June 20, 2026 • 33 mins
Is Trump's Iran deal exactly what it looks like — or is there a secret plan hiding in plain sight? Iranian-American plastic surgeon and political commentator Dr. Sheila Nazarian escaped the Islamic Revolution and has watched the ayatollah regime operate for 47 years. She joins Joe Pags to reveal why this deal may be exactly the trap Trump intended — and why regime change could still be coming.
Joe and Dr. Nazarian break down why free elections in 6 months are unrealistic, why arming the Kurds failed, what retired generals are privately telling DC insiders, and why the left-Islamist alliance is the most dangerous threat to American freedom hiding in plain sight.
The ayatollahs have run Iran for 47 years. But Trump may finally have them exactly where he wants them.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I mentioned this from the very beginning when the President
said we're going to Iran. I wasn't very happy about it.
I didn't really want us to. But if we're going to,
let's do the deed. Let's just get it done. If
you're going to go in, make sure that you go
in and the bad guys that have been running that
joint for forty seven years shouldn't be there anymore. He
literally said on Night one, the Iranian people have a
chance to get their country back for the first time
(00:22):
in almost fifty years, and it might be the only
chance they get with this new deal. It doesn't appear
as though that's happening right now, and that doesn't make
me necessarily very happy. It doesn't make this young lady
very happy either, Doctor Mishila and Nazarian of course, Iranian
American plastic surgeon. You's here on Fox News. You's here
all over the place, and a friend of ours, Sheila,
good to see again.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
How are you great to see? Joe. I'm equally as
a peeved as you are.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Well. You and I both heard what he said the
first night, and you and I believed him, and I
don't think the Iranian people have gotten a chance to
get their country back. Did I miss something?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well, I think what he did when he said, you know,
help is coming is I think he sent arms to
the Kurds who end up up keeping it and not
giving it to the people.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So uh.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
He mentioned that, you know later on actually recently, and
he said, you know, I did send weapons, and you know,
I think the Kurds kept them. So no, I think
I think he wanted regime change. I think he's backtracking
on that a little bit to call this, you know,
a win.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But I don't think it's over.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You know. I think this is kind of like a
little bit of a pause. I think some of the
things he's saying make no sense, which just makes me
think that this is all like a smoke screen. Yeah,
Like he literally came on Joe, did you hear that?
When he came on like yesterday I think it was,
and he was like, yeah, I'm gonna have Isis go
deal with Hezbolah. Like it's just like you know what
I mean, it just makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm like, yeah he did.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
He went on TV and he's like, yeah, Israel's doing
too much. Let's have Syria deal with Hezbolah. I'm like, that.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Agreed, they agree with each other. Wait right, So.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm like, why don't we have the houthies go deal
with Hamas Like it just makes no sense a lot
of the stuff that's happening, and it just I don't
think he's, you know, all of a sudden become a
whole new person. I think there's a lot that is
being said to either raise oil prices, calm the markets,
or you know, make the markets hit record highs, bring
down inflation, get us to win mid term elections, and
(02:20):
open up the straight.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
First step is what open up the straight and demind
the straight. After that, we're going to go into sixty
days of negotiation. Like fine, we'll negotiate for sixty more days,
whatever it takes. As long as oil is flowing, you know,
oil prices are coming down, inflation's coming down, stock market
keeps hitting record highs. So I don't think what he's
saying right now we should take it at face value.
(02:43):
I think there's a lot of other things happening. But yeah,
step one, open the straight, check check, and we'll take
it from there.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It is doctor Chilnazeri and go follow her everywhere. We
follow each other on social media. She's amazing here on
Fox News, the whole thing, and she's told me that
she's got to do something with my eye lids. I mean,
we've talked about this. Having said all of that, I
think you nailed it when you you mentioned that he
armed the Kurds, and I think somebody got in his
ear and said this is the way to do it.
The Kurds will take the arms, they'll go down, they'll
(03:10):
arm the people. Ninety million Iranians will then take on
the two million who are sympathizers, are loyalists to the IRGC,
and they'll take them out. The Curds never brought the
arms down there, so that was a bad move in
that you believe the Kurds. And I don't think the
Kurds are going to be honest with us anyway because
of the way we left them in Iraq back in
the day, that we didn't take care of the Curds. Then,
I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's necessarily that, Joe.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I think it's because the Kurds, you know, they're they're
everywhere there's there are in a lot of different territories,
you know, kind of on the borders of Iran in
the mountainous areas and kind of more isolated areas. They're
not all homogeneous, okay, there's different sets.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I thought they were.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
No, they're not all homogeneous, okay. And I think that there.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They live in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
And if there's no guarantee that there's going to be
regime change, if if they come and you know, side
with Israel and America against the Iranian regime, and the
Iranian regime is going to stay in place, that's a
huge risk for the Kurds. So I don't think that
they would not want to see regime change. I don't
think they did things. I think they were calculating. You know,
we think the Americans might be underestimating the Iranians. Here
(04:19):
in the Iranian regime. We can't guarantee that they're going
to be gone, and we are taking a massive risk
of annihilation should they stay in place.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So right, and that's yeah, that's sort of the comparison
to making with Iraq Georgia. Herbert Walker Bush made promises
to the Kurds, although they might not be the same Kurds.
I hear you, and I'll learn more about that and
for next time. But he made them promises, he said
that he was going to keep them safe, and then
they all died. I mean, Saddam Hussein killed them all.
I mean that's just after the Persian Gulf War, not
after the Iraq War, but after the Persian Gulf War.
(04:49):
They helped us big time, and that helped us get
Iraq out of Kuwait, and then they just all died.
So I don't I see why they'd be trepidacious. Having
said that, why does the h GC or the theocracy
allowed them to even exist. They're not following the same
exact rules as the theocracy does. Why are they allowing
them to exist? I want them too, I don't have
(05:09):
to die. But how are their Kurds in Iran and
getting away with it?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Well? I think again, they're in the periphery. They're not
like living, you know, in huge amounts in the cities, right,
They're in the mountains. They're in the periphery. They're in
the border with Iraq. So in order for the Iranian
regime to make this a priority, they would literally have
to tie up military personnel, arms, everything to go fight
the Kurds in the mountains.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Like, what do they care? They're in the mountains, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, well that makes sense. It's doctor shil and Azarian
always appreciate you coming on. So let's break down what
we do do. Because I was really bothered a couple
of weeks ago. I bet you probably were too that
Akmadinajad was being talked about as an interim guy. I'm like, really,
the guy who said the blood of the Jews should
flow in the streets, that death to America, chance were
(05:58):
alive and well while he was in office. I know
he doesn't get along with the Iatolas right now, but
so what was Akmadinajab the guy that you, as an
Iranian thought would be the right guy to put in place,
because I thought Pavlabi should be the guy at least
for six months. Then you have free and fair elections
after that. What do you make of that alleged coalition
that was going on between us, the Israelis and akmadiina Jad.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So Joe, I think it's a little uh, I don't
know a little bit of utopia to think that they're
going to get to free and fair elections in six months.
I think it's going to be a windy road. This
is a regime that is very smart. Think of the
Iranian people in America and how smart they are and
(06:40):
how successful that become. Take that same brain and apply
a different moral code to it, and you.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Have the regime.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So to underestimate the regime and think that they've been
in power for forty seven years and we're going to
have free and fair elections in six months is a
little unrealistic. I think it's going to be a windy road,
and I think we're going to have to tolerate certain
people that might be able to throw some weight around
and slowly take steps towards that. And we've seen it before.
(07:09):
You know. Trump is always like, oh, I have, you know,
great relationship with Putin.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You know, I have a great relationship. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, And it freaks the left out every time he
says it. But I get I get what you're laying down.
If you need to use aquadinajod for a minute, I
get it. In sort of a transitory thing, it's sort
of the same thing as this person who's running Venezuela
right now, who is the vice president of Maduro. I mean,
but she's you know, in line, this Yelz Rodriguez, whatever
her name is. But she's in line and doing what
Trump wants. So Aquadinajad could have been somebody that would
(07:39):
be more trusted, certainly than an Ayatola system.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, I'm not saying he could have been trusted like,
I don't think I trust any of these people like
at all.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It would have been easier to control, though than the
theocracy he I mean, and that.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Might be his use, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So you know, we can't apply our democracy, we can't
apply like even even democracy, and Iranjo is not going
to look like democracy here.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I always said it from the beginning. It's going to
be a mixture.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Of El Salvador with you know, millions of people in
jail with their headstains.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Did you see those videos of like the El Salvadorian
gang members.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yes, yeah, so it has to be a mixture of
that and democracy, which is what it was with the
first Shaw. You know, that was one of the big
criticisms with the first Shaw was, oh, he jails all
the communists and put them into a solitary confinement. You know,
teachers aren't allowed to wear head jobs in the classrooms.
It's so discriminatory against you know, observant Muslims. But he
(08:35):
was keeping his thumb on the opposition, and he saw
what happens in that neighborhood when you let communism and
Islamism run wild.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So it's gonna be it's not the same.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
We can't apply the same type of government situation that
we enjoy here in America to that neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's a doctor Schill and Isarien. Let me ask a
little bit more about the Shaw system before it was
taken by the revolution whatever we're calling it. That Jimmy
Carter actually let it happen. But let's talk about the
Shaw system. I've seen videos from the nineteen seventies or
film I guess from the nineteen seventies, women in bikinis,
people enjoying the beach, people enjoying, you know, their life
in a much more free fashion. You wouldn't be beaten
(09:13):
to death if you didn't have your he job on right.
So how did they go from how did they go
from that to this? I mean, I would guess there
were still a lot of people who followed Islam in
Iran back in the day, or were there none because
it is an Islamic country now because the government forces
you to be I get it. Most people are actually
looking at Christianity. A lot of people are. There are
(09:34):
Jews living there that don't dare talk about it, and
then there are people who don't believe in anything. But
back then, wasn't it still basically a Muslim country? How
did the Shaw allow for all of that freedom knowing
what a theocracy that follows Islam very fundamentally does.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Now well, I mean it's very similar to other countries,
Like look at how Turkey used to be very similar.
Look at you know, parts of Dubai. If you go
to a beach club in Dubai, it's so fun. I
went there for the first time a couple of years ago,
and I looked on the internet said you have to
cover yourself and like all this stuff. I get there,
I met the Four Seasons Jumaira. Everyone's naked, so I
(10:12):
was like, I've hacked.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Shopping.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But yeah, it was very European, like you know, and
so was you know, Lebanon was you know, Christian and
Muslim and it's very similar. And it's a it's a
cautionary tale for America because you know, they installed the
Ayatola thinking that it's going to be an Islamic kind
of belt to prevent communism from coming south from Russia.
(10:38):
And you know they installed the Ayahtola. They didn't like
the shop because he didn't want to give cheap gas
for many reasons. And yes, Carter is like the sea
word for all Iranians. Our left eye starts to twitch
when we hear that name. And and so yeah, you know,
it quickly went to an Islamic country.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Now we see the same things here, right, They're.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Like, uh, you know, I saw a teacher was just
kicked out of a school system because she allowed Kuran
to be in her classroom, but not the Bible.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I mean, we're seeing it, right.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So this sort of like leftist Marxist, communists, socialist alliance
with these Islamists which have nothing to do with one another,
and fundamentally, would you know, kill each other, which we
saw happen in Iron when the Muslims came into power,
they kill all the leftists that helped them get into power.
But you know, the one thing they have in common
(11:33):
is they want to see the downfall of America and
the downfall of the West they view as colonizers and
pure evil.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And so they joined forces.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And forget the fact that you know, Muslims will throw
you know, LGBTQ person off of a roof, right, so quick.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Queers for Palestine is the is the most ridiculous sign
I've ever seen. And a lot of people fly that
it's doctor Schill and his area. So let me ask
you this, And historically speaking, I think you probably know
more about that place than I'll ever understand. I know
what happened in Venezuela. Chavez lied and said, we're going
to take the riches from the evil rich people and
gonna spread the wealth and everybody's gonna enjoy it. You're
gonna own all the stuff. And then he ended up
(12:11):
keeping all the stuff and he made sure the government
controlled everything as he ate Prime Rib. You're eating your
dog in the street. What did the people the theocracy
coming in? What did the revolution tell the people of Iran?
How this would be better for the person? People that
have a they have a three thousand year history, Shila,
How exactly do you it's all going to be all
for one, one for all.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You're gonna get the riches, yep, exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Why is the Shaw living in a castle while there's
homeless people on the streets. There's no equity exact same,
you know, promises of you'd be more free, you know,
there will be more equality as far as wealth is concerned,
there'll be more opportunity, say same exact promises, take zoron
Mamdani's campaign and rinse and repeat.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Well, then why exactly do the people of New York
fall for that garbage?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Then?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You and I were calling it out as it was happening.
He was doing Maduro's playbook, he was doing the Iyatolas playbook,
and they all say, hey, affordability, yay, affordability, And there's
no affordability now. And here's a guy that that's out
there complaining about the peak, the peak, the guy bringing
in tons of jobs to New York City because he
lives in a penthouse. So I mean, why do we
keep falling for the oki though? Can't we wake people up?
(13:19):
I want to shake them about the shoulder. You know.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know, Joe, when I was running for student body
president in the fourth grade, what I did is I
promised free ice cream Fridays.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I did not. I did not have your run for
a student class president in fourth grade on my card today.
But this is great. So you make the promises when
you run and then you do what you want to.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Do once you get it exactly and free is a
very I don't know, it's very, very attractive to the
people who.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You know, maybe feel little disenfranchised.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Maybe they majored in gender studies and can't find a
job right now. They think it's unfair there. You know,
their parents did college and now own home. Well, I
did college too, and now I'm just in debt. No
one wants to hire me, and I'm living with my
parents still. So I think there's a lot of disenfranchised
young people and the big block of people.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
In Iran as well as here.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
This all started on college campus is exactly the same.
I remember when the flash banks were going off at UCLA.
You know, there's what we call it Tarandulus here Westwood
is literal Iran, and all the elders were like, this
sounds exactly like pre revolutionary at Iran. On the college
campus is exact same.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
It is. Doctor schil and Azarian go to Narianplastic Surgery
dot com of course world class plastic surgeon. Also great
commentator on all things that are going on, especially she's
from Iran and we told the story last time of
how you got out as we're watching this unfold. I
know that you still support the president. I certainly do
as well, but we want some answers. We're not seeing
the memorandum of understanding. We don't really know what's out there.
(14:50):
Some people overseas are releasing something they're calling it. We're
not sure if that's really it. Who knows? What do
you want to see happen? We know that theocracy is
in place today, but the buzzing that I'm getting, the
conserv bit of circles in my ear, and even some
emails and direct messages I'm getting from powerful people, They're going,
just take a breath. He's working on it. Do you
trust that?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I do, and I'll tell you it's not. It's not
without a single day of freak out on my end.
I did have clinical depression about three days ago, and
the next day I called similar friends in d C.
And they're like, just let it play out, right, take
a breath.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Everything's gonna be okay. And so you know, I.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Mean, we can't name them, but I mean these are
people that people watching listening would know. And I'm going, really,
because remember he said that theocracy would be gone or
they'd get a chance to get their country back. Take
a breath, no more shooting for a minute, the go ahead.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I will say this too.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You know, I love General Jack Keene on Fox, and
he was very angry even up to yesterday.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
But you know, I've been going on Newsmax.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Mostly in the last few days, and they always put
me on with a general, like a retired general or
you know, somebody that was in strategic planning military action.
They are all so optimistic Joe that Yeah, they're like
regime changes coming and it's coming soon.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And I'm like, okay, as an American of Iranian descent
and somebody from Iran, if you could press the button,
I know you'd make the theocracy go away. That's not
an option. What would you like to see happen in
the next weeks, in the next months. What would be
a positive outcome here? Because for me and I'm Italian,
I'm matter Iranian, I don't want the theocracy in place anymore.
I think now it's the time. What do you want
(16:29):
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Speaker 2 (17:36):
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Speaker 3 (17:47):
You know my husband has a friend who does some
business in Iran, A good guy and he basically said
what he foresees in Iran is similar to Dubai as
the most reasonable step.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
So you're gonna have the same regime in place.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
But they've realized that, you know, ninety percent of the
country is going to overthrow them if they don't loosen
up the grip a little bit. And we already see
this in Tehran a little bit, that the women are
walking around without her jobs.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
They're mostly long. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
There you can watch wikipad Pada means walking by foot
and there's a page on YouTube called wiki like Wikipedia,
but it's wikipiadh and somebody is just like a five
K camera walking through the malls, walking through Tehran, walking
through different areas. It's really funny. So a lot of
women aren't wearing head jobs anymore. I think the most
most of them. You could still definitely get bothered. Don't
(18:39):
get me wrong. It's still, you know, kind of an
act of rebellion. But I'm what he predicts, my husband's
friend is that it's going to become like Dubai. And
in other words, they're gonna have to loosen the grip
on women. They're gonna have to give in a little
bit on this iron fist of theocracy if they want
to survive in any way, shape or form. So I
(19:00):
think that the next most reasonable step is a similar
situation to Dubai or you know how Lebanon used to
be with you know, better fashion, a little bit more
skin showing, hair showing. If this regime wants to survive.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
At all, it is a doctor Sheila and Azerian go
and follow her everywhere. She's an amazing follow I'm a
contributor on news Max, so I'm glad you're doing more
Newsmax lately. I think that's awesome. And to put you
next to a general I think is actually very good
because you're extremely smart, and then they're very strategic. I
think that's a very smart thing for them to do.
Can you explain the Mek. I've got a guide that
I put on my show from the Mek and I
(19:35):
didn't know much about it, and he went on and
on and on about how they were the anti revolutionaries
and they were the people going to save Iran. And
then when I did a little study afterwards, it turns
out it's not a very good group. I mean, this
is a group of people that would that would like
to make it completely, you know, whacked out country if
they were to get controlled. So if the theocracy were
pushed out, it would be a fight between good and evil,
and evil would look like the MEK. Do I have
(19:57):
it right now?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
So they member how I told you, Joe, how there
was the Marxist Communists on the college campuses that were
joining hands with the Islamists. The Marxist Communist Islamists are
the MEK. So they were the ones that when the
Iatola came into power, he started killing them. So the
majority of them were killed or exiled. And they do
(20:20):
tons of fundraising in Europe and in America. They have
tons of money, and they also have a lot of
our politicians here in America and in Europe on their payroll,
you know, under the pretenses of you're a speaker for us,
So they're paying a lot of our politicians to go
speak at their conferences. So then I wrong themselves. No
one wants them, k Like the MK and the Islamists
(20:42):
were the ones who overthrew the SHAW. It's like having
Antifa take over your country. So literally no one wants
the Mek period, end of story. And whenever we see them,
you know, kind of sneak their way onto you know,
any of the news channels, we reach out to whoever
we know.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
We're like no, no, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, they made it on my show for sure. But
then I learned more about it, and I've been very
vocal about it ever since. So in other words, they
the propaganda they're putting out that they're the freedom and
liberty people, that's just a lie. It's not true.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Correct, yeah, correct, they're they're the Islamists Marxit.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You know they're doing that right, yes.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And actually, just to give you an idea, they were
on a terrorist list of America until like I think
it was two thousand and nine, were on the actual
terrorist list, and when Iraq attacked Iran, they sided with
Saddam Hussein. So these are not yeah, these are not
and nobody wants these people in power, and you know,
they're not the answer. They're actually the part of the
(21:40):
problem that led us to this place forty seven years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Doctor Shila Nazarian. I appreciate the time and the access.
I want to go here before we end today, and
thank you so much for making time and how busy
you are. And again we'll talk about the eyelids at
some point after nine to eleven. The city where I'm from,
Metro New York. Originally we went there, probably nineteen ninety eight.
Just unbelievable majesty of these buildings, this beautiful place in
Lower Manhattan. I can't believe what happened twenty five years later.
(22:07):
We've got a guy who's the mayor of New York
who literally religiously believes the same as the theocracy in Iran.
He is that kind of Muslim, is Zoram Amdani. Many
people don't know that, but he is absolutely on board
with them. He somehows running the city. We set on
nine to twelve. We will never forget we set on
nine to twelve. We will make sure that we come
back stronger and better than ever. And now we see
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what's going on in New York. It's a mess, and
it's being run by a guy who doesn't like us.
I bring that up because after October seventh, one would
think that everybody would say, we love the Jews, we
love Israel. You know, I'm a Christian guy. My grandfather
taught me growing up that that is the promised land
to those people who were chosen to go there. And
that's why in pro Israel. I don't need to be
pro everything Benjamin Netanyaho does. But I'm certainly pro that place,
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that little slipper of land belongs to the Jews. That
shouldn't be controversial after October seventh, somehow, just like we
started feeling like Muslims were the victim after nine to eleven,
which is crazy to me, we're now looking at the
Jews like the bad guys after October seventh, Shila, how
does that happen? And I know that you're not a
brain surgeon and you're not a you know, you're not
somebody who's a psychiatrist, but well, there you go. Maybe
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he can help you with this what part of our
brain tells us, Let's make the bad guys the good guys.
Let's make the good guys the bad guys. And somehow
that works for half of the population.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Well it's propaganda, you know. And those of us who
grew up in Iran understand propaganda coming you know, growing
up in America, you trust the news, You trust what
your professors tell you in college. I have a friend
who escaped North Korea and she attended Columbia University, and
she said, I can't believe the professors at Columbia are
teaching me the same things my professors in North Korea
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were teaching me. So this all DEI oppressed versus a presser.
And by the way, Joe, I went, I was at
Albert Einstein, you know, I was watching live not too
far away in the Bronx the second Tower get hit.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Wow, lost friends.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I went to Columbia University, so you know, I knew
a lot of people that worked in that building and
really really affected me, and I certainly will never forget.
But it brings me to a sermon I actually gave
at one of our Jewish holidays and temple where you know,
I don't know if you know, but the Passover story.
Every year, whenever it's Passover, we have to tell the
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story to the young people. We actually make the young
people tell the story every year, Joe.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
We tell the story over and over again.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And I never really understood, like why do we have
to tell the story every year? This is so Banel
and I realized when Zora Mamdani got elected, this is
why we tell the story every year, so that we
never forget. And if we you know, don't tell the story, Joe,
If you don't tell the story every year to every
young person in that city. If we don't tell the
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story of America, if we don't tell the story of
nine to eleven every year to every young person, we
know we've created a vacuum for somebody else to fill
it with another narrative and another story. And that's exactly
what happened in New York.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, it's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I'm not Jewish, but the passover stories, the oil lasting
way longer than it should have right now, that's Hanka.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
The Passover stories won't be escaped from.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Barry, exactly right. Yeah, I grew from New York. I
grew up in South Florida. My best friends were Jewish.
I should have known that. I think I got them
confused that said, we're not telling the nine to eleven story.
You're right, I think. Two years later the network newscast
were saying, we're not going to show the buildings coming
down anymore. It's too horrific. Shut up. Show the buildings
coming down, Show the people jumping to their death hoping
they could survive. Show exactly how we were traumatized that day,
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attacked that day, Sheila, we've got a guy who's running
New York City. And don't get me wrong, I've got
cousins that for some reason are Muslim. I love them.
I've got friends that are Muslim that are very peaceful.
This isn't about me going after anybody who believes this
differently than you and I do. But you've got a
mayor who went to the podium two or three weeks
ago and said, like the prophet Muhammad taught us. I
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was like what then he said, like in shallah, I'm like,
what are you doing? So looking at it? And there
is not just a just some regular Muslim guy from Uganda.
This is I'm going to start using the words to
get you used to it. I'm going to start acting
this way to get you used to it. I'm going
to start saying these things and even with my hands
to get you used to it. I mean, that's really
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when you're talking about in doctrination is not just what
people say. It's seeing what they do and normalizing it.
Is it not?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yes, that and also you know the leftists have a
real anti Semitism problem, and they have a love for
Islam and they view it as the religion of peace,
which you know, how did they take over fifty two
countries by asking nicely like those of us are not peacefully.
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And you know, I've read the Quran multiple times. I
actually was very close to a minor in Islam. At
Columbia University. I took so many Islam classes because I
wanted to know why my family had to escape Iran.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I've read that book. It's not peaceful.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Okay, so it's it's it's again, yes, it's normalizing. But
the left like that's so darling, like, oh, multiculturalism, this
is so like if we allow this and we accept it,
we're so accepting, we're moral superior to other people. And again,
this is exactly what happened in Iran. These revolutions and
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takeovers of different countries don't happen today with the sword.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They happen in.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Flowery words like equity, like inclusion, like diversity, and then
before you know it, there's people doing mass prayers in
Times Square or in front of little girls Jewish schools
grown when you know, prostrating themselves as an act of dominance,
as an act of power. And we sow in Iran,
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we sow it in Elebanon, we're seeing it in Europe,
and we're ten years behind Europe unless we unless we
do something.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And hopefully we'll do something. We still have a very
strong side that's saying no, no, we believe in Western culture.
We believe in America. First, let me finish with this.
How is it that people have been convinced? And I'll
go through the list, Candes Sowings. You've got people like
Tucker Carlson. There are people very loud voices, this Nick
Fuentes guy, who I think is just a nutshub. But
these people have audiences and people are listening to them
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when they convince them that people from a small strip
of land in the middle of the Middle East somehow
control the world. How is it that they've made the
Jews in Israel specifically, and I guess by extension the diaspora,
or how are you saying, how is it that they've
made them be evil on earth that controls every thought
that we have, Everything that happens, everything's a false flag,
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everything's caused by the Jews. The Jews killed Charlie Kirk, Sheila.
How does anybody believe that I'm just a common sense, normal,
not nuts logical guy and I would never fall for
that crap. If you don't show me some evidence. How
is it that so many millions and I mean it's
tons of millions of people believe this crap.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Well, I think it's propaganda. I think it's blood libel,
meaning you know, the Jews are what fifteen million people
in the whole world, right, so there's there were.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
A huge minority.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
We're a very successful minority, and it's basically due to
the way that we're raised. You know, just the act
of having a bar or bought mitzvah, having to study
a different language for years in order to stand in
front of your community hundreds of people and give a
speech at the age of thirteen. You know, it really
trains you for life. And so you know, family Shabbat
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every Friday. It's basically like having Thanksgiving dinner every single
week with your family, where you discuss and you you know,
you you argue. There's a lot of things culturally that
anyone can repeat, anyone can bring into their their their
families and their and their schedule. It's not a secret.
It's out there for everyone to borrow or use. And
so these things sort of lead us to be successful.
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But we're minority and therefore easy to pick on. And
so anybody who has any problem in their life. Rather
than looking inward and saying, how can I improve my life?
What did I do wrong? What can I correct? How
can I make it better? They'd rather say, oh, it's
somebody else's fault.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Is it envy? Because it must be. But listen, you're
unbelievably successful. If I wanted to be a plastic surgeon,
I would want to learn from you. I wouldn't want
to hate you because you did it. I'm very successful
thirty seven years in this business. If somebody learns how
to they want to learn to talk into a microphone
and how to pronounce diaspora, they should probably come to
me and say, how'd you do that? They shouldn't say
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I hate that he's successful. I hate that he has
a car that I don't have. I hate that he
has a house, that she has a house. Whatever. How
do we convince people to stop hating those who are successful?
Because what you just said, I have never in my
life heard anybody else say you're right, you're raised to
be successful. She'll is nothing wrong with that? Is everything
right with that? Why can't we learn from that?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Jo? But right now, think about it. Does anybody say oh,
that person's so successful. No, they're taught to say that
person's privileged.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
So I came to this country with nothing on the
back of a pickup truck, zero money, zero connections. Everything
I've earned I earned myself. You know, in the past,
you would have said, oh, my god, you're female, you're
an immig you didn't even speak English. You came here
with nothing, and look at where you've become. That's the
American dream. But no, now it's oh, you're showing your privilege.
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I mean, can you believe so. Yes, you're looking to
get culturally back to a point where we look at
successful people and we say, how do I do that?
Rather than oh, that person is at that ferens privileged,
or that person's rich because they stole the money from
somebody else, rather than oh, they created jobs, they created wealth,
they created a service that other people wanted.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
So that's that.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
But I also want to get back to your whole
canvae Owens, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly kind of situation. You know,
I used to think Katar was paying them, or that
they were at least making clicks, because when you shit
on Jews, you know, you get a lot of clicks.
And now they're not getting paid by Fox, they're not
hired by someone.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
They're on their own. So the more clicks that they
can get, the more money they make.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Right. But after the whole the Southern Poverty Law Center
situation where we saw that they were actually paying the KKK,
and now we saw that one of them was actually
dating a clan member and they were living together and
finaled one point two million dollars between the two of them.
So now that I saw that, I was like, oh
my god, I think the left is paying them. I
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think the Democrats are paying somehow. We'll figure it out soon, Joe.
But after that, I was like, oh my god, it's
not Catar, it's the left because if they say crazy things,
the left can say, look at how crazy the right
wing lunatics are vote for us.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
So there's some sort of incentive.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Structure happening, whether it's with people who hate America or
people who want you to vote a certain way. But
none of this is real. You know, you look at
chinks Twitter. Every post says is relanant, every post says
you and it Why are you so obsessed with fifteen
million people on this old planet? Why Because it gets engagement,
it gets flicks, and he makes money.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Listen, you said something in this interview that I hadn't
heard before, and it's about the upbringing of the Jewish
chef family. And I think that was a big, big
time thing. That's a wake up call for people watching.
I need to know before we go. Did you win
the fourth grade race for the class presidency? Come on,
free ice cream didn't get you in? Come on?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Will inherit the earth Right? I got a delicious gratification
on your success.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Well, listen, thank you so much for making time, Thanks
for your friendship, Thanks for your loud voice for freedom,
for liberty, and for the people of not only in
the United States of America, but of course of Iran
as well. It's doctor SCHILINZERI and follow her everywhere. I
appreciate the time. Doc. Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Thanks, Joe, good to see you.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's it for this one. We'll drop another one very soon.
Make sure you subscribe.
I mentioned this from the very beginning when the President
said we're going to Iran. I wasn't very happy about it.
I didn't really want us to. But if we're going to,
let's do the deed. Let's just get it done. If
you're going to go in, make sure that you go
in and the bad guys that have been running that
joint for forty seven years shouldn't be there anymore. He
literally said on Night one, the Iranian people have a
chance to get their country back for the first time
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in almost fifty years, and it might be the only
chance they get with this new deal. It doesn't appear
as though that's happening right now, and that doesn't make
me necessarily very happy. It doesn't make this young lady
very happy either, Doctor Mishila and Nazarian of course, Iranian
American plastic surgeon. You's here on Fox News. You's here
all over the place, and a friend of ours, Sheila,
good to see again.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
How are you great to see? Joe. I'm equally as
a peeved as you are.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Well. You and I both heard what he said the
first night, and you and I believed him, and I
don't think the Iranian people have gotten a chance to
get their country back. Did I miss something?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well, I think what he did when he said, you know,
help is coming is I think he sent arms to
the Kurds who end up up keeping it and not
giving it to the people.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So uh.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
He mentioned that, you know later on actually recently, and
he said, you know, I did send weapons, and you know,
I think the Kurds kept them. So no, I think
I think he wanted regime change. I think he's backtracking
on that a little bit to call this, you know,
a win.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But I don't think it's over.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You know. I think this is kind of like a
little bit of a pause. I think some of the
things he's saying make no sense, which just makes me
think that this is all like a smoke screen. Yeah,
Like he literally came on Joe, did you hear that?
When he came on like yesterday I think it was,
and he was like, yeah, I'm gonna have Isis go
deal with Hezbolah. Like it's just like you know what
I mean, it just makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm like, yeah he did.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
He went on TV and he's like, yeah, Israel's doing
too much. Let's have Syria deal with Hezbolah. I'm like, that.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Agreed, they agree with each other. Wait right, So.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm like, why don't we have the houthies go deal
with Hamas Like it just makes no sense a lot
of the stuff that's happening, and it just I don't
think he's, you know, all of a sudden become a
whole new person. I think there's a lot that is
being said to either raise oil prices, calm the markets,
or you know, make the markets hit record highs, bring
down inflation, get us to win mid term elections, and
(02:20):
open up the straight.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
First step is what open up the straight and demind
the straight. After that, we're going to go into sixty
days of negotiation. Like fine, we'll negotiate for sixty more days,
whatever it takes. As long as oil is flowing, you know,
oil prices are coming down, inflation's coming down, stock market
keeps hitting record highs. So I don't think what he's
saying right now we should take it at face value.
(02:43):
I think there's a lot of other things happening. But yeah,
step one, open the straight, check check, and we'll take
it from there.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It is doctor Chilnazeri and go follow her everywhere. We
follow each other on social media. She's amazing here on
Fox News, the whole thing, and she's told me that
she's got to do something with my eye lids. I mean,
we've talked about this. Having said all of that, I
think you nailed it when you you mentioned that he
armed the Kurds, and I think somebody got in his
ear and said this is the way to do it.
The Kurds will take the arms, they'll go down, they'll
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arm the people. Ninety million Iranians will then take on
the two million who are sympathizers, are loyalists to the IRGC,
and they'll take them out. The Curds never brought the
arms down there, so that was a bad move in
that you believe the Kurds. And I don't think the
Kurds are going to be honest with us anyway because
of the way we left them in Iraq back in
the day, that we didn't take care of the Curds. Then,
I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's necessarily that, Joe.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I think it's because the Kurds, you know, they're they're
everywhere there's there are in a lot of different territories,
you know, kind of on the borders of Iran in
the mountainous areas and kind of more isolated areas. They're
not all homogeneous, okay, there's different sets.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I thought they were.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
No, they're not all homogeneous, okay. And I think that there.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They live in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
And if there's no guarantee that there's going to be
regime change, if if they come and you know, side
with Israel and America against the Iranian regime, and the
Iranian regime is going to stay in place, that's a
huge risk for the Kurds. So I don't think that
they would not want to see regime change. I don't
think they did things. I think they were calculating. You know,
we think the Americans might be underestimating the Iranians. Here
(04:19):
in the Iranian regime. We can't guarantee that they're going
to be gone, and we are taking a massive risk
of annihilation should they stay in place.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So right, and that's yeah, that's sort of the comparison
to making with Iraq Georgia. Herbert Walker Bush made promises
to the Kurds, although they might not be the same Kurds.
I hear you, and I'll learn more about that and
for next time. But he made them promises, he said
that he was going to keep them safe, and then
they all died. I mean, Saddam Hussein killed them all.
I mean that's just after the Persian Gulf War, not
after the Iraq War, but after the Persian Gulf War.
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They helped us big time, and that helped us get
Iraq out of Kuwait, and then they just all died.
So I don't I see why they'd be trepidacious. Having
said that, why does the h GC or the theocracy
allowed them to even exist. They're not following the same
exact rules as the theocracy does. Why are they allowing
them to exist? I want them too, I don't have
(05:09):
to die. But how are their Kurds in Iran and
getting away with it?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Well? I think again, they're in the periphery. They're not
like living, you know, in huge amounts in the cities, right,
They're in the mountains. They're in the periphery. They're in
the border with Iraq. So in order for the Iranian
regime to make this a priority, they would literally have
to tie up military personnel, arms, everything to go fight
the Kurds in the mountains.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Like, what do they care? They're in the mountains, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, well that makes sense. It's doctor shil and Azarian
always appreciate you coming on. So let's break down what
we do do. Because I was really bothered a couple
of weeks ago. I bet you probably were too that
Akmadinajad was being talked about as an interim guy. I'm like, really,
the guy who said the blood of the Jews should
flow in the streets, that death to America, chance were
(05:58):
alive and well while he was in office. I know
he doesn't get along with the Iatolas right now, but
so what was Akmadinajab the guy that you, as an
Iranian thought would be the right guy to put in place,
because I thought Pavlabi should be the guy at least
for six months. Then you have free and fair elections
after that. What do you make of that alleged coalition
that was going on between us, the Israelis and akmadiina Jad.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So Joe, I think it's a little uh, I don't
know a little bit of utopia to think that they're
going to get to free and fair elections in six months.
I think it's going to be a windy road. This
is a regime that is very smart. Think of the
Iranian people in America and how smart they are and
(06:40):
how successful that become. Take that same brain and apply
a different moral code to it, and you.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Have the regime.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So to underestimate the regime and think that they've been
in power for forty seven years and we're going to
have free and fair elections in six months is a
little unrealistic. I think it's going to be a windy road,
and I think we're going to have to tolerate certain
people that might be able to throw some weight around
and slowly take steps towards that. And we've seen it before.
(07:09):
You know. Trump is always like, oh, I have, you know,
great relationship with Putin.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You know, I have a great relationship. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, And it freaks the left out every time he
says it. But I get I get what you're laying down.
If you need to use aquadinajod for a minute, I
get it. In sort of a transitory thing, it's sort
of the same thing as this person who's running Venezuela
right now, who is the vice president of Maduro. I mean,
but she's you know, in line, this Yelz Rodriguez, whatever
her name is. But she's in line and doing what
Trump wants. So Aquadinajad could have been somebody that would
(07:39):
be more trusted, certainly than an Ayatola system.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, I'm not saying he could have been trusted like,
I don't think I trust any of these people like
at all.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It would have been easier to control, though than the
theocracy he I mean, and that.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Might be his use, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So you know, we can't apply our democracy, we can't
apply like even even democracy, and Iranjo is not going
to look like democracy here.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I always said it from the beginning. It's going to
be a mixture.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Of El Salvador with you know, millions of people in
jail with their headstains.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Did you see those videos of like the El Salvadorian
gang members.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yes, yeah, so it has to be a mixture of
that and democracy, which is what it was with the
first Shaw. You know, that was one of the big
criticisms with the first Shaw was, oh, he jails all
the communists and put them into a solitary confinement. You know,
teachers aren't allowed to wear head jobs in the classrooms.
It's so discriminatory against you know, observant Muslims. But he
(08:35):
was keeping his thumb on the opposition, and he saw
what happens in that neighborhood when you let communism and
Islamism run wild.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So it's gonna be it's not the same.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
We can't apply the same type of government situation that
we enjoy here in America to that neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's a doctor Schill and Isarien. Let me ask a
little bit more about the Shaw system before it was
taken by the revolution whatever we're calling it. That Jimmy
Carter actually let it happen. But let's talk about the
Shaw system. I've seen videos from the nineteen seventies or
film I guess from the nineteen seventies, women in bikinis,
people enjoying the beach, people enjoying, you know, their life
in a much more free fashion. You wouldn't be beaten
(09:13):
to death if you didn't have your he job on right.
So how did they go from how did they go
from that to this? I mean, I would guess there
were still a lot of people who followed Islam in
Iran back in the day, or were there none because
it is an Islamic country now because the government forces
you to be I get it. Most people are actually
looking at Christianity. A lot of people are. There are
(09:34):
Jews living there that don't dare talk about it, and
then there are people who don't believe in anything. But
back then, wasn't it still basically a Muslim country? How
did the Shaw allow for all of that freedom knowing
what a theocracy that follows Islam very fundamentally does.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Now well, I mean it's very similar to other countries,
Like look at how Turkey used to be very similar.
Look at you know, parts of Dubai. If you go
to a beach club in Dubai, it's so fun. I
went there for the first time a couple of years ago,
and I looked on the internet said you have to
cover yourself and like all this stuff. I get there,
I met the Four Seasons Jumaira. Everyone's naked, so I
(10:12):
was like, I've hacked.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Shopping.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But yeah, it was very European, like you know, and
so was you know, Lebanon was you know, Christian and
Muslim and it's very similar. And it's a it's a
cautionary tale for America because you know, they installed the
Ayatola thinking that it's going to be an Islamic kind
of belt to prevent communism from coming south from Russia.
(10:38):
And you know they installed the Ayahtola. They didn't like
the shop because he didn't want to give cheap gas
for many reasons. And yes, Carter is like the sea
word for all Iranians. Our left eye starts to twitch
when we hear that name. And and so yeah, you know,
it quickly went to an Islamic country.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Now we see the same things here, right, They're.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Like, uh, you know, I saw a teacher was just
kicked out of a school system because she allowed Kuran
to be in her classroom, but not the Bible.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I mean, we're seeing it, right.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So this sort of like leftist Marxist, communists, socialist alliance
with these Islamists which have nothing to do with one another,
and fundamentally, would you know, kill each other, which we
saw happen in Iron when the Muslims came into power,
they kill all the leftists that helped them get into power.
But you know, the one thing they have in common
(11:33):
is they want to see the downfall of America and
the downfall of the West they view as colonizers and
pure evil.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And so they joined forces.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And forget the fact that you know, Muslims will throw
you know, LGBTQ person off of a roof, right, so quick.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Queers for Palestine is the is the most ridiculous sign
I've ever seen. And a lot of people fly that
it's doctor Schill and his area. So let me ask
you this, And historically speaking, I think you probably know
more about that place than I'll ever understand. I know
what happened in Venezuela. Chavez lied and said, we're going
to take the riches from the evil rich people and
gonna spread the wealth and everybody's gonna enjoy it. You're
gonna own all the stuff. And then he ended up
(12:11):
keeping all the stuff and he made sure the government
controlled everything as he ate Prime Rib. You're eating your
dog in the street. What did the people the theocracy
coming in? What did the revolution tell the people of Iran?
How this would be better for the person? People that
have a they have a three thousand year history, Shila,
How exactly do you it's all going to be all
for one, one for all.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You're gonna get the riches, yep, exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Why is the Shaw living in a castle while there's
homeless people on the streets. There's no equity exact same,
you know, promises of you'd be more free, you know,
there will be more equality as far as wealth is concerned,
there'll be more opportunity, say same exact promises, take zoron
Mamdani's campaign and rinse and repeat.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Well, then why exactly do the people of New York
fall for that garbage?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Then?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You and I were calling it out as it was happening.
He was doing Maduro's playbook, he was doing the Iyatolas playbook,
and they all say, hey, affordability, yay, affordability, And there's
no affordability now. And here's a guy that that's out
there complaining about the peak, the peak, the guy bringing
in tons of jobs to New York City because he
lives in a penthouse. So I mean, why do we
keep falling for the oki though? Can't we wake people up?
(13:19):
I want to shake them about the shoulder. You know.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know, Joe, when I was running for student body
president in the fourth grade, what I did is I
promised free ice cream Fridays.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I did not. I did not have your run for
a student class president in fourth grade on my card today.
But this is great. So you make the promises when
you run and then you do what you want to.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Do once you get it exactly and free is a
very I don't know, it's very, very attractive to the
people who.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You know, maybe feel little disenfranchised.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Maybe they majored in gender studies and can't find a
job right now. They think it's unfair there. You know,
their parents did college and now own home. Well, I
did college too, and now I'm just in debt. No
one wants to hire me, and I'm living with my
parents still. So I think there's a lot of disenfranchised
young people and the big block of people.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
In Iran as well as here.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
This all started on college campus is exactly the same.
I remember when the flash banks were going off at UCLA.
You know, there's what we call it Tarandulus here Westwood
is literal Iran, and all the elders were like, this
sounds exactly like pre revolutionary at Iran. On the college
campus is exact same.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
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how you got out as we're watching this unfold. I
know that you still support the president. I certainly do
as well, but we want some answers. We're not seeing
the memorandum of understanding. We don't really know what's out there.
(14:50):
Some people overseas are releasing something they're calling it. We're
not sure if that's really it. Who knows? What do
you want to see happen? We know that theocracy is
in place today, but the buzzing that I'm getting, the
conserv bit of circles in my ear, and even some
emails and direct messages I'm getting from powerful people, They're going,
just take a breath. He's working on it. Do you
trust that?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I do, and I'll tell you it's not. It's not
without a single day of freak out on my end.
I did have clinical depression about three days ago, and
the next day I called similar friends in d C.
And they're like, just let it play out, right, take
a breath.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Everything's gonna be okay. And so you know, I.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Mean, we can't name them, but I mean these are
people that people watching listening would know. And I'm going, really,
because remember he said that theocracy would be gone or
they'd get a chance to get their country back. Take
a breath, no more shooting for a minute, the go ahead.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I will say this too.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You know, I love General Jack Keene on Fox, and
he was very angry even up to yesterday.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
But you know, I've been going on Newsmax.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Mostly in the last few days, and they always put
me on with a general, like a retired general or
you know, somebody that was in strategic planning military action.
They are all so optimistic Joe that Yeah, they're like
regime changes coming and it's coming soon.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And I'm like, okay, as an American of Iranian descent
and somebody from Iran, if you could press the button,
I know you'd make the theocracy go away. That's not
an option. What would you like to see happen in
the next weeks, in the next months. What would be
a positive outcome here? Because for me and I'm Italian,
I'm matter Iranian, I don't want the theocracy in place anymore.
I think now it's the time. What do you want
(16:29):
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Speaker 2 (17:36):
My name is George Washington.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You know my husband has a friend who does some
business in Iran, A good guy and he basically said
what he foresees in Iran is similar to Dubai as
the most reasonable step.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
So you're gonna have the same regime in place.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
But they've realized that, you know, ninety percent of the
country is going to overthrow them if they don't loosen
up the grip a little bit. And we already see
this in Tehran a little bit, that the women are
walking around without her jobs.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
They're mostly long. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
There you can watch wikipad Pada means walking by foot
and there's a page on YouTube called wiki like Wikipedia,
but it's wikipiadh and somebody is just like a five
K camera walking through the malls, walking through Tehran, walking
through different areas. It's really funny. So a lot of
women aren't wearing head jobs anymore. I think the most
most of them. You could still definitely get bothered. Don't
(18:39):
get me wrong. It's still, you know, kind of an
act of rebellion. But I'm what he predicts, my husband's
friend is that it's going to become like Dubai. And
in other words, they're gonna have to loosen the grip
on women. They're gonna have to give in a little
bit on this iron fist of theocracy if they want
to survive in any way, shape or form. So I
(19:00):
think that the next most reasonable step is a similar
situation to Dubai or you know how Lebanon used to
be with you know, better fashion, a little bit more
skin showing, hair showing. If this regime wants to survive.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
At all, it is a doctor Sheila and Azerian go
and follow her everywhere. She's an amazing follow I'm a
contributor on news Max, so I'm glad you're doing more
Newsmax lately. I think that's awesome. And to put you
next to a general I think is actually very good
because you're extremely smart, and then they're very strategic. I
think that's a very smart thing for them to do.
Can you explain the Mek. I've got a guide that
I put on my show from the Mek and I
(19:35):
didn't know much about it, and he went on and
on and on about how they were the anti revolutionaries
and they were the people going to save Iran. And
then when I did a little study afterwards, it turns
out it's not a very good group. I mean, this
is a group of people that would that would like
to make it completely, you know, whacked out country if
they were to get controlled. So if the theocracy were
pushed out, it would be a fight between good and evil,
and evil would look like the MEK. Do I have
(19:57):
it right now?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
So they member how I told you, Joe, how there
was the Marxist Communists on the college campuses that were
joining hands with the Islamists. The Marxist Communist Islamists are
the MEK. So they were the ones that when the
Iatola came into power, he started killing them. So the
majority of them were killed or exiled. And they do
(20:20):
tons of fundraising in Europe and in America. They have
tons of money, and they also have a lot of
our politicians here in America and in Europe on their payroll,
you know, under the pretenses of you're a speaker for us,
So they're paying a lot of our politicians to go
speak at their conferences. So then I wrong themselves. No
one wants them, k Like the MK and the Islamists
(20:42):
were the ones who overthrew the SHAW. It's like having
Antifa take over your country. So literally no one wants
the Mek period, end of story. And whenever we see them,
you know, kind of sneak their way onto you know,
any of the news channels, we reach out to whoever
we know.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
We're like no, no, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, they made it on my show for sure. But
then I learned more about it, and I've been very
vocal about it ever since. So in other words, they
the propaganda they're putting out that they're the freedom and
liberty people, that's just a lie. It's not true.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Correct, yeah, correct, they're they're the Islamists Marxit.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You know they're doing that right, yes.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And actually, just to give you an idea, they were
on a terrorist list of America until like I think
it was two thousand and nine, were on the actual
terrorist list, and when Iraq attacked Iran, they sided with
Saddam Hussein. So these are not yeah, these are not
and nobody wants these people in power, and you know,
they're not the answer. They're actually the part of the
(21:40):
problem that led us to this place forty seven years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Doctor Shila Nazarian. I appreciate the time and the access.
I want to go here before we end today, and
thank you so much for making time and how busy
you are. And again we'll talk about the eyelids at
some point after nine to eleven. The city where I'm from,
Metro New York. Originally we went there, probably nineteen ninety eight.
Just unbelievable majesty of these buildings, this beautiful place in
Lower Manhattan. I can't believe what happened twenty five years later.
(22:07):
We've got a guy who's the mayor of New York
who literally religiously believes the same as the theocracy in Iran.
He is that kind of Muslim, is Zoram Amdani. Many
people don't know that, but he is absolutely on board
with them. He somehows running the city. We set on
nine to twelve. We will never forget we set on
nine to twelve. We will make sure that we come
back stronger and better than ever. And now we see
(22:28):
what's going on in New York. It's a mess, and
it's being run by a guy who doesn't like us.
I bring that up because after October seventh, one would
think that everybody would say, we love the Jews, we
love Israel. You know, I'm a Christian guy. My grandfather
taught me growing up that that is the promised land
to those people who were chosen to go there. And
that's why in pro Israel. I don't need to be
pro everything Benjamin Netanyaho does. But I'm certainly pro that place,
(22:51):
that little slipper of land belongs to the Jews. That
shouldn't be controversial after October seventh, somehow, just like we
started feeling like Muslims were the victim after nine to eleven,
which is crazy to me, we're now looking at the
Jews like the bad guys after October seventh, Shila, how
does that happen? And I know that you're not a
brain surgeon and you're not a you know, you're not
somebody who's a psychiatrist, but well, there you go. Maybe
(23:13):
he can help you with this what part of our
brain tells us, Let's make the bad guys the good guys.
Let's make the good guys the bad guys. And somehow
that works for half of the population.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Well it's propaganda, you know. And those of us who
grew up in Iran understand propaganda coming you know, growing
up in America, you trust the news, You trust what
your professors tell you in college. I have a friend
who escaped North Korea and she attended Columbia University, and
she said, I can't believe the professors at Columbia are
teaching me the same things my professors in North Korea
(23:43):
were teaching me. So this all DEI oppressed versus a presser.
And by the way, Joe, I went, I was at
Albert Einstein, you know, I was watching live not too
far away in the Bronx the second Tower get hit.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Wow, lost friends.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I went to Columbia University, so you know, I knew
a lot of people that worked in that building and
really really affected me, and I certainly will never forget.
But it brings me to a sermon I actually gave
at one of our Jewish holidays and temple where you know,
I don't know if you know, but the Passover story.
Every year, whenever it's Passover, we have to tell the
(24:19):
story to the young people. We actually make the young
people tell the story every year, Joe.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
We tell the story over and over again.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And I never really understood, like why do we have
to tell the story every year? This is so Banel
and I realized when Zora Mamdani got elected, this is
why we tell the story every year, so that we
never forget. And if we you know, don't tell the story, Joe,
If you don't tell the story every year to every
young person in that city. If we don't tell the
(24:50):
story of America, if we don't tell the story of
nine to eleven every year to every young person, we
know we've created a vacuum for somebody else to fill
it with another narrative and another story. And that's exactly
what happened in New York.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, it's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I'm not Jewish, but the passover stories, the oil lasting
way longer than it should have right now, that's Hanka.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
The Passover stories won't be escaped from.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Barry, exactly right. Yeah, I grew from New York. I
grew up in South Florida. My best friends were Jewish.
I should have known that. I think I got them
confused that said, we're not telling the nine to eleven story.
You're right, I think. Two years later the network newscast
were saying, we're not going to show the buildings coming
down anymore. It's too horrific. Shut up. Show the buildings
coming down, Show the people jumping to their death hoping
they could survive. Show exactly how we were traumatized that day,
(25:35):
attacked that day, Sheila, we've got a guy who's running
New York City. And don't get me wrong, I've got
cousins that for some reason are Muslim. I love them.
I've got friends that are Muslim that are very peaceful.
This isn't about me going after anybody who believes this
differently than you and I do. But you've got a
mayor who went to the podium two or three weeks
ago and said, like the prophet Muhammad taught us. I
(25:55):
was like what then he said, like in shallah, I'm like,
what are you doing? So looking at it? And there
is not just a just some regular Muslim guy from Uganda.
This is I'm going to start using the words to
get you used to it. I'm going to start acting
this way to get you used to it. I'm going
to start saying these things and even with my hands
to get you used to it. I mean, that's really
(26:15):
when you're talking about in doctrination is not just what
people say. It's seeing what they do and normalizing it.
Is it not?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yes, that and also you know the leftists have a
real anti Semitism problem, and they have a love for
Islam and they view it as the religion of peace,
which you know, how did they take over fifty two
countries by asking nicely like those of us are not peacefully.
(26:43):
And you know, I've read the Quran multiple times. I
actually was very close to a minor in Islam. At
Columbia University. I took so many Islam classes because I
wanted to know why my family had to escape Iran.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I've read that book. It's not peaceful.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Okay, so it's it's it's again, yes, it's normalizing. But
the left like that's so darling, like, oh, multiculturalism, this
is so like if we allow this and we accept it,
we're so accepting, we're moral superior to other people. And again,
this is exactly what happened in Iran. These revolutions and
(27:18):
takeovers of different countries don't happen today with the sword.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They happen in.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Flowery words like equity, like inclusion, like diversity, and then
before you know it, there's people doing mass prayers in
Times Square or in front of little girls Jewish schools
grown when you know, prostrating themselves as an act of dominance,
as an act of power. And we sow in Iran,
(27:47):
we sow it in Elebanon, we're seeing it in Europe,
and we're ten years behind Europe unless we unless we
do something.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And hopefully we'll do something. We still have a very
strong side that's saying no, no, we believe in Western culture.
We believe in America. First, let me finish with this.
How is it that people have been convinced? And I'll
go through the list, Candes Sowings. You've got people like
Tucker Carlson. There are people very loud voices, this Nick
Fuentes guy, who I think is just a nutshub. But
these people have audiences and people are listening to them
(28:14):
when they convince them that people from a small strip
of land in the middle of the Middle East somehow
control the world. How is it that they've made the
Jews in Israel specifically, and I guess by extension the diaspora,
or how are you saying, how is it that they've
made them be evil on earth that controls every thought
that we have, Everything that happens, everything's a false flag,
(28:35):
everything's caused by the Jews. The Jews killed Charlie Kirk, Sheila.
How does anybody believe that I'm just a common sense, normal,
not nuts logical guy and I would never fall for
that crap. If you don't show me some evidence. How
is it that so many millions and I mean it's
tons of millions of people believe this crap.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Well, I think it's propaganda. I think it's blood libel,
meaning you know, the Jews are what fifteen million people
in the whole world, right, so there's there were.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
A huge minority.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
We're a very successful minority, and it's basically due to
the way that we're raised. You know, just the act
of having a bar or bought mitzvah, having to study
a different language for years in order to stand in
front of your community hundreds of people and give a
speech at the age of thirteen. You know, it really
trains you for life. And so you know, family Shabbat
(29:24):
every Friday. It's basically like having Thanksgiving dinner every single
week with your family, where you discuss and you you know,
you you argue. There's a lot of things culturally that
anyone can repeat, anyone can bring into their their their
families and their and their schedule. It's not a secret.
It's out there for everyone to borrow or use. And
so these things sort of lead us to be successful.
(29:45):
But we're minority and therefore easy to pick on. And
so anybody who has any problem in their life. Rather
than looking inward and saying, how can I improve my life?
What did I do wrong? What can I correct? How
can I make it better? They'd rather say, oh, it's
somebody else's fault.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Is it envy? Because it must be. But listen, you're
unbelievably successful. If I wanted to be a plastic surgeon,
I would want to learn from you. I wouldn't want
to hate you because you did it. I'm very successful
thirty seven years in this business. If somebody learns how
to they want to learn to talk into a microphone
and how to pronounce diaspora, they should probably come to
me and say, how'd you do that? They shouldn't say
(30:22):
I hate that he's successful. I hate that he has
a car that I don't have. I hate that he
has a house, that she has a house. Whatever. How
do we convince people to stop hating those who are successful?
Because what you just said, I have never in my
life heard anybody else say you're right, you're raised to
be successful. She'll is nothing wrong with that? Is everything
right with that? Why can't we learn from that?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Jo? But right now, think about it. Does anybody say oh,
that person's so successful. No, they're taught to say that
person's privileged.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
So I came to this country with nothing on the
back of a pickup truck, zero money, zero connections. Everything
I've earned I earned myself. You know, in the past,
you would have said, oh, my god, you're female, you're
an immig you didn't even speak English. You came here
with nothing, and look at where you've become. That's the
American dream. But no, now it's oh, you're showing your privilege.
(31:08):
I mean, can you believe so. Yes, you're looking to
get culturally back to a point where we look at
successful people and we say, how do I do that?
Rather than oh, that person is at that ferens privileged,
or that person's rich because they stole the money from
somebody else, rather than oh, they created jobs, they created wealth,
they created a service that other people wanted.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
So that's that.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
But I also want to get back to your whole
canvae Owens, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly kind of situation. You know,
I used to think Katar was paying them, or that
they were at least making clicks, because when you shit
on Jews, you know, you get a lot of clicks.
And now they're not getting paid by Fox, they're not
hired by someone.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
They're on their own. So the more clicks that they
can get, the more money they make.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Right. But after the whole the Southern Poverty Law Center
situation where we saw that they were actually paying the KKK,
and now we saw that one of them was actually
dating a clan member and they were living together and
finaled one point two million dollars between the two of them.
So now that I saw that, I was like, oh
my god, I think the left is paying them. I
(32:13):
think the Democrats are paying somehow. We'll figure it out soon, Joe.
But after that, I was like, oh my god, it's
not Catar, it's the left because if they say crazy things,
the left can say, look at how crazy the right
wing lunatics are vote for us.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
So there's some sort of incentive.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Structure happening, whether it's with people who hate America or
people who want you to vote a certain way. But
none of this is real. You know, you look at
chinks Twitter. Every post says is relanant, every post says
you and it Why are you so obsessed with fifteen
million people on this old planet? Why Because it gets engagement,
it gets flicks, and he makes money.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Listen, you said something in this interview that I hadn't
heard before, and it's about the upbringing of the Jewish
chef family. And I think that was a big, big
time thing. That's a wake up call for people watching.
I need to know before we go. Did you win
the fourth grade race for the class presidency? Come on,
free ice cream didn't get you in? Come on?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Will inherit the earth Right? I got a delicious gratification
on your success.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Well, listen, thank you so much for making time, Thanks
for your friendship, Thanks for your loud voice for freedom,
for liberty, and for the people of not only in
the United States of America, but of course of Iran
as well. It's doctor SCHILINZERI and follow her everywhere. I
appreciate the time. Doc. Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Thanks, Joe, good to see you.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's it for this one. We'll drop another one very soon.
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