Sam Smith joins us for a raw and revealing conversation. Discover the surprising revelation about their journey from a young, talented singer to a global pop sensation. Sam talks about overcoming stage fright, the inspiring moments of writing their hit songs, and the unique way they find peace in New York City. Plus, get a sneak peek into Sam's intimate Brooklyn residency and learn why this next album might be their best work yet.

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00:00 Intro

04:53 Sam Smith’s Childhood and Early Influences

06:28 Navigating School as a Queer Kid

09:52 The Power of Music and Female Voices

20:41 Struggles with Weight and Self-Acceptance

26:27 First Experiences with Love and Heartbreak

31:30 Embarrassing Moments and Overcoming Stage Fright

34:21 Pursuing a Career in Music

36:22 Early Career and Record Deal Challenges

37:11 Deciding Between Musical Theater and Pop Stardom

37:58 Musical Influences and Recording Experiences

40:04 Family Influence and Early Performances

42:04 Themes of Love and Safety in Music

46:18 Personal Growth and Mental Health

47:34 Creating Authentic Music and Overcoming Challenges

49:40 New York Life and Relationship

54:27 The Importance of Water and Flow in Life

59:27 Reflecting on Career and Future Projects

01:07:55 Intimate Performances and New Music

01:12:07 Final Thoughts and Advice to Younger Self

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