14 Years of TPUSA + Graham Platner Exposed (Again) + AMA 269

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (01:17):
Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is Blake. I
am flying solo today. Andrew is off in San Antonio
for the Women's Leadership Summit along with a lot of
our team, along with Erica. Of course, we have thousands
of young women going there to hear from Alibethstucky, Riley Gaines,
Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Kaylee Mcananey, many others. It's going to

(01:38):
be an incredible show and an incredible demonstration of all
the ways that the work of Turning Point is continuing forward.
Because today is a very important day. Today is the
fourteenth anniversary of Turning Point USA. Fourteen years ago on
this day, one day before the day anniversary. All note

(02:02):
Charlie started Turning Point. He ran it out of a
garage in Chicago. But of course today is a very
different anniversary. This is the first anniversary of Turning Point
without Charlie. Without Charlie, with us, Charlie built Turning Point
up from nothing into one of the most important organizations

(02:24):
in America. He would say, the most important organization. And
you know what, he was right, the most important organization
in America, a force known all around the world, a
force others wanted to learn from, a force that changed
the culture of America in the way certainly in my lifetime,
nothing else on the right was able to. And on

(02:45):
this fourteenth anniversary, our first one without Charlie, I want
to remind you of what Charlie was able to accomplish
with his organization in his life, which was far too short.
When Charlie started Turning Point Usa, I remember it. I
was in college myself when he started it instead of
going to college, which he thought was a scam. The

(03:07):
belief was that young people were just incurably left wing.
They voted for Barack Obama in absolutely overwhelming numbers. Every
cohort of college student was getting more left wing by
the year, and there was this huge sense of defeatism
about it on the right. Oh, young people are left wing,
what are you going to do? It always involved this
implicit concession that the left had better arguments than the right.

(03:32):
They were just better at winning over young people if
they had any hope at all. There was always in
this cope that would be, oh, well, young people will
leave college, they'll have to pay taxes, they'll have to
get a job. Then they'll definitely become more right wing,
and that was all they had was cope. There was
never this belief that we could go and confront the
left in its own territory, argue with them and win

(03:55):
because our arguments were better. And that happened on economics,
it happened on foreign policy, but it also happened on faith.
Young people were getting less religious every single year. The
decline was absolutely precipitous, and it was routine just hear
Christians talk about, well, in the future will be this
tiny minority. We'll have to go through this dark age

(04:16):
perhaps of persecution, and there's no way to just win
these young people back, and Charlie rejected that. That's why
he called it turning Point USA. He believed that there
could be a turning point for this country and it
could come through young people, and it would come through
confronting the problems with America at their source. He thought,
we can go on campus, we can go on social media,

(04:39):
and we can win the argument, we can outperform the left,
and the results have spoken for themselves. In the twenty
twenty four election, which Charlie was one of the chief
players in young people, they moved to the right in
an election for one of the first times in ages.
And on top of that, we can see in polls
that the decl decline and faith, the decline of religious

(05:01):
belief among young people, for the first time in memory,
it's stopped going down. Some polls show that it's going
the other direction, and I strongly believe that it was
Charlie's doing. Charlie, as a major force in history, played
a central role in all of that happening. I wouldn't
say it would be going too far to say that
Charlie won the battle. We know that's not true. But

(05:23):
Charlie showed that the battle could be won, and that's
of central importance. But last year God called Charlie home
to heaven as a martyr. Now it's the obligation of
all of us who knew Charlie, who Charlie chose to
work with him. It's our job to carry on Charlie's mission,

(05:44):
because we know the battle isn't won. We know the
battle still has to be fought and the work is continuing.
As I said, today is the opening day of the
Women's Leadership Summit in San Antonio. We have a lot
of great speakers, including Erica Kirk, but also Alibet Stucky,
Riley Gains, Sarah Huckebee Sanders, Alex Clark, Kaylee mcannaney a
lot more. They're going to speak to thousands of young

(06:06):
women about Charlie's message, which is that faith and family
are integral to the best lives that you can live.
Charlie spoke above all to young men, but he always
had a very special place in his heart for young women.
He knew that young women were being harmed a tremendous
amount by the modern lives of feminism, the modern just
and secularism and modern culture, and he wanted to use

(06:29):
his own marriage, his own family as a model that
they could look towards that a better life can be lived.
And that message was getting through as at the end
of Charlie's life, and we are going to be continuing
to carry that forward. So for the rest of the show,
I want to invite all of you who are watching
sending your emails about how you started following turning point.

(06:51):
Have you been with us for five years, ten years,
thirteen years, fourteen years, send us emails about how you
got involved and how Charlie impacted your life, and I'll
try to reach some of those, but I also want
to since it's the Women's Leadership Summit, I want to
and also since actually first they've just put this up.
It's Charlie talking about how he started Turning Point USA
fourteen years ago. Let's get that plane clip thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
It was June fifth, twenty twelve. I was wrestling kind
of what we're going to call this organization, and my
dad came up with a list of names, and all
of a sudden, he said, Turning Point.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I said, that's the one.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Spoke at a tea party rally out in Rockford, and
the journey started. No money, no connections, and no idea
what I was doing. Started the barnstorm Illinois and in
the Midwest, speaking at every possible tea party rally I could.
That was the garage that we literally started in Lamont, Illinois.
I had burning desire looking back at it, I wanted

(07:50):
to grow this thing more than anything imaginable. I poured
every part of my being into this. As Napoleon Hill
would say, conceive, believe, work it CBWA was the daily
mantra that I would have.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Charlie lived by that mantra every day. Conceive, believe, do
he more than anyone I knew. He was a person
who really believed in the power of one individual. Through
hard work, intense self belief, intense self discipline, he could
change the world. There's there's a sign that Charlie kept
in his office that we still have there and it

(08:26):
has three things on it, and it's how can I
honor God today? How can I serve others today? How
can I do something in the world today. I am
going off memory here. I might have it wrong, but Charlie,
more than anyone I know, lived by those principles and
as a result, he was able to change the world.
Fourteen years later we live in America that it did

(08:48):
reach a turning point. Things in this country changed because
of the model Charlie set and the life he lived.
We have a faith revival. We have different beliefs among
young people that we thought were impossible when this group
was started fourteen years ago, and we have Charlie to
thank for that and especially the faith revival. I really

(09:08):
want to remark on that all of us have heard here,
have heard firsthand stories of people who dedicated their lives
to Christ because of what they saw Charlie say and
will be Frank because of how Charlie lived his life
all the way to the end, and he accomplished so
much in the first thirteen years of turning point. We're
now at year fourteen and we're going to carry on

(09:29):
that legacy. We have some good breaking news today. We
have a good jobs reports come in and we've had
three months now of consecutive one hundred thousand plus job
growth in America and even CNN has to admit it.
Let's play clip twenty four.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
US economy adding one hundred and seventy two thousand jobs
last month. That easily surpassed the forecast, which was for
one hundred and five thousand. Also, March and April were
both revived higher. That is encouraging, and that means that
the US economy has now added one hundred thousand jobs
or more in three straight months. We haven't seen that

(10:10):
in more than two years.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
CNBC has also been touting the numbers. Let's get their
version of it clip twenty two.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
It is out the main job Job Jobs Report one
hundred and seventy two thousand. Is there any doubt that
this anecdote eleven it's about a good labor market has
been very correct?

Speaker 6 (10:29):
That is a really strong number.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
And last month, while we had a revision from one
hundred and fifteen thousand to one hundred and seventy nine thousand,
which means the two month revision has gotta be over
ninety thousand.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
We wanted to flag that. I think we've talked on
this show, Andrew and I how there's a lot of
there's a lot of dumerism going around on the right,
and a lot of that dumerism is not justified. People
decide they just forget about the border, and people decide
that the economy is catastrophically bad, even if it's not
because like they said, first time in two years, over
three straight months of one hundred thousand jobs added. But

(11:06):
it's actually even better than that because two years ago
you could be adding hundreds of thousands of jobs, but
we also had an open border with all of planet Earth.
We know that illegal immigrants were gobbling up jobs that
could be taken by ordinary by native born Americans. We
know that h one b's were pouring and legal immigrants
were pouring it to take jobs. So any job added

(11:27):
is a lot more valuable now because we're not endlessly
importing the rest of the world to take those jobs.
So that's some good news, because that's what we need
for What Charlie cared most about American young people, he
cared a huge amount about the economic well being of
young people. He knew they were falling behind. They were
struggling to meet the milestones that their parents and grandparents

(11:49):
met of marriage, children, family house. He knew they were
struggling to hit those things, and he knew that the
bedrock of them being able to achieve that is getting in,
getting good jobs, building careers that could actually pay for
those things. But that is also, at the same time,
a means to an end. Charlie cared a tremendous amount

(12:10):
about the spiritual health of young people. He knew there
was no point to getting rich if it was just
spent on hedonism, if it was spent on emptiness. He
knew you needed something more. And so I want to
continue tying this to the Women's Leadership Summit that's starting
today by revisiting some of Charlie's remarks at past women's
leadership summits. And this is a very good clip of

(12:32):
his on clip thirty four talking about his celebration with
his family of the Sabbath Clip thirty four.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
So I think that to our own detriment and to
our own failure, we as Christians, have decided to cast away,
resting on one of the seven days God rested after creation.
That comes before the Hebrews. It comes even before the
creation of the of the modern world and civilization as
we know it, and so we honor the Sabbath. Were

(13:00):
very serious about it. We get to spend more time
with our family. We do no news, we do no work,
and it says very clearly in the scriptures, for six
days you shall work, and the seventh day you shall rest.
If you are feeling overrun by society, you might be
feeling depressed or anxious, here's this one way that you
might be able to improve. Turn your phone off for
one day, no contact, no social media, no work. Your

(13:24):
mental health will improve dramatically.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
He was a man with a great deal of wisdom.
And here's some more wisdom. This is another speech at
the Leadership Summit clip thirty five. It's him talking about
our responsibilities as ambassadors of our worldview. Let's play that
clip thirty five.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
What do we always do when we ask for questions?
We ask for the disagreements to go to the front
of the line.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
Right.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
In fact, we demand it, right, we like extract the disagreement.
And I think and I'm not, And you guys can
make your own assumption looking at the videos. We always
treat everybody with respect and we listen to what they
have to say. In fact, we want it to be
a forum of discussion and debate and dialogue and that
collision of ideas. And I totally agree, because I think

(14:10):
there's too much division and divisiveness. We have a responsibility
as free speech advocates to be the ambassadors of decency.

Speaker 8 (14:17):
And respect we do.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
To hear what other people have to say and to
find common ground.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Charlie lived by I think one of the reasons Charlie
resonated so much with young people, including young people who
weren't believers, weren't necessarily in full alignment with Charlie, but
he had so much resonance with them because, more than
just about anyone I've ever seen in my life, Charlie
so truly lived everything he preached. He talked about the

(14:46):
importance of decency and respect, and he went onto those campuses.
He confronted people who said only hateful things about him,
and he could respond with love. He could preach the
Gospel everywhere he went and with the Sabbath th Charlie
talked about being Christian. He said people should be Christian,
but there are a lot of people in public life
who say they are Christian. Charlie clearly had the Gospel

(15:09):
pervade every part of his life, even even when he
was away from the public stage. I remember we would
have conversations with Charlie and how he approached political topics,
how he approached his own life, how he approached running
a company. It came through a Christian lens. What would
a believer of the Gospel do? What would christ do?
What does a Christian? How should a Christian live their life?

(15:31):
And I think that's how he was able to speak
to so many people, including we're getting these interviews here.
I have one from Twyla. She says, my husband and
I watched Charlie every day on rav He was a
very important part of our lives. We miss him every
single day. We also have Christina. She says, thank you, Tpusa.
I was always so busy working in my younger adult life,

(15:53):
I had little time for politics, but my mother told
me about TPUSA, and she always praised Charlie. After listening
to him, I understood why I lost my husband in
twenty sixteen. Thank you for the hope your organization brings
in times of uncertainty and despair. Thank you, Christina.

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Speaker 3 (17:31):
So we've been talking a lot. First we were talking
about Tofu Tallurico in Texas. And the other big icon
of the Democrats running for Senate this year is the
oyster farmer of Maine, Graham Platner. Andrew's really been hammering
him on X He's been talking about his oyster business
is kind of a NEPO baby fake. He's getting possibly

(17:52):
dubious maximum via disability payments. And a man. He's a
man with a Nazi tattoo that he claims he had
no idea about. And he is a man with several
fraught prior relationships. He was caught a few days ago.
They announced he'd admitted he'd been sending texts to women
even while married. And now the new York Times did

(18:13):
a dive into his relationships prior to his marriage. Their headline,
several women who dated Graham Platner recall unsettling behavior. That's
a rather mild way of putting it. We're joined now
by the editor in chief of the Daily Caller and
an old friend of mine, Amber Duke Amber. Are you there, hi, Blake,
Nice to see you all righty Well, let's spell it

(18:34):
out for us. Was Graham Plattner's behavior unsettling or is
there something a little bit more to this?

Speaker 7 (18:40):
I think what the New York Times did here was
what we could call a soft catch and kill. So
what they did is they took these accusations from women,
the primary of which, in the most serious was from
a conservative activist by the name of Lindsay Fifield, who
I also full disclosure no personally, and they tried to
bury the most salacious accuss under a bunch of pr fluff, euphemism,

(19:04):
and even under ex girlfriend character witness from people that
were provided to them by the Grand Platiner campaign. So
they apparently decided that these accusations were too serious for
them to pass on, so they decided to run the story.
But basically water it down significantly so they can say, hey,
we did.

Speaker 10 (19:23):
Our jobs, but also given up wiggle room.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
For Platner to say that these accusations are not damaging
enough that he would need to drop out of the race,
because the most serious accusation that Fivefield makes is that
Platner actually physically abused her, claiming that he would grab
her shoulders so hard that he would leave marks on her,
that in one case, he twisted her arm behind her back,
shoved her into her room, closed the door, would not

(19:49):
let her out, so she actually had to sleep there
overnight until she was able to leave in the morning.
And she also accused Platner of definitely knowing what that
Nazi tattoo was, because she had provided The New York
Times with corroborating text of her telling friends that he
had this tattoo in that it was indeed a Nazi
symbol well before Graham. Platner insists that he found out

(20:11):
about it from the media, so they deliberately buried all
of this information twenty two plus paragraphs down in the piece,
slapped this headline on it to say that his behavior
was merely unsettling because most people are not going to
read past the first three to four paragraphs of one
of these hit pieces.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, exactly. I'm just thinking, I think all of us
remember the Brett Kavanaugh saga from oh Man that was
nearly a decade ago, I think eight years ago now,
and the way they spun that where they're taking kind
of total nothing burger stuff and suggesting that Brett Kavanaugh
is the psychopathic abuser. And then, as you say, here,

(20:48):
it's just yeah, during one argument, he twisted her arm
behind her back, shoved her into a bedroom and held
the door close from the other side so she couldn't
get out, telling her to remain there until she was
I can think of a lot of other ways of
describing this. Yeah, rent your arm behind your back and
imprison you in a room. I can think of how

(21:10):
The New York Times would characterize that in many other situations.
And as you say, besides the fact that they lowball
how it's described, it's also buried very deep in this article.
It's that classic New York Times reverse Christmas tree construction.
They lead with the softest stuff and then you're, gosh,
this looks sick. About what twenty five paragraphs in they go, oh,

(21:33):
and by the way, he maybe abused his girlfriend.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
That's exactly what happened here. And the other key point
to make is that and Fifield has now confirmed this
herself on her ex account. She was supposed to be
in this story alongside two other accusers who were preparing
to accuse Platner of sexual assault. Now those two women's
stories were ripped out of the piece at the last minute.
Fifield was not informed that their stories were not going

(21:58):
to be in there, so they basically put her on
an island, making her the key accuser. There is one
other named person in this piece, but she did not
go into details about the quote unquote unsettling incident that
caused her to cut off contact with Graham Platner. So
what they did is they basically served Lindsay up on
a silver platter so that Platner's allies in the democratic

(22:20):
media and in the influencer space could just focus on
discrediting her, claiming that she was only doing this for
partisan motivations and that they were unable to corroborate her story. Now,
compare this to the Christine Blasi Ford saga. There's no
dispute here that Lindsay and Graham dated. There's no dispute

(22:40):
that she believed he was toxic and engaged in ways.

Speaker 10 (22:45):
That were quite awful to her.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
There is a contemporary is diary entry from shortly after
they stopped dating, where she describes him as the most toxic,
abusive man that she's ever met. Friends who knew her
at the time knew that she was dating Graham and
also believe the relationship to be toxic. The only thing
that The Times was not able to corroborate where these
specific allegations of physical abuse. And I'm sure I won't

(23:10):
surprise you to hear this, Blake. This is not uncommon
for abuse victims because they're often embarrassed by the fact
that they are in these relationships and continue to be
after the physical abuse happened, so it's not super common
for them to share it with their friends. Now, all
of this is to say, I don't know whether or
not the physical abuse actually happened. I do know Lindsay,

(23:30):
as I said, I do believe her to be a credible,
truthful person. But I think the key point here is
that what The New York Times did was journalistic malpractice.
They actually caused harm to a potential victim by feeding
her false promises about what was going to be in
this story, and then fed her to the wolves in
the area of the democratic media and activist establishment that

(23:54):
were able to go out and attack her even preemptively
before this story came out, but certainly after as well.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Well. Even if it was a soft catch and kill
by The New York Times, really, Plattner himself may be
awkward enough that he manages to botch the gift the
Times has given him. He went on ms NOW last
night on Chris Hayes to give an interview in response
to this, and more than a few of the clips
where he tries to explain himself come off quite odd.

(24:22):
Here's Chris Hayes. He says, people were talking about your
Nazi tattoo and you claim you didn't know about it.
Let's do clip thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
How does she know it's a Nazi tattoo in August
of last year and you don't know it's Nazi tattoo
in August of last year.

Speaker 11 (24:39):
Well, she certainly didn't send that text to me, So
whoever she sent it to and was talking to, that's
I can't say why, but I will say that I
certainly didn't know and the text messages she's sending to
friends who may have recognized it that they didn't tell
me that.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
So no, as you know, they say in this article
that supposedly he would show off this tattoo to his
girlfriends and call it my totin comp you would joke
about it being a Nazi tattoo. I think that sounds
a lot more believable to me than this guy permanently
put a thing on his body for a decade and
a half and never wondered what its origin was or

(25:20):
any facts about it. Sounds more plausible to me. Chris
also asked him about the sexting story that came out
last week. Let's play clip twenty nine.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
And did this stop? If it stopped?

Speaker 12 (25:32):
If there was stuff that you're not proud of that
you worked out with your wife, you don't want to
talk about the details.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
When did it stop?

Speaker 11 (25:39):
Oh, that stopped when it was happening. I mean it
was a Amy and I Amy and I. It happened
soon after we got married, and we dealt with it
very very early in our relationship, and so that's that's
when it stopped.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
That's a great response to when did you how did
your sexting stop? It stopped while it was happening.

Speaker 10 (26:03):
Yeah, it's truly incredible. It's incredible.

Speaker 7 (26:06):
I mean, clearly this guy is not being honest in
this interview. It's it's very obvious from the sort of fake,
compassionate stare with the down turned eyes and the slight frown,
and even the way he responded to Lindsay's accusations. He
was asked directly about the allegations of physical abuse, and

(26:29):
he said. Chris Hayes asked him, is Lindsay lying? Is
she lying about this? And he said, no, this is
not true. That's not the question you were asked. It
just seems a little sketchy to me. I mean, the
Nazi tattoo thing, I think, to me is pretty cut
and dry. If your ex girlfriend, who is by no
means a history buff or some somebody who would recognize

(26:52):
these symbols, one off is telling her friends, Hey, my
ex boyfriend's now running for Senate and he has a frickin'
Nazi tattoo, which nobody in the media knew about at
the time. This was not public information. Only someone who
had seen him shirtless would have known he had this tattoo,
and only someone who would have talked to him about it,
would have known actually what it was.

Speaker 10 (27:13):
I doubt she would have gone home and.

Speaker 7 (27:14):
Googled it afterwards if he told her it was just
a skull and crossbones. She's texting her friends about it
in August, he says. In October, I just found out
about this. You're telling me this for the first time.
Come on, nobody believes that exactly.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
This scandal is getting more legs, even if it's a
soft catch and kill. The New York Times reporting unflattering
things about a Democrat Senate candidate is usually not a
good sign. So Democrat leaders are getting asked about this, though,
and their response has been mostly a shrug. They asked
to Keim Jeffries about this, and he says, I haven't
really been watching it Clip twenty five.

Speaker 13 (27:50):
In terms of the allegations that have been waged with
respect to this particular candidate for the Senate, I haven't
followed it closely. I will continue to defer far to
Lida Schumer and Senator Jillibrand in terms of the best
path forward in Maine.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
He's deferring the Senator Jillibrand. That's a notable name to
call out Jillibrand really was about to say distinguished, disgraced herself,
dishonored herself. In the late twenty tens, tried to really
brand herself as a me too senator. And now we
have this me too eruption going on with one of
the Democrats. Should we say celebrity picks?

Speaker 7 (28:27):
Here?

Speaker 3 (28:27):
We got another clip, and then we'll go back to Amber.
They asked Alexandria Ocasio Cortez about this clip thirty one.

Speaker 12 (28:34):
If you're reported by Grim Plattner in this New York
Times article trapping woman in the room of being.

Speaker 14 (28:40):
Physical, Yeah, I mean, as you all know, this all
kind of just came out. I've been doing legislay of
business on the floor, so I need to dig into
everything further before commenting on it. Yeah, because I think
this reporting just recently came out, So I just want
to make sure that I am fully read of office
before comments.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Now, as you know, Amber, even if that report had
just come out, there had been reports last week, reports
in the last few months. There's plenty of stuff for
her to know about with their senate candidate who has
stood out supposedly as a man of the far left,
kind of an AOC brand. What should we make of
the Democrat response to all of this?

Speaker 7 (29:19):
If you look at any one of these Democrats who
is dismissing these allegations or giving these mealy mouthed answers,
I would guarantee you that ninety nine percent of them.
You dig through their social media history and you will
find something of the following, either a believe all women,
a hashtag me too, or some kind of screed about

(29:41):
how Kavanaugh does not deserve to be sitting on the
Supreme Court. It's really without fail I mean, Sheldon Whitehouse
immediately smeared Fifield as just a partisan motivated political actor.
He has numerous tweets in his history talking about standing
with women and believing all women, and so the hypocrisy
here is really, really rich, and it just tells us

(30:03):
what we already know about Democrats, which is that they
are obsessed with power they will do anything to get it.
They don't have a great alternative in Maine. Janet Mills
doesn't have any money. So even if she were to
unsuspend her campaign and try to square off against Platner,
she has less than a week before the primary. She
has no money with which to campaign. Plattner still has
about eight to ten days before he has to drop

(30:25):
out of the race.

Speaker 10 (30:26):
Otherwise he's locked in.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
Where is this magical mystery candidate that's going to replace
him and potentially go up against Susan Collins coming from so,
I think the Democrats feel that they have no choice
now but to rally around Plattner. They think that he
has a strong chance of beating Susan Collins. The polls
are pretty tight, so they're just going to go all
in and try to brush off whatever scandals come through

(30:51):
as being just Republican smear jobs.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
I just can't get over how we had to endure
the smearing of Brett Kavanaugh, obviously a respectful not just
a respectable dude, but a very boring dude. It's practically
unfathomable to imagine him sexually assaulting a woman. And then
we had all these media outlets run with how Christine
Blasi fort she was so believable, it was so compelling
her testimony, and then we have this where it's vastly

(31:16):
more believable from everything we know about Platner, with his
history of infidelity, his history of Nazi SS tattoos, and
then suddenly it's radio silence, no big deal, let's forge ahead.
Does this show a real transformation in the party or
is this really how the party has always been? Do
you think?

Speaker 7 (31:36):
I think this is how it's always been. It's always
been this artistan gainsmanship. We saw the same thing going
back to Clarence Thomas, and I think when we look at.

Speaker 10 (31:44):
The specific allegations in the New.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
York Times piece as well, let's be really clear about
the fact that they're not over exaggerated by the alleged victim. Right,
she says, I he never punched me. You know, he
didn't break my arm, he never slapped me. And she
doesn't over sell what she's telling this outlet. She's clearly

(32:07):
trying to be very measured and accurate in what she's saying,
and yet she has been accused of being this sort
of manipulative, politically motivated person by the left. And the
other important element of this piece as well is that
I started getting text messages and phone calls yesterday morning

(32:29):
that this piece was about to come out, and we
quickly after that saw numerous tweets from people on the
left like Kyle Kolinski, Crystal Ball, Emma of England, saying, hey, guys,
the New York Times is about to do a hit
job on Graham Platner. And we even had one Democratic
strategist indicate that he heard that there were going to

(32:51):
be sexual assault victims on the record. So all of
the potential details that were going to show up in
this story were apparently circulated the Platner campaign preemptively so
that they could start preparing their defense.

Speaker 10 (33:04):
So the New York.

Speaker 7 (33:05):
Times basically gave them an open window for them to
start preparing to attack the victim that they were supposedly
trying to tell the story of. I mean, the other
side of this as well is that these two alleged
sexual assault victims who are supposed to be in the
New York Times piece, they still exist. They haven't had

(33:26):
their stories printed, but they still exist. And my guess
is if they see what the New York Times did
to Fifield, who she says, has they've been in contact
with each other, She's been talking to these other victims,
they created something of a support group.

Speaker 10 (33:39):
There's still the.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Possibility for them to come out and share their stories
without the New York Times. And so I think what
we're seeing from the Democrats and from their allies in
the media.

Speaker 10 (33:49):
Is a level of panic, of trying.

Speaker 7 (33:51):
To tarnish Fifield so aggressively and thoroughly that these other
victims no longer feel comfortable coming forward exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
And I want to take a chance. So Lindsey the
ex girl, the woman whose arm was held behind her
back by Platner, she posted something early today about how
she was treated by The New York Times. In early April,
the New York Times came to me. I asked how
they got my number. I said, I was not interested
in sharing my story. They said, but wait, there are

(34:20):
other women, women terrified to tell their stories. You need
to band together. We will help you, we will protect you.
It felt like fate. She says she'd seen the Eric
Swalwell story happen. She said she'd seen similar stories. So,
she says, I told them. I let them take pictures
of my diary pages. I sent them screenshots of messages.
It was excruciating. And then we don't have time for

(34:42):
all of it here. But I invite everyone to go
and find this online, because, as you say, the New
York Times they then hung her out to dry. And
that's quite the thing for the gray Lady to do
after how they've handled so many other stories. Amber, thank
you for coming on. Check her out. Check out her
work at The Daily Caller vild Haunt. I highly recommend it.
Thanks for coming on, Amber, Thanks Blake.

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Speaker 3 (37:47):
This is our Friday, Ask Us Anything, Our where our
subscribers and members they can join our weekly call or
send in messages to ask whatever they want of this show.
But we're also joined by a special guest this time,
because otherwise it just be me. Everyone else is off
at the Women's Leadership Summit. We're joined by longtime friend

(38:08):
of the show. Sometimes he's mustachioed. Today he's not. We're
joined by Alex Marlow, host of The Alex Marlow Show. Alex,
are you there, Blake.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
It's great to be with you.

Speaker 12 (38:16):
I kind of wish I was at the Women's Leadership Summit, though,
but I did not get the invitation. I am a
I am a nonjest dating parent, and I think that
you guys tend to keep it to the gest dating
parents at the summit. But that's okay, and I'm honored
to be here on the show.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Alrighty, well, we look forward to next year's just stating
parents Leadership Summit. That felt painful even to recite. Ghastly.

Speaker 12 (38:42):
They're trying to sell us that they're trying to sell
us that that's gonna take.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Is there any chance that it actually takes?

Speaker 12 (38:47):
Hope, that we just start referring to people as gest
dating individuals or nonjest dating.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
I don't think it'll take, but it could take in
the form of blue state laws. We've talked about the
vibe shift. There's been a shift away. We've actually been
winning on the trans isshoe and in red states there's
been this turn, but Blue states only seem to get bluer.
And it's very bleak but Alex. In addition, as you
may know, today, along with the start of the leadership Summit,
today is fourteen years of Turning Point USA. So I've

(39:14):
been asking our viewers and listeners to send an emails
about how they first encountered Charlie, how Charlie changed the life,
and I want to read some of those throughout this hour.
So I want to start with a few of those
before we get to our first question, Kelsey. She says,
I first learned about Charlie ironically, when he was a
guest on a certain woman's show on Prager You. I

(39:36):
remember thinking, who the heck is this guy? I love
what he's saying. His podcast quickly became my go to
I remember so looking forward to the then only two
days a week show and when I went to it
daily during the COVID days. Charlie has built my faith
and awareness of how we have a duty to use
it in all areas of life. He helped solidify the

(39:57):
conviction in me and my husband to start a family.
We had initially not planned to have children. Charlie helped
turn that around, and I'm seven weeks and two days today.
Oh God, bless you. Kelsey I didn't even know she
was going to say that in the email. I'm so
happy to see that. I want another one here from Sandra.
I started following c K a little over a year

(40:19):
ago to become a better debater and public speaker, and
I learned way more than I thought I would. I
learned we must be bold in our faith, we must
stand for our beliefs. And I learned how to be
a better debater. Since September, I've changed my life dramatically
to live for faith. Every day we have Mick or
Mi if it's Mick or Mike. But I got hooked

(40:41):
on Charlie around twenty seventeen. I was in a very
liberal middle school in Oregon. He gave me the words
to defend my views when those teachers would question my
politics and faith. I had enjoyed seeing his tiktoks, his debates,
his clips, and his ex postings up to the day
he was taken from us. Thank you, Charlie for working
to save the West. Thank you for all those. We'll

(41:01):
keep getting to those throughout the hour, But we want
to get to our first, am. So let's see who
we have here. How about how about let's do it
let's do David here, David unmute yourself and what's your question.

Speaker 8 (41:16):
My question is thanks, thanks for reading those. Of course
I met Charlie when I never met him but two
years ago and turn my life around, so appreciate what
he's done. My question is is how in California we're
in we're in Caumnist, California. How do we start the

(41:39):
legislature from.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Cheating, stop them from cheating, Alex, I saw it in
your preview. We're also mentioning specifically the Nick Shirley Act,
which is this really galling act they have in California
to basically, uh, make it illegal for Nick Shirley types too,
as they would say harassed, but we would say police

(42:00):
monitor exposed immigrations support services companies that are providing aid
to immigrants, many of them we know illegal, many of
them we know engaging in fraud. They're passing bills like
this in California, and we know they've passed a lot
of sanctuary bills. Alex, how do you feel can we
say of California.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
It's very tough.

Speaker 12 (42:19):
I mean, this is the big I think this is
kind of the final test of what we're seeing right now.
If somehow Spencer Pratt can survive the mail in ballot
fraud that we're going to see in LA and Steve
Hilton can survive in California, then we'll have a chance
to at least start resetting things.

Speaker 6 (42:38):
But some things are pretty bleak out here.

Speaker 12 (42:41):
First of all, the system is so rigged against fairness
because again, we count votes for thirty days in California.
I know this sounds crazy to people, but the process
is literally thirty days. Anything that's postmarked by the end
of the day an election day counts. It takes up
to seven days to gather all those and then there's
a ballot curing period where you can technically change ballots

(43:03):
if they meet certain conditions, and all this takes a month,
and during that month is all time to cheat. That's
why the Democrats have designed that system. And the only
way that we're going to fix it, because a lot
of this stuff is dictated by localities and by states,
is if the Republicans win. And there's just not that
many Republicans left. I mean, there's a lot of them.
It's the most Republicans in the country on California. But

(43:25):
everyone who's here, myself included, we think about leaving every
five minutes. We can't stop looking at real estate and
other parts of the country in Arizona and in Texas
and in Florida.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
And yeah, it's really bleak. There's a study called by
these academics. I know academics are often bad, but they're
not always bad. And there's a paper one of them
that they call that the Curly Effect. There was a
mayor of Boston named Curly a century ago, and he
was basically a terrible mayor for Boston. But he was
so bad he drove all of his political opponents out
of the city and so he kept winning elections despite

(43:56):
being terrible at running things. And we've seen similar things
take effect in other cities, in Detroit, in DC. As
these cities have entered death spirals, they've had these mayors
who can just stick around for a decade plus on
end because it's only their people who stick around. Same
things going on in California. But I know people want
white pills. I have a white pill for you. You've

(44:17):
mentioned their month to count ballots. That's before the Supreme
Court right now. We may by the end of the month,
we might have the Supreme Court say, actually, it's not
legal for you to just take a month on these.
You have to count ballots that arrive by election day.
Otherwise you're breaking the rules. You're doing something that's against
really our republican principles, our constitution. It's not widely known

(44:39):
we're required to have a Republican form of government in
each state, and they've often interpreted to basically say, you
can't do obvious shenanigans. We can't have the US be
resembling some third world Latin American dictatorship. We found a
new load of votes three weeks in. How convenient. So
I think that's the way we're gonna make changes. And
I think think Spencer Pratt is also showing us. Obviously

(45:03):
we don't even know if he's going to make it
to the runoff, but the energy around him, I think
is setting a template for where you can find hope.
And maybe it'll be too late in Los Angeles, but
it might be a way that someone who can run
in his style might be able to get fire across California.
They can get those suburban voters who mostly vote Democrat,
but they're not one hundred percent left every single time,

(45:25):
and they've moved to the suburbs of Los Angeles because
the city's too crazy. I think there can be hope.
I think Steve Hilton he could potentially perform even if
he won't win, he can perform well. We have to
remain combative in California because, as Charlie is shown with
Turning Point, we never know how the zeitgeist is going
to change. We never know what incredible individuals like Charlie

(45:46):
are going to be able to do to change people's opinions,
whether it's young people or Hispanics or other groups that
have been locked in as Democrats forever. So the trick is,
you may have to leave California, but if you're not
going to, you keep fighting because it is the good
fight to have, and there's always potential white pills. Sometimes
the Supreme Court throws you a bone. We got an
absolute flood of emails. I asked for them at the

(46:09):
start of the show today, how people encountered Charlie, how
he changed their lives. We're getting some incredible ones. I
want to read a few more of these. Shelley says,
I discovered podcasts during the pandemic. When I found Charlie
and TPUSA, I was hooked. Charlie was the most gifted, articulate,
intelligent young man I had ever seen and heard. I'm
a single baby boomer woman from Minnesota with no kids,

(46:30):
but I care so much about the US, It's future
and the young generations coming up. Charlie gave me so
much hope. I saw him speak three times at Dream
City Church in Phoenix. I didn't know how precious those
events would become to me. Thank you, guys and gals
for carrying on. Thank you Michelle Shelley, thank you so
much for that we have. Let's see, Anally says. I

(46:54):
started getting to know Charlie when his show started on
RAV in June twenty twenty two. I loved his content
and how he spoke about his faith. It gave me
more strength as a Catholic. I used to only go
to church on significant days, as the Catholic Church in
the US is not what I learned growing up in Cuba.
Because of Charlie, I would became a more conservative person
and even after becoming a mother and so on. After

(47:16):
his assassination, I started to watch more of his speeches
and how the Constitution is connected to God and the Bible.
My passion for this country has grown stronger every day,
and my faith has grown deeper. Thank you for that one.
I want to get another one here, Katie says. For
twenty years, church was a part of my past, a
closed book I had no intention of reopening. I had
built a life outside it, comfortable in my routine. When

(47:39):
Charlie left this world, that routine shattered. The silence Charlie
left behind was deafening, and in that emptiness a quiet
urge began to pull at me. It was the prompt
to seek solace in the cadence of a church service.
Walking back in after two decades felt surreal. The hymns
sounded the same, the light filtered through the windows, just

(47:59):
like THEO, but it was entirely different. Charlie's passing broke
my heart wide open, but in the wreckage it reopened
a path to faith that had sat dark for twenty years.
Rest in peace, Charlie. Thank you for starting your amazing organization.
We miss you. Thank you, Katie. That that's an incredible testimony.
I've been reading these basically blind as I go through,

(48:21):
and that's an incredible testimony. Alex, do you have anything
to say about fourteen years to turnament, how did you
meet Charlie?

Speaker 12 (48:28):
So this is I got to meet him from the
very start. So I got two good meeting Charlie stories.
The first one is, of course Charlie started his public
life at Breitbart, which is just unbelievable. He sent us
a story he was a reader of Breitbart in when
he was a high school student in Chicago, and he
had biased in his textbooks, and he sent us an
article and we did what we always do a bright part.

(48:48):
We encouraged it his in journalism, and we said, well,
why don't you write it up? And I think he
was frankly somewhat surprised by the invitation, but took us
up on it, and he worked on the piece really hard,
he told me years later, and he caught lightning it
bottle completely caught fire. He was all over TV and radio,
was on Fox News. Every journalist kind of dreams of
this is their first piece, hits this hard, and it did,

(49:08):
and it really churning. Point had started, but it was
very very nascent at that point. And I really helped
Charlie get his foot in the door with I think
some donors, and started taking it from there and doing
the amazing things he did with it. It all started
with a piece of bright part news, which is something
I'll be telling that story for the rest of my life.
Another fun story is about I would say probably it

(49:29):
was twenty fifteen.

Speaker 6 (49:31):
I think it was, so maybe a few years after
it started. Maybe it was earlier.

Speaker 12 (49:36):
Actually, Kim been twenty fifteen, It might have been twenty
twelve or so. But anyway, I had met Charlie at
a tea party event in South Carolina. This is definitely
pre Trump, and we were both there and Charlie had
basically a whole day to kill, and so we just
hung out because I was emceeing part of the day
and Charlie never had a minute to kill in the
last five years I knew him, but he apparently like

(49:57):
a whole day. We just hanging out at this tea
party and I spent the day trying to recruit him,
trying to get him to come work for me at Breitbart,
and he said, you know, the training point is just
it's it's a little too big.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
I gotta see where this goes. I gotta see this through.

Speaker 12 (50:11):
And unfortunately for Breitbart, but positively for Charlie, I think
he made the right choice, and he did a lot
with his decision to stay at turning point.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Do that that's that's a tremendous story. I love that
you you helped push him along. But I think obviously
at this point, I think we see the hand of
God in that. And also absolutely a lot, as Charlie
himself would endorse that luck is not just luck. Luck
is when talent meets opportunity and when hard work meets opportunity,
and Charlie had both talent and hard work in spades.

(50:39):
I want to get to another one of our AMA questions, Anthony,
unmute yourself. What's your question?

Speaker 15 (50:44):
Hi Blake, and Hi Alex. I was just gonna say,
Andrew for a minute.

Speaker 6 (50:48):
It happens every day. It happened yesterday.

Speaker 15 (50:51):
Oh I get I'll try not to make it ap again.
So my question is this. We're in Pride month, as
we all know, and why are we pushing it so much?
And why is a small group of people not understanding that,
like the United States flag represents everybody, doesn't matter what
if you're male, female, straight, gay, whatever, different color skin.

(51:14):
Because in my town, in Webster, New York, we have
a new supervisor. He decided last Friday to just go
out buy a Pride flag and put on the flag
pole on this past Monday. Because it hit close to
home for him. It has now created a culture war
in our town of little over forty thousand people. There
are some people that are not happy with it because

(51:37):
he just did it on his own. We've never had
a Pride flag put up in past years and now
last night, one of the town board me is it
got preheated from what my friends were telling me that
we're there and there were a lot of people in
the open forum that were in support of it Pride flag.
There were some people that weren't. But the two Republicans
and a moderate Democrat put on a floor a resolution

(51:58):
for and they motioned it to only allow the US flag,
the state flag, and if the town has a town
flag on the town hall flagpole in the flat. The
Pride flag came down this morning at nine am. It's
made a lot of news in everything. But like I said,
my question is why is a small group pushing this
when we have one flag that should represent everybody.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Well, I think I think you probably can suspect why
they push it. They push it because it is a
show of dominance. It's to say, this actually is a
national flag for all of us, This is our ideology.
Actually you must embrace this. You cannot oppose this. You
will get a far harsher penalty for damaging a pride
flag to facing a Pride flag than you ever will

(52:41):
for the American flag. And I think that says a
lot about the ideology they seek to impose on us.

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Speaker 3 (54:16):
We got one from EVA just a few minutes ago.
I started following Charlie in the year or two leading
up to the twenty four election. I think I first
came across him from TikTok videos. Last year, I took
my younger sister to the Student Action Summit. I'm thirty
one and she's twenty three. Neither of us were ready
to post anything publicly after the summit, but after Charlie's death,
we both made posts honoring him, and it was shocking

(54:39):
to see how many family members, sorority sisters, and former
coworkers unfriended and unfollowed us. But at the same time
we got a lot of private messages of support from
surprising people. My sister, after the Student Action Summit and
Charlie's assassination, got involved on her campus in Florida, and
we also went to and she also went to Amfest

(54:59):
with her friends. I'm so glad she has an organization
like this to be a part of and meet other
like minded people. By the way, I love all the
full all the from the archives episodes, and I love
that thought crime still continues. Well, both of those things
will continue. Thank you Eva for that. We'll try to
get to a few more of these as we go,
but really overwhelmed by the response here, Alex. Before the break,

(55:21):
we got a question from Anthony, why does the left
love to really impose the Pride flag as our second
national flag, really our only national flag? You might say,
what's the obsession with it?

Speaker 6 (55:34):
Yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 12 (55:35):
I am thinking about this in the context of the
joke that I opened with that we're going to have
the just dating humans or the nonest dating parents, whatever
it is. All of this is about their culture of death,
like they don't want to celebrate life. We have a
declining birth rate, we've declining marriage. Younger people are not
even trying to find their significant other and get married

(55:57):
and to procreate. And part of it is because there's
no glorification, there's no romanticization about the concept of having
a family and having children. In fact, it's looked down
upon because we know that we're supposed to either.

Speaker 6 (56:10):
Be spending our whole twenties scrolling.

Speaker 12 (56:12):
Reels, or we're supposed to be working for the corporation
serving the corporation.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
Are both, we're not supposed to be.

Speaker 12 (56:17):
Working family formation and our spiritual, our immortal soul. And
that's part of what the left is about, because they
feel like those people are more controllable if they are
bending the knee, genuflecting to the pride flag versus thinking
about a higher power, thinking about God, thinking about country.
All that type of stuff hurts their political power, and

(56:38):
the pride plag and demanding adherence to it, I really
think grows it and that's why they insist upon it,
because there's a power to it that they exert on
us by putting that in our face every day.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Yeah, there's something I can't remember. There's an essay by
an anti communist writer who I wish I remembered it
off the top of my head. Charlie was better at
this sort of thing, but he said a big point
of Communist propaganda was to humiliate someone with how insane
it was or how ridiculous it was. And I think
of that every time they update the Pride flag. It
wasn't enough to have a rainbow. It's that every year

(57:11):
there's a new group in the flag and it looks
more garish and ridiculous, and it's such a perfect encapsulation
of the left neuroses, their psychoses and the way they
have to foist them on every own.

Speaker 16 (57:21):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Now there's a purple circle in the flag that represents.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
What is the purple circle? And did they put the
Ukraine colors in for a while?

Speaker 3 (57:28):
With they did? Only I saw that once it was
Pride Dublin. Pride Dublin in Ireland added the Ukraine colors
to the Pride flag and it looked made it look
like the Death Star's laser. It kind of was all
pointed towards what thing. It looked. Really bizarre, uh, but
really remarkable. But it really gets how the left thinks
we have a right in question. I think you want
to take the lead on this. Alex Robin asks, why

(57:50):
do you think Spencer Pratt hit a nerve with so
many communities so far outside of California. Why does he
become this national icon for what he's doing? Actually, I
think I can tee that up since I'm not in California.
I think we care so much as much as we
can say, oh, forget the big cities, abandoned the big cities.

(58:10):
All of us have a big cultural tether. Almost everyone's
been to New York, most of us have been to
California or LA and all of our movies and shows
that so many of them are set there. All of
us have at least some understanding of these places, and
it wounds us to see them become so decayed and
so decrepit, And it really inspires us to see someone

(58:31):
stand up for those cities, even if we don't live
in them ourselves.

Speaker 12 (58:34):
What do you think, ales, Yeah, I think this is
there's a really complex answer. And it's just been fascinating
to watch this campaign, and I've got a lot to
say about it. But the one thing that's really I
think important is that a lot of people in our
hearts understand that we want California to be great. The
symbol of going west, the beauty of it, the vacation destinations,
the fact that so much of our culture comes from it,

(58:55):
which up until recently, you know, Hollywood was something that
exported American culture around the world. Now we just think
of it as a bunch of woke freaks running around
trying to trans the kids.

Speaker 6 (59:04):
But it wasn't always like that. And then Silicon.

Speaker 12 (59:06):
Valley, like it or not, it is sort of the
heartbeat of innovation around the planet. We want these things
to be great places. Think about how Breitbart started in La.
Daily Wires started in La. Prager, you started in La.
Think about so many of your favorite thinkers they may
have came from California, La in particular. And I think
a lot of us would like to see it be
great again. And what Spencer Pratt is saying is not

(59:29):
that hard. Let's just be competent, Clean the poop off
the street, get the needles out, of people's arms.

Speaker 6 (59:34):
Round up the drug dealers, the killers and the junkies.

Speaker 12 (59:37):
Let's get ice in there and getting all the legal
aliens back south of the border.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
If we do that, then we can be great. It
is not that hard.

Speaker 12 (59:43):
We just have a leadership classes unwilling to do that.
And he does it with these ads Blake that are
just revolutionary. They're hilarious, they're brilliant, they're beautiful, and he
makes it seem so easy. Democracy seems easy with a
guy like Spencer Pratt. And the last thing I'll say
on this, I know I've been ranting his message discipline
beyond belief. It's like he's been a politician for twenty years.

(01:00:05):
You cannot get him to stop talking about the core
issues that he wants to be on. He wants to
talk about the crackheads and the homeless and the poop
in the street. And that's it, and that's how you
be a politician.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
So much, it's so correct. There's a part in Charlie's
second class book, right Wing Revolution. He has a part
where he talks about if you live in a blue city,
a really democrat city, that doesn't mean you're off the
hook for getting involved because you can make the difference
in is your city run by a sane Democrat instead
of a maximilian sane Democrat or a sane moderate, someone

(01:00:35):
who will focus on those big issues. And I think
Spencer Pratt's been wise about that. He knows it's Los Angeles.
He's not going to run on I love Christianity and
I love you know, I'm pro life and anti trans
Those aren't issues that you're going to campaign on in LA.
And you're not going to change anyone anything in LA
on those issues. But you can say, wait, we don't
need to live in crap, we don't need to live

(01:00:57):
in a giant homeless encampment. Those things are fixable. Well,
even if you disagree with me on any other issue,
you don't need to run a maximal MAGA campaign in
a city that we know is not a MAGA city overall.
And I think that really inspires people. And we also
think back on Rudy Giuliani. He saved New York in
the nineties. That New York was in a more dire

(01:01:17):
state than LA is today, you might say, and it
actually was turned around with competent governance that focused on
those raw quality of life issues. And that's more and
more become a key conservative, Republican independent. Even advantage over
the left is we can deliver on making your life livable.

(01:01:38):
It's it really were. The person also asked if we
think he can win, Well, we'll see if he can
clear the month long counting of ballots in California. But
if he gets through, I do think he has a
potential to win the full election. I want to get
to another question to make sure we get through all
of these. Elizabeth unmute yourself and what's your question?

Speaker 16 (01:01:57):
Yes, Hi, thank you so much for taking call.

Speaker 17 (01:02:01):
So I think this year I've been the conservative forever
and I've never seen so much progress being made. And
our primaries with getting out Cassidy and getting out Cornyn,
and I kind of had a bit of a flashback
to when Richard Murdoch had won his primary against the

(01:02:23):
Rhino and Compant Indiana, and like they came up with
some ridiculous scandal of a dumb quote and he actually
ended up losing to a Democrat in Indiana. And I'm
just thinking, like, I don't put anything past these people
to sabotage like they would rather have a deranged, heretic

(01:02:44):
Vegan representing Texas than let Paxton win, and then they're
going to say, oh see, mega candidates can't win in
the general, and they're gonna try.

Speaker 16 (01:02:54):
And destroy the bag and movement that way.

Speaker 17 (01:02:57):
I think it's really important that we get Michael Wahte
to win in North Carolina or Tim tails is going
to go, see, you should have stuck with me.

Speaker 16 (01:03:05):
You called me a Rhino. At least I can win.
So I don't want to be a doomer.

Speaker 17 (01:03:09):
I want to fight because I think if we can
get these Magga people across the line, especially in Georgia,
I think we really have a good chance of flipping Georgia.

Speaker 16 (01:03:19):
I think we can flip Michigan because they're a candidate
in there is a maniac. How do we keep the GOP.

Speaker 17 (01:03:27):
And the Rhinos and the establishment from sabotaging all of
these candidates.

Speaker 16 (01:03:31):
I think this would give us so much momentum to.

Speaker 17 (01:03:34):
Take out Soon Langford and Murkowski in twenty twenty eight
if we do everything right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
A great question, Elizabeth, and that's where we look to
Charlie's example, Well, how do we stop them? The first
step is what are we ourselves doing? I inspired by Charlie,
I've actually become a precinct I've signed up to be
a precinct committee man here in Arizona. I've been doing
some door knocking in the last few weeks and turning
point in general, turning point action has been building out
that apparatus of ballot chasing, chase the vote finding, making

(01:04:02):
those connections with low engagement voters and making them more consistent.
That's one of the ways we do this is we
do the work two win elections so that it's harder
to sabotage us. And let's be frank, you're correct. In
twenty twelve, they did successfully pull off that sabotage. They
did successfully sabotage Kerry Lake. Sometimes they're able to do it.
But the long run trend is still a positive one.

(01:04:25):
If you compare the Senative today and the House of
today with the ones we had in twenty seventeen. However
many frustrations we have, they are better on the issues.
They are better on getting things done than they were then.
That's one of the reasons we've been able to secure
the border this time around when it was such a
pain last time. The long the arc of the universe
bends towards being more maga, being more successful, being more based,

(01:04:48):
being a better conservative movement, as long as we are
holding these politicians accountable, even if they're trying to sabotage
us the whole way.

Speaker 12 (01:04:55):
Alex any thoughts, Yeah, absolutely, I think it's a great summary.
And I'll just say that I just don't think that
the establishment in the Republican Party has any power at all.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
It's very very little. There's very small pockets.

Speaker 12 (01:05:06):
They can be spoilers in the Senate, but put your
head down and just nominate maggot candidates. We cannot have wishy,
washy Republicans. That's part of how we got in this
mass It's part of the rise of Charlie, part of
the rise of Breitbart. All of this is about fighting
back against the GOP establishment. So never be deterred and
never I feel like you had to compromise in that
front exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
I want to get a few.

Speaker 16 (01:05:26):
More message across the accelerationists.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Sorry, what was that again?

Speaker 16 (01:05:31):
How do we get that message through to the accelerationists
and the doomers.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Well, we're doing our best on that one. Because some
people there really is a will to doom. They love
doing it. It's emotionally satisfying in a way. It's the
same reason people like watching sad movies or horror movies.
There's this rush you get from being really angry and
being really upset, and it's a honestly, it's a I
have to be frank, it's kind of a moral flaw
to let that consume too much of your thinking. Charlie

(01:05:57):
was so good about you have to remain balanced. You
have to focus on things. And it's always incorrect to
say it will be better if we lose and things
are a catastrophe and the left get gets what they want.
People have had that same line. They had that line
in Soviet Russia right before the Bolsheviks killed millions of people.
They had that line in Nazi Germany. Oh, let Hitler fail. No,

(01:06:17):
it is not ever good to abandon our principles and
abandon the fight and intentionally lose. We have to always
be ironclad on that message. And Alex, I think you'd
agree with ten seconds here.

Speaker 12 (01:06:29):
Yeah, I think that's right on the dumers. Look, I
don't try to give them a lot of extra attention.
They get a ton, but I would say that we're
learning that a lot of their numbers are inflated online,
so don't feel like you're that powerful.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
It feels like the optimist are more powerful.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
True enough Optimism wins. I want to get a few
more of these emails. We got absolutely overwhelmed with them,
so if I don't get to yours, I apologize, but
thank you for sending it in. We love reading these.
Barb says, I am a seventy eight years young lady
and I happen to see Charlie. I immediately knew he
the truth and loved God. I miss him terribly. Thank you, Barb.

(01:07:04):
We have Russell. I first emailed Charlie about four or
five years ago because I thought I had a couple
of really good ideas for the Trump campaign and forgetting
messages across UD. I gained respect watching Charlie over the
next few years. It's so very sad that someone felt
they needed to take his life. I have always respected
all of the people of Turning Point, USA. God bless

(01:07:26):
you and take good care. And he actually he says
he's sad that Charlie didn't respond to his email with ideas.
I will say he did read it. I've actually Charlie
always said he read all the emails, and I've gone
back and I've looked at his wave of emails from
twenty twenty five twenty twenty four, and literally every single
one is read. There was an unread list of zero.
I don't have that in my own personal inbox. I

(01:07:48):
can assure you, and we have Lauren superstoked you may
read this. I love everyone at Turning Point, USA. I'm
from Chicago and I moved there. I first heard of
Charlie back when he was with a certain woman who
she has an unkind word for. I went back to
college in twenty seventeen, and I believe I was having Sorry,

(01:08:09):
I was a Trump supporter and was having a hard time.
So I just did my work and left. But I
would say when the show came on RAP in twenty twenty,
that's when I became an everyday watcher. My husband and
I still watch every day. Thank you, Lauren, Thank you
for that. All right, we want to get to a
couple more questions here, Tim, unmute yourself and what's your question?

Speaker 18 (01:08:29):
Hey, Blake and Alex, good to see you guys. Last Thursday,
I saw some posts on social media about Josh Holly
presiding over a proform a session in the Senate where
they kind of gavel in and then gavel out a session.
But I believe that works to effectively keep the Senate
in air quotes in session, and it keeps Trump from

(01:08:49):
being able to make recess appointments, which people were calling
it Josh Holly out on that because Democrats never do
this kind of stuff to their presidents, and it's just
inferior when Republicans do it to our own guys, Is
there a reason vout explanation for why Holly did this
or I'm kind of a loss. I thought he was

(01:09:10):
a good guy. I think he is, but super disappointed
in this move. So I want to get your thoughts
on that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
So I haven't closely followed this particular instance, but you
are correct. That's a reason the Senate does that. They
kind of have these fake sessions permanently in and one
of the reasons to do it is you block the
president from making recess appointments that can last for a while.
And it's especially frustrating here because the Senate. Okay, if
you guys want to have more weight with the Trump administration,
one of the things you can do is vote on

(01:09:37):
his nominees. I was just looking the other day. The
President has sent nominees for ambassadorships to major countries like Australia,
South Korea. Those were made months ago, they haven't been
voted on. There are other positions he's nominated people for
they're just not getting voted on. If the Senate was
being on the ball, where every time someone's nominated, they
have that hearing right away, get it done in a

(01:09:57):
few weeks, get them voted on up or down, I'd
be more tolerant of them also being annoyed and saying, oh,
we don't want you making these recess appointments. We want
to make full appointments. But when they're not being on
the ball on nominees or on the Save Act or
anything else, and they're also being territorial, I find that
really aggravating and upsetting. And if Josh Holly doesn't have

(01:10:19):
a better explanation for why I was doing that, I
do find that disappointing because we have considered him a
friend and ally, but I don't know further details, so
I don't want to condemn him or rush to judgment
about that. Alex, do you have any thoughts?

Speaker 12 (01:10:31):
Yeah, I have the same thought, is that there's got
to be an explanation for it, because, as far as
I can tell, the callers correct that he did gabble
in this pro forma session that does prevent recess appointments, and.

Speaker 6 (01:10:41):
I didn't see him respond.

Speaker 12 (01:10:43):
I saw some of the posts online about it, and
I didn't see any response to it. So yeah, please
reach out to the show if you guys have an explanation,
because I don't get it. And I'm a big fan
of Josh Holly. He's a bit of an iconoclass politically.
I don't always agree with everything he says, but he's
a super sharp and high integrity person, So I don't
get it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
I really don't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Yeah, very frustrating. I'll try to read more about that though,
to see if there is an explanation for it. We
have a writing question from Kathy. Please help try as
I might. I can't understand why the strait of horror
moves put us into a war and why the end
of the war is contingent on that. Do we trust
that if it's open the war will end? A I

(01:11:24):
love questions like that. We need to have Daisy back
for another one of those no stupid questions thing because
it really is. It's Straight of Horror Moves. It's this
narrow body of water. You've heard about the Gulf, the
Gulf War, the Persian Gulf. It's that inlet of water
in the Middle East, and all those countries that have
a ton of oil, the oil they have is mostly
right below that Gulf, either on the land or in

(01:11:46):
the water. So that's Kuwait, United Air Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain,
Saudi Arabia, it's all there, and they pump out the oil,
they pump out the gas, and the easiest way to
ship it is you put it on a boat and
it goes through the Strait of Horror Moves. The problem
with it is one half of the Strait of Horror
Moves is Iran, and they have rockets, they have missiles,
they have boats, fewer than they used to because we've

(01:12:09):
been actively taking those out. But they threaten, Oh, if
ships are trying to go through this strait while we're
in conflict with the United States, we're going to fire
on them. And it's not fully clear if they have
the capacity to sink a lot of those ships or
damage them, but there's enough of a threat that well,
if you're on one of those boats, do you want
to try running it? And so they've tried to use

(01:12:31):
this straight as their weapon in this war. They're thinking
the United States is going to say uncle because oil
prices get too high before we crumble, because our economy
is a mess, because all of our weapons have been
blown up, because our government is brutally unpopular, we think
that the Trump administration is going to back out. That's
why the Strait is so important and why you do

(01:12:53):
have to reopen it as part of some deal. Ultimately,
President Trump wants commerce to be happening, he wants oil
to be flowing through the Straight, he wants the world
to be functioning again, and he's not going to let
whatever conclusion he reaches, he's not going to allow the
government in Iran to just hold the entire world hostage.
Alex any thoughts on.

Speaker 6 (01:13:11):
That, Yeah, quickly, this is their one move.

Speaker 12 (01:13:14):
I mean, we've decimated their navy and their air force,
so their one move is to leverage the Strait because
they can do it with really unsophisticated weaponry, with just
some basic drones, the inny ship, missiles, mines, and then
they can cause a lot of problems. I think twenty
percent of the world's oil flows through that straight and
any sort of disruption of the oil market is going
to have gas prices going up in America. It's going

(01:13:35):
to create all these terrible news cycles you see in
America where they act like Trump's a horrible person, a
horrible leader, and that puts a lot of pressure on
Trump to wrap up the war. It's Iron's best move
they could make, and they made it and it's having
an impact.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
We have one minute. I want to get a couple
more of these emals. Thank you for that questions. I
was fun with a question where I get to nerd
out a little bit, but I want to close with
a few more emails about how people got to know
Charlie fourteen years of Turning Point Today, Alexis says, I've
been following Charlie since around twenty eighteen, when I was fifteen.
In a lot of ways, I grew up listening to Charlie.
I was blessed to listen to his words of wisdom

(01:14:08):
for years, and through his show and the work of TPUSA,
I learned so much about faith, American history, citizenship, and
what makes America such a great country. Congratulations on fourteen years.
Thank you for continuing the mission. Go Max. Thank you
so much, Alexis. And then Ali says, Charlie Kirk walked
like he talked. He did the hard things so we

(01:14:29):
didn't have to going to correct that. Ali. He did
the hard things so he could show us how to
do them. Because now we carry on his mission. Here's
to another fourteen years and more of turning Point. Thank
you for joining us, alex Thanks to everyone who sent
in emails. We'll see you on Monday, and tune in
to watch the Women's Leadership Summit.

Speaker 12 (01:14:52):
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