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June 23, 2026 50 mins

The boys are getting sentimental this week - after three years of recording everywhere from kitchen tables to borrowed spaces, they're finally settling into their very own podcast studio and enjoying the fruits of their labour.

Ash shares the full, gruesome story behind his recent tooth extraction and how he narrowly escaped the clutches of the "tooth salesman".

While, Matty is deep in the trenches of solo parenting, battling exhaustion, endless responsibilities, and two daughters who have somehow negotiated permanent residency in his bed.

Plus, the songs that made us cry, the unexpected tracks that hit us right in the feels and a debate every parent can relate to: should we already be pushing our kids to do homework or should it stay within school hours?


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Hosts: Matty J & Ash Wicks

Producer: Vic

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't know if you've ever done this go on.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I was on the way to work because he says
what we do for a job, and I was on
macy drop off, but I just went straight past the
kindy and started coming here.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Macy was like where are we going?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
And You're like holy shit?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
I was like, oh what.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Are you doing with the g I was like, oh fuck,
will turn around then? Ship like you didn't hit like
a row where I've got.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Like, we're not Sydney's like you take a wrong turn,
You're on the harbor. Every wrong turn in Sydney end
up on Harvard Bridge. What's the deal? What's the deal
with that?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I've also done it before where I've had no kids
in the car, not a daycare day, and I've left
and just got an autopilot, like driving a daycare.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'm like, what am I doing? Have you going to
do the pick up? And realize that someone else?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
The shame when you walk in and you're like I'm
trying to find Marley and they're like she left half
an hour ago with her mother and you're like, yeah,
I know, we're still together. Welcome back to two yoading duards.

(01:10):
I am Mattie Jay and I'm Ash and this is
a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
The bad and the and we won't give advice, no,
but Ash, I want to just for a second, just
for a hot second, acknowledge where we are right now.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
We are in a new studio.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, which people would know that if they heard Monday's episode.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
But YouTube, but YouTube, you can now.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
See the studio in all its glory. But I think,
and I'm going to be sentimental for a second, if
I may, I think it is so easy, not just
with work, but in life. You're just constantly trying to
get to the next, to the next, to the next,
you know, and when you have these little achievements, you
don't get to enjoy them that much because you're just
like fucking onto the next.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Like we literally we finished setting up the studio for
last episode the second we finished putting the last pop
plane in the last photo frame up. We then had
to set up the camera to start recording, get the
episode done. Just you know, we didn't have a moment
where we were like, this is I think a really
amazing achievement and I'm so happy of where we're at.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh, yeah, I mean two and a half years of recording.
In three we did a little bit at that other studio, right,
two and a half years of just doing it out
of a house with mainly your house and then my
house here and there, and then we came along and
we moved to a studio which actually gave us the
taste of the good life.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
We were like, this is pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
This is not good, and then at first we thought
we could never afford it, and then we realized how
actually affordable it is in Sydney, and it was like.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Give us two or three studios.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
But it has been like we officially got the keys
with this a month and a half ago and we've
taken that long to get in and we've.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Been chipping away. Don dan Vick's husband did a sensational job,
really really helped us out. Wouldn't be possible without him.
But then you know, you've had moments You've been here
by yourself painting. I've done a run that came up
to buy some plants, fake ones.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Which is honestly, the place wouldn't have come together with
that. That looking great. The twelve dollars light bulb was a highlight.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
But also I just want to acknowledge as well. You know,
whilst we do this not for the numbers, not for
the stats, not for the rankings, we do have the
love of the game.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah me too.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
But you know we've never had as many dots listening
to this podcast as we do right now.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Very true.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's amazing to see the community grow. If you've just
joined us, welcome. If you've been here from the very start,
thank you so much. It sounds like a dick when
I say this, but I'm so proud of the product
and proud of us, so I just want to acknowledge
that we are. This is what's that saying where they
say I'm going to do another ship now. Podcasting is

(03:49):
like an aeroplane.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's like a box of chocolates.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Three years ago when we started, when you said, hey,
let's still a podcast, and I was like fuck that.
But if you had said to me, hey, you know,
if you do start this podcast with this little Ashwicks
over here, wicklesworths Wicks as I sometimes call you, You're
going to three years, have your own studio, have an
amazing producer, have an awesome team that cut all the video.
Shout out to ness Locky Vicky, guys is such an

(04:15):
amazing job. I'd be like, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Here we are and here we are just like that.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
You gotta believe, Matthew, just like the aeroplane analogy, You're
gonna believe that it works.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Although I did forget something really important. Oh fuck when
I got when I got the pictures done, it was
it was a rush, right, it was a big rush.
I got the photos printed, posted a little story of
being like, oh got these beautiful photo frames. And a
few people were like, one lady goes as the youngest
in the family, and I just say, is there a
photo of Poppy somewhere? And I was like, of course

(04:47):
there is.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
There's a lot of shirtless photos of me and you
in this place.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
There's more shirtless photos of Ash than there are photos
of my youngest child.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
There's none of my kids in here whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
No, actually, right, that makes me feel a lot better.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, I just want to photos of me Max. What
happens here Max?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
So he will always look over the form of the
driver for Red Beoofore.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Was a four time world champion.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I mean we could not record with him in the room.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
We need good thing.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
He's here and we have a photo of that was
our very first ever record.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
There it is at the table. Anyway, moving on very well,
said thank you. Speaking of hats, yeah, we are all
wearing hats.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
We are wearing hats, and you're probably thinking, why it's
very sunny.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
We've put a whole skylight in the new studio.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Well, it's funny that we could afford the studio but
not the roof. Anyway, these aren't really for sal yet.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Think about how long it took us to renovate a studio.
Just imagine how long it's going to take us to
actually make enough hats to sell them as merchandise. I
know we've got samples.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yes we are.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
We've all got a different hat on that one's is doting,
This one says doting.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
That one's his school run race Club, which I very
much like.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
We don't know which ones will put into production, but
we're thinking about it. If you have any opinion, let
us know.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, hat's coming twenty thirty, nice ash very quickly.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Is there any song out there that makes you cry
like so sometimes a little bit of my.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Cube I Coldplay has got me there before. I really
had to concentrate though, because I'm not a big cry.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
You know that?

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, I was, I'm like, god, damn cry fiction D.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
It's when it's like really hits its straps and it's
like the guitar, the everything comes at once in that
one spot.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
What are you thinking about? Where's your head out when
you have that little spark of emotion?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's a good question. Nothing. I'm just trying to like
everyone else seems to have full emotions. Why can't I?
I'm like, ah, I don't know. Honestly, I don't.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I actively avoid crying just because I don't do it
that much.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I guess fuck, I wish, I wish I cried less.
You know what song made me cry? Katie Perry Raw?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh yeah, pretty good. In the write context, I see
that it's powerful.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
It's a powerful.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
See hear me rowe hear me row. You're gonna hear
hear me. He wrong.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I get it, and I just I'm in the car
by myself and you get a girl.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
The world is gonna hear me raw today. Get out
of the car.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
And I was like, shut up, it's about my kids
are like girl power. It's not about myself.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
I thought it was you.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
You're like, get wherever you're going they're gonna hear me
roll today and you're walking and you're like, right, shut
up to down, okay, sorry vic any something makes you
cry these conversations.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
Oh my goodness. I was in the car on the
weekend with my kids and we were listening to old
school Taylor Swift and love Story came on.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Really, where does that go?

Speaker 6 (07:58):
It's a love story?

Speaker 7 (08:00):
Maybe just say yeah, maybe Maddie, your head is looking
pretty good on your head and so is yours, and
so is my hat.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
This is yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (08:13):
That's the song. That's much better. But I'll seeing you
with the kids and they love the old school Taylor
and I don't know something about it was started like
the more I sang, the more I could feel it
like come coming up. And then I started crying. While
I was seeing I was like, what is going on?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
But actually it's like, mummy, you're okay.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
Well they're in the back seat, they can't actually see me.
I was hiding it from them, probably, But do you
think it's us.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
No, maybe it's.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
Suppressed feelings of the fact that I'm not married.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well you're engaged though, yeah, Look, it's not all it's
cracked up to.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Me.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
If I'm honest, it's the same thing. There's no difference,
be illegally behind.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
It is fun though, it is fun. There was a
moment maybe two months before the wedding was going to
take place, and we're still fucking trying to organize everything,
and I was thinking, why the fuck are we doing this?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
This is don't tell Laura that, and I would remove
same was like, are you are you enjoying this?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I want my money back?

Speaker 6 (09:04):
Pre wedding stress.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
The pre wedding stress is real. But then when you
have it's nice to have all your friends there.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
It is nice to and then get pissed on your dime.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, that's pretty much pretty much just trying part. We
can throw your party, how about that? And you get married.
I am one third through a celebricy course, but that
I've put on hold, I might go back to it.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Would you do.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Another one of Ash's hyper focuses.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Remember I was doing that, I was working starting this
podcast and finishing that, and I put it all on
hold to do this.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Do you think you'll ever marry someone?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I don't believe in the institute, so probably not for business.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Could be great for business, there's a few things I
want to do.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, well, like Jim's mowing, you know, like Jim's and tenors,
like Jim's marriages, two doing dads, marriages two dads is
both of us up there?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's like, do you really need two of you for
this job?

Speaker 6 (09:51):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
What about this?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Because there is a song that repulses me, like it
actually makes me feel it must be something psychological, and
I have worked it out what it is.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I know exactly what song it is, which I used
to love this song? What is it?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
It is Phoenix even saying it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Right now, Oh my god, I can't get through it.
If it comes on, I can.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I can deal with this because you're you're sing terrible that.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
This is glitching right now physically.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
If I'm somewhere and they put that song on and
I don't have control over whether I can change it,
I've got to leave.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
Oh see, I just that song makes me kick off
and start dancing.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yes, it used to. And I do recall a time
when I went to it was I was like, I
think I was nineteen and I saw them live.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
They're great live, great life.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
It's so good and I really really love them. But
I don't know. Something about it triggers my brain.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
It's like when you have too drunk off one type
of drink and you have a bad experience.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
That drink is then ruined, like tequila with april.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
Oh yeah, like samboka do it.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
That's a bit liquishy for hey.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I talked a couple of weeks ago about the fact
that Marley is obsessed with an artist called Zara Larson
Oh coming out to Australia. Her tour sold out in
seconds minute.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
To sell out things down here because in the past
we haven't got as many good people coming. But now
with the resurgence of the Internet, that thing called on
the Internet.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Finally Australia figure out the Internet. Even though I was
terribly slow, so fucking slow, I haven't got there yet,
but we now were like, oh, we know who people
are and they get here.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
She had the Howden, which is a very small venue
in Sydney, added another date upgraded to the Kudos.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
She's upgraded from Horton to Kudos.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
And it's sold out And someone messaged me a Dodor
and said, hey, we're doing a fundraiser. There's a sign auction.
You can bid on two tickets and I was like, fuck, yeah, great,
and Marley's birthday was coming up.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
You think I might get a bit cheaper here? Nice?

Speaker 3 (11:49):
I was like, like, how many people want to go
see Zara Larson? Would you see that?

Speaker 6 (11:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Probably?

Speaker 3 (11:55):
I was like, she's not that big, Fuck me jesus.
I mean in the Silent auction there was maybe like
sixty things to bid on. So I did my first
bid opening bid five hundred bucks for two tickets, and
they couldn't tell they're like VIP or not, because I
was like, it just says plus food and drink.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh yeah, that'd be like catered.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
But I was like I could swallow that and also
goes to charity.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I could swallow five hundred dollars worth of food.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Carry On Very Good get so much. They went for
five hundred and one thousand bucks. I wouldn't want to
see it that much, Nahn.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I thought about it. I was like no, first, but
second I was like could I no, absolutely not not
going to happen.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
Well, I've just bought tickets to Harry Styles.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
How much?

Speaker 6 (12:35):
Well I think they are about three hundred maybe two?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
See that's worth it.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Harry Styles is iconic looks you'll get there, keep out
of Badge's doing great.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well, she is doing great. But I think like thousand
dollars great, a thousand dollars great?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Might I add, well that one person, but I would
say Harry Styles is way bigger of.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
A superstar, like in terms of his portfolio at this stage.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
But did you say portfolio did you say diversified portfolio?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Well, he is. He was an actor diversified Dunkirk in
dun Kirk. He was great.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
Well, I have a question for you actually, because you're
thinking of taking money to Sarah Larson, I'm contemplating taking
Louis to Harry Starles.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I thought about that, but I thought it's maybe a
bit too sexual, too sexual. I don't know. I panicked,
you know what you know? I Harry is a big
actually like Harry's a big notist. Yeah, he's a big
old like gets his cock out that I'd see that, I'd.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Pay thousand dollars.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
He keeps saying, oh, put Harry Styles on in the car.
And then we went to Vivid recently and we went
to the light show that they do at Darling Harbor.
He was like, get me out of here. I want
to go home. This is too scary. The lasers are
going to kill us. There's too many people around, and
I was like, whoa, Because you don't like this, then
you're gonna hate Harry st.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
And when I was a kid, I got traumatized by
fireworks on the first.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
One was it was in New Year's Eve.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
And there's another song I can't listen to, which was
gotta get up to get Dawn because they had the
fireworks on behind it.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
And now when it comes on, like yeah, I just
I don't know, I think just like yeah, thank you.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Anyway, then we hate new Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I was with Nan and we're at this big like
fireworks show out western Sydney and the fireworks show started as.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
The winds Why did you want the fireworks show?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Because it was like a Christmas concert or New Year's
Console some ship like that, and the wind swung and
all the fireworks started coming towards us. It was like Dunkirk.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
It was like I was hiding under a tarp.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
I will back you on that though. I was scared
of fireworks as a child because they're very loud. There's
always a lot of people around, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
It's an attack of the sensors. So I get, I
get Louis.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Yeah, and also like he thought the lasers were going
to kill him. He thought there were what Star Wars.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
You could get like a little laser pointer. Great, and
he's not like getting dressed in the morning to school.
You can be like, oh my god, look.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Love me, lazers come here, but then you might get
stray catsy and like trying to chase the rend.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
You gotta be careful.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Hey, can I ask you a question?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
And whose podcast is this? I'm here, she's over there,
she's doing a great job over there.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
I'm looking at the people my audience. Okay, oh god,
be honest, be honest here. I had a birthday party
that Molly was going to on the weekend. I went
to the present draw and I was like, it's been
a while since we've topped this up. We don't even
have one, So you have to you have to buy
the present clutter.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
It is one thing she will not stand for, and
that's clutter.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
But it is great when the present drawer is full
and you've got a last minute birthday party and you're like, fuck,
I'm just dip in that. Get two things take some
time over.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Can you tell me which draw so that I can
come over and claim a little present for myself.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Whenever the kids present, whenever Ash comes over, like he.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Just I'm just rubbing.

Speaker 6 (15:54):
I noticed that we recorded there.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Well, not to attack you, okay.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
So I look in the present draw Snack draws looking great.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
By the way. The kids are always like Ash has
been here. Yeah, So look in the drawer. There's one
thing there, and I'm like, this will work.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
A toothbrush?

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Nice?

Speaker 6 (16:13):
I think kid's toothbrush, like.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
A it's a Barbie Barbie toothbrush. A boy party, boy's party. Nice, No,
this girl's party. And Marley was being taken by another family,
so I didn't get to see the reaction of like, okay, yeah.
Even Marley was like, yeah, what do we got here?
Like opens up the bag and she's like I think
it might have been are you? And I was like,

(16:36):
what's the problem And she's like toothbrush And I was like, yeah, yep,
that's not a present, daddy, And she's like really, And
I was like, what's the problem. She was like, what's
the problem?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Put it's from the present draw.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Okay, Yeah, I think maybe Nana just put it in
the by mistake thinking it was storage anyway, So this
girl is gonna have great teeth.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oh, you actually just went a lot went through with it.
I just go, honestly, do you know what's probably happening.
The parent of that child's probably like, this is actually
really smart. I think. Look, everyone's given toys. You want
to be the point of difference. You give the toothbrush,
and it's higing.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Who can be upset having a spare toothbrush in the house.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
It's great in twenty years time when they're like, we
have saved so much on dental bills because Matthew Johnson
gave a toothbrush to a seven year old on their
seventh birthday and it changed their life.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Now she's a dentist. Think of what you've done.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
We think what we've both them up into the course
of her life.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Congratulations, Look at you praising dentists. It's really taking a
turn I used to speak about dentists.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
We will, we will get there. But let's go to
let's Vick, what do you got for us? What's happening
in the news world.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
Well, I was before we get into a breaking news.
I love that. As a president, I.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Am actually for Okay, thank you I was like, am
I a bad parent?

Speaker 6 (17:45):
No? My kids are desperate to have a new tooth.
We go through so many truth brushes.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
You always buy them a toothbrush, No, Lucke, they're desperate
for a toothbrush, vic they seldom.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Each kid has about four toothbrushes.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
My grandmother still has my toothbrush when I was a child,
and she tries to dish it out and she's.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Like what every birthday party, the kids are like, Mommy,
was there a toothbrush?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Sorry?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Kids? Maybe next year? The okay?

Speaker 6 (18:20):
All right, Well, this breaking news today might leave you
a little bit concerned about your nighttime habits.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Oh god, you stop jerking it right before we go
to sleep. It's bad for you.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Staying up late to scroll through your phone at night
isn't just a bad habit. New research links it to
a significantly higher risk of early death.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Disruptive, thank Goodness.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Disruptive sleep cycles and blue light exposure interfere with cellular
repair and cardiovascular health, creating long term damage. Put, simply
trading sleep for screen time could be shortening your.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Life, Vick.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
If you want to try and give us anxiety, it's working.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Seems like clickbait to me, that's where did you find that? Scrolling?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
But that's what I'm good at, It's what I do.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
I think if you're going to whip an article out,
not you.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
If you're going to write an article like that and
dish it out to people, you can't put it on
the Internet because you're contradicting everything that you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
So you've got to put that out in print.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
Well, it's saying it's okay to scroll, just not right
before beds.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Don't fucking tell me what to do. Who wrote it? Facebook?

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Instagram?

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, you like trying to stop people from doom scrolling
because they help business.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
If you know what I have started doing. I put
my phone on charge downstairs at the kitchen.

Speaker 6 (19:36):
Good on you in the brick that Ash got you?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yep, you didn't even open that.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Okay, So Ash a little while ago gave me a present.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Which is very thoughtful for your news resolution.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
It was a purse beex box where you look away
your phone.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
You can look at me like that. You can see it,
but you can't touch it.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
A bit like a relationship.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
You can touch it. That incline just when you do
make you go boo. A little book on the end.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
How how long do you guys scroll for?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I want to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
It depends, depends, depends on how stressful the day has been.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Always, always a lot of scrolling.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Once I get my jobs done, once I've cleaned the kitchen,
you know, and then I can treat myself to a
little doom scroll.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Now I get excited it.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
And then putt Netflix on the background, not even watching that.
I'm listening to Netflix while I'm doomcro.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
But it's honestly, sometimes when I'm like I just feel
a bit stress, a little pick me up, I have
a little scroll.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
There, it is there.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
It is a little treat.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
It is a little treat. Ashare your tooth?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Tooth the saga the tooth the mouth salesman got me again.
So last week I told you about that I had
got rushed the emergency care double dumped and got some
oxy cotton and had a really really good time. But anyway,
it was time to have the tooth out. So I
got the tooth out on the Friday.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I was so anxious. So I just I don't I
just don't like it because of.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
All the bad things you said Identity on this podcast.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I'm worried about he's going to be like, I don't
know about that.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
But no, thankfully he's.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
A professional and so am I. I'm a professional patient. No,
I just like sweating the whole time. I'm just scared,
guys about what I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I don't like it, would I. I don't like the
feeling of it.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
It's such a big, strong boy, I know.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I just don't like people rummaging around in my mouth.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
I love it get in there.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
So I went.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I went on a Friday morning and I thought, okay, well,
let's just get this done.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's going to ruin me for the weekend.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Can I see it?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I can't really open my mouth that much. I'm a
bit swollen on this.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
A little bit swollen.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
Were you scared about the pain?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Was that a factor? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I just just the whole thing. I don't like being touched.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
But can I just flag Yeah, this is why women
are so amazing. Not to just ruin your story here,
but like, we go through so much poking and prodding
and so many people touching our bodies. It's pain.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Blood test. That was a joke.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I'm poking April.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
How often you ever peraps me?

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay? Right, perhaps me.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay, I'll be honest, dental work is pretty much just
peraps me work. They're opening up. Okay, that's going to
be disgusting. I'm not going to go any further with that.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
Carry It is similar you're opening something and it's uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, see, I know what it's like. Anyway, so I went,
I did it. I got it done.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
But it was fucking It's the dentist in the middle
of a shopping.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Center, right, that's a red flag. It's at the top.
It's just the guys like coming now. No, they're lovely
there they are.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
But April came picked me up and I was so
dozed up on Valley and and THC that the door open.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
I was like, like, what are you doing here? And
then Macy's head pokes around the corner and I just
like lost it. And then I.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Remember walking through the shops and people are looking at
me like he's this junkie.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
As that you guys had to go shopping for food.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I had to walk through the shops to get to the.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Car, and I'm like, hurry up, and I was like,
oh fuck, we do need some milk and.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Some bread was hiding behind Macy, but I was like,
she was like you were so you were trying to
walk in a straight line, but you're like, no wheelchair.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
No.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
People were like looking at you and all sorts.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Of shish and two doting dads.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
So I went home.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
Yeah, people recognize you a lot, do They coming up.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
And saying hi, and they're just like that guy, don't
go near him because you're always like drugged up wearing
a hoodie.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
That sounds pretty good. That sounds pretty good to me.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
If you see me in public, I'm drugged up and
wearing a hoodie. Anyway, So I left there, went home
for some R and R. But I don't really remember
most of the day. I know that like April left
me with Macy and I was like half asleep, and
Macy was like having an arrest to go pick up Oscar.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
And what I recall is Oscar.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Coming home with April and Lenny was there, which is
so all of a sudden, we've adopted another child.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
There was two kids in the house. But I'm spaced
on your head.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
You're like, am I hallucinating?

Speaker 6 (23:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I woke up the next day and I was like,
was there an a child here? They're like yeah, Lenny
was here.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
We were looking after Lenny for a couple of hours.
He was helping us put the lolly bags.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Together, looking after Lenny, are looking after you?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Lenny's like, is that guy is here? Right?

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Do we need to help him out?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
And then I was like, oh, and I rang Lenny's
dad and I'm like, was Lenny here?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yesterday's like yeah, yeah, I came in.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
He gave me big thumbs up at like six o'clock
and I left and I was like, sure, what.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
So anyway raised your memory? Yeah? I was.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I'll tell you what can we check? Was the procedure successful?
It was successful, but the truth was extracted. The tooth
was extracted. What was wrong with the tooth?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
It was? It was? It was a wisdom. It was
fucking black. Oh I forgot to bring it in.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
I don't have it.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Oh she was a photo.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Was at home? Bring it in?

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Sorry, I was. Actually I've inquired to put it on
a necklace for you.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
So I've asked a lash two Yeah, vastest prestigious jeweler
Tony mate. I mean, if I can put it on
a necklace for me, So we'll see apparently you got
to sterilize it.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
But doesn't know he won't he won't want that.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
I can put it next the poppy is abilitical cause
bit's aureo next week. I've just got body parts next
to my it'side table. If you get into my.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Collection, I just asked you, mom for your forskin.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Anyone breaks into my house, I'd be like, let's get
the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
That's how you get rid of criminals.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Did you go under? No?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
So what they do is they give you like it's
like a sleep. It's like valium essentially. But I was
too nervous that I had double dumb gummies beforehand. I thought,
if I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do it properly.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
Isn't that dangerous?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
That's an april. But I was like, live a little,
not if you die.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Anyway, I get in and they leave you there for
forty five minutes because and I was like, oh, great, okay,
perfect time. I'm going to get the doom scroll here.
Aren't interrupted. They're like, nah, you can't have your phone
because it's stimulating for the Because the drugs they give
you could go either way.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Maybe that Vicky were right, not that I would ever
question you, what were you right about? I just I
was like, that can't be right. But then they're not
letting people scroll because it keeps you away, it keeps.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
You, keeps you too alert, and like doesn't wow. So anyway,
I had to sit there with my own.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Thoughts like terrible, like who thought that would be a
good idea? And I said to the nurse, I'm like,
you's gonna leave me here? She's like yeah, I'm like,
least stay well.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
She's like what.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I'm like, you don't want to be here. I don't
want to be here, Okay, And.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
Then it's amazing how scared we are now of being
in our own thoughts.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh yeah, I want to be distracted at all times.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
It's okay for some of it, but then sometimes you're like,
once you pull on a thread that's a little bit
dark to be fucked up, and it's like then they
walk in and scared me.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Ready if you procedure and the crying in the corner.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Be like, it's like you should have you should have?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, definitely, I kept like I was allowed to have
my I had my phone in there.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
But it was like on the other side, of the room.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
That's a fucking tease.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
But also they're like, do you want us to take it?
I'm like, no, I can't live without it.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Look at it.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
While I'm in there getting a tooth extracted, can you
attach this to me please permanently? But as soon as
I laid down to get the procedure done, the salesman
started to sell.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Anyone who's not familiar. Ash has always attacked dentists, the
industry of dentists.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
And this dentist knows that. And you feel I've been
there before.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Ash refers to as mouth, salesman.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Mouth, mechanic, neither one. That's an insult to Actually what
was he selling last time?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I went, as you know, I had a tooth out here, okay,
and now I predominantly chewed on that side because I
knew something was wrong on this side, but I was
too much of a pussy to face it until it
becomes a problem.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Classic man stuff, okay, much like your mental health. Make
sure you check it on yourself. See what I did there?
Very good? I see you guys.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Notice before I got this tooth out and I was there,
I said, hey, what about we explore the option of
an implant?

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Because surely that would be cheaper if you're already there,
like whilst he's taking one out, just popping new one in.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
You think so, you think so, But there is a
process to it anyway. I got the quote back via
email before I went under. That was like five.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Grand for an implant insurance.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
What's going to helping out?

Speaker 1 (28:03):
No one's insuring this? Bro Okay, okay, I ship myself
all the time. No one's interested. Boober's like, no, shout
out to Booper because they actually did insure me eventually.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Anyway, So there should be like options though, So because
my friend had to get a tooth out, and you
can get the implant.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
By the hospital whatever that means.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
You can get a gold tooth or a silver tube ambulance.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Can I get one of them in? I don't know
what I've got. I don't know what picked.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Up an ambulance on the way to get back home.
I don't know how insurance works.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I don't know how it works either.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
No, with your tooth, you have options.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I just saw a price.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
I was like, oh no, into the email and as
soon as I'm drugged up and laying there with my
mouth open, ready for a procedure.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
He was like, have you thought about an implant?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
I've just been in a room for two hours by
myself and nothing but anxiety running through my mind.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Thoughts ask me, then, don't ask me how.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
It was like, okay, well, we thought about maybe we
can do step one of the procedure now, which is
like they must like prep it and then you come
back when the when they've got the proper measurements and everything.
So it fits nice and snark, and I was like,
in my head, but.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
It's a wisdom too that no one getting fucking in.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
My head the whole time that you said something the
other day and like, dentist sails are down in.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
My head for an hour, I laid.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
There record I never said that you did, because.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
That's all I thought about for the whole time. All
I'm thinking of is ge DENTISTI house must be down anyway.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
I'm laying there and he goes he was like, have
you thought about the implants? And my brain straight away
went to this motherfucker. I had that enough consciousness to
know that what he's doing here, he's trying to sell
to me while I'm under the influence, which is not fair.
And I all I had was an answer was like nah,
nah nah, And then he was like, oh, who's coming

(29:55):
to pick you up?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Is Ape' goning to pick you up? And she's like yeah.
He's like, I'll talk to her about it. I was like,
don't you take my beautiful wife.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Next mining, I'm walking out of here with a bunch
of gold teeth and I've re mortgaged the house.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
I'm so annoyed to have grills.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I was going to buy some cheap like the Dracula
ones like see. But as I was leaving, I'm like
distracted by Macie because she came and she was having
a great time. And I look over and the dentists
is with April with a three D model on the screen,
and I was like.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
We gotta go. We're gonna get out of here.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
We're not getting Yeah, he's trying to be fair, great effort,
he really put in. He really wanted that cash points
were trying. So I'm getting an implant in next week. No,
no one here, I remember that I got that one out.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Uh oh okay, so don't show don't show me Ulcer.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
On the other side, you're a bloody mess at the moment.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Bloody mouse salesman trying to get me back.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Drinking like Nick Jo and Purbot.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
It's been like, yeah, I honestly, I'm too spiteful to
be a dentist.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I've come out of a coma straight into the preparation
of a seven year old soccer party, which is the
party of the century, which has nearly split this family apart.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Really the transformation of Ash. He loves dentists. He's the
hate birthday parties. Now he's fucking missed birthday.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I still hate dentists, and I still hate birthday parties. Okay, okay,
but sometimes you just gotta play.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Nice because it's just easier. So April has been planning.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
This birthday party for fucking what feels like forever, at
this indoor soccer thing anyway.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
So we've got individual boxes for each kid with food.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
She's gone all out on this thing, which I'm like
to Oscar, don't get.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Used to this. So twenty four or so kids boys only. No,
there was some girls there for the soccer team.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, it was mainly the soccer team and a couple
of kids from his class. Anyway, So twenty four lollibags,
twenty four individual little snack box for these kids. I
learned how to icic cake on the spot, classic me.
That was flawless, smooth. No one's ever seen a cake
is good. Nobody's a little wonky. But how do you?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
It's nice for you to come to.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
You.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
I did put it out there, but I knew that
you were. You did say, look, i'm single parenting. I
was like, well, I understand, I completely understand, but I
knew kids love the Lolli bags.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
But he's good. He's good, and.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
So does me.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
But I didn't know that there's one child who loves
Lolli bags more than anyone. And I want to pick
to see if you, I'm going to show you a
video of who you think likes Lolli bags the most.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Who wants a Lollly bag? What did she come out
of nowhere?

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (32:53):
How's the pace on the girl?

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Look at the cadence, those little legs into a sucker
court and it's just like like vultures swarming, swarming, and
then out of nowhere they all run to this one
little daughter exit the field. And then there's one child.
She's like fifty meters ahead of everyone else.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
She came out of nowhere she's like running up the hallway.
I quite like being up there, felt like a bit of.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
An overlord children. It's like if there's a riot, he's
like pops up, popping them off.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Who would like a Lolli bar?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, unlocked the door.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Great result.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, so lots of presents, lots of kids, lots of screaming.
But we all went home and napped for like three
hours and then now woken up in Oscar's sick.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
She's sick.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Everyone's sick at the moment. If you're not sick, consider
yourselves one of the lucky ones. It's coming. It'll get
your You know what's really sad. It makes me a
little bit sad. I didn't realize this, but in Lola's
kindy class there's only four girls including Lola and the whole.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
How many kidney classes are there though, three?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
This is a real shortage of girls in that year.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
That's the same as Louis year.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Girl. Yeah we got too many.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
Yeah, it's like there's some sort of boy baby boom, like. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
The repercussions of that, I'm now realizing is that there's
just not that many birthday parties because the boys are
doing like Lola sounds amazing. No, but no, but for lot.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
For Lola, she didn't get any day.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Marley had another birthday party. There's heaps of girls in
her class. And Lola was like, I never get to
go to birthday parties. And I'm like, oh breaks my heart.
What about Chaz, Yeah, she's.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
A lot of birthday parties.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Well she's got she's in another class. Oh, Chaz is
my niece. She's the same school, same year, but in
another class.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Can't they just group or I mean group all the
girls together and then then you have heaps of parties.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
That's not gonna happen. It's always going to be per class,
not per year.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Okay, because then it's like boy and girl parties, Like.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
All the boys have boy parties and there's no girls
for girls.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
That's not right. KINDI should be a whole class. Yeah,
isn't that the unspoken rule?

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Is that a rule?

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Is it a rule?

Speaker 6 (35:08):
In kindergarten? You should have the whole class because otherwise
people like Lolo get left out?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
What I cost a living?

Speaker 6 (35:15):
So yes, I've taken that into consideration.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
When did you take that just that after I've said it?

Speaker 6 (35:21):
No, because Louis I gave him the option. I said,
you're gonna have a whole class party, or you can
have a special day with your two closest mates. So
he chose special day.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
It's smart.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Love that cheaper too.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, you're like convincing him.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
You're like, or you can have a really special day
or Yeah, kids everywhere.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
People here, we're.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
Going to go to the aquarium. We're going to get
happy meals, and then we're going to go to the
playground and then have ice cream. Like that's way better
than a party.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Well maybe if I was invited to Oscar.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Fucking kids everywhere. You don't want to go to that
ship show, poor little Lolla.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah I invited to I can't.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
A couple of girls there. There was a Laza Rosy Ivy.
All the girls are my favorite because they're like, yeah,
what's up?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
High five and all the boys are like I thought it,
shut up, and then they'll like throw a ball at
my head. I'll tell you one thing, though, please with
a party, like they get a soccer party, lots of
tears and just out of the blue, they whacked the
lights off and put the disco lights on.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
It's like there's balls flying over and there's kids like,
who's the idea.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
In an arena with the bull sports to turn the
lights off?

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Oh, they're just like, how do we get through this
next hour? Turn the lights off? And then they get
the close to you know, kids, light were close to
it gets in your eye if you had that.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Actually, do you know what? Do you know what we
did on the weekend, which the kids loved. We went
to our neighbor's house and they've got a big, old
trampoline in the backyard and I feel like this is
an activity that will never be able to be replicated
again with the same level of success. But we gave
the kids a tube each of bubble liquid that shit
last like thirty seconds, yeah at the most. And then

(37:03):
they had a heap of really cheap beach balls blown
up in the trampoline, which had like a net surrounding it.
And then the kids just slipped and slided yeah if
you will, on the tramplant slipped and slid on.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
They slipped and slipped and slipped and slid.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
And then the dad of the house, he's very handy,
and he's managed to get the garden hose hooked up
to the hot water so he can squirt them with
warm water. Oh that's good gear and the kids were
loving it. I was literally like we should go, and
I was like, hang on a second, like.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
A shower, there's no need for a bar.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, and they'll be so tired.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
It's like Joe. Kids really smell like clean dishes.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Oh yeah. And they jumped on that trampoline for like
forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
That's so good till it gets in their eye.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
I and I was waiting for it was quite dark.
I was like, a kid's gonna fucking jump in. Another
kid walked away without injury.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
It was a miracle, a parenting miracle, and is a
parent if you will, that is honestly, trampoline could either way.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
The guy the kid next door broke his leg.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
We have had it before where there's a zipper of
the area and if someone doesn't zip up, gets double
bounced out.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah. We used to have a trampoline.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
The amount of times I'd have to check the zipp
because they would and like little kid, they want to
bump into each other and stuff, so bump them straight out.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
The door, especially a little Macy.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
She's been double bottle until Tracy, she's been double bounced
a lot and She's like, I just like a.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Ball of meat in the air, in the air.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's such a beautiful way of describing.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
What's Mason, Like big, big, hairy ball of meat.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
But it was a miracle. And because I was thinking
to myself, I've got you, Laura is still away at
the moment. No, no, I don't need it, don't. The
claps are getting softer and like more weak. This is
probably the last time I get a round of applause,
so I appreciate it. But I was like staring down
the barrel of doing by myself with three kids not anymore.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
They're all soaped up, and I was like, but it was.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
It was a miracle, but I did it. We still
have little pinch points. Bedtime is the hardest part because
you're like you're just juggling act juggling act, you know,
trying to like get Poppy down. She's not going down.
The other kids are still making too much noise. You're like,
I'm trying to get Poppy down. And I came in,
finally got Poppy down. Came in and I was like,
I was like clearly exhausted, and Lola took me and

(39:26):
she's like, you're doing a good job.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I must have made a real like real sh.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
What next? So what's the fucking story?

Speaker 1 (39:38):
My kids are more like, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
No?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
She was like, you know what dare you're doing?

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Hanging their pal hanging their and I'm hungry. By the way,
while you're at it, while you're down at your lowest,
you're doing a good job. But I'm hungry.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
No, I needed it.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Someone did say you gotta let them know, because I
was like, I'm by myself here, guys, you know I'm
doing the best I can. And Lola, it was so
weird roles revert. She was like, don't worry, Mommy will
be home soon and this will all be over.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
It definitely won't be over, but we'll make it will
make you think like it's all gonna be okay.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
I was her laugh and she's like, hang in there.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Have you had many of them in your bed every night? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Okay everyone, Marley, yes, Lola, yes, Poppy. As far as
I know, she's sleeping through. And that was my biggest
That was my biggest concern because I was like such
a deep sleeper. It was such a deep sleeper, and
Laura was like just like, please if she makes noise,
get up, and I was like, I don't know. She is, well,

(40:39):
I'm asleep. I can't I know.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
And that's we don't have.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
We don't get the same thing that mum gets, which
is like I can't hear the busy main road at
the front, but.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I'll hear the murmur of my child, like I'll hear that.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I went through a phase where I could just like
know what every noise in my house was.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I'm quite a light sleeper unlike you.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
I can hear are every I know, when a kid's
just moving around in their bed, I can hear the
slight had that creak of that particular bed. So like
the ladder on the on the bunk bed, one of
the screws is missing, which I found in makes his bed.
She's trying to planning a prison escape some sort of
ship like that, And I was like, I know the
exact noise it makes when someone's foot touches it.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
And I hear that. I'm like, back to bed.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
You hear the autopilot?

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, I'm like doors shut, headphones on the whole bit.
I'm like, go back to bed, and I can't. Yeah,
there's like also my shoddy tradesmanship where I've done a
bit of flooring is a bit of a creek.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
What's with you on the missing screws? Not to have
a go at you, but like everything you made here,
you're like, the screw won't go in.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
There's always one one screw doesn't line up.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
So I've just given up. It's kind of like an
analogy in life. There's always going to be one screw
that doesn't go well.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Set all set, But Laura is like, how's sleeping? And
I'm like, yeah, she's up a few times.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, you've got it. Yeah, once or twice. Never let
him know how good it is and how it is.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
First two nights I wake up at like six thirty
when Lola wakes up, and I'd be like, oh fuck,
I have run into a room and peek in and
be like, oh thank god, check your pulse. It's bloody stressful.
But she's sleeping like a champion.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Oh how good?

Speaker 2 (42:21):
And then well she won't have the scent of Oh
she's not breastfeeding anywayre is she all the bottle?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
My guy?

Speaker 6 (42:25):
How old is she now?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
She is eight months? Just got eight months?

Speaker 1 (42:29):
What's what's the actual birthday?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Of Poppy twenty four September.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I'll never forget that.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Thank you? Can I just say going to bed. That's tough.
That's tough solo. Another tough part is homework. Homework is
bloody tough. I was like, surely I can get this
done in ten minutes with Marley.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
I think it's a waste of time.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
What do you do with Oscar?

Speaker 1 (42:52):
This is what I want to know.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
If you just did the work at school that we
pay fees for, you wouldn't have to bring it home,
wouldn't be homework you pay fees. But we just forget
all of last year, not a single piece of homework with.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Nothing reading.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
He's great, he can read, he can read.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Who's teaching him?

Speaker 1 (43:17):
I guess him. That's good, it's fine. I think it's fine.

Speaker 6 (43:22):
Do you know what I keep coming back to when
I don't do my home, sorry, when we don't go
on Louis. In Scandinavia, they don't start school until they're seven,
and they have the highest rates of intelligence, success, happiness.
And it's because they give those kids an extra year
of play before their brains are developed, so they've I
think they've worked out. When a kid turns seven their

(43:43):
brain is developed and ready to grow and learn and
so all that sort of stuff. But if you do
it before then, and especially if you're pushing kids, then
it can actually send them the opposite direction because they
won't want to learn because it's so hard. And when
I'm doing Louis reading, I can literally see the fatigue
set into their little eyes as they're reading the pages,

(44:03):
and it's like, I don't know if I should keep going.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
But I also because we've never done it, I'm.

Speaker 6 (44:09):
So competitive though as well that I'm like, read the book.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
I was pushing so hard. Marley had all she had
to do choose artwork and be from a book, can
be anywhere. Laura had a little painting or some flowers.
You had to pick the artwork write four sentences about
that artwork. And I was like, that'll take us two seconds.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Four sentences seems like a lot.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
So this is about flowers, and this artwork makes it
feel happy because the flowers are bright, right, that's what
we're talking about. I was there for an hour. I
was there for an hour, and I was like, she
makes a mistake. She's like, I'll start again, and I'm like,
just just cross it out.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Who cares.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Fucking capitals? Also, I was like, guys, how do we
want to do this? Do you want to go to
the park first and then we'll do our homework afterwards,
And they were like absolutely, because we could do our
homework first. It's like, don't look at me like that guy.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Just do what Ash does and don't do it. What's
gonna happen. What's the fucking worst that's gonna happen. It's like, oh,
I didn't get that in their thirties, didn't get.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
That job because I didn't do that one day of
fucking home, Like, shut up, it's just it's do it
at school, schoolwork.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
The fear of him falling behind though in class keeps
me up at night. So Louis got sent home a
special writing pack to practice his fine motor skills so
he can catch up to the class in his writing.
And I was like, my son's.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Going behind what seven or six?

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Five? Yeah, but that's when it starts then, and then
imagine they fall behind in grade one, then grade two,
grade three, and then grade seven. Imagine imagine what.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
If they concentrated on other things and better things and
things that could improve their life significantly down the track. Again,
we're gonna talk about the rombus because no one's mentioned
a rombus to me. And like when I was a child,
they were like, well, make sure you carry the seven.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
I haven't carried a seven this whole time.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Who's carrying the seven? Like in maths whatever that means
for carry the seven?

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Well, exactly where's it going? What's They're just like, why
don't you subtract? I'll tell you what you should do.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
I don't forget to act to carry the seven.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Timmy's got eight apples, he gives one to Matt and
now he's got fifteen apples.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Who's carrying the seven?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Fucking Timmy where it's his Romberson who's carrying the seven? Like,
fucking who cares? Do you know what you should do?
Teach Louis taxes that'll really help him.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
Well, I'm actually just like, okay, let's just focus on
his emotional smart intelligence because that is something that he
will carry for the rest.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Of this Yeah, honestly, I think it was.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
It was eight o'clock and I was still like trying
to get I was like, you three sentences in, we've
got one more to go. Keep on pushing to stay focused.
Mothery was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
That's just Then the next day I was like, did
you hand it in? And she was like hand what in?
And I was like there are four sentences and she
was like, oh, I forgot that's it.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
This way, we didn't do homework all of last year
and no one mentioned it.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
No one, what did April do it? No?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I was like, we're so slack. There's one thing.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
We're just like, we couldn't be fucked. You don't get
would my trail my kid do, like gain a life lesson,
then do a fucking homework, like go to school and
do it. That's just my view on it, mainly because
when I was a kid, I didn't do.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Any of my homework.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
And I'm fine if it makes you feel any better.
People are like, oh, but what about when you can
get the kids older? I remember, I think I told
you this story. Year twelve studying for mass so I
never fucking did any study at all. I was I did.

Speaker 6 (47:22):
Pretty bad, Like which maths did you do?

Speaker 3 (47:24):
I didn't? I say, like the easiest of the mile
and I failed all my exams and I was like
year twelve, I was like, this is it. We're gonna
fucking do this, Matt. We're gonna knuckle down, We're going
to study, get the work done. Here we go, first assignment,
turn one. And then I was like, oh, trampoline. We
had a trampoline in the backyard and I was like,
I wonder if I can do a front flip? That

(47:44):
was it?

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Can you front flip?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Now?

Speaker 6 (47:46):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, Sven?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, look at me down Yeah, Like honestly, like it's
fucking ridiculous. And I think, like what happens is they
get bogged down. These kids get bogged down with things
they are on in for sitting and actually don't learn
it and actually don't take it with them. When why
can't we focus on him teaching them things that they're
going to be like yeah, fuck and double down on that.

(48:10):
Why do I need why does he need to be
good at maths, science, English reading? Why can't he be
like do you know what I'm really good at maths?
For example? Okay, numbers and really good at numbers. I'm like, well,
why don't you focus on that instead of can you read?

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Can you read the numbers? Can you read what it's saying? Fine?

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Like right, especially this age like if he's in year
ten or whatever, and it's like, hey, these sort of
things you really.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Need to knuckle down. Fine, but now I'd much rather.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Him go, Okay, well, I want to learn about something
that's actually interesting to me. Like he's at the moment
he's reading this spacebook and all he's doing instead of sleeping,
which is really annoying, is yelling out different space facts.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
He's like, do you know what the earth comparison to
the Sun is? Like what he's like, He's like, think
of a beach ball as a son, we'd be like
a p I'm like, bo, that's good gear. Can I
say that? The popular? But like he's not going to
be like, do you know what's really interesting? Ash? Because
that's what he carry the seven's. Have you ever carried
a seven? I'm like, I'm carrying up Yeah, like you're seven.

(49:10):
Let me carry you over here.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Marley's just started doing maths as part of her homework,
and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Oh yeah, Matt, buzz trampoline.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Hey, Ash, we need to get out of our brand
new spanking studio. We do, but I want to say
thank you once again for joining us.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah, if you enjoy this episode, please leave a review,
subscribe whatever you want to do or join us on socials.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
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Speaker 2 (49:39):
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Speaker 3 (49:47):
Okay, oh yeah, we have a beautiful story about Jackson
and his little girl Frankie.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yes, do not miss it, So subscribe and you won't.
Simple as that.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Do your homework?

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, yeah you unless it's a life lesson, well said,
put on shirt bye.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country
throughout Australia and the connections to land, sea and community.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
We pay our respects to their elders past and present
and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Islander
peoples today.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
This episode was recorded on Gadagal Land
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