August 12, 2026 • 21 mins
Tucker Carlson sat down with Hunter Biden — but according to Karys Rhea, one moment in the interview may have revealed far more than Tucker intended.
Erin Molan plays the key exchange before Karys breaks down exactly what caught her attention: Hunter Biden unexpectedly bringing up Yaakov Applebaum, Tucker’s reaction, the history surrounding the Hunter Biden laptop story, and the claims involving Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu and Mossad.
But the conversation quickly becomes much bigger than one interview.
Erin and Karys dig into Tucker Carlson’s political evolution, his relationship with JD Vance, the growing fractures inside the America First and MAGA movements, and whether an emerging political coalition on the populist right could become a serious problem for Republicans heading toward 2028.
They also examine the increasingly strange political alliances forming around anti-Israel sentiment — and what Karys believes they could mean for the future of the American right.
Was Hunter Biden supposed to say as much as he did? And did Tucker Carlson get caught on his own show?
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Tucker Carlson + Hunter Biden?! Erin Reacts
0:42 Tucker Carlson’s Hunter Biden Interview
2:39 Karys Rhea Breaks Down What Just Happened
3:35 Is a New Political Movement Forming?
6:33 Erin Challenges Tucker’s Version of Events
7:18 The Hunter Biden Laptop & Tucker’s “Lost” Evidence
9:19 Why the Name Yaakov Applebaum Matters
11:09 The Israel & Netanyahu Claim Examined
12:17 JD Vance, Tucker Carlson & MAGA
14:51 Where Should JD Vance’s Loyalty Be?
16:14 Could This Split MAGA in 2028?
18:39 The New Political Alliance Karys Finds Disturbing
20:10 Karys Rhea’s Upcoming Book
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everybody's watched.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
There's a bromance. You probably didn't see coming, or maybe
you did. Tucker Carlson and Hunter Biden. And guess what,
ladies and gentlemen, everything that Hunter went through, the laptop,
the whole thing, it's Israel's fault and net Yahoo's fault.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Shocking watch eleven years.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Though I've talked about you, Hunter Biden.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I love Canadas. I do too. I like Thomas Mashey
and Margie Challa Green. I like that there are people
that have kind of woken up.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I have really only one question, one thing that has
bothered me. So I just want to ask you, point blank,
did you drop off lap?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
No? No, the answer is no. I say to everybody, okay,
show me your phone, because I showed you mine and
you didn't find a goddamn thing.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We get approached by israelis connected to Benjamin Nyah, who
were shopping this stuff to me at Fox News. The
way that it entered the bloodstream exactly, American media was
not right.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I don't have any more secrets. Donald Trump, I think
he had such an opportunity. He just decided that all
he was going to do was for himself.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
One of my closest friends wedding off the deep end,
and all of a sudden, Trump's under the bed and
it's like, whoa what.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
It is like he was under my page.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
The thing though, that this is what I experienced during
that time, the allegation that there was abusive miners keeping
on the laptop that came from the Israelis. I'm just
telling you that they came to me with that, so
I know that. And one of the things that enraged
me about the statement from those sleazy Intel guys is
that they blame the Russians for now, maybe the Russians
(01:54):
had a hand in it, but it was the Israelis
who are pushing that fact fact I mean literally to me.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And you know it's.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But they were pushing that so hard and all ready
tell guys are going it's Russia. It's like you lie,
you lie, Because they called me. I sent one of
my producers out to go meet with one of guy
connectors in that Yahoo. They were behind that, and I
felt that everybody in DC knew that. But there was
so much pressure never to criticize Israel in any way
(02:23):
that they were just like, it's the Russians, it's the Russians.
They're they're the ones penetrating our political system. It's like,
you lie, everyone knows what's actually happening. This was my
perspective and it drove me insane. And by the way,
I didn't say that on Fox News. I'll admit it.
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Caris Raya, it is so great to have you back
on the Aaron Mullin Show. You have studied the behavior
of Tucker Carlson longer than anyone else I know, before
it got trendy. What is your reaction to what I
just played that segment with Hunter Biden regarding the laptop,
Russia and of course Israel.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Well, thank you so much for having me back erin.
It's always a pleasure. And I think the most important
thing to understand about this interview before we get into
the weeds, is that this was a laundering operation for
Hunter Bybroen. Okay, he's been prepping to re enter the
atmosphere for a while, Like remember we there was all
that stuff with him during the election, right the twenty
(03:24):
twenty election, and then he kind of disappeared, and now
he's back and he's talking with Candice Owans and Tucker
Carlson and Joe Kent and all these so called America
First Republicans.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Why why is he re entering right now?
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Well, it's because, as we've recently heard, Tucker is starting
a new party right, a new patriotic front with all
of these disaffected America First Republicans like Candie Owans, and
it'll have Joe Kent and Marjorie Tailler Green and Tolci Gabbard.
And the purpose is not to win the election, because
they know they won't, but it's to siphon votes away
from Republicans and MAGA. And in this process, as Hunter
(04:01):
is trying to re ingratiate himself with the public, they
realize that they can benefit from him because he bridges
both worlds and they're trying to bring him back into circulation.
And so why is it important to do this? Because
he has this massive stain behind him that has nothing
to do with all the Barisma stuff and the ties
(04:23):
to China and financial corruption. That stuff is bad enough,
but it's not stuff that sticks with the public as
much as allegations of say, child abuse, rape, rite things
of that sort. This is a substantial allegation against him.
And essentially what you have here is you have Tucker
(04:45):
saying that these allegations are false, and in fact they
are the work of those evil Israelis Net and Yahoo
and the Masade that have essentially stolen in for on
his laptop. It was never dropped off in that you
know repair shop in Delaware, and in reality, for anyone
(05:09):
who has studied this laptop and who was following this story,
including people like Miranda Devine who wrote a book about it,
and she's just probably so outraged by this interview or
her ears, we're probably.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Bleeding the entire time.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
The allegations are substantial, and they are all over this laptop.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Right.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
There's clear and substantial evidence, including direct allegations by by
Haley Hunter, Biden's uh uh former or dead brother's wife
who he then remarried, right acknowledging these allegations, even by
Jim Bye, by Jill Biden, by Joe Biden Bye, by
(05:49):
Jim Biden family communications, showing a coordinated effort to suppress
those allegations. We have supporting imagery of him walking around,
you know, naked, around Haley's daughter, and and there's all
sorts of additional corroborating material, right, And so I mean,
I could go on and on.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
We could get so in the weeds with this stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
But essentially instead of the like you know, Barisma dealings
or the ten percent for the big guy, Tucker knows
that he has to address this in order to essentially
spike that part of the story and make Hunter more
palatable for this new movement, this new revolutionary you know,
(06:31):
uniparty that that Tucker is trying to form.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Here, every bit of evidence you just cited, Tucker is
absolutely aware of. He was as across this as anyone
at the time, and he didn't report it clearly in
an entirely honest way. As he admitted in this interview,
there were things he didn't say on Fox Well because
(06:54):
they weren't true. He is blatantly lying, and we keep
saying this for behavior, And what blows my mind is
that he's lying about things that we can all look up,
even his own behavior and words he lies about. How
does he do that knowing that someone will cut together
a tape of him saying the complete opposite.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Within about three nine NI seconds, because he's going to
be clipping together his own tapes.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Right.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Everybody's operating in these information ecosystems where nobody has the
attention span of more than like six seconds, right, So
he's banking on the fact that we've all forgotten about this,
that we've all forgotten about when Yakov Applebaum approached Tucker
in October before the election and spent hours with his producer,
(07:43):
gave him a USB drive with all of the material
and at the same time sent it over to the
FBI immediately, to which the producer then reviewed it and
said he was going to mail Tucker the USB drive
because he was out on the West coast with all
the evidence. Well, Tucker claims it got lost in the mail.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Right, and and and and so he didn't He this.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Was a story that he chose not to publish because
this would.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Have sank Biden in the election. We all know that
now we saw the polls.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
We saw the polls that said, you know, one out
of every five Democrats said that if they had known
about these this pay for Sleigh and these foreign dealings
that tied Hunter to his father, and the fact that
that that this meant that Joe Biden was essentially selling
out the American people to you know, his his foreign extravaganzas,
(08:32):
then they would have thought twice about voting for him,
and you know, I just I want to mention one
more thing here that's very very important that people don't
really mean that that people might not have gathered. There
was a moment in that interview where Tucker was essentially
blaming the Israelis for planting the story right about sexual
(08:53):
child abuse that that Hunter has been damaged.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
By and.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Response, Hunter Biden essentially says the word Yakov apple bomb er.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
He says apple bomb.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Now, this is a word that Tucker knows that it's
going to make him look very very bad.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And the reason is is because.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Apple Bomb is the person who, as I just explained,
gave the producer the hard drive.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Right now, Arthur Bloom, who worked for Tucker Carlson at
The Daily Caller, ended.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Up publishing very very extravagant hit pieces about apple Bomb,
right and as a result, Apple Bomb sued him in court. Now,
this was going to be a very very good thing
for Tucker, because Tucker was going to build the Apple
Bomb is a Masad agent storyline and sprinking in enough
(09:50):
data points to make it look researched, right, because this
was the guy that fed him a hard drive. So
it's like, look, this is he's really Israeli. He's really massad, right,
and we're not making allegation. He sued Arthur Broom, Arthur
Bloom over the masside allegation, and the case was dismissed,
right because we are under the First Amendment and this
is all opinion and we're you know, darting our eyes
(10:11):
and crossing our teas.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
But the thing is is, Apple Bomb won that lawsuit, okay.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
And Bluem was forced to pay like eight hundred thousand
dollars in damages. It was proven in court that apple
Bomb was not a massade spy.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So God, I just wanted to say the biggest thank
you to all of those who have supported Meir Pinim
since we started talking about the incredible work that they
are doing over six hundred and fifty thousand warm meals
they provide each year. Nothing works the way it used
to in Israel. A lot of people are struggling financially.
A lot of businesses have shut down. In the aftermath,
(10:46):
kids are having to go off and join the idea.
Families are mourning and grieving. Some can't even afford to
feed their kids. That is heartbreaking looking at your child's
eyes and knowing they're hungry and not being able to
do a thing, and this is what mier Pinim does.
I've also received some screenshots from some of you showing
me that you've been giving. It makes me really emotional.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. You guys are incredible.
(11:08):
I love to know that we're helping make a difference.
So if you are able to give, it doesn't matter
whether it's big or small. Every little bit helps. Let
me know, send me a direct message again. Just wanted
to say a massive thank you to everyone.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Going back to what I was saying at the beginning,
Tucker was smart enough not to bring up Apple Bomb
and Sweaty's. Instead, he switched the story to just be
Israeli's Net and Yahoo masade.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But Hunter Biden is such a.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Dunce that he didn't get the memo and he just
said he boarded out Apple Bomb, And you saw Tucker
visibly uncomfortable and a lot of hard swallowing because he
knew he couldn't make that point. So I just found
this whole thing so transparent for somebody who was really
following this story from the beginning, and who read Miranda
(11:54):
Devine's book, and who knows Apple Bomb, who gave him
the hard drive. I mean, this is just such an
unbelievable racket to behold.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
This is why you're the best person to speak to.
You miss nothing, and you make the point as well.
He references Netanyahu twice, and he fades off in one
of those references because clearly he has no idea what
he's talking about, and he knows that what he's saying
is not true. What was the relationship there was? This
one of Netanya who's right hand men?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
No Ya, apple Baum has no connection to Netanyahu with
the Israeli government.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
He he is, I mean he is Jewish? Does that
make him linked? I mean I did see something.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I did see something on on Twitter today like, oh, well,
if he's Jewish, then.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Of course he's connected to the Israeli government. Oh is
that how this works?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Like really, okay, let's play that game with everybody else.
It's like, it's like six degrees here now to Netan Yahoo,
Like can we can we apply the same standard to
every other world leader and every other minority group? You know?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
So, I mean, it's just it's absolutely insane.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
And the courts have vindicated Applebaum on this subject, and
if they hadn't, then Tucker would have meaned him and
he didn't for the reason.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Very very true. Now, now you mentioned the kind of
this op that is going on, and they understand they
can't win, but they can damage the MAGA movement and
all those within it. Talk to me about jd Vance
is that one of the reasons he still tolerates Tucker
and tries to in some ways mitigate damage to his
(13:34):
relationship with Tucker so that at least he is palatable
for that group of people to not try and completely destroy.
Or does jd actually align with a fair bit of
what they believe and will tries to hide it not
particularly well.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
In my mind, we can only speculate.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Nobody knows for sure except jd Vance and maybe his wife,
But I think it could be a little bit both.
I think he could maybe want to remain palatable for
this new movement that's increasingly gaining ground, especially with the
younger generations. Or it really could just be a case
of loyalty and being really indebted to Tucker for his position.
(14:16):
I mean, there were only a handful of people that
are responsible for jd Vance's career, not just his vice
presidency but also his Senate seat to begin with, and
that is first and foremost Tucker as well as Peter
Teel and you could say, uh Don Junior and maybe
even Charlie Kirk, but Tucker and Peter are are are
at the helm here, and so I think, you know,
(14:39):
when when you have somebody who's done so much for
you in that regard, I think it would be difficult
for any of us to just kind of, you know,
publicly publicly denounce them, right, So probably jd Vance, you know,
if he's not on the completely on the side of Tucker,
(15:00):
which he might very well be ideologically, then he probably
is just feeling a little bit of guilt, you know
about you know, potentially having to call him out and
he doesn't want.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
To do that.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
So I think that it's very clear that some of
his views align with that camp. Though I wouldn't ever
go so far as to say, like other people that
Jade Vance is an anti Semi. I don't necessarily believe that.
I think it's possible, but I have not seen the evidence.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I've not seen enough evidence for me to draw that conclusion.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Sometimes there are dog whistles, for sure, but that's about
as far as it goes.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So I mean to answer your question, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I think there are a handful of explanations that we
could attribute to Jade Vance, and I think there are
they're supporting evidence for quite a few of them.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's interesting, isn't it, Because the loyalty thing, I mean,
we all completely understand in every area of our life,
there are people who have supported us, who have stuck
with us three thick and thin. I'd argue with JD.
Vance over his entire career, probably the most significant moment,
well without doubt, would be becoming vice president in terms
of his career trajectory. And Donald Trump is the one
(16:09):
who ultimately made that decision, regardless of who campaigned for him,
and his son was obviously a huge fan and Tucker
as well. But the ultimate loyalty if he's looking to
be loyal to someone I think belongs their first and foremost.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Absolutely, And you can see him really trying to walk
that line, right. You can see him still try to
play to President Trump well at the same time not
having the moral courage to actually disavow the people that
have not only criticized his boss, but demonized his boss
and said things that are so outrageous, like just making
(16:47):
it seem like Trump is some foreign asset, you know,
of the Israelis, or even bringing back allegations of rape,
just thoroughly debunked stuff that all these people were were
laughing or back in the day, and gd vanced cannot
find it within him to actually call these people out.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I mean, it's it's pasthetic if you ask me.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, Look, I'm in a very similar camp to you,
And I think it's one thing to be critical of
a decision that Donald Trump has made, and we should
all be looking at every decision and giving our honest take.
And I don't, you know, begrudge anyone for doing that.
But what Kelly and Tucker and those have done is
just so disingenuous. It's complete hate, and it's the kind
of things you say about someone that you cannot come
(17:31):
back from.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Mind you, mind you.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
JD said some things that I would have thought, probably
can't come back from that. And look at him. Is
now Trump's vice president. So Trump clearly has a different
way of looking at things. Final question, looking at twenty
twenty eight and how this all plays out, and how
this group of just absolute reject losers, in my humble opinion,
(17:55):
how much of an impact will they have or is
this just mores but very little kind of cut through
in the real world offline?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Oh, Aaron, I'm so bad with speculation. I have to
be honest.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
You're right with evaluating your past, not great with evaluating
the present. But when it comes to the future, your
guest is as good as mine. But I do think
that mid the midterms are going to play a big
role in how the the the twenty twenty eight elections
are going to shape to shape out, and I think
that that will be twenty twenty eight will be a
(18:32):
huge reckoning for Americans.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
And I do think this is real.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
We've talked before, like these fractures, they're not astro turf,
They're not all foreign influence like this is.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
This is real.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
It's going on in the churches, It's going on, you know,
in the culture throughout America, particularly with the youth. So
the question is is how much will it sway the
direction of the Republican Party moving forward? And I just
I think anybody who tells you that they know for
sure what that will look on life is just lying.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
None of us know the future. And we know that
polls can be deceiving.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
And I've seen poles saying precisely the opposite of what
each other says, like just contradictory things like one poll
saying that the majority of America, you know, the majority
of Americans don't don't support Israel, are fed up with
Trump because of foreign wars, et cetera, et cetera. And
then another poll like the majority of Americans or Christians
(19:26):
or Conservatives are largely supportive of Israel, largely supportive of
the Iran war.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I've seen it all, so I honestly don't know what
to trust.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well, I'm gonna give you a question that's more based
in now to end on this uprising of these jihavis,
essentially these socialist communists, Islamist apologists, almost Chile. It is
full that are not just getting louder in America, but
are being elected into positions of power. What it drives
(19:58):
me crazy, right.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
I think I think that's one of the most disturbing
aspects of all of this. And I think that actually
does show that maybe the Republicans are a little more
principled in terms of keeping their crazies outside of the
Overton windows because in many of the prime memory, many
of the primaries, the grouper types or the.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Post liberal types have have lost. In our case, we
absolutely do not see that.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
On the other side, like we think it can't get
any worse with the Democrats, and then you.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Have somebody like Alsaieed or Graham Plattner, and.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
You're just like, I mean, I thought we'd reached the
barrel of the bottom, but then there's like fifty layers
of crap underneath that. So so yeah, I think that
that's the The whole Islamist component of this is one
of the most disturbing elements. It features heavily in my book,
particularly with this new brown green alliance that we're seeing
the new camaraderie between these Islamists and the the UH
(20:54):
and the the Tucker right if you will. That's that's
another that we could we could dive into that. It's
like a whole other interview we will.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Get at some stage.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
How can people get your book?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Oh, it's not out yet still, I think when we
first interviewed it, we first did an interview, I'm like, yeah,
my book will be out soon, but no, I've already
missed my second deadline. But I am working every single
day all day on it, and it is really, really
really moving forward, So every single day I get more
excited about it. I do have a step stack now,
but I just haven't because I'm so knee deep in
this book. I haven't really given it much attention. But
(21:28):
if you just google my name Kris raya Stepstack, you
can follow me there and eventually I will be, you know,
putting out excerpts of the book and other content.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Can't wait your legend. Thank you so so much for
joining us as always, and thank you for the brilliant
work that you do.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
This is Thearon Low Show.
Everybody's watched.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
There's a bromance. You probably didn't see coming, or maybe
you did. Tucker Carlson and Hunter Biden. And guess what,
ladies and gentlemen, everything that Hunter went through, the laptop,
the whole thing, it's Israel's fault and net Yahoo's fault.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Shocking watch eleven years.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Though I've talked about you, Hunter Biden.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I love Canadas. I do too. I like Thomas Mashey
and Margie Challa Green. I like that there are people
that have kind of woken up.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I have really only one question, one thing that has
bothered me. So I just want to ask you, point blank,
did you drop off lap?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
No? No, the answer is no. I say to everybody, okay,
show me your phone, because I showed you mine and
you didn't find a goddamn thing.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We get approached by israelis connected to Benjamin Nyah, who
were shopping this stuff to me at Fox News. The
way that it entered the bloodstream exactly, American media was
not right.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I don't have any more secrets. Donald Trump, I think
he had such an opportunity. He just decided that all
he was going to do was for himself.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
One of my closest friends wedding off the deep end,
and all of a sudden, Trump's under the bed and
it's like, whoa what.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
It is like he was under my page.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
The thing though, that this is what I experienced during
that time, the allegation that there was abusive miners keeping
on the laptop that came from the Israelis. I'm just
telling you that they came to me with that, so
I know that. And one of the things that enraged
me about the statement from those sleazy Intel guys is
that they blame the Russians for now, maybe the Russians
(01:54):
had a hand in it, but it was the Israelis
who are pushing that fact fact I mean literally to me.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And you know it's.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But they were pushing that so hard and all ready
tell guys are going it's Russia. It's like you lie,
you lie, Because they called me. I sent one of
my producers out to go meet with one of guy
connectors in that Yahoo. They were behind that, and I
felt that everybody in DC knew that. But there was
so much pressure never to criticize Israel in any way
(02:23):
that they were just like, it's the Russians, it's the Russians.
They're they're the ones penetrating our political system. It's like,
you lie, everyone knows what's actually happening. This was my
perspective and it drove me insane. And by the way,
I didn't say that on Fox News. I'll admit it.
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Caris Raya, it is so great to have you back
on the Aaron Mullin Show. You have studied the behavior
of Tucker Carlson longer than anyone else I know, before
it got trendy. What is your reaction to what I
just played that segment with Hunter Biden regarding the laptop,
Russia and of course Israel.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Well, thank you so much for having me back erin.
It's always a pleasure. And I think the most important
thing to understand about this interview before we get into
the weeds, is that this was a laundering operation for
Hunter Bybroen. Okay, he's been prepping to re enter the
atmosphere for a while, Like remember we there was all
that stuff with him during the election, right the twenty
(03:24):
twenty election, and then he kind of disappeared, and now
he's back and he's talking with Candice Owans and Tucker
Carlson and Joe Kent and all these so called America
First Republicans.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Why why is he re entering right now?
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Well, it's because, as we've recently heard, Tucker is starting
a new party right, a new patriotic front with all
of these disaffected America First Republicans like Candie Owans, and
it'll have Joe Kent and Marjorie Tailler Green and Tolci Gabbard.
And the purpose is not to win the election, because
they know they won't, but it's to siphon votes away
from Republicans and MAGA. And in this process, as Hunter
(04:01):
is trying to re ingratiate himself with the public, they
realize that they can benefit from him because he bridges
both worlds and they're trying to bring him back into circulation.
And so why is it important to do this? Because
he has this massive stain behind him that has nothing
to do with all the Barisma stuff and the ties
(04:23):
to China and financial corruption. That stuff is bad enough,
but it's not stuff that sticks with the public as
much as allegations of say, child abuse, rape, rite things
of that sort. This is a substantial allegation against him.
And essentially what you have here is you have Tucker
(04:45):
saying that these allegations are false, and in fact they
are the work of those evil Israelis Net and Yahoo
and the Masade that have essentially stolen in for on
his laptop. It was never dropped off in that you
know repair shop in Delaware, and in reality, for anyone
(05:09):
who has studied this laptop and who was following this story,
including people like Miranda Devine who wrote a book about it,
and she's just probably so outraged by this interview or
her ears, we're probably.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Bleeding the entire time.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
The allegations are substantial, and they are all over this laptop.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Right.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
There's clear and substantial evidence, including direct allegations by by
Haley Hunter, Biden's uh uh former or dead brother's wife
who he then remarried, right acknowledging these allegations, even by
Jim Bye, by Jill Biden, by Joe Biden Bye, by
(05:49):
Jim Biden family communications, showing a coordinated effort to suppress
those allegations. We have supporting imagery of him walking around,
you know, naked, around Haley's daughter, and and there's all
sorts of additional corroborating material, right, And so I mean,
I could go on and on.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
We could get so in the weeds with this stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
But essentially instead of the like you know, Barisma dealings
or the ten percent for the big guy, Tucker knows
that he has to address this in order to essentially
spike that part of the story and make Hunter more
palatable for this new movement, this new revolutionary you know,
(06:31):
uniparty that that Tucker is trying to form.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Here, every bit of evidence you just cited, Tucker is
absolutely aware of. He was as across this as anyone
at the time, and he didn't report it clearly in
an entirely honest way. As he admitted in this interview,
there were things he didn't say on Fox Well because
(06:54):
they weren't true. He is blatantly lying, and we keep
saying this for behavior, And what blows my mind is
that he's lying about things that we can all look up,
even his own behavior and words he lies about. How
does he do that knowing that someone will cut together
a tape of him saying the complete opposite.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Within about three nine NI seconds, because he's going to
be clipping together his own tapes.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Right.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Everybody's operating in these information ecosystems where nobody has the
attention span of more than like six seconds, right, So
he's banking on the fact that we've all forgotten about this,
that we've all forgotten about when Yakov Applebaum approached Tucker
in October before the election and spent hours with his producer,
(07:43):
gave him a USB drive with all of the material
and at the same time sent it over to the
FBI immediately, to which the producer then reviewed it and
said he was going to mail Tucker the USB drive
because he was out on the West coast with all
the evidence. Well, Tucker claims it got lost in the mail.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Right, and and and and so he didn't He this.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Was a story that he chose not to publish because
this would.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Have sank Biden in the election. We all know that
now we saw the polls.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
We saw the polls that said, you know, one out
of every five Democrats said that if they had known
about these this pay for Sleigh and these foreign dealings
that tied Hunter to his father, and the fact that
that that this meant that Joe Biden was essentially selling
out the American people to you know, his his foreign extravaganzas,
(08:32):
then they would have thought twice about voting for him,
and you know, I just I want to mention one
more thing here that's very very important that people don't
really mean that that people might not have gathered. There
was a moment in that interview where Tucker was essentially
blaming the Israelis for planting the story right about sexual
(08:53):
child abuse that that Hunter has been damaged.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
By and.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Response, Hunter Biden essentially says the word Yakov apple bomb er.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
He says apple bomb.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Now, this is a word that Tucker knows that it's
going to make him look very very bad.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And the reason is is because.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Apple Bomb is the person who, as I just explained,
gave the producer the hard drive.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Right now, Arthur Bloom, who worked for Tucker Carlson at
The Daily Caller, ended.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Up publishing very very extravagant hit pieces about apple Bomb,
right and as a result, Apple Bomb sued him in court. Now,
this was going to be a very very good thing
for Tucker, because Tucker was going to build the Apple
Bomb is a Masad agent storyline and sprinking in enough
(09:50):
data points to make it look researched, right, because this
was the guy that fed him a hard drive. So
it's like, look, this is he's really Israeli. He's really massad, right,
and we're not making allegation. He sued Arthur Broom, Arthur
Bloom over the masside allegation, and the case was dismissed,
right because we are under the First Amendment and this
is all opinion and we're you know, darting our eyes
(10:11):
and crossing our teas.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
But the thing is is, Apple Bomb won that lawsuit, okay.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
And Bluem was forced to pay like eight hundred thousand
dollars in damages. It was proven in court that apple
Bomb was not a massade spy.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So God, I just wanted to say the biggest thank
you to all of those who have supported Meir Pinim
since we started talking about the incredible work that they
are doing over six hundred and fifty thousand warm meals
they provide each year. Nothing works the way it used
to in Israel. A lot of people are struggling financially.
A lot of businesses have shut down. In the aftermath,
(10:46):
kids are having to go off and join the idea.
Families are mourning and grieving. Some can't even afford to
feed their kids. That is heartbreaking looking at your child's
eyes and knowing they're hungry and not being able to
do a thing, and this is what mier Pinim does.
I've also received some screenshots from some of you showing
me that you've been giving. It makes me really emotional.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. You guys are incredible.
(11:08):
I love to know that we're helping make a difference.
So if you are able to give, it doesn't matter
whether it's big or small. Every little bit helps. Let
me know, send me a direct message again. Just wanted
to say a massive thank you to everyone.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Going back to what I was saying at the beginning,
Tucker was smart enough not to bring up Apple Bomb
and Sweaty's. Instead, he switched the story to just be
Israeli's Net and Yahoo masade.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But Hunter Biden is such a.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Dunce that he didn't get the memo and he just
said he boarded out Apple Bomb, And you saw Tucker
visibly uncomfortable and a lot of hard swallowing because he
knew he couldn't make that point. So I just found
this whole thing so transparent for somebody who was really
following this story from the beginning, and who read Miranda
(11:54):
Devine's book, and who knows Apple Bomb, who gave him
the hard drive. I mean, this is just such an
unbelievable racket to behold.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
This is why you're the best person to speak to.
You miss nothing, and you make the point as well.
He references Netanyahu twice, and he fades off in one
of those references because clearly he has no idea what
he's talking about, and he knows that what he's saying
is not true. What was the relationship there was? This
one of Netanya who's right hand men?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
No Ya, apple Baum has no connection to Netanyahu with
the Israeli government.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
He he is, I mean he is Jewish? Does that
make him linked? I mean I did see something.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I did see something on on Twitter today like, oh, well,
if he's Jewish, then.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Of course he's connected to the Israeli government. Oh is
that how this works?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Like really, okay, let's play that game with everybody else.
It's like, it's like six degrees here now to Netan Yahoo,
Like can we can we apply the same standard to
every other world leader and every other minority group? You know?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
So, I mean, it's just it's absolutely insane.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
And the courts have vindicated Applebaum on this subject, and
if they hadn't, then Tucker would have meaned him and
he didn't for the reason.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Very very true. Now, now you mentioned the kind of
this op that is going on, and they understand they
can't win, but they can damage the MAGA movement and
all those within it. Talk to me about jd Vance
is that one of the reasons he still tolerates Tucker
and tries to in some ways mitigate damage to his
(13:34):
relationship with Tucker so that at least he is palatable
for that group of people to not try and completely destroy.
Or does jd actually align with a fair bit of
what they believe and will tries to hide it not
particularly well.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
In my mind, we can only speculate.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Nobody knows for sure except jd Vance and maybe his wife,
But I think it could be a little bit both.
I think he could maybe want to remain palatable for
this new movement that's increasingly gaining ground, especially with the
younger generations. Or it really could just be a case
of loyalty and being really indebted to Tucker for his position.
(14:16):
I mean, there were only a handful of people that
are responsible for jd Vance's career, not just his vice
presidency but also his Senate seat to begin with, and
that is first and foremost Tucker as well as Peter
Teel and you could say, uh Don Junior and maybe
even Charlie Kirk, but Tucker and Peter are are are
at the helm here, and so I think, you know,
(14:39):
when when you have somebody who's done so much for
you in that regard, I think it would be difficult
for any of us to just kind of, you know,
publicly publicly denounce them, right, So probably jd Vance, you know,
if he's not on the completely on the side of Tucker,
(15:00):
which he might very well be ideologically, then he probably
is just feeling a little bit of guilt, you know
about you know, potentially having to call him out and
he doesn't want.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
To do that.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
So I think that it's very clear that some of
his views align with that camp. Though I wouldn't ever
go so far as to say, like other people that
Jade Vance is an anti Semi. I don't necessarily believe that.
I think it's possible, but I have not seen the evidence.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I've not seen enough evidence for me to draw that conclusion.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Sometimes there are dog whistles, for sure, but that's about
as far as it goes.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So I mean to answer your question, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I think there are a handful of explanations that we
could attribute to Jade Vance, and I think there are
they're supporting evidence for quite a few of them.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's interesting, isn't it, Because the loyalty thing, I mean,
we all completely understand in every area of our life,
there are people who have supported us, who have stuck
with us three thick and thin. I'd argue with JD.
Vance over his entire career, probably the most significant moment,
well without doubt, would be becoming vice president in terms
of his career trajectory. And Donald Trump is the one
(16:09):
who ultimately made that decision, regardless of who campaigned for him,
and his son was obviously a huge fan and Tucker
as well. But the ultimate loyalty if he's looking to
be loyal to someone I think belongs their first and foremost.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Absolutely, And you can see him really trying to walk
that line, right. You can see him still try to
play to President Trump well at the same time not
having the moral courage to actually disavow the people that
have not only criticized his boss, but demonized his boss
and said things that are so outrageous, like just making
(16:47):
it seem like Trump is some foreign asset, you know,
of the Israelis, or even bringing back allegations of rape,
just thoroughly debunked stuff that all these people were were
laughing or back in the day, and gd vanced cannot
find it within him to actually call these people out.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I mean, it's it's pasthetic if you ask me.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, Look, I'm in a very similar camp to you,
And I think it's one thing to be critical of
a decision that Donald Trump has made, and we should
all be looking at every decision and giving our honest take.
And I don't, you know, begrudge anyone for doing that.
But what Kelly and Tucker and those have done is
just so disingenuous. It's complete hate, and it's the kind
of things you say about someone that you cannot come
(17:31):
back from.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Mind you, mind you.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
JD said some things that I would have thought, probably
can't come back from that. And look at him. Is
now Trump's vice president. So Trump clearly has a different
way of looking at things. Final question, looking at twenty
twenty eight and how this all plays out, and how
this group of just absolute reject losers, in my humble opinion,
(17:55):
how much of an impact will they have or is
this just mores but very little kind of cut through
in the real world offline?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Oh, Aaron, I'm so bad with speculation. I have to
be honest.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
You're right with evaluating your past, not great with evaluating
the present. But when it comes to the future, your
guest is as good as mine. But I do think
that mid the midterms are going to play a big
role in how the the the twenty twenty eight elections
are going to shape to shape out, and I think
that that will be twenty twenty eight will be a
(18:32):
huge reckoning for Americans.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
And I do think this is real.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
We've talked before, like these fractures, they're not astro turf,
They're not all foreign influence like this is.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
This is real.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
It's going on in the churches, It's going on, you know,
in the culture throughout America, particularly with the youth. So
the question is is how much will it sway the
direction of the Republican Party moving forward? And I just
I think anybody who tells you that they know for
sure what that will look on life is just lying.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
None of us know the future. And we know that
polls can be deceiving.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
And I've seen poles saying precisely the opposite of what
each other says, like just contradictory things like one poll
saying that the majority of America, you know, the majority
of Americans don't don't support Israel, are fed up with
Trump because of foreign wars, et cetera, et cetera. And
then another poll like the majority of Americans or Christians
(19:26):
or Conservatives are largely supportive of Israel, largely supportive of
the Iran war.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I've seen it all, so I honestly don't know what
to trust.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well, I'm gonna give you a question that's more based
in now to end on this uprising of these jihavis,
essentially these socialist communists, Islamist apologists, almost Chile. It is
full that are not just getting louder in America, but
are being elected into positions of power. What it drives
(19:58):
me crazy, right.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
I think I think that's one of the most disturbing
aspects of all of this. And I think that actually
does show that maybe the Republicans are a little more
principled in terms of keeping their crazies outside of the
Overton windows because in many of the prime memory, many
of the primaries, the grouper types or the.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Post liberal types have have lost. In our case, we
absolutely do not see that.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
On the other side, like we think it can't get
any worse with the Democrats, and then you.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Have somebody like Alsaieed or Graham Plattner, and.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
You're just like, I mean, I thought we'd reached the
barrel of the bottom, but then there's like fifty layers
of crap underneath that. So so yeah, I think that
that's the The whole Islamist component of this is one
of the most disturbing elements. It features heavily in my book,
particularly with this new brown green alliance that we're seeing
the new camaraderie between these Islamists and the the UH
(20:54):
and the the Tucker right if you will. That's that's
another that we could we could dive into that. It's
like a whole other interview we will.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Get at some stage.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
How can people get your book?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Oh, it's not out yet still, I think when we
first interviewed it, we first did an interview, I'm like, yeah,
my book will be out soon, but no, I've already
missed my second deadline. But I am working every single
day all day on it, and it is really, really
really moving forward, So every single day I get more
excited about it. I do have a step stack now,
but I just haven't because I'm so knee deep in
this book. I haven't really given it much attention. But
(21:28):
if you just google my name Kris raya Stepstack, you
can follow me there and eventually I will be, you know,
putting out excerpts of the book and other content.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Can't wait your legend. Thank you so so much for
joining us as always, and thank you for the brilliant
work that you do.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
This is Thearon Low Show.
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