August 16, 2026 • 22 mins
Navy SEAL veteran Mike Sarraille, who completed 10 combat deployments fighting Islamic extremism firsthand, joins Erin Molan with a stark warning for America: the Atlantic Ocean will not protect us forever.
Mike breaks down the threat of radical Islam, Iran and terrorism, President Trump’s strategy, America’s national security — and what he believes the West is failing to understand about the enemy he spent decades fighting.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 A Navy SEAL’s Warning for America
4:33 Will the Next Generation Defend the West?
7:23 Trump, Iran & Why America Must Stay the Course
10:55 “The Atlantic Won’t Protect Us Forever”
14:40 Extortion 17 & The Warriors America Must Never Forget
Mike also shares the deeply personal story behind Final Flight: The Men of Extortion 17 and why keeping the memory of America’s fallen warriors alive remains one of his missions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everybody's It's one thing for experts to tell you Islamic
extremism is dangerous, it's evil.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It's another entirely for a man who's done ten combat
deployments to fight them face to face. Trust the people
who know experienced it first hand. Mike Cirelli, Navy Seal,
(00:45):
courageous warrior.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
He says, this war.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Has to be won for America, not for anyone else,
but for America.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Don't trust me, trust him. Go Mike Sirelli.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Thank you so so much for joining us here, and
thank you on a much bigger level for your service.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Thank you, I appreciate that. Nia. It's an honor to
join you, having followed you for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Bless you.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You're amazing and your service has been extraordinary. I'd like
to talk to you about a couple of things. First
of all, you, unlike most of us, have fought the
kind of terrorism that we talk a lot about on
shows like this, firsthand, at the coal face, not in
a suit. Can you tell my audience your experience of
(01:38):
fighting this Islamic extremism? And I guess what makes it
unique from other enemies?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yes, so one. It is one of the largest forms
of evil we've ever faced. You know, you look at
previous conflicts, Nazi Germany, the Empire of Japan, evil in
their own right, especially Nazi Germany with the Holocaust. But
(02:05):
when you have a group that is held bent on
the destruction of another group merely because of religious purposes
and the things that we witness them doing, women to children,
let's just say, there's no love loss. And so you know,
you fast forward and having fought against Iranians in two
thousand and eight in a place called Solter City during
(02:27):
the height of the Iraq War, there's no love loss
for that regime, which has no place in the twenty
first century. There is no place for Islamic terrorism, even
in the form that we see domestically with calls for
Sharia law. That is just the beginning. If you don't
nip at it the bud, that problem grows to a
(02:48):
point that we're seeing quite frankly, Europe deal with it
this point. And so hopefully I speak as an American,
we see the warning signals that's going on in Europe
right now, and we take action.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Ten combat deployments in this war on global terror, there
would be I mean, I can't think of anyone more qualified.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Are you a.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Gobsmacked at some of the rhetoric coming out of people
being elected into positions of power in your country? And
is it highly offensive? And that's not a strong enough
word in my opinion, to those who gave their life
made the ultimate sacrifice attempting to defeat this enemy. When
you see people in your nation running cover for them,
(03:39):
almost being apologist for them.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So it seems crazy how far we've come at the
height of the global we're on terror, which is what
my focus was for the twenty years of my career. Sorry,
I have my daughter here.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Please, no, you're a dad, Go go for it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Come this far and thank you? How we've come this
far to where we have people screaming one anti semitic,
anti semitic slogans to to a degree that I never
imagined within our own country, the destruction of the West
and in the foundation of what our country was founded on.
So it's highly offensive knowing that I had great brothers
(04:26):
and sisters in arms that were that would lay down
their life for something they believed in, and the potential
with this country can come in that we've got people
being elected who are anethetical to what this country was
founded on. It it's disturbing and it is not in
(04:49):
remembrance of what people laid their lives down for, for democracy,
for capitalism, for freedom of speech, right to bear arms,
in the socialistic and Marxist theories or platforms. I just
never thought we'd end up in an age where this
is even acceptable.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
There's a lot of talk about generations coming through. I
wrote an article a few years ago when the Ukraine
Russia War broke out, when Russia invaded Ukraine, and I
questioned whether the youth of Australia, my country, would fight
in the same way that my father and grandparents did
when they were called upon to defend their nation. And
(05:34):
I just don't think that will exist because they're learning
in preschool that were colonizers, where racist, that our country sucks.
They don't feel the same pride and love that I
do and that people before us did. Is it a
similar thing do you think in America? And do you
worry about that will or do you still have enough
people with the courage and the fortitude to defend your nation?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
The latter not the former. And I understand where you're
coming from, and let me give you my different perspective
on this. The few have always carried the weight for
the many, the burden for the many. I mean, even
which in church, which the Church Hill said to so
much is owed by the many to the few. And
(06:19):
I can give you from our history. What most Americans
don't know is that only forty to forty five percent
of the colonists supported the war against Britain for our independence.
So that means close to sixty five to fifty five
percent didn't support the war. They would rather live on
their knees than die on their feet. One percent of
(06:42):
our country serves. And let me tell you this military,
even though it's I've only been eight years retired, this
generation is so much better than our generation. They're faster,
they're stronger than more educated, they're more technologically advanced. They
have all the lessons that we bestowed upon them from
the global war and terror. We only need a few
brave men and women to step up for what is
(07:03):
right and to carry the wheat for the many. That's
always been the course of history. And so no with that,
I have no fear that there will always be a
few good men and women that step up and do
it's right. Sometimes that means lay down their lives in
defense of our nation.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I know why that makes me so emotional, but I mean,
you've nailed it. It's so true, and it always really
has been that way. You don't require the masses, do you.
It'd be nice to have them sometimes in all different fields.
But it's why people like you shine and other people shine,
and I know you don't do it for that reason.
Looking at the current, I say predicament the US is in.
(07:43):
Donald Trump, the first president to do something about the
Islamic regime of Iran. Presidents before every single one I've
the last fifty years identified the threat but didn't have
the backbone to act. Where do you see the next
steps going in? And how crucial is it do you
think to defeat this regime for America, not for Israel,
(08:06):
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Or we think of like and I think great great
minds think alike. So yeah, if you look at the
last forty seven years of history, every administration prior to
Trump has either buried their heads in the sand, or
as we say in America, done the heisman and pushed
this down the road and said, hey, I'll leave this
problem for the next administration. It was almost a policy
(10:59):
of appeasement or some bad deal to just prolong the problem,
never attacking the problem head on. You know, war is
a horrible thing, but it's also a very necessary thing.
And we've all heard the John Stuart Mill quote the
only thing necessary for the triumph of evils for good
(11:21):
men and women to stand by and do nothing. We
have a president with a moral fortitude and the moral
clarity to recognize that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon
or aspirations of intercontinental ballistic missiles that would be a
threat not only to Europe, to the regional partners, but
(11:42):
eventually America. And if he didn't do it, no one
else would and the problem would get worse. Now we're
in a predicament, you know. I think we have to
send a strategic message here that our American election cycle
does not trump American will and resolved to do what's right.
But right now the politics is playing in to the
(12:04):
fact that I am disheartened and disgusted by the left.
You know, it's the old adage of politics stops at
the water's edge Iran. If we go back into history
from the Bay Route bombings to the Cobar bombings, to
the American troops they've killed during the Iraq war to
October seventh, in which I believe it was something around
(12:25):
the forty Americans were killed. That is strategic justification to
do this. But right now, I think what is being
discussed in the deal on the table, there is no deal.
It's a bad deal. We have to stay the course.
Trump has crossed his rubicon that die is cast. He's
got to stay the course. And I think that's a
(12:45):
combination of all our instruments of national power, predominantly military,
economic which has been crippling to the regime, and then
diplomatic aligning the region, which the region has a line
to a degree we've never seen in our lifetimes. So
I hope the American people can get behind them so
that he has the resolve to finish what is not
only beneficial for the world but also the American people.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
See now you're stealing my soundbites. We are so on
the same page here. I want to ask you one
of the issues and the problems I think the President
and the administration has, and it's not necessarily their fault.
Americans need to understand the threat and if they do
they will be on board with this, But because of
all the noise, the leftist media, the Democrats, people who
(13:31):
hate America are trying to convince them that this isn't
America's war, that this is Israel's war, it's the Jews,
or it's you know, it's not a threat the Islama
CREGM or our friend. Look, you know they love gaze,
you know, Gaze the Guard or all that kind of stuff.
Whereas the case needs to be made to get your
people on board, and there's too much noise around it.
What are your thoughts on how do you make that case?
(13:54):
And what you just said then like this interview would
make that case.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
So I'm trying to remember the phrase. The further you're
distance from the problem, usually the ignorance increases. You bring
up the gays for Gaza, having watched videos of Isis
throw gay men from a seven story roof that there's
two don't align, and so that's just ignorance. But you know,
(14:23):
for Americans, all you have to do is talk to
the Israeli people on October seventh. You know, the Atlantic
Ocean is not going to protect us forever. They will
eventually come over. It's just time and the world through
industrial revolutions has changed so much that communication is in
near real time, reporting is in near real time, transportation
(14:46):
is global. They will eventually come to our doorstep. And
they're not just fighting the way they fight Israel. They're
fighting through asymmetric means in our own country. You know,
there's plenty with the open borders, plenty of intel that
corroborates that hamas hezbela iro GC, we're all coming across
(15:09):
the border in cells within America. This is real. But
I think America as a whole. And I was just
talking to a taxi driver on the way to the
airport in New York. He said, Man, we've just become
so entitled. We're so comfortable. And that's the point is
we want Americans to be comfortable, but not blind to
(15:30):
the potential risks and dangers that afflict our country or
could cause impact on our country. And so I think
it's just people that don't have a worldly view, that
have never experienced the Middle East or Third world countries
or radical Islam, just don't have enough information to critically
(15:51):
think and make a rational conclusion of their own.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I think you're spot on, and that's true for most
mind you. I look at it a car in Berlin
driving into an LGBTQ rally, and I thought, okay, well,
this is horrific, but at least they will see that
the people they're cheerleading for want them dead firsthand. But
they came out afterwards and said, don't let this make
you hate them more. I wish it was a white
(16:17):
man who did it, but like it's some of them
are beyond reproach, aren't they. They're just beyond help. You
don't even try.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
They view the world through rose colored, rose colored glasses. Yeah,
and you've got to take those all nice though. The
world is a evil or some places of the area,
and some people within the world are evil, and they
are harsh and they're dangerous, and that's just human nature.
You know, America very much is that lighthouse on top
(16:46):
of the hill. And no matter what, no matter how
often you try to extend in all branch, people are
going to hate you by merely for what you've achieved
as people. Australia is the same way radical Islam wants
to take down Westerns. That's a religion that is preaching,
for the most part, the destruction of other civilizations. Now
(17:09):
I don't want to paint in broad breaststrokes. There's a large,
I think the overwhelming majority of the Muslim world who
has assimilated to capitalism and wants nothing more than peace
and prosperity for their family. They're not the threat. But
the Islamic population is so vast, and I've seen figures
(17:30):
of ten to twenty percent have radical Islamic views. That
equates to about one hundred and fifty to two hundred
million people that believe in this fanatical ideology. That's a
problem spot on.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And as someone who grew up in a Muslim nation,
the world's largest Muslim nation, speaks the language fluently, I
can't echo that sentiment enough.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I agree with you entirely.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm going to let you go. I know you're on
dad duties and how busy you are. A final quick question.
You've got a documentary now, a program on Fox Nation
which and I think this is such a perfect example.
It shows the human side behind those warriors who defend
your nation. And even just before we started, your baby girl,
(18:13):
and you know it's so soft and loving with your
little girl, but we send you and those same people
out to war.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But you are humans.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Can you tell my audience a little bit about that
and why they should check that out on Fox Nation?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yes, absolutely so. The name of the documentary is Final Flight.
The Men of Extortion seventeen, most of whom I knew
and were teammates from my squadron.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
These men were what we refer to as Tier one
operators for Australia. That'd be the equivalent of your essays. Yeah,
the most elite warriors in the world, exceptionally skilled at
what they did, extraordinary human beings, high in character, and
they answer to covenant. The seventy fifth Ranger Regiment was
in a firefight in a very dangerous region of Afghanistan.
(18:59):
They called for support. These men didn't debate, they didn't argue,
they knew the risks. They boarded the helicopter anyway anyways
and flew off into the night. And there's this myth
around these men, and they do extreme violence against very
evil people. But Hollywood paints a bad picture of these men,
not their true story. The fathers, the husbands, the brothers,
(19:24):
the sons that were loving, that were kind, that were empathetic,
that believed steadfastly in their nation, and the potential for
what we can become, and they were willing to lay
down their lives for it, and they did and it
was one of the hardest moments in my life and
still is. I wear a bracelet with their names always,
(19:46):
and for the American public to finally see behind the
veil that cloaks these guys, to see who they were
and that they had aspirations beyond service when they retired,
the loving fathers and husbands that they were really paint
them as an exceptional broute that such men can go
down range time and time and time again and come
(20:09):
back a little broken, to kneel by their child's bedside
and kiss them on the cheek or the forehead, to
be there when their child falls, to be there for
their wife or spouse, and time and need. That takes
a very special individual to be able to flip between.
It's almost a dichotomy between doing a very evil job
to very evil people and then being a loving father, teammate,
(20:33):
and husband. And so I'm proud that we could uphold
their memory. Because there's a phrase, Aaron and all end
with this. Soldiers die twice once wherever and whenever they've
draw on their last breath and a second time when
their name is spoken for the last time, and it
just doesn't sit well with me. And so if I
have any power or any platform, I'm going to tell
(20:54):
as many of these stories about our fallen as possible
with Fox because they do it right. Because Fox is
the only network that has ever cared about our troops,
that reports on them constantly, where you know, you've got
CNN that barely talks about Veteran's Day on November eleven.
So we're going to tell us many of these stories
(21:15):
and keep us many of these names alive, not only
for the service members, but for their families to send
a message that they are not forgetting and forgotten, nor
are the families.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I can't yeah, I can't add to that. Brilliant.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Thank you so so much for your service and for
the way you continue to serve not just your nation,
but my country depends heavily on the strength of your nation,
so we thank you so much on behalf of Australians
as well. Thank you, er, thank you, and thank you
to your beautiful little girl for her patience.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
She was amazing. Thank you, thank you and much
Speaker 3 (22:00):
S
Everybody's It's one thing for experts to tell you Islamic
extremism is dangerous, it's evil.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It's another entirely for a man who's done ten combat
deployments to fight them face to face. Trust the people
who know experienced it first hand. Mike Cirelli, Navy Seal,
(00:45):
courageous warrior.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
He says, this war.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Has to be won for America, not for anyone else,
but for America.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Don't trust me, trust him. Go Mike Sirelli.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Thank you so so much for joining us here, and
thank you on a much bigger level for your service.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Thank you, I appreciate that. Nia. It's an honor to
join you, having followed you for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Bless you.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You're amazing and your service has been extraordinary. I'd like
to talk to you about a couple of things. First
of all, you, unlike most of us, have fought the
kind of terrorism that we talk a lot about on
shows like this, firsthand, at the coal face, not in
a suit. Can you tell my audience your experience of
(01:38):
fighting this Islamic extremism? And I guess what makes it
unique from other enemies?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yes, so one. It is one of the largest forms
of evil we've ever faced. You know, you look at
previous conflicts, Nazi Germany, the Empire of Japan, evil in
their own right, especially Nazi Germany with the Holocaust. But
(02:05):
when you have a group that is held bent on
the destruction of another group merely because of religious purposes
and the things that we witness them doing, women to children,
let's just say, there's no love loss. And so you know,
you fast forward and having fought against Iranians in two
thousand and eight in a place called Solter City during
(02:27):
the height of the Iraq War, there's no love loss
for that regime, which has no place in the twenty
first century. There is no place for Islamic terrorism, even
in the form that we see domestically with calls for
Sharia law. That is just the beginning. If you don't
nip at it the bud, that problem grows to a
(02:48):
point that we're seeing quite frankly, Europe deal with it
this point. And so hopefully I speak as an American,
we see the warning signals that's going on in Europe
right now, and we take action.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Ten combat deployments in this war on global terror, there
would be I mean, I can't think of anyone more qualified.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Are you a.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Gobsmacked at some of the rhetoric coming out of people
being elected into positions of power in your country? And
is it highly offensive? And that's not a strong enough
word in my opinion, to those who gave their life
made the ultimate sacrifice attempting to defeat this enemy. When
you see people in your nation running cover for them,
(03:39):
almost being apologist for them.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So it seems crazy how far we've come at the
height of the global we're on terror, which is what
my focus was for the twenty years of my career. Sorry,
I have my daughter here.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Please, no, you're a dad, Go go for it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Come this far and thank you? How we've come this
far to where we have people screaming one anti semitic,
anti semitic slogans to to a degree that I never
imagined within our own country, the destruction of the West
and in the foundation of what our country was founded on.
So it's highly offensive knowing that I had great brothers
(04:26):
and sisters in arms that were that would lay down
their life for something they believed in, and the potential
with this country can come in that we've got people
being elected who are anethetical to what this country was
founded on. It it's disturbing and it is not in
(04:49):
remembrance of what people laid their lives down for, for democracy,
for capitalism, for freedom of speech, right to bear arms,
in the socialistic and Marxist theories or platforms. I just
never thought we'd end up in an age where this
is even acceptable.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
There's a lot of talk about generations coming through. I
wrote an article a few years ago when the Ukraine
Russia War broke out, when Russia invaded Ukraine, and I
questioned whether the youth of Australia, my country, would fight
in the same way that my father and grandparents did
when they were called upon to defend their nation. And
(05:34):
I just don't think that will exist because they're learning
in preschool that were colonizers, where racist, that our country sucks.
They don't feel the same pride and love that I
do and that people before us did. Is it a
similar thing do you think in America? And do you
worry about that will or do you still have enough
people with the courage and the fortitude to defend your nation?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
The latter not the former. And I understand where you're
coming from, and let me give you my different perspective
on this. The few have always carried the weight for
the many, the burden for the many. I mean, even
which in church, which the Church Hill said to so
much is owed by the many to the few. And
(06:19):
I can give you from our history. What most Americans
don't know is that only forty to forty five percent
of the colonists supported the war against Britain for our independence.
So that means close to sixty five to fifty five
percent didn't support the war. They would rather live on
their knees than die on their feet. One percent of
(06:42):
our country serves. And let me tell you this military,
even though it's I've only been eight years retired, this
generation is so much better than our generation. They're faster,
they're stronger than more educated, they're more technologically advanced. They
have all the lessons that we bestowed upon them from
the global war and terror. We only need a few
brave men and women to step up for what is
(07:03):
right and to carry the wheat for the many. That's
always been the course of history. And so no with that,
I have no fear that there will always be a
few good men and women that step up and do
it's right. Sometimes that means lay down their lives in
defense of our nation.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I know why that makes me so emotional, but I mean,
you've nailed it. It's so true, and it always really
has been that way. You don't require the masses, do you.
It'd be nice to have them sometimes in all different fields.
But it's why people like you shine and other people shine,
and I know you don't do it for that reason.
Looking at the current, I say predicament the US is in.
(07:43):
Donald Trump, the first president to do something about the
Islamic regime of Iran. Presidents before every single one I've
the last fifty years identified the threat but didn't have
the backbone to act. Where do you see the next
steps going in? And how crucial is it do you
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Or we think of like and I think great great
minds think alike. So yeah, if you look at the
last forty seven years of history, every administration prior to
Trump has either buried their heads in the sand, or
as we say in America, done the heisman and pushed
this down the road and said, hey, I'll leave this
problem for the next administration. It was almost a policy
(10:59):
of appeasement or some bad deal to just prolong the problem,
never attacking the problem head on. You know, war is
a horrible thing, but it's also a very necessary thing.
And we've all heard the John Stuart Mill quote the
only thing necessary for the triumph of evils for good
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men and women to stand by and do nothing. We
have a president with a moral fortitude and the moral
clarity to recognize that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon
or aspirations of intercontinental ballistic missiles that would be a
threat not only to Europe, to the regional partners, but
(11:42):
eventually America. And if he didn't do it, no one
else would and the problem would get worse. Now we're
in a predicament, you know. I think we have to
send a strategic message here that our American election cycle
does not trump American will and resolved to do what's right.
But right now the politics is playing in to the
(12:04):
fact that I am disheartened and disgusted by the left.
You know, it's the old adage of politics stops at
the water's edge Iran. If we go back into history
from the Bay Route bombings to the Cobar bombings, to
the American troops they've killed during the Iraq war to
October seventh, in which I believe it was something around
(12:25):
the forty Americans were killed. That is strategic justification to
do this. But right now, I think what is being
discussed in the deal on the table, there is no deal.
It's a bad deal. We have to stay the course.
Trump has crossed his rubicon that die is cast. He's
got to stay the course. And I think that's a
(12:45):
combination of all our instruments of national power, predominantly military,
economic which has been crippling to the regime, and then
diplomatic aligning the region, which the region has a line
to a degree we've never seen in our lifetimes. So
I hope the American people can get behind them so
that he has the resolve to finish what is not
only beneficial for the world but also the American people.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
See now you're stealing my soundbites. We are so on
the same page here. I want to ask you one
of the issues and the problems I think the President
and the administration has, and it's not necessarily their fault.
Americans need to understand the threat and if they do
they will be on board with this, But because of
all the noise, the leftist media, the Democrats, people who
(13:31):
hate America are trying to convince them that this isn't
America's war, that this is Israel's war, it's the Jews,
or it's you know, it's not a threat the Islama
CREGM or our friend. Look, you know they love gaze,
you know, Gaze the Guard or all that kind of stuff.
Whereas the case needs to be made to get your
people on board, and there's too much noise around it.
What are your thoughts on how do you make that case?
(13:54):
And what you just said then like this interview would
make that case.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
So I'm trying to remember the phrase. The further you're
distance from the problem, usually the ignorance increases. You bring
up the gays for Gaza, having watched videos of Isis
throw gay men from a seven story roof that there's
two don't align, and so that's just ignorance. But you know,
(14:23):
for Americans, all you have to do is talk to
the Israeli people on October seventh. You know, the Atlantic
Ocean is not going to protect us forever. They will
eventually come over. It's just time and the world through
industrial revolutions has changed so much that communication is in
near real time, reporting is in near real time, transportation
(14:46):
is global. They will eventually come to our doorstep. And
they're not just fighting the way they fight Israel. They're
fighting through asymmetric means in our own country. You know,
there's plenty with the open borders, plenty of intel that
corroborates that hamas hezbela iro GC, we're all coming across
(15:09):
the border in cells within America. This is real. But
I think America as a whole. And I was just
talking to a taxi driver on the way to the
airport in New York. He said, Man, we've just become
so entitled. We're so comfortable. And that's the point is
we want Americans to be comfortable, but not blind to
(15:30):
the potential risks and dangers that afflict our country or
could cause impact on our country. And so I think
it's just people that don't have a worldly view, that
have never experienced the Middle East or Third world countries
or radical Islam, just don't have enough information to critically
(15:51):
think and make a rational conclusion of their own.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I think you're spot on, and that's true for most
mind you. I look at it a car in Berlin
driving into an LGBTQ rally, and I thought, okay, well,
this is horrific, but at least they will see that
the people they're cheerleading for want them dead firsthand. But
they came out afterwards and said, don't let this make
you hate them more. I wish it was a white
(16:17):
man who did it, but like it's some of them
are beyond reproach, aren't they. They're just beyond help. You
don't even try.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
They view the world through rose colored, rose colored glasses. Yeah,
and you've got to take those all nice though. The
world is a evil or some places of the area,
and some people within the world are evil, and they
are harsh and they're dangerous, and that's just human nature.
You know, America very much is that lighthouse on top
(16:46):
of the hill. And no matter what, no matter how
often you try to extend in all branch, people are
going to hate you by merely for what you've achieved
as people. Australia is the same way radical Islam wants
to take down Westerns. That's a religion that is preaching,
for the most part, the destruction of other civilizations. Now
(17:09):
I don't want to paint in broad breaststrokes. There's a large,
I think the overwhelming majority of the Muslim world who
has assimilated to capitalism and wants nothing more than peace
and prosperity for their family. They're not the threat. But
the Islamic population is so vast, and I've seen figures
(17:30):
of ten to twenty percent have radical Islamic views. That
equates to about one hundred and fifty to two hundred
million people that believe in this fanatical ideology. That's a
problem spot on.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And as someone who grew up in a Muslim nation,
the world's largest Muslim nation, speaks the language fluently, I
can't echo that sentiment enough.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I agree with you entirely.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm going to let you go. I know you're on
dad duties and how busy you are. A final quick question.
You've got a documentary now, a program on Fox Nation
which and I think this is such a perfect example.
It shows the human side behind those warriors who defend
your nation. And even just before we started, your baby girl,
(18:13):
and you know it's so soft and loving with your
little girl, but we send you and those same people
out to war.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But you are humans.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Can you tell my audience a little bit about that
and why they should check that out on Fox Nation?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yes, absolutely so. The name of the documentary is Final Flight.
The Men of Extortion seventeen, most of whom I knew
and were teammates from my squadron.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
These men were what we refer to as Tier one
operators for Australia. That'd be the equivalent of your essays. Yeah,
the most elite warriors in the world, exceptionally skilled at
what they did, extraordinary human beings, high in character, and
they answer to covenant. The seventy fifth Ranger Regiment was
in a firefight in a very dangerous region of Afghanistan.
(18:59):
They called for support. These men didn't debate, they didn't argue,
they knew the risks. They boarded the helicopter anyway anyways
and flew off into the night. And there's this myth
around these men, and they do extreme violence against very
evil people. But Hollywood paints a bad picture of these men,
not their true story. The fathers, the husbands, the brothers,
(19:24):
the sons that were loving, that were kind, that were empathetic,
that believed steadfastly in their nation, and the potential for
what we can become, and they were willing to lay
down their lives for it, and they did and it
was one of the hardest moments in my life and
still is. I wear a bracelet with their names always,
(19:46):
and for the American public to finally see behind the
veil that cloaks these guys, to see who they were
and that they had aspirations beyond service when they retired,
the loving fathers and husbands that they were really paint
them as an exceptional broute that such men can go
down range time and time and time again and come
(20:09):
back a little broken, to kneel by their child's bedside
and kiss them on the cheek or the forehead, to
be there when their child falls, to be there for
their wife or spouse, and time and need. That takes
a very special individual to be able to flip between.
It's almost a dichotomy between doing a very evil job
to very evil people and then being a loving father, teammate,
(20:33):
and husband. And so I'm proud that we could uphold
their memory. Because there's a phrase, Aaron and all end
with this. Soldiers die twice once wherever and whenever they've
draw on their last breath and a second time when
their name is spoken for the last time, and it
just doesn't sit well with me. And so if I
have any power or any platform, I'm going to tell
(20:54):
as many of these stories about our fallen as possible
with Fox because they do it right. Because Fox is
the only network that has ever cared about our troops,
that reports on them constantly, where you know, you've got
CNN that barely talks about Veteran's Day on November eleven.
So we're going to tell us many of these stories
(21:15):
and keep us many of these names alive, not only
for the service members, but for their families to send
a message that they are not forgetting and forgotten, nor
are the families.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I can't yeah, I can't add to that. Brilliant.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Thank you so so much for your service and for
the way you continue to serve not just your nation,
but my country depends heavily on the strength of your nation,
so we thank you so much on behalf of Australians
as well. Thank you, er, thank you, and thank you
to your beautiful little girl for her patience.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
She was amazing. Thank you, thank you and much
Speaker 3 (22:00):
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