MAHA in Big Ag + AMA 268

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Speaker 5 (01:17):
All right, well, welcome to the studio. We are so
honored to have the United States Secretary of Agriculture here,
Brooke Rawlins, welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Thank you. I'm feeling a little overwhelmed right now, as
you and I talked about before, I first met Charlie
when he was eighteen. Oh yeah, we kind of grew up.
I'm honestly older, but kind of grew up in the
movement together. So this is a sort of full circle.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
Well, you know, I totally relate to that.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
When I first came into this studio after everything that happened,
it was overwhelming for me basically for the first like
couple months, and I had to like, you know, I
had a job to do, and I had to sort
of act like I was comfortable and I but you know, now.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
It's actually comforting. It's weird.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
I come in here, I see his chair, I see Jesus,
you know, beautiful presence for her dad and his hat
and beautiful he's yeah, and it actually brings me like comfort.
So I get like, I try and relate to that
as we have guests in the studio, and I know
it can be overwhelming, but it's kind of just beautiful
just to see all these reminders of him too.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
So it is, and I tell you that the work
has to continue, and I just I feel, I feel
his spirit. I'm so grateful to y'all. I'm grateful to
Erica for being such a warrior for the country, but
for him and his legacy, for his children. So to
be a very small part of that is a real honor.

(02:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
The work must continue.

Speaker 7 (02:43):
You might remember the first time he ran into him,
he got to be he had to be an insane
go get her at eighteen, can you I only met
him when he was.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Twenty nine or thirty.

Speaker 7 (02:52):
Everyone I thought I ran into him. I just thought,
this guy is high intensity. He's always done anything.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, and Andrew and everyone else are telling me, oh,
he's massive, chilled out. He used to be far far
more intense.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well, let me let me we have time for the
quick story.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
So at that point, let's see, I'm probably I'm just thirty.
I'm probably a little more than twenty years older than him,
But I always felt more like a big sister. And uh,
and so he was just starting turning point and we
kept hearing about it. I was building the Texas Public
Policy Foundation in Texas really kind of the first of
its kind, idea that I didn't even know what a

(03:26):
think tank was. But what I knew is I'd been
Rick Perry's policy director and general counsel in my late twenties,
and what I knew is that every day, all day,
I would get lobbyist after lobbyist after lobbyists in conservative Texas,
and it was never about doing what was right. It
was never about we're cutting taxes because it's for freedom,
or we're not going to regulate because we want to
return power to the people. It was just here's what

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I need. I'm like, where's where's the lobbyist for freedom?
Like I don't understand? So I left Rick Perry's office
after a couple of years. It was a great experience.
I hit twenty nine, maybe maybe thirty, and someone came
to me with this idea of the Texas Public Policy Foundation,
and I think because I had been on the inside,
I fully understand stood. I couldn't have articulated it then,

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but I fully understood the opportunity to go in and
to really make a difference in my state and just
representing freedom like that was it, So I said, okay,
so kind of that's where it started. So when Charlie
came on the scene, I don't know how. For many
years later, ten maybe fifteen, he of course, I think,
somehow ended up in Texas to raise money for this

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new concept from this new kid, and so all the
people that he would go to and he'd get the meetings.
I don't know how, but he'd get the meetings, and
then they would tell him go talk to Brook like
she's kind of a little bit ahead of you, and
go talk to Brook and you're wanting to build this thing.
She's now built this pretty massive thing in Texas, but
we want to see kind of how y'all can work together,

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what she thinks, etc. And so that's how we first met,
was at eighteen nineteen year old Charlie building turning point,
coming to Texas, sitting down, and then of course we
became really good friends.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
I remember talking to him about you, and the way
he would talk about you was always so like the
big sister thing. It really it's apt because I remember
it was always like there was a level of comfort.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
When it came to brook On Carlbrook, you know.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah, And by the way, like, so Charlie ends up
creating Turning Point and building it into this machine. And
now you're in the administration, you're a cabinet official. So
I figured that's where we should start. Well, we started
with the story, which is actually better. But this was
just from yesterday or two days ago. If you're watching
this live, so forty nine.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
The US Department of Agriculture, we've canceled three hundred thousand
dollars contract educating on food justice for queer and transgender
farmers in San Francisco. A similar contract we canceled in
New York again educating transgender and queer farmers on food
justice and food equality. I'm not even sure what that means,
but apparently the last administration wanted to put our taxpayer

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dollars towards that. We canceled a six hundred thousand dollars
contract out of Louisiana that was studying the menstrual cycles
of transgender men, a six hundred thousand dollars contract. We
canceled another contract out of a university in the middle
of the country that focused on getting more diversity, equity,
and inclusion into our pest management industry. Again, these are nonsensical.

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It makes zero sense to use taxpayer dollars to fund these.
I know these are just a few examples of the
hundreds in the hundreds that we have found.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
Well believe cloud Show.

Speaker 7 (06:31):
I looked that up and it's so funny because it
just captures the moment so well where I guess the
actual study was like, we're gonna see how feminine hygiene products,
whether some are healthy or unhealthy. But then, of course
it was happening in peak woke, so they had to
go and especially for the trans men who need to
use these, you had to throw this into every single

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grant application.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yes, just got a vaporize. You just have to say
that stuff.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
But when you're saying it out loud, it's the most obnoxious, obscene, absurd, ridiculous,
Like you just said those sentences.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Yes, TV, I do.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
What is even a BIPOC former me in San Francisco.

Speaker 7 (07:12):
I'm so like to this cabinet meeting and send it
back to nineteen seventy five and so anyone can.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Tell what you're talking about.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
This is obscene stuff.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
And I'm I mean, I'm proud of you and the
job you're doing, but I'm also really embarrassed for you
that you had to say that, right.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Well, and you're your a professional, dignified woman.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
I'm talking about queer, bipoc, transgender mice and men in
control and the president and to the President of the
United States in the cabinet room. It was so bad, y'all.
And just last week we just got a court ruling
down USDA. Under the Biden, USDA actually prioritized grants and
loans based on the color of your skin. How do

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how you were illegal, illegal, illegal, canceling all of that.
It's just is and I feel like we're still just
at the tip of the spear. I mean Snap fraud,
the foods Okay.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Cross, That's what I'm going to get into here, because
I have a list here of these fraud initiatives that
you're leading you. Okay, so twenty three state waivers. You've
gotten twenty three states to sign on basically restricting junk
food purchases with SNAP. Eight are already implementing. That's really
good you. This one blows my mind. You have exposed

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three billion dollars in snap fraud across twenty eight states
and with national losses projected at over six billion dollars, and.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
By the way, those are the Red states. Think about
the Blue states.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
That's a whole other ed and they're just like not
playing ball.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
The Blue states are not playing ball states.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
We need to bend them to our will. This shouldn't
be okay, you have to play ball. Can we stop
the funding? Can we stop sending them? I mean, I
know it's a big political hot potato because it's like
Snap benefits or whatever. We'll find play by the rules
and we'll give the people that need it the money.
This this is bananas. One hundred and eighty six thousand
dead people, we're still collecting Snap benefits and more than

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three hundred and fifty five thousand cases of people illegally
double dipping.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yes, and these are in the Red states. This is
that we have. We don't even have California's data or
New York states.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
It'll be quadrupled. How did this happen since President Trump
took office? Four point three million fewer people you say Americans,
but we'll say fewer people are off Snap. How are
we doing that?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well? A couple of different things. First, I think this
focus on the fraud has moved a lot of the
fake people off of Snap. But I also think and
this is the dream, right, the wages are increasing, there's
more people working now than ever before. This is supposed
to be the supplemental nutrition assistance program. It's only supposed
to last for a certain amount of time for people
that truly truly needed. It had become a year round

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welfare program everywhere qualified and a way of.

Speaker 7 (09:50):
Life icket with its SNAP with disability payments exactly what
we expanded during COVID.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
We're now acquiring work requirements, so you unless you have,
you know, a young child, you are required to look
for a job or actually go find a job before
you can get these these So we've changed the whole
game on the SNAP program and across the whole administration.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
And then I mean you combine that with russ vote
coming out just today, he's overhauling a trillion dollars with
a federal grants mandating e verify. I have no idea
how that will overlap with what you're doing at USDA, but.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
It's it's all good. It's amazing, it's all good.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
And you know, no more DEI nonsense, and you know,
performance based reviews things can get.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
You can actually end things, which is amazing.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
So this is a really big story that I don't
think a lot of people are are yet talking about.
And I want to make sure people are taking note
of it, and that is you are. You have this
the Great American Cotton Plan, which people do not respect,
how big our cotton industry is and how under assault
it is.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
So I love that you're doing this.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
I think we have some graphics here we can throw
up as you're talking about it.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
What's going on here?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Well, first of all, what I realized a year and
a half ago when I very unexpectedly ended up in
this job, this was not on my big go card.
Was not expecting it. The President made an announcement, and
off to the races we went. My background is agriculture.
I grew up on a farm. I studied agriculture in
college at Texas A and M. But I had been
doing really all policy in all those years, in building

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policy organizations alongside Charlie. So this was unexpected.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
What I we were not a policy organization. We're not
think tank. We're battle tank.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, I love it. Well, I would say we're battle
tank too, but part of the movement. As we're building
the movement, changing hearts, and minds. But the point we'll taken.
What I will say is I knew it was bad.
I knew agriculture was was was in real tough shape.
Big ag foreign adversaries buying farmland. The consolidation of our
food supply chain by foreign owned companies is insane. How

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it happened, it still blows my mind, but we're hundred
percent so today in Arizona we announced as part of
that the Great American Cotton Plan for really the first
cotton plant we planted in six ten seven in a
Virginia settlement, our American Revolutionaries war cotton when George Washington

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was battling the Brits. This goes back to the very
beginning and even before the beginning of our country. But
what has happened over the last we'll say decade or
so is the foreign fake synthetic material has become so
prolific and so cheap that we have begun been moving
away from Great American cotton for years. And then Joe Biden,

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of course, took his eye off the ball. Do you
realize under Joe Biden's watch, we lost our market in soybeans,
we lost our market in corn, We lost our market
in beef and then they took over. We used to
be the greatest exporter in the world of cotton. Brazil
took that over in twenty twenty two. This is national
security level implications. This isn't just good for the farmers
and we want good cotton. If we begin to rely

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on these other countries for food, for fiber, for fuel,
we lose our country. So today we announced a big,
big plan to take it back. And it's part of
the MAHA movement too.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
I was going to say, hold on.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Alex Clark, New Year coming on, and she said, ask
if this means, and we have this grab at the
USDA is finally promoting natural fibers, yes, over petroleum based synthetics.
So she took note of this from the MAHA standpoint.
She said, ask if this means the FDA might look
into the laws about what chemicals are allowed in clothes
that haven't been updated since nineteen four. She's saying, the

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laws about what chemicals were put in our clothes haven't
been updated since the forties.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Since the forties. It's it is you look at this,
it's FDA. But from my perspective, this administration, our cabinet
is very unique and that we all sort of roll
into each other's lanes. I mean, you've seen this with
me and Bobby Kennedy for a year and a half now,
I mean, who knew he was going to be my
number one partner in all things? But he talks about, Hey,
I waived, you know, I granted twenty three states waivers.

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They can't sell junk food anymore under SNAP And I'm like, Bobby,
that was actually USDA, but I'm very glad you take
all the credit for that. It doesn't matter to me.
And so even though that is FDA, this will now
be one of my top priority is digging in and
understanding it. Mother of four children, I couldn't agree more
with Alex's focus on what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
I'm saying, she's saying, I've been hearing from so many
moms that they are really into clean clothing. Seems like
we're on the brink of another big movement.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
We are, so is this.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
But this could actually help cotton farmers, presumably, right, So
if you start banning some of these petroleum based synthetics,
if they're bad for people, correct, this would open up
market space for cotton.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Farm That's exactly right, And for the first time in
one hundred years, Cotton begins to do this instead of
doing this as we've offshored so much to the bad guys.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Frankly, we've got just a couple of minutes left here
in this segment with you. What is the most important
thing that this real America's voice audience watching live needs
to know about what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
There are a lot of really important things. I mentioned
national security. That's probably the most existential issue. But from
my perspective, the biggest legacy issue is the work to
make America healthy again. And I think a lot of
people would be like, well, wait a minute, that's more
Bobby I said, no, no, no. The only way we
make America healthy again is by putting real food, which
comes from real farmers, back at the center of every conversation,

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of every policy decision. USDA spends four hundred million dollars
every day. Just let that soak in every day on
just sixteen nutrition programs, school lunches, the Snap program, the
Whig Program, etc. Imagine the market moving power just in
that alone, right, the dietary guidelines. Yes, we want people
eating real food. We want to open the aperture for
young farmers to get in and grow lettuce and sell

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to the local school. But the opportunity to really change
the trajectory of the nation under the health you know,
putting farmers in real food back into the center of
every piece of policy making changes the game forever for
our country.

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the issue that I've heard most about, and I know
this you brought it up though you work with Secretary

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Kennedy a lot over at HHS every day. But is
this issue and but I know you work with the
epas well, that's right, and Lee Zelden over there. So
this issue of glypha sate to the extent that it
overlaps with you, there's been the allegations are they vary,
but it's basically like the ADMIN has given, you know,

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a legal blank check essentially the immunity or something or
working towards us for the Glypa sate and chemical manufacturers
at the expense of kind of what MAHA wants. And Kennedy,
Secretary Kennedy's come out against glypha sate. The farmers seem
to like it, right, So what is the truth?

Speaker 6 (17:56):
What is fiction? Separate truth from fiction?

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Here are we giving immunity to glaphytate manufacturers? How does
that impact your goals at MAHA? How does that impact
HHS goals at MAHA.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
You know, I think Bobby has talked about this in
a way that is really focused on You can't pull
a crop protection tool like glypha sate and just go
on as normal. It is decades, whether right or wrong,
it is decades of use that has underscored, underwritten, and

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provided America's farmers and ranchers to become the bread basket
for the world. So if you are to just pull
the rug tomorrow and say sorry, no more glaphy sate,
right or wrong again? You know, EPA has now for
decades approved it, said it's not harmful if used correctly.
The EU uses it. It's actually one of the few
things that the EU has approved. They disapprove almost everything

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that is one that has been approved. Again for right
or wrong. I think the questions are real. Who's funding
the studies? Have they been updated? I mean, those are
all really important questions, but the studies we have to
date would say that used correctly, it has not proven
to be detrimental if used correctly. Having said all of that,
the way Bobby has questioned it, I don't disagree with.
We have to have an off ramp and a forward

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leaning plan that allows us to rely more heavily on
technology on AI potentially to use as pesticide. So you
can't believe the technology that's out there today. There are
drones that can do one fly over a say, a
five hundred acre field of corn, and can within half

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a second send the information back to the farmer and
back to the tractor and say, oh, actually where a
crop protected or a pesticide may be necessary is in
this one corner on row fifty seven at cornstock six.
And so instead of just blasting the whole field, you
can go in and really focus on where it's needed,

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whether it's glaphysate, something organic or not.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
That's how it's always been.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
I believe, like even with a lot of the glypa
state harms, it's because people are using it at home
and they're really overdoing it. They're not professionals, they don't
know exactly how much they need and this seems like
an even more extreme cases.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Well listen, I mean, my instincts say, probably the world
we like, we'd probably have better overall health if we
weren't using glyphysate.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
That's my general instinct here.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
But I'm I also find the argument compelling that you
can't rug pool the entire agg industry overnight. I mean,
the shock would be dramatic and prices tried that.

Speaker 7 (20:38):
Sri Lanka did a ban on glyphys and everything else overnight,
and food prices went up fifty percent in one year, I.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Mean, and the leaders of the country, literally the president
had to flee the country.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
They fled the country. So that's very compelling argument. But
I love this idea of an off ramp and so
so it kind of brings up this larger issue of tech.
So one of my big pet peeves, and I mentioned
this too briefly in the green room before you came on,
is this whole I mean, I'm very aware that the
president is being hounded by big AG, big hospitality. We

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need foreign workers, we need foreign workers, we need foreign workers.
And he's a businessman and he wants the business and
the economy to be rip roaring.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
I get it. So it's attention.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
I believe that there should be a more concerted effort
from the federal government to implement tech in robotics to
pick crops so that we don't have to have so
many seasonal workers, so we don't have to have illegal
immigrants coming over the border and transforming our country, which,
by the way, is not just a crop problem or
as food price problem. It's a DMV problem, a school's problem,

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a hospital problem, it's a traffic on the roads problem,
it's a housing problem.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
So it's all connected.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
So what can you tell me about how you guys
are focused at the USDA to address the robotics issue.
Is there a moon shot that we can get where
we help with the capital expenditures to implement robotics or
to train up farmers, local farmers, even big, big agg
on how to implement this technology more successfully.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, there are a couple of different things. First of all,
the USDA is a massive bmuth of an agency. The
budget is astounding. A lot of it is food stamps
and the welfare programs, but a lot of it is
land grant research investments and into these sorts of opportunities.
But as in all things, the private sector. This is

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where a lot of the guys in Silicon Valley have
now pivoted to is agriculture and the idea that we
can do what you're talking about. We're already seeing it
in the dairy industry. If you were to go on MVP.
Dairy is one of my favorite. I think they have
a lot five thousand, maybe mama cows on milk. Those
cows they walk out to the pasture, they have their
fun time. When they're ready to be milked, they kind

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of know in their head.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Well they have physical pain, Yes, you do it, that's right.
So they're motivated that they walk back in.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
They literally walk into a stall, the technology hooks up.
There's no worker, the technology hooks up. They get on
a carousel. It's actually amazing. Y'all need to look this up.
They zoom around on their carousel, they eat their alfalfa,
they eat their food, then they finish. After one round,
they back back off, they go back out to the pasture.
It's completely self regulated. Thousands of dairy cattle. So the

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technology is incredible.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
The same thing I've seen robotics that go through these
crop rows and they'll pick that's right. That's a quicker
then you know some you know, no offense, but like
some you know Guatemalan that came over the border illegally,
they're actually going quicker, more efficiently, and you don't have
all these knock on downstream social impacts, school impacts, DMV impacts.

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So but if I'm a farmer and I'm thinking, okay,
I get it. I'm maga through and through a voter
Trump three times, and I want to be supportive of
my culture. But I can't afford the local at least
not not everybody for harvesteasonn' I can't afford all Americans
or whatever break the bank. I need to get some
of these seasonal workers. I really am drawn to robotics.

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I want to try this. Maybe I can save some
money that I'm thinking the main barriers are capital expenditure, learning.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
Just you know, that's a farmer. You're up from sun
up to sundown.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
You're in the average farmers fifty eight years old.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
Yeah, so how are you going to tea teach an
old farmer new tricks?

Speaker 4 (24:20):
That's right?

Speaker 5 (24:20):
So, like, how do we bridge the knowledge gap, the
capital expenditure gap, because a lot of these guys are
barely hanging on right, And you know about this, I
know it's near in due to your heart. We have
so many farmers that are folding up in closing up shop,
so that seems to be and I'm not talking.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
About Big AGG, although Big AGG should.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Be the first one that is forced to adopt this
stuff or at least incentivized strongly. So like, how do
we bridge that gap? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:43):
There there is a really important opportunity to meet this
moment in American history. Everything you have just described is
a formula that allows us to really run at full
speed toward real significant change. A USDA and an HHS
and an FDA and a small business, you know, the

(25:05):
small business Kelly Leftwarers now started investing a bunch of
money in ag technology. Another conversation for another time. But
we've offshored all of our fertilizer for the last thirty years,
so we're relying on China and Russia for fertilizer now
in the same well, that's exactly right. We're now about
to break ground on what will be the largest ammonia
plant in the world in Louisiana in about a month,
so we're solving for that too. But the investment, first

(25:28):
of all deregulating, which would allow our private sector. These
Silicon Valley guys David Friedberg and others who are all
in on agriculture and they see that as the next
big frontier on how to fix that while at the
same time making sure USDA instead of spending money on
transgender men, you know the minstrel cycles, which you talked
about at the top of our conversation, we're now spending
money and investing on this sort of investment. It would

(25:51):
be great if Congress wanted to lean in. And you know,
we're shrinking government. I think our federal government is now
the same size as it was.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
But this is really important to spend money.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
If the ROI means that we don't have the need
for ten million illegals the next time a Democrat takes
us exactly, Okay, like we got to cut off the
incentive structure. Half of this is if the farms don't
need the labor, they're gonna come over the border and yeah,
they'll get restaurant work, they'll get hospitality work.

Speaker 6 (26:16):
Again, this is all assuming a Democrats.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
In office, but the farms won't need them, and that
cuts off a huge, huge incentive.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
And we already said that happening with other jobs they
would fill that. We brought in hundreds of thousands of
truck drivers and now we're right clearly on the brink
of having a ton of self driving vehicles.

Speaker 8 (26:31):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
So we're going to create this permanent underclass that people
can't get jobs for a job that doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, no, I agree with you one hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
We'll go one snap and they'll go on snap.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Yeah, and then we'll have to kick them off that too,
when we find out the front. Okay, you mentioned China
and Brazil as as let's just say, foes in the
agriculture space or competitors. What are they doing that's so
insidious and what are we doing to fight back?

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Well, we can start with farmland. China in nineteen eighty
three owned about two thousand acres of our American farmland.
Today they own almost two hundred thousand acres of our
American farmland. They purchased Syngenta, which is basically there's no
other purveyor of seeds and some of the other crop
protected in the world. How did this happen to Smithfield?

(27:18):
They purchased, which was the largest pork company in America,
in the world, but in America that basically controls about
a fifth of our pork in America now owned by
the Chinese. Brazil with our meat processing, we have a
beef price issue today in America, but part of that
is because only four companies control about eighty five percent
of the processing of our beef. Two of those are

(27:40):
Brazilian owned. One of those is JBS, and I will
call them out. I continue to do so. They are
a company that has faced nineteen hundred indictments in Brazil
for corruption. They are basically have child slave labor accusations.
It's a couple of billionaires and it is a massive issue,
and they keep taking our market share. I know I

(28:02):
mentioned Brazil's taking soybean, corn, now cotton and beef. These
are really really big national sup.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Pressure from President Trump to on the taraf front on
beef so that we lower beef prices.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
What's your position on that.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
I mean, I understand you've got you've got a boss,
but I mean that is a tension though, right, I mean,
the ranchers are probably hearing that going it is.

Speaker 9 (28:24):
It's a it is.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
The President is very focused on affordability and Obviously, we're
all understand that's probably the top issue for the midterms.
All other food prices have come down, Beef has not.
Because we're at a cattle herd low of seventy five years,
primarily because the left waged war on ranchers and cattlemen
say it caused climate change. Climate change took away grazing,

(28:47):
a lotments, et cetera. Exactly, there are a lot there
are other reasons to drow on some other things, but
it's a worldwide This.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Is for ta Rico.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
He's like, we have a moral obligation to get rid
of meat.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
We're gonna do the vegan thing.

Speaker 7 (28:58):
Well, literally crazy, I mean, it be kind of true
that this will probably just solve itself eventually.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
A lot of us is just you gotta wait for
the cows to be born.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
You have to wait for the cows to be born.
And then also, not surprisingly, you have to ensure you're
protecting and upholding what the ranchers need to do.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
Just that.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
So, on the one hand, you've got the beef price issue,
and we're importing beef already, but how do you bring
that price down? And how much? I mean, it's six
fifty six seventy a pounds of beef, trying to get
that back down to normal prices, which is five fifty
five dollars. The good news is on like fuel, there
are other sources of protein, so it's not like families
are starving because.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
They can't afford six to fifty.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
You could relieve some pressure in the short term, but
in long term, we got to keep our eyes on
our own range and we have to incident.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
It's a national security issue, it really is. So that's
what we're really working to do. The flip side, and
this is good news for the long term. Tough for
the short term is with make America healthy again. Everyone's
eating more beef and they want They're willing to pay
for it. So it's a supplying demand.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
I want, baby, that's right, I want. You know, I'm
a red blooded American mail I had a lot of beef.
I need beef. Some of my kids just love being
Oh yeah no.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
And everyone's eating more beef, and so that's.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
Been a dot com.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Are they supporters? I love those guys.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
That bends amazing.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, product of the USA. For the first time, we
two months ago said you can no longer you can
sell in America. But you can't say you're a product
of the USA unless you're born, sold good. I was
gonna ask harvested, processed here, whereas others if it was
one of the five, they could stick on a USA.
So we're incentivizing our ranchers to build their herds.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
You're getting you're going after fraud, you're encouraging maha. We're
getting rid of synthetics, we're promoting cotton. Well, we're not
getting rid of synthetics. We're create a marketplace where cotton wins.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Yes, and we.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
Should review some of the synthetics because yes, and then
we're also protecting our home, our home home perf right
with the ranchers and the farmers here.

Speaker 6 (30:52):
But it seems like you're checking all the boxes.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Can we do one more that I think your audience
will love?

Speaker 6 (30:57):
Absolutely so?

Speaker 4 (30:58):
The law fair piece of this is real. Obviously, the
weaponization of government, we've all seen it, Charlotte, you guys,
I the President certainly more than anyone. But what a
lot of people don't know is that our farmers and ranchers,
with the Democrats at every level federal, state, local, have
been under assault, whether it's using emminent domain to take
There was one hundred and seventy five year old farm

(31:19):
in New Jersey, sixth generation Andy Henry. The city of
I think it was Cranberry, New Jersey, tried to take
their land, take it after trying to buy it and
they said no, to try to take their land to
build affordable housing. This is one hundred and seventy five
year old farm before the Civil War. In Arizona.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
I just two nights about that housing because we imported
seventy five million.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
People under the country since ninety Get this.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
There is a ranch I just posted about a couple
of days ago, the Casey Murphy Ranch. And here in
Arizona where the State of Arizona is trying to take
to put solar panels on, not try to buy, not
try to say can we work with you, but to
take his ranch, his six ranch to put solar panels on. Yes, yes,

(32:05):
it is one thing that's happening.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
It's such a sturge. It doesn't even look nice. Oh,
it's awful.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
They're China, a.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Big, beautiful farm, beautiful ranch. Yes, and then you replace
it with a frigging soul and it's intermittent.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
It doesn't even work. You can't power a country on
solar or wind like. It is really massively problematic for
so many reasons. But the law fair against our farmers
and ranchers is real.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
So many farm an annual basis. Well, is it slowed yet.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
It's it's beginning to slow. We've been losing tens of
thousands on a yearly basis, but we are working. That's
the other good thing about MAHA is that it incentivizes
first generation or second generation have fifty herd of cattle,
slaughter them, support and sell just to the local school
or just to the local hospital. We've got a whole

(32:51):
young farmer project that allows them to do that. Had
two brothers in Albuquerque, New Mexico, in the desert who
got together wanted to become farmers. Dad's a doctor, mom's
a professor. They now grow after ten years, two hundred
fifty thousand leads of organic lettuce on three acres in
the desert. They employ six people, legal workers, and they
have made a life on three acres two hundred and

(33:13):
fifty thousand head of lettuce. It is the most righteous
heiding it.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
How do people plug into this stuff? They want to
see how you could help them. Where do they go.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
They go to USDA dot gov. There are so many programs.
It's a little bit, you know, challenging from a conservative
free market perspective, but these programs are so.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
Important to good righteously now.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
And I exactly imagine what it must have been like
day one where you open the hood at USDA and
saw the woke and the corruption and the fraud and
the waste.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
It must have been just shocked.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
On day one we canceled nine hundred, not nine, not
ninety nine hundred DEI trainings just at USDA. Nine hundred
were we.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
Were so things were way worse than I think people realize, and.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
We all knew it was bad. And I've been at
this a really long time. No idea how truly corrupt
and horrible it is. I know we started the conversation
on snap. What we found in just the Red States
is enough to make anyone weep. What we will find
in the Blue states when we finally get our hands
on that data.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
How are we going to get it?

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Well, we're in litigation right now. The next step is
to cut the funding and then we have a real conversation.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
Good, So I think we should go hard.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
I agree, and the President really agrees with that too,
which is the good news.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Well, Brooke, I know you got to run. It's been
wonderful having this conversation. People do not fully appreciate all
that goes on in our government and especially at USDA,
So thank you for a little peak behind the curtain here.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
Really fascinating.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
I feel like we have and are honoring our friend
Charlie's legacy. And this was what he dreamed for, what
he worked for his whole life, his young life, but
his whole life, and it's coming to fruition.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
And he's a big reason that folks like you get
a chance.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
That's exactly right, I would argue, maybe the biggest reason.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
So yeah, well, God bless you and thank you for
coming in and visiting us.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Thank you anytime.

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Speaker 6 (36:46):
All right, it's time for Mark Halpern to join the show.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
He's the editor in chief of two Way TV and
next up on the Megan Kelly Network. Mark, great to
see you. We have reports now that President Trump has
been rush to the situation room. I don't know if
that's just headlines trying to get clicks, but he is
in the situation room reviewing the peace terms and the
framework of a potential piece deal with Iran. First question

(37:14):
is are you hopeful this can actually get done? And
if it can, what are the implications.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I'm hopeful in the sense that I hope it happens.
I'm skeptical in the sense that it's hard for me
to see the deal that the President's just outlined on
truth social being agreed to by the Iranians. I've thought
for a while that the words coming out of their
mouth and a piece of paper saying they're giving up
their nuclear program would be a bridge too far for
them under the current circumstances where they don't seem cow

(37:42):
and I would caution people that if the President does
say I met with my team or signing the deal,
even if Aron says they're signing the deal too. Although
it would be a big step for them to acknowledge
a commitment to get rid of the nuclear program, it's
going to be hard to get that done, particularly when
one of the first items in the deal is opening
up the Straight which is great for the American economy

(38:03):
and the American driver, but also takes that economic pressure
off of Ron. So I'm skeptical that the deal actually
will be agreed to by both sides. But that happens,
we're all gonna have to watch to see whether Iran
will continue to negotiate the terms of the specifics on
nuclear and good faith, and history suggests we should all
be skeptical about that.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
I mean, I think that's a really good point of
caution here, Mark, because it is a step by step process.
It's sort of like, hey, we're going to take one
step of good faith forward. If you meet us there,
we're going to take another one, and another one and
another one. But if you don't, then the stick is waiting.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Right.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
We can we can blockade the straight again. We could
even use kinetic military force again. We can roll this
all the way back to the start of the process.
So I do agree with you. That being said, I
have been told, sources have told me that what's changed
about this is that the moderates seem ascendant. The hardliners

(39:00):
seem like they're getting more and more isolated. That could change.
It's not that the hardliners are gone. And the other
thing is that they actually are willing for the first
time talking about concessions on nuclear talking about okay, okay,
we'll stop, we won't pursue this, and we'll create a
plan for you guys to actually get the dust right.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
Well, but we've I feel like we've been around the
block on this a few times where it's it's the
moderate rebels the moderate extremists. We've seen that in Syria,
we've seen that in Libya. Certainly, Mark, I think you've
probably you've probably been around the block on hopes in
the in the Middle East a few times, and you
might have some experience on how that tends to pan
out well.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Historically in Middle East generally is you suggest like and
specifically Iran. It hasn't worked that great, but I think
one of the encouraging things in the way the President
has framed the deal, and we'll see in the actual
document if that's the case. If Iran is not getting
financial concessions up front, they're not getting any sort of
unfreezing of assets, they're not getting sanctions taken off, they're

(39:56):
simply being allowed to trade oil, which probably would involve
some st ancients being taken off, but specifically for that purpose,
then I think the pressure can remain on them. And
the present and some of his advisors have dreamed from
the beginning that the way to solve this is to
get Iran and into the community of Nations to cross
with For a time they were calling the Golden Bridge.

(40:16):
So you're right to be skeptical about the Middle East.
We're all right to be skeptical about Iran. But this
is the present who struck the deal between Israel and Daza.
That deal has been stalled out, but between that and
the Abraham Accords, he's been made more forward progress in
the region than any of his recent predecessors, and so
maybe this will be a deal that the Iranians can

(40:38):
be coaxed into and maybe if the so called moderates
are ascended, there can be the kind of economic connection
that really is the key for a lot of folks
to say, you can ever deal with Iran and good
faith as long as the religious extremists are in charge.
But maybe this can change things if their economy is
offered kind of a tie up with the US.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
Well, let's talk incentives here, then, Mark, because a lot
of times deals get done when the incentives align.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
All right, So Iron's.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
Got these wells that if they have to shut them
off because they run out of storage, you might not
ever be able to turn them back on, right, Okay,
that's a huge incentive. Even if you're a hardliner, and
even if you sort of don't care about your own people,
that is something to consider. It's a huge pressure point.
So they're incentivized to at least open the straight back up.
Whether or not they'll actually play ball in the nuclear

(41:27):
we don't know, all right. And that's the one thing
I'm a little bit skeptical with this deal, is like, Okay,
why don't you let us have the nuclear then we'll
open the straight I kind of want the points reverse. Secondly, though,
politically here at home, we have to be realists about
the political incentives. If we get gas under three dollars
on average across the country again heading into November, that's
a huge boon to the president and to the economy.

(41:50):
Those things seem to be in alignment. Do you think
that's enough to push this to the president's signing it?
You know what I mean, It's like he's got to
be a realist about this. Are you here hearing that
he's as concerned about that as maybe I am?

Speaker 6 (42:02):
Or you might be.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
No, I mean, the order of operations is exactly what
you said, but not only for the reasons you said,
which is getting the nuclear done some people think will
take many months and some people think will take years. Okay,
that's a much different timetable than the President needs to
be on both politically and economically for reopening the Straight.
So this is why you're going to hear skepticism, including

(42:26):
from some neocons and from some independent analysts, which is
to say, opening the Straight has benefits for both sides.
There's been a paradox that I think held up a deal.
Both sides want the Straight open long term, but short term.
Opening the straight is a disadvantage for both sides. Iran
gives up its leverage over the present regarding gas prices
in the midterms, and the President gives up leverage over

(42:47):
Iran for what you said, which is now they're the
pressure on them if to not have to shut down
their oil facilities and do permanent damage goes away. So
this is a sign of trust, a sign of good faith.
Of course, even if they agree to it, one one
drone or one attack on one ship can make a
big difference. There's lots of questions in the oil industry
and the shipping industry about even if they agree today,

(43:10):
how soon insurers and captains can get moving again to
move ships through and how soon that will impact prices.
But the nuclear piece is just very complicated. And that's
assuming that Iran is operating in some level of good faith,
which the Vice President said last night. They are operating
currently in good faith. I'd be great if they do.

(43:31):
But even if they want to get this done, it's
going to be a complicated process. And that again assumes
that the hardliners don't reassert their power over the process.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Yeah, and I think it's again all this caution is
super warranted. I'm not trying to be glass at full
rose colored glasses. I'm simply saying politically, getting this deal
done makes all the sense in the world if it
can be done right. In the caution, Yeah, in the
caution that you're mentioning, Mark here about you know, we're
not sure if the chain of command is being followed,

(44:05):
you know, strictly in an essentialized way in Iran. You
could have factions that are controlling different parts of the
IRGC or the Revolutionary Guard, right, and they could spring
an attack on one of these vessels completely outside of
the chain of the command that has been established in
this framework, and then what do you do.

Speaker 6 (44:22):
So there's lots of questions remaining.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yeah, yeah, Look, you're right about two things for sure
that emphasized.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
One is.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
These ships aren't going to just go through. They're going
to need to be safe. And just saying the blockades
off and Iran is gonna let free passage go doesn't
help the insurers get insurance in place, doesn't reassure the
captains and crews, and doesn't keep a rogue element in
Iran from striking. And we don't know what would happen
in that instance. The other thing is, look, if the

(44:51):
deal is anything like what the President said on Truth
Social good for him because this is exceeds my expectations
from a few hours ago about what the best possible
deal would be for him and for the United States
politically and geopolitically to get the process going. Because the
status quo was untenable for the president, it was untenable
politically and geopolitically diplomatically, He needed a change. And this

(45:15):
is under the circumstances. Again, if the President's outline is correct,
this exceeds what I thought was possible under the current circumstances.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Well, and I think it could be legacy building certainly,
but also this political the political ramifications are extremely huge. Blake,
you have a question. I know we only got a
minute a half left. We could take it on the
other side of too well.

Speaker 7 (45:36):
I think another topic that's been taking up a lot
of attention to Washington and online, but we haven't talked
about it much on this show, and it's causing a
rift between the President and Republicans in Congress, is this
effort to get an anti weaponization fund going via the courts. Obviously,
we know President Trump faced a lot of legal attacks.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
A lot of his allies faced a lot of legal attacks,
and they've tried to engineer this.

Speaker 7 (46:03):
I think it's about one point seven one point eight
billion dollar fund for people who say that they have
been the target of weaponized law air from the DOJ
in the past. The President is hoping to get this.
Republicans are pretty skeptical. Obviously. Democrats are saying it's completely
beyond the pale. As of this moment, a federal judge

(46:24):
is holding it up. But I thought, maybe going on
the other side, Mark, if you have thoughts on the
overall situation of him attempting to get this, is it
as unprecedented as it looks, and is it going to
be the sort of thing that becomes a distraction over
the course of this summer.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Like if your excellent summary and narrative of the situation
left that one key fact, which is it's not just
Democrats who object to this. A lot of Republicans object
to it too, including Republican senators who are now holding
up the president's a desired reconciliation package to fund homeland
security because they don't want any part of this. And
sometimes in an election year with an unpopular president, and

(47:03):
the president's pull numbers are currently not good. You see
objections that are based on politics, and there's no doubt
that Republican senators in the main think the politics of
this are bad, but they also don't like the substance
of it. For the reason you suggested this is not
normal what was done here. It would take a while
to explain all the reasons that are not normal. Have
presidents controlled money before and doled it out to their cronies, Sure,

(47:25):
but the nature of how this came about and the
nature of what it is is politically toxic. Again, not
in the view of democrats only, not in the view
of reporters, but in the view of a lot of Republicans.
And so whatever the disposition of it is in the courts,
and as you said, a district court judges held it up,
there'll certainly be appeals. I don't believe this thing will
ever happen in anything like the form it's in. I

(47:48):
believe Republican senators are going to make the President either
significantly change it or kill it.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
Mark, I have to ask you about this.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
I'm sort of convinced there's not a whole lot of
significance here, but I do find it interesting that Jill
Biden is now trying to set the record straight on
the infamous debate night. You know, she gets up on
stage and said, you answered all the questions, Joe, which
was probably untrue. But she's now admitting that she was worried.

(48:18):
Did he have a stroke? Was he drugged?

Speaker 6 (48:20):
You know? Was he sabotaged?

Speaker 7 (48:22):
Which sounds equally implausible to me, to be honest, because
she had to see him every single day.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
He was never like oh god, she says, are they
going to think that he was always like this? Jill,
We have news for you. He was always like this,
and we saw it with our own two eyes.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Your thoughts, Mark, I think the biggest thing that was
revealed is the Bidens don't have c SPAN, because if
they did, Jill Biden would have seen this. I find
this whole thing really troubling. It's a fun story, and
I know I predicted you guys would ask me about
it because it's fun and it's interesting, But they're two
fundamental things. Jill Biden's job is to protect her family,
protect her husband, So her lying about this, I just

(48:59):
I chalk it up to whatever. But it's troubling that
she had an opportunity not to respond to the heat
of the moment, but to write a book to think
about what she wanted history to think her view of
this was. And obviously she didn't think her husband was
on drugs or having a stroke, or she would have
done something differently on the night of the debate. So
I find that all just kind of annoying. What I

(49:20):
continue to be more troubled by is the dominant media's
reaction to this is, oh, my goodness, look what Jill
Biden is saying, and then say what doesn't make sense
because right after the debate she said he did such
a good job. No, the reaction should be, you know what,
now's time for us to come clean on the role
we played in the cover up, because anyone who looked
at that night and was surprised, or as Jill Biden said,

(49:43):
oh my god, he must be having a stroke. If
that was the product of a stroke, then the guy
had strokes on a regular basis for seven years and
he's a medical miracle for having lived through it. So
I mean, to me, that's just depressing to once again
watch the media be like, oh, we're figuring it out now.
We caught Jill Biden in a lie. She obviously didn't
think he was having a stroke. No, it's an opportunity

(50:04):
to say, once again, we failed you, the American people.
We should have told you this sooner. But obviously Jill
Biden's not telling the truth. And obviously we didn't tell
you the truth because we act surprised on Debate Night two.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
And you're right, and we should come clean, not just
for moral reasons, but we really went through something incredibly
dicey with that.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
Which is, yeah, we don't who was actually the.

Speaker 7 (50:25):
President nine In twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, President
Trump has raised the question did President Biden's pardons Was
he actually aware of that all of them at any point?
Whereas policies were his executive orders? Were they actually routing
through the president or through this small cabal of people
who had access to him? And I think we actually

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do need to get to the bottom of that or
it raises serious questions about the nature of our system.
Even if you it's not just President Trump's jokes about
having the auto signature machine in the Rose Garden, it
really raises concerns about our system.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Amen, And it raises questions about the people around the president,
the cabinet, the senior white hot staff, his family. It
raises questions about the president himself. And I'll say again
what I said at the time. Joe Biden was not
as far gone as his critics said, but he was
not as with it as his defenders said. And people
in that state have good days and bad days, and

(51:25):
he had some good days. He had good days. So
you look at the state of the Union. He gave
that the year of the presidential race. He had good days.
But it also I go back to the media. It
raises questions about the media, about the American Medical Association,
about members of Congress. All these members of Congress say, now, oh, privately,
I saw how bad he was, or I had no idea.

(51:47):
I'm sick of people being asked, did you have any idea?
Of course they had an idea, because they all have
c span so unlike the Bidens. And so it's troubling
about the whole system, not just that we had a
commander chief in place who obviously couldn't do the job
and was inclined to run again, but about the entire
society's failure to say, the emperor has no clothes. You

(52:10):
know the Emperor has no clothes is a is a
great parable and it's often used. I can't think of
a more apt moment to use it. We all saw
the president was naked. We all saw it.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
And yet, with.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Few exceptions, conservative media being one of them, me being another,
no one would say it. Even the congressman from a
Minnesota whose name I always forget, who ran for president briefly,
even he pulled his punches, he wasn't totally honest about
what was happening. And then yet, you know, every other

(52:41):
member of Congress, and then only because he was a
threat to the party's chances in the in the election
down ballot. Only then did Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer
and others speak out. Not because they said, oh my god,
we're yeah, oh my god, we're endangering the health and
safety of America. No, we spoke They spoke out because,
oh my god, we could lose to Donald Trump, and
down ballot candidates could lose too. It's a it's just

(53:04):
a horrible, horrible failure of accountability across the board.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
Well, and Mark, I will just tell you we had
Brooke Rawlins in studio yesterday and we played the the
interview earlier. When you hear their stories, not just what
we shared on the show, because you know, they come
in and we greet them and has it gone and
they're telling us, like when we got under the hood here,
the amount of fraud, mismanagement and comp it was like

(53:28):
a bunch of kids running around with no you know,
teacher around Like I'm telling you under the Biden And
obviously some of that is filtered through a political lens.
I'm biased, I admit it, but it's crazy how much
fraud was going on, how much grift was going on.
And listen, I get that that's always sort of baked
into the cake politically, but it's shocking. And when you

(53:48):
hear stories like this, and when you look back at
the four years of Biden, you realize just how uh
you know the country was not being run. Well, I
think that's fair to say, Mark, I know you gotta
I got you gotta art here.

Speaker 6 (54:00):
So I'll let you go.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
But thank you for making the time this morning, and
we appreciate it as always, my friend.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Thanks guys, great to see you both looking forward pleasing.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
All right, So a big busy hour where you've got
our eyes on President Trump and this Iranian peace deal. Listen,
whatever you make of it. If you want to see
regime change, you want to see I get it. But
this is a good deal if we can get it done.
And so all eyes are on Iran, because all eyes
will then be on the US where they should be.

(54:29):
All right, if you want to be focused domestically, if
you want to be focused on the mid terms, you
want this deal done. Okay, So pray for peace, Pray
for President Trump. Pray that the right people would rise
to the occasion in Iran and they would come to
the four and that the hardliners would be pushed out,
the naysayers would be pushed out on both sides. By
the way, on our side as well, we want peace,

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every week, Blake, we have some question go viral? Good
or for ill?

Speaker 6 (56:34):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (56:35):
This week we have Daisy with us, the one and
only Daisy who takes care of us here. Yes, she
did have a baby, and yes the baby is exceptionally cute.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
And I'm like a tough babies.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Phase of baby that like maximal cute phase you talk about.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
It's a I'm a tough grader with babies. If I
don't think your baby's cute, I probably just won't say anything.

Speaker 6 (56:54):
You know, Daisy's baby's pretty cute.

Speaker 8 (56:56):
Thank you. I appreciate it. Unfortunately, none of these people
will ever he see what she looks like. But she
is very cute.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
Wow, exactly. So we're gonna keep the susher reps. But
that's all right. We are we got to ask us anything.
So we have a first caller. Do we have it ready?

Speaker 8 (57:11):
Jonathan is first.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
Jonathan, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Please unmute yourself.
Hey it goes well, it's Friday, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (57:21):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Have a few questions here.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
First, Uh, is there gonna be a Student Action Summit
this year?

Speaker 10 (57:28):
No?

Speaker 6 (57:29):
Good question.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
We actually do Student Action Summit every other year, so
that people don't know that, and I don't know it's
come up before in private conversations, but it's an every
other year thing. So this year just happens to be
our off year. We're doing Women's Leadership Summit in what
just next week?

Speaker 6 (57:45):
Right?

Speaker 8 (57:45):
Yes, San ANTONIOO.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
So that's the summer programming this year, but it will
be back next year and never fear.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Okay, good.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Can you sell tickets for us to get lunch dinner
with some of the speakers at the invest.

Speaker 6 (57:58):
Man that'll be interest.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
Some of them.

Speaker 5 (58:03):
Yeah, what's that, like a like a VIP thing or something. Yeah,
maybe raffle or or some sort of say that again, like.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Some extra ticket we can buy to get lunch dinner
with some of the speakers.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
You know, I kind of love I kind of love
this idea. Let let me kick it around.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
Some speakers obviously would be more willing to do such
things than others.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
But that's a fun idea. I like that.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
We've done in the past, We've done a lot of
like win roundtables with speakers where you have, but we
like film conversations with them, right, and I think that
I think that a lot of them would be willing
to go.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
I was gonna saying we filmed it, Would you be
less inclined to participate in something like that or more inclined?

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I really wanted to be that.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
Oh cool, See there you go.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
That's always interesting to kind of hear your take on it, uh,
the audience's take on it, if that's something they'd want.
Some people maybe want more privacy. I don't know, but
I think that'd be really fun.

Speaker 6 (58:57):
Uh. Let me kick it around with the team and
we'll see we can do.

Speaker 8 (59:00):
Who are you hoping to have a ampest this year?
Who would you want? Who would you want to get
lunch a dinner with U?

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Probably Tucker Carlson and uh officer.

Speaker 6 (59:09):
Katum, Officer Tatum.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Oh wow, that's quite the spectrum you got there. Blake
used to Blake knows Tucker very well.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
He's very personable at dinner.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
He's a very charming lad. Whatever you think I mean.
I know Tucker's made a lot of news for some
of his hies and interviews probably continue to make he
is a remarkably charismatic and charming individual in person.

Speaker 8 (59:32):
I can tell you if you hear it throughout the
wherever you are exactly.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
I probably it's I think it's like trademarked at this point.
Do you have any other questions, Jonathan?

Speaker 6 (59:44):
Is there any other big rhinos we're looking to defeat.

Speaker 7 (59:46):
This year that rhinos we need to defeat? Well, the
big one we really want to take out. You're thinking
the same guy as me, the Lady Graham, Lindsey Graham
of South Carolina. He's kind of the white whale of rhinos.
He survives every reelection.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
Bid.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
I think we've tried to take him out two or
three times at this point, but it's like a cockroach
of Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
He's very difficult to bring down.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Yeah, I think listen, if Lady Graham went away, that
would be great. I mean, and just a note of
you know, optimism and positivity. Right, we have all these
priorities that we want to get past that we can't
because of this sixty vote threshold in the Senate. But
if you think about it, and really you need about
fifty plus one with JD to nuke the filibuster. But

(01:00:26):
we can't get there because we don't have enough votes.
But think about Tillis is going away, probably replaced by
a Democrat, so that's not super helpful, but at least
he's going away.

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
He's a thorn in our side.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
You've got now, you've got Cassidy in Louisiana he lost
his primary. Cornyn he lost his primary. So these are
good developments and the Senate is getting better and better.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
I want to keep your eyes on Mike Mike Rogers, No, no,
Mike Collins. I was mixing two names together, and then
Rogers and that's in Georgia and then Rogers in Michigan.
Those are two races that I am watching very very closely.
So we gotta get rid of us off now. The
odds are not in our favor because it's tough to
take down an incumbent. George is basically a fifty to

(01:01:08):
fifty state right now. But that's a race that I
would love to have Sam with Michigan. So we're keeping
our eyes on those races. And you know what we've
seen though. Another thing that we should mention is what
happened in Indiana. You know that was that was a
state level state senators that have gotten the way of redistricting,
and we took out all the rhinos there. So it
is it is prime rhino season, rhino hunting season, and

(01:01:31):
we got to keep our eye on that. And it
just I again to encourage the audience. We're getting better
and better and better both at the House level and
in the Senate level.

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
So and we would be remiss to not talk about
Tyler mentioned we really want people to travel here in October.
Do we want to go into that a little more.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
Yeah, go to tpaction dot com. You can volunteer. We're
actually hiring right now. I think we had a class
of thirty two new ballot chasers here in the office
yesterday training up to become ballot chasers here in Arizona.
We're also doing bowot chasing in Nevada. I w'en doing
bollot chasing in New Hampshire. So three states you can
actually get full time work in. But if you can't
do that and you want to volunteer some time, we're

(01:02:09):
gonna be doing huge, huge groups of volunteers. We'll train
you up, we'll put you in the field, we'll give
you a hotel room, and you get to go be
a ballot chaser for a couple of weeks a month
during election month that we now unfortunately have.

Speaker 8 (01:02:21):
I actually remember a couple. I think it was in
twenty twenty four. There was a couple who called in
and they were members. They called on Ama and they
were asking Charlie a question. But they told him about
how they were coming to HQ to be ballot chasers
from California, and Charlie was like, you have to come
to the studio. Comes out. It was there. I think
they're twenty year anniversary when they came, and so they

(01:02:44):
they got to come not only be balllot chasers, but
they also had an amazing Charlie gave them the tour
of the studio.

Speaker 11 (01:02:49):
It was.

Speaker 8 (01:02:49):
They were so sweet.

Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
I actually had one of them.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
One of the ballot chasers came by yesterday that DM
me and said, Hey, I'm gonna be training for bow chasing.

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
Can I come? Say?

Speaker 12 (01:02:59):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (01:02:59):
Said of course, so you never know what happened.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Yes, she was in the studio yesterday. Come be a
ballot chaser in Arizona or New Hampshire or Nevada and
help us win the midterms. All right, next question, we've
got who is it is it David, Yes, David, Welcome
to the Charlie Kirkshow please um mute yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Hi. How are we doing today?

Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
I'm doing great? How about you, sir?

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Good?

Speaker 6 (01:03:21):
I'm doing okay.

Speaker 9 (01:03:23):
My question is.

Speaker 11 (01:03:26):
We're in California. What do you think about, uh, the
veteran who lost his life.

Speaker 6 (01:03:35):
With the Trump flags? Yeah, and.

Speaker 11 (01:03:39):
When we as conservatives a kind of swing back and
we run into violence because I see you guys, you
guys do.

Speaker 6 (01:03:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
Well, we just had a report yesterday of somebody who's
arrested in San Antonio for making threats against Erica Kirk
in our event. We've been monitoring that very clear. I
want to assure you, so if you saw those news reports,
please know, uh, we we have every confidence that that
event is going to be extraordinarily safe. We've got great
security precautions in place, monitoring all the threats as we

(01:04:13):
always do. We've got great partners in law enforcement federally
and locally.

Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
So all that is good.

Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
But yeah, I mean, it's it's an unfortunate reality of
our daily life that we have to be aware of
crazy people doing crazy things, whether they're motivated from bad
actors or online or just political disagreements. There is no
doubt that the left is getting more and more violent
in the rise of assassination culture is ever present. David
has asked about this incident that happened in southern California

(01:04:42):
where a veteran who was sort of known, it turns
out in the neighborhood for what they called the Trump House.
So yeah, lots of flags out, was very proud about
a support of the president, pro Trump house, big pro
Trump house.

Speaker 7 (01:04:53):
He got assaulted by an individual suspect, the suspect also
about they've been reporting on that fellow.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
He appears.

Speaker 7 (01:05:04):
The suspect is Thomas Caleb Butler yep, and he apparently
had a history of violence, including towards his own family.
I'm sure Jack Pisobik would make much of the fact
that there's a photo of him wearing a Star.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Wars Sure that picture, that's the one that's going around.
And he played with legos apparently, so he was a
big Lego guy and a big Star Wars guy.

Speaker 6 (01:05:25):
I don't know that there's any connection to those things.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Jack was calling for a boycott of Star Wars, so
he likes that fact. I don't see any necessary connection
to it. But he was he had a long history
of mental health problems. And the other thing that's interesting
about the story, and why I'm not jumping to conclusions,
why I'm not tweeting out a storm about it, is
that apparently it's been reported that he liked the Trump
House and was positive about the Trump House at some point,

(01:05:50):
and that he also was more on the conservative side,
at least historically. Now, the interesting part here is that
he the wife, I guess the victim's wife, tried to intervene,
he started hurling abuse at her, shouting at her, and
called her a pedophile or a pedophile protector, one of

(01:06:11):
the two. So that makes me think it's all some
sort of like Epstein brainwarp things.

Speaker 7 (01:06:17):
It could be, and a lot of these people, there's
just a lot of very troubled people.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
And that's why we talk more generally, why it's so.

Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
Irresponsible what a lot of leaders in this country have
done when we talked about this with Ice. For example,
when if Democrats or Republicans, but if individ if politicians
go out and say our leaders are the equivalent of Nazis,
ices the Gestapo, they're trying to do a new Holocaust.

(01:06:44):
This Epstein class, they're abducting children and they're cannibalizing them.
Some of the insane stuff they've said. They know that
they're not being literal. A lot of people know they're
not being literal, but especially vulnerable individuals will take that
a lot more literally. We've seen that with the transgender
motivated shooters. That seems to have played a role in

(01:07:06):
tragically what happened to Charlie. That these people hear these
things that if we don't want to mutilate kids, that
means we're perpetrating a genocide. And when you say that
to unstable people, they will think, well, I don't like genocide.
I need to stop the genocide. I'm going to pick
up a gun and use it.

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:07:21):
And we absolutely need to call out all rhetoric of
that nature because it can destroy this country. As for
ourselves as individuals, as always, there's no substitute for just
being ready and being prepared yourself. In Red States, you're
allowed to I'm highly armed. Yeah, have you're allowed to
have guns in your home. You should have guns in

(01:07:41):
your home because in the end, get yeah, the cops
want the cops wind not get there, or I've you know,
I used to not have a gun. And what changed
my mind was when the Floyd riots happened in Minneapolis
and the police pulled out of downtown Minneapolis and they
just ditch it, and they like a few blocks just
get burned down. People lost their homes, lost their business,

(01:08:03):
and the cops just didn't show up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
They gave up, they abandoned it. And I thought to myself.

Speaker 7 (01:08:07):
I thought to myself, I will never be caught in
a situation where I am helpless because the police have
abandoned me.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
Period.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
And that's a good mentality to have.

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
Well, Mike's a big fan of the rooftop Koreans.

Speaker 7 (01:08:21):
Rooftop Koreans, you know, it's not that you it's not
that we despise the police. It's not that we want
to get rid of police. But we have to remember
that the left does like to get rid of police.
The left does like to create anarchy and to unleash
mobs on people. And sometimes the only person who can
stand up to a mob and protect your family is yourself.

Speaker 8 (01:08:37):
Well, I will just say we already were armed in
our home, but ever since bringing home our baby, I'm like,
we have to have ready for any situation. If anyone
were to come into my house, I know they would
not be okay. My husband would not tolerate that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
He is a Taylor Swift fan, but she is based.
Don't let that fool we exist. Elizabeth, You're up next.
Mute yourself.

Speaker 10 (01:09:02):
Yes, Hi, everybody?

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
How are you todays? Elizabeth? How are you well?

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:09:08):
The reason that I was calling is.

Speaker 10 (01:09:13):
The judge Diana Hagen in Utah stepped down on May eighth.
She was credibly accused of having an affair with lead
Council David Raymond. They were working on the redistricting case
and we lost the seat to Democrats in that. And
also I had questions about parkin Writer Vhocal where they

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we did the primaries in August just for the congressional seats.
So my first one is with the Utah case, that's
obvious corruption. Can we get that overturn based on the
fact that she was having an affair with the lead
council and the Harkeneder Vhocal case, they found that the
original congressional seats were wrong and they had to redo them.

(01:09:55):
And so if they did a second primary in August
just for the congressional seats, could that be something that
we could do in other states.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
So I've heard about this Utah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
Yeah, that's very interesting, and that is all true what
you said that the judge did end up resigning in
the you know, their governor Cox and a lot of
other state level leaders, I think even Mike Lee have
called for an independent investigation. But I am being told
credibly that no, we cannot overturn the current core ordered
congressional redistricting map for twenty twenty six. I don't know

(01:10:27):
if that's a legal issue or a timing issue. You
could expect that those will get redone for twenty twenty eight, though,
and so it's too late for twenty twenty six for
whatever reason. I will poke some holes in that and
see that. But that's what I've been told, because when
I saw that news come out, I instantly candidly fired
off text messages to everybody in Utah that I knew
and asked, can we can we get this overturned?

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
And they said it's too.

Speaker 9 (01:10:49):
Late, disarred?

Speaker 6 (01:10:51):
Could she be disbarred?

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
And the lawyer, yeah, I mean it's absolutely depends on
Utah state process.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
Yeah, it's probably going through the process.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
That's why they wanted the independent investigation probably to come
up with some findings that they could then leverage to
exact some justice and accountability there. Yeah, it actually in
a state like Utah, would have some faith that it
would actually.

Speaker 7 (01:11:09):
Get Yeah, and even if I can't overturn it directly,
it's possible that they'll It seems like they're going to
possibly just repopulate the Supreme Court change their Supreme Court
rules to get a new result if they can bring
it before it again.

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Speaker 6 (01:13:44):
This was from Mick, he said.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
I asked about how conservatives have struggled with having cultural
icons until very recently. This week, several artists dropped out
of performing at the America two fifty Festival.

Speaker 6 (01:13:54):
I think they call the American State Fair.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
Yeah, state Fair, and many of those names were from yesteryear.
With your experience hosting the All American halftime Show, can
you give some insight advice to those planning an event
like that and keeping the artists on board. Okay, this
is a really big topic right now on social media.

Speaker 6 (01:14:11):
So it looks like Martina.

Speaker 8 (01:14:12):
McBride and Brett Michaels, Brett Michaels, Commodorus, Morris Day, Young MC,
and Martina McBride have all dropped out so far, Flow
Rider and Vanilla Ice are still in. Oh boy, you're
interested in those Ice baby.

Speaker 6 (01:14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
So my take on this is very simple, as we
did host the All American halftime show. But I will
tell you it was hard. It was really hard. Lining
up the artist was hard. We would get a yes
from some artists and then their managers would get involved
and they were like, don't go up against the big
bad football league, and they don't want that because it

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could cause them problems down the line. So you have
to kind of respect that you have to work with
the artists that you can work with. And I'll see
it again, Kid Rock has my undying support. I'm a
huge fan now because he just had the guts to
do it and not many people do have the guts
to do it. Now when it comes to this State Fair.
What really is appalling to me, as to your point,

(01:15:11):
is that a lot of these guys are washed up,
has been stars from yesteryear's and we're still getting the
run around from them.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
They're still telling us, oh, I can't get mine. I
thought this was nonpartisan and all this stuff. Well it is.

Speaker 5 (01:15:21):
It's a celebration of the country, you idiots, And so
we shouldn't have to be prostrating ourselves as conservatives before
the altar of pop culture to like throw us your crumbs.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Please, please please.

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
What we should do is it should be a celebration
of Americana. I don't care if the artists are famous.
Give me banjo players, give me bluegrass, like.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Just get not famous performance.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
That's what I'm saying. No, I don't see these guys.

Speaker 7 (01:15:44):
I don't think you need to get star power for
something like this. I think, honestly there's probably a lot
of criminally underrated and underappreciated people, especially Yeah, you mentioned
banjo players. You can probably find a virtuoso banjo player,
fiddle player, someone just stuff that's very associated with classic America,
and you could probably get them, put them up there
and they'll just kill it and everyone will think that

(01:16:06):
was awesome, that was really cool. I don't usually see
something like that versus getting these guys out.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
But it's been part of.

Speaker 7 (01:16:12):
The struggle with the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, and
we got put in a tough spot. One of the
things that we got stuck with is they started America
two fifty a decade ago to prep for this, but
then the lead up to this was we had four
years of Biden during the George Floyd era. They staffed
it full of people who they're like, you know what,
two hundred and fifty years of America should be a
chance to do. Let's celebrate white guilt. Let's talk about

(01:16:34):
how America is bad and everyone should feel really bad.
So they created this Freedom two fifty thing to very
accelerated try to make fun stuff people would actually like,
like the big State Fair. They're doing that IndyCar race
in DC. Yeah, the UFC's more fun stuff that really
vibes with the American public. But it's short notice. They
have less money than they really deserve to have.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
It's a bummer.

Speaker 7 (01:16:58):
I talked to my parents about what the Bice Centennial
was like in nineteen seventy six, and they said it
was like it was the fourth of July all year long,
just in the little touches that really stood out. My
dad remembered that they painted the fire hydrants in his
town the American flag to mark the bi centennial.

Speaker 8 (01:17:14):
Well, I think that I have two things. One I
would love to know you talked about how this started
under a different administration. If that was the situation we're
dealing with, and they were posed to hoist host to
America to fifty, freedom to fifty, I wonder who would
line up to celebrate there, because it's not even like
they are wanting to celebrate America. It's a lot about
we want to change America. We don't like the way

(01:17:36):
America is negative, negative, negative, So I wonder who would
even want to be there celebrating two fifty years of America.
It'd probably be at a festival of crying liberal tears.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
That could get an invocation.

Speaker 8 (01:17:48):
The only white people can succeed in this kind.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
We could get a benediction from Reverend right and they
could do all.

Speaker 8 (01:17:52):
It'd probably be more of a reprimation reprimate What word
am I saying? Reprimand yes, then it would be a celebration.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
Yeah, So that was not we dodged able.

Speaker 7 (01:18:01):
I think whatever issues we have, one of the things,
and Charlie was very excited about this. Was that we
were having the World Cup, We're having the two and
fiftieth anniversary, We're having the Olympics. It's a big run
of big America pageantry celebration and it would have just
been excruciating to have Kamala Harris as president for all
three of those things.

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
And we should say just really quick quickly. You know,
Spin magazine seems to be the starting point for a
lot of this controversy. They called it a Trump sort
of aligned event or Trump backed event. It's not, to
Blake's point, this is a commission that's been put together
that has liberals on, it has democrats on, it has
conservatives on it, right, and these were lower tiered people.
Here's what I would say. I am not going to

(01:18:43):
any of these name me all the acts that dropped.

Speaker 8 (01:18:45):
Out, Brett Michaels, Martina McBride, loser they Martina, I know
one of HER's back in the day, the Common Doors losers,
I'm sorry, Morris Day and young MC users.

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
I will never not that I really do, to be
perfectly honest, but if you are a fan of these people,
stop supporting their music. Absolute cowardice, moral cowards. This is
an event for the whole country. It's supposed to bring
people together. Instead, you've used it as an opportunity to
humiliate the country and embarrass everyone up yours. That's my
personal opinion, but yeah, that's my big take. Screw trying

(01:19:23):
to get in tight with these like has beens, of
these stars of yes year. No, we're not going to
be told what to do by you losers. Okay, get
some people that celebrate the country. Get I don't care
what it is like. Get line dancing, Get banjo players, bluegrass,
get jazz performers, get anybody that will do it, and
just celebrate great music. Get great, great music. We don't

(01:19:45):
care if we know your name. This it needs to
be about America, not about these losers. That's my opinion.

Speaker 8 (01:19:49):
Well, think about it's called the Great American State Fair.
There's so much more to a state fair than just
like they might have a concert at night, but there's
it's about being together.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
It's about food.

Speaker 8 (01:19:58):
Yes, it's about family, fun, being outside just traditions. There's
so much more to it.

Speaker 7 (01:20:05):
It's so last minute, but this is a nimble administration.
They should do some sort of great American Deep Fry Competition.
What is the best food you can deep fry?

Speaker 6 (01:20:14):
Deep fried? Better deep deep?

Speaker 7 (01:20:19):
You've seen deep fried hot dogs, but we need like
deep fry an entire hamburger. With all of that, I'm
sure I'm deep fry deep fry egx Benedict deep fry.

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
I don't know what it is. Anyways, that's my take
and I'm sticking to it. I literally have nothing but loath,
loathing and condemnation for the cowards that are embarrassing the country.
But you know what, moving on, moving on, we have
an America to celebrate, and this is still the greatest
country in the history of the planet Earth. And I
don't care that these people think we're systemically oppressive. They're

(01:20:53):
They're wrong, they're illiterates, they're historically inaccurate, they don't know
what they're talking about. So that's my that's my spiel.

Speaker 8 (01:21:00):
Who we got next, we have Maddie.

Speaker 5 (01:21:01):
Maddie Welcome to the Charlie kirschhup. Please um mute yourself, Maddie.

Speaker 8 (01:21:05):
Hi, I actually have two questions, if that's okay. Yeah, sure,
So I'm actually going.

Speaker 11 (01:21:11):
To WLS next week.

Speaker 6 (01:21:13):
Wait.

Speaker 8 (01:21:13):
I was just curious if you knew if there's going
to be any Bible study or like worship event something
like that. Yeah, so I will be there. I'll see
you there. I said earlier that none of these people
will see my baby. If you're at WLS, you might
because she'll be with me. It's a girl's event, so
the first one I have to bring.

Speaker 6 (01:21:31):
Her at this event. There are so many babies.

Speaker 8 (01:21:34):
That's what I was like, this is the perfect conference
to bring her to. It's so many moms, kids, friends,
It's so sweet to just see everyone getting along together.
But yes, there will be worship on Sunday morning and
faith based speakers on Sunday. I think, honestly, I'm really excited.
I'm also not only bringing my baby. I'm bringing my
mom because I was like, Mom, I have to work,

(01:21:55):
so you can take my baby and enjoy the enjoy
the conference. But you know, we have Erica, Kaylee mcnaaney,
Judge Shanine, Alex Clark, Alibi Stucky, Riley Gaines, Dana Losch,
Savannah cris Leye, Kristen Hawkins, so many more, and it
is so fun. Is this your first time?

Speaker 11 (01:22:13):
It'll actually be my second.

Speaker 8 (01:22:15):
Okay, Okay, well I think it's I really am happy
with the way the event is going. This the direction. Yeah,
it's it's really holistic, empowered, redeemed. I think that's the slogan,
and it's really being able to see the way that
WLS is kind of transformed over the years. And I've
been watching all of Charlie's speeches back the last couple

(01:22:36):
of weeks leading up to WLS and just seeing all
the different topics that he covered and how the event
has transformed. I'm really excited. I think it'll be great.

Speaker 5 (01:22:44):
Yep, it's gonna be great. She had a second question, right, yep, Yeah,
what's your second question.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
I'm just curious, do you think women voters are going
to hurt the Republican Party more than usual in the midterms.

Speaker 7 (01:22:55):
Just with how many men I know staying home instead
of voting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
I mean, it's definitely tough.

Speaker 7 (01:23:01):
This is this is the thing Charlie always struggled about
Fought four. He pointed out women are more likely to
just they're good at checking boxes, they're good at fulfilling
obligations compared to men, and one of those obligations is voting.
So young women are more likely to vote. And we
also know they're more likely to vote Democrat. In fact,
as much as hey we've made of young men turning

(01:23:23):
to the right, a lot of it is young men
have moved five points to the right, and young women
in some elections they've moved ten, fifteen, twenty five points
to left. If you're an unmarried young woman, they're very
left wing. A lot of them still vote, and it
could definitely be a hazard.

Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
Well, and yeah, to Blake's point, they vote more often,
more more reliably, and they vote more and more left,
and they've gotten more and more radical.

Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
So yeah, it is a problem.

Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
It's a definite problem, and I think it's doubly compounded
because a lot of young men, if you look between
Epstein and what's happened in Iran, they're giving in denihilism.
And that's part of our job here is to say,
don't give into the black pilling and the domerism. Don't
do that, young men. Things are progressing in many ways,
and this administration is head and shoulders above what Kamala

(01:24:11):
would have been. So don't give into the black pilling,
stay the course, keep the faith. This country is worth
fighting for. So we need the men to show up
because the women probably will. And that's the sad reality
of it, and they're getting more and more radicalized. I'm
telling you one of the reasons I love WLS is
because it's not a feminist celebration conference. There's some some
haters online that'll call it that. It's not that at all.

(01:24:33):
It's like, how do I be a better mother? How
do I raise my kids? How do I be more godly?
And that's it, and how do we be more healthy
as a country. It's beautiful things. So anyways, come to
what WLS. Check it out. It's going to be very,
very worthwhile women to step up, all right. Next up,
we have oh wait, I wanted to.

Speaker 8 (01:24:52):
Really quickly WLS question the WLS. We have some really
really cute hats and shirts.

Speaker 6 (01:24:58):
That are going launching new merch.

Speaker 8 (01:25:00):
There's going to be some WLS exclusive merch there, but
we will have this hot there Godfamily Country and Forever Kirk.
Those are both on charliekirkstore dot com. And if you're
not gonna be WS you can still get one. They
are really they're well made, such nice quality. We literally
just got the boxes in my office like ten minutes ago.

Speaker 5 (01:25:20):
So so if you're well WLS you can get these,
but you can also get them at Charliekirkstore dot com.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
Charliekirkstore dot com. Right, I got the r O right.

Speaker 5 (01:25:30):
Charliekirkstore dot com. Mighty, all the work she can handle.
She'll be getting those orders out to you all very soon. Yes,
so check it out all right? Uh, Rain, you are
on the Charlie Kirk Show. Please ummute yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:25:42):
Welcome.

Speaker 9 (01:25:43):
Hey, I'm so happy you'll called on me. Okay, do
y'all remember me?

Speaker 12 (01:25:48):
I'm the one that had the bracelet after the Charliekirk memorial.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
Yes, yes, it's good to hear from you again, Rain, Yes.

Speaker 12 (01:25:55):
Hey, okay, So I can't believe mask in this question,
but I want to get involved so badly.

Speaker 9 (01:26:01):
I want to help y'all with ballot chasing.

Speaker 6 (01:26:04):
Great, So what are the.

Speaker 9 (01:26:06):
Prerequisites or what is the criteria? Like?

Speaker 12 (01:26:10):
Okay, so I have an emotional support animal, a little
cavalier King Charles Spaniel by the day, by the way,
So like, would it be okay if like I brought
my mom to the hotel room with Charlie.

Speaker 6 (01:26:24):
Are you talking about volunteer? I do.

Speaker 9 (01:26:27):
I want to stay as long as I can.

Speaker 12 (01:26:29):
I just don't want to be away from from him,
and I would bring my mom with me. I mean
we would drive from Baton Rouge from Louisiana.

Speaker 9 (01:26:37):
I want to help. I want to get involved very badly.

Speaker 6 (01:26:41):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
So, yeah, we're going to be doing our volunteer efforts,
probably starting in September October time period. Would you want
to come to Arizona is that kind of what you're thinking?

Speaker 6 (01:26:53):
Or New Hampshire probably.

Speaker 9 (01:26:55):
With y'all over there in Arizona.

Speaker 8 (01:26:58):
Your dog will love October for Arizona weather.

Speaker 6 (01:27:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:27:01):
So if you just go to the tpaction dot com website,
they have they have a fill out the sign up
form here. Yeah, tpaction dot com. Maybe our team, our
crack team in the studio can put tpaction dot com
there and you just click that.

Speaker 6 (01:27:19):
Yep. Tpaction dot Com.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
There's a kind of a Hamburger menu bar in the
upper right hand corner.

Speaker 6 (01:27:25):
Just click get.

Speaker 9 (01:27:25):
Involved, upper right get involved.

Speaker 5 (01:27:29):
Okay, Yeah, and it has a little sign up form
and so what are you interested in?

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
The options?

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
And I'm gonna read all the options just for those listening,
all the things that you can get involved in. Become
a precinct leader, join a TP Action coalition. So we
have like a mom's coalition, a rancher's coalition, farmer's coalition,
Hispanic coalition, all those kinds of things. You could attend
a turning point action event, becoming a pole watcher, joining
Younger Republicans Club, getting involved with the county GOP, knocking
doors for local candidates, become a precinct registered to vote,

(01:27:57):
become a precinct chair, all these things.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
So you just help, y'all. Yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (01:28:06):
You could do any of those, but probably knocking doors.
It would be the box that you would check. And
then we'll get you in our our volunteer pipeline. And
then when we're ready to get you in a hotel
room and get you out. And yes, you could probably
bring your I mean, I haven't checked with Tyler yet.
I'm sure we've had this.

Speaker 8 (01:28:22):
No, Tyler said, yes, they're encouraged, friends, families, babies, dogs, Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
So we'll take you all and yep. So Tpaction dot Com.
It's right there on the screen. You can get involved.
And so that is the same for Rain, but it's
the same for all of you watching. We know that
there is tens of thousands of you watching all over
the country. Get involved today, go to tpaction dot com
help us win, And just a note here, I love

(01:28:48):
your spirit Rain. It's so encouraging because if you log
online sometimes you get a bunch of the black pail
Blake types and you get the people that are, you know,
the country's last and.

Speaker 6 (01:28:58):
Blake's looking at right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:29:00):
But here's the thing here.

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
I was asked this question in interview yesterday and and
it bears repeating. The question was, you know, how do
you filter through the noise online? And I would just
simply suggest to you this. You know the tree by
its fruits, you know who's doing good work, because they
want to build this country up. They want to fight
for this country. They want to actually contribute to good things.

(01:29:22):
They want to get out in the field and knocked doors.
They want to send text messages, they want to send postcards.
All of these things are tremendously important because if you're building,
if you're working towards something, you're part of the solution.
So be part of the solution. Do not give into
the nihilism, do not give into the dooming, do not
give into the black pilling. That is one of my
repeat messages here. You do not fight because you know
you're gonna win. You fight because it's the right thing

(01:29:44):
to do.

Speaker 6 (01:29:44):
So thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:29:44):
Right, all right, real quick, we have one one last
question from Sam.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
We're going to read it.

Speaker 7 (01:29:49):
I am a college student, and many students I know
hate the current administration. They blame them for covering up Epstein,
and they seem to forget the Biden administration held onto
those files and did nothing for years. How can the
administra and the Republicans message better on this topic. That's
a very tough question because it's on We only have
a minute, and it is unfair. President Trump has released
a huge number of files, vastly more than any administration

(01:30:13):
did before. You can read incredibly embarrassing emails involving the
former president of Harvard, involving Elon Musk, involving Les Wester.
They've actually a lot of people have been humiliated, some
people have lost their jobs. There's been a lot of
transparency on this, and we know certainly that the president
himself is not involved in anything untoward because the bind

(01:30:33):
administration and the Obama administration had all of these files
and didn't release anything and didn't charge President Trump or
Donald Trump when he was not in the White House,
so we know there's nothing there. Unfortunately, I think a
lot of people it's just in the zeitgeist. People will
repeat things that are false just because it feels fun
to say.

Speaker 8 (01:30:53):
I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
I mean, it is the number one accusation that gets
hurled at everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:30:57):
No pedophile, pedophile, it's critical pedo theory.

Speaker 7 (01:31:00):
It's pedophilia pervades the universe and all of our leaders.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
It's a brain rot. It's challenging.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
Yeah, it is challenging, but we do need to keep
messaging on it because a lot of people believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Can't abandon it.

Speaker 8 (01:31:12):
You're not blackpil.

Speaker 6 (01:31:17):
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