December 3, 2025 • 43 mins
In the show's final hour, Kyle discusses whether or not Carolina should exercise the 5th year option, and why it could be better to just go ahead and give him the option this offseason.
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good listen. I can't get back to all the stuff
that's on the text line right now. The whole six
to seven things run its course probably three times over.
But somebody asked an interesting question. I think it was
Juice Box. He said, he's the same age as me.
We're both forty were men. He said, what was our
version of six y seven back in the day. The
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overwhelming favorite on the text line seems to be suck
It by DX in the WWF.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It's a pro wrestling thing.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
If you don't get it, you probably still get it
because everybody was running around chopping back in the day.
You probably saw it, but I'm not even sure I
think that's the equivalent. But the fact that so many
people do is hilarious on the text line. So we
got waylaid with that. I also got a few Texters
hit me up and said, KB, just jumping in. Have
you guys talked about the Bryce Young fifth year option news?
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And I want to reiterate again, that is not a
report from Dan Graziano. It's not a report that the
Panthers are about to pick up Bryce's fifth year option.
What he wrote in his I guess it was a column.
I've seen the screenshots, that's it. What he said was
he expects them to pick up the fifth year option
for Bryce Young. So I just want to point that out.
It's an ongoing conversation with us already, but that is
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not a report. It's Dan Graziano, who was in Charlotte
covering the Panthers' Rams game on Sunday, saying, you know,
he expects the Panthers to do that. I would guess
our next I would guess that our next guest, easy
for me to say, probably thinks.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
He's here to talk about a lot of football. Roman Harper,
two time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion, SEC net Work
analysts back with us for his Wednesday conversation, Roman, what's
going on, buddy?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
KB?
Speaker 5 (02:05):
What's good?
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
In Birmingham watching my daughter play basketball on the phone
and got off to talk to you guys.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
That's awesome. How's it going You winning?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Well, yeah, they're winning. They're being Myers Park pretty good
right now, the JV team, So it's so good. A
lot of mistakes made on both teams, but I was watching.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
It's fine.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
It's you know, I've been in Alabama for covering Alabama's
signing day today. That's a big thing. That is now
in December, when it used to be in February, and
I remember they everybody used to send in faxes and
when you got that sign that paper early in the
morning on sinning day. And now you can only know
it's real when the players put out a post on
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Instagram or x or x and to let you know
where they're going. Before that, you have no idea.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, so wait, I don't want to get in a
rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So you're in Birmingham, Alabama, watching your daughter play from
Myers Park.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Huh that's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Yeah, well she's that Providence Day playing against Myers.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, alapasa.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Now man, nowadays you can watch the games from you.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Know, anywhere in so I thought you were watching them
play live and Smoke and I were both very confused
when I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Oh no, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's okay, it's okay. I thought that was cool though.
All right, I'll just start with the Bryce young thing
real quick, because they just beat the perceived best team
in the NFL on Sunday in the La Rams. Bryce
played well, they ran the ball well, They were so
shorthanded defensively, with no JC Horn, no Trayvon Merrick, missing
a starting linebacker, and they still beat the best team
in football on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
What did you think about it?
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I really didn't watch the game, but the highlights that
I saw because they actually affected the quarterback. They got
at to Matt Stafford, big Brown up front, get the
sack fumbles towards the end of the game. To really
still it. I thought, you know, nobody's playing better than
that young man right there upfront, and I'm glad he's
getting all the flowers and everybody's notice him, especially have
to come off the injuries and missing so much time
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last year. So it's just really good to see when
you're top round pick or starting to payoff. You can
say the same thing about Terroll McMillan. Bryce young the
last three or four years, it's been really really good
with some of these first round picks. And when your
young guys are starting to understand what it takes to
win games, they're going out there and performing at a
high level.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
This is all positive.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I just remember, Kyle, remember this has been a journey
with us on these Wednesday calls, week in and week out.
They win one, they lose one, they win a big one,
they lose a terrible one, and you cannot ride the
emotions of the fans. You just can't. I've been telling
you all year. It's a long season. This team still
has a chance into the playoffs. That said that, after
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everybody was so on Bryce after the terrible performance way
he threw for just the hundred yards. Now he comes
back and they're putting up stats about him, you know,
having the most comeback wins at the earliest age. And
he also threw for four hundred yards, a team record.
And so you're gonna deal with the ups and downs
when you're dealing with a young team that has not
had anybody on this team that is at any type
of winning at a high level for this organization specifically.
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So it's been a really good action see them competing.
Everybody had taken a bonus of, you know, ownership of
their mess ups. But when they're also doing good, let's
praising and love on them too. So really big win
by this Panthers team, and ultimately they're exactly where they
want to be at and that's actually in a position
to maybe make the playoffs by winning the division.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So before I get back to college football then, I mean,
it's Dan Morgan's decision ultimately, and they have until May
to do it. To me, it's a no brainer. I'm
picking up Bryce's fifth year option. You don't have to
do it today, but like I'm automatically personally picking up
his fifty year option by the time that made deadline
rolls around. I mean, he's going into the final four
games of year three, just a second year with Dave Canalis,
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They're getting better as an organization. I'm picking up the
fifth year option right now, without question. How do you
feel about that?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, of course, because two questions if you don't pick
up the option is who else you're going to go get?
Because you're not going to have a extremely high drafted
the quarterback situations coming out are not going to be
great the next year. In my opinion, I think the
best players in the draft coming up will not be
quarterbacks to it be other positions. And you can probably
say that for the year after as well. The classes
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are very hid and miss. And then so if you
want to restart that, I mean, that's one decision. But
then also if you don't do the fifth year option
and he does play well next year, it's going to
cost you a lot more. So at least you have
the fifth year options to hold on to players. That's
what it's. You have it for the first rounders that
have been really good for the own organizations, to give
you more time to figure out the right number to
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pay them when it is time if you make that decision,
which when you got a quarterback, you got a chance.
And right now bright Shund is playing well. It hasn't
been perfect, but he is playing well for this team.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Roman Harper hanging out with us here for a Wednesday conversation.
All right, college football rankings last night. I'm going to
start with Alabama with you because I know Alabama's a
good team. You know they're a good team, But there
are a lot of folks once again upset last night
with the Committee because it felt like they gave Alabama
sort of a built in excuse if they lose the
SEC title game, and that the Committee kind of protected Alabama,
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you know, and gave them a mulligan, if you will,
based on the way they were ranked last night. And
I want to be clear to you because you and
I've had a lot of these conversations over the years.
To me, there's a lack of consistency issue with the
Committee overall. It's never just about Alabama because there are
a lot of things you can question with what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
But what do you think about the folks that look
at what.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
They did last night, move Alabama to nine, Notre Dame ten,
and people saying that this is the this is the
playoff politics to drive people crazy.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Well, if you mad at that, why I was the
only four lost team in the top twenty five. And
that's the prop up the ones in the big ten
that they got at the top. And so it's not
just one thing or the other, Kyle, and you know, Alabama,
that's the easy target because people love that thinking about Alabama.
But I asked the same thing, Okay, well, why are
they head of Notre Dame. Now their resonate has been good.
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You can put them in front because they win on
the road to versus Oliver, who the outsider say is
a bad team because their record isn't that good. And
so what did Alabama do this past weekend that made
them all of a sudden now jump ahead of them
when they should have been ahead of Notre Dame from
the start. And so you're talking about making excuses or
giving people the out. The people that's getting out is
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the committee, not Alabama. Alabama's not getting out. They deserve
to be there or hired since day one. It's the
committee that's all of a sudden showing you guys these
things to say, Okay, well it justifies this because they
ultimately are the ones that want to be right. I
don't think you give Alabama any brain or you know,
say that they're getting unfair treatment. They should have been
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there since to jump the fact that they just put
them there. Now you can blame the committee because the
committee's already setting up in Telliviu. Who they feel is where.
Listen to what they say weekend and week out last
week versus when Oregon beat USC they said, you know,
Oregon finally beat a team that in play how we
expected them to be until we were able to put
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them where we wanted them to be the whole time.
That tells you everything right there, So you know you
have to listen to the words that they say. And yes,
it is ultimately some sort of bias, I believe it is,
but hey, what can I do about it. I'm not
going to complain because my team is actually one of
the ones that usually are playing well and are usually
good enough to get into the playoffs when they deserve it.
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I was the first one to say that they didn't
deserve it last year. But the other thing is they
put them there, Kyle, because ultimately, if Alabama does lose,
I still think they would deserve to be in because
you can't. You didn't punish SMU for not winning the
the ACC Championship game last year, now or not. Everybody
was mad then, and so now Alabama loses the Georgia
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and SEC championship, which I don't believe will happen, and
that gives them credits to say, Okay, well we can't
punish Alabama. It will be the first time you get
a three lost team into the playoffs it was a
third loss in the SEC Championship, where they have the
number one ranked team in the SEC. I know we
don't look at as rankings, they're not number one, but
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if you look at the standings within the SEC, Alabama
is the number one team in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So it's funny. You'll appreciate this. One of our listeners,
one of your members of Role Todd Nation, Dono, the
Bama fan, just told me Notre Dame hasn't played any
hard teams. Grow up, KB, She just told me to
grow up. I mean, I'm not I'm not arguing against
Notre Dame. I'm not even arguing against Alabama. I'm not
even arguing for Notre Dame. In fact, I've been arguing
for Miami in this and I hate that. It tastes terrible.
(10:37):
I hate Miami, but I gotta argue for him. And
what I'm bringing up here is like, you're you are
a competitor. Okay, I don't think you have to have
played sports at the highest level to be a competitor,
but you are, and you did. And it's been maddening
to me to watch this committee act as if that
Notre Dame Miami game didn't happen in week one, and
they've been acting as if that head to head data point,
you know, has somehow been devalued. But then at the
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same time last night, browman, uh you got Texas leapfrogging
Vanderbilt because they have the head to head advantage over them. Like,
I think we're in a really dangerous spot here if
if they start making decisions that devalue head to head competition.
And maybe we're already there. But as a former player,
that has to bother you, right.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Uh, it does.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
But you know, a couple of weeks ago, I would
have said, Lord James playing better than Miami, so I
kind of understood it. But and I don't think they
want to be beholden to just like, oh, well that
team beat them, so they just nottually have to be higher,
even though you know, they've played multiple games since then.
I would also say I would also encourage and to
go back to my Alabama fan. That's with me, Kyle.
They didn't like the tone and with the question was
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that so I agree with them, you know, check yourself,
check yourself, and so it's so, you know, so I'm
not mad at the committee for you know, I'm more
mad at the ACC. Okay, how do you not have
Miami in the ACC championship game? It makes zero sense
for them to be the probably clearly the best team
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in your conference and they're not in. It doesn't make
any sense at all. And if Duke wins this game,
pandemonium for the ACC will happen. And so everybody needs
to be rooting for Virginia to win this game. And
I with all due respect to the Duke fans, just
because the conference will not be represented in the correct
way if that happens, because now it's just so many
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other things that can happen. And I don't know, Kyle,
the whole playoff things is just weird because you're telling
me that Tu Lane was ranked the twenty fourth best
team in the country. But because if they want a
certain conference or whatever that was. And I like everybody
there at two Lane, that's in my own, my old
backyard and my old stomping grounds in New Orleans. But
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if you put them out the twenty four team, then
you put them in a twelve team playoffs. You know,
I'd rather you lie to me and just put them
higher or something to make it at least justifiable. And
so These are the things that bothers me about the
whole quote unquote committee thing, because it's never as clean
and understanding as possible. And you can't tell me it
takes me all week long to watch sixteen or eighteen,
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nineteen twenty games, and you're telling me that all these teams,
all these people that are great and needs have watched
twenty something games. It's just, you know, so everybody's looking
at certain things and taking everybody else's advice about who's
better than who. And I think that's what you're running into.
And it's not fun. It's stinks, honestly, But this is
where we're at right now, and I don't think it's changing.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And listen, I'm gonna let you save your predictions for
your your actual day job with the network. So I
want to ask you about Georgia Bamma. Necessarily. I am
curious though, because this is already an epic coaching cycle
with all kinds of jobs being vacated and filled and
everything else. So far, we have what Ryan Silverfield to Arkansas, Arkansas? Yeah,
we John Sumrall headed to Florida abroad.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
We played in the same all Alabama missed the All
Star Game coming out of high school. Did you really
shout out John Summer. Yeah, we've been homies for since
high school. Washington play at Kentucky, Auston coach at Kentucky.
Watched them go to Troy, which my brother went to
rooted for and talked to him then, and then watched
him go to Tulane. You know, it's in my old backyard.
Big fan of this guy.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Man. He played safety.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I actually played corner in the game together. So he
was a safety, I was a corner. He moved the linebacker.
I moved to safety.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Back in the day, that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
No, that's cool man.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So Summer on Florida, Alex Golish at Auburn, Ryan Silverfield
at Arkansas, Will Stein who is headed to Kentucky. Former
Louisville quarterback godly enough. Any of those stand out to
you as particularly impressive or guys you think will succeed.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Well, you know I already talked about John summerl for me,
Alex Golis brings a great idea of what they want
to do offensively. They you know, he was Tennessee's quarterback
offensive coordinator under Josh Eipel, So under that hyphol system,
So they're gonna spread rouse, they're gonna throw it all
over the ballpark. You want to build to score points,
but we'll have be able to continue to get enough
stop and can Auburn not implos That would be the
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other question mark with that one. The other one is
I like Silverfield at Arkansas because he's a He's won
a lot at Memphis. Okay, not only that, but Memphis
is very close to Arkansas, so he's used to recruiting
in that area. And you know, it's just similar doing
a lot with not as much money. I know Sedex
money is good. I just don't know if this is
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as good as Walmart, Entyson, Chicken money. So now you
have a little bit more resources in your pocket. Can
Arkansas build upon that and also recruit the state of Arkansas,
get the ones that have are talented in that state,
lock them in, and then be able to go to
across the borders of Texas, Tennessee over there by Memphis
and a couple other places Mississippi, Louisiana and get some
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of these players because ultimately that's.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
What it's going to have to take.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
And can you stop turn the football over? They have
to have a mindset switch at Arkansas if they want
to be able to compete and win games at the
highest level, because in the SEC there are no byleas well.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Listen, I'll let you go. I know you're busy.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I want to let you watch your daughter play basketball,
but I do want to let you know that I'm
very excited for a year from now talking about James
Franklin and the Hokies. They're seeding in the playoff. I mean,
my man has taking the recruiting class from one twenty
one to twenty two in a span of a week,
so we coming wet.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I saw that he was very excited about that. I
saw him doing some things and look, man, you should improve.
I'm not gonna say that much. That's a huge jump,
all right, but you should improve when you're not having
a coach at DAM and all you're doing is focused
on recruiting. And James Franklin is a hell of a recruiter.
Everybody's known that about him since day one. So congratate you,
man in your hokey Because I saw Virginia walk the
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dogs with him. My son was watching the recare that morning,
so I apologize about that.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
KB yeah, you sound really to me.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
My team beat Yeah, my team beat our rivals. So
you know, like you said earlier, man, that degenerates the
next man. Such, that's whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Wow, you and Donna the Bama fan are really frigging
sensitive today, Mike. I was just being playful and I
took strays there at the end. All right, buddy, enjoy Alabama.
We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Thanks, KB, be good man by smoke there you go.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I mean, I mean, wow, Donna told me to grow up.
I'm a man, I'm forty. I don't need to grow up.
I've done grown up. I'm here, I'm arrived. You love
that you get to say that for like three hundred
more days I do. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say
it's on forty nine. I got, of course I am.
I'm a man, I'm four. She was like, good not
to day. I ain't play nobody, KB.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Grow up?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Like there wasn't my point to go after Alabama by
the way, to beat USC that was a pretty big win.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah all right, seven oh four, five, seven ninety six, ten.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Now next your your schedule is gonna be very soft.
But for this year, yeah soft, very soft, all right,
we'll come back. We'll take your phone calls. US Marine Corps.
Dave gets the first one. I got a couple of
phone lines open. We can talk Panthers, we can talk Hornets,
we can talk acc SEC Challenge, we can talk college football.
We'll take your phone calls. Next Sports Radio ninety two
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Speaker 3 (17:51):
Alright, what you want to do when you grew up?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
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want to mention and of course send our condolences out
to the family and friends of Elden Campbell who passed
away last night at the age of fifty seven. This one,
this one shocked me. This one floored me. Listen, people
pass away all the time, but I hadn't thought about
Elden Campbell in a long time for obvious reasons. But
it was only fifty seven years old. Fifteen year NBA
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career from nineteen ninety to two thousand and five, of course,
remains Clemson's all time leading scorer with one eight hundred
and eighty career points. Also ranks among Clemson's leaders in
blocks and rebounds. Helped the Tigers to their only regular
season ACC championship back in the eighty nine to ninety
season and to a Sweet sixteen appearance in the NCAA
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Tournament that year, and was later inducted into the Clemson
Hall of Fame. First round pick twenty seventh overall by
the Lakers in nineteen ninety, spent the first nine seasons
of his career with LA and then after LA went
on to play parts of you know, the rest of
his career. I should say with the Hornets, the SuperSonics,
the Pistons. It's funny he played for the Charlotte Hornets,
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the New Orleans Hornets, the Seattle SuperSonics, the Detroit Pistons,
and the New Jersey Nets, and how many of those
teams aren't things anymore. But Eldon campbell Man never became
a perennial All Star. But man, he was tough. He
was reliable, reliable starter for a lot of agains. I
mean he was the opposite of flashy. But he was
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like just a calm, steady presence, really well respected around
the NBA, carved out a really long and substantial career
as basically a glue guy. I mean it was a
lot of things, but you know, he was a glue guy.
He was a steady Eddie. He was a pro there
in the middle. And he came over to Charlotte, by
the way, in case you don't know, or maybe for
good or you were young, March nineteen ninety nine, came
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over in the Eddie Jones trade with the Charlotte Hornets.
Well it was actually referred to at the time as
a Glen Rice trade. Yeah, it was a big trade
because this is the Bob Bass Pascal. That's how Hornets
were able to stay consistent because they got Bob Bass
to make all those trades, and he was able to
find good players to come in return. They traded Glenn
Rice Jr. Reid and bj Armstrong two the Lakers. I
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know Glenn Rice won the ring, but like if you
look at what they did for the team, the Hornets
got a better end of that deal because they got
Eddie Jones and Elden Campbell. And if you look at
his stats offensively, some of his best offensive years in
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
We're in Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
We're here in Arlotte with those early two thousands teams
that almost made it to the Eastern Conference Finals before
they ran into the Bucks in Game seven. But as
you mentioned, he played in Detroit. He was the starting
center I believe, or one of the key Coggs coming
off the bench when they won the title in four
against the team three or four. Yeah, yeah, against the Lakers, yep,
sure was. And you're right, his watershed or his what's
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what's the word. I'm looking for his career high in
points per game, Hi, Mark, thank you. His high watermark
was in nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine, the year. He
was traded from the Lakers to the Charlotte Hornets fifteen
and nine that year, and then the nical lockout shortened
year yep. The next three years in Charlotte averaged thirteen
and seven, thirteen and eight, and nearly fourteen and seven
as a member of the Charlotte Hornets. But Elden Campbell
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passing away at the age of fifty seven really really
sad news. You know, all the best of his friends
and family. Seven oh four, five, seven oh ninety six
ten hit us up on the fan duel text lot.
Let's take a couple of phone calls here US Marine cor.
Dave is up first here in this segment, Hey, what's
going on, buddy?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (22:02):
How's it going guys?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Good?
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Hey? So two things I want to talk about.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Price is fixed, fifty year option and six seven.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
So we'll start with six seven.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
My two children have explained to me that six seven
is like a little better than mediocre.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
You're not a five.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
You're not an.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Eight or six or seven.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Now we go to Bryce.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Is he a four or five?
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Probably not? Maybe is he at eight or nine or ten?
Probably not. Maybe he's somewhere around six or seven on
a scale of.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
One to ten.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So now you look at this fifth year option.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
The fifth year option says I can bring a player
back at an I air quote and NFL economical price,
because I understand that might be a gazillion dollars, but
an NFL economical price for a fifth year first round
draft pick without paying a ton of money. So what
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do you do in price?
Speaker 8 (23:04):
Is he a four or five?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Is he a eight, nine, ten? I'm not sold on
that either he's just six or seven?
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Do we bring him back?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
I don't say you don't. I mean, if you go
look elsewhere for his fifth year for what you're gonna
pay him, where are you gonna go?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's it?
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Where are you gonna go?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Where you're gonna go?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That's and I know that's not a good enough reason
to do things always, but like, if we're being honest.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
About it, it is in this situation.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And if you look across the NFL right now, can
we be honest about quarterback playing the NFL these days?
It ain't great right now, you know what I mean?
Like it's not consistent, it's not great in most places.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Kyle, you can be a horrible quarterback and make a
bazillion dollars. Sure, you can be a great any other
position and make a whole lot less, but a mediocre
quarterback can make a bazillion dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, I hear you appreciate the phone call, buddy, So
I was thinking about this too. Jaguars gave Trevor Lawrence
what a five year, two hundred and seventy five million
dollar extension last summer, right summer of twenty twenty four.
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I don't know, like, I'll let Chris Long how about this?
Let's let Chris Long talk about this on his podcast
what's it called again? The green Light Podcast?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Is that right?
Speaker 9 (24:29):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And by the way, his former Virginia teammate Nate Collins
as his co host.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
Right yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
He and Nate Collins they start talking about Bryce Young,
comparing him to Trevor Lawrence and asking the question, if
you swap quarterbacks, which team would be better?
Speaker 9 (24:43):
These teams are very similar, whereas when you ask about
them you get the same answer. Do you think the
Jags are going to make the playoffs? I don't know
if they make the playoffs? Do you think they win
a game the Panthers? Do you think this.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Let's get to the heart of the question at hand,
is which quarterback would.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
You w I was just going to ask you, I
wouldn't look at my eyes. It's one of those things
where if I really sit down and think about it,
if we swap quarterbacks, how much better or worse are
these teams?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I think that I think the Jags would be. I
think the Panthers are way worse.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I just think the Jags are better or better.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And I say that with respect to who is was
a fantastic college quarterback and has at times been a
good pro quarterback. And I got no problem with his character,
nothing like that. But I just don't I don't see it,
and I see something with Bryce and maybe his leash
is longer because the run on him has been shorter.
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But I would love to see them really actually build
around them and that's what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I want to know what people think about that.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
That is former Virginia defensive End, Eagles defensive End Super
Bowl champion. He played for multiple teams, but Chris Long
on his podcast Fare for Long with Nate Collins, saying
that if you swapped Bryce Young and Trevor Lawrence that
Bryce would make the Jaguars much better, and that Trevor
Lawrence would make the Panthers worse. Like, how many people
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agree with that? Seven oh four five, seven oh ninety
six to ten. I'd love to know. And Trevor Lawrence
for a while there in these conversations was the guy
that we often talked about when we tried to, you know,
figure out who Bryce Young was in the NFL and
more along the lines of what have they done so far?
What's the career progression been? Look what the Jaguars are doing.
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They've had multiple head coaches. They went from Urban Meyer
to Doug Peterson to Liam Cohen. Right, the Panthers have
gone from Frank w Reich to Dave Canalis. We understand how
it all works, yes, But like I mean, that's I
was surprised when there seemed to be like almost universal
agreement at least in that conversation that, oh, yeah, Bryce
makes the Jaguars way better and Trevor makes the Panthers worse.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I mean, just to fit.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Without hesitation, Bryce makes the Jags better, Trevor makes the
Panthers worse. You agree with that, right? You do your
thing over there? Seven oh four five s ninety six ten.
Let me see what Chuck thinks about this on the
phone line. Chuck, what's going on?
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Well, yeah, I mean that's very interesting to thank you
for having me k. I course appreciate it. Yeah, so yeah,
I mean, let's let's let's do the realization. The best
Trevor Lawrence games is when he threw four interceptions in
the playoff game and came back with four touchdowns. Like
Davison now said, we kind of a quote I'm using,
we see what the best Rams foot ball is, and
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they haven't seen the best Panther. We haven't seen the
best of the Panthers yet. We haven't seen the best
of Bryce Young yet. I mean, the best of Bryce
Young is versus Atlanta. But there's still progression. So I
don't I don't understand that why there's so much backlash
of them picking up the fifth year option. And it's
the bright and the to the Bryce haters, it's if
you want them to pick up the fifth year option
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because you don't want a Daniel Jones situation. Right, Remember
went to guys with Daniel Jones, they declined the fifth
year option. They thought he was doing a smart move
that he balls out and they gave him a huge
contract and he stuck up later to the right paters,
you want, I might even the Bryce hater for the
Bryce haters, you want the fifth year option to be
kept up. You want him to be in a situation
of Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins are frequently franchise tacked Francisse
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tac to not debilitate your cap. That's the situation that wins,
wins for both teams, don't you agree?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Oh yeah, listen, I'm I'm all in favor of the
fifth year option.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Yes, yeah, So I don't understand the hate or even
the Bryce the Bryce haters saying that they shouldn't have
picked the fifth year option. We should have brought another
competition to see what it is. But I do feel
in the sense that I kind of thought about it,
I would say Bryce Young, I think Bryce Jung will
make the Jazz better. We've seen the best of Trevor Lawrence.
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Trevor Lawrence is what it is.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
How many years we.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Have been Trevor long.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
Lawren's been in the league.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Five six.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
So I kind of agree with that.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
I was kind of shocked it too, But yeah, I
would take Bryce Song over Trevor Lawrence. So that's fIF
your option. That's no brainer than me.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I appreciate the phone call, Thank you, Chuck, appreciate you
very much.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
So Bryce.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So I think so far this season, Bryce is what
twenty three nearly twenty four hundred yards, eighteen touchdowns, nine
picks right so far this year, Trevor Lawrence twenty six
hundred yards, sixteen touchdowns too fewer than Bryce, eleven picks
to more than Bryce. By the way, I want to
mention two that Bryce has not played in a game
in Trevor. I believe he's played in all the games
so far.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I mean, what do you mean? Hold on, Trevor hasn't
missed the game? You mean yeah? And Bryce has missed one?
You sure about that? You might be right about that.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
I will.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Trevor missed time last year.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Okay, oh oh, did I misunderstand what you were saying? Again,
what do you mean by that? Well, Trevor has They've
played twelve games this year. Yeah, but they've already had
their buy Panthers have played I know, but Panthers have
played thirteen. But I'm just doing like side by side comparisons.
Bryce missed a game because the Buffalo game. So they
both played exactly twelve games this year, and he still
has less turnovers. Bryce has more touchdown passes and his
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two more touchdown passes and two fewer interceptions than Trevor
Law and only about two hundred less passing yards. And
the Jags are on top of their division, by the way,
at eight and four. Right now they're tied with the Colts,
but the Jags right now are on top of the
division at eight and four, And he already got a
five year, two hundred and seventy five million dollar extension. Yeah,
all right, Robert's up next on the phones, Robert, what's
(30:21):
going on?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
What's a man talk about? I was watching the Duke
game and then I was watching the North Carolina game.
Was me that that sense this seemed like a strange
crowd because I mean I was watching the Duke game
and that that crowd was banandis the crowd was in
Kentucky was common strange And by the way, it wasn't me.
Was that game hard to watch?
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
The Kentucky Carol a lot of games. It was rough,
it was right, I mean they went ten minutes without
a field goal. Kentucky did so it was bad, and I.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Was watching the press conference with the Florida coaches. He's
just making all kinds of excuses of some home I do.
You couldn't get a shot off at the end, and
then it would and then you couldn't even get a
pass down. I mean, you know, just be Grace is
assisted and then he's talking my war. You're in camera.
(31:11):
You're not going to get the calls. Come on, man,
I can't. I can't imagine Scott her doing that. You know,
Dot comes in and gives a team credit if they
if they beat him. He never makes an excuse. So
I just thought that I didn't really didn't really care
for Florida's coaches, and we will probably see them and
(31:32):
maybe in the second round of Sweet sixteen we'll beat
them again.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Okay, I was told you had Panthers thoughts anything on Carolina.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah, no, I I am. I'm happy with Rice. I
still think you haven't seen his best yet. And the
thing is, there's two things of Rice, the running game.
But the other thing we haven't seen the best of
these wide receivers. These guys are getting open now is
they get more experienced and they get open. Bryce is
gonna be in need better.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So now I'll keep right Okay, I appreciate the phone call. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
One of the things that Graziano wrote about was that
ten different offensive line combinations this year, still some young,
unproven wide receivers. Jalen Cocher missed the first handful of
games XLS had some developmental issues, and that's part of
the reason why they over there at the corner of
Mitton Morehead. You know, look at it maybe a little
bit differently than some Are there some games where they
(32:27):
thought Bryce could have played better, Yes, but I think
they're also accounting more than some people are for the
fact that, hey, we're seven and six, we're in the
playoff hunt. He's had some big performances, and we have
had to start ten different offensive line combinations, and we're
still trying to get these wide receivers up to speed.
Our lead dog and at the wide receiver spot is
a rookie, albeit a great one it seems, but it's
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still a rookie.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
And to your point, usually when we see rookie wide
receivers standing out like this, they're usually on bad teams.
Like you look at last year, who was getting the
most type last year? From the rookie wide receivers. It
was Brian Thomas Junior and Milik neighbors. Brian Thomas Junior
played for the Jaguars. How did Jags do last year?
Not great at all? How did the Giants do last year?
Not great at all. So most years when you see
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roocky wide receivers playing like Tedor or McMillan, they're usually
on bad teams.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
But this team has done a good job this year.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
But it also just shows you that you might need
more growth and development from the guys currently on the roster.
And he still might need to get a wide receiver
in this upcoming offseason. Not not It's definitely not the
main focus, but it's also one of those where if
you can get them, it definitely could help.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
DJ Hot and Cold is back on the phone lines. DJ,
what's going on?
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Well, I'm gonna go ahead clear one thing. This is
a Jack Swag nation. You know what I'm saying. I live,
I live in Carolina, but I'm a dec a Jaguay fan,
and as far as Sunshine is concerned, first time way
better by. I don't even know y'all comparisons all mixed up.
First sign is a potent typolical franchise QUB in the NFL.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
Did he did?
Speaker 6 (33:58):
He have some horrible coaches in the beginning. Yes, but
as the coaching improved and gets better players around him.
Trust me, Tevil Lawrence, even in Dasonville or James Dansonville,
Tevil Lawrence is gonna win a Super Bowl somewhere.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
So hold on when you because listen, I've always been
a Trevor Lawrence fan. And what we played was a
former NFL Super Bowl champion, Chris Long saying that that's
what he thinks about Bryce and Trevor. It sounds to
me when you say he's a prototypical like is it
all about the size for you? Because Bryce, I mean
outside of the yardage like total yardage numbers. Bryce has
more touchdowns and fewer interceptions than Trevor does this year.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
I mean that that we can look at the small
and intangible bad at the same time. The question no
one asks you is in the playoffs, in a dog fight,
do you want Trevor Lawrence or do you want Bryce Young.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I've seen Bryce Young lead eleven comebacks already. He's the
youngest to get to eleven. I've seen him make a
lot of clutch plays. I mean, if you're looking for
me to say, Trevor, you might be disappointed a dog.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
But hold on, hold on, hold on, what's Trevor Lawrence?
Speaker 6 (35:07):
We got to get hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Hold on, hold on, we got to get there. Hold on?
What is Trevor Lawrence's story playoff career look like in
your mind?
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Hey, my thing is, at least he got them to
the playoffs. I mean, he won one game, and he
was he was one.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Okay, he didn't win the game.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
In KC, but damn, you know, Casey is difficult.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
To be I won't argue with that.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
He's also got two years ahead of Bryce in the NFL,
So what's to say Bryce doesn't do the exact same
thing or more over the next two years.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Oh mean, first of all, he got to get off
to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
That's true.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
You gotta get some playoff experience, you gotta, you know, like,
that's what a lot of people say. They like New
England right now. They think they're a good team. But
when it when it gets when it gets hot, and
the playoffs going, even on the road, even lonely k
C and Baltimore is still very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Okay, all right, let's I appreciate the phone call. I
gotta hit a break brother, thank you. I don't agree
with you, but thank you for the phone call. Let's
go to smoke on the headlines. All right, Tonight is
game to day two. Excuse me of the ACC SEC challenge.
The ACC currently leads by a margin of six to three.
They only had two wins last year. The games tonight,
(36:19):
Louisville takes on Arkansas, Clemson takes on Alabama. Oh god,
LSU takes on Boston College. Eh, but now we go
back to good SMU takes on Vandy, Auburn takes on
n C State, Virginia takes on Texas, and Mississippi State
takes on Georgia Tech. We talked about it earlier, but
which game intrigues you to most? M intrigues me the
(36:47):
most after what NC State did in that Maui field.
Can they go to Auburn and win? Because Will Wade's
the biggest story from the offseason in the ACC. So
that's got to be the answer at Louisville Arkansas game. Though, man,
I can't wait to watch that. Do need to mention
all the ACC has to do is win three DS
games tonight, and they win a challenge three of the seven. Yep, yep, yep.
(37:10):
All right, there you go, Well, come back, we'll wrap
up the show. Sports Radio ninety two to seven WF
and Z. All right, one final time, Sports Radio ninety
(37:32):
two to seven w f n Z, KB and Smoke
wrapping up the show. Instant replay coming up in ten
minutes as usual. But then we've got Hornets pre game
at six point thirty at the bottom of the hour,
Hornet's battling the Knicks at the Garden tonight seven thirty
here on the flagship station, Sports Radio ninety two seven
WF and Z. Smoke, I know you'll be out after this.
We got Jilil sliding. I think no, is Jelil out tonight.
(37:55):
I think it's flounder. Oh, I got flound on the pregame. Okay, Jill,
look at Jalil taking the night. Okay, who you got tonight?
Hornets bounce back? No, you don't think so, do you?
Speaker 10 (38:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Nick, I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, Okay, I get it. All right, we got to
catch you up on what you've missed. It's time for
the rewind and we go back to our number one
Hornets head coach Charles Lee speaking of back for his
Weekly Conversation and after con Ka Nipple made some fairly
pointed comments following the Brooklyn loss about his team's level
(38:29):
of compete in that loss to the previously three and
sixteen Brooklyn Nets. Here's Charles Lee on whether or not
he has a problem with his rookie speaking out.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
Yeah, I would say it's not even a rookie thing,
a vet thing to me, It's just a player ownership
thing or player accountability. They have to ultimately take ownership
of what they want the identity of this team to
be every night. You know, as much as the coaches
and the GM, the president, the ownership group might have
this vision and what we say, and we have to
(39:00):
model those behaviors, but we need the players to obviously
carry it out, and I think they have to model
it themselves.
Speaker 11 (39:06):
But they also have to hold each other incountable and
whoever that is.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
They know, our.
Speaker 11 (39:11):
Standards are to compete at a high level, to play
together at a high level. And we showed during the
weekend when you win that back to back that we
can do it. And you know, We've done it throughout
the whole year, but we have to be able to
sustain it. And I think just during that Brooklyn game,
we did some really good things. We put ourselves in
a position to have an eleven point lead, and then
(39:31):
our identity started to I think fizzle as the game
went on and like that. To CON's credit, he doesn't
want to see that going forward, and I definitely have
his back when he talks about that, because our process
and our identity are really important to its.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Later in the show, the senior Associate Commissioner for Football
the Atlantic Coast Conference, Michael Strickland, back on the show,
and with all the conversations swirling around the playoff and
the ACC and Virginia and Duke and Miami versus Notre
Dame and all that's going on, and here's Michael Strickland
making the case for Duke. If they win the ACC
title game.
Speaker 12 (40:04):
Virginia wins, obviously they're in Duke wins. That will be
their tenth Power four game played this season. It would
be their seventh Power four win. It would be their
fifth Power four win on the road. It would be
a Top twenty five win. It would be their fourth
win against a team with an above five hundred record.
Print out James Madison's resume, UNLV's resume, and Boise's resume,
(40:28):
and tell me if any of those boxes are checked.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I that bothered some people on the text line. Smoke's laughing.
He saw the same responses on the text line. Yeah,
well they lost to Yukon, they lost to Tulane, And
it's like, I don't even think that's the point. People
have been, you know, clamoring for the ACC to do
a better job of advocating for its own conference in
these Discussions's why we had the whole ACC's version of
Paul Finebam discussion last year, or too somebody to you know,
(40:54):
craft a resume to spin it, you know, to make
the case. And that's what he's doing right there. I
got no problem with that, just like I have no
with people pushing back on it. But I love the
ACC coming out swinging just a little bit more. And oh,
by the way, on Friday, they have three consecutive showings
of Miami's win over Notre Dame scheduled to air on
the ACC network.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Now, tell me that's just I love it. I love it.
They are going to air Miami's win over Notre Dame three.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Consecutive times this weekend, going into Championship weekend on the
ACC Network to remind everybody what happened back in week one.
All right later in the show, and finally, two time
pro bowler Super Bowl champion SEC Network analyst Roman Harper
on people complaining about Alabama jumping Notre Dame last night.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Well, you mad at that?
Speaker 5 (41:41):
Why I was the only four lost team in the
top twenty five. And that's the prop up the ones
in the big ten that they got at the top.
And so it's not just one thing of the other, Kyle,
And you know Alabama, that's an easy target because people
love that thinking about Alabama, But I that's the same thing. Okay, Well,
why are they head of Notre Dame?
Speaker 6 (41:59):
Now?
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Their resume has been good. You can put them in
front because they win on the road versus Alver, who
the outsiders say is a bad team because their record
isn't that good. And so what did Alabama do this
past week and that made them all of a sudden
now jump ahead of them when they should have been
ahead of Notre Dame from the start. And so you're
talking about making excuses or giving people the out. The
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people that's getting out is the committee, not Alabama.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
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likely winning the acc sec Challenge and b starting to
show some bite when it comes to fighting back against.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Some of the narratives.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
All Right, I'm going to be a homer James Franklin
here on signing day, my guy, Big Jimmy taking my
Hokies from one twenty one in the recruiting rankings to
twenty two in the span of a week. Thank you,
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good listen. I can't get back to all the stuff
that's on the text line right now. The whole six
to seven things run its course probably three times over.
But somebody asked an interesting question. I think it was
Juice Box. He said, he's the same age as me.
We're both forty were men. He said, what was our
version of six y seven back in the day. The
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overwhelming favorite on the text line seems to be suck
It by DX in the WWF.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It's a pro wrestling thing.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
If you don't get it, you probably still get it
because everybody was running around chopping back in the day.
You probably saw it, but I'm not even sure I
think that's the equivalent. But the fact that so many
people do is hilarious on the text line. So we
got waylaid with that. I also got a few Texters
hit me up and said, KB, just jumping in. Have
you guys talked about the Bryce Young fifth year option news?
(01:19):
And I want to reiterate again, that is not a
report from Dan Graziano. It's not a report that the
Panthers are about to pick up Bryce's fifth year option.
What he wrote in his I guess it was a column.
I've seen the screenshots, that's it. What he said was
he expects them to pick up the fifth year option
for Bryce Young. So I just want to point that out.
It's an ongoing conversation with us already, but that is
(01:42):
not a report. It's Dan Graziano, who was in Charlotte
covering the Panthers' Rams game on Sunday, saying, you know,
he expects the Panthers to do that. I would guess
our next I would guess that our next guest, easy
for me to say, probably thinks.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
He's here to talk about a lot of football. Roman Harper,
two time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion, SEC net Work
analysts back with us for his Wednesday conversation, Roman, what's
going on, buddy?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
KB?
Speaker 5 (02:05):
What's good?
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
In Birmingham watching my daughter play basketball on the phone
and got off to talk to you guys.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
That's awesome. How's it going You winning?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Well, yeah, they're winning. They're being Myers Park pretty good
right now, the JV team, So it's so good. A
lot of mistakes made on both teams, but I was watching.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
It's fine.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
It's you know, I've been in Alabama for covering Alabama's
signing day today. That's a big thing. That is now
in December, when it used to be in February, and
I remember they everybody used to send in faxes and
when you got that sign that paper early in the
morning on sinning day. And now you can only know
it's real when the players put out a post on
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Instagram or x or x and to let you know
where they're going. Before that, you have no idea.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, so wait, I don't want to get in a
rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So you're in Birmingham, Alabama, watching your daughter play from
Myers Park.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Huh that's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Yeah, well she's that Providence Day playing against Myers.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, alapasa.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Now man, nowadays you can watch the games from you.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Know, anywhere in so I thought you were watching them
play live and Smoke and I were both very confused
when I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Oh no, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's okay, it's okay. I thought that was cool though.
All right, I'll just start with the Bryce young thing
real quick, because they just beat the perceived best team
in the NFL on Sunday in the La Rams. Bryce
played well, they ran the ball well, They were so
shorthanded defensively, with no JC Horn, no Trayvon Merrick, missing
a starting linebacker, and they still beat the best team
in football on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
What did you think about it?
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I really didn't watch the game, but the highlights that
I saw because they actually affected the quarterback. They got
at to Matt Stafford, big Brown up front, get the
sack fumbles towards the end of the game. To really
still it. I thought, you know, nobody's playing better than
that young man right there upfront, and I'm glad he's
getting all the flowers and everybody's notice him, especially have
to come off the injuries and missing so much time
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last year. So it's just really good to see when
you're top round pick or starting to payoff. You can
say the same thing about Terroll McMillan. Bryce young the
last three or four years, it's been really really good
with some of these first round picks. And when your
young guys are starting to understand what it takes to
win games, they're going out there and performing at a
high level.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
This is all positive.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I just remember, Kyle, remember this has been a journey
with us on these Wednesday calls, week in and week out.
They win one, they lose one, they win a big one,
they lose a terrible one, and you cannot ride the
emotions of the fans. You just can't. I've been telling
you all year. It's a long season. This team still
has a chance into the playoffs. That said that, after
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everybody was so on Bryce after the terrible performance way
he threw for just the hundred yards. Now he comes
back and they're putting up stats about him, you know,
having the most comeback wins at the earliest age. And
he also threw for four hundred yards, a team record.
And so you're gonna deal with the ups and downs
when you're dealing with a young team that has not
had anybody on this team that is at any type
of winning at a high level for this organization specifically.
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So it's been a really good action see them competing.
Everybody had taken a bonus of, you know, ownership of
their mess ups. But when they're also doing good, let's
praising and love on them too. So really big win
by this Panthers team, and ultimately they're exactly where they
want to be at and that's actually in a position
to maybe make the playoffs by winning the division.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So before I get back to college football then, I mean,
it's Dan Morgan's decision ultimately, and they have until May
to do it. To me, it's a no brainer. I'm
picking up Bryce's fifth year option. You don't have to
do it today, but like I'm automatically personally picking up
his fifty year option by the time that made deadline
rolls around. I mean, he's going into the final four
games of year three, just a second year with Dave Canalis,
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They're getting better as an organization. I'm picking up the
fifth year option right now, without question. How do you
feel about that?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, of course, because two questions if you don't pick
up the option is who else you're going to go get?
Because you're not going to have a extremely high drafted
the quarterback situations coming out are not going to be
great the next year. In my opinion, I think the
best players in the draft coming up will not be
quarterbacks to it be other positions. And you can probably
say that for the year after as well. The classes
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are very hid and miss. And then so if you
want to restart that, I mean, that's one decision. But
then also if you don't do the fifth year option
and he does play well next year, it's going to
cost you a lot more. So at least you have
the fifth year options to hold on to players. That's
what it's. You have it for the first rounders that
have been really good for the own organizations, to give
you more time to figure out the right number to
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pay them when it is time if you make that decision,
which when you got a quarterback, you got a chance.
And right now bright Shund is playing well. It hasn't
been perfect, but he is playing well for this team.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Roman Harper hanging out with us here for a Wednesday conversation.
All right, college football rankings last night. I'm going to
start with Alabama with you because I know Alabama's a
good team. You know they're a good team, But there
are a lot of folks once again upset last night
with the Committee because it felt like they gave Alabama
sort of a built in excuse if they lose the
SEC title game, and that the Committee kind of protected Alabama,
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you know, and gave them a mulligan, if you will,
based on the way they were ranked last night. And
I want to be clear to you because you and
I've had a lot of these conversations over the years.
To me, there's a lack of consistency issue with the
Committee overall. It's never just about Alabama because there are
a lot of things you can question with what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
But what do you think about the folks that look
at what.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
They did last night, move Alabama to nine, Notre Dame ten,
and people saying that this is the this is the
playoff politics to drive people crazy.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Well, if you mad at that, why I was the
only four lost team in the top twenty five. And
that's the prop up the ones in the big ten
that they got at the top. And so it's not
just one thing or the other, Kyle, and you know, Alabama,
that's the easy target because people love that thinking about Alabama.
But I asked the same thing, Okay, well, why are
they head of Notre Dame. Now their resonate has been good.
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You can put them in front because they win on
the road to versus Oliver, who the outsider say is
a bad team because their record isn't that good. And
so what did Alabama do this past weekend that made
them all of a sudden now jump ahead of them
when they should have been ahead of Notre Dame from
the start. And so you're talking about making excuses or
giving people the out. The people that's getting out is
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the committee, not Alabama. Alabama's not getting out. They deserve
to be there or hired since day one. It's the
committee that's all of a sudden showing you guys these
things to say, Okay, well it justifies this because they
ultimately are the ones that want to be right. I
don't think you give Alabama any brain or you know,
say that they're getting unfair treatment. They should have been
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there since to jump the fact that they just put
them there. Now you can blame the committee because the
committee's already setting up in Telliviu. Who they feel is where.
Listen to what they say weekend and week out last
week versus when Oregon beat USC they said, you know,
Oregon finally beat a team that in play how we
expected them to be until we were able to put
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them where we wanted them to be the whole time.
That tells you everything right there, So you know you
have to listen to the words that they say. And yes,
it is ultimately some sort of bias, I believe it is,
but hey, what can I do about it. I'm not
going to complain because my team is actually one of
the ones that usually are playing well and are usually
good enough to get into the playoffs when they deserve it.
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I was the first one to say that they didn't
deserve it last year. But the other thing is they
put them there, Kyle, because ultimately, if Alabama does lose,
I still think they would deserve to be in because
you can't. You didn't punish SMU for not winning the
the ACC Championship game last year, now or not. Everybody
was mad then, and so now Alabama loses the Georgia
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and SEC championship, which I don't believe will happen, and
that gives them credits to say, Okay, well we can't
punish Alabama. It will be the first time you get
a three lost team into the playoffs it was a
third loss in the SEC Championship, where they have the
number one ranked team in the SEC. I know we
don't look at as rankings, they're not number one, but
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if you look at the standings within the SEC, Alabama
is the number one team in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So it's funny. You'll appreciate this. One of our listeners,
one of your members of Role Todd Nation, Dono, the
Bama fan, just told me Notre Dame hasn't played any
hard teams. Grow up, KB, She just told me to
grow up. I mean, I'm not I'm not arguing against
Notre Dame. I'm not even arguing against Alabama. I'm not
even arguing for Notre Dame. In fact, I've been arguing
for Miami in this and I hate that. It tastes terrible.
(10:37):
I hate Miami, but I gotta argue for him. And
what I'm bringing up here is like, you're you are
a competitor. Okay, I don't think you have to have
played sports at the highest level to be a competitor,
but you are, and you did. And it's been maddening
to me to watch this committee act as if that
Notre Dame Miami game didn't happen in week one, and
they've been acting as if that head to head data point,
you know, has somehow been devalued. But then at the
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same time last night, browman, uh you got Texas leapfrogging
Vanderbilt because they have the head to head advantage over them. Like,
I think we're in a really dangerous spot here if
if they start making decisions that devalue head to head competition.
And maybe we're already there. But as a former player,
that has to bother you, right.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Uh, it does.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
But you know, a couple of weeks ago, I would
have said, Lord James playing better than Miami, so I
kind of understood it. But and I don't think they
want to be beholden to just like, oh, well that
team beat them, so they just nottually have to be higher,
even though you know, they've played multiple games since then.
I would also say I would also encourage and to
go back to my Alabama fan. That's with me, Kyle.
They didn't like the tone and with the question was
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that so I agree with them, you know, check yourself,
check yourself, and so it's so, you know, so I'm
not mad at the committee for you know, I'm more
mad at the ACC. Okay, how do you not have
Miami in the ACC championship game? It makes zero sense
for them to be the probably clearly the best team
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in your conference and they're not in. It doesn't make
any sense at all. And if Duke wins this game,
pandemonium for the ACC will happen. And so everybody needs
to be rooting for Virginia to win this game. And
I with all due respect to the Duke fans, just
because the conference will not be represented in the correct
way if that happens, because now it's just so many
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other things that can happen. And I don't know, Kyle,
the whole playoff things is just weird because you're telling
me that Tu Lane was ranked the twenty fourth best
team in the country. But because if they want a
certain conference or whatever that was. And I like everybody
there at two Lane, that's in my own, my old
backyard and my old stomping grounds in New Orleans. But
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if you put them out the twenty four team, then
you put them in a twelve team playoffs. You know,
I'd rather you lie to me and just put them
higher or something to make it at least justifiable. And
so These are the things that bothers me about the
whole quote unquote committee thing, because it's never as clean
and understanding as possible. And you can't tell me it
takes me all week long to watch sixteen or eighteen,
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nineteen twenty games, and you're telling me that all these teams,
all these people that are great and needs have watched
twenty something games. It's just, you know, so everybody's looking
at certain things and taking everybody else's advice about who's
better than who. And I think that's what you're running into.
And it's not fun. It's stinks, honestly, But this is
where we're at right now, and I don't think it's changing.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And listen, I'm gonna let you save your predictions for
your your actual day job with the network. So I
want to ask you about Georgia Bamma. Necessarily. I am
curious though, because this is already an epic coaching cycle
with all kinds of jobs being vacated and filled and
everything else. So far, we have what Ryan Silverfield to Arkansas, Arkansas? Yeah,
we John Sumrall headed to Florida abroad.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
We played in the same all Alabama missed the All
Star Game coming out of high school. Did you really
shout out John Summer. Yeah, we've been homies for since
high school. Washington play at Kentucky, Auston coach at Kentucky.
Watched them go to Troy, which my brother went to
rooted for and talked to him then, and then watched
him go to Tulane. You know, it's in my old backyard.
Big fan of this guy.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Man. He played safety.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I actually played corner in the game together. So he
was a safety, I was a corner. He moved the linebacker.
I moved to safety.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Back in the day, that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
No, that's cool man.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So Summer on Florida, Alex Golish at Auburn, Ryan Silverfield
at Arkansas, Will Stein who is headed to Kentucky. Former
Louisville quarterback godly enough. Any of those stand out to
you as particularly impressive or guys you think will succeed.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Well, you know I already talked about John summerl for me,
Alex Golis brings a great idea of what they want
to do offensively. They you know, he was Tennessee's quarterback
offensive coordinator under Josh Eipel, So under that hyphol system,
So they're gonna spread rouse, they're gonna throw it all
over the ballpark. You want to build to score points,
but we'll have be able to continue to get enough
stop and can Auburn not implos That would be the
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other question mark with that one. The other one is
I like Silverfield at Arkansas because he's a He's won
a lot at Memphis. Okay, not only that, but Memphis
is very close to Arkansas, so he's used to recruiting
in that area. And you know, it's just similar doing
a lot with not as much money. I know Sedex
money is good. I just don't know if this is
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as good as Walmart, Entyson, Chicken money. So now you
have a little bit more resources in your pocket. Can
Arkansas build upon that and also recruit the state of Arkansas,
get the ones that have are talented in that state,
lock them in, and then be able to go to
across the borders of Texas, Tennessee over there by Memphis
and a couple other places Mississippi, Louisiana and get some
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of these players because ultimately that's.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
What it's going to have to take.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
And can you stop turn the football over? They have
to have a mindset switch at Arkansas if they want
to be able to compete and win games at the
highest level, because in the SEC there are no byleas well.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Listen, I'll let you go. I know you're busy.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I want to let you watch your daughter play basketball,
but I do want to let you know that I'm
very excited for a year from now talking about James
Franklin and the Hokies. They're seeding in the playoff. I mean,
my man has taking the recruiting class from one twenty
one to twenty two in a span of a week,
so we coming wet.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I saw that he was very excited about that. I
saw him doing some things and look, man, you should improve.
I'm not gonna say that much. That's a huge jump,
all right, but you should improve when you're not having
a coach at DAM and all you're doing is focused
on recruiting. And James Franklin is a hell of a recruiter.
Everybody's known that about him since day one. So congratate you,
man in your hokey Because I saw Virginia walk the
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dogs with him. My son was watching the recare that morning,
so I apologize about that.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
KB yeah, you sound really to me.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
My team beat Yeah, my team beat our rivals. So
you know, like you said earlier, man, that degenerates the
next man. Such, that's whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Wow, you and Donna the Bama fan are really frigging
sensitive today, Mike. I was just being playful and I
took strays there at the end. All right, buddy, enjoy Alabama.
We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Thanks, KB, be good man by smoke there you go.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I mean, I mean, wow, Donna told me to grow up.
I'm a man, I'm forty. I don't need to grow up.
I've done grown up. I'm here, I'm arrived. You love
that you get to say that for like three hundred
more days I do. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say
it's on forty nine. I got, of course I am.
I'm a man, I'm four. She was like, good not
to day. I ain't play nobody, KB.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Grow up?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Like there wasn't my point to go after Alabama by
the way, to beat USC that was a pretty big win.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah all right, seven oh four, five, seven ninety six, ten.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Now next your your schedule is gonna be very soft.
But for this year, yeah soft, very soft, all right,
we'll come back. We'll take your phone calls. US Marine Corps.
Dave gets the first one. I got a couple of
phone lines open. We can talk Panthers, we can talk Hornets,
we can talk acc SEC Challenge, we can talk college football.
We'll take your phone calls. Next Sports Radio ninety two
to seven wfn Z.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Alright, what you want to do when you grew up?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
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want to mention and of course send our condolences out
to the family and friends of Elden Campbell who passed
away last night at the age of fifty seven. This one,
this one shocked me. This one floored me. Listen, people
pass away all the time, but I hadn't thought about
Elden Campbell in a long time for obvious reasons. But
it was only fifty seven years old. Fifteen year NBA
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career from nineteen ninety to two thousand and five, of course,
remains Clemson's all time leading scorer with one eight hundred
and eighty career points. Also ranks among Clemson's leaders in
blocks and rebounds. Helped the Tigers to their only regular
season ACC championship back in the eighty nine to ninety
season and to a Sweet sixteen appearance in the NCAA
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Tournament that year, and was later inducted into the Clemson
Hall of Fame. First round pick twenty seventh overall by
the Lakers in nineteen ninety, spent the first nine seasons
of his career with LA and then after LA went
on to play parts of you know, the rest of
his career. I should say with the Hornets, the SuperSonics,
the Pistons. It's funny he played for the Charlotte Hornets,
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the New Orleans Hornets, the Seattle SuperSonics, the Detroit Pistons,
and the New Jersey Nets, and how many of those
teams aren't things anymore. But Eldon campbell Man never became
a perennial All Star. But man, he was tough. He
was reliable, reliable starter for a lot of agains. I
mean he was the opposite of flashy. But he was
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like just a calm, steady presence, really well respected around
the NBA, carved out a really long and substantial career
as basically a glue guy. I mean it was a
lot of things, but you know, he was a glue guy.
He was a steady Eddie. He was a pro there
in the middle. And he came over to Charlotte, by
the way, in case you don't know, or maybe for
good or you were young, March nineteen ninety nine, came
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over in the Eddie Jones trade with the Charlotte Hornets.
Well it was actually referred to at the time as
a Glen Rice trade. Yeah, it was a big trade
because this is the Bob Bass Pascal. That's how Hornets
were able to stay consistent because they got Bob Bass
to make all those trades, and he was able to
find good players to come in return. They traded Glenn
Rice Jr. Reid and bj Armstrong two the Lakers. I
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know Glenn Rice won the ring, but like if you
look at what they did for the team, the Hornets
got a better end of that deal because they got
Eddie Jones and Elden Campbell. And if you look at
his stats offensively, some of his best offensive years in
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
We're in Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
We're here in Arlotte with those early two thousands teams
that almost made it to the Eastern Conference Finals before
they ran into the Bucks in Game seven. But as
you mentioned, he played in Detroit. He was the starting
center I believe, or one of the key Coggs coming
off the bench when they won the title in four
against the team three or four. Yeah, yeah, against the Lakers, yep,
sure was. And you're right, his watershed or his what's
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what's the word. I'm looking for his career high in
points per game, Hi, Mark, thank you. His high watermark
was in nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine, the year. He
was traded from the Lakers to the Charlotte Hornets fifteen
and nine that year, and then the nical lockout shortened
year yep. The next three years in Charlotte averaged thirteen
and seven, thirteen and eight, and nearly fourteen and seven
as a member of the Charlotte Hornets. But Elden Campbell
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passing away at the age of fifty seven really really
sad news. You know, all the best of his friends
and family. Seven oh four, five, seven oh ninety six
ten hit us up on the fan duel text lot.
Let's take a couple of phone calls here US Marine cor.
Dave is up first here in this segment, Hey, what's
going on, buddy?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (22:02):
How's it going guys?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Good?
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Hey? So two things I want to talk about.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Price is fixed, fifty year option and six seven.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
So we'll start with six seven.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
My two children have explained to me that six seven
is like a little better than mediocre.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
You're not a five.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
You're not an.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Eight or six or seven.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Now we go to Bryce.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Is he a four or five?
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Probably not? Maybe is he at eight or nine or ten?
Probably not. Maybe he's somewhere around six or seven on
a scale of.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
One to ten.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So now you look at this fifth year option.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
The fifth year option says I can bring a player
back at an I air quote and NFL economical price,
because I understand that might be a gazillion dollars, but
an NFL economical price for a fifth year first round
draft pick without paying a ton of money. So what
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do you do in price?
Speaker 8 (23:04):
Is he a four or five?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Is he a eight, nine, ten? I'm not sold on
that either he's just six or seven?
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Do we bring him back?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
I don't say you don't. I mean, if you go
look elsewhere for his fifth year for what you're gonna
pay him, where are you gonna go?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's it?
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Where are you gonna go?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Where you're gonna go?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That's and I know that's not a good enough reason
to do things always, but like, if we're being honest.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
About it, it is in this situation.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And if you look across the NFL right now, can
we be honest about quarterback playing the NFL these days?
It ain't great right now, you know what I mean?
Like it's not consistent, it's not great in most places.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Kyle, you can be a horrible quarterback and make a
bazillion dollars. Sure, you can be a great any other
position and make a whole lot less, but a mediocre
quarterback can make a bazillion dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, I hear you appreciate the phone call, buddy, So
I was thinking about this too. Jaguars gave Trevor Lawrence
what a five year, two hundred and seventy five million
dollar extension last summer, right summer of twenty twenty four.
(24:21):
I don't know, like, I'll let Chris Long how about this?
Let's let Chris Long talk about this on his podcast
what's it called again? The green Light Podcast?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Is that right?
Speaker 9 (24:29):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And by the way, his former Virginia teammate Nate Collins
as his co host.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
Right yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
He and Nate Collins they start talking about Bryce Young,
comparing him to Trevor Lawrence and asking the question, if
you swap quarterbacks, which team would be better?
Speaker 9 (24:43):
These teams are very similar, whereas when you ask about
them you get the same answer. Do you think the
Jags are going to make the playoffs? I don't know
if they make the playoffs? Do you think they win
a game the Panthers? Do you think this.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Let's get to the heart of the question at hand,
is which quarterback would.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
You w I was just going to ask you, I
wouldn't look at my eyes. It's one of those things
where if I really sit down and think about it,
if we swap quarterbacks, how much better or worse are
these teams?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I think that I think the Jags would be. I
think the Panthers are way worse.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I just think the Jags are better or better.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And I say that with respect to who is was
a fantastic college quarterback and has at times been a
good pro quarterback. And I got no problem with his character,
nothing like that. But I just don't I don't see it,
and I see something with Bryce and maybe his leash
is longer because the run on him has been shorter.
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But I would love to see them really actually build
around them and that's what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I want to know what people think about that.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
That is former Virginia defensive End, Eagles defensive End Super
Bowl champion. He played for multiple teams, but Chris Long
on his podcast Fare for Long with Nate Collins, saying
that if you swapped Bryce Young and Trevor Lawrence that
Bryce would make the Jaguars much better, and that Trevor
Lawrence would make the Panthers worse. Like, how many people
(26:09):
agree with that? Seven oh four five, seven oh ninety
six to ten. I'd love to know. And Trevor Lawrence
for a while there in these conversations was the guy
that we often talked about when we tried to, you know,
figure out who Bryce Young was in the NFL and
more along the lines of what have they done so far?
What's the career progression been? Look what the Jaguars are doing.
(26:29):
They've had multiple head coaches. They went from Urban Meyer
to Doug Peterson to Liam Cohen. Right, the Panthers have
gone from Frank w Reich to Dave Canalis. We understand how
it all works, yes, But like I mean, that's I
was surprised when there seemed to be like almost universal
agreement at least in that conversation that, oh, yeah, Bryce
makes the Jaguars way better and Trevor makes the Panthers worse.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I mean, just to fit.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Without hesitation, Bryce makes the Jags better, Trevor makes the
Panthers worse. You agree with that, right? You do your
thing over there? Seven oh four five s ninety six ten.
Let me see what Chuck thinks about this on the
phone line. Chuck, what's going on?
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Well, yeah, I mean that's very interesting to thank you
for having me k. I course appreciate it. Yeah, so yeah,
I mean, let's let's let's do the realization. The best
Trevor Lawrence games is when he threw four interceptions in
the playoff game and came back with four touchdowns. Like
Davison now said, we kind of a quote I'm using,
we see what the best Rams foot ball is, and
(27:25):
they haven't seen the best Panther. We haven't seen the
best of the Panthers yet. We haven't seen the best
of Bryce Young yet. I mean, the best of Bryce
Young is versus Atlanta. But there's still progression. So I
don't I don't understand that why there's so much backlash
of them picking up the fifth year option. And it's
the bright and the to the Bryce haters, it's if
you want them to pick up the fifth year option
(27:47):
because you don't want a Daniel Jones situation. Right, Remember
went to guys with Daniel Jones, they declined the fifth
year option. They thought he was doing a smart move
that he balls out and they gave him a huge
contract and he stuck up later to the right paters,
you want, I might even the Bryce hater for the
Bryce haters, you want the fifth year option to be
kept up. You want him to be in a situation
of Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins are frequently franchise tacked Francisse
(28:12):
tac to not debilitate your cap. That's the situation that wins,
wins for both teams, don't you agree?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Oh yeah, listen, I'm I'm all in favor of the
fifth year option.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Yes, yeah, So I don't understand the hate or even
the Bryce the Bryce haters saying that they shouldn't have
picked the fifth year option. We should have brought another
competition to see what it is. But I do feel
in the sense that I kind of thought about it,
I would say Bryce Young, I think Bryce Jung will
make the Jazz better. We've seen the best of Trevor Lawrence.
(28:44):
Trevor Lawrence is what it is.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
How many years we.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Have been Trevor long.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
Lawren's been in the league.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Five six.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
So I kind of agree with that.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
I was kind of shocked it too, But yeah, I
would take Bryce Song over Trevor Lawrence. So that's fIF
your option. That's no brainer than me.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I appreciate the phone call, Thank you, Chuck, appreciate you
very much.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
So Bryce.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So I think so far this season, Bryce is what
twenty three nearly twenty four hundred yards, eighteen touchdowns, nine
picks right so far this year, Trevor Lawrence twenty six
hundred yards, sixteen touchdowns too fewer than Bryce, eleven picks
to more than Bryce. By the way, I want to
mention two that Bryce has not played in a game
in Trevor. I believe he's played in all the games
so far.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I mean, what do you mean? Hold on, Trevor hasn't
missed the game? You mean yeah? And Bryce has missed one?
You sure about that? You might be right about that.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
I will.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Trevor missed time last year.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Okay, oh oh, did I misunderstand what you were saying? Again,
what do you mean by that? Well, Trevor has They've
played twelve games this year. Yeah, but they've already had
their buy Panthers have played I know, but Panthers have
played thirteen. But I'm just doing like side by side comparisons.
Bryce missed a game because the Buffalo game. So they
both played exactly twelve games this year, and he still
has less turnovers. Bryce has more touchdown passes and his
(30:01):
two more touchdown passes and two fewer interceptions than Trevor
Law and only about two hundred less passing yards. And
the Jags are on top of their division, by the way,
at eight and four. Right now they're tied with the Colts,
but the Jags right now are on top of the
division at eight and four, And he already got a
five year, two hundred and seventy five million dollar extension. Yeah,
all right, Robert's up next on the phones, Robert, what's
(30:21):
going on?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
What's a man talk about? I was watching the Duke
game and then I was watching the North Carolina game.
Was me that that sense this seemed like a strange
crowd because I mean I was watching the Duke game
and that that crowd was banandis the crowd was in
Kentucky was common strange And by the way, it wasn't me.
Was that game hard to watch?
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
The Kentucky Carol a lot of games. It was rough,
it was right, I mean they went ten minutes without
a field goal. Kentucky did so it was bad, and I.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Was watching the press conference with the Florida coaches. He's
just making all kinds of excuses of some home I do.
You couldn't get a shot off at the end, and
then it would and then you couldn't even get a
pass down. I mean, you know, just be Grace is
assisted and then he's talking my war. You're in camera.
(31:11):
You're not going to get the calls. Come on, man,
I can't. I can't imagine Scott her doing that. You know,
Dot comes in and gives a team credit if they
if they beat him. He never makes an excuse. So
I just thought that I didn't really didn't really care
for Florida's coaches, and we will probably see them and
(31:32):
maybe in the second round of Sweet sixteen we'll beat
them again.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Okay, I was told you had Panthers thoughts anything on Carolina.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah, no, I I am. I'm happy with Rice. I
still think you haven't seen his best yet. And the
thing is, there's two things of Rice, the running game.
But the other thing we haven't seen the best of
these wide receivers. These guys are getting open now is
they get more experienced and they get open. Bryce is
gonna be in need better.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So now I'll keep right Okay, I appreciate the phone call. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
One of the things that Graziano wrote about was that
ten different offensive line combinations this year, still some young,
unproven wide receivers. Jalen Cocher missed the first handful of
games XLS had some developmental issues, and that's part of
the reason why they over there at the corner of
Mitton Morehead. You know, look at it maybe a little
bit differently than some Are there some games where they
(32:27):
thought Bryce could have played better, Yes, but I think
they're also accounting more than some people are for the
fact that, hey, we're seven and six, we're in the
playoff hunt. He's had some big performances, and we have
had to start ten different offensive line combinations, and we're
still trying to get these wide receivers up to speed.
Our lead dog and at the wide receiver spot is
a rookie, albeit a great one it seems, but it's
(32:49):
still a rookie.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
And to your point, usually when we see rookie wide
receivers standing out like this, they're usually on bad teams.
Like you look at last year, who was getting the
most type last year? From the rookie wide receivers. It
was Brian Thomas Junior and Milik neighbors. Brian Thomas Junior
played for the Jaguars. How did Jags do last year?
Not great at all? How did the Giants do last year?
Not great at all. So most years when you see
(33:11):
roocky wide receivers playing like Tedor or McMillan, they're usually
on bad teams.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
But this team has done a good job this year.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
But it also just shows you that you might need
more growth and development from the guys currently on the roster.
And he still might need to get a wide receiver
in this upcoming offseason. Not not It's definitely not the
main focus, but it's also one of those where if
you can get them, it definitely could help.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
DJ Hot and Cold is back on the phone lines. DJ,
what's going on?
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Well, I'm gonna go ahead clear one thing. This is
a Jack Swag nation. You know what I'm saying. I live,
I live in Carolina, but I'm a dec a Jaguay fan,
and as far as Sunshine is concerned, first time way
better by. I don't even know y'all comparisons all mixed up.
First sign is a potent typolical franchise QUB in the NFL.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
Did he did?
Speaker 6 (33:58):
He have some horrible coaches in the beginning. Yes, but
as the coaching improved and gets better players around him.
Trust me, Tevil Lawrence, even in Dasonville or James Dansonville,
Tevil Lawrence is gonna win a Super Bowl somewhere.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
So hold on when you because listen, I've always been
a Trevor Lawrence fan. And what we played was a
former NFL Super Bowl champion, Chris Long saying that that's
what he thinks about Bryce and Trevor. It sounds to
me when you say he's a prototypical like is it
all about the size for you? Because Bryce, I mean
outside of the yardage like total yardage numbers. Bryce has
more touchdowns and fewer interceptions than Trevor does this year.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
I mean that that we can look at the small
and intangible bad at the same time. The question no
one asks you is in the playoffs, in a dog fight,
do you want Trevor Lawrence or do you want Bryce Young.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I've seen Bryce Young lead eleven comebacks already. He's the
youngest to get to eleven. I've seen him make a
lot of clutch plays. I mean, if you're looking for
me to say, Trevor, you might be disappointed a dog.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
But hold on, hold on, hold on, what's Trevor Lawrence?
Speaker 6 (35:07):
We got to get hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Hold on, hold on, we got to get there. Hold on?
What is Trevor Lawrence's story playoff career look like in
your mind?
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Hey, my thing is, at least he got them to
the playoffs. I mean, he won one game, and he
was he was one.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Okay, he didn't win the game.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
In KC, but damn, you know, Casey is difficult.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
To be I won't argue with that.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
He's also got two years ahead of Bryce in the NFL,
So what's to say Bryce doesn't do the exact same
thing or more over the next two years.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Oh mean, first of all, he got to get off
to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
That's true.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
You gotta get some playoff experience, you gotta, you know, like,
that's what a lot of people say. They like New
England right now. They think they're a good team. But
when it when it gets when it gets hot, and
the playoffs going, even on the road, even lonely k
C and Baltimore is still very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Okay, all right, let's I appreciate the phone call. I
gotta hit a break brother, thank you. I don't agree
with you, but thank you for the phone call. Let's
go to smoke on the headlines. All right, Tonight is
game to day two. Excuse me of the ACC SEC challenge.
The ACC currently leads by a margin of six to three.
They only had two wins last year. The games tonight,
(36:19):
Louisville takes on Arkansas, Clemson takes on Alabama. Oh god,
LSU takes on Boston College. Eh, but now we go
back to good SMU takes on Vandy, Auburn takes on
n C State, Virginia takes on Texas, and Mississippi State
takes on Georgia Tech. We talked about it earlier, but
which game intrigues you to most? M intrigues me the
(36:47):
most after what NC State did in that Maui field.
Can they go to Auburn and win? Because Will Wade's
the biggest story from the offseason in the ACC. So
that's got to be the answer at Louisville Arkansas game. Though, man,
I can't wait to watch that. Do need to mention
all the ACC has to do is win three DS
games tonight, and they win a challenge three of the seven. Yep, yep, yep.
(37:10):
All right, there you go, Well, come back, we'll wrap
up the show. Sports Radio ninety two to seven WF
and Z. All right, one final time, Sports Radio ninety
(37:32):
two to seven w f n Z, KB and Smoke
wrapping up the show. Instant replay coming up in ten
minutes as usual. But then we've got Hornets pre game
at six point thirty at the bottom of the hour,
Hornet's battling the Knicks at the Garden tonight seven thirty
here on the flagship station, Sports Radio ninety two seven
WF and Z. Smoke, I know you'll be out after this.
We got Jilil sliding. I think no, is Jelil out tonight.
(37:55):
I think it's flounder. Oh, I got flound on the pregame. Okay, Jill,
look at Jalil taking the night. Okay, who you got tonight?
Hornets bounce back? No, you don't think so, do you?
Speaker 10 (38:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Nick, I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, Okay, I get it. All right, we got to
catch you up on what you've missed. It's time for
the rewind and we go back to our number one
Hornets head coach Charles Lee speaking of back for his
Weekly Conversation and after con Ka Nipple made some fairly
pointed comments following the Brooklyn loss about his team's level
(38:29):
of compete in that loss to the previously three and
sixteen Brooklyn Nets. Here's Charles Lee on whether or not
he has a problem with his rookie speaking out.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
Yeah, I would say it's not even a rookie thing,
a vet thing to me, It's just a player ownership
thing or player accountability. They have to ultimately take ownership
of what they want the identity of this team to
be every night. You know, as much as the coaches
and the GM, the president, the ownership group might have
this vision and what we say, and we have to
(39:00):
model those behaviors, but we need the players to obviously
carry it out, and I think they have to model
it themselves.
Speaker 11 (39:06):
But they also have to hold each other incountable and
whoever that is.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
They know, our.
Speaker 11 (39:11):
Standards are to compete at a high level, to play
together at a high level. And we showed during the
weekend when you win that back to back that we
can do it. And you know, We've done it throughout
the whole year, but we have to be able to
sustain it. And I think just during that Brooklyn game,
we did some really good things. We put ourselves in
a position to have an eleven point lead, and then
(39:31):
our identity started to I think fizzle as the game
went on and like that. To CON's credit, he doesn't
want to see that going forward, and I definitely have
his back when he talks about that, because our process
and our identity are really important to its.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Later in the show, the senior Associate Commissioner for Football
the Atlantic Coast Conference, Michael Strickland, back on the show,
and with all the conversations swirling around the playoff and
the ACC and Virginia and Duke and Miami versus Notre
Dame and all that's going on, and here's Michael Strickland
making the case for Duke. If they win the ACC
title game.
Speaker 12 (40:04):
Virginia wins, obviously they're in Duke wins. That will be
their tenth Power four game played this season. It would
be their seventh Power four win. It would be their
fifth Power four win on the road. It would be
a Top twenty five win. It would be their fourth
win against a team with an above five hundred record.
Print out James Madison's resume, UNLV's resume, and Boise's resume,
(40:28):
and tell me if any of those boxes are checked.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I that bothered some people on the text line. Smoke's laughing.
He saw the same responses on the text line. Yeah,
well they lost to Yukon, they lost to Tulane, And
it's like, I don't even think that's the point. People
have been, you know, clamoring for the ACC to do
a better job of advocating for its own conference in
these Discussions's why we had the whole ACC's version of
Paul Finebam discussion last year, or too somebody to you know,
(40:54):
craft a resume to spin it, you know, to make
the case. And that's what he's doing right there. I
got no problem with that, just like I have no
with people pushing back on it. But I love the
ACC coming out swinging just a little bit more. And oh,
by the way, on Friday, they have three consecutive showings
of Miami's win over Notre Dame scheduled to air on
the ACC network.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Now, tell me that's just I love it. I love it.
They are going to air Miami's win over Notre Dame three.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Consecutive times this weekend, going into Championship weekend on the
ACC Network to remind everybody what happened back in week one.
All right later in the show, and finally, two time
pro bowler Super Bowl champion SEC Network analyst Roman Harper
on people complaining about Alabama jumping Notre Dame last night.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Well, you mad at that?
Speaker 5 (41:41):
Why I was the only four lost team in the
top twenty five. And that's the prop up the ones
in the big ten that they got at the top.
And so it's not just one thing of the other, Kyle,
And you know Alabama, that's an easy target because people
love that thinking about Alabama, But I that's the same thing. Okay, Well,
why are they head of Notre Dame?
Speaker 6 (41:59):
Now?
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Their resume has been good. You can put them in
front because they win on the road versus Alver, who
the outsiders say is a bad team because their record
isn't that good. And so what did Alabama do this
past week and that made them all of a sudden
now jump ahead of them when they should have been
ahead of Notre Dame from the start. And so you're
talking about making excuses or giving people the out. The
(42:22):
people that's getting out is the committee, not Alabama.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
That's three wind to look back into the show each
and every day as we wrap things up as a
reminder to get us wherever you get your podcast, Apple, Spotify, Google,
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Speaker 3 (42:36):
We sure would appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
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Go to neogenicstemsales dot com. Smoke what you got?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I tip my cap to the acc A for most
likely winning the acc sec Challenge and b starting to
show some bite when it comes to fighting back against.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Some of the narratives.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
All Right, I'm going to be a homer James Franklin
here on signing day, my guy, Big Jimmy taking my
Hokies from one twenty one in the recruiting rankings to
twenty two in the span of a week. Thank you,
James Franklin. Tip with the cap back for Hornets pregame
in thirty five minutes. Back on this show tomorrow. Until
then for smoke, I'm KB Sports Radio ninety two to
(43:16):
seven WFNZ, You're going to.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Be dead in one hundred years. Anyway, live dangerously
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