June 29, 2026 • 32 mins
Kathy Barnette grew up on a pig farm — no running water, no insulation, an outhouse out back — in the very home of her great-great-great grandmother Rhoda, who was a slave. She has the blood of slaves forcing through her veins. And nobody told her she was a victim.
Today she's exposing what the Democrat Party has done to Black America for over 60 years — and the people who helped them do it.
In this raw, unfiltered conversation with Joe Pags, Kathy reveals:
- LBJ's own words — what he said in private about keeping Black voters locked to the Democrat Party for 70 years
- The Black pastors who were paid off to allow abortion clinics into Black neighborhoods — and told young Black women to use them
- Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood's stated mission to "weed out" Black people from society
- How Black America was actually thriving before 1964 — more doctors, more lawyers, more intact families than ever — and what the Great Society destroyed
- Why 80% of Black children in New York City are now growing up without a father in the home
- The feminism trap set for Black women — and why it's backfiring on an entire generation
Kathy Barnette ran for U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania. She didn't just survive the Democrat machine — she's naming it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kathie, what are you thinking? Why would you ever not
take the easy road and just be a Democrat and
hate everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I know, I tell my friends all the time, I
didn't get any benefit from being black, Like I didn't
get any of the privileges, so any of those things.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Right, Well, what is it in our day and age
that we're one hundred and fifty years away from slavery?
Things still aren't perfect, we're still working on it. But
you've got young black people in this country coming up
in places like Chicago and Washington, DC taking over malls
and taking over the Chipotle and you know, doing these
team takeovers. And they're not just takeovers, they're they're rioting,
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They're causing mayhem, they're vandalizing. Is this a lack of
parents problem? Is this a perception? Is their reality problem?
What do you think is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You know what, I would choose all of the above, right,
And it's not. And it's much bigger than just a
black people problem or just woke white people problem.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
There is something that has been lost fundamentally with our country.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
And it was one of the reasons why.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
When I came out and decided to run for office,
I started sharing my own story as a reminder to
the American people of how far our nation has moved right,
Because if anyone had the ability to claim to be
a victim, I think I were qualified for it. I
grew up on a pig farm, grew up in a
home with no insallation, no running water, outhouse, and the
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back weld on the side. I grew up in the
home of my great great great grandmother, Rota, who was
a slave. So I had the blood of slaves coursing
through my veins. And yet when I was growing up
in dire poverty, I don't recall anyone ever looking at
me and saying, Kathy, hang it up, you got three strikes.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You're black, you're a woman, you're poor. It's over, kid.
No one ever said that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Instead, I saw every household in that little community had
a man, had a father in the household. Everyone wore
the mother well always in the home. It was a
community that had the bar of expectation was raised high
for the black kids.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
In that community.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It wasn't a bar of low expectation for us. And
I never grew up thinking I.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Was a victim.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
No one ever told me I was a victim, and
so I went on to create truly an amazing life
off standing on the shoulders of so many who came
before me. Right, I don't have a victim mentality, and
I certainly didn't pass it down to my children. But
what we're watching today, whether we're looking at black kids
acting wild and uncontrolled, or whether we're looking at these
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highly privileged white kids behaving in ways that are or
woke white women who are behaving in ways that are
completely unseemly, there's something deeper that is going on, and
I believe it is a weaponization of the history of
this country. To get a marriage is to really just
it was someone said America cannot be destroyed from without.
(03:06):
It would be if we are destroyed, it would be
from with then, And that is what we're watching and unraveling.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
From with then.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It is Kathy Barnett. Go to Kathy with a k.
Barnett b A R N E T T E dot com.
Go get her book. It's called Nothing to Lose, Everything
to gain being black and conservative in America. I want
voices like yours to be amplified. That's why I'm so
happy to have you back in my show. Voices like yours,
and voices like others that have come from nothing. Ben
Carson came from nothing, a poor kid in Detroit became
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the world renowned neurosurgeon. You are examples Tiger Woods taking
on golf and doing so well as he did for
getting his recent you know, problems that he's had, but
he was somebody that told the black community you can
go play golf. You're telling people you can be a
talk show host, you can be an author, you can
run for office. Ben Carson, you can be a brain surgeon.
His brother is a rocket scientist. For god sis. We
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need more examples like that. But instead, the examples that
we're throwing at at the young black children in this
country are Barack Obama who grew up privileged in Hawaii.
Are Kamala Harris, who grew up privileged in Canada, you
know what I mean. And they're trying to act like
they're from the hood. They're from the streets. I'll never forget.
Barack Obama was in the booth as the White Sox
were playing the baseball game, and the announcers said, what
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is your favorite team growing up? He said, the White Sox.
I'm a White Sox guy. And he said, who is
your favorite player growing up? Just an innocuous question, Kathy.
He couldn't name one player because he's lying. So why
is it that the spot like it shined on people
like that that aren't a good example to Black America
and not on people like you who are.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, because it is a grift. It is a tremendous
amount of power. And that is what the Jesse Jackson's
and Al Sharpton's learned during the sixties. Shelby Steele and
his son Eli Still, they wrote a book that they
coined White Guilt and what they realized in the sixties
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because up until you know LBJ and the Great and
the Great Society and the Civil Rights movement or the
Civil Rights Bill, in the early.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Nineteen sixty three nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Four, black people were actually becoming on parity with white people.
And I mean the number of doctors and lawyers, it
was exponential in the black community, the number of businesses
and intact family. There were more black people getting married
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than white people who were getting married. The number of
children growing up and a two parent household was seventy
percent or higher. In New York City, for example. Today
is the inverse where eighty percent of black children are
growing up in a single parent household. So we were
actually becoming on parody with white people.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And then you had you know.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
LBJ, the Great White Society, Civil Rights Movement, Education Board,
and what they realized, the black grifters like Al Sharpton
and others, they realized this thing called white guilt. You
had white people who felt some kind of way about
how black people, you know, the disparities between black people
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and white people, with Jim Crow and all of that,
and they realize, oh, we can we can grift off
of this, we can take advantage of this, and we
can sell access to these white white people, many of
them into the black community Just pay me nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Then you had on the other side.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Of that coin of white guilt, Shelby Steele and his
son Eli still talk about, is white people who wanted
at that time, white liberals, who white democrats who wanted
to take advantage and get access to the Black community.
So you had this symbiotic relationship of those who were
the spokespeople for a black community selling access to the
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black community and selling a lot of the narratives that
have kept black people on what many of us call
the Democrat plantation for seventy plus years. The good thing
about it is that you have a number of black people.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I've done many shows with black men on the streets
of Philadelphia who are beginning to wake up to this
narrative that they've been living according to for the past
seventy years, that if you're black, you must vote Democrat,
otherwise you're not black.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
They're waking up to it now.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
They're not waking up to the narrative and becoming a
Republicist necessarily. But the opportunity in this disruption is that
for the first time in my lifetime, black people are
questioning this narrative that if you're black, you must vote Democrat.
And I think that is the opportunity for us.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean, Joe Biden literally said that to Charlemage or somebody.
He said, if you don't know who to vote for,
you ain't black. So when you do something like that,
when we go back and unraveling what you just said,
was very very intelligent, but let's deep dive it a
little bit. LBJ was one of the biggest races we've
ever had in the White House period. End of story.
He didn't do that because he cared about black people.
He did that because he wanted to own the black vote.
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And in fact that worked. It worked very well. There
were black economies in black neighborhoods that were better than
a lot of white economies. And like you said, doctors
and lawyers and teachers and those running schools and business owners.
That was flourishing. And what the government did in nineteen
sixty four, by that swife of a pen was say
we're going to give you everything unique because it's unfair
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in our society. Suddenly they told black fathers, don't worry
about being in the house. We'll take care of the kids.
They told black moms and dads, don't worry about working hard.
We'll give you some free food and some free money
and some free education. And once you've got your grips
in a community like that, it's hard to give it up.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, I'll hold my nose and vote for Trump, but
I don't want to lose all of my entitlements that
I'm getting. We've got two or three generations of young
Black Americans that grew up thinking daddy government owes me something,
and that disincentivizes people from succeeding. I mean, that's what
I think you and I are saying the same thing, right.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I am so emotional. I was just listening to you.
I am pissed off.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Good hang up here.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Black people.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I mean I would drive, I take I take the
streets mostly when I drive around Philadelphia, so that I
can learn the different neighborhoods. And you know, every single
time when you just drove into a predominantly black community,
because it's concrete jungle, no green space, it's bug bit
bedbug signs everywhere, trash and mattresses lined up.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Liquor stores on every corner.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You don't see businesses, you don't see you don't see
home ownership in most of these inner city black, predominantly
black communities, And it just.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Really rubs me raw.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And I think again, black men, specifically black women, it's
a different story, but black men. I saw this when
I was running against doctor Oz and others in that
Pennsylvania senatorial race back in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Black men are waking up.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Black men are at the bottom of any list where
something is being delineated as good. If you pick any
list that shows anything positive, Black men specifically are at
the bottom of that list. And you're right, the government
became the black woman's baby daddy.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
He's paying for the rent, he's paying for the food,
paying for.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Internet, paying for car. You basically don't have to work.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You only need to never have a man in the home,
living in the home, and establishing a family. And we
understand the role of the father and the importance of
the father. Martin Luther King Junior said, the greatest weapon
against poverty is a two parent household. Like that's the
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beginning of the destruction of poverty. And that's the very
thing that with the swipe of a pen, as you said,
Lennon B. Johnson and the Democrat Party kind of wrote
that into law.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And we have seen it. And Lendon B.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Johnson is the one who said it that we will
have these n words voting Republicans for the next seventy years.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And he did not lie. We have I think I.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Think you said two hundred years. Actually I think you
said yeah. I mean, he looks like a huge We
still I live in Texas. We have parks named after
this idiot. We've got a lake named after this guy.
I mean, we're still acting like he somehow was the
be all end. He wasn't. He was the person that
told black men, you have no responsibility in society, you
have no responsibility for your family. We got it, and
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then black men his whole his whole purpose was to
disenfranchise black men from being leaders in their community. And
it worked. And it makes me crazy, but I do
think that there's there's a change happening. It's Kathy Barnett.
Go get her book. It's called Nothing to Lose, Everything
to Gain being Black and conservative in America. And I
don't want to make this all about race, because you've
got a lot to say about a lot of other things.
But let me finish with this. Yeah, as as I
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was growing up in a two parent household, my mother,
I think, let me flourish intellectually, let me flourish through
my of words. My father just had to give me
a look, and if I was acting out, I stopped.
I did not want to disappoint dad. And I'm now
the father of five daughters, and I've got three grandchildren.
And you met one of my daughters recently in New York.
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And these people are going up knowing that Dad was
going to be sort of the compass when it came
to responsibility. Mom does everything else, but that's that's my role,
and I love that role. I think any man, black, white,
anything in between would love to have that role if
they know it's there for them. But instead, we've got
a community that thinks I don't have to take responsibility
for what I'm doing here. Let me go act out.
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How do we fix that? How do we make how
do we make young black men understand that taking I
feel great being the leader of my house. I feel
great being somebody that my daughters can turn to for advice.
How do we make young black men understand that's their
role too?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Well?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You know it's not going to happen overnight, right like
what we've been the fruits of Lbjy's labor did not
happen overnight.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It took time.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But let me also say LB Jay could not have
done what he did, and woke white Democrats could not
have done what they did if it wasn't for black pastors, primarily.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Jesse Jackson's right.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, they pay them off, and they continue to pay
many of these black pastors in the black community off because,
unlike any other community, the black pastor have historically held
the role of going out into the culture, getting the
information coming back into the Black community and and and
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breaking it down for of what it is we need
to do, what's right, what's wrong? Uh, it's just the
historical positioning of the of the black pastor and the
black community. And so so, you know, so I don't
want to give LBJ all the credit for destroying the
black family. You also have a big bright spotlight on
black pastors as.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well, who have been.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
A significant gatekeeper who gets to come into the black
community and speak to the black community. But with that said,
you know, this is one of the things that I mean,
I didn't even know I was fighting against feminism when
I was fighting against feminism as a young girl, when
I gave my life to the Lord at nineteen and
began to say, well, that looks stupid with the you know,
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the feminist playbook that is handed down to every little
girl that says, you know, you can go out into
like that. You can go into a night club by yourself.
You can buy a drink, you can walk away from
the drink, you can come back and drink the drink,
and you never have to worry about someone spiking your
drink because you have in my case, black Girl Magic,
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or for your daughter Sam's case, you go girl magic. Right,
you are a woman, Let everybody hear you roar. And
what feminism has done over the years for those who
are played by the feminist playbook, I'm looking at a
lot of thirty eight and forty two year old women
who are looking back and saying, Oh my god, what
have I done with my life? I slept with any
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and everyone. I now have HPV and every other kind
of venarial disease.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I'm not married.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'm looking you know, I've made myself kind of ineligible
for a man to want to marry.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
What have I done with my life?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And I, you know, a lot of my time when
I speak on the radio or in public speaking, I'm
talking about how feminism has betrayed the woman, and how
feminism has alienated men and women, making it very difficult
for men and women, husband and wife to come together
and to communicate and to build a family in the
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right way. Right. So, I'm spending a lot of my
time talking to my seventeen year old daughter what it
means to be a woman, and the ideal situation is
for her to leave the covering of her father and
brother who loves her very much, and walk into the
covering of her husband.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Because there are predators everywhere looking.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
To hurt and to harm our young girls, and we're
watching that, whether in Europe or even hear on our
own land. I'm talking to my twenty year old son
making sure he knows not to marry a feminist woman,
but to you know, and what will happen if he
does right, as she is the hand that will rock
the cradle and raise his children.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And so that's the role of the woman.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And so a lot of my time is spent talking
to other women about what it means to you know,
to that the highest achievement is not what I've been
able to accomplish on my resume, and I've done a
lot of great things I can add to my resume,
but the most important decision I made as a young
woman with my husband is one to get married before
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having children. After that learning the art of how to
keep a happy home raising my own children, which meant
I had to step out of corporate America homeschooling my
own children because I didn't want them to be indoctrinated
with some of the things that we're now watching in
the public school system. These are hard choices, but if
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I could do it again, I would choose that path
a million times.
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Speaker 1 (18:29):
Go to Kathy Barnett dot com. Check out our program.
She does a great show. Go check that out. Get
her book called Nothing to Lose, Everything to Gain Being
Black and conservative in America. Let me just pick you
back on one point that you made. The black pastors
were literally paid off to allow for abortion clinics in
black neighborhoods, and they were telling young black women have
an abortion. And that's why there is such a massive
amount of serial killing in the black and Black community
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when it comes to unborn children. And that's something that
people still try to act like didn't happen. It happened.
They were paid off by Planned Parenthood, run by Margaret Sanger,
who wanted to weed the Blacks out of society. She
said that, So at the end of the day, I
think that that community is play waking up, and I
want the community to wake up and be part of
the America community that I want to get into now.
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America to fifty I'm really, really proud. I'm fifty nine
years old. When I see the red, white and blue,
it brings some wells to my eyes when I hear
somebody play it. I played the National Intimate Talkers. I
love playing the song. I'm very, very proud of what
the flag symbolizes. But this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
we've got a division in this country like I don't
think we've ever seen since the Civil War. The division
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is the Democrats, or twenty nine percent of them are
proud to be American, twenty nine percent, it's over seventy
percent for Republicans. Kathy, How the hell did that happen?
How did we let that happen? And can we bring
people who think they're Democrats, think they're on that side.
Can we bring them back to understanding how great the
opportunity at least afforded here is because they don't like
the country.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
And it's real and it's palpable.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
When I was running for office, or when I was
working with the Vivak Promise Wan Me presidential campaign, and
we would go on to college campuses and I would
say things like I love this country, and to see
the shock and the awe on the faces of young
Americans who have been trained and indoctrinated for many years,
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that our first response should be to apologize for America.
So one we need to start teaching what it means
to be an American.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
We need to.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I mean, I remember being in the military and one
of my one of the first places I went was
South Korea, and then being able to get back to
America and kissing the ground which I got back and like,
oh my God, literally, oh my thank you Lord.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'm so proud to be an American.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
And this is from someone who has the blood of
slaves coursing through her veins, and having taken the time
to read about our founding fathers, the good, the bad,
the despicable things that have taken place in this country
and still come out, and then having traveled much of
the world and seeing how people actually live, reading about
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communism and socialism and what those promises tend to work
out in people lives, and then being able to come
back to this country and realize that I was able
to claw my way out of dire poverty because of
this country, because of the mechanism that allowed someone like
me not to be placed in a cast system, and
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not to be relegated as a peasant, but to be
able to pursue happiness as I saw it, you know,
but you have to play by some rules. For me,
it was giving my life to the Lord. But secondly
followed right after that is getting an education, waiting to
get married before I have children. So anyway, the point
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is we have to do a better job, those of
us who know truth. We have to use whatever the
platform may be, whether it's just me walking over to
my neighbor's home and beginning to speak out loud about
how great this country is and how grateful we are
to be an American that used to.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Be assumed that used to be. Listen, you and I
could disagree on a few things. Politically, you and I
can disagree in a few things. Socially, you and I
would agree that we love the country. There was never
even a question about that. And for some reason, we
have made forty to fifty percent of this country question
whether we're great or not. And I noticed, Katherine, they're
not leaving. More and more people are flooding in. So
I mean that alone tells us how great the country is.
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But when we see something like the hatred artists saying
I'm not going to perform at at the Capitol for
America to fifty because I don't like the guy in
the White House. That's decidedly stupid. Had Barack Obama asked
me to go play the national anthem when he was
the president, I would have and I wouldn't have said
I hate you as a president. I didn't hate the guy,
he just didn't like his policies. This something has changed
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with a younger generation. Do you think that academia did this?
Do you think Hollywood did this? You think big music
did this? Who did this?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
All of the above once again, But they can only
do it because mothers have left the home. We have
diminished the importance of the of the mother's role in
the home, and we would place greater significance on her
being outside of the home. Greater value is placed on
her if she's outside of the home making a difference.
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So again, for me, it comes right back down. I mean,
I have a quick story if you don't mind, Do
I have a moment? You know? So, my husband and
I had decided that I would you know, stay home
longer instead of just when the kids go to school.
We decided we would homeschool the kids. So now I'm
having to extend my time in the home versus out
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in the workforce. But by this time, I am now
going to Fox News up in Manhattan two to three
times every single week for four years from twenty sixteen
to twenty.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Twenty, and we loved it.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
The kids would get in the car and they would
send a car down and bring us up to New
York and we loved it. But one day, it was
about twenty of us who were doing a veteran panel,
and the resumes of these young men and women were
just so impressive, and Heraldo happened to be in the
green room and he was just sitting there absorbing.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
All of the energy. He was the big cheese in
the green room.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
He was very very nice man, very magnanimous, but he
was asking every person.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Well, what do you do? What do you do? What
do you do?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And I felt, any minute he's going to ask me
what I do. And I felt this over sense, this
overwhelming sense of shame because all I do is homeschool
my kids. And I remember trying to weasel out and
wiggle my way to the back of the room. But
as I was doing it. Hearaldo and my eyes locked.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
He asked, what do you do? And I just blurted out,
I homeschooled my.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Kid and he that he that, hmm, I don't know
how I feel about that, and I that good because
I didn't ask you.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And I started.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Laughing to break the break the tension. He laughed, Everyone
else laughed. But that was the very first time because
as a Christian Conservative who've been fighting against feminism, I
would have never thought that you know that that I
had been touched by feminism. That says what I'm doing
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as a woman, as a mother is not important unless
I have this long, fancy title behind my name. But
that was just But that was the first time that
I was able to actually label what that dynamic on
the inside of myself was was was all about.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
It was it's the pervasiveness.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
You don't even have to be taught feminism and the
rules of feminism, that my importance is more outside of
the home than it is inside the home. It was
just a part of the atmosphere, part of the culture.
And that's the same way with this sense of just
hatefulness and and vitriol towards the greatest country that has
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ever existed.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
No one at this.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Point has to go out and teach our children that
you should apologize for having all the privileges of being
born an American. It's just something you walk into, right,
And so I think of it from that perspective, Well,
what is it that we need to do. We need
those of us who know better. We need to create
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an environment that challenges that pervasive culture by sharing our
own values, because that's what culture is is shared values,
shared beliefs, shared ideas.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And we need to be people like you and I
and others.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
The President has the largest bully pulpit in the nation,
standing up and putting the money behind the resources to
create this culture of gratitude.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Look how amazing we are.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
He's doing that a little bit with cleaning up Washington,
DC and the Lincoln Reflection poll. Is that sense of pride?
Those are the things that we can do. There is
no magic wand to take us back to where we
used to be when you and I grew up in
this atmosphere of appreciation. It really is day by day,
minute by minute, people like you and I making a
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decision that I'm grateful for the nation that I was
born into and I'm going to talk about it publicly.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I love it. You know, it's so stupid that we're
arguing about the pool. How stupid is that we're arguing
about the reflecting pool. The left wants more algae, the
right just wants it cleaned and looked nice. And you
literally have people vandalizing it because they really don't want
it to look nice, even though Obama spent one hundred
million dollars trying to fix it and he didn't. Trump
spent a whole lot less than that, and people are
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literally trying to make it green again because he's a
quote unquote fascist, which is so stupid. Let me finish
with this, and I love what you just said. That
was amazing. You, by the way, had the most important
job in that green room that day, bar none. I mean,
my wife stays home and her job is so she
takes care of everything so that we don't have to
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worry about everything being taken care of. And you, as
somebody who's done that and has done it for a
long time, you know what I'm talking about. As much
as I bring in the money, as much as I
try to protect and hunt and gather, she takes care
of all of it, and I get that the role
that you play was way more important than anybody else
in that green room. Let me finish with this. Had
you made it into the Senate, and you know that
I advocated for you as hard as I could. Had
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you made it, Had you made it into the Senate,
and had you just had to vote on the War
Powers Act like this, A Republican run Senate Kathy yesterday
said the President has to bring the troops back from
the region. They really dared say that. He has to
ignore Iran killing Americans. I think it's one American every
three or four days by if you average it out.
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He has to ignore that, ignore their nuclear aspirations, and
bring them back. Had you been in the Senate, what
would you have said to your colleagues when they voted
that way?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Oh, let me tell you. And one I meant talk about.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Flipping over tables and making sure, you know, making sure
that the people understand what's going on. I mean, the
only thing Republicans fear besides losing their seat is being shane,
having a spotlight placed on them.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I mean, we're some.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Of the most, you know, just some of the most
I don't know, weak willed, people in the remaining party,
Like we have the House, we have the Senate, we
have the Executive Office, and we can't even protect our
own elections, right. And there's something that I learned when
I was, you know, running and now walking behind the
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curtains in my own Senate race, now with Vivek on
the presidential campaign and being in the room with a
lot of these people. I mean, we're really in trouble.
We have not elected the best of us. And what
I saw when I was on the ground is that
we have some of the best people, but those who
have wiggled and slithered their way into positions of power,
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or truly some of the worst of us, who are
just you knowatures who just have an insatiable appetite for power.
And we're watching it right, I Mean, look at where
we are. We control the House to send it and
the White House, and we still have not done a
mass deportation.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
We have not secured our elections. We still have boys
and girls sports, like, what are we doing? And the
clock is ticking And I've been looking at the number
of races all across the nation and the fact that
we're even in a situation with these demented lunatics on
the left that we're we're that some of our seats
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are actually being threatened, Like what are they offering the
American people? And the fact that we're even in this
position should be pissing most of us off, Like how
in the world do we get into a position where
we could lose control of the House? How did this happen?
What are Democrats offering? And I can't just blame the
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Democrat Party. I have to look at my own party
and say, what in the world have we been doing
with the opportunity that so many people like myself and
like you were out here on the ground beating the
ground over the last three elections to make sure Donald
Trump gets an office. We're not getting a whole lot
out of what we thought we would be getting domestically
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from the control of all three chambers.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And I'll answer you this way. The Democrats aren't doing
anything other than saying Trump bead. Democrats aren't doing anything
other than saying Barnett and Pag's bead. And for some reason,
there are people now that will sit in their hands
and not vote. For some reason, there are people that
are in the middle that are independents that are going
I don't like how mean that truth social post was
by Trump's I'm going to go vote for a Democrat.
And at the same time, the undercurrent is you've got
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people like Mamdani and this guy who just beat Dan
Goldman in a primary New York who's also this radical
socialist from South Asia. So you've got a lot of
that going on in the undercurrent. As the top level Democrats,
you're just complaining Republicans bad. You have to vote for
us because we're not quite as bad. And I hope
that we can wake people up before November. And you're right.
Passing the Save America Act should have been so easy
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with these these majorities that we have in both the
House and the Senate, and for some reason it didn't
get done. Kathy, I love having you on. Go to
Kathy Barnett dot com. It's book. Barnett is b A
R N E T T E dot com and go
get her book Nothing to Lose, Everything to Gain being
Black and Conservative in America. I just love having you on.
It always brings a lot of joy to my life.
Let's do it again very soon.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Can we absolutely thank you so much?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You're amazing. That's it for this one. Another unshaken and
unafraid with Joe Paggs. He dropped very soon. We're back
after this
Kathie, what are you thinking? Why would you ever not
take the easy road and just be a Democrat and
hate everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I know, I tell my friends all the time, I
didn't get any benefit from being black, Like I didn't
get any of the privileges, so any of those things.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Right, Well, what is it in our day and age
that we're one hundred and fifty years away from slavery?
Things still aren't perfect, we're still working on it. But
you've got young black people in this country coming up
in places like Chicago and Washington, DC taking over malls
and taking over the Chipotle and you know, doing these
team takeovers. And they're not just takeovers, they're they're rioting,
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They're causing mayhem, they're vandalizing. Is this a lack of
parents problem? Is this a perception? Is their reality problem?
What do you think is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You know what, I would choose all of the above, right,
And it's not. And it's much bigger than just a
black people problem or just woke white people problem.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
There is something that has been lost fundamentally with our country.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
And it was one of the reasons why.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
When I came out and decided to run for office,
I started sharing my own story as a reminder to
the American people of how far our nation has moved right,
Because if anyone had the ability to claim to be
a victim, I think I were qualified for it. I
grew up on a pig farm, grew up in a
home with no insallation, no running water, outhouse, and the
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back weld on the side. I grew up in the
home of my great great great grandmother, Rota, who was
a slave. So I had the blood of slaves coursing
through my veins. And yet when I was growing up
in dire poverty, I don't recall anyone ever looking at
me and saying, Kathy, hang it up, you got three strikes.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You're black, you're a woman, you're poor. It's over, kid.
No one ever said that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Instead, I saw every household in that little community had
a man, had a father in the household. Everyone wore
the mother well always in the home. It was a
community that had the bar of expectation was raised high
for the black kids.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
In that community.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It wasn't a bar of low expectation for us. And
I never grew up thinking I.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Was a victim.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
No one ever told me I was a victim, and
so I went on to create truly an amazing life
off standing on the shoulders of so many who came
before me. Right, I don't have a victim mentality, and
I certainly didn't pass it down to my children. But
what we're watching today, whether we're looking at black kids
acting wild and uncontrolled, or whether we're looking at these
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highly privileged white kids behaving in ways that are or
woke white women who are behaving in ways that are
completely unseemly, there's something deeper that is going on, and
I believe it is a weaponization of the history of
this country. To get a marriage is to really just
it was someone said America cannot be destroyed from without.
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It would be if we are destroyed, it would be
from with then, And that is what we're watching and unraveling.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
From with then.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It is Kathy Barnett. Go to Kathy with a k.
Barnett b A R N E T T E dot com.
Go get her book. It's called Nothing to Lose, Everything
to gain being black and conservative in America. I want
voices like yours to be amplified. That's why I'm so
happy to have you back in my show. Voices like yours,
and voices like others that have come from nothing. Ben
Carson came from nothing, a poor kid in Detroit became
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the world renowned neurosurgeon. You are examples Tiger Woods taking
on golf and doing so well as he did for
getting his recent you know, problems that he's had, but
he was somebody that told the black community you can
go play golf. You're telling people you can be a
talk show host, you can be an author, you can
run for office. Ben Carson, you can be a brain surgeon.
His brother is a rocket scientist. For god sis. We
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need more examples like that. But instead, the examples that
we're throwing at at the young black children in this
country are Barack Obama who grew up privileged in Hawaii.
Are Kamala Harris, who grew up privileged in Canada, you
know what I mean. And they're trying to act like
they're from the hood. They're from the streets. I'll never forget.
Barack Obama was in the booth as the White Sox
were playing the baseball game, and the announcers said, what
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is your favorite team growing up? He said, the White Sox.
I'm a White Sox guy. And he said, who is
your favorite player growing up? Just an innocuous question, Kathy.
He couldn't name one player because he's lying. So why
is it that the spot like it shined on people
like that that aren't a good example to Black America
and not on people like you who are.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, because it is a grift. It is a tremendous
amount of power. And that is what the Jesse Jackson's
and Al Sharpton's learned during the sixties. Shelby Steele and
his son Eli Still, they wrote a book that they
coined White Guilt and what they realized in the sixties
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because up until you know LBJ and the Great and
the Great Society and the Civil Rights movement or the
Civil Rights Bill, in the early.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Nineteen sixty three nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Four, black people were actually becoming on parity with white people.
And I mean the number of doctors and lawyers, it
was exponential in the black community, the number of businesses
and intact family. There were more black people getting married
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than white people who were getting married. The number of
children growing up and a two parent household was seventy
percent or higher. In New York City, for example. Today
is the inverse where eighty percent of black children are
growing up in a single parent household. So we were
actually becoming on parody with white people.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And then you had you know.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
LBJ, the Great White Society, Civil Rights Movement, Education Board,
and what they realized, the black grifters like Al Sharpton
and others, they realized this thing called white guilt. You
had white people who felt some kind of way about
how black people, you know, the disparities between black people
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and white people, with Jim Crow and all of that,
and they realize, oh, we can we can grift off
of this, we can take advantage of this, and we
can sell access to these white white people, many of
them into the black community Just pay me nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Then you had on the other side.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Of that coin of white guilt, Shelby Steele and his
son Eli still talk about, is white people who wanted
at that time, white liberals, who white democrats who wanted
to take advantage and get access to the Black community.
So you had this symbiotic relationship of those who were
the spokespeople for a black community selling access to the
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black community and selling a lot of the narratives that
have kept black people on what many of us call
the Democrat plantation for seventy plus years. The good thing
about it is that you have a number of black people.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I've done many shows with black men on the streets
of Philadelphia who are beginning to wake up to this
narrative that they've been living according to for the past
seventy years, that if you're black, you must vote Democrat,
otherwise you're not black.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
They're waking up to it now.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
They're not waking up to the narrative and becoming a
Republicist necessarily. But the opportunity in this disruption is that
for the first time in my lifetime, black people are
questioning this narrative that if you're black, you must vote Democrat.
And I think that is the opportunity for us.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean, Joe Biden literally said that to Charlemage or somebody.
He said, if you don't know who to vote for,
you ain't black. So when you do something like that,
when we go back and unraveling what you just said,
was very very intelligent, but let's deep dive it a
little bit. LBJ was one of the biggest races we've
ever had in the White House period. End of story.
He didn't do that because he cared about black people.
He did that because he wanted to own the black vote.
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And in fact that worked. It worked very well. There
were black economies in black neighborhoods that were better than
a lot of white economies. And like you said, doctors
and lawyers and teachers and those running schools and business owners.
That was flourishing. And what the government did in nineteen
sixty four, by that swife of a pen was say
we're going to give you everything unique because it's unfair
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in our society. Suddenly they told black fathers, don't worry
about being in the house. We'll take care of the kids.
They told black moms and dads, don't worry about working hard.
We'll give you some free food and some free money
and some free education. And once you've got your grips
in a community like that, it's hard to give it up.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, I'll hold my nose and vote for Trump, but
I don't want to lose all of my entitlements that
I'm getting. We've got two or three generations of young
Black Americans that grew up thinking daddy government owes me something,
and that disincentivizes people from succeeding. I mean, that's what
I think you and I are saying the same thing, right.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I am so emotional. I was just listening to you.
I am pissed off.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Good hang up here.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Black people.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I mean I would drive, I take I take the
streets mostly when I drive around Philadelphia, so that I
can learn the different neighborhoods. And you know, every single
time when you just drove into a predominantly black community,
because it's concrete jungle, no green space, it's bug bit
bedbug signs everywhere, trash and mattresses lined up.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Liquor stores on every corner.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You don't see businesses, you don't see you don't see
home ownership in most of these inner city black, predominantly
black communities, And it just.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Really rubs me raw.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And I think again, black men, specifically black women, it's
a different story, but black men. I saw this when
I was running against doctor Oz and others in that
Pennsylvania senatorial race back in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Black men are waking up.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Black men are at the bottom of any list where
something is being delineated as good. If you pick any
list that shows anything positive, Black men specifically are at
the bottom of that list. And you're right, the government
became the black woman's baby daddy.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
He's paying for the rent, he's paying for the food,
paying for.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Internet, paying for car. You basically don't have to work.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You only need to never have a man in the home,
living in the home, and establishing a family. And we
understand the role of the father and the importance of
the father. Martin Luther King Junior said, the greatest weapon
against poverty is a two parent household. Like that's the
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beginning of the destruction of poverty. And that's the very
thing that with the swipe of a pen, as you said,
Lennon B. Johnson and the Democrat Party kind of wrote
that into law.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And we have seen it. And Lendon B.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Johnson is the one who said it that we will
have these n words voting Republicans for the next seventy years.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And he did not lie. We have I think I.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Think you said two hundred years. Actually I think you
said yeah. I mean, he looks like a huge We
still I live in Texas. We have parks named after
this idiot. We've got a lake named after this guy.
I mean, we're still acting like he somehow was the
be all end. He wasn't. He was the person that
told black men, you have no responsibility in society, you
have no responsibility for your family. We got it, and
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then black men his whole his whole purpose was to
disenfranchise black men from being leaders in their community. And
it worked. And it makes me crazy, but I do
think that there's there's a change happening. It's Kathy Barnett.
Go get her book. It's called Nothing to Lose, Everything
to Gain being Black and conservative in America. And I
don't want to make this all about race, because you've
got a lot to say about a lot of other things.
But let me finish with this. Yeah, as as I
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was growing up in a two parent household, my mother,
I think, let me flourish intellectually, let me flourish through
my of words. My father just had to give me
a look, and if I was acting out, I stopped.
I did not want to disappoint dad. And I'm now
the father of five daughters, and I've got three grandchildren.
And you met one of my daughters recently in New York.
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And these people are going up knowing that Dad was
going to be sort of the compass when it came
to responsibility. Mom does everything else, but that's that's my role,
and I love that role. I think any man, black, white,
anything in between would love to have that role if
they know it's there for them. But instead, we've got
a community that thinks I don't have to take responsibility
for what I'm doing here. Let me go act out.
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How do we fix that? How do we make how
do we make young black men understand that taking I
feel great being the leader of my house. I feel
great being somebody that my daughters can turn to for advice.
How do we make young black men understand that's their
role too?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Well?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You know it's not going to happen overnight, right like
what we've been the fruits of Lbjy's labor did not
happen overnight.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It took time.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But let me also say LB Jay could not have
done what he did, and woke white Democrats could not
have done what they did if it wasn't for black pastors, primarily.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Jesse Jackson's right.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, they pay them off, and they continue to pay
many of these black pastors in the black community off because,
unlike any other community, the black pastor have historically held
the role of going out into the culture, getting the
information coming back into the Black community and and and
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breaking it down for of what it is we need
to do, what's right, what's wrong? Uh, it's just the
historical positioning of the of the black pastor and the
black community. And so so, you know, so I don't
want to give LBJ all the credit for destroying the
black family. You also have a big bright spotlight on
black pastors as.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well, who have been.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
A significant gatekeeper who gets to come into the black
community and speak to the black community. But with that said,
you know, this is one of the things that I mean,
I didn't even know I was fighting against feminism when
I was fighting against feminism as a young girl, when
I gave my life to the Lord at nineteen and
began to say, well, that looks stupid with the you know,
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the feminist playbook that is handed down to every little
girl that says, you know, you can go out into
like that. You can go into a night club by yourself.
You can buy a drink, you can walk away from
the drink, you can come back and drink the drink,
and you never have to worry about someone spiking your
drink because you have in my case, black Girl Magic,
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or for your daughter Sam's case, you go girl magic. Right,
you are a woman, Let everybody hear you roar. And
what feminism has done over the years for those who
are played by the feminist playbook, I'm looking at a
lot of thirty eight and forty two year old women
who are looking back and saying, Oh my god, what
have I done with my life? I slept with any
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and everyone. I now have HPV and every other kind
of venarial disease.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I'm not married.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'm looking you know, I've made myself kind of ineligible
for a man to want to marry.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
What have I done with my life?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And I, you know, a lot of my time when
I speak on the radio or in public speaking, I'm
talking about how feminism has betrayed the woman, and how
feminism has alienated men and women, making it very difficult
for men and women, husband and wife to come together
and to communicate and to build a family in the
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right way. Right. So, I'm spending a lot of my
time talking to my seventeen year old daughter what it
means to be a woman, and the ideal situation is
for her to leave the covering of her father and
brother who loves her very much, and walk into the
covering of her husband.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Because there are predators everywhere looking.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
To hurt and to harm our young girls, and we're
watching that, whether in Europe or even hear on our
own land. I'm talking to my twenty year old son
making sure he knows not to marry a feminist woman,
but to you know, and what will happen if he
does right, as she is the hand that will rock
the cradle and raise his children.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And so that's the role of the woman.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And so a lot of my time is spent talking
to other women about what it means to you know,
to that the highest achievement is not what I've been
able to accomplish on my resume, and I've done a
lot of great things I can add to my resume,
but the most important decision I made as a young
woman with my husband is one to get married before
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having children. After that learning the art of how to
keep a happy home raising my own children, which meant
I had to step out of corporate America homeschooling my
own children because I didn't want them to be indoctrinated
with some of the things that we're now watching in
the public school system. These are hard choices, but if
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I could do it again, I would choose that path
a million times.
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Black and conservative in America. Let me just pick you
back on one point that you made. The black pastors
were literally paid off to allow for abortion clinics in
black neighborhoods, and they were telling young black women have
an abortion. And that's why there is such a massive
amount of serial killing in the black and Black community
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when it comes to unborn children. And that's something that
people still try to act like didn't happen. It happened.
They were paid off by Planned Parenthood, run by Margaret Sanger,
who wanted to weed the Blacks out of society. She
said that, So at the end of the day, I
think that that community is play waking up, and I
want the community to wake up and be part of
the America community that I want to get into now.
(19:12):
America to fifty I'm really, really proud. I'm fifty nine
years old. When I see the red, white and blue,
it brings some wells to my eyes when I hear
somebody play it. I played the National Intimate Talkers. I
love playing the song. I'm very, very proud of what
the flag symbolizes. But this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
we've got a division in this country like I don't
think we've ever seen since the Civil War. The division
(19:33):
is the Democrats, or twenty nine percent of them are
proud to be American, twenty nine percent, it's over seventy
percent for Republicans. Kathy, How the hell did that happen?
How did we let that happen? And can we bring
people who think they're Democrats, think they're on that side.
Can we bring them back to understanding how great the
opportunity at least afforded here is because they don't like
the country.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
And it's real and it's palpable.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
When I was running for office, or when I was
working with the Vivak Promise Wan Me presidential campaign, and
we would go on to college campuses and I would
say things like I love this country, and to see
the shock and the awe on the faces of young
Americans who have been trained and indoctrinated for many years,
(20:16):
that our first response should be to apologize for America.
So one we need to start teaching what it means
to be an American.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
We need to.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I mean, I remember being in the military and one
of my one of the first places I went was
South Korea, and then being able to get back to
America and kissing the ground which I got back and like,
oh my God, literally, oh my thank you Lord.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'm so proud to be an American.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
And this is from someone who has the blood of
slaves coursing through her veins, and having taken the time
to read about our founding fathers, the good, the bad,
the despicable things that have taken place in this country
and still come out, and then having traveled much of
the world and seeing how people actually live, reading about
(21:06):
communism and socialism and what those promises tend to work
out in people lives, and then being able to come
back to this country and realize that I was able
to claw my way out of dire poverty because of
this country, because of the mechanism that allowed someone like
me not to be placed in a cast system, and
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not to be relegated as a peasant, but to be
able to pursue happiness as I saw it, you know,
but you have to play by some rules. For me,
it was giving my life to the Lord. But secondly
followed right after that is getting an education, waiting to
get married before I have children. So anyway, the point
(21:49):
is we have to do a better job, those of
us who know truth. We have to use whatever the
platform may be, whether it's just me walking over to
my neighbor's home and beginning to speak out loud about
how great this country is and how grateful we are
to be an American that used to.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Be assumed that used to be. Listen, you and I
could disagree on a few things. Politically, you and I
can disagree in a few things. Socially, you and I
would agree that we love the country. There was never
even a question about that. And for some reason, we
have made forty to fifty percent of this country question
whether we're great or not. And I noticed, Katherine, they're
not leaving. More and more people are flooding in. So
I mean that alone tells us how great the country is.
(22:29):
But when we see something like the hatred artists saying
I'm not going to perform at at the Capitol for
America to fifty because I don't like the guy in
the White House. That's decidedly stupid. Had Barack Obama asked
me to go play the national anthem when he was
the president, I would have and I wouldn't have said
I hate you as a president. I didn't hate the guy,
he just didn't like his policies. This something has changed
(22:49):
with a younger generation. Do you think that academia did this?
Do you think Hollywood did this? You think big music
did this? Who did this?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
All of the above once again, But they can only
do it because mothers have left the home. We have
diminished the importance of the of the mother's role in
the home, and we would place greater significance on her
being outside of the home. Greater value is placed on
her if she's outside of the home making a difference.
(23:20):
So again, for me, it comes right back down. I mean,
I have a quick story if you don't mind, Do
I have a moment? You know? So, my husband and
I had decided that I would you know, stay home
longer instead of just when the kids go to school.
We decided we would homeschool the kids. So now I'm
having to extend my time in the home versus out
(23:41):
in the workforce. But by this time, I am now
going to Fox News up in Manhattan two to three
times every single week for four years from twenty sixteen
to twenty.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Twenty, and we loved it.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
The kids would get in the car and they would
send a car down and bring us up to New
York and we loved it. But one day, it was
about twenty of us who were doing a veteran panel,
and the resumes of these young men and women were
just so impressive, and Heraldo happened to be in the
green room and he was just sitting there absorbing.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
All of the energy. He was the big cheese in
the green room.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
He was very very nice man, very magnanimous, but he
was asking every person.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Well, what do you do? What do you do? What
do you do?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And I felt, any minute he's going to ask me
what I do. And I felt this over sense, this
overwhelming sense of shame because all I do is homeschool
my kids. And I remember trying to weasel out and
wiggle my way to the back of the room. But
as I was doing it. Hearaldo and my eyes locked.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
He asked, what do you do? And I just blurted out,
I homeschooled my.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Kid and he that he that, hmm, I don't know
how I feel about that, and I that good because
I didn't ask you.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And I started.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Laughing to break the break the tension. He laughed, Everyone
else laughed. But that was the very first time because
as a Christian Conservative who've been fighting against feminism, I
would have never thought that you know that that I
had been touched by feminism. That says what I'm doing
(25:23):
as a woman, as a mother is not important unless
I have this long, fancy title behind my name. But
that was just But that was the first time that
I was able to actually label what that dynamic on
the inside of myself was was was all about.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
It was it's the pervasiveness.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
You don't even have to be taught feminism and the
rules of feminism, that my importance is more outside of
the home than it is inside the home. It was
just a part of the atmosphere, part of the culture.
And that's the same way with this sense of just
hatefulness and and vitriol towards the greatest country that has
(26:03):
ever existed.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
No one at this.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Point has to go out and teach our children that
you should apologize for having all the privileges of being
born an American. It's just something you walk into, right,
And so I think of it from that perspective, Well,
what is it that we need to do. We need
those of us who know better. We need to create
(26:25):
an environment that challenges that pervasive culture by sharing our
own values, because that's what culture is is shared values,
shared beliefs, shared ideas.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And we need to be people like you and I
and others.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
The President has the largest bully pulpit in the nation,
standing up and putting the money behind the resources to
create this culture of gratitude.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Look how amazing we are.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
He's doing that a little bit with cleaning up Washington,
DC and the Lincoln Reflection poll. Is that sense of pride?
Those are the things that we can do. There is
no magic wand to take us back to where we
used to be when you and I grew up in
this atmosphere of appreciation. It really is day by day,
minute by minute, people like you and I making a
(27:15):
decision that I'm grateful for the nation that I was
born into and I'm going to talk about it publicly.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I love it. You know, it's so stupid that we're
arguing about the pool. How stupid is that we're arguing
about the reflecting pool. The left wants more algae, the
right just wants it cleaned and looked nice. And you
literally have people vandalizing it because they really don't want
it to look nice, even though Obama spent one hundred
million dollars trying to fix it and he didn't. Trump
spent a whole lot less than that, and people are
(27:42):
literally trying to make it green again because he's a
quote unquote fascist, which is so stupid. Let me finish
with this, and I love what you just said. That
was amazing. You, by the way, had the most important
job in that green room that day, bar none. I mean,
my wife stays home and her job is so she
takes care of everything so that we don't have to
(28:02):
worry about everything being taken care of. And you, as
somebody who's done that and has done it for a
long time, you know what I'm talking about. As much
as I bring in the money, as much as I
try to protect and hunt and gather, she takes care
of all of it, and I get that the role
that you play was way more important than anybody else
in that green room. Let me finish with this. Had
you made it into the Senate, and you know that
I advocated for you as hard as I could. Had
(28:23):
you made it, Had you made it into the Senate,
and had you just had to vote on the War
Powers Act like this, A Republican run Senate Kathy yesterday
said the President has to bring the troops back from
the region. They really dared say that. He has to
ignore Iran killing Americans. I think it's one American every
three or four days by if you average it out.
(28:44):
He has to ignore that, ignore their nuclear aspirations, and
bring them back. Had you been in the Senate, what
would you have said to your colleagues when they voted
that way?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Oh, let me tell you. And one I meant talk about.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Flipping over tables and making sure, you know, making sure
that the people understand what's going on. I mean, the
only thing Republicans fear besides losing their seat is being shane,
having a spotlight placed on them.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I mean, we're some.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Of the most, you know, just some of the most
I don't know, weak willed, people in the remaining party,
Like we have the House, we have the Senate, we
have the Executive Office, and we can't even protect our
own elections, right. And there's something that I learned when
I was, you know, running and now walking behind the
(29:34):
curtains in my own Senate race, now with Vivek on
the presidential campaign and being in the room with a
lot of these people. I mean, we're really in trouble.
We have not elected the best of us. And what
I saw when I was on the ground is that
we have some of the best people, but those who
have wiggled and slithered their way into positions of power,
(29:56):
or truly some of the worst of us, who are
just you knowatures who just have an insatiable appetite for power.
And we're watching it right, I Mean, look at where
we are. We control the House to send it and
the White House, and we still have not done a
mass deportation.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
We have not secured our elections. We still have boys
and girls sports, like, what are we doing? And the
clock is ticking And I've been looking at the number
of races all across the nation and the fact that
we're even in a situation with these demented lunatics on
the left that we're we're that some of our seats
(30:39):
are actually being threatened, Like what are they offering the
American people? And the fact that we're even in this
position should be pissing most of us off, Like how
in the world do we get into a position where
we could lose control of the House? How did this happen?
What are Democrats offering? And I can't just blame the
(31:02):
Democrat Party. I have to look at my own party
and say, what in the world have we been doing
with the opportunity that so many people like myself and
like you were out here on the ground beating the
ground over the last three elections to make sure Donald
Trump gets an office. We're not getting a whole lot
out of what we thought we would be getting domestically
(31:24):
from the control of all three chambers.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And I'll answer you this way. The Democrats aren't doing
anything other than saying Trump bead. Democrats aren't doing anything
other than saying Barnett and Pag's bead. And for some reason,
there are people now that will sit in their hands
and not vote. For some reason, there are people that
are in the middle that are independents that are going
I don't like how mean that truth social post was
by Trump's I'm going to go vote for a Democrat.
And at the same time, the undercurrent is you've got
(31:49):
people like Mamdani and this guy who just beat Dan
Goldman in a primary New York who's also this radical
socialist from South Asia. So you've got a lot of
that going on in the undercurrent. As the top level Democrats,
you're just complaining Republicans bad. You have to vote for
us because we're not quite as bad. And I hope
that we can wake people up before November. And you're right.
Passing the Save America Act should have been so easy
(32:12):
with these these majorities that we have in both the
House and the Senate, and for some reason it didn't
get done. Kathy, I love having you on. Go to
Kathy Barnett dot com. It's book. Barnett is b A
R N E T T E dot com and go
get her book Nothing to Lose, Everything to Gain being
Black and Conservative in America. I just love having you on.
It always brings a lot of joy to my life.
Let's do it again very soon.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Can we absolutely thank you so much?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You're amazing. That's it for this one. Another unshaken and
unafraid with Joe Paggs. He dropped very soon. We're back
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