July 1, 2025 • 45 mins
Hey Lifers!
Britt is officially a wife!!
We all got married; signed, sealed, delivered! Delilah was included and the v̶e̶r̶y̶ c̶a̶s̶u̶a̶l̶ day almost went off without a hitch but in true Britt fashion, something happened that left us in stitches and Laura… without control of her pelvic floor.
Matt has pretty drastically underestimated how soon the new baby will be here! Jess Bezos and Lauren Sanchez got married but we’re not talking about it because everyone else is EXCEPT for the wedding invitation.
Over the weekend, Fast & Furious star Vin Diesel has said that he is planning to bring Paul Walker’s character back in the final installment of the franchise, using digital technology. Paul Walker, who played Brian O’Conner in the Fast & Furious franchise, died in a car crash in 2013 while the seventh film was still in production.
We have big questions about whether this is being done to honour Paul Walker’s legacy or if it blurs the lines of posthumous consent and is only being done to make a bunch of money.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded on cameragle Land. Hi guys, and
welcome back to another episode of Life Fun Cut. I'm
Brittany and I'm Laura. Let's get down to business, Laura,
I'll get down. Let's get down to beers. How big
(00:21):
is that baby? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Sorry, no baby? Updates can wait. There's much more important
things for us to tick off. I was hoping you'd
say that.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I want to remind everyone of the headline. First.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Let me let me pull it up. Hold on one second.
I should have gotten prepared, but I mean I'm not.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Two hours here we are.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'd like to just read out the headline that was
published a couple of weeks ago. I know we touched
on it, but then we have an update on this.
Brittany Hockley reveals her wedding was fake and the shocking
moment her husband was denied entry into Australia. We have
some good news.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Firstly, hang on, hang on, what's worse in that headline
that my wedding was fake or that my husband was
denied in because it makes it sound like something happened
or he got arrested.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
The reason why I'm reading this out is because we
have an update. A very very important life update to
share with you.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's legal. My wedding's not fake. I had a real wedding.
We signed the papers, and it is all legit. Baby,
Laura says, we collectively like not that we all got married,
but Laura and Keisha were the witness. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So I was like, we literally signed the papers, Keisha
and I, we are the ones who made it legal
for you.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Otherwise it would still be a fake wedding. It just
sounded like we all got married. Like Laura's like, we
signed the papers. We did have our legal wedding. And
I have been getting a lot of questions when I'm
going to get married. I'm married, I'm officially married. Write
that headline. No one's going to write that.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I want everyone to know that I really did put
a good, strong case forward for live streaming it, and
I was rejected.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
No, I almost was going to. I was almost going
to because it was the funniest wedding, Like even though
it was the real one, it was almost not real.
It was almost like the weddings were so the big
barley wedding that wasn't real. That felt for it felt
more real. And then this little intimate, legal wedding felt
like the joke. And I say that because maybe there
(02:12):
was like less pressure on it because we'd already done it.
And the big festivity is we had this beautiful, very intimate,
like I'm talking ten people. Basically all these work people
and my closest friends, my family weren't there. Like it
was a really we planned it within five days. I
don't know how he pulled that off. We planned it
with him five days. We got it done and it
was so special but so fucking funny, like from the
(02:35):
second we stepped onto that boat, because it was on
a boat, we did not stop laughing.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Sorry, days before this, I think it was less than
a week beforehand. Britt turns to me and she's like, Okay,
so we're thinking next Wednesday, and.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's just gonna be really small. I think I'm just
gonna do my own hair and makeup.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And I laughed and I was like, Brittany Huckley, I know, please,
you don't even know yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So I was doing my own hair and makeup. I
honestly was. And then one of my really good friend Kim,
who you guys have seen across the years, she's also
like styles me. She's a stylist. I sent her what
I was wearing. She's like, who's doing your hair makeup?
I said me, I'm doing it. She went absolutely not,
absolutely not. So she made me get it done. She
made me I would be happy to have had this
wedding day with my own hairmakeup.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Kim's an old friend who also obviously she's a stylist,
but we met her from back in the Batch days,
like she was the stylist on Batch. Yeah, you guys
connected and became really good friends after that, and yeah,
she's always styled you.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, you and her of like my longest best relationships
from the Bachelotte, like the stylist and someone on a
different season.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Weird, No, but I think it's one of those things
where obviously the Barley wedding was incredible and beautiful, and
like we've spoken about it, it was all the things
that you wanted for a wedding.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It was my dream wedding. She wasn't really, it was
everything I wanted was legitimate. It's like a set.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I don't want to say it was high pressure, because
in no way was it like stressful or anything, but
it was like the stakes were higher. There was just
more organization. It was like a big wedding the other day.
There was no schedule. It was very relaxed. Ten people
on a boat. You guys hadn't written vows. It was
all kind of off the cuff, and it felt really
intimate and it felt really really special.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, I stressed Ben out. He wasn't stressed at all.
Then when we arrived the celebrant is Her name is
Kaya and she's one of Laura's best friends. She also
married Laura. I've known her for years as well, so
that was really nice. But just as we got on,
she's like, so you guys got thousand stuff, like we're
still doing a wedding. And I looked at Ben and
I was like, shit, let's just improv, Like, let's add lib.
I've been to acting school. I can pretend like I
(04:26):
love Ben. I can act it well. I'm really I mean,
I talk for a living, so I don't need to prepare.
But Ben was like dropping nuggets. He's like, I haven't
prepared anything. And I said, it's okay, just talk to me,
just say whatever comes to mind. It doesn't matter. We've
done the wedding, you've written the vours. Anyway, I think
it made it so much better because we just looked
at each other and said what we felt in that moment.
(04:48):
Nothing was pre planned, nothing was prepared, and I think
it was more emotional and we probably felt more and
cried more in that moment because of exactly what you
just said, Laura. It's like we weren't overthinking anything. There
wasn't pressure, there weren't a hundred people watching, and you know,
there weren't all these cameras, and it just felt more
I don't want to say real, but it felt more
(05:09):
in a way, and I don't want this taken out
of context. It felt like we were more present.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, it was also I mean, we can talk about
how it was such a sentimental day, which it was
was very beautiful, it was also it was also genuinely
I don't think I've ever laughed so fucking hard in
my entire life, because as much as everything went off perfect,
seemingly beautiful, there was one thing that happened that was
not to plan.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well. Firstly, I want to say, one of my favorite
parts besides Marion Brn, Delilah got to be there. Delilah
was my bestie. You all know that, and I was
really upset about getting married in Bali and not having
her there, like it was actually a big decision. Well,
I got married on a boat that's called Charisma two
and it's actually the boat of a lifer. So her
name is Rachel, but she's got she's got a boat business.
(05:52):
She's got a boat business. And she reached out and
she said, I think I have some availability. Let me
know the exact days and times, and we worked it
and she was amazing, like she was so good. She
just got everything done within a couple of days time,
and she was so relaxed, and she allowed Delilah to
come on because I said, look, I don't know if
you allowed dogs, but I can only get married if
my dog can come. And she was like, yep, we'll
(06:14):
work it out. Anyway, Delilah had this like little veil
that Keisha bought that you guys know, yeah with from
TIMI eight dollars. It wasn't from Timu. I don't want
people being it's not much better, but it was from Amazon.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And my job for the day was just to kind
of like, man, Delilah, you know, get her onto the
boat and look after her because you were doing other things.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
She actually ended up just looking after herself.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, when we got onto the boat, she looked at me.
You know when dogs go on to escalators and they
look at you like brauh.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Do you know that the Flaws movie? Yeah, And so
I had to dress another dress from Stephen Khalil. Yes,
I did it, and before you ask, it is dressed
number four. I know that it was super low key.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Most when they have multiple weddings sits because they're marrying
different people. But it's just you're just having the same
wedding over and over, keep marrying the same guy.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
So I had a beautiful dress that was more simple
and understated in comparison, Like my dress for the wedding
was very big. If you haven't seen it, we did
make a four met a wild yeah, Kishano's because she
had to cart it across the country. So we're at
the end of the aisle. We're about to walk down.
Now the aisle is four meters long. It's so small,
so it's very intimate. There's ten people. I'm at the
(07:20):
end with Delilah. She's walking down the aisle with me,
and I have my dress, I have my veil Ben's
at the end. The music starts playing the wedding song
that I created for Ben with Sam Fisher, and I
just start crying because it took me back to the
wedding and I just felt so emotional. Ben was crying.
It was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I really want to set the scene because you weren't
just crying. You squatted down, so you were squatting crying.
Because at the end of the aisle, I.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Was squat crying. Yeah, you were squat crying with Delilah.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
We've all been there, but usually it's on like a
Saturday night, four am.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Because I cannot explain that the second the song started playing,
it was like a tidal wave of emotions. It made
me like drop to the ground, crying, crying, laugh, squat crying, cuddling, Delightah.
It was a whole thing. What I haven't said yet
is it had to have been like that morning. Rachel,
(08:09):
the boat owner, messaged me and she said, Hey, is
there another day you want to do this? Do you
want to move it to tomorrow or the next day
because this really weird wind storm has come through, like
not a storm, it was sunny. She's like, just a
wind storm. You want to reconsider. We wouldn't normally go
out and I said, there's not another day, I said,
the celebrants here, people have taken time off work. Ben
(08:30):
and I are away like it's today, and She's like, okay, well,
I just wanted to let you know, appreciate that. Anyway,
that's somewhere on the boat.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It is so windy, about to walk down, and then
this gust of wind comes out of nowhere, rips my
veil off my head as like we're in the middle
of the ceremony, and just like flies it away.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
But it doesn't go all the way away. It sort
of just goes like a meter or two away. So
I start running to catch it, and everyone's sort of laughing.
You guys are laughing, but no one's panic stations yet
except when you helping. She was helping. I'm in my
heels and my dress running around this boat. But it
was like a comedy show. Every time I would reach
the veil like a millimeter away, the wind would take
(09:10):
it away a little bit further. Anyway, everyone's running around
the boat now. It kept getting caught around poles, and
just as we go to get it, it would rip away.
It flies off the boat fifty meters away as we're
all watching it and just lands in the ocean, beautifully,
beautifully laid out in Oceandney Harbor, Sydney Harbor. In the
middle of my ceremony, I was like, what the actual fuck?
This could have been more Brittany Laura. I've never seen
(09:33):
anything like it. Laura's on the ground literally in a
pull a wik I literally not a little leakage, just
like you just went to the toilet.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I wish I could say it was embarrassed. I wasn't
even embarrassed. I could not stop laughing.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And then I.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Started coughing because I was laughing so hard that every
time I coughed, I pissed my pets.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I literally had we running down my legs. It was humiliate.
Ben had to help me up off the floor this
video foot to the bar and I was like a
fucking cart like I have, that's nothing less. Ben pulled
Laura up off the ground because this is a six
months pregnant woman. Wean on the ground. Ben pulls her
up to help her seize the pile away on the ground,
just puts it back down. Stay down there while the
(10:21):
camera's for me.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Guys, it's not I know. We joke about my pelvic
floor far out. I really hope it comes back after
number three, but it is gone. If I cough too hard,
if I have like an unprepared sneeze, anything, any sort
of body function that is a surprise to my abdomen,
I pi my pants like it's not okay, I cannot.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I've just I have the funniest video I'm gonna put
on Instart. I just never experienced anything like that. No,
we had to everyone's like, where's Laura? And I was like,
she wet herself. Give her a minute change. I'm really
sorry to make it about me again. Standard once it
was diarrhea, and now you've wet yourself, as why is
it always bodily funk? The something wrong with me? So
(11:03):
then we walked back and I was like, well, the
show must go on. One of the crew members is
out in a dinghy trying to fetch it. So we
go back to the ceremony and I was like, what
am I going to do? Ke She's like, I have
an idea, So she takes the five dollar mini veil
off Delilah's twelve. Sorry, well I shouldn't. I shouldn't short
change you.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I mean it's under financial your sales I'm surprised it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Five It should have been two dolls. She takes it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Also was so much shorter than the pitch made it
look like it looked like it would be maybe half
a meter. And yes, I could have looked at the dimensions,
but who has time for that. I ordered it with
like the most expressed post you can get. So it
came the next morning, just so that I knew, and
I was prepared for Delilah to have her accessories for
the wedding, but it.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Was how serious Keisha was. She's like, wait Bridge, I've
got it, don't worry, and I've got a solution. So
did she bring me a backup veil? Is she like
the best? Anyway? She goes and gets this TEAMU veil
that literally it does like spikes out of my head,
that is a dog veil, puts it in my hair,
and she's like, perfect, I cannot walk down, I cannot
(12:14):
get married. The show must go on. I did get
married without my veil, which isn't the end of the world.
Like I look back now, I can't stop smiling. I
look back and I just think it was the best,
one of the best days of my life, even though
I just did have a very big, expensive wedding, this
little one that I didn't plan was amazing. What does
(12:34):
it mean now with Ben?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So when does Ben go back home to Italy?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And then when is he back? Yeah? Actually he just
messaged me now in this record, I'm glad that you're
fully focused on Well. No, just before we started, like
as we're about to start, to get a message from him,
and it made me want to cry because he said,
booking my flights on Saturday, so in like four days,
so this Saturday is going home. It's been so nice
to have him. It's just not so normal. I know,
(13:00):
I know, he just because this is.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
The worst time you guys have like glad and married, right, Yeah,
this will be two weddings and six weeks and three
mini moons.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So it's it's been like the most wholesome times. It's
been the most And I understand how that sounds. It's
been two weddings, four dresses, and three mini moons. Yeah,
I get it. Well, I mean go out like you're
casual and Loki. Yeah, go off, queen, go off. Oh
and I will, guys, I will post a picture as well,
because we did finally get our wedding cake. You guys
(13:31):
know the pizza debarcle that looks like four pizzas stacked
on top of each other. I had a beautiful local
Petistri eat and Petistri that was like, we are going
to make you the cake that you never had. I
promise it won't be a pizza, and they sent like
the most beautiful cake. So I feel like we got
all of our little moments, you know, but we got
the cake. We lost the veil. You can't have it all.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, hopefully now there's at least one headline that validates
that you are married, and that's legitimate.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
The last thing we didn't say is because we did
a whole wedding again. So we took off our wedding rings,
like the ones that Laura made. We didn't get extra rings. No, no, no,
they're just the same rings, the same ring. Good. But
these are like you guys have seen them, the beautiful
like big diamond rings and that Tony May made Tony
May Tip. Yep, no discount, there's no discount on those.
I'm too expensive. They're really expensive.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Discount but the first time shoppers, you can use Life
on Cut twenty for twenty percent.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Of yeah, we have a coat. Hang on, you're making
money off my web Sorry. Yeahs in the Facebook group
all the time. So here is I'm joking. Soksha's like,
I've got a cute idea. I'm going to like send
them down the aisle on Delilah and Delilah can be
the ring girl. And so in my head, I was like, cute,
she's gonna have like a little ring bag. It's going
to be a whole thing. Now we're on a boat.
So she sends Delilah down and there's like the scabbiest
(14:43):
scrunchy like hair elistic that she's pulled out of her
hair on the day it was your hair. She's you
say it's scabby. I want to say that. I was like,
I don't have a hair tie. This is a problem.
And I looked at you and I was like, where's
that scrunchy you had on your wrist? So it's a
you little hair tired that she's like tied knots in.
It's like, this is a dodguice thing you've ever seen,
(15:04):
tied knots around, all the rings tied and not to
Delia's collar. And Delilah's just running around the boat with
these diamond rings attached to a scrunchy. I was like,
this is dang.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I have something to admit. I'm actually the one that
tied it to the collar. So oh, I don't feel
bad that if I.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Did a little double loop secured them to the collar.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
She went, I was a girl scout, Florisa, how I
did it? And she freaked out, going, that is not
secure enough.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
They're not ensued yet.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I went to gumnuts and you know what they say,
if you can't tie knots, tie lots there you go.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
That's what took me. We're at the end of the
isle and everyone's watching. We couldn't get them off. I
was like, anyway, I'm married. Anyway, I can't tie not
tie lords. If you can't tie that, I feel like
if you can't tie not, don't, well sometimes you might
really need to.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So like, you know, if it's a life or death situation,
if you don't how to tie, good not just tilots
of them anyway, We're focused on that for too long.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Sorry, that's my fault. Okay. And so what's the size
of your baby? Can it stand up in the womb? Guys?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I'm really sorry, I know we're all laughing about this
last episode. I told the same story twice. I haven't
lived it down yet. It's been brought up many times
since I'm not gonna tell the same story.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
The kid's still breach.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Okay, it's still breachka, it's still kicking me in the cervax.
But I kind of forget how far along I am. Right,
It's like I forget this pregnancy. I think, like third pregnancies,
it goes quicker. You're obviously busy with other the two kids.
You're also not a stress, so you're not like checking
the pregnancy app and you're not looking at like milestones
and like, oh my gosh, my baby's just grown fingernails
(16:32):
like old news.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
It's got eyelashes.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I have not checked a single milestone for this kid,
except for the stuff that you really have to go
and get done, like your scans.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Not so stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Anyway, you even forgot that. I did forget a scan,
but I made up for it. Laura booked the results.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
She booked the appointment to go to a doctor to
get the results of a scan she didn't get. Surely
that's something that they like. Pregnancy brain isn't known to
be a thing. Surely they text you to tell you no.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Apparently it's a third pregnancy thing. So he was like,
have you booked in to have the baby at the hospital,
because you have to actually make an appointment, right, so
it's not like you can show up at public hospel
and have a baby if something goes wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But like, it doesn't work like that. If you want
a bed, you turn up in labor and they're not
like no, but don't schedule. You'll have to go to
the car park. My mate, there's been some horror stories.
Sure it's happened.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So my homs was like, hey, have you booked in
to have the baby at the hospital? And he said
the only women I've ever known to forget to make
their hospital bookings are women having their number three baby.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Because they just interest.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's like you know that you'll get things done, but
you kind of just forget and then do it on
your own timeline. Anyway, I was talking about the other
day and Matt looks at me. He goes, fuck, I
can't believe that we're gonna have a kid in like
eighteen weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And I was like, that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Sounds really far. I don't think it's that far, and
I looked at my calendar. We're having a kid in
twelve weeks. It's twelve weeks away that this baby will
be out of me in the real world.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well, what he meant, we're having a baby. The three
of us we got married last week. We all got
also having a baby.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, so in case you were curious, the baby is
currently a like cabbage or a lettuce. That's the size
of it. And yeah, we're going great, twelve more weeks.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I feel like collectively we aren't ready.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No. Same the peloton and the pilates machine that's in
the baby's.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Room screams not ready with the screen that I'm actually
not prepared. I don't have a single thing.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So I have not got the cot, I don't have
the like the side carrier where you put your baby in.
I don't have like an Actually we got rid of
everything worrying.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I feel like you have twelve weeks is twelve weeks through?
You have time, like you just need to do it.
But did get Delilah's Veil express ship. I'm sure you
can get Bezos to the rescue. Yeah, because he needs
the business. Speaking of Jeff Bezos, we did want to
speak about the wedding until we realize that every single
person in the entire universe and every media publication has spoken.
(18:50):
Now podcast has done it, We're like, let's not bore
you guys. So I feel like it's I feel like
it's been done. But I do want to say, for
fifty two million dollars, I was apprized at what they
did for fifty two million dollars. That's what I want
to say. It doesn't scream fifty two million dollar wedding
to me. They had to pay for all the jets, yeah,
and the security.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And kick everyone else who was meant to be inventics
who had already booked in into other hotels.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And the environmental impact fossil fuels and their offset and
carbon emissions. The only thing I also want to add is,
if you haven't googled what the invitation.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Looks like, do yourself a favor.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's do yourself a favor and just google Jeff Bezos
wedding invitation. It's real because it screams to me that
someone has the free version of Canvas and they.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Just got some click out and put it together. It
screams like I would have done it. Do you think
it could have been ingests, though there's apparently a bit
of a trend going around of that kind of a thing,
potentially the fifty two meal. They've got money for people,
So I think it was intentional. Do you know what. Look,
we're going to save you the Google.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
We're going to post it ourselves to socials and we're
gonna move right along.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
That's what we're going to do. So something that I
wanted to talk about that just came to light late
last night and this morning. Hot off the press so,
hot off the pressing. Yeah, and something and someone everyone
knows about Vin Diesel. So over the weekend Vin Diesel,
who is the creator and producer of the whole Fast
and Furious franchise which we all know this ten of them.
(20:16):
They've been absolute blockbustering.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I thought that there was a million of them. Honestly,
it's Fast and the Furious as the gift that can.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Well, he made a pretty big statement. He has said
that the final installment, which will be number eleven or
some people say it's like ten point five. So over
the weekend at an automotive car fest that is run
by Paul Walker's brother Cody. Now that sounds convoluted, but
bear with me. Vin Diesel was at the car Fest
(20:42):
and made this huge announcement about the final installment of
the franchise. He has said that they plan on using
CGI and AI to bring Paul Walker back to life
and put him in the final film of Fast and Furious.
For those of you that don't remember, Paul Walker passed
away halfway through filming number seven of the film, so
(21:03):
then film the first half. He had a horrific car
accident where he passed away, and they finished the film
by using some of his brothers to stand in some
CGI to overlay his face, some old archive footage of
him to finish number seven, and everybody sort of thought
that that was done in dusted fast forward. A few
more films were at the final installment, and he has
(21:24):
said that he will only do number eleven on three conditions. One,
it has to be filmed back in LA. Two, it
has to go back to that core of being like
really car related, really car driven, because it sort of
skewed away from that. And three he would only do
it if Paul Walker could be in the film. Have
listened to twenty said the.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Studio said to me, then can we please have the
finale of Fast and furists April twenty twenty seven. I
said on three conditions reuniting Dom and Brian O'Connor.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So this has really raised a question around the moral
decision making of using AI to bring someone back from
the dead. And now the reason why this is slightly different.
I know you touched on this, brit in terms of
Paul Walker being in Fast and Furious in film seven,
Furious seven is what it's called. They've already used CGI
of him in the past, but that was in order
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to complete a movie in which he had already started
filming and was really quite a long way through the process.
So there's only a small portion of the end of
that film. If you guys remember where he is, either
CGI or there's body doubles where it's his brothers, like
filmed from behind. This feels really different. I mean, he
died in twenty thirteen. We're now twenty twenty five. This
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movie isn't going to come out until twenty twenty seven,
so we are so far down the track and it
is going to be a completely new storyline. That's the
final chapter or the final movie of this series and sequence,
and it means that all of the footage that's going
to be used is going to be completely created through
AI and through the current advancements that exist with AI technology.
(23:11):
I think it's really important for us to touch on
the monetary gains of this series. So the Fast and
Furious franchise as a total has generated over seven billion
dollars at the global box office, which makes it one
of the most successful film franchises of all time. Now,
as we've established, there are ten of these films, with
the part two of the last episode coming out in
(23:33):
twenty twenty seven. But just to give you an understanding
of how much money they have made individually, the most
successful film that has been released was Furious seven, which
accumulated one point five billion dollars. That is the film
that Paul Walker passed away in. The reason why it
was so successful is because, by large, most people wanted
to see how that movie played out, and it was
(23:55):
such a huge momentous time in pop culture, and I
think it felt across the world. It was kind of
akin to like when he Pledger died. Yeah, and he
was only forty at the time, so everyone wanted to see, like,
how did that play out? Paul Walker's death had a
very significant impact in the exposure and also the visibility
of these films. I'm not saying that bringing him back
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is in any way purely motivated by money, because it
does seem as though Paul Walker's family and Vin Diesel,
who by all accounts is one of poor Walker's best friends,
truly cares about the legacy of Paul Walker and cares
about the legacy of the Fast and Furious franchise. But
we can't deny that there's a monetary aspect that's connected
to this.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, I think there's obviously monetary gain, but I personally
don't think that it is money driven. And I say
that because it does give me a little bit of
the ick. I've been trying to work out how I
feel about it, and I don't think I like the
fact that somebody doesn't have a say over their image.
Having said that, we don't know that he didn't sign
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on to an entire franchise. We don't know that there
weren't clauses in his contract to say that you can
use his image to feel in franchise. We don't know.
What we do know is that Vin Diesel and Paul
Walker were best friends when Paul Walker died. His daughter,
Meadow was only fifteen years old, and Vin Diesel became
her godfather and he has stayed so close to her
(25:14):
the entire time, like he stepped in as a bit
of a father figure. He went from godfather to acting
like a father and he really looked after her because
she was so young. We know that the family has
approved it, which I think says a lot. I don't
believe Vin Diesel because he's a creator and a producer.
I don't think that he would put Paul Walk in
a film if his family said no. So I guess
the question for us and the audience is because there
(25:37):
has been a lot of pushback. A lot of people
are saying it's disgusting and leave it where it was,
you know, like that people believe that they shouldn't have
even finished the series after it, that it should have
finished at seven. But then there's a part of me
that thinks, well, who are we to say that when
the closest people in Paul's life have said that they
want it to happen and that it's okay.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I know, But also then that brings into question like
who owns someone's image? Like, hey, hear it out if
I pass away tomorrow and I dropped.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Out podcast is continuing with your face on Kisha?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Does Does that mean that Matt, for the rest of
my existence, like for the rest of his life, has
the right to say, Yeah, you can use Laura's image
and put words into her mouth, and you can use
her to continue a business because at the end of
the day, Fast and Furious as much as yes, it's
a legacy, and I understand that there's more of a
legacy piece in this.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
It is a business.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, And so I wonder like, is it necessary and
is it as a viewer, is it something that we
actually really want to see? Do we want to see
AI technology being used to bring people back from the dead.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I think no. Usually no, I don't think you can
just start a new film and put someone that's passed
away in it. But I understand why in this sense,
and I do have some interesting information about who owns
the image, So the ownership not Matt, so me. The
ownership of Fortwalker's image, particularly the CGI used to recreate
him in the Fast and furioust films, is complex, involving
(27:02):
both copyright and rights to publicity. Generally, the copyright for
the visual image and any related software belongs to the author,
so in this case the CGI creators, they own it. However,
apparently the rights to the publicity which control the commercial
use of a person's likeness, can be held by Walker's estate,
meaning the estate controls how his image is used, even
(27:24):
if it's digitally recreated. His estate is owned by his
daughter Meadow. So if this you know, we haven't spoken
to a lawyer about this, which is just our own
research on the internet. But if that is true, then
essentially the estate is owned by his daughter Meadow, and
Meto has approved for his likeness to be used, so
legally obviously it's fine. It just comes down to that
(27:46):
moral conundrum of are we happy? Is this setting a
precedence for us to bring back people from the dead
and put them in future films? Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I mean, for me, I think it's a bit of
an ethical mindfield because the advancements have been so quick, right,
We've made leaps and bounds from what we able to
do two years ago to what we are able to
do now. It is so convincing. We've all seen AI
where it's taken us a second to realize whether it's
real or it's not real. And I think that for
that reason, a lot of the legislation around AI hasn't
(28:13):
actually caught up, because this is often what happens in
the world of technology. Technology moves so fast and legislation
moves so slow, and so the rules and regulations aren't
there and don't catch up in time. I can't say
that I have like a solid feeling about whether I
think it's like ethically wrong or ethically great. But I
think it really opens up a can of worms around
(28:33):
who owns someone's image and what happens to your image
once you pass away? Because I understand that even in
what you're saying, brit that it belongs to the estate,
and it also belongs to the AI creators, but what
belongs to that person who died and they don't get
a say in it?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And I dare say that even if there were.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Things that were signed in the contract, this version of
AI didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
When Paul Walker was alive. He didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Complete like and I'm talking like are such a significantly
real version of him could be created, and that an
entire movie could be made with him never speaking a
single word of what was said in that movie. It's
pretty fucking mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I think the biggest question I have about this actually
doesn't relate to, like, you know, whether they've given consent
for it to happen, because I think that that's quite ambiguous,
and I think it's all a bit murky. I think
what I actually have a bit more of a problem
with is the fact that they're doing this under the
guise of, oh, we're trying to create a legacy for him,
we're trying to honor him, and you know, this is
what the fans want, and this is what the story
(29:35):
was made around, and he was, you know, the first protagonist,
and blah, blah, blah. I just don't believe that because
the movie that he passed away in the seventh that
made one point five billion, but the most recent one
only made seven hundred and fourteen million. So I just
don't think that we can actually separate the fact that
there wouldn't be a financial profit or a financial gain
(29:55):
that they're going to make by bringing him back, because
they've shown it, you know, the shown that people haven't
interest in Paul Walker being a part of these movies totally.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
It would definitely be the most watched version of a
Fast and Furious movie because everyone would want to see
just how crazy that well, firstly the AI.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Advancements are, but also everyone wants to see him again.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And as much as people say no, I don't think
I actually want to see that play out, we will
out of curiosity because it'll be the first of its time.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It'll be so widely publicized.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
The pr around it will be insane, and I think
it'll be one of those cultural moments where even if
it feels a bit weird, you'll still want to see
how it was done. From a voyeuristic perspective. If it
was a legacy piece, I don't think it needed to
have five more movies, you know. So if he died
in Furious seven, that could have been the last movie,
or there could have been one or two. And he
(30:43):
still is mentioned in almost every movie. He still has
this footage that alludes to him, or there's a car
that it could have been him in it, but you
don't quite see him. So I know that they have
always used him throughout the storyline, and I think that
that's totally acceptable because he was such an integral heart
of Fast and Furious. But there is something about this
(31:04):
whole making an entire movie talking to a dead man
who is being characterized by AI.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
That to me feels quite disturbing. I'm battling with how
I feel. I know it's I really want to see
him again. No, he was so beautiful. I say, it
gives me a little bit of the ig, and it does,
But I think it's really situational. I don't necessarily agree
with you, keisha On. I mean I do and I don't.
Of course, you can't separate the fact that it's gonna
make a shitload of money. But for who is my question? Well,
(31:32):
I truly believe that this is a big from Vin
Diesel's motives. He doesn't need money, right, He's gonna make money, yes, absolutely,
But I think would be remiss to say that he
is doing it for his legacy, because this wasn't his
idea the studio. I've said to him, please can we
finish this off? And he's the one that said, only
if I can see it out with my best friend Paul.
(31:52):
I think that it was actually quite an emotional decision
and a considered decision, not a monetary one. Yes, there'll
be benefits, but his family are benefiting, his daughter who
he left at fifteen is benefiting the studio producers. Yeah,
of course no, but they it wasn't their idea. It
was Vin's stipulation. He was like, I will only film
it if you make this happen. I think that's why
(32:14):
this situation as a whole is different for me. If
I view bringing back someone from the dead to put
in a film, I feel like that is separate to
this because this was such an elaborate franchise. It was
so big. It was based around two best friends in
real life, and I think there was so much character
development that the world grew with them. So I feel
like I look at this situation differently to if it
(32:36):
was just like, hey, we're going to make a movie
with Heath Ledger like out of the Blue. Okay, let's
say that we're all alright with this.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
They make twenty twenty seven, this final version of Fast
and Furious, we all watch Paul Walker on screen, risen
from the dead. Where's the line? Can they bring back
child actors? Can they bring back musicians? Because they're doing
you know, biography or whatever it is. You know, like,
do we need actors anymore? Do we need Okay, firstly,
do any actors that's already the question though, if there
(33:03):
is a series that a child is in whatever it is,
you know, and that kid dies, who owns that child's image?
Are we allowed to create an AI version of that
actor because we were all so invested in that child's life, Like,
I don't know where the line is, and at the
moment it feels as though that line is very murky,
And so I think that there needs to be some
parameters that are put in place around what ownership do
(33:24):
we have individually on our likeness when we're not here
anymore to protect it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
But this is where it gets even more complicated and muddier.
Even when people are alive. You can deep fake someone alive. Now,
you can deep fake someone's face. They can be doing
whatever they want. It can be on the dark webbing pawn.
They can be literally doing anything and that person doesn't
own it and they're still alive. So I guess that's
the question people are asking, is, well, I can't control
(33:50):
it right now and I'm here, is it morally that corrupt?
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Well, I mean, the reality is there's lots of legislation
around deep fakes. Deep fakes are illegal, Like if someone's
making deep fake pornography or explicit material that is illegal.
From twenty twenty four, those legislations were brought in, so
there's many protections.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Is it perfect yet? No? Yes, but this is such
a gray area.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
This is something that is legal that is okay, and
it's because it's not sexualized. But then again, maybe it is.
Maybe that ai character is playing out a sex scene.
Like who's to say where the limitations are in this
when the reality is is that it's a movie and
they're acting. Is that person making out with an actress
on screen? Like are they getting their clothes off down
(34:32):
to their bloody budget smugglers?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Like what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
And they can't give consent to it because they're dead?
Like it's it's truly a crazy world that we're living in.
And I think the surface level of it seems like
it's okay, But then the further you unpack, like the
actual nuance around well, what is that character doing in
that film? And would that person have chosen to do that?
Would that be a role that they would have said?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Would Paul Walker fifteen years later, still we go going,
you know what? Yeah, I want to keep doing fast
and furious? Would he have made other decisions for his life, like,
we don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I think that's the most interesting thing is that a
lot of the time, in situations that are similar to this,
I don't think there has been one exactly like this,
people say it's what they would have wanted. And the
truth is is that you can't apply that to something
with technology that existed in twenty thirteen, because this technology,
like you said, Laura, it didn't exist then, so you
can't really wholly fully say it's what they would have wanted.
(35:27):
You don't know this stuff didn't exist, And to be honest,
I'm a bit more confused. His brothers look pretty similar
to him, Like I don't know why his brother can't
just learn him to act and play the role, Like
I think it would have been a nicer version of
how to honor your brother is by like taking on
that character that's happened in you know, films or TV
(35:47):
shows in the past where people have passed away or
they've quit, you know, and they've just had to replace
the actor and pretend like they didn't completely change what
they looked like. But we all know that that doesn't
work from a viewer perspective, From an audience perspective.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
We don't like it, we don't enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I think that the reality is that would impact box
office success, and we probably wouldn't want to go and
see Paul Walker's brother pretend to be Paul Walker, but
we will pay to go and see an AI version
of him being recreated. The things that you might think
you want ten years later, you might not be as
interested in them anymore. I'm not saying Paul Walker wouldn't
want to still be doing Fast and Furious. The realities
(36:21):
we don't know, but you just don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I agree. You know what they will do, though, they
will ensure that his storyline is incredible. He wouldn't be
doing anything he wouldn't have done in a past film.
I think when they say things like he would have
wanted this, I think if you sort of extrapolate a
few of these pieces, he would have wanted it in
the fact of his daughter's going to benefit from it
and make money, and he knows she's secure outside of that.
(36:44):
I don't think you can say what he wanted, so
that is one hundred percent accurate. Cash Like, there's no
way to say what someone wants ten, fifteen, twenty years later.
Apart from the fact please continue to look after my daughter.
I mean, I'm sure that that is the part that
they're focusing on. But it's going to be interesting. Am
I going to see it? Yeah? Probably, Like I think
that is going to be one of the highest grossing
films of that franchise. I'd be shocked if it isn't.
(37:06):
I think that every single person that's kicking off about
it saying, you know, this is disgusting, they'll probably end
up seeing it as well. You know, there'll be some
hate watching, there'll be some curiosity watching, there'll be some
passion watching. Like people are going to love the fact
that he's coming back, and there are people that are
excited about that.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
It will be a huge success. Yeah, but it does
raise a lot of questions around the moral implications of
what it means for future AI in movies.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
For sure. Going to give you guys permission. You can
continue the podcast with my face if you are. Just
don't make me too rogue, like, just keep me like,
make me better. Actually, I've got some making up to do. Well,
it is time for accidentally unfiltered and came down to two.
I'm not gonna lie. I made an educated choice this week.
One was very pooh driven, so I thought I'd rest
(37:50):
that and we can circle back to that. So I
was chatting with my partner and his dad about the
Neoser Triathlon, which my partner was training for. I am
a terrible swimmer, so naturally I don't put My father
in law turned to me and asked if I was
good at freestyle, to which I responded, no way, I'm
strictly a doggy star girl. His eyes bolted out of
his head and he looked absolutely shocked. My partner's head
(38:11):
snapped up in my direction and the conversation went silent.
I couldn't work out what I had said wrong, but
I just assumed he was shocked. I couldn't swim a
few minutes later, my heart sank to my stomach when
I realized that the swimming stroke I was referring to
is called doggy paddle, not doggy style. I had told
my father in law my favorite sex position for context.
My father in law is very shy and conservative man,
(38:33):
and this made him feel extremely uncomfortable. It's pretty bout it.
No way, I only do doggy stock. I just love
douga star. He's like doing doggy paddle.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I can just imagine though, like if he's very sweet,
he wouldn't have said anything.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
He probably knew what she meant, turned around, high fived
his son.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
All Right, guys, it's time for suck and sweet Brittany,
what is your sweet? I know you're married, but we
also have another sweet fet Yes, obviously, get married my sweet.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
This week would have to be Can I say I
made the ultimate comeback of all comebacks on Dancing with
the Stars? I got shat on last week? He didn't
get shot on. I was at the bottom of the
leaderboard and he said I was drunken a party. He
also said I didn't use my hips. It was a disare.
So I got shot on. Fine, I don't care. We laughed,
and we laughed. We laughed. You did care, though, that's
the problem. You cared quite a bit. I actually didn't.
(39:22):
I was like, you expect it, right, you know, you
go in to expect to be shut on. You know
that that's a part of the show. You know you're
not a dancer. You expect that.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Craig, I mean, for everyone who's watched it, you know
Craig is going to say something nasty.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
He just is.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But he's also going to say something nice afterwards. But
the thing is we're so negatively gird, we only hear
the nasty thing. I think he said he actually like
enjoyed your dance and stuff as well. He said he
enjoyed my enthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
That's such a like a not that's like a backhanded
like good good try. You were happy you smiled out there.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
That's what you say to a kid as well at
school who's like doing terribly and you're like, but she's
really enthusiastic.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
And it also just means that they talked to me.
He essentially said, you were terrible, but you had good energy.
That's what you got the Participation award. Yeah. Yeah, So
I did the samba, which is really hard. It's like
a real hippie one. It's very technical, and I did
really well and I was shocked, but I got the
first nine of the season. Yeah, and I pretty bad
(40:17):
here it is. I was, yeah, I was like I
got a nine. I was like, pockya. I was really stoked,
and it was like, have a look at my instagram
if you haven't seen it. But I had this really
hard flip thing where I had to like flip in
the air and land on his shoulder as like the
finale with your ass and his face, with my ass
in his face. I hadn't been able to do it.
I can't tell you. I was almost in tears. I
(40:39):
was beside myself, begging my partner Craig to change the
final move because I could not get it, and we'd
been doing it for five weeks. I was like, I
was like, when's enough enough? Like how long until we
do a backup? He's like, we're not doing a backup.
You'll be fine. So I went into it not being
able to do it. I think i'd maybe pulled it
off badly once and we just did it. I just
I don't know if it was the adrenaline, but it
(41:00):
felt really good, like you know what it's like, laws
like you spent so long trying to do something. I
don't think I ever now the left, but it felt
really good.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, we did one about elst Waltz's. Yeah, you did
a spin. We had a few spins. No like the
big air one I remember you did. Didn't remember.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Let's ago.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Maybe I'm just fakeryone's going to let it up. I'll
just take it. You did that quadruple backflip twist. That's true,
I did that. Yeah, cart will into a backflip into
a lyft. Yeah, that's right, you're eleven, I got I
got perfect scores the Highes School with the Stars history
now that I remember, Yeah, I think you won the award.
I can't remeever, And my suck is it hasn't happened yet.
(41:37):
But Ben is leaving at the end of the week,
so I know that that I'm going to be. Yeah,
I might not be in a good way next week, guys.
I'm just telling you that it's going to be the
hardest goodbye we've ever had.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, it will be at least like this time. You
can be like, well, list, I know you come back.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
He's got it illegally obliged.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
She doesn't have to divorce someone from a different Yeah, yep, yep,
he doesn't have to divorce me.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Guys, he can just not come back. It's not a
homing pigeon anyway. What's yours? All right? My suck for
the week.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
To be fair, I don't have a suck this week,
and I know that that kind of goes against the rules.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I don't have a suck.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I feel pretty great and also I've kind of come out.
I'm in a good point of the pregnancy, Like I
feel good, I'm positive about it.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
You weed all over yourself on a boat.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
That's fine, honestly if that's the lowest of the low,
Like it's also the suck of every week. But also
like at this point of pregnancy with Lola, I was
waking up every day vomiting like every single day, and
I had chronic pain.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
I was in and out of hospital.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
So like, these are just a very different pregnancy. I
honestly sometimes forget that I'm pregnant, as does everyone else
have seem Yeah, except when I pissed my pants. But
my sweet for the week is it's work related, but
Tony May related. We just had our biggest month ever
of like business in the fifteen years that we've done
Tony May Lunch.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
So usually the biggest month.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Of the year is November obviously like Black Fridays, everyone's
Christmas shopping. But we've just done our end of financial
sales and we did the same figures in June as
what we did in November last year, so we've doubled
our business size.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
You're welcome. That must have been my wedding ring six months. Yeah,
it must have been the pushes that I did. Yeah,
but I appreciate you. No, I'm just really glad. That's awesome,
that's you.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, we've invested heaps in the company of the last
little bit, Like we've done two renovations.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
We've done a whole new website field. Nice to see
that it pays off. Yeah, it's been a really bit.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
We've hired heaps some new stuff, Like we've got a
staff dinner next week and there's like twenty three people coming,
so that's really cool. But we have been in this
real growth phase. And it's also really scary because my
sister's very conservative, so she's my business partner. She's super
conservative when it comes to spending money, and I'm like,
you've got.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
To spend money to make money and it doesn't always
go downe. Well, I think both things can be true.
I think they're good to be in business together, and
I think you have two of you, it might not
end up. Well, it's life on God.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
But the problem is, in the past, we've always been understocked,
so like we've always sold out of things way too
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and so we didn't really know what the limit was, right, Like,
we didn't know how many orders we would have got
had we had that stock on hand. And so we
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like we really kind of got ourselves prepared and it
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it's been like a very very very business rewarding month
for us. And I think, yeah, and I can now
say to Alsia and be like.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
It's all gonna be refine. So now we've got to
get pre we got to get prepped for Black Friday.
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This episode was recorded on cameragle Land. Hi guys, and
welcome back to another episode of Life Fun Cut. I'm
Brittany and I'm Laura. Let's get down to business, Laura,
I'll get down. Let's get down to beers. How big
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is that baby? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Sorry, no baby? Updates can wait. There's much more important
things for us to tick off. I was hoping you'd
say that.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I want to remind everyone of the headline. First.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Let me let me pull it up. Hold on one second.
I should have gotten prepared, but I mean I'm not.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Two hours here we are.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'd like to just read out the headline that was
published a couple of weeks ago. I know we touched
on it, but then we have an update on this.
Brittany Hockley reveals her wedding was fake and the shocking
moment her husband was denied entry into Australia. We have
some good news.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Firstly, hang on, hang on, what's worse in that headline
that my wedding was fake or that my husband was
denied in because it makes it sound like something happened
or he got arrested.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
The reason why I'm reading this out is because we
have an update. A very very important life update to
share with you.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's legal. My wedding's not fake. I had a real wedding.
We signed the papers, and it is all legit. Baby,
Laura says, we collectively like not that we all got married,
but Laura and Keisha were the witness. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So I was like, we literally signed the papers, Keisha
and I, we are the ones who made it legal
for you.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Otherwise it would still be a fake wedding. It just
sounded like we all got married. Like Laura's like, we
signed the papers. We did have our legal wedding. And
I have been getting a lot of questions when I'm
going to get married. I'm married, I'm officially married. Write
that headline. No one's going to write that.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I want everyone to know that I really did put
a good, strong case forward for live streaming it, and
I was rejected.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
No, I almost was going to. I was almost going
to because it was the funniest wedding, Like even though
it was the real one, it was almost not real.
It was almost like the weddings were so the big
barley wedding that wasn't real. That felt for it felt
more real. And then this little intimate, legal wedding felt
like the joke. And I say that because maybe there
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was like less pressure on it because we'd already done it.
And the big festivity is we had this beautiful, very intimate,
like I'm talking ten people. Basically all these work people
and my closest friends, my family weren't there. Like it
was a really we planned it within five days. I
don't know how he pulled that off. We planned it
with him five days. We got it done and it
was so special but so fucking funny, like from the
(02:35):
second we stepped onto that boat, because it was on
a boat, we did not stop laughing.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Sorry, days before this, I think it was less than
a week beforehand. Britt turns to me and she's like, Okay,
so we're thinking next Wednesday, and.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's just gonna be really small. I think I'm just
gonna do my own hair and makeup.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And I laughed and I was like, Brittany Huckley, I know, please,
you don't even know yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So I was doing my own hair and makeup. I
honestly was. And then one of my really good friend Kim,
who you guys have seen across the years, she's also
like styles me. She's a stylist. I sent her what
I was wearing. She's like, who's doing your hair makeup?
I said me, I'm doing it. She went absolutely not,
absolutely not. So she made me get it done. She
made me I would be happy to have had this
wedding day with my own hairmakeup.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Kim's an old friend who also obviously she's a stylist,
but we met her from back in the Batch days,
like she was the stylist on Batch. Yeah, you guys
connected and became really good friends after that, and yeah,
she's always styled you.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, you and her of like my longest best relationships
from the Bachelotte, like the stylist and someone on a
different season.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Weird, No, but I think it's one of those things
where obviously the Barley wedding was incredible and beautiful, and
like we've spoken about it, it was all the things
that you wanted for a wedding.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It was my dream wedding. She wasn't really, it was
everything I wanted was legitimate. It's like a set.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I don't want to say it was high pressure, because
in no way was it like stressful or anything, but
it was like the stakes were higher. There was just
more organization. It was like a big wedding the other day.
There was no schedule. It was very relaxed. Ten people
on a boat. You guys hadn't written vows. It was
all kind of off the cuff, and it felt really
intimate and it felt really really special.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, I stressed Ben out. He wasn't stressed at all.
Then when we arrived the celebrant is Her name is
Kaya and she's one of Laura's best friends. She also
married Laura. I've known her for years as well, so
that was really nice. But just as we got on,
she's like, so you guys got thousand stuff, like we're
still doing a wedding. And I looked at Ben and
I was like, shit, let's just improv, Like, let's add lib.
I've been to acting school. I can pretend like I
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love Ben. I can act it well. I'm really I mean,
I talk for a living, so I don't need to prepare.
But Ben was like dropping nuggets. He's like, I haven't
prepared anything. And I said, it's okay, just talk to me,
just say whatever comes to mind. It doesn't matter. We've
done the wedding, you've written the vours. Anyway, I think
it made it so much better because we just looked
at each other and said what we felt in that moment.
(04:48):
Nothing was pre planned, nothing was prepared, and I think
it was more emotional and we probably felt more and
cried more in that moment because of exactly what you
just said, Laura. It's like we weren't overthinking anything. There
wasn't pressure, there weren't a hundred people watching, and you know,
there weren't all these cameras, and it just felt more
I don't want to say real, but it felt more
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in a way, and I don't want this taken out
of context. It felt like we were more present.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, it was also I mean, we can talk about
how it was such a sentimental day, which it was
was very beautiful, it was also it was also genuinely
I don't think I've ever laughed so fucking hard in
my entire life, because as much as everything went off perfect,
seemingly beautiful, there was one thing that happened that was
not to plan.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well. Firstly, I want to say, one of my favorite
parts besides Marion Brn, Delilah got to be there. Delilah
was my bestie. You all know that, and I was
really upset about getting married in Bali and not having
her there, like it was actually a big decision. Well,
I got married on a boat that's called Charisma two
and it's actually the boat of a lifer. So her
name is Rachel, but she's got she's got a boat business.
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She's got a boat business. And she reached out and
she said, I think I have some availability. Let me
know the exact days and times, and we worked it
and she was amazing, like she was so good. She
just got everything done within a couple of days time,
and she was so relaxed, and she allowed Delilah to
come on because I said, look, I don't know if
you allowed dogs, but I can only get married if
my dog can come. And she was like, yep, we'll
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work it out. Anyway, Delilah had this like little veil
that Keisha bought that you guys know, yeah with from
TIMI eight dollars. It wasn't from Timu. I don't want
people being it's not much better, but it was from Amazon.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And my job for the day was just to kind
of like, man, Delilah, you know, get her onto the
boat and look after her because you were doing other things.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
She actually ended up just looking after herself.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, when we got onto the boat, she looked at me.
You know when dogs go on to escalators and they
look at you like brauh.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Do you know that the Flaws movie? Yeah, And so
I had to dress another dress from Stephen Khalil. Yes,
I did it, and before you ask, it is dressed
number four. I know that it was super low key.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Most when they have multiple weddings sits because they're marrying
different people. But it's just you're just having the same
wedding over and over, keep marrying the same guy.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
So I had a beautiful dress that was more simple
and understated in comparison, Like my dress for the wedding
was very big. If you haven't seen it, we did
make a four met a wild yeah, Kishano's because she
had to cart it across the country. So we're at
the end of the aisle. We're about to walk down.
Now the aisle is four meters long. It's so small,
so it's very intimate. There's ten people. I'm at the
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end with Delilah. She's walking down the aisle with me,
and I have my dress, I have my veil Ben's
at the end. The music starts playing the wedding song
that I created for Ben with Sam Fisher, and I
just start crying because it took me back to the
wedding and I just felt so emotional. Ben was crying.
It was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I really want to set the scene because you weren't
just crying. You squatted down, so you were squatting crying.
Because at the end of the aisle, I.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Was squat crying. Yeah, you were squat crying with Delilah.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
We've all been there, but usually it's on like a
Saturday night, four am.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Because I cannot explain that the second the song started playing,
it was like a tidal wave of emotions. It made
me like drop to the ground, crying, crying, laugh, squat crying, cuddling, Delightah.
It was a whole thing. What I haven't said yet
is it had to have been like that morning. Rachel,
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the boat owner, messaged me and she said, Hey, is
there another day you want to do this? Do you
want to move it to tomorrow or the next day
because this really weird wind storm has come through, like
not a storm, it was sunny. She's like, just a
wind storm. You want to reconsider. We wouldn't normally go
out and I said, there's not another day, I said,
the celebrants here, people have taken time off work. Ben
(08:30):
and I are away like it's today, and She's like, okay, well,
I just wanted to let you know, appreciate that. Anyway,
that's somewhere on the boat.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It is so windy, about to walk down, and then
this gust of wind comes out of nowhere, rips my
veil off my head as like we're in the middle
of the ceremony, and just like flies it away.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
But it doesn't go all the way away. It sort
of just goes like a meter or two away. So
I start running to catch it, and everyone's sort of laughing.
You guys are laughing, but no one's panic stations yet
except when you helping. She was helping. I'm in my
heels and my dress running around this boat. But it
was like a comedy show. Every time I would reach
the veil like a millimeter away, the wind would take
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it away a little bit further. Anyway, everyone's running around
the boat now. It kept getting caught around poles, and
just as we go to get it, it would rip away.
It flies off the boat fifty meters away as we're
all watching it and just lands in the ocean, beautifully,
beautifully laid out in Oceandney Harbor, Sydney Harbor. In the
middle of my ceremony, I was like, what the actual fuck?
This could have been more Brittany Laura. I've never seen
(09:33):
anything like it. Laura's on the ground literally in a
pull a wik I literally not a little leakage, just
like you just went to the toilet.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I wish I could say it was embarrassed. I wasn't
even embarrassed. I could not stop laughing.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And then I.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Started coughing because I was laughing so hard that every
time I coughed, I pissed my pets.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I literally had we running down my legs. It was humiliate.
Ben had to help me up off the floor this
video foot to the bar and I was like a
fucking cart like I have, that's nothing less. Ben pulled
Laura up off the ground because this is a six
months pregnant woman. Wean on the ground. Ben pulls her
up to help her seize the pile away on the ground,
just puts it back down. Stay down there while the
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camera's for me.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Guys, it's not I know. We joke about my pelvic
floor far out. I really hope it comes back after
number three, but it is gone. If I cough too hard,
if I have like an unprepared sneeze, anything, any sort
of body function that is a surprise to my abdomen,
I pi my pants like it's not okay, I cannot.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I've just I have the funniest video I'm gonna put
on Instart. I just never experienced anything like that. No,
we had to everyone's like, where's Laura? And I was like,
she wet herself. Give her a minute change. I'm really
sorry to make it about me again. Standard once it
was diarrhea, and now you've wet yourself, as why is
it always bodily funk? The something wrong with me? So
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then we walked back and I was like, well, the
show must go on. One of the crew members is
out in a dinghy trying to fetch it. So we
go back to the ceremony and I was like, what
am I going to do? Ke She's like, I have
an idea, So she takes the five dollar mini veil
off Delilah's twelve. Sorry, well I shouldn't. I shouldn't short
change you.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I mean it's under financial your sales I'm surprised it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Five It should have been two dolls. She takes it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Also was so much shorter than the pitch made it
look like it looked like it would be maybe half
a meter. And yes, I could have looked at the dimensions,
but who has time for that. I ordered it with
like the most expressed post you can get. So it
came the next morning, just so that I knew, and
I was prepared for Delilah to have her accessories for
the wedding, but it.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Was how serious Keisha was. She's like, wait Bridge, I've
got it, don't worry, and I've got a solution. So
did she bring me a backup veil? Is she like
the best? Anyway? She goes and gets this TEAMU veil
that literally it does like spikes out of my head,
that is a dog veil, puts it in my hair,
and she's like, perfect, I cannot walk down, I cannot
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get married. The show must go on. I did get
married without my veil, which isn't the end of the world.
Like I look back now, I can't stop smiling. I
look back and I just think it was the best,
one of the best days of my life, even though
I just did have a very big, expensive wedding, this
little one that I didn't plan was amazing. What does
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it mean now with Ben?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So when does Ben go back home to Italy?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And then when is he back? Yeah? Actually he just
messaged me now in this record, I'm glad that you're
fully focused on Well. No, just before we started, like
as we're about to start, to get a message from him,
and it made me want to cry because he said,
booking my flights on Saturday, so in like four days,
so this Saturday is going home. It's been so nice
to have him. It's just not so normal. I know,
(13:00):
I know, he just because this is.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
The worst time you guys have like glad and married, right, Yeah,
this will be two weddings and six weeks and three
mini moons.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So it's it's been like the most wholesome times. It's
been the most And I understand how that sounds. It's
been two weddings, four dresses, and three mini moons. Yeah,
I get it. Well, I mean go out like you're
casual and Loki. Yeah, go off, queen, go off. Oh
and I will, guys, I will post a picture as well,
because we did finally get our wedding cake. You guys
(13:31):
know the pizza debarcle that looks like four pizzas stacked
on top of each other. I had a beautiful local
Petistri eat and Petistri that was like, we are going
to make you the cake that you never had. I
promise it won't be a pizza, and they sent like
the most beautiful cake. So I feel like we got
all of our little moments, you know, but we got
the cake. We lost the veil. You can't have it all.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, hopefully now there's at least one headline that validates
that you are married, and that's legitimate.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
The last thing we didn't say is because we did
a whole wedding again. So we took off our wedding rings,
like the ones that Laura made. We didn't get extra rings. No, no, no,
they're just the same rings, the same ring. Good. But
these are like you guys have seen them, the beautiful
like big diamond rings and that Tony May made Tony
May Tip. Yep, no discount, there's no discount on those.
I'm too expensive. They're really expensive.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Discount but the first time shoppers, you can use Life
on Cut twenty for twenty percent.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Of yeah, we have a coat. Hang on, you're making
money off my web Sorry. Yeahs in the Facebook group
all the time. So here is I'm joking. Soksha's like,
I've got a cute idea. I'm going to like send
them down the aisle on Delilah and Delilah can be
the ring girl. And so in my head, I was like, cute,
she's gonna have like a little ring bag. It's going
to be a whole thing. Now we're on a boat.
So she sends Delilah down and there's like the scabbiest
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scrunchy like hair elistic that she's pulled out of her
hair on the day it was your hair. She's you
say it's scabby. I want to say that. I was like,
I don't have a hair tie. This is a problem.
And I looked at you and I was like, where's
that scrunchy you had on your wrist? So it's a
you little hair tired that she's like tied knots in.
It's like, this is a dodguice thing you've ever seen,
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tied knots around, all the rings tied and not to
Delia's collar. And Delilah's just running around the boat with
these diamond rings attached to a scrunchy. I was like,
this is dang.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I have something to admit. I'm actually the one that
tied it to the collar. So oh, I don't feel
bad that if I.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Did a little double loop secured them to the collar.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
She went, I was a girl scout, Florisa, how I
did it? And she freaked out, going, that is not
secure enough.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
They're not ensued yet.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I went to gumnuts and you know what they say,
if you can't tie knots, tie lots there you go.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
That's what took me. We're at the end of the
isle and everyone's watching. We couldn't get them off. I
was like, anyway, I'm married. Anyway, I can't tie not
tie lords. If you can't tie that, I feel like
if you can't tie not, don't, well sometimes you might
really need to.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So like, you know, if it's a life or death situation,
if you don't how to tie, good not just tilots
of them anyway, We're focused on that for too long.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Sorry, that's my fault. Okay. And so what's the size
of your baby? Can it stand up in the womb? Guys?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I'm really sorry, I know we're all laughing about this
last episode. I told the same story twice. I haven't
lived it down yet. It's been brought up many times
since I'm not gonna tell the same story.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
The kid's still breach.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Okay, it's still breachka, it's still kicking me in the cervax.
But I kind of forget how far along I am. Right,
It's like I forget this pregnancy. I think, like third pregnancies,
it goes quicker. You're obviously busy with other the two kids.
You're also not a stress, so you're not like checking
the pregnancy app and you're not looking at like milestones
and like, oh my gosh, my baby's just grown fingernails
(16:32):
like old news.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
It's got eyelashes.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I have not checked a single milestone for this kid,
except for the stuff that you really have to go
and get done, like your scans.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Not so stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Anyway, you even forgot that. I did forget a scan,
but I made up for it. Laura booked the results.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
She booked the appointment to go to a doctor to
get the results of a scan she didn't get. Surely
that's something that they like. Pregnancy brain isn't known to
be a thing. Surely they text you to tell you no.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Apparently it's a third pregnancy thing. So he was like,
have you booked in to have the baby at the hospital,
because you have to actually make an appointment, right, so
it's not like you can show up at public hospel
and have a baby if something goes wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But like, it doesn't work like that. If you want
a bed, you turn up in labor and they're not
like no, but don't schedule. You'll have to go to
the car park. My mate, there's been some horror stories.
Sure it's happened.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So my homs was like, hey, have you booked in
to have the baby at the hospital? And he said
the only women I've ever known to forget to make
their hospital bookings are women having their number three baby.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Because they just interest.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's like you know that you'll get things done, but
you kind of just forget and then do it on
your own timeline. Anyway, I was talking about the other
day and Matt looks at me. He goes, fuck, I
can't believe that we're gonna have a kid in like
eighteen weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And I was like, that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Sounds really far. I don't think it's that far, and
I looked at my calendar. We're having a kid in
twelve weeks. It's twelve weeks away that this baby will
be out of me in the real world.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well, what he meant, we're having a baby. The three
of us we got married last week. We all got
also having a baby.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, so in case you were curious, the baby is
currently a like cabbage or a lettuce. That's the size
of it. And yeah, we're going great, twelve more weeks.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I feel like collectively we aren't ready.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No. Same the peloton and the pilates machine that's in
the baby's.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Room screams not ready with the screen that I'm actually
not prepared. I don't have a single thing.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So I have not got the cot, I don't have
the like the side carrier where you put your baby in.
I don't have like an Actually we got rid of
everything worrying.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I feel like you have twelve weeks is twelve weeks through?
You have time, like you just need to do it.
But did get Delilah's Veil express ship. I'm sure you
can get Bezos to the rescue. Yeah, because he needs
the business. Speaking of Jeff Bezos, we did want to
speak about the wedding until we realize that every single
person in the entire universe and every media publication has spoken.
(18:50):
Now podcast has done it, We're like, let's not bore
you guys. So I feel like it's I feel like
it's been done. But I do want to say, for
fifty two million dollars, I was apprized at what they
did for fifty two million dollars. That's what I want
to say. It doesn't scream fifty two million dollar wedding
to me. They had to pay for all the jets, yeah,
and the security.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And kick everyone else who was meant to be inventics
who had already booked in into other hotels.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And the environmental impact fossil fuels and their offset and
carbon emissions. The only thing I also want to add is,
if you haven't googled what the invitation.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Looks like, do yourself a favor.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's do yourself a favor and just google Jeff Bezos
wedding invitation. It's real because it screams to me that
someone has the free version of Canvas and they.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Just got some click out and put it together. It
screams like I would have done it. Do you think
it could have been ingests, though there's apparently a bit
of a trend going around of that kind of a thing,
potentially the fifty two meal. They've got money for people,
So I think it was intentional. Do you know what. Look,
we're going to save you the Google.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
We're going to post it ourselves to socials and we're
gonna move right along.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
That's what we're going to do. So something that I
wanted to talk about that just came to light late
last night and this morning. Hot off the press so,
hot off the pressing. Yeah, and something and someone everyone
knows about Vin Diesel. So over the weekend Vin Diesel,
who is the creator and producer of the whole Fast
and Furious franchise which we all know this ten of them.
(20:16):
They've been absolute blockbustering.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I thought that there was a million of them. Honestly,
it's Fast and the Furious as the gift that can.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Well, he made a pretty big statement. He has said
that the final installment, which will be number eleven or
some people say it's like ten point five. So over
the weekend at an automotive car fest that is run
by Paul Walker's brother Cody. Now that sounds convoluted, but
bear with me. Vin Diesel was at the car Fest
(20:42):
and made this huge announcement about the final installment of
the franchise. He has said that they plan on using
CGI and AI to bring Paul Walker back to life
and put him in the final film of Fast and Furious.
For those of you that don't remember, Paul Walker passed
away halfway through filming number seven of the film, so
(21:03):
then film the first half. He had a horrific car
accident where he passed away, and they finished the film
by using some of his brothers to stand in some
CGI to overlay his face, some old archive footage of
him to finish number seven, and everybody sort of thought
that that was done in dusted fast forward. A few
more films were at the final installment, and he has
(21:24):
said that he will only do number eleven on three conditions. One,
it has to be filmed back in LA. Two, it
has to go back to that core of being like
really car related, really car driven, because it sort of
skewed away from that. And three he would only do
it if Paul Walker could be in the film. Have
listened to twenty said the.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Studio said to me, then can we please have the
finale of Fast and furists April twenty twenty seven. I
said on three conditions reuniting Dom and Brian O'Connor.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So this has really raised a question around the moral
decision making of using AI to bring someone back from
the dead. And now the reason why this is slightly different.
I know you touched on this, brit in terms of
Paul Walker being in Fast and Furious in film seven,
Furious seven is what it's called. They've already used CGI
of him in the past, but that was in order
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to complete a movie in which he had already started
filming and was really quite a long way through the process.
So there's only a small portion of the end of
that film. If you guys remember where he is, either
CGI or there's body doubles where it's his brothers, like
filmed from behind. This feels really different. I mean, he
died in twenty thirteen. We're now twenty twenty five. This
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movie isn't going to come out until twenty twenty seven,
so we are so far down the track and it
is going to be a completely new storyline. That's the
final chapter or the final movie of this series and sequence,
and it means that all of the footage that's going
to be used is going to be completely created through
AI and through the current advancements that exist with AI technology.
(23:11):
I think it's really important for us to touch on
the monetary gains of this series. So the Fast and
Furious franchise as a total has generated over seven billion
dollars at the global box office, which makes it one
of the most successful film franchises of all time. Now,
as we've established, there are ten of these films, with
the part two of the last episode coming out in
(23:33):
twenty twenty seven. But just to give you an understanding
of how much money they have made individually, the most
successful film that has been released was Furious seven, which
accumulated one point five billion dollars. That is the film
that Paul Walker passed away in. The reason why it
was so successful is because, by large, most people wanted
to see how that movie played out, and it was
(23:55):
such a huge momentous time in pop culture, and I
think it felt across the world. It was kind of
akin to like when he Pledger died. Yeah, and he
was only forty at the time, so everyone wanted to see, like,
how did that play out? Paul Walker's death had a
very significant impact in the exposure and also the visibility
of these films. I'm not saying that bringing him back
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is in any way purely motivated by money, because it
does seem as though Paul Walker's family and Vin Diesel,
who by all accounts is one of poor Walker's best friends,
truly cares about the legacy of Paul Walker and cares
about the legacy of the Fast and Furious franchise. But
we can't deny that there's a monetary aspect that's connected
to this.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, I think there's obviously monetary gain, but I personally
don't think that it is money driven. And I say
that because it does give me a little bit of
the ick. I've been trying to work out how I
feel about it, and I don't think I like the
fact that somebody doesn't have a say over their image.
Having said that, we don't know that he didn't sign
(24:54):
on to an entire franchise. We don't know that there
weren't clauses in his contract to say that you can
use his image to feel in franchise. We don't know.
What we do know is that Vin Diesel and Paul
Walker were best friends when Paul Walker died. His daughter,
Meadow was only fifteen years old, and Vin Diesel became
her godfather and he has stayed so close to her
(25:14):
the entire time, like he stepped in as a bit
of a father figure. He went from godfather to acting
like a father and he really looked after her because
she was so young. We know that the family has
approved it, which I think says a lot. I don't
believe Vin Diesel because he's a creator and a producer.
I don't think that he would put Paul Walk in
a film if his family said no. So I guess
the question for us and the audience is because there
(25:37):
has been a lot of pushback. A lot of people
are saying it's disgusting and leave it where it was,
you know, like that people believe that they shouldn't have
even finished the series after it, that it should have
finished at seven. But then there's a part of me
that thinks, well, who are we to say that when
the closest people in Paul's life have said that they
want it to happen and that it's okay.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I know, But also then that brings into question like
who owns someone's image? Like, hey, hear it out if
I pass away tomorrow and I dropped.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Out podcast is continuing with your face on Kisha?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Does Does that mean that Matt, for the rest of
my existence, like for the rest of his life, has
the right to say, Yeah, you can use Laura's image
and put words into her mouth, and you can use
her to continue a business because at the end of
the day, Fast and Furious as much as yes, it's
a legacy, and I understand that there's more of a
legacy piece in this.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
It is a business.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, And so I wonder like, is it necessary and
is it as a viewer, is it something that we
actually really want to see? Do we want to see
AI technology being used to bring people back from the dead.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I think no. Usually no, I don't think you can
just start a new film and put someone that's passed
away in it. But I understand why in this sense,
and I do have some interesting information about who owns
the image, So the ownership not Matt, so me. The
ownership of Fortwalker's image, particularly the CGI used to recreate
him in the Fast and furioust films, is complex, involving
(27:02):
both copyright and rights to publicity. Generally, the copyright for
the visual image and any related software belongs to the author,
so in this case the CGI creators, they own it. However,
apparently the rights to the publicity which control the commercial
use of a person's likeness, can be held by Walker's estate,
meaning the estate controls how his image is used, even
(27:24):
if it's digitally recreated. His estate is owned by his
daughter Meadow. So if this you know, we haven't spoken
to a lawyer about this, which is just our own
research on the internet. But if that is true, then
essentially the estate is owned by his daughter Meadow, and
Meto has approved for his likeness to be used, so
legally obviously it's fine. It just comes down to that
(27:46):
moral conundrum of are we happy? Is this setting a
precedence for us to bring back people from the dead
and put them in future films? Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I mean, for me, I think it's a bit of
an ethical mindfield because the advancements have been so quick, right,
We've made leaps and bounds from what we able to
do two years ago to what we are able to
do now. It is so convincing. We've all seen AI
where it's taken us a second to realize whether it's
real or it's not real. And I think that for
that reason, a lot of the legislation around AI hasn't
(28:13):
actually caught up, because this is often what happens in
the world of technology. Technology moves so fast and legislation
moves so slow, and so the rules and regulations aren't
there and don't catch up in time. I can't say
that I have like a solid feeling about whether I
think it's like ethically wrong or ethically great. But I
think it really opens up a can of worms around
(28:33):
who owns someone's image and what happens to your image
once you pass away? Because I understand that even in
what you're saying, brit that it belongs to the estate,
and it also belongs to the AI creators, but what
belongs to that person who died and they don't get
a say in it?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And I dare say that even if there were.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Things that were signed in the contract, this version of
AI didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
When Paul Walker was alive. He didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Complete like and I'm talking like are such a significantly
real version of him could be created, and that an
entire movie could be made with him never speaking a
single word of what was said in that movie. It's
pretty fucking mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I think the biggest question I have about this actually
doesn't relate to, like, you know, whether they've given consent
for it to happen, because I think that that's quite ambiguous,
and I think it's all a bit murky. I think
what I actually have a bit more of a problem
with is the fact that they're doing this under the
guise of, oh, we're trying to create a legacy for him,
we're trying to honor him, and you know, this is
what the fans want, and this is what the story
(29:35):
was made around, and he was, you know, the first protagonist,
and blah, blah, blah. I just don't believe that because
the movie that he passed away in the seventh that
made one point five billion, but the most recent one
only made seven hundred and fourteen million. So I just
don't think that we can actually separate the fact that
there wouldn't be a financial profit or a financial gain
(29:55):
that they're going to make by bringing him back, because
they've shown it, you know, the shown that people haven't
interest in Paul Walker being a part of these movies totally.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
It would definitely be the most watched version of a
Fast and Furious movie because everyone would want to see
just how crazy that well, firstly the AI.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Advancements are, but also everyone wants to see him again.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And as much as people say no, I don't think
I actually want to see that play out, we will
out of curiosity because it'll be the first of its time.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It'll be so widely publicized.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
The pr around it will be insane, and I think
it'll be one of those cultural moments where even if
it feels a bit weird, you'll still want to see
how it was done. From a voyeuristic perspective. If it
was a legacy piece, I don't think it needed to
have five more movies, you know. So if he died
in Furious seven, that could have been the last movie,
or there could have been one or two. And he
(30:43):
still is mentioned in almost every movie. He still has
this footage that alludes to him, or there's a car
that it could have been him in it, but you
don't quite see him. So I know that they have
always used him throughout the storyline, and I think that
that's totally acceptable because he was such an integral heart
of Fast and Furious. But there is something about this
(31:04):
whole making an entire movie talking to a dead man
who is being characterized by AI.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
That to me feels quite disturbing. I'm battling with how
I feel. I know it's I really want to see
him again. No, he was so beautiful. I say, it
gives me a little bit of the ig, and it does,
But I think it's really situational. I don't necessarily agree
with you, keisha On. I mean I do and I don't.
Of course, you can't separate the fact that it's gonna
make a shitload of money. But for who is my question? Well,
(31:32):
I truly believe that this is a big from Vin
Diesel's motives. He doesn't need money, right, He's gonna make money, yes, absolutely,
But I think would be remiss to say that he
is doing it for his legacy, because this wasn't his
idea the studio. I've said to him, please can we
finish this off? And he's the one that said, only
if I can see it out with my best friend Paul.
(31:52):
I think that it was actually quite an emotional decision
and a considered decision, not a monetary one. Yes, there'll
be benefits, but his family are benefiting, his daughter who
he left at fifteen is benefiting the studio producers. Yeah,
of course no, but they it wasn't their idea. It
was Vin's stipulation. He was like, I will only film
it if you make this happen. I think that's why
(32:14):
this situation as a whole is different for me. If
I view bringing back someone from the dead to put
in a film, I feel like that is separate to
this because this was such an elaborate franchise. It was
so big. It was based around two best friends in
real life, and I think there was so much character
development that the world grew with them. So I feel
like I look at this situation differently to if it
(32:36):
was just like, hey, we're going to make a movie
with Heath Ledger like out of the Blue. Okay, let's
say that we're all alright with this.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
They make twenty twenty seven, this final version of Fast
and Furious, we all watch Paul Walker on screen, risen
from the dead. Where's the line? Can they bring back
child actors? Can they bring back musicians? Because they're doing
you know, biography or whatever it is. You know, like,
do we need actors anymore? Do we need Okay, firstly,
do any actors that's already the question though, if there
(33:03):
is a series that a child is in whatever it is,
you know, and that kid dies, who owns that child's image?
Are we allowed to create an AI version of that
actor because we were all so invested in that child's life, Like,
I don't know where the line is, and at the
moment it feels as though that line is very murky,
And so I think that there needs to be some
parameters that are put in place around what ownership do
(33:24):
we have individually on our likeness when we're not here
anymore to protect it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
But this is where it gets even more complicated and muddier.
Even when people are alive. You can deep fake someone alive. Now,
you can deep fake someone's face. They can be doing
whatever they want. It can be on the dark webbing pawn.
They can be literally doing anything and that person doesn't
own it and they're still alive. So I guess that's
the question people are asking, is, well, I can't control
(33:50):
it right now and I'm here, is it morally that corrupt?
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Well, I mean, the reality is there's lots of legislation
around deep fakes. Deep fakes are illegal, Like if someone's
making deep fake pornography or explicit material that is illegal.
From twenty twenty four, those legislations were brought in, so
there's many protections.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Is it perfect yet? No? Yes, but this is such
a gray area.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
This is something that is legal that is okay, and
it's because it's not sexualized. But then again, maybe it is.
Maybe that ai character is playing out a sex scene.
Like who's to say where the limitations are in this
when the reality is is that it's a movie and
they're acting. Is that person making out with an actress
on screen? Like are they getting their clothes off down
(34:32):
to their bloody budget smugglers?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Like what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
And they can't give consent to it because they're dead?
Like it's it's truly a crazy world that we're living in.
And I think the surface level of it seems like
it's okay, But then the further you unpack, like the
actual nuance around well, what is that character doing in
that film? And would that person have chosen to do that?
Would that be a role that they would have said?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Would Paul Walker fifteen years later, still we go going,
you know what? Yeah, I want to keep doing fast
and furious? Would he have made other decisions for his life, like,
we don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I think that's the most interesting thing is that a
lot of the time, in situations that are similar to this,
I don't think there has been one exactly like this,
people say it's what they would have wanted. And the
truth is is that you can't apply that to something
with technology that existed in twenty thirteen, because this technology,
like you said, Laura, it didn't exist then, so you
can't really wholly fully say it's what they would have wanted.
(35:27):
You don't know this stuff didn't exist, And to be honest,
I'm a bit more confused. His brothers look pretty similar
to him, Like I don't know why his brother can't
just learn him to act and play the role, Like
I think it would have been a nicer version of
how to honor your brother is by like taking on
that character that's happened in you know, films or TV
(35:47):
shows in the past where people have passed away or
they've quit, you know, and they've just had to replace
the actor and pretend like they didn't completely change what
they looked like. But we all know that that doesn't
work from a viewer perspective, From an audience perspective.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
We don't like it, we don't enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I think that the reality is that would impact box
office success, and we probably wouldn't want to go and
see Paul Walker's brother pretend to be Paul Walker, but
we will pay to go and see an AI version
of him being recreated. The things that you might think
you want ten years later, you might not be as
interested in them anymore. I'm not saying Paul Walker wouldn't
want to still be doing Fast and Furious. The realities
(36:21):
we don't know, but you just don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I agree. You know what they will do, though, they
will ensure that his storyline is incredible. He wouldn't be
doing anything he wouldn't have done in a past film.
I think when they say things like he would have
wanted this, I think if you sort of extrapolate a
few of these pieces, he would have wanted it in
the fact of his daughter's going to benefit from it
and make money, and he knows she's secure outside of that.
(36:44):
I don't think you can say what he wanted, so
that is one hundred percent accurate. Cash Like, there's no
way to say what someone wants ten, fifteen, twenty years later.
Apart from the fact please continue to look after my daughter.
I mean, I'm sure that that is the part that
they're focusing on. But it's going to be interesting. Am
I going to see it? Yeah? Probably, Like I think
that is going to be one of the highest grossing
films of that franchise. I'd be shocked if it isn't.
(37:06):
I think that every single person that's kicking off about
it saying, you know, this is disgusting, they'll probably end
up seeing it as well. You know, there'll be some
hate watching, there'll be some curiosity watching, there'll be some
passion watching. Like people are going to love the fact
that he's coming back, and there are people that are
excited about that.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
It will be a huge success. Yeah, but it does
raise a lot of questions around the moral implications of
what it means for future AI in movies.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
For sure. Going to give you guys permission. You can
continue the podcast with my face if you are. Just
don't make me too rogue, like, just keep me like,
make me better. Actually, I've got some making up to do. Well,
it is time for accidentally unfiltered and came down to two.
I'm not gonna lie. I made an educated choice this week.
One was very pooh driven, so I thought I'd rest
(37:50):
that and we can circle back to that. So I
was chatting with my partner and his dad about the
Neoser Triathlon, which my partner was training for. I am
a terrible swimmer, so naturally I don't put My father
in law turned to me and asked if I was
good at freestyle, to which I responded, no way, I'm
strictly a doggy star girl. His eyes bolted out of
his head and he looked absolutely shocked. My partner's head
(38:11):
snapped up in my direction and the conversation went silent.
I couldn't work out what I had said wrong, but
I just assumed he was shocked. I couldn't swim a
few minutes later, my heart sank to my stomach when
I realized that the swimming stroke I was referring to
is called doggy paddle, not doggy style. I had told
my father in law my favorite sex position for context.
My father in law is very shy and conservative man,
(38:33):
and this made him feel extremely uncomfortable. It's pretty bout it.
No way, I only do doggy stock. I just love
douga star. He's like doing doggy paddle.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I can just imagine though, like if he's very sweet,
he wouldn't have said anything.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
He probably knew what she meant, turned around, high fived
his son.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
All Right, guys, it's time for suck and sweet Brittany,
what is your sweet? I know you're married, but we
also have another sweet fet Yes, obviously, get married my sweet.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
This week would have to be Can I say I
made the ultimate comeback of all comebacks on Dancing with
the Stars? I got shat on last week? He didn't
get shot on. I was at the bottom of the
leaderboard and he said I was drunken a party. He
also said I didn't use my hips. It was a disare.
So I got shot on. Fine, I don't care. We laughed,
and we laughed. We laughed. You did care, though, that's
the problem. You cared quite a bit. I actually didn't.
(39:22):
I was like, you expect it, right, you know, you
go in to expect to be shut on. You know
that that's a part of the show. You know you're
not a dancer. You expect that.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Craig, I mean, for everyone who's watched it, you know
Craig is going to say something nasty.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
He just is.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But he's also going to say something nice afterwards. But
the thing is we're so negatively gird, we only hear
the nasty thing. I think he said he actually like
enjoyed your dance and stuff as well. He said he
enjoyed my enthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
That's such a like a not that's like a backhanded
like good good try. You were happy you smiled out there.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
That's what you say to a kid as well at
school who's like doing terribly and you're like, but she's
really enthusiastic.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
And it also just means that they talked to me.
He essentially said, you were terrible, but you had good energy.
That's what you got the Participation award. Yeah. Yeah, So
I did the samba, which is really hard. It's like
a real hippie one. It's very technical, and I did
really well and I was shocked, but I got the
first nine of the season. Yeah, and I pretty bad
(40:17):
here it is. I was, yeah, I was like I
got a nine. I was like, pockya. I was really stoked,
and it was like, have a look at my instagram
if you haven't seen it. But I had this really
hard flip thing where I had to like flip in
the air and land on his shoulder as like the
finale with your ass and his face, with my ass
in his face. I hadn't been able to do it.
I can't tell you. I was almost in tears. I
(40:39):
was beside myself, begging my partner Craig to change the
final move because I could not get it, and we'd
been doing it for five weeks. I was like, I
was like, when's enough enough? Like how long until we
do a backup? He's like, we're not doing a backup.
You'll be fine. So I went into it not being
able to do it. I think i'd maybe pulled it
off badly once and we just did it. I just
I don't know if it was the adrenaline, but it
(41:00):
felt really good, like you know what it's like, laws
like you spent so long trying to do something. I
don't think I ever now the left, but it felt
really good.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, we did one about elst Waltz's. Yeah, you did
a spin. We had a few spins. No like the
big air one I remember you did. Didn't remember.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Let's ago.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Maybe I'm just fakeryone's going to let it up. I'll
just take it. You did that quadruple backflip twist. That's true,
I did that. Yeah, cart will into a backflip into
a lyft. Yeah, that's right, you're eleven, I got I
got perfect scores the Highes School with the Stars history
now that I remember, Yeah, I think you won the award.
I can't remeever, And my suck is it hasn't happened yet.
(41:37):
But Ben is leaving at the end of the week,
so I know that that I'm going to be. Yeah,
I might not be in a good way next week, guys.
I'm just telling you that it's going to be the
hardest goodbye we've ever had.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, it will be at least like this time. You
can be like, well, list, I know you come back.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
He's got it illegally obliged.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
She doesn't have to divorce someone from a different Yeah, yep, yep,
he doesn't have to divorce me.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Guys, he can just not come back. It's not a
homing pigeon anyway. What's yours? All right? My suck for
the week.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
To be fair, I don't have a suck this week,
and I know that that kind of goes against the rules.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I don't have a suck.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I feel pretty great and also I've kind of come out.
I'm in a good point of the pregnancy, Like I
feel good, I'm positive about it.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
You weed all over yourself on a boat.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
That's fine, honestly if that's the lowest of the low,
Like it's also the suck of every week. But also
like at this point of pregnancy with Lola, I was
waking up every day vomiting like every single day, and
I had chronic pain.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
I was in and out of hospital.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
So like, these are just a very different pregnancy. I
honestly sometimes forget that I'm pregnant, as does everyone else
have seem Yeah, except when I pissed my pants. But
my sweet for the week is it's work related, but
Tony May related. We just had our biggest month ever
of like business in the fifteen years that we've done
Tony May Lunch.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
So usually the biggest month.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Of the year is November obviously like Black Fridays, everyone's
Christmas shopping. But we've just done our end of financial
sales and we did the same figures in June as
what we did in November last year, so we've doubled
our business size.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
You're welcome. That must have been my wedding ring six months. Yeah,
it must have been the pushes that I did. Yeah,
but I appreciate you. No, I'm just really glad. That's awesome,
that's you.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, we've invested heaps in the company of the last
little bit, Like we've done two renovations.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
We've done a whole new website field. Nice to see
that it pays off. Yeah, it's been a really bit.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
We've hired heaps some new stuff, Like we've got a
staff dinner next week and there's like twenty three people coming,
so that's really cool. But we have been in this
real growth phase. And it's also really scary because my
sister's very conservative, so she's my business partner. She's super
conservative when it comes to spending money, and I'm like,
you've got.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
To spend money to make money and it doesn't always
go downe. Well, I think both things can be true.
I think they're good to be in business together, and
I think you have two of you, it might not
end up. Well, it's life on God.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
But the problem is, in the past, we've always been understocked,
so like we've always sold out of things way too
early during sale periods and stuff, and we've just had
not a high enough stock supply to be able to service,
and so we didn't really know what the limit was, right, Like,
we didn't know how many orders we would have got
had we had that stock on hand. And so we
(44:26):
really took a punt this end of financial year and
like we really kind of got ourselves prepared and it
was a gamble and it really paid off. And so
it's been like a very very very business rewarding month
for us. And I think, yeah, and I can now
say to Alsia and be like.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
It's all gonna be refine. So now we've got to
get pre we got to get prepped for Black Friday.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
But we've been doing this like fifteen years now, and
it really was just this moment where we had like
we were so proud of ourselves.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
So it's we're proud of you. You could bring some
pieces in great my list. Ah, that is it from us. Guys.
Please keep your accidently unfiltered coming in. You can just
send them into Instagram. Just make sure you put accidentally
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(45:11):
you know we've answered your friends question. We want to
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And if you guys have any questions for us or
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Oh, don't forget to go and follow us on YouTube.
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