or threatens to kill you
out in the street, you should have the right to
protect yourself, especially if they have a firearm. You are

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not a If I would tell everyone black people, we
are not discounted citizens, are sub Americans. Our black folks
die for this country, our ancestors, and we have the
ultimate right at all times to protect ourselves because of that.
Our bloods have been in the streets for a long time,
because we fought for this country when we weren't even

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considered a human. We were three fifths of a person.
So we make no apologies for any mindset that we have.
And I believe that we have the right to protect ourselves.
If someone is coming to kill you or to harm you,
you have the right to protect yourself. Brother, And there's
a legislation that is to that point that you're making.

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We need to go to the courts and use the
strength of the strength of our people to go to
vote and to change that narrative and change that legislation,
because I think it's absurd that you can't protect yourself
or as you said, it was stated very well, stand
your ground.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
You should have that right, got you twenty seven At
the top of that family, Phil Smith is the president
of the National African American Gun Associations with US this morning, Phil,
You've mentioned there's been a search in membership, but where
is that coming from. Is this from the southern areas
of suburban areas or is it coming from the inner cities.
Where are you seeing people's literally.

Speaker 22 (01:53:55):
Every sector of society and geographic area of the country
has seen an uptick. That's the northeast, that's the southeast,
that's the midwest, Chicago, that's the far west, southwest, everyone
that's seen an increase in membership because of what's going
on in the country regards to where your political leanings are.

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People see people are not stupid, especially Black folks. We
are very very intelligent. And we look around and we
see the social barometer and the political tension that's going
up and up and up, and it's getting tense, more
tents and more tense, and we say, you know what
I think. I think I need to get a gun.
Let's go to philis group, the National Ask American Gun Association,

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so I can get trained, my wife can get trained,
I can get trained, I can have my mother getting trained,
my brother, my sister, pulling my friends. That's common sense.
That makes an intelligent decision. To me, it's unintelligent to
not have a firearm in today's world, in twenty twenty five,
based on what's going on around you. If every other community,
I want to try to give this information out to

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all of our listeners right now. If you get anything
from this conversation this morning, please take this away. If
every other community around you, of different colors and ethnicities
has firearms, but you, but black people, you are putting
yourself in harm's way if something were to jump off.

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You cannot be the only person that doesn't have a
firearm and expect you're going to get some type of
savior to come in and protect your community because you
know what, folks, they can't and they won't.

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
Do not be at the.

Speaker 22 (01:55:37):
Mercy of your oppressor. That's the worst position to be in.
The position you want to be in is a position
of strength where you have teams of people that are
trained in your community, your family's trained. We have a
program called the NEST. That's the NAGA Emergency Support Team.
It's an emergency preparedness program that we have and in

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the NEST, everyone has a group of folks throughout the
country that protects each other, little groups of six, eight, nine,
ten people. It could be your brothers, it could be
your family, it could be your neighbors, and everyone has
a duty. If something happens, you can gravitate to your
nest to protect yourself and everybody has a role within
that nest. They're incredibly popular right now within our community

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and in our organization because it makes sense if chaos
is happening socially, what are we going to do as
a community, as a family. Well, I've got my brother,
I've got my next door neighbor. We all got guns,
we've got food, we've got water. We are prepared for
an emergency. And that's what it is, NAGA Emergency Support them.

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It's been incredibly popular and the theme has warped into
a very powerful vehicle for conversations and being prepared for
emergencies excuse me that might occur. That includes we have
a group of within the nests that hands communication called
our Black Ham Radio Group, which is incredibly popular because

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we're thinking about the whole long game. We're just not
talking about if one person in your street has a problem,
what they're going to do. We're talking about the community
coming together and saying, you know, we got this brother's back,
we got the sisters back, and we're able to protect
each other. And if anything happens across town and let's
say all the sale communication is going down, we have
brothers and sisters who have Ham radio expertise that can

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still communicate with each other. So we're thinking the whole
long game, not just a small random fix, but we're
thinking about how can we fully one hundred percent protect
ourselves as a black community when it comes to guns.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
All right, twenty nine Away from the Top, Phil Smith
and the president of the National African American Gun Associations,
I guess those you been listening to this program for
a while and no Mark from Anheim has told us
about the bug out back and one of the components
he says, you have to have a gun. Keep saying
that you have to have your bug out back because
whatever may come down, you have to be able to
protect yourself. You know, us passing a gun range that

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the other day and I saw there was a bus
full of of Asians on the bus and they're all
going to the gun range. And I remarked, wow, because
looking at the bus, see if I can find a
black face. You're always looking for the black face and
anything that I do. I don't know why, probably you know,
but I'm looking at and Phil, the entire bus was
Asians and they were going to the gun range. So

(01:58:27):
I'm just wondering. You know, our people, you said there's
a search, So that's good that our people are signing
up with your group to learn more about weapons. But
also do you help them purchase weapons? Are they do
we have any manufacturers that sell guns? So that you know,
part of this product too is to recycle our dollars.
So do you guys help them, you know, to find

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places where I can buy weapons from black manufacturers of
black people who sell weapons.

Speaker 22 (01:58:54):
We help our members find the best option for them
to purchase a gun in the area as fast as possible. Unfortunately,
this is the one to kink in. I think that
are communities that we do not have enough black gun manufacturers.
We might have one or two nationally, and those aren't
doing great to be quite honest. But we have been

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as a as a second option, we have been able
to partner with certain firearm organizations, gun manufacturers that understand
what we're trying to do, and they give us discounts.
They give us opportunities to for us to come in
and purchase guns either collectively are really good single rates

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for for for purchasing a firearm. The key in all
of this, and I'm back tracked to your statement about
the Asian community that you saw on the bus, and
I'll repeat it, and I hope everyone understands this, and
this is not happening in my mind, This is happening
real time right now. Every other community is getting ready

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for whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:59:59):
Except us.

Speaker 8 (02:00:02):
Now.

Speaker 22 (02:00:02):
Our group is doing well, but black people. There are
fourteen million black people in this country right now, and
fourteen I say about thirteen million of them are not prepared.
Just because you buy a gun and put it in
the shelf or an attic, or in a vault somewhere,
and you do not practice. Makes you ill prepared for

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anything that can happen to you in a violent way.
If you don't practice with that gun, if you don't
get trained in that gun, if you don't continually practice
with that gun, you will not be ready to protect yourself.
It's like working out. If you do not work out
and expect you go to the gym and think you're
going to four hundred pounds when you haven't worked out

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in a year or a half or two years, you
know what's going to be going to happen. You're going
to be really given a wake up call that you
are not in shape. The same thing with the gun.
You have to build what we call muscle memory. How
do you work under duress? Can you get that gun
out of your vault and you on your side hip

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and then in a defensive stand? How long will it
take you to do that under pressure? When I say
under pressure, you actually hear folks, because it's usually more
than more than one nowadays, breaking in your home, about
to kill, a rape and shoot your family, your wife,
your kids, and yourself. Are you prepared for that type
of protection, that level of defense. If you are not,

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please sign up for our organization today. Not that I
want you to sign up just for the sake of
signing up, is because you need that. And I am
literally I'm not going to beg anybody to join, but
I certainly want everybody to be aware of the dangers
that are happening in this country right now. People are
getting prepared, and I mean prepared for whatever. So please

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don't be the group or the person that is not
prepared when something pumps. We call it sahi TF. I'm
not going to repeat the word, but you understand what
I'm saying. You don't want to be that group or
that person that is looking around and seeing everyone prepared
except you and your house and your community. And we're
just the mindset that we are not going to allow

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that to happen. We're going to push our agenda, which
is getting our folks exposed to being able to protect
themselves at a high level under duress, under pressure, and
to work collectively. That's important. There's a statement that I
use all the time. If you want to go fast,
go alone. But if you want to go far, go
together collectively. And that's what we do at our organization.

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We get people in large groups continually across the country
to get trained and to train each other and to
work together and to practice and to get really, really
good with the firearm. And we are extremely proficient at
training folks across the country in any geographical area with
our organization, and that's something I'm very proud. If you're
on the West coast, we have people. If you're on

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the East coast, the southeast, the Midwest, the northeast, we
have qualified doctors that can come in and say, Okay, Carl,
I'm gonna show you how to hold a gun, shoot
a gun. We're gonna recommend what kind of animal you
should buy. We're going to show you how you should
store your gun at home. We're going to introduce you
to if you're a black woman, what we call our

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queens of Defense. Those are all black women in the
thousands across the country. These are doctors, these are nurses,
these are single moms, these are professionals. We're going to
show you and introduce you into that. We're also going
to show you our online community, which is twenty four
to seven. That means at any point in time, if
you want to talk to some brothers and sisters, you
log in and you can talk in text with some

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brothers and sisters across the country. You might want to
meet somebody in California, you can do that. If you
want to talk to somebody in Texas, you can do that.
So we have programs. We have the black Ham Radio Group,
we have the Queens of Defense, we have the NEST Program.
We give a travel program called the SEED Program Students Exposed,
Educated and developed in the two A community and those

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are kids eighteen to twenty four that is free to join.

Speaker 7 (02:04:04):
Right there, Phil, we.

Speaker 1 (02:04:05):
All set beside for a few months, says you finish
your thought, we'd come back. I got some folks want
to talk to you. Also got a tweet question about
bullets and say there's a run on bullets there the
shortage of bullets. So maybe you can share that with
us as well. Family, you two can join our conversation
with Phil Smith. Phil is the president of the National
African American Gun Association. You can reach them at eight
hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll

(02:04:25):
take your phone calls. Next Hang Ran Rolson Towny. Thanks
for rolling with us on this Tuesday morning. I guess
is Phil Smith. Phil is the president of the National
African American Gun Association. His group now seeing a surge
of folks signing up to become members, trying to find
out how to handle guns, how to shoot guns, how
to store guns. And also they got a programs you
mentioned for children. There's program for some sisters as well

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who feel they need protection. It's no man in the
homes and so they're signing up as well. What are
your thoughts five hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six.
Before we go back to Phil, just want to remind
you come up later this morning. You speak of the economist,
doctor Julian Malveaux t that's what's going on with the
economy and this government shutdown. But Phil, the question I
asked before the break was about bullets. If it's just
a text and says there was a shortage of bullets,

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is there any truth to that or is that just
some sort of internet rumor.

Speaker 22 (02:05:12):
There's a there was a severe shortage about a year ago.
But you can get access to bullets. You have to
do a little digging, go on the internet and see
what's available. But you can get purchase bullets, you know,
across the country, depending on what company you're talking to,
in the price point that you want. Because bullets cost money.
That is an extensive aspect of getting a gun. Bullets

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are not free.

Speaker 1 (02:05:38):
It's figuring about that though. When you guys recommend or
go to a supply, whether it be for the bullets
or for the gun, and they know where you're from,
the National African American Gun Assession, your black folks are
buying guns, you get any pushback from them.

Speaker 7 (02:05:51):
Not pushback.

Speaker 22 (02:05:51):
They're glad for our business we come in and that's
I want people to understand black folks, we are a
powerful block they as consumers. So when we're talking to
an organization and many we have discounts with, when you're
coming to them, they understand the the group of folks
that you represent behind you. So they're going to definitely

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treat you well. They're going to give you what you
want and execute on that purchase and get that information
or that that product to you. If they don't and
you treat it else, treated in a fashion that is negative,
that is racist, that is degrading your interaction with them,
Please let us know, and we'll make sure that they
are taking off our list immediately. We won't recommend you

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to anyone to go to that company because we have
we have money. We have dollars in our organization because
our people have money and dollars. Well, as I said before,
we're not degraded citizens or sub Americans. We are Americans
and we want to be treated as such, particularly be
an African American. And that's something we're very proud of
and we're not going to tolerate anything less than that.

Speaker 1 (02:06:57):
All right, sixteen away from the top Brother Policies online
why he's calling for Waldorff has a question for you
Grand Rising brother College with Phil Smith.

Speaker 28 (02:07:06):
Yeah, Grand Rising, my dear brothers, I appreciate all the information,
and I'm first of all, I'm not against responsible gun ownership.
My question has to be to do with the implied
bias that faces our community and what do we do
if we are confronted by a racist police cop, like

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for example, the jump the Air Force man officer in
Florida to be a rice and others, or a masked
Ice agent kicking down out during the middle of the night,
and how should we respond at as a citizen to
avoid getting shot immediately by that racist cop or ice

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agent or whatever that comes into our community.

Speaker 22 (02:08:02):
That's a great question. I always have recommended and stated
if you're contacted or you have any interactions with law
enforce force with either on a local or federal level,
comply because you're not going to win that court case
on the sidewalk at at night or in the middle
of the day. Just do what they're asking, even though
you know it is illegal, so you can come home
and be able to fight that legally. Fighting with them

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physically or having any interaction that's going to send you
down a road that you don't want to go because
they have everything in their power at that particular point.
So just do what you're told, give me information if
they say something crazy, don't do anything. Just recorded if
you can with your phone and take legal action. We
can't sit back and when it happens, do nothing. We

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have to legally go after these folks, just like they
did in the sixties, just like they did in the seventies.
You have to fight, and you have to fight strategically
and to use your head. But don't ever try to
have a settle your court case on the side walk
are in your car when you're getting pulled over by
the law enforcement, because nine times out of ten you're
going to lose.

Speaker 28 (02:09:06):
Well, if a mass person comes to your door and
says he's an ice agent, how can you how can
you determine whether he's a mass agent or an outlaw
or somebody else that comes and tries to break into
your house and so forth? How do you determine that?
I just I don't get it, but I'll take the
answer off air.

Speaker 8 (02:09:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (02:09:28):
Yeah, that's that's a great question.

Speaker 22 (02:09:29):
In many cases you don't know. But I would recommend
if somebody's banging at your door and they're saying whoever
they are, I would call nine one one first and foremost,
don't open that door. Ask them to present information or
present there, I guess whatever they carry to say that
I am a their certificate or not certificate, they their badge.
Take a picture of that. Tell your friends, call all

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of your family members, letting them know that something is happening,
and tell your community that this is happening. So everyone
can rally around you. But you your head, and that's
a that's a very difficult position to be in. But
use your head. Uh So, you can live another day
and fight that legally.

Speaker 1 (02:10:09):
I got some more folks want to talk. You got
a tweet question for you thirteen away from the topic. I.
Phil Smith is the president of the National African American
Gun Association. Phil and the tweeter says, how do you
deal with the mindset of self hate that has so
many of us shooting each other?

Speaker 7 (02:10:24):
Well?

Speaker 22 (02:10:24):
I always say, if, if, if there's some reason reason
black folks are shooting each other, what's the reason? Why
are we shooting each other? If that's case. If that's
the case, and then many times we are in position
economically where we are forced to fight to survive. But
I would tell everyone to take a step back and

(02:10:45):
look at the symptom, look at the disease. Now, this
is a question that those beyond just guns. If the
schools aren't teaching our kids to come out with a
skill they can get a job. If our if our
kids have a confrontational relationship with the cops at best,
what are we really saying. If we're giving our kids
a lifetime felonies at the age of twenty, what is

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that saying. What we need to do is change the institutions,
stop giving kids felonies for life. Stop having schools that
don't produce any kind of skills for our children, because
when they graduate from high school, they have to go
out into the mainframe of America economically and get able
to get a job. If you can't have any way

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to get a job, to articulate your needs and your skills,
what are you gonna do. You're gonna do what anyone
else would do. You would do what I would do
if I have babies at feed at home, I'm gonna
do whatever it takes. So we need to step back
and say, why are these kids or why are these
groups of people shooting each other? What's the disease? Not
the symptom? What's the disease?

Speaker 1 (02:11:49):
Got you ten away from the top? As I mentioned,
more folks who want to talk to your Line three,
Brother Mohama's calling from Washington, DC. Salam alekm Brother Mohammed,
John Woud, Phil Smith, Well Lacoul Sailim.

Speaker 8 (02:12:00):
This guest is way overdue.

Speaker 5 (02:12:04):
I was thinking about this type of a guest yesterday
listening to the show. One thing I would like, Missus Smith,
is it one thing I would like to suggest? I
would like to suggest that we start getting involved with
the sheriff's department in our communities around the country, because

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like here, right here in Prince George's County, I believe
it was only sixty thousand votes that gave Sheriff car
the Sheriff's department of Prince George County. Now the Sheriff's
Department of Prince George's County is over sixty million dollars
a year, okay. And the reason I would suggest this

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is because the sheriff cannot be fired. So that means
we need to start leveraging these sheriffs to cater to
our community and especially to our gun community. In Charles
County right next door, only forty thousand votes at the
Sheriff of Charles County, and the Sheriff of Charles County

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is over one hundred and forty million dollars a year.
So and like I said, they cannot be fired. They
can only be arrested for criminal activity or voted out
of office. And a sheriff has tremendous powers to look
after the African American gun community in this country. And
so I think this should be a nationwide thing that

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we do as a people. And I'd like to work
with you in bringing in our sheriff's department, which have
you know, access to ranges and weapons training and all
that kind of stuff under our influence in our control.

Speaker 8 (02:13:53):
Nationwide.

Speaker 5 (02:13:56):
And I'll listen to your response.

Speaker 22 (02:13:58):
All right, thanks you, But that's an outstanding point because
what you're saying is something we've been talking about for years.
You have to build relationships with those folks, particularly sheriffs,
because he's on point. Once those sheriffs are in office,
they have an incredible amount of control, power, influence. They
can stop things in this tracks or they can promote

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a different agenda, but they also understand they have to
listen to the folks in their community that put them
in office. And that's where black folks if we come together,
if we come together, we can make changes. But we
can't do it individually. We have to do it collectively
because they're not going to listen to one voice, but
they will listen to ten thousand voices or twenty thousand

(02:14:40):
voices in unity saying hey, we want this type of
relationship with law enforcement in our area. We want black
folks to be able to go to a gun range
unharrassed and support it. What are you going to do
to make that or facilitate that type of interaction with
our people.

Speaker 7 (02:14:58):
That's what we need to do.

Speaker 1 (02:15:00):
Away from the topic, folks want to talk to you
in Baltimore Money MIC's online for a grand rise in money. Mike.
Your question for Phil, good morning to call.

Speaker 7 (02:15:08):
Good morning Phil, and good morning brother.

Speaker 9 (02:15:12):
Good morning, Hey missus Smith. Have you ever thought about
running for political office?

Speaker 22 (02:15:17):
No, my wife won't let me. She she got me
locked down here at the house. Man, I can't get out.

Speaker 9 (02:15:21):
Okay, mind the same, I can't run. But look, can
you talk say that that piece that you talked about
with our economic power, because I don't believe this audience
understands the power of money, you know, And that's what
I want you to tell them again is people respect
our dollars, but people treat us bad when we don't
know the power of our dollars. So can you say

(02:15:44):
that piece again for me and for the rest of
the audience, And I'll take your response off.

Speaker 22 (02:15:48):
At absolutely brother, I'll say it again. If black folks
understand and we should understand our economic power. Meaning look
at the sixties when Martin one to shut down the
buses in Gunny because they were getting treated incorrectly and
in a very degrading way. They stop using those buses.

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So you know what happened. The buses quickly change their
their stance and let black people sit anywhere on the bus.
The reason why economics money. When you come to a situation,
regardless of that situation, in America, green is the ultimate
factor in many.

Speaker 10 (02:16:26):
Many cases.

Speaker 22 (02:16:27):
In most cases, So if someone is treating us not
in a honorable way, in a fair way, we let
that institution know because money counts. Money makes a difference
in every level in this in this world, and the
world is America. So make sure that when you have

(02:16:47):
a problem, make sure community comes together, make sure everyone
is on board and execute your strategy. And bottom line
of your dollar is not respected. Don't go to the
that facility, don't go to that bank, don't go to
that store, don't go to that nail shop, don't go
to that restaurant. Make your presence felt, and that's how

(02:17:08):
you get respect in America. Now, I know this is
beyond guns, but trust me, guns is at the foundation
because it means strength and power, and that's what our
organizations about. So if anyone has any thoughts or any
collaborations that they would like to do. Please contact me
at the National Lifework and Gun Association.

Speaker 10 (02:17:25):
I would love to talk to you, all.

Speaker 1 (02:17:28):
Right, stix away from TOFA and Nigel like to talk
to you. He's calling for Baltimore's online one Grand riseing
nigelliotone with Phil.

Speaker 7 (02:17:34):
Smith grund Rising.

Speaker 8 (02:17:36):
Gentlemen.

Speaker 17 (02:17:38):
So I wanted to give you guys a call on
the topic of compliance. And now I heard you talk
about not wanting to litigate matters in the street, and
I agree with you. But here is the problem. In fact,
there's two problems. One, we routinely wants were stop say

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things or otherwise take actions that allow for us to
waive certain constitutional guarantees. Okay, And that's the problem. So
by the time that you get with your lawyer after,
there's a problem. Now your lawyer is in a position
where he or she cannot really support you as zaliously

(02:18:23):
as he or she would want to because you waigh
certain rights based on your compliance. Now, I'm sure that
you've been hearing in the news recently, especially in Chicago,
with lawful gun owners carrying ccls being pulled over and
being arrested. So what I see as part of the

(02:18:46):
problem is, you know, it's an eagerness within black people,
especially earlier you were talking about the different professionals that
are now seeking to become gun owners and train.

Speaker 7 (02:19:02):
That group.

Speaker 17 (02:19:03):
Part of that group now is inviting individuals who believe
that they are on a much different level from every
other black person. So there's an internet for these individuals,
once making contact with law enforcement, to now feel compelled
to let the officer know that they are not like

(02:19:25):
those other negroes. So they'll say, okay, so the cop
will stop you for a tail light or or a
tide violation, or whatever the.

Speaker 7 (02:19:34):
Case might be.

Speaker 17 (02:19:35):
And the first thing these individuals are going to say
to the cop is like I want you to know
that I have a CCL or like I'm otherwise armed.
When the coup doesn't ask you, that you are under
no obligation to help the police officers with any investigation.

Speaker 7 (02:19:50):
That's my point.

Speaker 1 (02:19:51):
All right, let me respond, Phil, were gonna take a
show breaker. I'll let you respawn when we get back.
Eight seventy six. Phil Smith. Phil is the president of
the National African American Gun Association. I'll take your phone
calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks are sticking with
us on this Tuesday morning with I guess the president
of the National African American Gun Association, Phil Smith. Phil

(02:20:14):
says been an uptick people signing up for membership with
his group blacks of buying guns and buying bullets. Of
course you need them as well, because as you mentioned,
there was a shortage on bunch, but now they're back
on the market because we don't know what's going to
come down. As Mark from anaheimsmen tellency, your gun should
be part of your your bug out bag. Anyway, Phil,
I know you want to respond to what Nigel and
Baltimore said before he left for the break, So I'll

(02:20:35):
let you finish that.

Speaker 7 (02:20:36):
Yeah, and I respect the brother for having a perspective,
but I just want to push back a little bit,
not not push back, but just want to give him
some nuggets to think on. Black people are joining to
get guns or getting guns and then join my organization
because they want to protect themselves. And they come from

(02:20:57):
all economics, you know, st stratification. We're very rich ballers.
We've got players that play ball professionally, basketball, football, we
got many many entertainers, rappers, you name it. We have
in our organization. When they're stopped, they're not and I'm
putting a wide brush here, they're not stopping and saying hey,

(02:21:20):
you know, not most anyway, Hey I'm such and such,
I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer, I'm a rapper. Maybe some,
but most are just saying, hey, yes, sir, no sir,
here's my registration, licensed, proof of insurance.

Speaker 22 (02:21:34):
That's what most of our folks are doing. But what
they're getting in many, many cases, not all, because some
law enforcement officers and brothers out there they do a
great job, but there is a percentage that is confrontational
and they want to push an agenda that is going
to be a hurtful process for our people in that

(02:21:55):
situation because they have all the power. They're stopping you
on the side of the road, and they they're executing
their mandate on you beyond just stopping and asking for
information regarding a driving violation, if there is a driving violation.
Our people are very intelligent and they know the difference
between lawful activities and somebody pushing the agenda. And unfortunately,

(02:22:20):
what's happening to many of our folks, they are complying
to his point. They are being very compliant, but they're
still getting put in position of being arrested.

Speaker 4 (02:22:31):
Now.

Speaker 17 (02:22:31):
I was part of the.

Speaker 22 (02:22:32):
CBS special that they had on the black folks being
arrested in Chicago. You'll see the video to see that
I had a perspective and they asked me for my commentary,
which I gave them. But when our people are being compliant,
and it's the system that is wrong that needs to
be addressed. Now what's happened with Chakapa, and I hope

(02:22:53):
to god they are fixing it. The database that's supposed
to reflect that person's legal status was about four to
five months delinquent. So if you and I went today
and where let's say, for an example, went to Chicago
and got our CCL and our FOID card, it would
take three or four months for that system to be updated.

(02:23:15):
In the interim, if we were sought by the police,
the police would say, hey, yo, we'd check the system
and you're not in that system, so we're going to
arrest you, even though I've got proof of my CCL
and proof of my FOID card in your face. That's
an injustice that has to be taken care of. Because
those folks are now given felonies which are very, very

(02:23:36):
difficult to get rid of, and it costs money. That
a lot of our folks, as you know, are unlimited income.
So we have to address that, and we have to
do it strategically and with our with our head.

Speaker 1 (02:23:48):
Eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six
brothers say, Cou's checking in from Baltimore. Has a question
for you? Is online? Three grand rising brother say Coup,
you're on a Phil Smith.

Speaker 29 (02:23:58):
Yong Bo there din Filando Castile didn't he comply and
still got care about please.

Speaker 22 (02:24:07):
He not only did he comply, he was presenting information
to the law enforcement officer at that time, doing exactly
what he said. And I want to make a point,
and I know you have some follow up, but let
me let me interject this. If we're dealing with a
cop that is racist, if we're dealing with a cop
that is ill trained or ill prepared to interact with

(02:24:29):
black folks, that cop should not be on the street.
And as I said the very next day after Pilando
Castille was shot, I suggested to every member to carry.
That's the one way I want everyone to conceal carry
because we cannot let some rogue policemen or policemen plural
dictate how we're going to exercise our Second Amendment rights.

(02:24:52):
As I said earlier in the show, black folks have
died for this country more than any other group without
any type of political are legal advantages, So we don't
have to prove anything to anybody. But we're something I
call let one cop or two hundred cops. We're doing
things that are legal to our people to dictate how
we're going to move forward for the next two or
three hundred years. That's not gonna happen. We're gonna go

(02:25:13):
after them legally, and that person should be put in jail.
That's my perspective. Not all cops go ahead.

Speaker 29 (02:25:21):
Yeah, but in the meantime, a lot of our people
are being murdered in.

Speaker 20 (02:25:25):
Blue lives to me or rights.

Speaker 29 (02:25:26):
He was a little boy playing with a toy gun
at the recreation center. My point being, you don't seem
to make exceptions full to the racist police officers who
hide behind their badge and do a lot of eating.
Malcolm X said, don't throw away your life. Preserve your life.

(02:25:46):
It's the best thing you've got. But if you got
to get it up, let me eating seasons. I anticipate
allowed behavior by a certain character depending on their body language,
their approach.

Speaker 7 (02:25:59):
Right, you didn't tell in a.

Speaker 29 (02:26:02):
Dance how police office is gonna treat you, when they're
gonna treat you honorably within the comm times and the law,
or whether it might be liking for somebody to leave
to take out their hatred. Know, I have had numerous
registration treats showing all right, right, and I don't have no.

Speaker 1 (02:26:25):
Problem all right. I think we lost brother, say, because
we're running late here with the Dr Malvaux and I
still got some more folks want to talk to. Phil
also tweet questions, So let me just tweet because the
tweet is sure, that's sorry about that, brother. Uh, the
tweeted one of the two watch do you does your
group have a bunch of attorneys that you work with?

(02:26:51):
Phil still with us, Oh, I think we lost feeling
as well as uh. But Dr Malva was going on deck.
We're going to get to her motel. She's going to
shed light on how the government shutdown is disproportionately impacting
the black community feel it. By the way, is the
president of the National African American Gun Association Philis told

(02:27:11):
us has been a surge of people signing up getting
membership for for guns gun ownership, and what they do.
They teach you how to use the weapon, teach you
how to you know, how to buy where to buy
had how to get how to get the uh, the
bullets as well, because you can need that. Because there
was a shortage of bullets earlier this year. He said,
that's been rectified now because the other folks. Believe me,

(02:27:32):
the other folks are stocking up. That's why there's a
shortage of bullets. And it's training. As you mentioned, the
members go all across the the economic social boundaries of
our community. Everybody's signing up to get to get their guns.
So that that's that's a good thing. So when just
in case something happens, as I mentioned, the Mark from
Manheim has told us a long time ago, part of

(02:27:54):
your bug back should be a gun. You should have
something to defend yourself. And this is where we're seeing
a now. As Phil mentioned in the last few few
months here, since Donald Trump's second turn around, the people,
how people are buying guns, and especially the sisters, as
he says, buying guns special single sisters. Also, well, it's
a lot of professional folks, as you mentioned, anentertaining athletes

(02:28:18):
as well buying guns. So Phil, I'll not you finished
responding to what brother say Ku said. And then the
question I have for you is how does the person
wonder know if do you have guys have a bunch
of attorneys on retainer, And.

Speaker 22 (02:28:31):
That's a great question. Let me address the first question. Obviously,
as a black man and I've been stopped many many
times by the law enforcement officers, I've been arrested by
law enforcement office, I understand that process is the one
thing you cannot do. The one thing you cannot do
is to give up. And I can feel the frustration

(02:28:51):
and the pain in that brother's voice. It's a very
high heel to climb when people are going after you
literally for your life, and I get it. But the
one thing you can't do is to put yourself in
a position to really be be being harmed off the

(02:29:12):
off the cuff. And I know it's hard. It's a
it's a very tight line that you're walking because you're
dealing with somebody that doesn't like you and they're looking
for a reason. As I said, everyone, if you're stopped
by the police tend to put your hands, tend to
on the steering wheel, don't move, have your insurance and
registration in your hand, don't move, don't know regardless of

(02:29:33):
what he or she says, and go by the letter
of the law. Doesn't guarantee anything, but you're in basically
behind enemy lines at that particular point, and act accordingly,
use your head, do what the a person says, and
hopefully that will be enough to satisfy any other investigative
attitude of the cop. Don't worry about what you're saying

(02:29:54):
to you and the tone and all that other stuff,
but make sure that you comply because you're not. As
I said before, you're not going to win that fight
on the side of the road. But don't be discouraged
and not carry a gun because some roll coop in
some town has acted a fool. So I'll leave my
comments at that point.

Speaker 1 (02:30:14):
Okay, I fail, we go. I'll let you go. Before
we let you go, though, how can folks join your organization?
They wanted because you know they've they've seen the writing
on the wall, and people want to have something to
protect themselves. And as you said, many people are signing up.
How can they reach your organization?

Speaker 22 (02:30:29):
Yeah, very simple, and we want everybody listening to join. Everybody,
even if you don't have a gun. Join Go to
www dot n A A g A dot col. That's
NAGA dot co. Go to the website, sign up, read
the information on the Black history of Arms. We talk
about Malcolm, we talk about the Panthers, we talk about

(02:30:50):
Rob Williams. We talk about the strategy of black folks
across this country upgrading their self defense and their ability
to protect ourselves and their family. We'd love to have you.
We have online communities, we have Queens of Defense where
there's roughly over fifteen thousand black women on our organization
that canct connect and there's nothing like the sisters when

(02:31:12):
they connect. I'm gonna tell you that right now. But
please join the organization. This is a time not to
play around in this country. And I mean that even
if you don't join our organization, get a firearm to
protect yourself and I'll leave it at that, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:31:25):
Thanks Phil, Thank you for sharing about information with us,
and we'll keep touch with you as well and see
what happens is because you know, things are changing this
country so rapidly, and you're right, people need to protect themselves.
Part of your bug out back should be some sort
of weapon. This is what Phil does with his group
as president of the National African American Gun Association.

Speaker 22 (02:31:44):
Thank you Phil, No, thank you brother honor to be
here all right.

Speaker 1 (02:31:47):
Family peace twelve away after the top of the art.
That's bringing talking about queens. One of our queens, economic queens.
Sister doctor Julian Malvaux. Doctor Malvaux, welcome back to the program.

Speaker 14 (02:32:00):
Could call good to be with you always.

Speaker 27 (02:32:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:32:03):
And you know we talked about guns that I just
wanted with your thoughts on that. Do you think you
think Phil is the oppression of the National African American
Gun Assession, She says, been a surge, especially since Uh.
I wouldn't say use the word packing, but you know
that's what it really is, that they're buying weapons and
just to protect themselves. I just want to get your
thoughts in that before we get into the economy.

Speaker 14 (02:32:22):
Well, we do have to protect how tells this is
very dangerous time. I'll tell you, uh, very recently, maybe
now two months ago. I'm walking home and I see
some white people in my yard. It's a tiny little yard,
but that's the point.

Speaker 16 (02:32:39):
It's mine.

Speaker 14 (02:32:41):
I you know, I have a I have a very bad,
notoriously bad temper, and I was about to go off
on her. But my therapist says, you know, when you
go off on people, you become a story. Why don't
you got it back? Why I gat it back? I want.
I walked up with them, but I said, Hi, I'm
juing our novel.

Speaker 15 (02:32:57):
This is my home.

Speaker 17 (02:32:58):
Why are you in my yard?

Speaker 14 (02:33:00):
The woman says, we're just looking, at which point I
lost it. I said, this is not a blucking museum.

Speaker 11 (02:33:05):
This is my home.

Speaker 14 (02:33:06):
Your trespassing on private property. The white boy who was
six six and bulky, she's a little buy thing. He says,
what are you going to do about it? And call?

Speaker 15 (02:33:16):
I tell you I.

Speaker 14 (02:33:17):
Prayed for a gun. I prayed for a gun. But
you know I'm also not ignorant. So what I did
was I called nine one one and I said, I'm
a senior citizen and there's some people by yard. I
don't know what to do. I'm scared. I had a stroke,
which I did a year or so ago, I said,
and my heart is palpitating. The police came right away,

(02:33:37):
took care of it. But I tell you, at that moment,
I mean white folks have gotten bold and bold enned
and do not trust, do not respect black people. As
a dread Scott decision said black people have no rights.
But they said they have no rights that they're bound
to respect. And that is the case. So from my perspective,

(02:33:58):
I don't own a gun because I said, my temper
is to that too bad that white would have been
shot the kingdom. Come ask me what was I gonna
do without? But this is a time for us to
be prepared to defend by whatever means necessary. And that
made me a gun, that means law enforcement, That made

(02:34:20):
me informal justice. But they got to stop.

Speaker 17 (02:34:23):
And I agree with the bredit.

Speaker 14 (02:34:24):
I'm gonna look for these what do you call them,
just a quick warrior queens. Oh yeah, I'm gonna look
for them.

Speaker 1 (02:34:31):
Oh yeah. They're part of his group at the National
African American Gun Association. But you know what, we've come
up on a break and we come back though. Let's
let's talk about the economy. Doctor vout malvote, because this
government shutdown is going on and now they say it
may go on until Thanksgiving. And now we're here that
the snap program of food stamps are they're going to
be impacted people who get those stamps, even though they

(02:34:53):
break this down for us because they think that's going
to impact up our community more than others. I just
want to know, is Oh, absolutely, we We'll tell I'll
tell you what. Let's take the breaking then and I'll
let you break that down for us.

Speaker 14 (02:35:06):
Okay, sounds good?

Speaker 1 (02:35:07):
All right, family, just checking in. Our guess is doctor
Julian Malvaux. She's economist that mit ecomomists. When are smart
sisters out there when it comes to the economy. You've
seen her on TV debating with the other the talking heads.
Well she's doing it for us right now and you
can speak to her at eight hundred and four or
five zero seventy eight seventy six, and we take your
phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks to staying

(02:35:28):
with us on this Tuesday Mornder. That guest that doctor
Julian Malvaux. Doctor Malvaux is an economist. As I mentioned,
she was MIT educated economists at that and we're talking
about the government shutdown and Dr Malvaux, you're saying that
it disproportionately impacts the black community. Can you explain that
for us?

Speaker 7 (02:35:45):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (02:35:45):
Absolutely, First of all, people who are toward the bottom
of the income distribution more proportionally affected, and that would
be the Black community. Our average family income is about
thirty percent less than that for our majority trends. So
Number one, if you're toward the bottom of the income distribution,
you're hit by this. How are you hit? As you

(02:36:07):
mentioned earlier, as of November first, there will be no
snaps a supplemental nutrition assistance program off so known as
food stamps. As of November first, depth is being cut.
We know that part of this battle between the Democrats
and Republicans is about health insurance. Everybody will get unnoticed

(02:36:27):
sometimes if you didn't get it by October fifteenth, you'll
certainly get it by November fifteen. Telling you what your
premium will be. Your premium will be higher there was
last year. But the question is how much higher. The
Affable Affordable Care Act subsidies which made it a bit
of easier on people, those have expired, and the Democrats

(02:36:49):
are hanging out to try to get those subsidies increased
or continued, rather not increased, but continued. So that's number two,
and then number three of African American people because of
the discrimination that is rife in the labor market. African
American people are more likely to work for the government
than for the private sector. So when government shuts down,

(02:37:11):
a lot of black folks are shut down. So if
you think about a car we're looking at, we're about
thirteen percent of the overall population. We're about nineteen percent
of government employees. So we're being cut. Now that president
would like to save some agencies. They want to pay
the military. I don't mind the military being paid. I

(02:37:31):
want everybody to be paid. And that's what Congress has
been saying. So we are disproportionately hit. We have fewer
resources to fight back, we have fewer savings. And so,
as you said earlier when you were talking to your
other guests, what we have to look at is the
fact that this is hitting black people from bottom to

(02:37:52):
the top. If you look at Prince George's County, which
is the wealthiest African American county in the United States,
a disproportionate number number of those brothers and sisters or
what government employees, government employees, and so what these are
folks who, if they were living, pay to pay paycheck
to paycheck, which we don't advise but many do. For

(02:38:14):
any number of reasons. You may have trouble making your mortgage,
and then maybe not this month or next month the
month after that, if these folks don't come to sense.
The other thing that's happened, of course, is that this
president has said he doesn't want to in the past
furloughed employees to get paid back pay. He doesn't want
to give them back pay. And so this is not

(02:38:36):
just a temporary hit, which is bad enough, but it
may be a permanent hit for some. In addition to
the fact that we're more likely called to work for
government contractors, in other words, not for the government directly
or for government contractors. Now those folks will not get
back paid by law, they won't necessarily get it. And

(02:38:57):
so my big question this is a rotting questions. Did
those people tore down East Wing get paid and did
they get paid before the air traffic controllers, the student
loan officers and all those get paid? Just a question,
but clearly this set shut down.

Speaker 1 (02:39:15):
Also people too, did Dr Malveaux, the ICE.

Speaker 14 (02:39:18):
People Ice, ICE is gonna get paid. Air traffic controllers
will not get paid, but Ice will.

Speaker 1 (02:39:26):
You can't get on all government workers.

Speaker 14 (02:39:29):
Yeah, but that the Congress and the president have prioritized
some government workers over others. So usually when you have
a shutdown, everybody is shut down. Now he said, well, yeah,
but we want to pay the military. Yeah, well we
want to pay ice. So they're going through in cherry picking,
which is what he said he was going to do.
He said he was going to cut payments on democratic

(02:39:50):
leaning agencies. Well, I don't know what democratic leaning agencies are.
There is no partisan tests for whether you get a
government job. And I'll tell you what he gone after.
He's gone after the arts, he's gone after education. But
you know, interestingly, also he's gone after the people who
basically supervise our nuclear arms, which is the craziest thing

(02:40:13):
I've ever heard. Though don't let me ever say it's
the craziest thing I've ever heard, because when this president
is involved, there's no limit on the amount of crazy
you'll here.

Speaker 1 (02:40:24):
And I got to ask you this, his uh, Donald
Trump's MO is, you know, create the problem and then
come back and solve the problem. I'm the only one
who could solve the problem when I created probably some
sort of syops move. Do you think this is what's
going to happen at some point He's going to come
and say, hey, I solve them. I got them together,
and only I could do it. Do you think that
this is what is how this is going to end.

Speaker 14 (02:40:43):
Well, that's his part, that's his pattern. As he said,
I'm not sure how it's gonna end because the Republems
are they don't they won't talk until the shutdown is over,
and the Dems won't talk until the there's a conversation
about healthcare. So we seem to be at an impasse.
And of course, now you know, he'd go over the

(02:41:04):
Middle Eastern solve problems, but he can't solve him right here,
and that's because he does not want to solve them. Mike,
Little Mike Johnson sent Congress home and former shutdowns even
though there was a shutdown. You know, Congress is still
getting paid. Okay, Congress is still getting paid and in
former shutdowns, and of course mister Trump presided over the

(02:41:28):
longest one in twenty nineteen. So in for people were talking,
people were talking of the IRO, people were making compromises,
people were doing what they're supposed to do as legislators.
This time around, however, Little Mike has a tantrum and
sends the Congress poem to do district works, which just

(02:41:50):
means go on and chill. We'll they'll be meeting with constituents.
I'm not saying that they're doing nothing. But the Democrats
are here. But many of the Democrats are here. I've
spoken to several of them. They're here, they're trying to
come up with a.

Speaker 1 (02:42:00):
Solution, and everybody's trying to figure out a solution too.
When it comes to the economy of twenty six minutes
after the top of the hour with doctor Julian Malveaux,
Doctor Malvaux, prices are going up. Our inflation is coming back,
but we're not We're still on sure of the exact
numbers because the government has been shut down. What we'll
all we know that when we go to the grocery store,

(02:42:22):
the prices have been increased. A gas price is also
going up as well. Is there anything that we can do?

Speaker 6 (02:42:29):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:42:30):
You know, for the folks who celebrate Thanksgiving, because you're
going to pay more for good, should you they buy
start thinking about Thanksgiving? To those who celebrate Quaji and Christmas,
should they think about buying those those products or gifts
now or wait or gambling cases in case they think
the price is going to decline.

Speaker 14 (02:42:48):
Well, first of all, you can't. The price of food
is a price of food. You basically have a relatively
inelastic demand curve for the price of food, which means somebody,
Mama them going to buy a turkey. Whether the turkey
costs two dollars a two hundred dollars, Well, they might
compromise with the chickens. But I mean the people will

(02:43:08):
buy food. People must eat, and they will buy food.
You don't have to buy toys. I think that this
is a good time for us to think about consumer
rism in our community. I think it's a great time
for us to dial it back a little bit. I mean,
we live in a consumer culture, and that consumer culture
is feeding predatory capitalism. So instead of ten toys under

(02:43:32):
the tree, rull it back and have conversation with your
young people about why they're not getting everything they want
because black people never get everything they want in a
racist predatory capitalism is say, but I wouldn't go on
stocking up for stuff, althoughf teriffs will make a difference.
A lot of the junk Ariva called Riva. Martin called

(02:43:56):
me other. She said, why are you calling people's toys junk?
I'm like, it's just a habit. But the bove these
little trap keys. You know, I have two nephews, the gods,
and I traveled a little less that I used to,
but I used to read. When these kids were teenage,
they said to me, what did you bring me back?
And I found you know, you love your kids, you

(02:44:18):
want to hook them up, you know, toy airplanes. And
now at some point I brought me back. Y'all will
need all this since all this classic nonsense that was
made in China. Now that's easier said than don them.
Like I said, we love our kids, but should you
go out and buy up everything. No, you should have
a budget for the holiday and do your best to
stick to your budget and that. Yet I'm not saying

(02:44:40):
don't give gifts.

Speaker 22 (02:44:41):
I like them.

Speaker 14 (02:44:41):
I'll give you my address. You can send me suf
but not really. But but I'm saying, this is a
time for us to be economically, to be fiscally prudent
in our personal lives.

Speaker 1 (02:44:54):
We don't need At thirty minutes at that top down,
you know that there's been a suggestion of not a boycott,
but it's selected buying a black group of starting this.
So I don't know if you've seen this. They're saying
from Black Friday that the weekend of Black Friday, we
should refrain from going shopping over if we're doing business
and do business with ourselves. Is this something that you

(02:45:14):
would support is going to take place?

Speaker 14 (02:45:17):
Absolutely? You know you want a w O L and
you know all the the WL family and you will
play these you play stuff and say we could port
black business, We'll do it. You don't have it again.
I think about the creator of our poor mothers and fathers,

(02:45:37):
who had far more limited means than many of us do,
so they had to be created. I remember years my
parents were divorced and so we didn't have a whole
lot of money. My dad was always generous because that
was his way of.

Speaker 29 (02:45:51):
Showing my mom up.

Speaker 14 (02:45:52):
But my mom was the one who went catch a
big sure of five kids got whatever whatever whatever that
was even one year that she and offended her bited
us sweaters and I kept that. I kept that sweater
Carl until I was an adult, just because of all
the love that went into it. But by im said,
you're not gonna get a lot of toys from me,
but we have these beautiful sweaters that we'll all enjoyed.

(02:46:15):
But we are asking us to go back to go
back to where we are are this morning in my
prayer call we plant go give you that old time religion.
And I'm telling uthers of black people we might need
some old high economics too, because we do not need
to basically purchase everything that's put in front of us
and in the Internet age, once you buy something, the

(02:46:39):
people the suburb writing you, you avatie you over here,
your computer? You know you bought something right?

Speaker 11 (02:46:46):
You need this?

Speaker 24 (02:46:46):
You need this?

Speaker 14 (02:46:47):
What's the We need to distinguish between needs and wants.
And I love the idea of a boycott, or a
selective buying as we like to call it. I love
the idea of us thinking about you know, consumer spending
car or all fueled seventy five percent for the economy.
That's why after September eleventh, President been President Bush, our

(02:47:10):
reporter Askedi what should we do? And he said, go
shopping because our spending fueled the economy. So wouldn't it
be effective for us to just stop spending. It'll hurt,
it'll hurt, but guess what. We're also making a point
back in the in nineteen thirties, they had a campaign
called don't buy where you can't work, and that was
when stores were not hiring black people. Don't buy where

(02:47:35):
you can't work, and so we think when you buy
from certain companies, you're funding your own oppression, and so
we need to think about that.

Speaker 1 (02:47:48):
Yeah, some of my people don't understand that. So I
thank you for sharing that with us. Doctor Malvaux twenty
eight minutes away from the top day Sounder's checking in
from Baltimore Online too, Grand Rising, Sandra, you're on with
doctor Julian and Malvaux.

Speaker 30 (02:48:01):
Ping Riseing car grand Risey, got the Railbow.

Speaker 13 (02:48:04):
Got the Railva.

Speaker 7 (02:48:04):
I love you.

Speaker 30 (02:48:05):
I watch you on everything you come on on TV
anytime I get doctor revol I am sure Brad you
didn't have a gun because you wouldn't be here this morning.
Thank God, wouldn't have a gun because I know what
you would have did with them two on.

Speaker 15 (02:48:20):
Your private property. So thank your art a thousand times
because we need you.

Speaker 14 (02:48:25):
Okay, thank you appreciate that.

Speaker 30 (02:48:30):
Think about I want to ask you a question, what
do you think about the checks that Donald Trump was
giving out this h know him.

Speaker 7 (02:48:36):
The first is that a.

Speaker 30 (02:48:38):
Scam or is this career, is it because he's thinking
about taking Social Security and privatizing. I'll listen and hey
gonna do it.

Speaker 14 (02:48:46):
I love you and keep it going. Thank you. I
appreciate that he's not doing anything for Social Security anytime,
so he's gonna try to.

Speaker 16 (02:48:53):
But he isn't it.

Speaker 14 (02:48:55):
He can do his people his means. Keep talking about
he's gonna give us all the tariff checks that has
to be approved by Congress, and that has not been
done either.

Speaker 29 (02:49:04):
This man's job is obsuscation.

Speaker 14 (02:49:07):
He just wants to keep people confused unbalanced. So don't
believe the hype. Do not believe the hype, and keep
it on and keep it, keep it going, and keep
be in prayer because like I said, I don't have
a dumbit. If I did, there'll be a whole lot
of melon of deficient people who would have met their maker.

Speaker 1 (02:49:25):
Ran Rising Family twenty six away from the top there
with the economist doctor Julian Malveaux. Dr Malvaux just opposed
that these customs we're facing, all the tax credits that
all these corporations, these major corporations have received since the
Trump administration. This trickle down theory has the trickle down
fairy ever worked.

Speaker 15 (02:49:46):
No, it doesn't work.

Speaker 14 (02:49:47):
No, trickle down theory is an excuse for government to
give rich people more money. The theory is, if let's
say this's just called it ex corporation has more money,
they'll hire more people, and that's good for the economists.
But what we saw in the wake of two thousand

(02:50:08):
and eight recessions they got credits, but they didn't hire
more people.

Speaker 13 (02:50:11):
They kept the money.

Speaker 14 (02:50:13):
Not only they keep the money, but the heightened credit
requirements making it more difficult for small and media businesses
to get loans. So that's nonsense that that trickles down
simply doesn't work. I could keep saying that or say
it in different ways, but just trust their bodings. It
is a scam. But this entire Trumble administration is a scam.

(02:50:35):
As we see. I was still trying to figure out
where did the money come from two hundred million or
three hundred million to demolish to eat thing. Now they
say that these corporations have contributed, but I bet you
the degalo was paid for while air traffic controllers are
not being paid.

Speaker 1 (02:50:56):
Twenty six away from the toffee, Tony's checking in from Seattle.
He's online too, Grand rising Tony, are on with doctor
Julian Malvaux.

Speaker 31 (02:51:04):
Oh, yes, grand razing to you both. I wonder, as
Dtor malveow, are the stores that's still are not supporting
DEEI Are they being hit the hardest with this shut down?

Speaker 14 (02:51:21):
Are the stores being hit the hardest?

Speaker 31 (02:51:23):
Yeah? Yeah, the stores and the companies that don't promote
the DEI.

Speaker 14 (02:51:29):
No, In fact, those souls are the driving. They don't
want This administration that has attacked DEI doesn't want it.
I don't think the issue is what consumers are going
to do. I want to give a profound debt of
gratitude to Reverend Jamal Bryant for the toy target voiccott
and we need a lot more of that. But there's

(02:51:49):
no evidence that, quite frankly, anybody is being cut, is
being hurt by their resistance to DEI, and that's unfortunate.
Those companies that do support d I we need to
we need to support them.

Speaker 25 (02:52:03):
There are some thanks, alright, thank you, Tony.

Speaker 1 (02:52:07):
All right, Dr Mavau stay with us. We step aside
for a few months. I'll let you come back. Some
more folks want to talk to you, and also more
about the economy. Family, what are your thoughts about the economy?
Are you concerned? Reach out to us at eight hundred
four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. I'll take
your phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for
rolling with us on this Wednesday, actually Tuesday morning. I'm

(02:52:28):
way ahead of myself. Before we go back to Dr Malfold, though,
let me just get an update on that monster storm
that's ravaging about to ravage Jamaica. It says it's going
to be Melissa, that's the name it's it's be a
category five and it's the winds are gusting of two
hundred and forty one miles per hour. It's never gusted
like that before, never that the winds like that. But anyways,
it's taking a small crawl crawl if you will, cross Jamaica.

(02:52:53):
So it's moving like seven miles per hour. So it's
going real sour. It's good dunk a lot of water
and wind in Jamaica. And when he's finished ravage in
jamaica's gonna get Cuba. As we our guess that Gabriela
Cuban sister before was on early this morning, so that's
where most of the Afro Cubans live in the southern
eastern southern eastern section of Cuba, so they're going to
be impacted too, So keep an eye on that because

(02:53:16):
this is going to be the major story of the
news today and it's going to make a landfall later
this morning or early this afternoon in Jamaica. But I
know we got some listeners down there as well, and
I don't ben people of vacation there as well, so
tell us that you won't know the country when after
Melissa has finished with their work today. So anyway, family,
just keep them in your prayers as we move on

(02:53:36):
throughout the day. Here at seventeen away from the top,
they are doctor Malvaux. We talked about the elections next
week and somebody wanted to I think it was Kevin
to asked a description of what is a democratic socialist?
As you know, Zaron Mundani's leading in the race even
though the race is tightening, so maybe I told him
I'll ask you, so maybe you can help us out
what is a democratic socialist.

Speaker 14 (02:53:57):
Well, socialism, as you know, is about collective and democratic
socialism is a collective. You know, communism is a collective
as well, but democratic socialism has the people's voices involved
in the distribution of the common good.

Speaker 7 (02:54:14):
In other words, who gets the tax dollars?

Speaker 14 (02:54:17):
Who gets this? Now, you know, I used to call
myself a democratic socialist Cornell West and I and a
whole bunch of others of us were a part of
Democratic Socialists of America. Because you're looking at public progressive
public policy. DSA didn't ship with me or I didn't
stick with DSA primarily because my story, that's not my

(02:54:38):
whole story. But my take was that in attempt to
get consensus, people got stuck. I'll never forget a meeting
that started at eight pm and lasted into one am
because people could not agree, and the consensus was everybody
had to agree or you could move forward. And that's
just strangulation. So I'm not quite sure technically what a

(02:55:01):
democratic social music, but basically it preserves the right of
the possibility of democracy but also the possibility of socialism
in other words, shared resources. That's what socialism at the
end of the day is this shared resources. And so
that's what we're dealing.

Speaker 1 (02:55:18):
With there and with what the with the economy is.
And Donald Trumper said of the economy of the country
now is that a good movie. Is that something that
you think people should embrace.

Speaker 14 (02:55:29):
People should at least look into it. Some of the
things that Monami is talking about are good things. As
an example, free public transportation that would lighten the load
on our environment, that would make a whole lot of
things more accessible for a whole lot of people. Although
you know, places like New York school kids can drive

(02:55:50):
the bus free. I think you at the Lace used
to be able to. But I hear a lot of
to you say, well, ken wealthy when you don't. If
you don't discriminate by income level, somewhat wealthy people will
get a free bus ride here or there. That's not
the end of the world if everybody is a free
bus ride. So you know, I think that people need

(02:56:12):
to look at democratic socialism, but also look at just
look at socialism is progressive politics on steroids. So there's
nothing to me, there's nothing wrong with it. I just
have issues with the way the structure of the essay
used to be. And I haven't been in spitting distance
of them in at least forty years, but the way

(02:56:35):
it was structured to me was cumbersome. But the ideas
were vivid and popping, and even the idea of free groceries.
Now people say, how do you pay for that? What
our food stamps? They're free groceries. I don't have a
big problem sharing the wealth. The predatory capitalism is the

(02:56:56):
opposite of democratic socialism. Predators capital said I'm just gonna
take your stuff, I'll take your land, I'll take your.

Speaker 20 (02:57:07):
Work.

Speaker 14 (02:57:07):
And Tory capitalism is the foundation of inflavement, is extracting
people surplus value. Socialism, on the other hand, would say,
let us share the surplus value.

Speaker 2 (02:57:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:57:21):
Thirteen away from the top of doctor Malvau's mentioned, folks
want to talk to you. Linda's online too, calling from Baltimore,
Grand Rising, Linda, you're I'm with doctor Julian Malveaux.

Speaker 15 (02:57:30):
Yeah, uh, Grand Rising. I just want to say that
you know really quick that you are one hundred percent right,
doctor Malvo due to the fact that you know, if
we just stopped that money that they're almighty Jesus, listen,
the world would change in fifteen minutes. You are absolutely right.
I think about it every day. They don't understand nothing

(02:57:50):
but money, that's all. We would earn a respect in
twenty seconds because you know what, Listen, to this. Their
bills are big, huge, they got everything right, and us
black folks, some us ain't got nothing. We can bring
them down to their knees. All we have to do
is you night. And Al Sharpton has said that also.

Speaker 16 (02:58:12):
And it's true.

Speaker 15 (02:58:12):
I know it like I know my name.

Speaker 7 (02:58:14):
They were really hurt.

Speaker 15 (02:58:15):
Nothing else hurts them but money, and we will have
their respect. And listen, if you just got to get
out there and shop, go fill up a cart, come
up too, and leave it in the store, and then
when you finish, go to another store. We got to
bring them down to their knees.

Speaker 16 (02:58:31):
Right, Seriously, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 15 (02:58:33):
That's the only way. When you said to us, said,
thank god, somebody is thinking what I'm thinking. And money talks, right.
They cut that off their guard. They will change overnight.
I know what I'm talking about. I've been in this
world a long time and I made some dogs and
some wrecks and all of that crap, and I know

(02:58:54):
how to treat people, especially when they're doing me wrong.
Take your money and guess what. After you go in
the market and fill up the car, guess what, take
that money, put a jar in your car and put
that money in that in your jar and start saving
your money and have a good laugh too. And why
can't you change? Overnight? There you go, overnight, there you go.

Speaker 14 (02:59:14):
You ain't say, you ain't the word nothing but the
word thank you.

Speaker 15 (02:59:19):
We we have to break.

Speaker 14 (02:59:20):
Ourselves of the change. The change will change the produce
that would change. And when libe that right, go break
every chain, just break every change.

Speaker 15 (02:59:32):
Mm hmm yeah, because they're gonna cut out through every
five seconds down here and and again. That's all we got.
I can't think of nothing else that I'm a good thinker,
but I know that would bring them to their knees.
The whole world would change in five minutes. State the
state if people just did did what you said. I
know it would work. I would state my life. It

(02:59:53):
would work. It would change in ten seconds because money
is the only thing that white folks understand.

Speaker 1 (03:00:00):
Again, I let you go because you're repeating yourself. We'll
get the gist of what you're saying. But doctor malvau,
let me ask you this because we talked about earlier
and I got a sweet question. Were about my question
earlier about that the black group is starting this this
selected blowing buying. If you will starting the weekend of
Black Friday, because Dick Gregory used to talk about this

(03:00:22):
quite a bit, but he says, you can never get
Black people away from Christmas. There's something about us that's
in our boys that they programmed us to believe in
this Christmas deal. So we can never get black people
to do anything to be selected bias when it comes
to the Christmas holiday. I want to get your thoughts.

Speaker 14 (03:00:39):
Well, I don't agree. Our kind of agree, and I
don't agree. I think that we are addicted, confused, and
I think we consume at the drop of perhat. We
consume for Christmas, for New Years, for Thanksgiving Day, for
Valentine's Day. Some people don't even have a boo and
they still buy it on Valentine's Day. Why, in any case,

(03:01:00):
we are consumers. That is the American way.

Speaker 29 (03:01:04):
Is our dollars.

Speaker 14 (03:01:04):
So sister had such a good point about they've worshiped
a dollar. So we have to decouple ourselves over Now,
there's a spiritual aspect of Christmas that.

Speaker 7 (03:01:12):
If we're Christian we all embrace.

Speaker 14 (03:01:15):
But bye, but that celebrating the christ child does that
means spending all your money, That means going to church,
That means getting the friends. Maybe you spend some money
on a meal or something like that. It doesn't mean propagate.

Speaker 7 (03:01:30):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (03:01:31):
And then I confess. I mean, I remember one year
my godchild, I think he turned out, and he had
a Christmas list, and Carl you and I bought the
whole Christmas list for him. His mom said to me,
she said, where did you see all that money? I said, well,
you know, he's my godchild. I want to have a
good Christmas. That's crazy. That was totally crazy, but it

(03:01:52):
was bowing to the predatory capitalist notion that you show
love by spend.

Speaker 11 (03:02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (03:02:00):
So we still have to separate ourselves from Christians. We
have to separate ourselves from Christmas. We have to celebrate,
separate ourselves from predatory capitalism, and then toplicate spending. That is.

Speaker 1 (03:02:16):
All right. I got a tweet couple of two cuss
Why I get this tweet and he says, grand rise
And to your guest. Social Security just announced that cola
will be two point eight percent for twenty twenty six
for retirees and the disabled who get checks from them.
This is a fifty eight to fifty nine dollars more
cola is supposed to be determined by inflation statue. But
the person goes on to say, I am not sure.

(03:02:37):
Can you explain how they calculate the amount? They concluded
medicaire went up twenty four to twenty five percent more.

Speaker 14 (03:02:45):
They have a there's a basket of consumer process index
has a basic basket of goods. I don't know what
it is off the top of my head. There's a
basic basket of goods that people would spend on with
the utilities, blah blah blah blah. I don't think medical
insurance is included. That the government looks at the basket

(03:03:05):
of goods, what it cost last year, what it costs
this year, and that would be the increase the social
security increase. So if you look at the basket of goods,
you may look at it and say, hey, this is
not stuff I buy. But that's how they determine the CPI,
the consumer price index, and then that will determine what
your security social security increase will be. And it's very

(03:03:27):
low compared to us. You say, increasing costs of medical care,
a number of other things, gas, the lean prices up.
That's how they and we give them the fact that
government is on shutdown. I'm not even sure that we
can access the data on the basket of goods right now.

Speaker 1 (03:03:44):
Wow, stix away from the top ed, Doctor Alvau. Another
question for you, Tweter wanted to note Doctor Malvaux think
Defense are going to cut interest rates again before the
end of the year.

Speaker 14 (03:03:54):
I really don't know. They seem to be leaning toward it.
And with the new composition of the said is black. Oh,
it's possible, but I'm fifty fifty on what they're going
to do.

Speaker 7 (03:04:03):
I don't I don't know what they're going to do.

Speaker 24 (03:04:05):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (03:04:05):
This is going to depend on also what people are
hearing or feeling about the just shut down. So that's
that's another factor to take into consideration.

Speaker 1 (03:04:18):
Okay, I'm just I'm just getting all these these tweet
questions for your Dr Malva. Let me see you with this,
one says, ask doctor Malivo. Why has not been Why
why they're not yet being created a mobile online national
black page so we can search and buy black black people,
black business anywhere.

Speaker 14 (03:04:37):
That's a really great question, and it's a great possibility
for one of our organizations to embrace woman to challenges.
There is for us to work collectively around that, but
that would be fantastic. I don't know which organization would
take it on, but there's a possibility. And sister or
brother who raised a question get with somebody and started

(03:05:00):
We've got There are lots of black pages, but it
would be great to have one.

Speaker 1 (03:05:05):
Right I know, brother Saint Klair Skinner as I love
black people, but it's not necessarily for buying. It's just
for helping as well as well as purchasing, but also
goods and services for black folks. And it's global, so
maybe we need to put that more into the forefront.
Doctor Malvaux. I just want to thank you again for
joining us this morning and the information you shared with us.

Speaker 14 (03:05:28):
You know, Carl is always a pleasure to be with you.
I just we go back and I just always been
withcribed many accomplishments and happy to be on the train
with you, on the Black Folks train with you anytime
you need it, you know, I we do respond.

Speaker 1 (03:05:46):
Yeah, I just as you just made me think about
those days where there's the debate you had with Armstrong Williams.
That was some interesting radio family. Those who were around
Dr Malvaux going toe to toe with Armstrong Williams, it
was interesting radio and those of you who know I'm
strong to know how you know contentious he can be,
and how you know with his views and how steadfast

(03:06:09):
he with his views, and doctor Mayrvo also always took
him out.

Speaker 7 (03:06:13):
Thank you, doctor Malva, Thank you Carl.

Speaker 14 (03:06:16):
Have a blessed day, all.

Speaker 1 (03:06:17):
Right, family, that's doctor Julian man Beau. Before we go,
just want to remind you came to the say prayer,
our thoughts for our folks that down in Jamaica and
Cuba and the Bahamas. This storm now, they say, is
worse than Katrina. And most of us saw what Katrina
did to New Orleans and it's going to hit them
later this morning or later this afternoon. Family and classes
dismissed for the day. Stay strong, stay positive, please stay healthy.

(03:06:38):
We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in
Baltimore on ten ten WLB and also in the DMV
on fourteen fifteen WL

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