November 27, 2025 • 13 mins
While the world’s attention was on South Africa for the G20, thousands of women across the country used the opportunity to protest South Africa’s serious issues with violence against women. Demonstrators held lie-in protests in cities across the country, including near the G20 summit itself, calling for the government to take action. According to UN statistics, South Africa’s female murder rate is more than 5 times the global average.
On this week’s episode, Government Reporter S’thembile Cela joins Tiwa Adebayo to explain how serious the crisis has become in South Africa, what impact the timing of the protests had and whether declaring violence against women a national disaster in South Africa will lead to any real change on the ground.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Women have gathered across South Africa to protest the high
level of gender based violence in the country.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
GBV is literally a national disaster in our country. It's
something that is unfortunately very close.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
To my heart.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
South Africa has one of the world's highest female murder rates,
more than five times the world average.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
The silence four fifteen minutes is a minute of silence
for every woman that would have fallen within the day.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
On today's episode of The Next Africa Podcast, we'll look
at South Africa's gender based violence crisis, how the G
twenty has put this issue into the spotlight, and how
the government is starting to recognize the scale of the issue.
I'm ta Ada Bio in for Jennifer's Abazar and this
is the Next Africa Podcast, bringing you one story each
(01:04):
week from the continent driving the future of global growth
with the context only Bloomberg can provide. Joining me this
week is our government reporters. Then be Ley Seller stem Bye,
Thanks very much for joining me.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So. While the world was looking at South Africa for
the G twenty campaign, groups seems to want to put
violence against women back on the agenda. What do we
know about how serious this issue is in South Africa.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It is safe to say that it's the biggest crisis
outside of that of the economy. Would even make the
argument that there's a link between the two. Women in
South Africa are killed five times higher than the global average,
and more often than not, it's by people that they know,
men that are intimate partners to them.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Just in twenty twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
During that period of COVID, we had three women that
were killed every day by an intimate partner.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
But it's also a woman who walk into.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
A post office, the case of a student in twenty
nineteen winning in Poitiana who walked into.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
A post office.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
She was taken by one of the post office officials.
She was raped and brucidly murdered. And that's just one
of many stories that every now and then come up
in the media strongly, and they do come to the
fore when media plays attention when there's a very kind
of horrific incident that stands out, But it's something that
happens on a day to day basis, and so there's
absolutely no question that there is a war on women
in this country.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And it is a very serious crisis that we're facing.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, And on that point of media attention, of course,
there was a lot of media attention on South Africa
for the G twenty. I was very struck by the
location chosen for some of these protests at the Union
Lawns in Pretorian, the seat of government, also fifteen other
locations across the country. Obviously the eyes of the world
were on South Africa at that point. Just how much
(02:50):
pressure do you think government leaders were under to kind
of put this situation to bed or be seen to
do something.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Look, I think it's something that's we see at all
D twenty meetings across the globe wherever there are where
different kind of advocacy and lobby groups use the opportunity
to essentially air the dirty laundry of what's happening at home,
to try and get an ear from the rest of
the world and to put pressure on their leaders to
do something about it. So in this case was absolutely
no difference. In addition to these kind of gender based
(03:19):
violence protests that we saw, there was a myriad of
others as well. But I think it was a very
careful move to kind of distance the meetings itself the
leadership summat where the world leaders were meeting, away from
where these protests were actually happening, and so the datus
to whether or not they were actually ever seen by
the world. Nevertheless, it was a platform that was taken
up quite strongly by hundreds, if not thousands of women
(03:40):
across the country, particularly in city centers where they staged
this lie down protests, for they were all dressed in black,
lying down on the floor. There was also encouragement for
women to not buy anything on the day to demonstrate
the kind of economic power that they wield as well.
All of this to send us and we're in a crisis.
We need to help somebody do something about it.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Talking about that time there, it's definitely something that was
on the mind of the organizers. I actually spoke to
one of them, Merley's Age Joe Gat from Women for Change,
that's one of the organizations the NGOs that were responsible
for these protests, and she told me a bit about
why they chose this moment in particular to take action.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
We chose to use the G twenty weekend for the
national shutdown because we knew that international eyes would be
on South Africa in this time, it was important for
the international community to recognize how serious femicide was in
South Africa and how dangerous this country is for.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Women every day.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
That was the only way that we knew the government
would be under prittsure to finally declared gen the base
violence and femicide and national disaster, which then automatically would
have opened up financial resources and implement changes on the
ground to start seeing the cases become less Sevilla.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Do you think the timing helped these protests have an impact.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I think it's difficult to say exactly beca because, like
we said that this is something that is part of
the course when it comes to G twenty meetings, there
were several other protests that were happening, so difficult to
say definitively whether there was any impact because of the
G twenty, but whether it was or it wasn't, I
think the relief is just that we are finally seeing
an indication that government is willing to change course in
(05:18):
some respects with regards to this crisis that has arguably
gotten worse over time and is as dark as those
of the economic challenges that are faced by South Africa.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, and it's really interesting because at the time of
this protest, there's been three consecutive G twenty presidencies from
the Global South, so we've had India, Brazil, and now
South Africa. These countries do have in common issues with
gender based violence. How much do you think the issue
has really come to the fore globally in terms of
(05:50):
these big international meetings.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I think it's something that even when you look at
the negotiations of the declaration that was adopted by leaders
last week, we're seeing what represidency of the G two
and C there's a strong emphasis that's made on gender
equality and rights in particular for women and children, and
I think on this occasion was no difference. And so
I think to the point that you're making, what we've
seen in Brazil, what we've seen in India, in this
(06:13):
global kind of South agenda that's been brought to the
four by the countries in this region, is that there
is a very much a concerted push to put this
on the table of world leaders. I think the question
really is in their own spaces, in their homes and
their countries that they lead, if this goes beyond rhetoric,
if it goes beyond this talk shop, beyond this declaration
and actually amounts to actions which can save the lives
(06:33):
of women that are on resac.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Stay with us then bulight when we come back, we'll
talk more about the impact of these protests and how
the government has responded.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Welcome back today on the podcast, we're talking about the
protests against South Africa's high rate of violence against women.
Our reporter stem belay Seller is still with me stimulate.
These protests were timed to make the most impact. How
has the South African government responded?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
So they've been calls for many years for what has
been termed South Africa's real pandemic and what it means
when you categorize something as a national disaster, which is
what we've seen of this crisis being declared in the
last few days, is that it's conditions in which you
suspend something like procurement laws, so in the event that
you have mass flooding, you can export out relief. You
don't need to follow the normal channels, which ordinarily would
(07:25):
slow things down. And that's not the situation that you
want right when you're in an emergency kind of situation.
And so previously it was tabled before government They've been
calls by NGOs, by other advocacy groups to say, this
matter is so extreme, it's so urgent that something out
of the ordinary, kind of the conditions that you saw
during the COVID nineteen pandemic, you need to do something
(07:46):
ordinary to save the lives of women.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
In practice, though, I think there's a lot of moving.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Parts and so it's not as clear cut as, for instance,
diverting funds from one department to another. There's a lot
of role players that are involved in the mix. So,
for instance, you need the to act when they.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Call upon to do so. That's not always the case.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
We have women that go to police stations brutalized by
their partners for or by a man that they've met
on the streets.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
The police laugh at them. The police don't give them
this time of day.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
The statements that are gathered by the police are inadequate
when it comes to the code processes. In terms of
standing up, you need government to be able to be
in a position to provide sufficient safe spaces for survivors.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
There aren't enough funds to go around to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
The safe shelters that we do have are poorly maintained
on the other side of it, you also need the
court to do their parts and ensuring that offenders don't
get bail, and that's not always the case. Repeatedly we've
seen someone that commits a heinous crime, or is accused
or is alleged to have done something like this in
the realm of gender based violence. They are then released
by a court on bail. They go out and they
(08:45):
or repeat offenders, they do the same thing. So we
know that if they had been kept behind bars while
awaiting trial, they would not have offended again. And so
I think these are the sorts of things that need
to be ironed out that once we do declare this
as has now been the case, as a national disaster,
what actually are are the practical implications. I think the
other side of this is that you can't actually police
people in their homes, and that speaks to the aspects
(09:07):
of this. Whereas a societal issue, right, it's an economic issue.
It's a patriarchal issue how men exercise their dominance, their
power over women that rely on them, and so it's
very difficult to police people in their home. Where children
are subjected to sexual assault by family members, where children
are groomed, they don't even know that the behavior that's
been brought upon them is wrong.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
And so who do they go to? Who do they
who do they speak to?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And in the instances where children do become away that hey,
this is not something that should be happening to me,
they'll go to elders in the family or in the
community and it will be swept under the rug.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And so I think it's those difficult dynamics that government
is going to actually have to contend with.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Is once you are saying you are not taking this seriously,
you're going to change course. Are all the parts in
place to actually make the successful Are we actually going
to see the numbers come down once the state of
disaster is fully implemented.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely not clear cut in terms
of implementation. But even in just the categorization this as
a national disaster, there was some confusion because previously the
National Disaster Management Center said that the categorization didn't meet
the legal requirements to be defined as a disaster. Now
(10:14):
they're saying it does after some review. What does that
really say about, you know, the government's handling of this
entire crisis. Are they taking it seriously? Are they only
bowing to external pressure. Why do you think there was
that discrepancy there?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Look, it's difficult to say, because, as we say, it's
an ongoing issue, and every now and then, when we
do have a case that for whatever reason attracts mass
media attention, or in the case of last week, you know,
something like the G twenty leader's summits, it does come
back onto their gender quite strongly. But we know that
on an every single day basis, woman off face with
these kind of peneous crimes, with this violence that is
(10:51):
imposed upon them, and we've seen repeatedly that there's been
a shortcoming in terms of a response from law enforcements,
and so it's really difficult to say that things are
going to get better or not by this. And I
think there's a number of things that need to be
resolved outside of even the law enforcement situation, outside of
the psychological societal issues. There's also an argument to be
(11:11):
made about the economic conditions that drive this kind of behavior.
And so I think improving that an empowering woman economically speaking,
would without a doubt maker dents in the scopes that
we've see.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Definitely, and in terms of looking to the future, as
the spotlight sort of moves away from the G twenty
and South Africa. What will you be looking for to
indicate that the government is actually trying to make a difference.
Will we be able to see real implementations of change
in the near future do you think so?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I think the first thing would be you would want
to have a situation where you have consultation between governments
and human rights groups, the Department of Social Development, them
coming together to formulate what the terms of reference for
the state of disaster actually look like. So, in practical terms,
what can we untly? Is it money that needs to
be unleashed, Does it need to be diverse it from
different budgets from different departments. What will that money actually
(12:06):
be used for? Is it something that we need beyond money?
Is it an issue around law enforcement and strengthening the
capabilities of that fund? Do you need to train police
officers differently? Do you need to train prosecutors in a
different way so that they're able to actually get convictions
when it comes to sexual crimes or anything else in
the realm of gender based violence? And so I think
it's a starting point to have this declaration, But it's
(12:28):
more in terms of the nuances in terms of references,
the practicalities of what it actually looks like before we
can actually make a judgment and whether or not it's
going to be successful and move beyond the myriad of
kind of talk shops and consultations that we've seen previously
in the past that have not actually amounted to anything.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And you can read all our coverage from the G
twenty across Blomberg platforms now, including President Trump's threat to
exclude South Africa from the next G twenty summit in Miami.
We'll put a link to that in our show notes.
Here's some other stories we've been following across the region
this week. Ivory Coast economic growth is poised to accelerate
(13:07):
in the next five years as the country season increase
in oil and gas activity. That's according to Planning and
Development Minister Cabiniale, who was speaking to Bloomberg. And Zambia's
inflation slowed to its lowest level in more than two
years as food price growth slowed. You can follow these
stories across Bloomberg, including the Next African Newsletter. We'll put
(13:30):
a link in our show notes. This program was produced
by Adrian Bradley. Don't forget to follow and review this
show wherever you usually get your podcasts. I'm t wa Adebayo.
Thank you for listening.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Women have gathered across South Africa to protest the high
level of gender based violence in the country.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
GBV is literally a national disaster in our country. It's
something that is unfortunately very close.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
To my heart.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
South Africa has one of the world's highest female murder rates,
more than five times the world average.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
The silence four fifteen minutes is a minute of silence
for every woman that would have fallen within the day.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
On today's episode of The Next Africa Podcast, we'll look
at South Africa's gender based violence crisis, how the G
twenty has put this issue into the spotlight, and how
the government is starting to recognize the scale of the issue.
I'm ta Ada Bio in for Jennifer's Abazar and this
is the Next Africa Podcast, bringing you one story each
(01:04):
week from the continent driving the future of global growth
with the context only Bloomberg can provide. Joining me this
week is our government reporters. Then be Ley Seller stem Bye,
Thanks very much for joining me.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So. While the world was looking at South Africa for
the G twenty campaign, groups seems to want to put
violence against women back on the agenda. What do we
know about how serious this issue is in South Africa.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It is safe to say that it's the biggest crisis
outside of that of the economy. Would even make the
argument that there's a link between the two. Women in
South Africa are killed five times higher than the global average,
and more often than not, it's by people that they know,
men that are intimate partners to them.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Just in twenty twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
During that period of COVID, we had three women that
were killed every day by an intimate partner.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
But it's also a woman who walk into.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
A post office, the case of a student in twenty
nineteen winning in Poitiana who walked into.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
A post office.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
She was taken by one of the post office officials.
She was raped and brucidly murdered. And that's just one
of many stories that every now and then come up
in the media strongly, and they do come to the
fore when media plays attention when there's a very kind
of horrific incident that stands out, But it's something that
happens on a day to day basis, and so there's
absolutely no question that there is a war on women
in this country.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And it is a very serious crisis that we're facing.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, And on that point of media attention, of course,
there was a lot of media attention on South Africa
for the G twenty. I was very struck by the
location chosen for some of these protests at the Union
Lawns in Pretorian, the seat of government, also fifteen other
locations across the country. Obviously the eyes of the world
were on South Africa at that point. Just how much
(02:50):
pressure do you think government leaders were under to kind
of put this situation to bed or be seen to
do something.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Look, I think it's something that's we see at all
D twenty meetings across the globe wherever there are where
different kind of advocacy and lobby groups use the opportunity
to essentially air the dirty laundry of what's happening at home,
to try and get an ear from the rest of
the world and to put pressure on their leaders to
do something about it. So in this case was absolutely
no difference. In addition to these kind of gender based
(03:19):
violence protests that we saw, there was a myriad of
others as well. But I think it was a very
careful move to kind of distance the meetings itself the
leadership summat where the world leaders were meeting, away from
where these protests were actually happening, and so the datus
to whether or not they were actually ever seen by
the world. Nevertheless, it was a platform that was taken
up quite strongly by hundreds, if not thousands of women
(03:40):
across the country, particularly in city centers where they staged
this lie down protests, for they were all dressed in black,
lying down on the floor. There was also encouragement for
women to not buy anything on the day to demonstrate
the kind of economic power that they wield as well.
All of this to send us and we're in a crisis.
We need to help somebody do something about it.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Talking about that time there, it's definitely something that was
on the mind of the organizers. I actually spoke to
one of them, Merley's Age Joe Gat from Women for Change,
that's one of the organizations the NGOs that were responsible
for these protests, and she told me a bit about
why they chose this moment in particular to take action.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
We chose to use the G twenty weekend for the
national shutdown because we knew that international eyes would be
on South Africa in this time, it was important for
the international community to recognize how serious femicide was in
South Africa and how dangerous this country is for.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Women every day.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
That was the only way that we knew the government
would be under prittsure to finally declared gen the base
violence and femicide and national disaster, which then automatically would
have opened up financial resources and implement changes on the
ground to start seeing the cases become less Sevilla.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Do you think the timing helped these protests have an impact.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I think it's difficult to say exactly beca because, like
we said that this is something that is part of
the course when it comes to G twenty meetings, there
were several other protests that were happening, so difficult to
say definitively whether there was any impact because of the
G twenty, but whether it was or it wasn't, I
think the relief is just that we are finally seeing
an indication that government is willing to change course in
(05:18):
some respects with regards to this crisis that has arguably
gotten worse over time and is as dark as those
of the economic challenges that are faced by South Africa.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, and it's really interesting because at the time of
this protest, there's been three consecutive G twenty presidencies from
the Global South, so we've had India, Brazil, and now
South Africa. These countries do have in common issues with
gender based violence. How much do you think the issue
has really come to the fore globally in terms of
(05:50):
these big international meetings.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I think it's something that even when you look at
the negotiations of the declaration that was adopted by leaders
last week, we're seeing what represidency of the G two
and C there's a strong emphasis that's made on gender
equality and rights in particular for women and children, and
I think on this occasion was no difference. And so
I think to the point that you're making, what we've
seen in Brazil, what we've seen in India, in this
(06:13):
global kind of South agenda that's been brought to the
four by the countries in this region, is that there
is a very much a concerted push to put this
on the table of world leaders. I think the question
really is in their own spaces, in their homes and
their countries that they lead, if this goes beyond rhetoric,
if it goes beyond this talk shop, beyond this declaration
and actually amounts to actions which can save the lives
(06:33):
of women that are on resac.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Stay with us then bulight when we come back, we'll
talk more about the impact of these protests and how
the government has responded.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Welcome back today on the podcast, we're talking about the
protests against South Africa's high rate of violence against women.
Our reporter stem belay Seller is still with me stimulate.
These protests were timed to make the most impact. How
has the South African government responded?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
So they've been calls for many years for what has
been termed South Africa's real pandemic and what it means
when you categorize something as a national disaster, which is
what we've seen of this crisis being declared in the
last few days, is that it's conditions in which you
suspend something like procurement laws, so in the event that
you have mass flooding, you can export out relief. You
don't need to follow the normal channels, which ordinarily would
(07:25):
slow things down. And that's not the situation that you
want right when you're in an emergency kind of situation.
And so previously it was tabled before government They've been
calls by NGOs, by other advocacy groups to say, this
matter is so extreme, it's so urgent that something out
of the ordinary, kind of the conditions that you saw
during the COVID nineteen pandemic, you need to do something
(07:46):
ordinary to save the lives of women.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
In practice, though, I think there's a lot of moving.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Parts and so it's not as clear cut as, for instance,
diverting funds from one department to another. There's a lot
of role players that are involved in the mix. So,
for instance, you need the to act when they.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Call upon to do so. That's not always the case.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
We have women that go to police stations brutalized by
their partners for or by a man that they've met
on the streets.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
The police laugh at them. The police don't give them
this time of day.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
The statements that are gathered by the police are inadequate
when it comes to the code processes. In terms of
standing up, you need government to be able to be
in a position to provide sufficient safe spaces for survivors.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
There aren't enough funds to go around to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
The safe shelters that we do have are poorly maintained
on the other side of it, you also need the
court to do their parts and ensuring that offenders don't
get bail, and that's not always the case. Repeatedly we've
seen someone that commits a heinous crime, or is accused
or is alleged to have done something like this in
the realm of gender based violence. They are then released
by a court on bail. They go out and they
(08:45):
or repeat offenders, they do the same thing. So we
know that if they had been kept behind bars while
awaiting trial, they would not have offended again. And so
I think these are the sorts of things that need
to be ironed out that once we do declare this
as has now been the case, as a national disaster,
what actually are are the practical implications. I think the
other side of this is that you can't actually police
people in their homes, and that speaks to the aspects
(09:07):
of this. Whereas a societal issue, right, it's an economic issue.
It's a patriarchal issue how men exercise their dominance, their
power over women that rely on them, and so it's
very difficult to police people in their home. Where children
are subjected to sexual assault by family members, where children
are groomed, they don't even know that the behavior that's
been brought upon them is wrong.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
And so who do they go to? Who do they
who do they speak to?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And in the instances where children do become away that hey,
this is not something that should be happening to me,
they'll go to elders in the family or in the
community and it will be swept under the rug.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And so I think it's those difficult dynamics that government
is going to actually have to contend with.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Is once you are saying you are not taking this seriously,
you're going to change course. Are all the parts in
place to actually make the successful Are we actually going
to see the numbers come down once the state of
disaster is fully implemented.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely not clear cut in terms
of implementation. But even in just the categorization this as
a national disaster, there was some confusion because previously the
National Disaster Management Center said that the categorization didn't meet
the legal requirements to be defined as a disaster. Now
(10:14):
they're saying it does after some review. What does that
really say about, you know, the government's handling of this
entire crisis. Are they taking it seriously? Are they only
bowing to external pressure. Why do you think there was
that discrepancy there?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Look, it's difficult to say, because, as we say, it's
an ongoing issue, and every now and then, when we
do have a case that for whatever reason attracts mass
media attention, or in the case of last week, you know,
something like the G twenty leader's summits, it does come
back onto their gender quite strongly. But we know that
on an every single day basis, woman off face with
these kind of peneous crimes, with this violence that is
(10:51):
imposed upon them, and we've seen repeatedly that there's been
a shortcoming in terms of a response from law enforcements,
and so it's really difficult to say that things are
going to get better or not by this. And I
think there's a number of things that need to be
resolved outside of even the law enforcement situation, outside of
the psychological societal issues. There's also an argument to be
(11:11):
made about the economic conditions that drive this kind of behavior.
And so I think improving that an empowering woman economically speaking,
would without a doubt maker dents in the scopes that
we've see.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Definitely, and in terms of looking to the future, as
the spotlight sort of moves away from the G twenty
and South Africa. What will you be looking for to
indicate that the government is actually trying to make a difference.
Will we be able to see real implementations of change
in the near future do you think so?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I think the first thing would be you would want
to have a situation where you have consultation between governments
and human rights groups, the Department of Social Development, them
coming together to formulate what the terms of reference for
the state of disaster actually look like. So, in practical terms,
what can we untly? Is it money that needs to
be unleashed, Does it need to be diverse it from
different budgets from different departments. What will that money actually
(12:06):
be used for? Is it something that we need beyond money?
Is it an issue around law enforcement and strengthening the
capabilities of that fund? Do you need to train police
officers differently? Do you need to train prosecutors in a
different way so that they're able to actually get convictions
when it comes to sexual crimes or anything else in
the realm of gender based violence? And so I think
it's a starting point to have this declaration, But it's
(12:28):
more in terms of the nuances in terms of references,
the practicalities of what it actually looks like before we
can actually make a judgment and whether or not it's
going to be successful and move beyond the myriad of
kind of talk shops and consultations that we've seen previously
in the past that have not actually amounted to anything.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And you can read all our coverage from the G
twenty across Blomberg platforms now, including President Trump's threat to
exclude South Africa from the next G twenty summit in Miami.
We'll put a link to that in our show notes.
Here's some other stories we've been following across the region
this week. Ivory Coast economic growth is poised to accelerate
(13:07):
in the next five years as the country season increase
in oil and gas activity. That's according to Planning and
Development Minister Cabiniale, who was speaking to Bloomberg. And Zambia's
inflation slowed to its lowest level in more than two
years as food price growth slowed. You can follow these
stories across Bloomberg, including the Next African Newsletter. We'll put
(13:30):
a link in our show notes. This program was produced
by Adrian Bradley. Don't forget to follow and review this
show wherever you usually get your podcasts. I'm t wa Adebayo.
Thank you for listening.
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