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July 29, 2026 33 mins

In this special collaboration episode, Joe teams up with Australian media powerhouse Erin Molan to dissect one of the biggest political miscalculations in recent memory. New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani tried to play international prosecutor by threatening Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu—only to face a harsh reality check from federal law and international precedent.

Joe and Erin break down the sudden legal and media fallout, unpacking exactly how and why Mamdani’s high-stakes political posturing collapsed. What does this clash reveal about modern political leadership, and why should the rest of the country consider this a massive warning sign? We get into all of it.

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  • The realities of municipal authority vs. federal jurisdiction.

  • How the media narrative shifted the moment the legal facts came out.

  • Why this specific brand of political posturing is a warning for voters everywhere.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You've seen it everywhere. By now. Joron Mamdani, the mayor
of New York, wants to arrest Bibi Netnahu. He says
the Prime Minister of Israel is a criminal and should
be locked up. Well, Aaron Mullen and I get together.
We talk about why those words prove to everybody watching
that Jorn Mumdani is in fact a warning for what
could be to come in Western civilization. Those watching and

(00:20):
listening what you understand. There's about a second delay, so
we're not talking over each other. Ever, if it does
seem that way, it's lost in the translation between the
twenty eight billion miles that we are apart, but ideologically
we're very very close. I got to talk about Jora Mumdani,
who I accidentally call more on every once in a while.
Don't know why, but this guy came here in nineteen
ninety eight, he got citizenship in twenty eighteen. Eight years later,

(00:44):
he is the mayor of the largest city in this country,
and he's taking to the microphone and the camera almost
every day to do things like this. I want to
watch this for a second.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Benjamin Nettnia, who is a war criminal, the architect of
a horrific genocide against the Palestine people. His response for
the killing of more than seventy three thousand people, for
the maiming of tens of thousands of children.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I can't even take them about to throw up, So
let me stop it there. This guy is getting through
to some young people in this country. But I want
to ask you something very specifically about what he just said.
First of all, he's inflating the numbers, even from Hamas.
The numbers are like sixty four thousand. But Hamas is
a lying group of terrorists. You really can't believe them anyway.
So here's a guy who believes in the same Shia

(01:29):
Muslim sect that the theocracy in Iran believes in, who
is going after Netanya who as if he'd like to
arrest him. He can't, obviously, but he's doing that while
ignoring the fifty five thousand Iranians that were killed in
the streets of Tehran who just wanted freedom. Aaron, from
your vantage point, are people buying what he's laying down?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Look, the terrifying thing is Joe, that people are buying it,
And that is what worries me more than anything else.
If people looked at the zoron mamdanis of the world.
And when okay, you are so full of crap, let's
move on. Then I would be satisfied and I would
never speak their name. The issue is people watch them.
People absorb it, particularly young people, and they believe it.

(02:11):
Let me make the following points regarding what he just
said there. Citing the ICC as though it is a
reputable organization, is the first error he made.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
They are not.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
The chief prosecutor who brought this case against the Prime
Minister of Israel has been removed from his position because
he's been accused of sexual assault. He's a scumbag. He
runs cover for terrorists. Now this apparent genocide in Gaza. Sorry,
the population has increased. Israel must be the worst country
in the world at genocide. There has been absolutely suffering

(02:45):
in Gaza. It breaks my heart. And that's not a
throwaway line. You're a parent. I'm a parent. The thought
of any child suffering breaks my heart. I say that
so sincerely. But there is a stage you've got to
get to where you are understand that if you continue
to blame the wrong person, you will never solve the
problem or save a child's life. Hamas in my opinion,

(03:08):
bears responsibility for the death of every single innocent person
in Gaza, every single one.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
And I tell you who is an extension of.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Hamas, who funds them, who runs them, who gives them
their marching orders. That is the Islamic regime of Iran.
It is all linked, people, it is all linked. Hamas
is a proxy of the Islamic regime of Iran, who
literally in a day killed tens of thousands of people.
Forty thousand is a conservative estimate. Has Mamdani ever ever

(03:41):
dedicated more than a second to thinking about them?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
I know his wife hasn't.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
She's too busy liking images from October seven, when over
one thousand people were slaughtered and the hostages were taken.
I'm sorry, but he needs to focus on the things
that actually matter. But of course he won't because he
is a terror loving communist, absolute nut job who has
been given the most incredible opportunities in the country that

(04:07):
took him in, Yet he dedicates every single second that
he is awake to smashing it on a global stage.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well that's one way to show you gratitude, isn't it, Aaron?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Why are they all the same? You've got mom Donnie
who grew up middle upper class, if not upper upper class.
His mother's a film producer worth five million dollars or something.
That's an conservative estimate. You've got Kamala Harris, who grew
up in the middle class family in Canada, pretends like
she's from South Central. You've got Jasmine Crockett went to
a thirty eight thousand dollars a year private school in
Saint Louis. She acts like she's from the streets of Dallas.

(04:41):
Why is it that they're so effective? Do you have
any idea? Because I watched them and I want to
laugh at them because they're so cartoonish. But there are
people lined up with glassed over, glazed over eyes going yes, Mamdannie, yes, Kamala, yes, Jasmine.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
What the f joe? They are frauds.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
But I tell you why so many young people are
lapping this stuff up. Look at what we're teaching them
in preschool, in elementary school, in middle school, at college.
We are indoctrinating them early. So this stuff comes along
and they are so ready to absorb it because it's
all they've been told from the minute they were this high.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
This is the issue.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
We're not teaching kids to think critically so they wouldn't
look at them. I'm Danny and say, now, wait a minute,
something doesn't make sense. Why does he despise our country
when it has afforded him the most incredible opportunities. If
you can from where he came from to come as
an immigrant into a country and become mayor of the
most incredible city in the world. Almost, that's a wonderful thing.

(05:45):
What an incredible country that would allow someone to be
able to do that.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
No, of course not.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
He stands in front of his back to front desk
and he slams America on July fourth.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
But again, why would kids question it? Because where in
doctrinating them from.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
The earliest stage, we're telling them we're racist America, that
white people are colonizers, we are evil, we are disgusting,
we must repent for our sins.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
It's insane, but.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
It I forget the word he is. I don't know
if he used the word hypocrisy or I think he
said contradictions. He said it's a city of contradictions, It's
a nation of contradictions. As his ass is not in
the Third world country anymore, He's in New York City,
grew up in Manhattan. He grew up in a place
of privilege. He grew up with a golden spoon in

(06:33):
his mouth, and the guy walks around it because of
a smile. He led his way to to the New
York people to let the people of New York really
believe that he was going to make it a better city. Aaron.
He is trying to make New York City like Uganda,
just like elon Omar is trying to make Minneapolis like Somalia.
What am I missing is the same thing happening where

(06:54):
you live? Are they doing the same thing. Let's import
the third world and make the first world the third world? Why?

Speaker 3 (07:01):
And isn't that you talk about hypocrisy and contradictions? Why
would you flee a country to go somewhere else to
escape as so many of them do, to then want
to turn it into.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
The exact place that you've left behind. It still exists.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Go your ass back, It's still there exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
And Joe, I was in New York City recently. Let
me tell you, I nearly got arrested. You want to
know why, because I thought you had free busses. I
wanted to get on a bus and not pay you know.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
What, I thought I could get free groceries.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I walked into my local little conveniencer and I walked
out with the pine and milk, and they chase me.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
They chased me. I said that Monty said they were free.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I was going to take my little girl and drop
her off in the childcare and not pay because Mum,
DARNI said it was free. So this is my other
issue that I have with it is that he promised all.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Of these things. Right, what are we over a year
in or getting close to it? Sorry, he hasn't ticked
off one box.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yes, so even the people who believed him, aren't they
looking at it now going Look, he's got a cute smile,
but that doesn't get my milk for free.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
And that doesn't mean I catch a bus for free.
I just he hasn't delivered on one thing yet.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
In Australia, it's look, I mean, we're very different nations,
but we face the same kind of problems and it
might manifest in a different way, but we still have
this woke ideology, this suicidal empathy that means that we
allow people in and not only allow people in who
don't subscribe to the values that we do, and don't

(08:36):
come in and say, gosh, we're grateful. We prop them
up and we actually assist them in trying to carry
out our destruction.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
That's how ridiculous it is.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Not only are we allowing it, but we're saying, how
can we help you, young man, to destroy this country?

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Please? I would never try and stop you.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Because that would be racist, or that would be islamophobic,
or that would be may.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Not be a nice person. It's insanity.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Why did I picture you getting arrested trying to steal
some milk in New York. It's a Aaron Mullins coming
to it from Australia. She's amazing. Go follow her erin
Underscore Mollin over here on YouTube. Go check her out
on x go watch everything that she does. She's amazing.
So let's talk a little bit further about the lies
of the left and how they try to cover themselves.

(09:24):
It's kind of interesting because Mam Donnie said he would
do all those things, and he lied he wasn't gonna
do any of that stuff, but he did freeze the rent.
And because he froze the rent, yes, oh yeah, yeah,
we froze the rent. What people don't realize is although
your rent isn't going to go up, you're broken down,
furnace isn't going to get fixed. Your landlord can't now
afford to maintain the place. And this is on purpose, Mamdannie,

(09:47):
and people like the Democrat Socialists of America, which sounds
an awful lot like the Democrat Socialist Party from the Nazis.
These people would like to own everything. So if you
make it so a landlord can't keep up his or
her building, and then the city says, well, city Hall's
just gonna take it over. Now you live in a
city apartment, and the city controls your heat, and your

(10:10):
and and how much. Say he said put it on
seventy year the other day.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
To Joe when he's telling people what temperature to have
the thermi statoo.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
This is how it starts. And you tell me, you
see this firsthand.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
You speak to people every day in your country. Have
they cottoned onto this, because it's the same with you.
Look through the history of communism everywhere.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
It starts little by little by little by little.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
And then all of a sudden you go, wait a minute,
wait a minute, and it's too late.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, it's a they are awake, But I live in Texas.
I'm from Metro New York originally. Well, if I were
in Metro New York, see here's the weird part. You
didn't grow up in New York. I'm from New York.
New Yorkers are all very tough, very fast. They're in
the rat race. They're very nice people, very passionate, very emotional,
or are very very emotive. I should say not emotional.
But they really do believe in the Red, white, and Blue.

(10:59):
They really do believe even I love New York. They
believe in the Big Apple, they believe in the Yankees
and fill in the blank. I can't believe that they've
rolled over like this. So I'm waiting to see if
some of the election stuff Trump just talked about comes
out to show us that New York really didn't vote
that way. Now he is making enclaves everywhere. By the way,
he left out little Italy, which my Italian blood boiled
a little bit over that. But I mean, here's a guy, well,

(11:21):
little Palestine was mentioned, Little Gaza was in there. I
think little Bangladesh. So here's a guy who's trying to
change the outward look of New York. But I'm not
so sure New Yorkers are buying into you were just there,
I was just there. I'm from there. Do you think
they're really buying in? Are they awake to what the
hell they just did with this guy?

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I hope they are awake, Joe, because it's one of
the most incredible cities in the world. And don't get
me wrong, I am a true patriot. I'm such a
proud Australian. But New York City is unlike anywhere else
in the world, and it would be an absolute travesty.
And the part of it that blows my mind if
and I hope it's not the case, but if not

(12:00):
enough of them are you know, if.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
They're still asleep at the will.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Essentially, this is the city where terrorists flew aeroplanes into
buildings and killed.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Thousands and thousands of people.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
This should be a city where you would be forgiven
if every single person there went.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
You know what, you don't get our benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Sorry, but we have earned the right to be paranoid
and not let anyone in who maybe doesn't even support
this stuff, even though I the jury's out on that,
But who enables it or who doesn't stamp it out
with such a stuch passion and such a not on
this land, not on my watch.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
And Mamani does nothing of the sort.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
When terrorism reads its ugly head, or when Jews are
targeted in New York City, or when the left extremists
run riot, even when they're targeting him, he doesn't do
anywhere near enough that reassures me he has a zero
tolerance for terror or anything that resembles it. And New
York City, of all places in America, would have the

(13:08):
right to say, nah, sorry, not on our watch.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I couldn't agree more. It's only twenty five years ago.
I mean, think about that. That's crazy that you now
have a guy who follows the same sect of Islam
as the theocracy in Iran. When we started the bombing
campaign against Iran, he literally said, I called the White
House and told him how dissatisfied I was. And then
later he had to admit he didn't call anybody. Who's
going to call the White House. He's the mayor of
New York. Shut up, You're not calling the White House.

(13:32):
But that said, the one little thing sometimes does it.
Let me explain. When Barack Obama was an office, he lied,
he said he was from the North side of Chicago.
He was a big White Sox fan, which is a
baseball team here that you probably know. It's not true.
He grew up in Hawaii. He grew up by his
white grandparents. He went to Ivy League schools. He knows
nothing about the North or South side of Chicago. But

(13:54):
the mask came off Aaron when he was sitting in
the announcing booth. And you have a big backgroun in
sport at the announcing booth. You've got the guy who's
doing the play by play, You've got the guy who's
doing the color play commentary. And then Barack Obama, as
the President of the United States, is sitting there and
the guy asked him a very very quiet, very innocuous question.
He said, Hey, what was your favorite team growing up
that Obama said Chicago. The White Sox loved them. And

(14:18):
the guy said one thing like, what is your favorite
football team in Australia. I don't know any of the
football teams. They're just give me the.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Give me Hey day, late eighties, early nineties.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Give me your favorite player.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Laurie Daily, he's a current representative coach. He's in his
fifties or sixties now.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
But agent the reason I say it, They said, who's
your favorite player growing up? He would I? Well, I
that crack, that chunk in the armor told me that
if you asked me the nineteen seventy seven starting lineup
for the New York Yankees, I got it. I'd go
down the list today, tomorrow. I'm fifty nine years old.

(14:57):
Now this guy couldn't name one player.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Interest Yes, Yo Yankees, Yes, love it?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Absolutely? Have you gone to Yankee Stadium next time you
go to New York, go and watch a game. It's unbelievable.
The reason I bring this up is Mom Donnie leaving
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one thing that New Yorkers went, Oh, this guy not
only isn't a New Yorker, he's an idiot. Because if
you had a gun to my head, I'm saying little
Italy in Chinatown, if you asked me about Enclaves in
New York, I'm not saying little Iran. I'm not saying

(16:31):
little Gaza. And the fact that you left it off there,
I'm telling you, Aaron, I love you like crazy. I'm
not making this up. He does it on purpose because
they are not the right persuasion, religiously, because the Vatican's there,
and because our tona skin is olive or or white.
So this guy, he just let the world know I

(16:52):
don't really care about New York. I care about conquering
New York. What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I think you make such powerful points, And I would
say to you this, there's something that they all have
in common.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
They are frauds. They pretend.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Nobody expects anyone in public office or who is running
for public office to be perfect.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Nobody. That's ridiculous. But what they don't want.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Is someone who is pretending and someone who is lying.
The Democrats and this whole breed do it constantly, aoc
putting on an accent a couple of.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Days Alabama or what was that?

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Seriously, and it was horrendous at least, I mean, hey,
as how are like?

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I can do a better.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
One, And I'm an oker ossie, like you know, come
at least practice it. At least you're a fine your
skill set before you take it out there. But they
all do it, and do you know what you cannot
in this day and age where there are cameras everywhere,
everything's recorded. You're doing media daily, social media. You cannot
keep up a front permanently.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
You'll be exposed. Eventually.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
You can't find the same as our line of work, Joe,
I watch enough of yourself. I know exactly who you
are because I watch you, and I know that it
is authentic, it is real. You don't come undone because
it's real.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Same as me.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
I would rarely script something unless it was something legal
or something I wanted to make sure I had word
perfect for another reason. Otherwise, when I sit down to
talk to people.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
I'm talking from here, and I'm talking from here, and
i'm talking.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I'm saying what I believe, not what I've rehearsed, or
not what I think you want.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Me to here.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
And often my audience will, you know, maybe not often,
but they will sometimes disagree with me, but they know
that what I'm saying is real. And I tell you
what you own a hell of a lot more respect
that way. Mum, Dannie, don't got it, sorry, Little Katar.
I'm sure was there Little Russia, no doubt, Little North Korea.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
I'm sure I had five of place.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
But I don't think little North Koreas are there. But
no Little Italy is known globally. You know little Italy.
You know to go no ho or so home, got
a piece of pizza? Go gets it right? Soa way,
I'm not allowed to talk. I'm not allowed to talk
about it. I'm not allowed to talk about it. So
it's Aaron mollin coming to us from Australia. She's amazing.

(19:13):
You can't keep the front up, is exactly right. I
do three hours a day Monday through Friday, no notes,
because I believe it. I believe. I know what I believe,
and I'm reacting to actually things that are going on.
Every show you do. You're looking right at the camera
and you are genuine. This guy during the NBA Finals,
and I'm sure you know that the Knicks won for
the first time since nineteen seventy three, he said, if

(19:34):
Donald Trump goes there, I'll be in a different part
of the stadium. Aaron, they play in an arena. A
stadium is where you play outdoor games. The guy, you
know what I mean. You can't pretend to be a
Knicks fan if you don't know where they play. So
and as dumb as that sounds, and as non important
as it feels, it's really important because he's not a
New Yorker, he's not really an American. He doesn't love

(19:56):
the country, doesn't love the city, and he's only here
as an agent of change. And I've got to add
to this whole thing with Max Blumenthal, Black, Max Blumenthal
goes and you sent me this, thank you. He goes
out with Piers Morgan and he says, the numbers aren't real,
or the numbers were who was killed in Iran? It
wasn't really people fighting for freedom. There were bad guys

(20:16):
or something.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Look, this is essentially what he's saying. And I've got
to say this, Joe, that it is absolutely valid to
question the way in which America has entered this war
against the Islamic regime of Iran. Of course absolutely, I,
by the way, think that this absolutely was a necessity.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
But let's park that to one side.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
It is legitimate as an American to hold your government
to account and to question when your daughters and sons
may be sent to a frontline to battle. Yes, tick
tick tick, we should do it constantly. What is never
ever legitimate? I'm sorry, but this is sickening, is for
an American to try to argue in a way that

(21:03):
is trying to damage America that innocent protesters and they were, sorry,
innocent protesters were slaughtered in their tens of thousands, and
he has gone and he's suddenly they'll become an agent
of this Islamic regime. And he has said that that
did not occur and that they were not innocent protesters.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
I'm sorry, but children on the street.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Without weapons calling for change up our innocent protesters, not
the dickheads excuse my language, that go and harass ice
because they're being paid, these antagonists.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
They're not.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
But those people in Iran bravely standing up against an
Islamic terrorist regime who stole power from them forty seven
years ago, who gave their lives in pursuit of freedom,
the things that everyone in America takes for granted, well,
not all of you, some of you. That is criminal.
That is discussed, and that is unforgivable. He is a traitor,

(22:02):
and I don't say that lightly. He's over there at
the funeral of a terrorist with American blood on his hands,
so much American blood on his hands, not just directly
but through Hezbela through the hoofies, through harmus.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, and that scumbag gave out.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Water to other terrorists there and chanted and cheered and
sobbed and said, these are the good guys.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
America is able. Well, sorry, you are disgusting.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
The reason I bring him up is because ignore what
you know, ignore what you see, believe what I say.
That's how stupid it is. Like Trump came out last Thursday,
as you know, as the world knows, and he said,
China medaled interfered, Venezuela medaled, interfered. Iran was involved. I've
had guys on my show that over the past week.
I was saying Serbia was involved, Italy was involved, all

(22:54):
sorts of hyjinks in our elections, interfering on our elections.
Martha Brennan on CBS, she does some CBS Face your
Face or something every weekend, and she's sitting there and
was asking Marco Ruby or somebody else about what the
president had to say. And she says, yeah, but I
we got a hold of China. China said they didn't
do it. Go on, what what do you think they're
gonna say? I mean, it's like bluemothal saying the IRGC

(23:16):
told me these were all bad guys. They killed in
the streets. So on, it's fifty five thousand, big deal.
So what they were women just burning a picture of
the Ayatol and that's okay. If they died, they were
really starting a revolution, and the IRGC felt threatened. That's
why they were killed. I called China and asked them.
It's like getting the guy robbing the bank and saying, hey,
why'd you rob the bank?

Speaker 3 (23:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (23:33):
And I didn't rob the bank. No, no, no, what was
it mean?

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Oh, Shaggy.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
It's like asking, Shaggy, did you tap the woman next
door when you walk was out?

Speaker 4 (23:43):
It wasn't me.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
By the way, can I tell you side notes? I
ran into Shaggy in a hotel in Brisbane about a
month ago. He was up here doing a concert with Sting.
Kevin Costner was staying in the same hotel and Shaggy
was on the balcony having drinks and I was sitting
at the table next door, and which had for a
little while. He was a very pleasant fellow, and he
tried to convince me that the song it wasn't me

(24:06):
was trying to say the guys do the right thing.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Said, Shaggy, Come on, I'm a couple of winds.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
In but that Joe, talk to me about Talk to
me about that, that speech by the president. And I
know that a lot of the leftist leaning networks didn't
play it at all because you know, of course, let's
say to the president and as he said, certain journalists,
news organizations were paid to put out falsehoods.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
What was your reaction watching that?

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Because I mean the China thing in particular here in Australia,
we have been aware of this, this growing threat of
the Chinese Communist Party for a long time now. We
haven't done anything bloody about it because we're weak and
our governments are completely unprepared. But and then some it's
too late, and then some when they take Taiwan, we
are screwed. We'll be cut off, and we haven't done

(24:57):
anything to ensure our own security in defense.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
But tell me what was your reaction when you.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Heard what Trump had to say, particularly about China.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I was exonerated. And the reason why I say that
is I interviewed Rudy Giuliani in twenty twenty when he
uncovered all of this fraud and all of this stuff
that was going on and I got a strike on
YouTube because we told the truth. I interviewed Mike Lindell,
the MyPillow guy who's running for governor of Minnesota. Now
you might or might not know Mike Lindell, but Mike
Lindell I interviewed him and he had proof. He said,

(25:25):
this show is when China did it on the actual data,
you know, printouts. And I got another strike there. I
was banned from x or was Twitter at the time.
So I feel exonerated. We knew that this happened. What
I found interesting about that speech Erny, and you may
or may not know this, is that Trump focused on China.
The bad guy who did this was Venezuela. What's interesting

(25:48):
about it is that Venezuela made the machines, they made
the software, they made the technology, and it was all
being run by this cartel Della Solis, which is a
three trillion dollar cartel that was being led by Maduro,
who Trump went in and got. So he takes out Iran,
which was meddling in our election. He tells China, you
better sit in your seat and not do anything because
you meddled in our election. And then he takes out

(26:08):
the leadership of Venezuela. There is a method to his
madness here, and now he's releasing all the classified stuff.
And so my reaction is personally, I was vindicated, and nationally,
thank god, we'll finally find out what the hell really
happened in twenty twenty. When you see it from your perch,
what did you see happening there? You knew because you're
much closer to China than we are. But bad guy

(26:28):
is being uncovered.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
It didn't surprise me at all, But it's still it's
still it scares me. And not because China has done that.
That's very obvious. They do that everywhere.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
They are the.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Most involved in that space all over the world, but
obviously America is their number one focus, given Jijiping and
his desire to be top dog. But I think what
terrified me was the reaction to it by so many
people who were so dismissive of it, and the way
that networks in America. Some of them didn't even cover it,
and b it was covered in a way that was

(27:04):
almost a mocking of Trump. And I just thought, you
know what, you cannot prepare a nation for the threat
that it faces if they don't understand it. And this
is the issue I think that's happened with the Islamic
regime in Iran. And this is not necessarily a failing
of the government because they can only do so much.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
You need media buying, and not in a BS way.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
You don't expect media to do you any favors, or
to lie or to put out propaganda, but just to
tell the truth.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
And networks have not done that.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
They have failed in their responsibility to show America why
this matters, why this Islamic regime of Iran is such
a threat. And the Chinese Communist Party, if you read
the National Security Strategy, the National Defense Strategy, the public
ones that came out from America over the past six months,
they both identified China as the greatest threat to the
US and it is. And American people will not be

(27:57):
willing to you look at their top lorance for fuel
prices going up that was low because they didn't understand
why it mattered, right, and people need to understand what
is at stake, why it matters to them, why this
threat has to be faced or tackled, not necessarily military,
in whatever way that it needs to be handled. Otherwise

(28:19):
you don't get buy in from the people, and that's
the issue that the Trump administration has had, particularly with
the Islamic regime of Iran and China will be an
extension of that because all the left wing media is
trying to convince the masses that it's not real.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
It's Trump being just a sore loser because of the you.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Know, whereas this is huge, another country is interfering in
your elections, and CNN and CBS and the likes are
either not covering it or they're saying, oh, it's just
trumping a soul.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
He gave us proof fine that China has two hundred
and thirty or two hundred and forty million registrations for voters.
We don't have that many voters on our roles. The
fact that anybody believed that Joe Biden got eighty one
million votes, which is about what ten or fifteen million
more than Barack Obama ever got, and Obama was just
popular the next coming, so you didn't believe it. We

(29:07):
knew that it was wrong. We had a tiptoe and
jump around and be very careful with what we said
and how we shut it. But now we do know.
The cloak is off, and I want to see people
in shackles. I want to see people in handcuffs. I
want to see people face charges of sedition. Well, if
we don't get that, then why would they stop?

Speaker 4 (29:24):
And that's spot on.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
It's the same with anything, Joe, isn't it If you
don't hold people to account, Yes, not only not only
do they continue, but those around them who are that
way inclined say, well, there's no consequences for these actions.
Let me join in. And that's the issue with this.
You need to hold people to account. And that was
a big election promise, wasn't it from the Trump administration

(29:45):
that not only would they expose this stuff, not only
would they put the proof out there, but heads would roll.
And we need to see more of that so that
people keep the faith as well.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
In that space, I know, I know you've got a
busy day and you've got to go. I want to
finish with this. Those of you who are watching, thank
you for staying this long. We're collaborating together because Aaron
and I are from the same They're cut from the
same cloth. We really do believe that journalists have a responsibility.
You also have to entertain, and I think that Erin's
very entertaining I do my best, but you've got to
bring the truth. I'm a multiple award winning journalist. Aaron

(30:16):
has won all sorts of awards. He's been doing it
for a very long time. We're not on here just
to play games. We're on here to tell you that
you're being lied to. We're going to tell you what
the lies are. We're going to make you laugh a
little bit as we uncover those lies, and I hope
that we can do a lot of this. Everybody's got
to go and follow you right now. Erin underscore a
Molin right here on YouTube. Go and find her on
every piece of social media you can. She's a great
follow on Instagram. Even shows you some personal stuff that

(30:38):
she's doing on there, which is awesome, with her family
and eating dinner and doing whatever else you're doing on
all this travel. But Erin, this is why I wanted
to make sure we did this. We're kindred spirits. We
knew that from day one, and we really do start.
We get up in the morning, we want to kick
some ass, take some names, and just tell the truth
in the face of people who are lying for clicks.
I'll give you the last word.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
I appreciate all of that so much.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
And I want to say predominantly to your audience who
are watching and listening to this right now, they are
so lucky to have you. People like you are a rarity,
and not just in your ability to tell the truth
without fear nor favor. And you do that every single
time you step up or sit up to a microphone.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
You do it in the most entertaining of ways.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
You are such a brilliant broadcaster, and that, by the way,
takes decades to hone.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
They are so blessed.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
And I'll say this as well, I'll give them a
little insight into who you are off camera. The greatest
supporter of someone coming through that I have ever encountered
in I mean, I'm so young still, so it's amazing
that two.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Decades will be in this game, so young.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
But the things that you do to help me that
other people would never do. They not that you wouldn't
see me as a threat. I mean, you know we're
very different people, but you embrace me and you will
send me something and say, hey, this just worked for me.
And I tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, he's not
motivated like some of the knob shiners on XA and
the podcast is in getting maximum clicks and doing whatever

(32:12):
they can.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
To get it.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
He's motivated to have the biggest possible audience because it matters.
The more people that hear the truth, the better off
your nation will be. And that is someone that I respect,
that I love dearly, and that I am honored.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
To come on air with anytime.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
He asks you stole my word. I'm honored to be
your friend, and I'm honored to watch you grow as
you are go and follow eron Eric. Can we do
this like on a regular basis?

Speaker 4 (32:35):
I think this love I would love you.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
This is half an hour gone already.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Goya Burns Row, So it's going to be Eron and Joe,
Joe and Aeron, Molan PAGs PAGs, Mulan. We'll figure that out.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Molepags.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
That sounds like an ailment. What are you doing? Get
be the Molpag show. It is Aaron Moullan. Go in
check her out. She's amazing. She put more content that
I could even dream of doing. Aaron, thanks for making time.
Let's talk again, Sue.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
My friend, Love you legend.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Bye, all right, love you back. That's it for this one.
Another Unshaken, Unafraid with Joe PAGs to drop soon. Make
sure you subscribe to Aaron and to me as well.
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