June 21, 2026 • 52 mins
It's another Housekeeping episode and the boys are tackling one of parenting's toughest questions: should footy ever come before fatherhood?
Matty reveals he's been flying solo while Laura and Nanna are away, so Vic suggests a little "tandem parenting" to help get through the chaos.
Meanwhile, Ash's snack monster tendencies strike again, this time putting Oscar's birthday lolly bags in serious jeopardy.
Plus, the boys weigh in on the latest breaking news from the pram parking front.
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Hosts: Matty J & Ash Wicks
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, we're here, we're in are we on? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We are. We'd been nervous as well.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I feel like it's a first day at a new job.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We'll have to do like a tour if you will.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, be quick.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It does feel weird. It does feel strange.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It does.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And if you're wondering why, it's because we're in a
new studio.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Finally, finally we're here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I didn't think this day would ever come.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Uh, yeah, it's here.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It sounds it sounds different. Does it sound different? It's
it good for you, it's it good for me.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I feel pretty good.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I feel I feel good.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, we moved to the studio and the same thing.
Now the studio, like this feels weird.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's going to take a while for it to feel
natural again.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
No, I'm pretty much there.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay, Okay, it's just I think it's because every time
we've been in this space, we've been frantically working. You know,
I've been Dana has painstakingly like rollers in hand, painting NonStop.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Really well, when was that? It was?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I I was watching you paint.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You organized the lights. That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Organized the lights. And if you want to know what
it looks like, on socials. You can see what it
looks like. We've got floating shelves. Look at us with
floating shells.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Look at us. Do you want to start the show?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Listen? Yeah, we've gotta start.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Sorry, sorry, Welcome back to Two Doting Dads.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, that's how confused I am. That's how confused. A Yeah,
I'm just I'm like fish out of water.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
All right, we tell you we started.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
If you started, you'll you'll get yourself back in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, Welcome back to Two Doting Dads. I'm Maddie
jam and this is a podcast all about parenting. It
is the good, it is the bad. And I can't
believe I forgot the fucking intro.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's all right, it happens.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Soon we'll have it on the wall. So you can't forget.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
That flashing at you. That's a thing like an L E.
D lie. I think could it be potentially static?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I think the one I got is static.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You're like, I want the static.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It's a shame we can't change it to red. Otherwise
the neighbors were looking to be like, oh the brothel
next door.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, I'm worried as well. It might do you know
when like a mobile gets too close to something. It's like,
I'm worried about that. I'm just getting a message.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
What else about the shoot? That's it pretty much like
we've been.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It's more of a visual thing.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, it's really hard to explain.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
There's four corners.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, we have a couple of power points. Some fake plants.
Can I just say I was a little bit nervous
about your shells because we both have shells. We have
two floating shells behind us. I was nervous about your shells. Well,
I just don't take this the wrong way. No, I
just like your passion for fake plants wasn't quite there.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I don't have the passion.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But yeah, and I could tell. I could tell whereas
a fake plant they get me started.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I can only surround myself in so much plastic.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But you've got You've got a little avocado that looks
like Macy. That's a nice touch. You got your little
f one cars, you got a ukulele made that one.
You've done very well.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
You've got number one day. How dare you? How dare you? Point?
Do you know what?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's why we pay vic the big bucks.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Have a look on social media or just watch the
videos and watch YouTube.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I think that's the studio done. I think that people
with more brother studio probably not, to be honest, every
time we do a studio update, people are like fucking
hell yeah, what cars are? Oh god? I fucking spent
so long editing that video, the studio update video, and
I had like two comments for like a whole day.
And I was like, oh, that hurts.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's going up nowadays, thank god.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
And I was like, Mom, can you just can you
just drop it? Drop a comment? And she was like,
oh the studio video. I was like, fucking a while.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Solo parenting.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You've been working your ass off as a solo parent
in the last three kids.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
How do you do it?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I mean, you know, you know, do I call myself
a hero? Both call myself?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Go on? Is that a question?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Or you just think it's partly offensive but it's also
partly lovely. The fact that other parents, the moms I'm
talking about, are like, do you need any help? I
asked no, I mean more so like no, you're You're
like that was very kind of you, thank you. But
other parents are like, do you need us to take
a child? Yes, but I'm like, no, I can. I'm fine,
(04:45):
I can look after them myself. And they're like, sure, UK,
do you need anything? And I'm like, I can, I'm capable.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Do I look like I need something? Why are you asking?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I mean it's lovely to be asked. At the same time,
I'm like, it's rude.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I've got this. Yeah, it's a bit like presumptuous that
you don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And they're like, where's Poppy And I'm like, ohn't.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It straight to my back? So that's a backpack no.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But but it has been great. I think one thing,
and I'm gonna say, dads are pretty bad at this.
We don't tandem parent enough.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Excuse me back it up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, I had a phone call with.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Tandem Do you mean just just regular missionary parenting?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Cut? Well, okay, let's let's bring in Vic, because Vick
and I had a conversation on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So you guys a chatting without me.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
We have one phone call, you fuckers. You were getting
your tooth ripped out, Yeah, call me, which we'll get
too shortly. But Vic was like, yeah, we you know,
mums know what's going on because we tandem parent.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Okay, I'm still yet to understand what the word tandem means.
In there, I'll just keep picturing a tanned bike.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, kind of saying European of you. Well, I asked
how Matt was going with this solo parenting, and he's like, oh, yeah,
I'm going okay. But it's funny because like a lot
of the mums have been asking me like, do you
need help, can you help in any way? Blah blah blah.
And I said, well, it's probably because a lot of
dads don't think to do tandem parenting. Whereas that night
I was solo parenting, so I had put the call
(06:06):
out to all my girlfriends and said, hey, I'm solo parenting.
Does anyone with a tandem parents tonight, so that we
can have like an easy dinner, the kids play, it
all wraps up in a nice little boat.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I'm within it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I know what you're talking about. It's like it's like
a group assignment, group projects.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yes, and you all get together.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Grip date from the Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
That's it exactly. And you guys be very familiar with that.
I'm not that familiar with the roses handed out of
the end.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Of the stay. You bring roses and then like one
by one, the kids get kicked out of the group,
and I just.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Came out immediately be like, no kids get out.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't think dads do that that often.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Usually it's like, hey, why don't we get together and
let these kids wear each other out? Is that? Is
that what I said?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You got it?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You got it, I got it. I can, I can.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I don't reckon dad's tandem parent unless it's at the pub,
unless it's the part that's a classic.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I mean there were somewhere that there's a playground, that's it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Like my tandem parent person is my
sister because she's a really good parent as well. So
it's like the group of assignment.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
You got to go with a smart kid, I would say,
punch up, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
If you've got a friend who's a really good parent,
just see what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
That's it. That's pretty much parent.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Not to make it sound like I'm a bad parent,
but like my snacks will go as far as like
some sultanas maybe enough, yeah, the packaged food, whereas my
sister's they're like putting out her four course meal with
a platter. She's like, yeah, she's a plum.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
She's a platter mum.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
She's a platter mum. She's good. And so my kids
are like, what do we got? Stana's fuck that. Look
at Kate's table of like checks the skin off the apple,
like she's going all out.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
April's a plattermum.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Like she'll be like, oh, here's some fruit and she's
cut up like carrot fruit and stuff like that and
something nice.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I'm like, I would have never done that. Mainly well,
like I would do it if it's easy and accessible.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
But our friend's daughters every time we see her, she's
straight away to me somebody because.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
She knows that April's got the goods.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So I need to I need to do more tandem parenting.
That's on my list of things to do for the
rest of the year.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You should get like an you know how when you
see one of those a four pieces of paper for
guitar lessons and got to rip off tab.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, it's just like looking for looking for tan parent.
Ha's got your phone number.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You've seen it around the streets in BONDI yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But apart from that, it's going really well. The only
thing that I will say that is fucking annoying. When
Laura is away is FaceTime calls and time it just
like never a good time with the kids because either
they realize they remember that mum's gone and there so
when you hang up, they're like, we miss her, and
You're like, then you're dealing with the kids being upset.
(08:39):
So sometimes she calls and I'm like ignorant.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, fair, fair, fair, what's I would honestly, I would
prefer if I'm away and I call, I would prefer
it to be ignored. And here's why is Macy all
of a sudden just does not talk. She just screams
at the phone and it's like, hey, I haven't seen
you two days that she's looking at herself.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Because the filters. Yeah, so Laura is there. Laura is like,
I miss you so much, and fucking Lola's being an
octopus on the filter and Laura's like hello.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
When I'm away. Dan never lets me FaceTime either, and
he says it's because the kids won't understand, and then
it's more work for him in the.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
There is no way I'm allowing a FaceTime call before bedtime.
And Laura is like, I want to I want to
say good night and it's like no, because then it's
just I'm then dealt with the mess afterwards.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, okay, here's a question on for both of you.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Please for the listeners, please, if your partner is away,
what is the ideal time for a FaceTime?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
If it's a mandatory in the family, I would say
breakfast Brecky's good.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, I'd say breaky because then they've got some activity
that they can then after the cause and.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Then go into eating a quick distract. Yeah, that or
a lunch.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Lunch.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Lunches are depending on time zone, because youve got to
remember if like, say, what's the difference there was she India?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
She's in India.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
The wrong guy. I think Laura right now it is
currently twelve forty five. I think she's just waking up.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
It's eight. I mean Indian.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
As an octopus filter.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That he's got food poison from India.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
She's like, what, Yeah, apart from that, what do we
now where by the time this comes out, Laura, will
we'll be back?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Is she back that quick?
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That did that? Just go quick? How dare you eleven days?
Eleven days?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Eleven days?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, I I would say I did the opposite of
solo parenting.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
We had a party birthday, So happy birthday to young Oscar.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
He's really coming along seven seven, same as Marley, and
Marley's his next week, just as friendly reminder, and so
is Vix. Actually this will come out after Vic's birthday,
So happy birthday, Vick. You don't look a day over
whatever today is? Wow, you look at don't look at
day over forty one?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Look great, Vic feeling? What are you doing? Do you
like do needling? What do you?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
What do you She's not a Heroin addic? What do
I do under a bridge?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I do the occasional burdocks?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, Like I'm sad, I'm I can't tell take
that out.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Take it out immediately.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Because this is recorded before your birthday. Do you have
anything planned for your birthday?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Can you tell us having a girl's night actually? And
Dan's like, I see where your priorities are tandem drinking.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Actually, after our conversation with doctor zach And about friendship
and you've got to work on your friendships and it's
good for your mental health, I was like, this is
a really good excuse to bring a whole bunch of
girls together because we get busy life gets busy and
no kids, no kids, and I reckon it's a good
excuse for people to be like, oh, like, I've got
to go to this because it's her birthday, and then
the partner.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Can't like, yeah, that's like that. You can't argue with that.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Whereas it there's no reason for meeting up other than
the fact that you want to catch up, there's really
easy to pull out find excuses.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah. Yeah, especially on the day.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
You're like, I said yes to this, like so long ago,
and then it's the day and you're like, I.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Love them so much. But also.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
And as a winter baby, no one ever really wants
to go out in winter. I fight, so I just
use it as an excuse.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Me, which is also a good thing because you can
do like a nice sunny winter ravo, which is I
would say one of my favorite times of Yeah, who
are you what.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I'm drunk. I'm not drunk. No, absolutely not no, no,
one hundred and ninety days so thinking something like that, yeah,
I lost out, you know, because I'm so good at it.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
But let's hear about Oscar.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
April posted the video of you making a fucking birthday cake.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Oh oh yeah, let's stat of the year.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I didn't know I could do that. I'll be honest
with you. She's like, hey, can you help ice this cake?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And I was like, well I can. I've never done
it either, Like I don't know how to do this.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You were making like a soccer like it was.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Green, like meant to bess. Then there was some soccer
people on the top. I've got a finished product, which
I'll show you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I've got a lot of respect for people who do
themed birthday cakes because I think the.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
R so you respect me.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I always have more.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So now I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You're putting a high up the pedestal. Thank you because
the ROI on a themed birthday cake, it's minimal. The
kids don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You get a couple of comments, and mainly April was
schuffed because all the comments that she got from the
other mums. Yeah, she was like c catered event.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I was.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I know, I saw footage of you tied up on
the couch, the snack one stuff. Oh yeah, you guys
were making you had like the kids were hard at work.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
This is what's really really concerned, you know. Okay, as
we all know, I'm not drinking anymore. So what am
I doing?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Snacking?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Snacking? Okay?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And silly April got all of the Lulli bag stuff
delivered the day before.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh god, how much did you eat?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, this is the thing.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
We said, Okay, I'm aware of that it's in the house,
that it's I know that it's here. And April said, look,
don't touch any of it or will be very upset.
And it was a proper like warning, okay, like.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
A serious It was serious.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And it wasn't like, ah, you silly boy, because I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
A silly boy, I will fucking divorce you.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, if you up your seven year old's birthday.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yes, that was the vibe, not you're just a silly boy.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And I quite often go for you just a silly boy?
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
So I was like, okay, sweet, I've got I've got
stuff I can snack on.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But once I went through that stuff, how.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Long did that take?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I walked in.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I walked into the bedroom at like eight thirty at night,
and I said to Abram, like, you're not gonna light
this conversation, and neither am I. And She's like, I'm like,
let's just put all the riff raff aside. Let's put
all the hula aside, if you will, and I will
buy another pack tomorrow. And she goes, I'm sad. You
(15:03):
have made me sad. I haven't taken anything yet.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Well, well, well.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Ease up, I haven't. It was way past that, okay.
I was like, all right. The negotiation started. What am
I allowed to have from these bags? There was so
much ship there, like what there was a bag of twelves.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I had my eye on.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Kids aren't like twelve?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
That pair like a cat.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I was really trying to get this and I was like, okay,
what about this bag of twelves half a bag of
Leamington's And she was like, no, the.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Leamingtons are for the adults.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I was like, well, they're not going to miss them anyway.
I ended up settling on a bag of twelves and
I ate the whole fucking thing and I enjoyed it.
I'm not with sha.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Where did you eat them in the living room with
my mouth?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Thank god?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You didn't eat them next to April? No, because every
Russell you'd be like, no, it's in the other room.
You can't eat in front of the room. But I
tipped to my credit.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
The first thing I did before getting a tooth ripped
out was by a packet Its well good boy.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I bought two because I wanted to pack up myself.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
So was the party success?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I will I will collate all the information I have
and update you in the Wednesday's out great along with
the tooth situation because as you can see, my face
has swollen.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I know someone actually made a comment in the Facebook
group because you were like, hey, dot dot dot, getting
my tooth ripped out, dot dot dot. We'll talk about
it later. And people are like this guy coming in
here just edging us stop.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'll be back.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Just a really quick update on pram parking at shopping centers.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I have noticed this too.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
We had a debate which almost ended the podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I just need a drama.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And the question was there's a sign of a person
with a PRAM, do you need to physically have a pram?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, because there's a few variations here, like there's a pram,
but also the trolley has we like a PRAM built in,
so like why would you have if you need a
trolley in a you can't both well.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I luckily I almost went to the shops with a
baby carrier, and I was like, well, maybe that wouldn't
allow me. But then I saw the updated sign. I
don't know if you've seen this, Ash, let me just
give you a quick little look here at what the
sign now looks like.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yes, they've been they've specified it, they've hurt us, they've
been listening to the podcast taking credit.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So this is the updated sign. I don't know if
this is just my local area, but this is what
we are now faced with at shopping centers. It is
a sign red. They've like it needs to be blue.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's fresh that sign and look.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
At that, and it's red now to be very aggressive,
very in capitals parents with pram in addition to the
picture of someone pushing a pram.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I think it needed to be Look, it's that whole
thing is you can lead a horse to water, and
I have witnessed it any times, people parking in there
with not even a child, and if not grandparent age,
not aiming at a certain generation or specific person. Sorry,
we love the boomers so much, but like I think
(18:15):
that sped. I mean that puts it to bed, right,
puts it.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
To bed, But I'm still go the can I also
just put her in it nothing more stressful than when
I came back to the car. I just have arrived.
I've got three kids by myself. What a dad, what
a guy? Thank you? Thank you? And I've also like
bought half a fucking kmart. And then I'm trying to like,
so Jesus, photo frames, get to it. I've noticed I've
(18:42):
got fifty four photo frames behind. And then as soon
as they get to the car, someone pulls up and
the like, are you leaving? And I'm like yeah, but
then you're trying to be polite. Get the kids in
the car, and you're like, I get it. What are
you going to unload the card of Poppy trying to
put her and she's like trying.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
To you trying to put a cat in a box
or something that, yeah, and just push your like pressure,
just banging ahead on the thing.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And then I'm not looking over and be like.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I don't even I don't even engage with people. If
they pull up behind me, I slow right down and
pretend they're not even there.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
I say I'm moving, but I'm going to be a while,
and they're going, I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Sorry, I'm sorry, miss mouth, like why are you whispering?
Like why are you why are you whispering?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, it's so stupid, so stupid. But whilst I was
in Kmart, I noticed that there is change happening and
there's an announcement. I'm not sure if you saw recently
that came up put the checkouts in the middle of
the store, yes, which people were outreached.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I get alive.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
But now, I mean I was one of those people
who didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, but did you take the time to voice your
anger on it?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Like?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's why I'm totally okay with people being like, this
is stupid and it's stupid. This is stupid, stupid, It's
all stupid. The whole fucking system is stupid.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Well, Cam's been listening. They're going to move the checkouts
now back to the exit.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah. I don't have a problem with that either.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
But my gripe with people is do something more productive
with your life.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
If you've got enough time to be part of it. Yeah,
But if they've got enough time to be.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Part of the backlash, it's saying, okay, well, how minimal,
how how how much lack of interest do you have
in your own life?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Can I defend them and sound I'm glad they've done it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, fine, I'm just asking.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I'm just asking the question, like what do something productive
with your time?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Get a fucking job.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
But it's those little tiny microaggressions that like disturb your day,
that happen every single day, over and over and over
and over, that make you go from a good mood
to a bad mood.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Don't only came up four times this weekend.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
But I don't they actually change it so far?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
No, they're in the process.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
How much does it affect affect you? Really?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I couldn't sleep?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Oh god, it's annoying with kids.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Will do you know what they could do? Put it
at the fucking back of the shop. Do that shake
it up a bit? I reckon if you're going to
really do it, do it properly and really fuck with people, Like,
don't just half do it and then get a bunch
of back got it back?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Dare you people shop lift?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Well, they're going to shoplift anyway. I worked it Camart,
big surprise, worry, no tweetheads.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Can I ask is there a policy when anyone asks
you a question while you're working at camar that you
just look at them like they've got ship on their face?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Did you have it on your face.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I think I did. I always like scream me up.
I'm just trying to find the photo frame.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Where's the ship on your face? I can't say it not.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
To attack the workers of Gamar, but they're not very helpful.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
No, they don't really know where anything is. But would
you know where everything is? There's ship everywhere?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Probably no more than the staff to be honest, yeah,
I do.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Because the thing is without worrywood camart is. It's a
it's a perfect loop.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
So like you go, you go the Bello drome, Yeah,
kind of, you go straight, you go a ship joke,
you go straight in the.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Kitchen wears don't just bypassing. But it was a really
good joke. You all stop and laugh. Okay, So you're
walk in.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I needed that.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
You walk in, turn hard right and.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
It goes kitchen where kitchen. Then you move into like
homewares but via storage, which is great.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And now you're having got my bellodron. You let me know,
I'm getting give the listeners a step by step guy.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
If they want to visual this is all not And
then you go into electronics and you and then you
go through clothing and finish on the toys. I think
it's perfect and then check out. I think that's good,
Get okay, moving on. Trust me, listeners are like Gosh
knows what's up. He knows what's happening. I'm out here
living and every man, everyday life.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You might have seen you, listener, I'm talking to you.
You might have seen that we put a little video.
You put a little video up about sick animals and
donating for sick animals at tarongas well. Something fascinating and
exciting news, Matt.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
We're kind of the official, unofficial official.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
We are official?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Is it official?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I signed a contract, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I signed the contract.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
We are Taronga Zoo Friends Ambassadors.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
So we are going to try and weazle some discounts.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I think we. I think we are. I think we
I think we're going to get some free passes. Ah,
we are because we are selfless, Matt.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
If there's any opportunity to give back to the listener,
that is what we like to do.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
They said, what's it going to take? We said, we
will only do it if you give us free passes
for the listeners. So how does that make you feel?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Out there?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Leave a comment now? Where on Facebook? So we'll keep
you updated on that. But we hopefully with there's some
fun things coming up with the zoo that we can
get everyone involved.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
In love it.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Well, I'm actually a zoo friend.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Did you've been a zoo friend for years? Though? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
We find it's cheaper, so if you go to the
zoo like twice a year, it pays for itself really
very affordable.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I would call this a hack. What's your approach to
zoo trips?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Something interested?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, so you have to be a zoo friend to
do this, but basically we only ever go to the
zoo for two hour blocks.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
What happens if you don't get to see the animal
that you want?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Or?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Do you do you tell the kids that you have
to pick one animal to see or how does that work?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I asked them, what's the animal they really want to see?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
See it?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
And I preface it that we won't have time to
see all of the animals, but we will see the
one you really want to see, and then we'll see
all the ones around that. So I give them a
really big pre warning that we're not going to see
the whole zoo today, but we are going to see
the ones you want to see today because you know,
kids have certain moods. Sometimes they want to see the.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Lions, do you know what I'm always I'm guilty of,
Like we must see every fucking animal in this april,
like every from the penguins to the eagles, to the lions,
the tigers to the drafts, every animal possible. It's too much.
You wear yourself out, and.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
The kids get worn out, Like I see so many
kids having tantrums and parents looking exhausted. Like two hours
is such a nice wind. So it's like they're still excited,
they're still pumped, and you still get to see the
animals you're on seat, and then the ones they didn't
get to see, We're like, we're going to go see
it next time.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
So you're saying it's a good thing to be a
zoo friend because you can go back. You can separate
the zoo into certain said some more like there's twelve
weeks of school holidays over a whole year, give will take.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
So you could separate that out and be like, we're
going to see the zoo this year.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
We went last time and I just sorry, I just realized, Fuck,
I was so close to remembering it as well. The
kids have gymnastics, and they have this little fucking form
that they It's like a little map. Every time they
go to a class, they stamp the map and I
forget it every week and everyone picked the kids out.
(25:41):
They're like, you forgot the map and I forgot the
map this morning? Sorry?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Can we print it?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
No, carry on? Sorry thought it was going to be
zoo related.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Sorry, so I apologize.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I like how you said you expectation early with them.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
You got to with everything you've got to do with Yeah,
and like I feel.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Like sometimes it's like you do it blindly.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Is going to say a couple of animals, and then
all of a sudden, you fucking get having a meltdown
because they want to see everything.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yeah, but I mean Lily's only got little legs, Like
she will not last the distance. Louis gets bored after
a while, Like I think, once the excitement starts to
wear off, we have a snack and then we start to.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Get out of that.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
My kids can walk one hundred meters and they're like
carry me, and I'm like you're seven and she's like
he help my knees hurt and the young legs. Yeah,
fucking build some resilians in your kids.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So what did you see? Where did you go?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Give us the give us the route. So this time
I think.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Because we had watched your video on Instagram today, my
video the two D one about the zoo we.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Save the animals.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Oh yes, yellow barely sugar glider. Do you see that?
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
No, I meant, did you see that animals?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Something about the studio is putting us all off, not
what's going on.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Louis really wanted to see the Seal and I was like, oh,
you know what, we've never been to the Seal Show,
so let's try for the Seal Show next minute. It's
so fucking hard getting them out of the house, Like
shoes are a chore, just walking through the door as
a chore. Anyway, we got there and they're like, the
Seal Show is starting now. So we bolted straight down
there and we got there just as like just reach
(27:27):
just reached capacity. It had started. And yeah, oh, I
was like, don't you know who I am. I've worked
with Madi j and but we're down that area because
you it's right down the bottom. So we started at
the Seals. Then we did the penguins, and then it
like twists around. You see the pelicans. And because it
(27:47):
was right on that time, it's feeding time. So this
is the other hack. Skip the seal show, go straight
to the seals. You can watch them get fed. Then
we went to the pelicans. Watch the pelican get fed.
Then we watched the giraffes and the chimpanzees get you're like.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Into the feeding the move. Actually that's a fucking good
hack as well, because when they're eating, shit's happening exactly.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
They're not just like lying around doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You getting your hacks from who's telling you this was
a fluke, So you've you've created this hair you should have.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
And also because we went straight to the bottom and
worked our way back, you missed the crowd. So every
time we got somewhere, we don't have to like be
like looking over.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
But it's uphills.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Your legs are hurt, but you gotta go u pill anywhere.
And there's no they're doing a new skytrain or whatever.
Remember they had to get they've decommissioned the current one.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I reckon.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
The animals at the bottom are suffering now because there's
no people.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I'm not walking all the way down because now I'm
going to walk allway. But you're like, who's started the bottom?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
What animals down there though? The seals and the penguins,
the cellar dwellers, the penguins that they're they're copping it
right now. Yeah, they look they're Although the pelicans are scary,
for I'm scared of the pelicans.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I thought the pelican was going to eat little right.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Have you ever been shot on by a pelican go on?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I haven't personally, but a friend of mine did, an
English guy who didn't really realize. So Narrawing Bridge, Northern
Beach is naving Bridge is renowned for being shattering people
being shot on by pelicans because the footpath walks directly
under the big lights. And I love it up there
because the bridge itself is a big hot fisherman spot too,
So they're they're just stalking their prey while shitting on
(29:27):
people walking past.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
So a friend of mine who's he's not a big
guy anyway, and I picked him up and I was like,
what happened to you?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Someone's come on you?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, it was like it was like it was covered
and I was like, what happened is I got shot
on by a Pelican.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I'm like, you're not getting in my car, bro, that's
good luck. Get back on the bus and fucking back
off England somewhere.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Anyway. I look yeah, big ships really quickly.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Last week we told a story of how I had
date night with Lola, went to the RSL, going smoothly,
then it all went pearshek because I had to try
and get it out of the playground at the RSL
and to leave, and the only way I could get
her to come with me is by dangling the keys
and me saying well, I'm going to leave you here.
Someone has written in and I won't say their name
just because I'm not sure if they want this to
(30:11):
be anonymous or not, but they said, would you have
gone through with the threat question?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
That's a good question, Yeah, albre By your son. Have
you ever seen the live of them?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well, then she goes on to say I did.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
No.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Our family went for dinner. I was driver of a
drunk mom, dad and husband and four kids. Oh that's suck.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
The kids were drunk, that's your first problem.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I gave the kids a five minute warning, a four,
a three or two, and then a one minute and
went to the car fair and loaded the double pram
and my second still wouldn't come. I got in the
car and I started it. Nope, still didn't come. But
also to be fair, like how the kid can't hear it?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yeah, I used to do that. Actually I started doing
it again as soon as I turned the car. And
they're like, really, my.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Kids aren't likely don't have attachment issues, like they won't
go anywhere, so no, no mind of like, don't leave
the room.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'm like, I won't survive without you.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
So I like that.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm like, I'm leaving you here.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
They're like, no, my kids fucking don't care. All she goes.
I drove down the driveway. Oh, make she's sorry, she's
at home. I thought she was the RSL. Forgive me
so they would be able to hear the car. Yeah. Yeah,
So I got the car, I started it. Nope, still
didn't come. I drove down the driveway. Nope, still didn't come.
At the corner, my husband, mum and dad few aus.
He got another car and went back for him. He
(31:40):
still hadn't budged. I drove home with three kids. They
got a taxi.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So wait they were at the RSL.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well, hang on a second I'm confused this whole story.
Actually they could be at home drunk.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I'm so confused.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
So she's the one about Could someone please explain Matty's
relationship playing analogy to me? I even tried going back
in listen, but I'm totally lost.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
That was a good hang on, let me just.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
What are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
That? That's the end of my message.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Okay, so let's move on. No, I think, okay, let
me justice this here. She left the kids. She left
a kid with someone else. Maybe we could give.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Her a call on So what's your relation to the kids.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
That's what us like, I was a family of kidnaped.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Hang On, she says, my soon to be twenty year
old son has never not come home when I asked again,
So she.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Left the twenty year old there, thank you?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Maybe it was her mom, Her mom was with the
dad and that confused loves the story, She's like, leave
it in.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Look, if you're listening, you know, like what the funk
I just listened to. We'll get some clarity on that.
But let's go back to the plane thing.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
My plane analogy was fucking good.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Can we replay the plane analogy really quick?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Can I give you an analogy.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I feel like kids are on this plane, which is
the family.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Right, Okay, okay, you with me.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Kids are on this plane which is being piloted by
mom and dad. Okay, and the relationship is the engine
that keeps this plane flying. You lost me?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Can you give it to me?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Okay? So parent did you make this up? Remember Laura?
Speaker 5 (33:21):
I was like, that's so good.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Mad she never listens to me. She's like, I'm like, Laura,
listen to this, and she's like, that's great, You're so clever,
and I'm like, wait till the guys hear about this.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
On the podcast, people talking about Laura who said that
me talking about alcohol being my best friend is the
most profound thing I've ever said.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
So don't take those compliments.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Let's know that was a good episode.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
You should listen to it.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
No, my analogy was that kids are on Fuck. I
should have practiced it before I started recording. You guys
have put me on the spot. I wasn't ready parenting.
Kids are on the plane of parenting, and the engine
is the relationship between the parents. Okay. So they're the
passengers on the plane that is. That's parenting as a whole.
But the relationship that drives the engines of the plane.
(34:09):
Don't make me repeat myself.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
You're like the boss who's taking his kick taking you.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Talked about camp to say.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Whoa, let me get this out.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You're like the boss who you've taken your employees on
a team building retreat, on a.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
On a boat.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
It's like an office episode where it's like on a
boat and you're like, I'm the captain because I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
The boss, and you guys are on the boat. You're
like my deck hands. You're trying to make this analogy
out of something that could be so much easier.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
It's a good analogy, is it?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I can't even really remember the ending of it? What's
the end of the storm.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
You've got to prioritize the relationship to make the engine fly,
to make the plane fly.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
And how did you come up with this one?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Chat? If you guys want to throw on your analogies,
I'm also hearing those sessions. What's parenting like?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Parenting is like having a bunch of drunks. It's like
owning a bunch of drunks. I use that a long time.
I know that's okay.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
We'll both come up with the analogies for the next
housekeeping episode, and we'll lay them on you.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
And then I'll all sit here and be like, what
the focus, what do the moon? For those of you
are having an analogy.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Of For those of you at home, you would have
just heard me shake both these people's hands.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Also, I want the dots to write in and give
us their parenting analogies in the Facebook group, which you'll
have to.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It's not just about us, Hey, it's time for this now.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
You need us smaller than ever, know that we still
have each other. You can send sure doting dilemma. You
can sure donting dilemma Ella ever.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And do great song, great song, the best I reckon.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
We had an episodehere, we had like four songs just
it's just like one big song.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Jingles a jingle episode. We should do that at the
end of the year.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Do you want to read this one?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
You read it?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I'm so bad at reading.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Sometimes now that Marley can read. If I make a
mistake when I'm reading her bedtime story, She's like, it
was it was your You got your wrong and I
don't have time for that, she corrects me.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I don't have time for being corrected. By my children.
I just tell them to shut up.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Just like that's a compound shut up to sleep, that's
a content compound sentence.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Well, I used to also get paid to read the news,
so I do know how to read.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Would you like me to read it rubbery in? Wow,
you did say you were sensitive today, and that's the
sort of comment we.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Do not need.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
I was actually just trying to take something off your
mental load.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
Sure, she said, Okay, this is from Aaron. Hi, Aaron, Hello,
regular spelling just e R I N classic.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I would actually do you know what? I'd be interested
to know people's middle names.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, if you're writing in out name, we're not reading
anything out unless your middlenames to them.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Facts. She says, Hey, guys, not sure if you've already
spoken about this type of situation, but I really want
an honest opinion and your male perspective on how to navigate.
My partner is an amazing dad. He's very supportive and
caring to me and the boys. For reference, they're one
and two years old. However, every weekend he is locked
into the footy. He will watch every single AFL game.
(37:33):
He is in three fantasy leagues and footy group chats
and then also has Maltese going for every game, So
basically from Friday night kickoff to Sunday when the bounce starts,
he is glued to the TV and his phone. I
know it's not normal, and I get annoyed because it's
my weekend too, and I feel like I'm the only
one who is actively parenting. Is there a better approach
(37:56):
I can come at this with. Surely he's hung the
boots up. It's time for him to move on and
prioritize us instead of who may win the Brownlow.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Right, First of all, my first thought here is classic
a of hell fan.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I mean, that's the first problem.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
That's your fucking first problem.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Who is watching a shout out to the lines prison
Lions who won the premiership last year.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Well she's Victorian based.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
So just to jump to his defense before I give
my opinions, please, I don't think he has to hang
the boots up and move on with his life then
they can coexist.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Right, But watching every game is a bit march or.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
We have spoken about how beneficial sport can be as
a hobby, especially for dads.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, but he's that more of like getting out and
about and doing it not actually just watching it at
home on the couch.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Well, if he's got three what the three WhatsApp chats?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Is that what I said, fantasy leagues?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Fantasy leagus. I mean, there is a level of communication
that I'm sure he's enjoying with his football, but I
think with anything, there's a line where it becomes too much.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Is what I think. The group chats on the issue.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
For me, I don't have a problem with that because
you're going to be group chatting with people and communication
is great.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Okay, however you do that is fine. I think maybe
you can watch a couple of those games on a
replay when the kids go to bed. There is I
think that's fair approaching the situation.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Although if he's in the group chat, that's hard because
all the group chat will be happening as the game
is going. So I guess he'll feel on the outer
right if he's watching them on replays after the fact.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Are we saying that everyone in that group chat, though,
is watching every single game or is that people just
all that whole group doesn't have a life.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Well, I'm guessing they're all, Hey, we don't know, but
I'm guessing that they're all going to be in the
same fantasy leagues.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I think with everything, there's got to be some balance.
But I think a question is how do we approach it.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I think at some point on the weekends there needs
to be time dedicated to the kids, and there also
needs to be time dedicated for mum to do what
she wants to be doing. You know, if he's enjoying
his hobbies to the point where it puts all the
responsibility of parenting onto the mum for the entire my
weekend from from Friday to Sunday, that's so fucking unfair.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, with us.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
For example, if Manly's playing, it's a he's watching Manly play,
because that's the only that's important one exactly right, unless
it's like original or something which happens to be on
Wednesday night at eight o'clock, which shouldn't be an issue
unless it's like, that's your specific date, and I don't
know what your circumstances are, but I think if it's
your team then and then you've had the conversations like bait,
my team's playing, it's fine as long as it's not
(40:26):
something serious happening that same day. But every game, first
of all, how do you sit there for that long
or through every game?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Who's got that kind of attention span?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
How unfit are you that you can sit there all day?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Because let's assume that he's working Monday to Friday, right
gets to the weekend, there needs to be some time
for him to spend time with the kids and focus
on that relationship. And if he's like a fuck off, billy,
I'm watching AFL. The people who are sacrificing is the
wife and the kids. They're taking the brunt.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, I think like most of the time these games
are on in the afternoon, I would.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
Say I wouldn't know what she's saying. From Friday night
until Sunday evening, he's watching every single game, and he's
on the fantasy football so he's on the WhatsApp groups.
I just think, personally, as a mother and as a partner,
that's so unfair. Like if I watched that much rom
coms or that much TV, it would not be allowed
(41:19):
at all.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Imagine if Mum was like, it's not live, I haven't
cooked dinner because I'm watching How to Lose a Man
in Ten Days.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Again, it's live.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
It's because it's very easy to say from five o'clock,
but there's no games on. There's no games on until
three o'clock on a Saturday afternoon. There's no games on
till three o'clock on a Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So if you're saying it doesn't matter, you can't you
can't know for sure a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
No, No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
I'm just I'm trying to understand here. What's happening in
the morning. Is he just doing his fantasy thing all
morning because she is tips in. If that's the case,
then it's like, all right, well it is taking up
your whole weekend. But I'm reluctant to be like, I
don't want to completely shit on him because it might
be the case that it's in the vos and that
might be a simple conversation with be like, hey, babe,
(42:06):
if there's no footy on in the morning, can you
focus on ours?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
And I don't know if that's that's what's happening, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
I actually go through this with Dan every weekend, and
I feel like there's more games that kind of keep
slipping in a little bit.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Shout out to Dan. Should it looks great? Dan?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Okay, get ready to take Dan's side and I'm just joking,
just keating.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
I would never, but like he loves sport and he
loves NRL, he loves rugby union, he loves whatever's on.
We've got the World Cup on now, like fuck sake.
But I had to say to him, you're allowed one
game per day. Like I understand for his mental health.
It's a relaxing thing. It's fine, But there's back to
back games like some days there's like three in.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Row sip Saturday.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
Yeah, And so I'm like, well, I couldn't sit there
and watch a rom com for two hours, so why
do you get to sit there and like chime out? Yes,
sometimes it is in the background, okay, but if this
guy's on his phone and watching you got two under two?
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Who?
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I think? As we don't know the full details, but
I think it's important to make sure that whatever time
you are dedicating to your hobbies, that mum gets the
same opportunity with equal amounts of time for herself.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
But I also think both parties shouldn't be made to
feel bad about doing their hobbies. No, but if it
crosses over and didn't feel bad hobby and feel bad
a hobby and de session.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Is very different. But I think, right, what's what's your Yeah,
would you agree?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
What is your rule? Vic? In your household?
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Now?
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Dan, what's your game day?
Speaker 5 (43:31):
Yeah, he's allowed one game a day. So if I
come home and I see there's an NFL game on that,
I know he doesn't care about those teams, I might
turn it off. Like if it's in George, Like, I'm like,
choose the game you want to watch, and that's the
game you can watch. That's totally fine. Any more than that,
and it's taking the piss from me.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Now, Oscar's like, I want to watch the game. Okay,
that's fine.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
That's family time then.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Because I think is gonna have to watch every single game.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
That time. Shut up. I keep watching.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
I'm a big fan of Like if we're doing stuff
around the house and where whatever, and it's cricket season
and the crickets on in the background whatever, I just
walk past every now.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
And Yeah, it's very different.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Different. But I think Laura made a good point where
I kind of just to assume that because I've got girls,
they weren't going to like watching football, And Laura was like,
try and include Marlen and Lola, share your passion with
the kids and it's been great. Sometimes they like don't
have any interest at all, But there's times where I
can explain the rules as basically as I can and
(44:32):
it's hard for them to really understand. But you know,
we would cheer together and I would say like, hey,
that's a try, We've got to cheer, and they fucking
loved it. They love being included and taking them to
the game is amazing. And I know you're really good
ash going to manly games and you include the family
and the kids with your passion, and I think if
you can cross it over and you can blend, that's
a beautiful thing.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
That's a great idea. They just want the attention. They
just want your attention and they want to know that
like they're part of the family and feeling loved.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah, I I like, I want to combine two things.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
The first one is I think you've said one live
game because you can always watch her on repaid later.
But if April said to me, hey, and she has
done actually before, she's like, what day's Manly playing this week?
Speaker 1 (45:12):
She has said that to preemp that I definitely want
to watch that game. I'll miss it for something in particular,
like if.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
She's like, Hey, I wanted to go out to dinner
with you on Saturday and night I know Manly's playing.
How about we go for dinner and come back and
you can watch you can watch it on and that case,
I turn all my notifications off, so I'm not getting
those group chats.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I think that's fair also as well, I think really important.
Don't spring it on him. If you haven't discussed the date.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Night on Saturday and it's Saturday and you said, hey,
how about we going to date night and he was
really looking forward to watch that game, You're just gonna
set a bad tone.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
But if you're like during the week like, hey, I
know you're going to watch.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Some football on the weekend, and what you really want
to watch this game? Okay, great? What about on the
Friday night we go for dinner together, or what about
on that Saturday afternoon we take the kids to the park.
We're going to meet some friends instead, and then you
can watch the games and replay. It's all about communication,
right if there is an important game on or something
I really really really want to watch. But April was like, hey,
(46:08):
what about a little date night tonight? I'll tell you
right now, throw the TV out the fucking I wouldn't
the TV wouldn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
So I don't know, like that's just what works for us.
Everyone's going to be different, I guess.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
But I also I think, like I know, mate, smiling.
We always take the piss about people who play golf
after they have kids. It's made to mine who are
like still playing golf Saturday and Sundays after having kids,
And I'm like, man, you can't keep living the life
that you lived before kids after you have kids, Like
you gotta want a two year old at some point,
you've got to sacrifice your passions and your hobbies and
(46:40):
give that time to your family.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
So a friend of mine who really really into go
and was like that was like golf Saturday Sunday. He
started his kid got to a point like where he
was like, okay, well instead of playing a game of
golf on the Saturday or whatever, he would go and
hit the ball with his kid, you know, and.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Then he plays around.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah yeah, because then it would be like, all right,
well we'll take the key, we're going to go. We're
going to we're gonna hit the ball for a few hours.
But I have a tea time tomorrow morning. Is that okay?
I think there is.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
That's a great balance, great compromise.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
And then I'm going to go the pub. You're not
going to see me wednesday anyway, so but like I think, man,
that's so. And I don't want to shot on men
all men here because they're all the same.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
But we're so good at and it's a bit toxic
of you giving us an inch and we'll take a mile, right.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
So it's like greage boom boom. And my mum always
says it to me. She's always said, you've always been
so good at that. But then you're aware that you're.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Good at it too, so you might use it. You
might use it in the right context instead of being like, well, okay,
I might not come home tonight for another three or
four hours. Which it's so easy to just do that,
but like same with your hobby. It's so easy to
get caught up in, Oh, Mike's getting really good at this.
I want to get really good at it too, and that's.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
How my brain works. But I also try. And my
hobby is after hours. It is April's already in bed,
So if there's any date night or whatever, that's happening.
We've been and done it. I'm not getting on until
nine nine thirty.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
No one's missing out on all the dads in my
group because it is a group of shout to the
slow brows.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
It is a group of dads as a race league.
After nine o'clock is our time. Yeah, right, And I
think that's a fair compromise. And like, even so sometimes
it'll be like, oh, I'm one of the guys like
I'm going to the movies with my wife on our
race and I'm like, I do that. We were like, yeah, well, fair,
like that's that's completely fair because it shouldn't be the
priority of your life.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, it's a hobby, not an obsession.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Very good, nailed it, thank you.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
I'm waiting for them to come at me now. So
what happened a real man? What happened a real man?
That'll be the comment.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
You're fucking hearing one talk? Yeah right here. Yes.
Speaker 5 (48:39):
And it's like doctor Zach said, if if they're doing
that much of it, sometimes it's a bit of avoidance
because they're not feeling confident in the area of parenting,
so they might be seeing that as an aulet to
be like, oh, well, I can't because I've got this
game and then this game, and then it's a you're not.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Feeling confident about an aspect of parenting, educate yourself and
give it a fucking go.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Can I just after Okay, not to sound like a
hero here, guys, Okay, I don't want to do that.
It's not who I am, it's not what my approach is.
But I used to fucking dread putting Poppy down because
it was really tricky and I just was I wasn't
match fit pardon the pun, as.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Per previous conversation about match games and matches okay with Carr, But.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I've turned a corner with Poppy, and I'm like, I'm
so in tune with the routine now and I've gotten
so much better at it now compared to how I
was four or five weeks ago. And obviously, like she's
getting a little bit older and she's sleeping better. But
parenting gets better and it gets easier the more you
do it, and the more you're in tune with your
kids behavior and how they react to things.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Where everyone always pipes on about what you put in
is what you get out, and parenting is a perfect
judge of that.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Absolutely, because if you're like if your ology.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Analogy, if you're avoiding to say I'm watching sport because
I am not good at imaginative play with my kids.
Especially MAKESI example, like for a girl and as a
guy who never got that as a child, it's really
hard and awkward up here.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
But the more you do it, the better you get,
the better you get you know what she likes.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
And then also as well, she'll be like, one day
you'll be playing shops with her, and one day you'll
be at the shop and she'll be like.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
You know, it's like how we do it at home,
and bam, you'll go that was worth it. That makes
you want to cry, Thank you too. I make you
want to cry on time. It's usually nonverbal though. All right, well,
on that note, let's fucking get out of here.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Let's get out of here. Episode one of the New Studio.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Was it great? We'll find out we did cut out
at one point.
Speaker 7 (50:37):
But.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
I love it. If you've enjoyed this episode, please we
would love it. A couple of comments, A couple he
was like, just give us one. So close to a
thousand and a thousand reviews and Apple podcasts.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
And there's so many fake accounts.
Speaker 5 (50:51):
I can.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
I follow ups on social media at to notting Dance, Instagram,
the Facebook group is flaring, TikTok YouTube and you emails
and hello at dot com.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Any so any my god, I just wait.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Now I'm trying to wrap him up with a rapper.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
See what I did these conditions, So any dot of
dilemmas especially please send him in. You can stay anonymous
and we'll see you guys on Wednesday, where we'll go
into detail inch by inch of ashes tooth extraction, my
time with the kids with Laura away in India.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
And birthday party, and we'll see you guys then from bye.
That's a good sneakers Bye.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
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Speaker 1 (51:50):
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Well, we're here, we're in are we on? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We are. We'd been nervous as well.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I feel like it's a first day at a new job.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We'll have to do like a tour if you will.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, be quick.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It does feel weird. It does feel strange.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It does.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And if you're wondering why, it's because we're in a
new studio.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Finally, finally we're here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I didn't think this day would ever come.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Uh, yeah, it's here.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It sounds it sounds different. Does it sound different? It's
it good for you, it's it good for me.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I feel pretty good.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I feel I feel good.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, we moved to the studio and the same thing.
Now the studio, like this feels weird.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's going to take a while for it to feel
natural again.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
No, I'm pretty much there.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay, Okay, it's just I think it's because every time
we've been in this space, we've been frantically working. You know,
I've been Dana has painstakingly like rollers in hand, painting NonStop.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Really well, when was that? It was?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I I was watching you paint.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You organized the lights. That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Organized the lights. And if you want to know what
it looks like, on socials. You can see what it
looks like. We've got floating shelves. Look at us with
floating shells.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Look at us. Do you want to start the show?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Listen? Yeah, we've gotta start.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Sorry, sorry, Welcome back to Two Doting Dads.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, that's how confused I am. That's how confused. A Yeah,
I'm just I'm like fish out of water.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
All right, we tell you we started.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
If you started, you'll you'll get yourself back in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, Welcome back to Two Doting Dads. I'm Maddie
jam and this is a podcast all about parenting. It
is the good, it is the bad. And I can't
believe I forgot the fucking intro.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's all right, it happens.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Soon we'll have it on the wall. So you can't forget.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
That flashing at you. That's a thing like an L E.
D lie. I think could it be potentially static?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I think the one I got is static.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You're like, I want the static.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It's a shame we can't change it to red. Otherwise
the neighbors were looking to be like, oh the brothel
next door.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, I'm worried as well. It might do you know
when like a mobile gets too close to something. It's like,
I'm worried about that. I'm just getting a message.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
What else about the shoot? That's it pretty much like
we've been.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It's more of a visual thing.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, it's really hard to explain.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
There's four corners.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, we have a couple of power points. Some fake plants.
Can I just say I was a little bit nervous
about your shells because we both have shells. We have
two floating shells behind us. I was nervous about your shells. Well,
I just don't take this the wrong way. No, I
just like your passion for fake plants wasn't quite there.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I don't have the passion.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But yeah, and I could tell. I could tell whereas
a fake plant they get me started.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I can only surround myself in so much plastic.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But you've got You've got a little avocado that looks
like Macy. That's a nice touch. You got your little
f one cars, you got a ukulele made that one.
You've done very well.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
You've got number one day. How dare you? How dare you? Point?
Do you know what?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's why we pay vic the big bucks.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Have a look on social media or just watch the
videos and watch YouTube.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I think that's the studio done. I think that people
with more brother studio probably not, to be honest, every
time we do a studio update, people are like fucking
hell yeah, what cars are? Oh god? I fucking spent
so long editing that video, the studio update video, and
I had like two comments for like a whole day.
And I was like, oh, that hurts.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's going up nowadays, thank god.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
And I was like, Mom, can you just can you
just drop it? Drop a comment? And she was like,
oh the studio video. I was like, fucking a while.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Solo parenting.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You've been working your ass off as a solo parent
in the last three kids.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
How do you do it?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I mean, you know, you know, do I call myself
a hero? Both call myself?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Go on? Is that a question?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Or you just think it's partly offensive but it's also
partly lovely. The fact that other parents, the moms I'm
talking about, are like, do you need any help? I
asked no, I mean more so like no, you're You're
like that was very kind of you, thank you. But
other parents are like, do you need us to take
a child? Yes, but I'm like, no, I can. I'm fine,
(04:45):
I can look after them myself. And they're like, sure, UK,
do you need anything? And I'm like, I can, I'm capable.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Do I look like I need something? Why are you asking?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I mean it's lovely to be asked. At the same time,
I'm like, it's rude.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I've got this. Yeah, it's a bit like presumptuous that
you don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And they're like, where's Poppy And I'm like, ohn't.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It straight to my back? So that's a backpack no.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But but it has been great. I think one thing,
and I'm gonna say, dads are pretty bad at this.
We don't tandem parent enough.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Excuse me back it up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, I had a phone call with.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Tandem Do you mean just just regular missionary parenting?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Cut? Well, okay, let's let's bring in Vic, because Vick
and I had a conversation on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So you guys a chatting without me.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
We have one phone call, you fuckers. You were getting
your tooth ripped out, Yeah, call me, which we'll get
too shortly. But Vic was like, yeah, we you know,
mums know what's going on because we tandem parent.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Okay, I'm still yet to understand what the word tandem means.
In there, I'll just keep picturing a tanned bike.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, kind of saying European of you. Well, I asked
how Matt was going with this solo parenting, and he's like, oh, yeah,
I'm going okay. But it's funny because like a lot
of the mums have been asking me like, do you
need help, can you help in any way? Blah blah blah.
And I said, well, it's probably because a lot of
dads don't think to do tandem parenting. Whereas that night
I was solo parenting, so I had put the call
(06:06):
out to all my girlfriends and said, hey, I'm solo parenting.
Does anyone with a tandem parents tonight, so that we
can have like an easy dinner, the kids play, it
all wraps up in a nice little boat.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I'm within it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I know what you're talking about. It's like it's like
a group assignment, group projects.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yes, and you all get together.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Grip date from the Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
That's it exactly. And you guys be very familiar with that.
I'm not that familiar with the roses handed out of
the end.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Of the stay. You bring roses and then like one
by one, the kids get kicked out of the group,
and I just.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Came out immediately be like, no kids get out.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't think dads do that that often.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Usually it's like, hey, why don't we get together and
let these kids wear each other out? Is that? Is
that what I said?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You got it?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You got it, I got it. I can, I can.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I don't reckon dad's tandem parent unless it's at the pub,
unless it's the part that's a classic.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I mean there were somewhere that there's a playground, that's it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Like my tandem parent person is my
sister because she's a really good parent as well. So
it's like the group of assignment.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
You got to go with a smart kid, I would say,
punch up, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
If you've got a friend who's a really good parent,
just see what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
That's it. That's pretty much parent.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Not to make it sound like I'm a bad parent,
but like my snacks will go as far as like
some sultanas maybe enough, yeah, the packaged food, whereas my
sister's they're like putting out her four course meal with
a platter. She's like, yeah, she's a plum.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
She's a platter mum.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
She's a platter mum. She's good. And so my kids
are like, what do we got? Stana's fuck that. Look
at Kate's table of like checks the skin off the apple,
like she's going all out.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
April's a plattermum.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Like she'll be like, oh, here's some fruit and she's
cut up like carrot fruit and stuff like that and
something nice.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I'm like, I would have never done that. Mainly well,
like I would do it if it's easy and accessible.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
But our friend's daughters every time we see her, she's
straight away to me somebody because.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
She knows that April's got the goods.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So I need to I need to do more tandem parenting.
That's on my list of things to do for the
rest of the year.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You should get like an you know how when you
see one of those a four pieces of paper for
guitar lessons and got to rip off tab.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, it's just like looking for looking for tan parent.
Ha's got your phone number.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You've seen it around the streets in BONDI yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But apart from that, it's going really well. The only
thing that I will say that is fucking annoying. When
Laura is away is FaceTime calls and time it just
like never a good time with the kids because either
they realize they remember that mum's gone and there so
when you hang up, they're like, we miss her, and
You're like, then you're dealing with the kids being upset.
(08:39):
So sometimes she calls and I'm like ignorant.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, fair, fair, fair, what's I would honestly, I would
prefer if I'm away and I call, I would prefer
it to be ignored. And here's why is Macy all
of a sudden just does not talk. She just screams
at the phone and it's like, hey, I haven't seen
you two days that she's looking at herself.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Because the filters. Yeah, so Laura is there. Laura is like,
I miss you so much, and fucking Lola's being an
octopus on the filter and Laura's like hello.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
When I'm away. Dan never lets me FaceTime either, and
he says it's because the kids won't understand, and then
it's more work for him in the.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
There is no way I'm allowing a FaceTime call before bedtime.
And Laura is like, I want to I want to
say good night and it's like no, because then it's
just I'm then dealt with the mess afterwards.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, okay, here's a question on for both of you.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Please for the listeners, please, if your partner is away,
what is the ideal time for a FaceTime?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
If it's a mandatory in the family, I would say
breakfast Brecky's good.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, I'd say breaky because then they've got some activity
that they can then after the cause and.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Then go into eating a quick distract. Yeah, that or
a lunch.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Lunch.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Lunches are depending on time zone, because youve got to
remember if like, say, what's the difference there was she India?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
She's in India.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
The wrong guy. I think Laura right now it is
currently twelve forty five. I think she's just waking up.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
It's eight. I mean Indian.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
As an octopus filter.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That he's got food poison from India.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
She's like, what, Yeah, apart from that, what do we
now where by the time this comes out, Laura, will
we'll be back?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Is she back that quick?
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That did that? Just go quick? How dare you eleven days?
Eleven days?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Eleven days?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, I I would say I did the opposite of
solo parenting.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
We had a party birthday, So happy birthday to young Oscar.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
He's really coming along seven seven, same as Marley, and
Marley's his next week, just as friendly reminder, and so
is Vix. Actually this will come out after Vic's birthday,
So happy birthday, Vick. You don't look a day over
whatever today is? Wow, you look at don't look at
day over forty one?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Look great, Vic feeling? What are you doing? Do you
like do needling? What do you?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
What do you She's not a Heroin addic? What do
I do under a bridge?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I do the occasional burdocks?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, Like I'm sad, I'm I can't tell take
that out.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Take it out immediately.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Because this is recorded before your birthday. Do you have
anything planned for your birthday?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Can you tell us having a girl's night actually? And
Dan's like, I see where your priorities are tandem drinking.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Actually, after our conversation with doctor zach And about friendship
and you've got to work on your friendships and it's
good for your mental health, I was like, this is
a really good excuse to bring a whole bunch of
girls together because we get busy life gets busy and
no kids, no kids, and I reckon it's a good
excuse for people to be like, oh, like, I've got
to go to this because it's her birthday, and then
the partner.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Can't like, yeah, that's like that. You can't argue with that.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Whereas it there's no reason for meeting up other than
the fact that you want to catch up, there's really
easy to pull out find excuses.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah. Yeah, especially on the day.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
You're like, I said yes to this, like so long ago,
and then it's the day and you're like, I.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Love them so much. But also.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
And as a winter baby, no one ever really wants
to go out in winter. I fight, so I just
use it as an excuse.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Me, which is also a good thing because you can
do like a nice sunny winter ravo, which is I
would say one of my favorite times of Yeah, who
are you what.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I'm drunk. I'm not drunk. No, absolutely not no, no,
one hundred and ninety days so thinking something like that, yeah,
I lost out, you know, because I'm so good at it.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
But let's hear about Oscar.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
April posted the video of you making a fucking birthday cake.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Oh oh yeah, let's stat of the year.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I didn't know I could do that. I'll be honest
with you. She's like, hey, can you help ice this cake?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And I was like, well I can. I've never done
it either, Like I don't know how to do this.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You were making like a soccer like it was.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Green, like meant to bess. Then there was some soccer
people on the top. I've got a finished product, which
I'll show you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I've got a lot of respect for people who do
themed birthday cakes because I think the.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
R so you respect me.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I always have more.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So now I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You're putting a high up the pedestal. Thank you because
the ROI on a themed birthday cake, it's minimal. The
kids don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You get a couple of comments, and mainly April was
schuffed because all the comments that she got from the
other mums. Yeah, she was like c catered event.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I was.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I know, I saw footage of you tied up on
the couch, the snack one stuff. Oh yeah, you guys
were making you had like the kids were hard at work.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
This is what's really really concerned, you know. Okay, as
we all know, I'm not drinking anymore. So what am
I doing?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Snacking?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Snacking? Okay?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And silly April got all of the Lulli bag stuff
delivered the day before.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh god, how much did you eat?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, this is the thing.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
We said, Okay, I'm aware of that it's in the house,
that it's I know that it's here. And April said, look,
don't touch any of it or will be very upset.
And it was a proper like warning, okay, like.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
A serious It was serious.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And it wasn't like, ah, you silly boy, because I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
A silly boy, I will fucking divorce you.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, if you up your seven year old's birthday.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yes, that was the vibe, not you're just a silly boy.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And I quite often go for you just a silly boy?
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
So I was like, okay, sweet, I've got I've got
stuff I can snack on.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But once I went through that stuff, how.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Long did that take?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I walked in.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I walked into the bedroom at like eight thirty at night,
and I said to Abram, like, you're not gonna light
this conversation, and neither am I. And She's like, I'm like,
let's just put all the riff raff aside. Let's put
all the hula aside, if you will, and I will
buy another pack tomorrow. And she goes, I'm sad. You
(15:03):
have made me sad. I haven't taken anything yet.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Well, well, well.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Ease up, I haven't. It was way past that, okay.
I was like, all right. The negotiation started. What am
I allowed to have from these bags? There was so
much ship there, like what there was a bag of twelves.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I had my eye on.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Kids aren't like twelve?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
That pair like a cat.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I was really trying to get this and I was like, okay,
what about this bag of twelves half a bag of
Leamington's And she was like, no, the.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Leamingtons are for the adults.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I was like, well, they're not going to miss them anyway.
I ended up settling on a bag of twelves and
I ate the whole fucking thing and I enjoyed it.
I'm not with sha.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Where did you eat them in the living room with
my mouth?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Thank god?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You didn't eat them next to April? No, because every
Russell you'd be like, no, it's in the other room.
You can't eat in front of the room. But I
tipped to my credit.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
The first thing I did before getting a tooth ripped
out was by a packet Its well good boy.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I bought two because I wanted to pack up myself.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
So was the party success?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I will I will collate all the information I have
and update you in the Wednesday's out great along with
the tooth situation because as you can see, my face
has swollen.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I know someone actually made a comment in the Facebook
group because you were like, hey, dot dot dot, getting
my tooth ripped out, dot dot dot. We'll talk about
it later. And people are like this guy coming in
here just edging us stop.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'll be back.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Just a really quick update on pram parking at shopping centers.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I have noticed this too.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
We had a debate which almost ended the podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I just need a drama.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And the question was there's a sign of a person
with a PRAM, do you need to physically have a pram?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, because there's a few variations here, like there's a pram,
but also the trolley has we like a PRAM built in,
so like why would you have if you need a
trolley in a you can't both well.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I luckily I almost went to the shops with a
baby carrier, and I was like, well, maybe that wouldn't
allow me. But then I saw the updated sign. I
don't know if you've seen this, Ash, let me just
give you a quick little look here at what the
sign now looks like.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yes, they've been they've specified it, they've hurt us, they've
been listening to the podcast taking credit.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So this is the updated sign. I don't know if
this is just my local area, but this is what
we are now faced with at shopping centers. It is
a sign red. They've like it needs to be blue.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's fresh that sign and look.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
At that, and it's red now to be very aggressive,
very in capitals parents with pram in addition to the
picture of someone pushing a pram.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I think it needed to be Look, it's that whole
thing is you can lead a horse to water, and
I have witnessed it any times, people parking in there
with not even a child, and if not grandparent age,
not aiming at a certain generation or specific person. Sorry,
we love the boomers so much, but like I think
(18:15):
that sped. I mean that puts it to bed, right,
puts it.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
To bed, But I'm still go the can I also
just put her in it nothing more stressful than when
I came back to the car. I just have arrived.
I've got three kids by myself. What a dad, what
a guy? Thank you? Thank you? And I've also like
bought half a fucking kmart. And then I'm trying to like,
so Jesus, photo frames, get to it. I've noticed I've
(18:42):
got fifty four photo frames behind. And then as soon
as they get to the car, someone pulls up and
the like, are you leaving? And I'm like yeah, but
then you're trying to be polite. Get the kids in
the car, and you're like, I get it. What are
you going to unload the card of Poppy trying to
put her and she's like trying.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
To you trying to put a cat in a box
or something that, yeah, and just push your like pressure,
just banging ahead on the thing.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And then I'm not looking over and be like.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I don't even I don't even engage with people. If
they pull up behind me, I slow right down and
pretend they're not even there.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
I say I'm moving, but I'm going to be a while,
and they're going, I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Sorry, I'm sorry, miss mouth, like why are you whispering?
Like why are you why are you whispering?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, it's so stupid, so stupid. But whilst I was
in Kmart, I noticed that there is change happening and
there's an announcement. I'm not sure if you saw recently
that came up put the checkouts in the middle of
the store, yes, which people were outreached.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I get alive.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
But now, I mean I was one of those people
who didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, but did you take the time to voice your
anger on it?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Like?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's why I'm totally okay with people being like, this
is stupid and it's stupid. This is stupid, stupid, It's
all stupid. The whole fucking system is stupid.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Well, Cam's been listening. They're going to move the checkouts
now back to the exit.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah. I don't have a problem with that either.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
But my gripe with people is do something more productive
with your life.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
If you've got enough time to be part of it. Yeah,
But if they've got enough time to be.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Part of the backlash, it's saying, okay, well, how minimal,
how how how much lack of interest do you have
in your own life?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Can I defend them and sound I'm glad they've done it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, fine, I'm just asking.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I'm just asking the question, like what do something productive
with your time?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Get a fucking job.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
But it's those little tiny microaggressions that like disturb your day,
that happen every single day, over and over and over
and over, that make you go from a good mood
to a bad mood.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Don't only came up four times this weekend.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
But I don't they actually change it so far?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
No, they're in the process.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
How much does it affect affect you? Really?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I couldn't sleep?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Oh god, it's annoying with kids.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Will do you know what they could do? Put it
at the fucking back of the shop. Do that shake
it up a bit? I reckon if you're going to
really do it, do it properly and really fuck with people, Like,
don't just half do it and then get a bunch
of back got it back?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Dare you people shop lift?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Well, they're going to shoplift anyway. I worked it Camart,
big surprise, worry, no tweetheads.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Can I ask is there a policy when anyone asks
you a question while you're working at camar that you
just look at them like they've got ship on their face?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Did you have it on your face.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I think I did. I always like scream me up.
I'm just trying to find the photo frame.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Where's the ship on your face? I can't say it not.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
To attack the workers of Gamar, but they're not very helpful.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
No, they don't really know where anything is. But would
you know where everything is? There's ship everywhere?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Probably no more than the staff to be honest, yeah,
I do.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Because the thing is without worrywood camart is. It's a
it's a perfect loop.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
So like you go, you go the Bello drome, Yeah,
kind of, you go straight, you go a ship joke,
you go straight in the.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Kitchen wears don't just bypassing. But it was a really
good joke. You all stop and laugh. Okay, So you're
walk in.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I needed that.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
You walk in, turn hard right and.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
It goes kitchen where kitchen. Then you move into like
homewares but via storage, which is great.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And now you're having got my bellodron. You let me know,
I'm getting give the listeners a step by step guy.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
If they want to visual this is all not And
then you go into electronics and you and then you
go through clothing and finish on the toys. I think
it's perfect and then check out. I think that's good,
Get okay, moving on. Trust me, listeners are like Gosh
knows what's up. He knows what's happening. I'm out here
living and every man, everyday life.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You might have seen you, listener, I'm talking to you.
You might have seen that we put a little video.
You put a little video up about sick animals and
donating for sick animals at tarongas well. Something fascinating and
exciting news, Matt.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
We're kind of the official, unofficial official.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
We are official?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Is it official?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I signed a contract, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I signed the contract.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
We are Taronga Zoo Friends Ambassadors.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
So we are going to try and weazle some discounts.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I think we. I think we are. I think we
I think we're going to get some free passes. Ah,
we are because we are selfless, Matt.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
If there's any opportunity to give back to the listener,
that is what we like to do.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
They said, what's it going to take? We said, we
will only do it if you give us free passes
for the listeners. So how does that make you feel?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Out there?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Leave a comment now? Where on Facebook? So we'll keep
you updated on that. But we hopefully with there's some
fun things coming up with the zoo that we can
get everyone involved.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
In love it.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Well, I'm actually a zoo friend.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Did you've been a zoo friend for years? Though? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
We find it's cheaper, so if you go to the
zoo like twice a year, it pays for itself really
very affordable.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I would call this a hack. What's your approach to
zoo trips?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Something interested?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, so you have to be a zoo friend to
do this, but basically we only ever go to the
zoo for two hour blocks.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
What happens if you don't get to see the animal
that you want?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Or?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Do you do you tell the kids that you have
to pick one animal to see or how does that work?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I asked them, what's the animal they really want to see?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
See it?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
And I preface it that we won't have time to
see all of the animals, but we will see the
one you really want to see, and then we'll see
all the ones around that. So I give them a
really big pre warning that we're not going to see
the whole zoo today, but we are going to see
the ones you want to see today because you know,
kids have certain moods. Sometimes they want to see the.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Lions, do you know what I'm always I'm guilty of,
Like we must see every fucking animal in this april,
like every from the penguins to the eagles, to the lions,
the tigers to the drafts, every animal possible. It's too much.
You wear yourself out, and.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
The kids get worn out, Like I see so many
kids having tantrums and parents looking exhausted. Like two hours
is such a nice wind. So it's like they're still excited,
they're still pumped, and you still get to see the
animals you're on seat, and then the ones they didn't
get to see, We're like, we're going to go see
it next time.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
So you're saying it's a good thing to be a
zoo friend because you can go back. You can separate
the zoo into certain said some more like there's twelve
weeks of school holidays over a whole year, give will take.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
So you could separate that out and be like, we're
going to see the zoo this year.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
We went last time and I just sorry, I just realized, Fuck,
I was so close to remembering it as well. The
kids have gymnastics, and they have this little fucking form
that they It's like a little map. Every time they
go to a class, they stamp the map and I
forget it every week and everyone picked the kids out.
(25:41):
They're like, you forgot the map and I forgot the
map this morning? Sorry?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Can we print it?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
No, carry on? Sorry thought it was going to be
zoo related.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Sorry, so I apologize.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I like how you said you expectation early with them.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
You got to with everything you've got to do with Yeah,
and like I feel.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Like sometimes it's like you do it blindly.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Is going to say a couple of animals, and then
all of a sudden, you fucking get having a meltdown
because they want to see everything.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yeah, but I mean Lily's only got little legs, Like
she will not last the distance. Louis gets bored after
a while, Like I think, once the excitement starts to
wear off, we have a snack and then we start to.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Get out of that.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
My kids can walk one hundred meters and they're like
carry me, and I'm like you're seven and she's like
he help my knees hurt and the young legs. Yeah,
fucking build some resilians in your kids.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So what did you see? Where did you go?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Give us the give us the route. So this time
I think.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Because we had watched your video on Instagram today, my
video the two D one about the zoo we.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Save the animals.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Oh yes, yellow barely sugar glider. Do you see that?
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
No, I meant, did you see that animals?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Something about the studio is putting us all off, not
what's going on.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Louis really wanted to see the Seal and I was like, oh,
you know what, we've never been to the Seal Show,
so let's try for the Seal Show next minute. It's
so fucking hard getting them out of the house, Like
shoes are a chore, just walking through the door as
a chore. Anyway, we got there and they're like, the
Seal Show is starting now. So we bolted straight down
there and we got there just as like just reach
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just reached capacity. It had started. And yeah, oh, I
was like, don't you know who I am. I've worked
with Madi j and but we're down that area because
you it's right down the bottom. So we started at
the Seals. Then we did the penguins, and then it
like twists around. You see the pelicans. And because it
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was right on that time, it's feeding time. So this
is the other hack. Skip the seal show, go straight
to the seals. You can watch them get fed. Then
we went to the pelicans. Watch the pelican get fed.
Then we watched the giraffes and the chimpanzees get you're like.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Into the feeding the move. Actually that's a fucking good
hack as well, because when they're eating, shit's happening exactly.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
They're not just like lying around doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You getting your hacks from who's telling you this was
a fluke, So you've you've created this hair you should have.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
And also because we went straight to the bottom and
worked our way back, you missed the crowd. So every
time we got somewhere, we don't have to like be
like looking over.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
But it's uphills.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Your legs are hurt, but you gotta go u pill anywhere.
And there's no they're doing a new skytrain or whatever.
Remember they had to get they've decommissioned the current one.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I reckon.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
The animals at the bottom are suffering now because there's
no people.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I'm not walking all the way down because now I'm
going to walk allway. But you're like, who's started the bottom?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
What animals down there though? The seals and the penguins,
the cellar dwellers, the penguins that they're they're copping it
right now. Yeah, they look they're Although the pelicans are scary,
for I'm scared of the pelicans.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I thought the pelican was going to eat little right.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Have you ever been shot on by a pelican go on?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I haven't personally, but a friend of mine did, an
English guy who didn't really realize. So Narrawing Bridge, Northern
Beach is naving Bridge is renowned for being shattering people
being shot on by pelicans because the footpath walks directly
under the big lights. And I love it up there
because the bridge itself is a big hot fisherman spot too,
So they're they're just stalking their prey while shitting on
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people walking past.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
So a friend of mine who's he's not a big
guy anyway, and I picked him up and I was like,
what happened to you?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Someone's come on you?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, it was like it was like it was covered
and I was like, what happened is I got shot
on by a Pelican.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I'm like, you're not getting in my car, bro, that's
good luck. Get back on the bus and fucking back
off England somewhere.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Anyway. I look yeah, big ships really quickly.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Last week we told a story of how I had
date night with Lola, went to the RSL, going smoothly,
then it all went pearshek because I had to try
and get it out of the playground at the RSL
and to leave, and the only way I could get
her to come with me is by dangling the keys
and me saying well, I'm going to leave you here.
Someone has written in and I won't say their name
just because I'm not sure if they want this to
(30:11):
be anonymous or not, but they said, would you have
gone through with the threat question?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
That's a good question, Yeah, albre By your son. Have
you ever seen the live of them?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well, then she goes on to say I did.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
No.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Our family went for dinner. I was driver of a
drunk mom, dad and husband and four kids. Oh that's suck.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
The kids were drunk, that's your first problem.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I gave the kids a five minute warning, a four,
a three or two, and then a one minute and
went to the car fair and loaded the double pram
and my second still wouldn't come. I got in the
car and I started it. Nope, still didn't come. But
also to be fair, like how the kid can't hear it?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yeah, I used to do that. Actually I started doing
it again as soon as I turned the car. And
they're like, really, my.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Kids aren't likely don't have attachment issues, like they won't
go anywhere, so no, no mind of like, don't leave
the room.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'm like, I won't survive without you.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
So I like that.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm like, I'm leaving you here.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
They're like, no, my kids fucking don't care. All she goes.
I drove down the driveway. Oh, make she's sorry, she's
at home. I thought she was the RSL. Forgive me
so they would be able to hear the car. Yeah. Yeah,
So I got the car, I started it. Nope, still
didn't come. I drove down the driveway. Nope, still didn't come.
At the corner, my husband, mum and dad few aus.
He got another car and went back for him. He
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still hadn't budged. I drove home with three kids. They
got a taxi.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So wait they were at the RSL.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well, hang on a second I'm confused this whole story.
Actually they could be at home drunk.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I'm so confused.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
So she's the one about Could someone please explain Matty's
relationship playing analogy to me? I even tried going back
in listen, but I'm totally lost.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
That was a good hang on, let me just.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
What are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
That? That's the end of my message.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Okay, so let's move on. No, I think, okay, let
me justice this here. She left the kids. She left
a kid with someone else. Maybe we could give.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Her a call on So what's your relation to the kids.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
That's what us like, I was a family of kidnaped.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Hang On, she says, my soon to be twenty year
old son has never not come home when I asked again,
So she.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Left the twenty year old there, thank you?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Maybe it was her mom, Her mom was with the
dad and that confused loves the story, She's like, leave
it in.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Look, if you're listening, you know, like what the funk
I just listened to. We'll get some clarity on that.
But let's go back to the plane thing.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
My plane analogy was fucking good.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Can we replay the plane analogy really quick?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Can I give you an analogy.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I feel like kids are on this plane, which is
the family.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Right, Okay, okay, you with me.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Kids are on this plane which is being piloted by
mom and dad. Okay, and the relationship is the engine
that keeps this plane flying. You lost me?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Can you give it to me?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Okay? So parent did you make this up? Remember Laura?
Speaker 5 (33:21):
I was like, that's so good.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Mad she never listens to me. She's like, I'm like, Laura,
listen to this, and she's like, that's great, You're so clever,
and I'm like, wait till the guys hear about this.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
On the podcast, people talking about Laura who said that
me talking about alcohol being my best friend is the
most profound thing I've ever said.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
So don't take those compliments.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Let's know that was a good episode.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
You should listen to it.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
No, my analogy was that kids are on Fuck. I
should have practiced it before I started recording. You guys
have put me on the spot. I wasn't ready parenting.
Kids are on the plane of parenting, and the engine
is the relationship between the parents. Okay. So they're the
passengers on the plane that is. That's parenting as a whole.
But the relationship that drives the engines of the plane.
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Don't make me repeat myself.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
You're like the boss who's taking his kick taking you.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Talked about camp to say.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Whoa, let me get this out.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You're like the boss who you've taken your employees on
a team building retreat, on a.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
On a boat.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
It's like an office episode where it's like on a
boat and you're like, I'm the captain because I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
The boss, and you guys are on the boat. You're
like my deck hands. You're trying to make this analogy
out of something that could be so much easier.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
It's a good analogy, is it?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I can't even really remember the ending of it? What's
the end of the storm.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
You've got to prioritize the relationship to make the engine fly,
to make the plane fly.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
And how did you come up with this one?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Chat? If you guys want to throw on your analogies,
I'm also hearing those sessions. What's parenting like?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Parenting is like having a bunch of drunks. It's like
owning a bunch of drunks. I use that a long time.
I know that's okay.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
We'll both come up with the analogies for the next
housekeeping episode, and we'll lay them on you.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
And then I'll all sit here and be like, what
the focus, what do the moon? For those of you
are having an analogy.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Of For those of you at home, you would have
just heard me shake both these people's hands.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Also, I want the dots to write in and give
us their parenting analogies in the Facebook group, which you'll
have to.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It's not just about us, Hey, it's time for this now.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
You need us smaller than ever, know that we still
have each other. You can send sure doting dilemma. You
can sure donting dilemma Ella ever.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And do great song, great song, the best I reckon.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
We had an episodehere, we had like four songs just
it's just like one big song.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Jingles a jingle episode. We should do that at the
end of the year.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Do you want to read this one?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
You read it?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I'm so bad at reading.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Sometimes now that Marley can read. If I make a
mistake when I'm reading her bedtime story, She's like, it
was it was your You got your wrong and I
don't have time for that, she corrects me.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I don't have time for being corrected. By my children.
I just tell them to shut up.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Just like that's a compound shut up to sleep, that's
a content compound sentence.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Well, I used to also get paid to read the news,
so I do know how to read.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Would you like me to read it rubbery in? Wow,
you did say you were sensitive today, and that's the
sort of comment we.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Do not need.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
I was actually just trying to take something off your
mental load.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
Sure, she said, Okay, this is from Aaron. Hi, Aaron, Hello,
regular spelling just e R I N classic.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I would actually do you know what? I'd be interested
to know people's middle names.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, if you're writing in out name, we're not reading
anything out unless your middlenames to them.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Facts. She says, Hey, guys, not sure if you've already
spoken about this type of situation, but I really want
an honest opinion and your male perspective on how to navigate.
My partner is an amazing dad. He's very supportive and
caring to me and the boys. For reference, they're one
and two years old. However, every weekend he is locked
into the footy. He will watch every single AFL game.
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He is in three fantasy leagues and footy group chats
and then also has Maltese going for every game, So
basically from Friday night kickoff to Sunday when the bounce starts,
he is glued to the TV and his phone. I
know it's not normal, and I get annoyed because it's
my weekend too, and I feel like I'm the only
one who is actively parenting. Is there a better approach
(37:56):
I can come at this with. Surely he's hung the
boots up. It's time for him to move on and
prioritize us instead of who may win the Brownlow.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Right, First of all, my first thought here is classic
a of hell fan.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I mean, that's the first problem.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
That's your fucking first problem.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Who is watching a shout out to the lines prison
Lions who won the premiership last year.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Well she's Victorian based.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
So just to jump to his defense before I give
my opinions, please, I don't think he has to hang
the boots up and move on with his life then
they can coexist.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Right, But watching every game is a bit march or.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
We have spoken about how beneficial sport can be as
a hobby, especially for dads.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, but he's that more of like getting out and
about and doing it not actually just watching it at
home on the couch.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Well, if he's got three what the three WhatsApp chats?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Is that what I said, fantasy leagues?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Fantasy leagus. I mean, there is a level of communication
that I'm sure he's enjoying with his football, but I
think with anything, there's a line where it becomes too much.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Is what I think. The group chats on the issue.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
For me, I don't have a problem with that because
you're going to be group chatting with people and communication
is great.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Okay, however you do that is fine. I think maybe
you can watch a couple of those games on a
replay when the kids go to bed. There is I
think that's fair approaching the situation.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Although if he's in the group chat, that's hard because
all the group chat will be happening as the game
is going. So I guess he'll feel on the outer
right if he's watching them on replays after the fact.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Are we saying that everyone in that group chat, though,
is watching every single game or is that people just
all that whole group doesn't have a life.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Well, I'm guessing they're all, Hey, we don't know, but
I'm guessing that they're all going to be in the
same fantasy leagues.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I think with everything, there's got to be some balance.
But I think a question is how do we approach it.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I think at some point on the weekends there needs
to be time dedicated to the kids, and there also
needs to be time dedicated for mum to do what
she wants to be doing. You know, if he's enjoying
his hobbies to the point where it puts all the
responsibility of parenting onto the mum for the entire my
weekend from from Friday to Sunday, that's so fucking unfair.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, with us.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
For example, if Manly's playing, it's a he's watching Manly play,
because that's the only that's important one exactly right, unless
it's like original or something which happens to be on
Wednesday night at eight o'clock, which shouldn't be an issue
unless it's like, that's your specific date, and I don't
know what your circumstances are, but I think if it's
your team then and then you've had the conversations like bait,
my team's playing, it's fine as long as it's not
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something serious happening that same day. But every game, first
of all, how do you sit there for that long
or through every game?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Who's got that kind of attention span?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
How unfit are you that you can sit there all day?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Because let's assume that he's working Monday to Friday, right
gets to the weekend, there needs to be some time
for him to spend time with the kids and focus
on that relationship. And if he's like a fuck off, billy,
I'm watching AFL. The people who are sacrificing is the
wife and the kids. They're taking the brunt.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, I think like most of the time these games
are on in the afternoon, I would.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
Say I wouldn't know what she's saying. From Friday night
until Sunday evening, he's watching every single game, and he's
on the fantasy football so he's on the WhatsApp groups.
I just think, personally, as a mother and as a partner,
that's so unfair. Like if I watched that much rom
coms or that much TV, it would not be allowed
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at all.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Imagine if Mum was like, it's not live, I haven't
cooked dinner because I'm watching How to Lose a Man
in Ten Days.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Again, it's live.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
It's because it's very easy to say from five o'clock,
but there's no games on. There's no games on until
three o'clock on a Saturday afternoon. There's no games on
till three o'clock on a Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So if you're saying it doesn't matter, you can't you
can't know for sure a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
No, No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
I'm just I'm trying to understand here. What's happening in
the morning. Is he just doing his fantasy thing all
morning because she is tips in. If that's the case,
then it's like, all right, well it is taking up
your whole weekend. But I'm reluctant to be like, I
don't want to completely shit on him because it might
be the case that it's in the vos and that
might be a simple conversation with be like, hey, babe,
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if there's no footy on in the morning, can you
focus on ours?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
And I don't know if that's that's what's happening, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
I actually go through this with Dan every weekend, and
I feel like there's more games that kind of keep
slipping in a little bit.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Shout out to Dan. Should it looks great? Dan?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Okay, get ready to take Dan's side and I'm just joking,
just keating.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
I would never, but like he loves sport and he
loves NRL, he loves rugby union, he loves whatever's on.
We've got the World Cup on now, like fuck sake.
But I had to say to him, you're allowed one
game per day. Like I understand for his mental health.
It's a relaxing thing. It's fine, But there's back to
back games like some days there's like three in.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Row sip Saturday.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
Yeah, And so I'm like, well, I couldn't sit there
and watch a rom com for two hours, so why
do you get to sit there and like chime out? Yes,
sometimes it is in the background, okay, but if this
guy's on his phone and watching you got two under two?
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Who?
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I think? As we don't know the full details, but
I think it's important to make sure that whatever time
you are dedicating to your hobbies, that mum gets the
same opportunity with equal amounts of time for herself.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
But I also think both parties shouldn't be made to
feel bad about doing their hobbies. No, but if it
crosses over and didn't feel bad hobby and feel bad
a hobby and de session.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Is very different. But I think, right, what's what's your Yeah,
would you agree?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
What is your rule? Vic? In your household?
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Now?
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Dan, what's your game day?
Speaker 5 (43:31):
Yeah, he's allowed one game a day. So if I
come home and I see there's an NFL game on that,
I know he doesn't care about those teams, I might
turn it off. Like if it's in George, Like, I'm like,
choose the game you want to watch, and that's the
game you can watch. That's totally fine. Any more than that,
and it's taking the piss from me.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Now, Oscar's like, I want to watch the game. Okay,
that's fine.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
That's family time then.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Because I think is gonna have to watch every single game.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
That time. Shut up. I keep watching.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
I'm a big fan of Like if we're doing stuff
around the house and where whatever, and it's cricket season
and the crickets on in the background whatever, I just
walk past every now.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
And Yeah, it's very different.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Different. But I think Laura made a good point where
I kind of just to assume that because I've got girls,
they weren't going to like watching football, And Laura was like,
try and include Marlen and Lola, share your passion with
the kids and it's been great. Sometimes they like don't
have any interest at all, But there's times where I
can explain the rules as basically as I can and
(44:32):
it's hard for them to really understand. But you know,
we would cheer together and I would say like, hey,
that's a try, We've got to cheer, and they fucking
loved it. They love being included and taking them to
the game is amazing. And I know you're really good
ash going to manly games and you include the family
and the kids with your passion, and I think if
you can cross it over and you can blend, that's
a beautiful thing.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
That's a great idea. They just want the attention. They
just want your attention and they want to know that
like they're part of the family and feeling loved.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah, I I like, I want to combine two things.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
The first one is I think you've said one live
game because you can always watch her on repaid later.
But if April said to me, hey, and she has
done actually before, she's like, what day's Manly playing this week?
Speaker 1 (45:12):
She has said that to preemp that I definitely want
to watch that game. I'll miss it for something in particular,
like if.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
She's like, Hey, I wanted to go out to dinner
with you on Saturday and night I know Manly's playing.
How about we go for dinner and come back and
you can watch you can watch it on and that case,
I turn all my notifications off, so I'm not getting
those group chats.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I think that's fair also as well, I think really important.
Don't spring it on him. If you haven't discussed the date.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Night on Saturday and it's Saturday and you said, hey,
how about we going to date night and he was
really looking forward to watch that game, You're just gonna
set a bad tone.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
But if you're like during the week like, hey, I
know you're going to watch.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Some football on the weekend, and what you really want
to watch this game? Okay, great? What about on the
Friday night we go for dinner together, or what about
on that Saturday afternoon we take the kids to the park.
We're going to meet some friends instead, and then you
can watch the games and replay. It's all about communication,
right if there is an important game on or something
I really really really want to watch. But April was like, hey,
(46:08):
what about a little date night tonight? I'll tell you
right now, throw the TV out the fucking I wouldn't
the TV wouldn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
So I don't know, like that's just what works for us.
Everyone's going to be different, I guess.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
But I also I think, like I know, mate, smiling.
We always take the piss about people who play golf
after they have kids. It's made to mine who are
like still playing golf Saturday and Sundays after having kids,
And I'm like, man, you can't keep living the life
that you lived before kids after you have kids, Like
you gotta want a two year old at some point,
you've got to sacrifice your passions and your hobbies and
(46:40):
give that time to your family.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
So a friend of mine who really really into go
and was like that was like golf Saturday Sunday. He
started his kid got to a point like where he
was like, okay, well instead of playing a game of
golf on the Saturday or whatever, he would go and
hit the ball with his kid, you know, and.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Then he plays around.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah yeah, because then it would be like, all right,
well we'll take the key, we're going to go. We're
going to we're gonna hit the ball for a few hours.
But I have a tea time tomorrow morning. Is that okay?
I think there is.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
That's a great balance, great compromise.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
And then I'm going to go the pub. You're not
going to see me wednesday anyway, so but like I think, man,
that's so. And I don't want to shot on men
all men here because they're all the same.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
But we're so good at and it's a bit toxic
of you giving us an inch and we'll take a mile, right.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
So it's like greage boom boom. And my mum always
says it to me. She's always said, you've always been
so good at that. But then you're aware that you're.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Good at it too, so you might use it. You
might use it in the right context instead of being like, well, okay,
I might not come home tonight for another three or
four hours. Which it's so easy to just do that,
but like same with your hobby. It's so easy to
get caught up in, Oh, Mike's getting really good at this.
I want to get really good at it too, and that's.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
How my brain works. But I also try. And my
hobby is after hours. It is April's already in bed,
So if there's any date night or whatever, that's happening.
We've been and done it. I'm not getting on until
nine nine thirty.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
No one's missing out on all the dads in my
group because it is a group of shout to the
slow brows.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
It is a group of dads as a race league.
After nine o'clock is our time. Yeah, right, And I
think that's a fair compromise. And like, even so sometimes
it'll be like, oh, I'm one of the guys like
I'm going to the movies with my wife on our
race and I'm like, I do that. We were like, yeah, well, fair,
like that's that's completely fair because it shouldn't be the
priority of your life.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, it's a hobby, not an obsession.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Very good, nailed it, thank you.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
I'm waiting for them to come at me now. So
what happened a real man? What happened a real man?
That'll be the comment.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
You're fucking hearing one talk? Yeah right here. Yes.
Speaker 5 (48:39):
And it's like doctor Zach said, if if they're doing
that much of it, sometimes it's a bit of avoidance
because they're not feeling confident in the area of parenting,
so they might be seeing that as an aulet to
be like, oh, well, I can't because I've got this
game and then this game, and then it's a you're not.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Feeling confident about an aspect of parenting, educate yourself and
give it a fucking go.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Can I just after Okay, not to sound like a
hero here, guys, Okay, I don't want to do that.
It's not who I am, it's not what my approach is.
But I used to fucking dread putting Poppy down because
it was really tricky and I just was I wasn't
match fit pardon the pun, as.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Per previous conversation about match games and matches okay with Carr, But.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I've turned a corner with Poppy, and I'm like, I'm
so in tune with the routine now and I've gotten
so much better at it now compared to how I
was four or five weeks ago. And obviously, like she's
getting a little bit older and she's sleeping better. But
parenting gets better and it gets easier the more you
do it, and the more you're in tune with your
kids behavior and how they react to things.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Where everyone always pipes on about what you put in
is what you get out, and parenting is a perfect
judge of that.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Absolutely, because if you're like if your ology.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Analogy, if you're avoiding to say I'm watching sport because
I am not good at imaginative play with my kids.
Especially MAKESI example, like for a girl and as a
guy who never got that as a child, it's really
hard and awkward up here.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
But the more you do it, the better you get,
the better you get you know what she likes.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
And then also as well, she'll be like, one day
you'll be playing shops with her, and one day you'll
be at the shop and she'll be like.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
You know, it's like how we do it at home,
and bam, you'll go that was worth it. That makes
you want to cry, Thank you too. I make you
want to cry on time. It's usually nonverbal though. All right, well,
on that note, let's fucking get out of here.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Let's get out of here. Episode one of the New Studio.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Was it great? We'll find out we did cut out
at one point.
Speaker 7 (50:37):
But.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
I love it. If you've enjoyed this episode, please we
would love it. A couple of comments, A couple he
was like, just give us one. So close to a
thousand and a thousand reviews and Apple podcasts.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
And there's so many fake accounts.
Speaker 5 (50:51):
I can.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
I follow ups on social media at to notting Dance, Instagram,
the Facebook group is flaring, TikTok YouTube and you emails
and hello at dot com.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Any so any my god, I just wait.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Now I'm trying to wrap him up with a rapper.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
See what I did these conditions, So any dot of
dilemmas especially please send him in. You can stay anonymous
and we'll see you guys on Wednesday, where we'll go
into detail inch by inch of ashes tooth extraction, my
time with the kids with Laura away in India.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
And birthday party, and we'll see you guys then from bye.
That's a good sneakers Bye.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country
throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
We pay our respects to their elders past and present
and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Islander
people's today. This episode was recorded on gadagle Land
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