Mother's Day Special: Moms Who Keep Trucking Moving

Being a mom is one of the hardest jobs in the world. Being a mom in the trucking industry is something else entirely. In this Mother's Day special of Always Pneumantic Never Static, we sit down with Andrea McClung, Rachel Dellaposta, and Kelly Turnmire for one of the most real and powerful conversations this podcast has ever had. We break down what motherhood actually looks like inside the walls of Bulk Transit and Spur Transit. The sacrifice of raising kids while keeping an industry moving. The pride of watching your family grow up, understanding the value of hard work. The fear that never fully goes away. The empty nest that hits differently when your whole life has been spent putting everyone else first. This one is for the moms who drive trucks, the moms who wait at home, the single moms holding it all together, and every trucking family that knows the weight of this life. New episodes at Always Pneumantic Never Static. Share this one with the mom in your life today.

Episode Transcript

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What do you do for a Mother's Day special on a podcast? Uh, well, it can look like a lot of things.
And you've heard a lot of these episodes before. Uh. Thank you. Stories. All the right things to say.
Maybe even some flowers get shipped. Okay, but this one, this episode of always pneumatic, never
static. This one's a little different, because today isn't just about celebrating moms. It's

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about understanding them. It's about the things you don't see. The late nights, the early mornings,
the constant balancing act between work and home, and the quiet moments when these moms are just
trying to figure out if they're getting it all right. And in one case, it's about growing up,
watching all of that happen, watching a mother hold down a family while a company was being

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built, and then stepping into that world yourself and carrying it forward. We had some laughs in
this episode, I won't lie to you, but I'll be very honest with you when I say this conversation got
even more real than I expected it to. Because when you start talking about motherhood, you're not
just talking about a role. You're talking about an identity, sacrifice, pride, and sometimes

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fear. So today we're sitting down with three incredible moms from Bulk and Spur,
Andrea McClung, Rachel Dellaposta, and Kelly Turnire. Join us today on the show to talk
about what it really takes to be a mom in the trucking industry. You are
listening to. Always pneumatic, never static. The Totally Pressurized podcast, brought to you by

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Bulk Transit, where we keep the lines clear, the tanks empty, and the conversation anything but dry.
Whether you're running powder pellets or anything in between, pull up a seat, crack the windows, and
let's hit it. How's it going out there? Bulk and Spur. Welcome
into always pneumatic, never static. Episode 13. And dare I say, Happy Mother's Day to

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all the mothers out there.
My mom included, my sister included as well. A very happy Mother's Day. Going out to every mother
out there from the always pneumatic, never static crew. And this is an exciting day for me. Okay, I'm

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going to tell you why, but let me get to the homework first. You know what's coming. You know
I'm going to say it. Let's just get it out of the way so we can forget about it and move on.
podcast.bulktransit.com is the website that's where you want to go to get in touch with me. But that's
also where you want to go to take the quizzes that we have. Each episode comes with a quiz and
you can test your mettle up there. You never know. Sooner or later we're going to be doing another

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giveaway, uh, that will coincide with these quizzes. We've already given away two really nice cooling
vests on this show. We will do that again here in the in the future at some point in time. I'm not
exactly sure when yet. And to be honest with you, it's not 100% my decision. So just get on that to
that website, podcast.bulktransit.com and start practicing. You'll start to understand the way we get these

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questions out of each episode, and then you'll start to get better at them. And hey, maybe that
retention thing will even get a little bit better. Look, I'm 41 years old. I don't remember what I had
for dinner last night, so I get it. Sometimes retention is a little tough. And I'm not talking
about Rachel's job. That's a completely different ballgame. But go on there, take the quizzes. Every
single episode that we have produced and will produce will be on podcast.bulktransit.com. So if you

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don't want to go to Spotify, Apple Music, all the rest of these platforms, all you have to do is
bookmark that website and you can go there 5 a.m. local time every Wednesday for a brand new hour
of content from Always Pneumatic, Never Static, and I say an hour of content. Sometimes we don't get
to fit it all within an hour because we're talking about important stuff on this show, and

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today's episode might be the hallmark for that, because today we're talking about moms.
And, uh, this the Mother's Day episodes that I've done. Just a little background for you guys now.
I've been making podcasts for truck drivers. I think maybe I've said this before, it's going on
about four years now. I've probably got 300 plus episodes under my belt, and a lot of the Mother's

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Day episodes that we end up doing sound the same. We don't get a lot of mothers that really are are
too excited about, uh, banging the drum for mothers. And it stinks because what I always get is a
bunch of I get a bunch of male drivers that want to come in and do shout-outs to their moms on
these other podcasts. I shouldn't have said it stinks. That doesn't stink. Those are always really

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cool episodes and they're really fun. And we've actually featured some moms before, but it's been
few and far between. This episode gets to be different, and I'm so excited for it because today
we're welcoming three moms that work at Bulk and Spur, and that means you're going to get to know a
little bit about what it's actually like to be a mom in the trucking industry, and that's really

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what I was aiming for for this episode. I'll be honest with you. I know that we all love our moms.
We know that that's that's not something that's lost on any of us. Okay. If you ask, you know, take a
random sampling of ten people say, hey, do you love your mom? You're probably going to get nine yeses
in one. Maybe. Okay, look, I, I love to make space for it on the podcast, but I wanted to see the

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real side of this from their perspective. Because one thing that saying all these nice things about
mom doesn't do on the podcast is show some of the sacrifices, some of the fears, some of the points
of pride, some of the things that they might have been scared of over the years of raising their
children. And I think that is where the real meat is. Um, for a Mother's Day episode. And we get

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to do that today, and I need to get the heck out of here and stop talking, because I told you
earlier, hey, we'd try to fit it all in an hour. This conversation we're about to have with our
three moms from Bulk go for almost an hour. So I'm already over time here, and I'm happy to do it
because this was such a great episode. So please, without further ado, welcome to Always Pneumatic,

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Never Static our three moms for our Mother's Day special.
Welcome back into Always Pneumatic, Never Static. I am so pumped for this episode. Uh, I'm a little bit
of a mama's boy myself. I'm not gonna lie to anybody. I have a great relationship with my mom. My

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dad and I enjoy all the same hobbies, but I'm a lot more like my mom than I am my dad. I'm
emotional. Um, I like to. I like to enjoy and feel all of the feelings. And. And I'm a huge dog lover.
All those things come from mom. And, this episode is special. It's special to me because a lot of
the times, the Mother's Day episodes that you will hear on a trucking podcast will sound a lot the

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same. Uh, thank you's stories. We give mom flowers. We want to tell all you know. How would it be if
mom was in the cab with you? But today isn't that. Today is about what it actually takes to raise a
family and build a company. And in one case, what it looks like to grow up inside that story and
carry it forward. So please welcome our three mothers that are joining us here on the show

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today. First off, we've got HR director and owner at Bulk and Spur. Andrea McClung. Andrea, thank you
so much for being here today. Hi, Marcus. Happy to be here. I'm so happy to have you. We've got so
much to dig into with your family history and the company and everything. So excited to dig into
that a little bit today. Um, and of course, I will tell you all this each individually. Happy

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Mother's day from Always Pnomatic, Never Static. I thank you, you. Of course. Of course. Joining us
next. You just heard her on this show last week. She was so good. We had to have her back again.
That is, of course, our recruiting and retention manager, Rachel Dellaposta. Rachel, thank you so
much for giving us time. Two weeks in a row. Hey, you give me a microphone and an audience. And I

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love to listen to my own self-talk, so. Hey. Amen. Amen, I love it. Happy Mother's Day to you as well,
Rachel. Thank you. And I also have making her first appearance here on the show. And guess what? I
didn't do my job because I didn't ask what terminal she was the manager for. But I've got
terminal manager Kelly Turnmire on the show. Kelly, welcome to the show. Thank you for making

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your first appearance. Please tell me what terminal you manage so that I can be good at my
job today. Hi, Marcus. I'm glad to be here. Um, I am the terminal manager in Pikeon.
Piketon, thank you so much for being here, Kelly. Happy Mother's Day to you out there in Piketon.
Thank you. Now, I want to start off Andrea, kind of right from the top. And I promise I'm going to

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wrap this whole thing around. I'll get to to Rachel and Kelly here in just a moment. But, Andrea,
your father builds this company. But nobody builds something like this alone. And I think we all know
that. What role did your mom play in the journey of Bulk and Spur becoming what it is today?
Yeah. So, I mean, obviously, she was very involved. I mean, he started out, you know, driving a truck for

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somebody else. So she was there supporting him while he was doing that. And then you heard the
story about how he took the money from that they had saved, buy a house to actually buy a truck. So
that didn't go so well for her. But she didn't. But she still supported him and routed him on and
obviously got over it and it all worked out. But she also did, um, payroll in the very early days. I

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remember her actually processing payroll. It was actually for the Piketon terminal that Kelly is
currently running, and, um, we had a situation where we were working with another company
where basically it was our trucks pulling their trailers, and so she would do that payroll
manually, in-house. I just remember all the paperwork kind of laid out on our dining room

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table. And once a week she that's what she would be doing. And then as things had gotten kind of
larger, she decided she'd be better off not in the business with dad and just encouraging him from
the sidelines. Hey, I understand that that can be a wise decision to make. So your mom used to do
payroll. So there's a certain aspect of you filling mom's shoes right now, right? Yeah, actually,

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I hadn't actually thought of that. You're right. Yeah, obviously. Uh, probably doing a little bit
more here as, as the time has gone on, but. Yeah, that's one of your roles I know. So. Yeah. Um. What?
Andrea, what did you see growing up? Uh, maybe that you didn't quite understand at the time, but now
you really do about that kind of support role that your mom played in after she decided to step

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away from the company? Yeah. You know, obviously my mom's, you know, her with my dad being such
a workaholic and putting his whole life into the business. You know, my mom really had to put us
first, and so. And she was is the best mom. Like, I literally have grown up
thinking if I could just be, like, half the mom that she was, I think I'd be doing pretty good

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because, like, she was president of PTO, she was a soccer coach, even though she never played soccer
before. Heck, I think she might have even coached the boys in baseball at one point in time. So like,
she was one of those moms that literally would do anything and was very involved. She had several
jobs throughout. You know, throughout my childhood as well. Um, but really, her number one job was

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being a mom, and she was awesome. Like, she literally raised the whole neighborhood, you know?
So she was just that mom that was super involved and then in still very much involved. Like as we
all had kids. Then she became like, you know, grandma of the year as well. I mean, she would take
all of them to the movies by herself. So there could be anywhere from eight to 8 to 12 of them,

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sometimes 14. And she would take them by herself to the movie theater, all the sporting events. You
know, she was just she was awesome. So her role was really kind of outside the business, just making
sure everything at home was, was safe and good to go. That's so cool. And in any grandma that can
stomach taking 14 kids to the movies by herself, that's a grandma that's coached a couple of teams

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before she knows how to, uh, how to make a group of kids move in unison. You know, it's so funny that
you say that my sister is a boy Mom and my sister grew up as a dancer and a cheerleader. And here
she is this last year coaching Little League. I called her and I said, I've seen you throw a ball.
What are you doing coaching Little League? That was a great team. She did a great job with it. I

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was always blown away, but that's kind of just what moms do, right? Andrea? It's see a need, fill a
need. Yep. Absolutely. That's definitely the way mom was to I think she was our she was my Girl Scout
leader and she was the boys' Boy Scout leader at one time. I mean, when I say she was involved, she
really was. And even after we graduated high school, there would be principals that would still
reach out to her if they needed help with something. So, like, they didn't want to let her go.

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She makes me look terrible as a parent. I'll be honest with you. Hey, how's it working, mom? It's
okay. Have a high bar and reach for it every day. Right. Uh, do you think people outside your family
fully understand what your mom carried during this time? I mean, like you said, your dad had to be
very involved with the trucking company to get it to the the level that it is today and where you

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guys where it was when he passed. Um, is everybody kind of aware of the not only the sacrifice
but the effort that your mom put in? Yeah, I mean, I think everybody can see it now. You. She would
never necessarily show it like she, she's tough. She's a tough mama and she. Doesn't want the
recognition. No. You know you would never know that like honestly until we all grew up and kind of

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went off to college. It was like then she was like, who am I who? I got to kind of reinvent myself. I
gotta find some friends. I get to do some stuff. And she's done all of that too. I mean, we all want
to grow up to be her someday. So, you know, I think she carried it very well. And she knew also that
she had to do things to kind of support dad and trying to getting him away from work a little bit

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because, you know, his stress level would get really high and especially when something
happened, you know, something like a bad accident or something like that, you know, that would be
really hard on dad. And so she knew that she needed to do things to, to get some kind of work
life balance going for dad. And so they had started taking us on. We would do a week in
Florida every, um, Every winter just to kind of get dad away from it. And then, you know, when I got a

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little older, then, um, somehow they got the boating bug and ended up buying a houseboat on Lake
Cumberland and, um, you know, and with her, I mean, she just planned everything out, and it was
allowed my dad to get away, you know, about once a month or every few weeks, just for long weekend. Um,
you know, so we could all be together. And honestly, I don't think we would have ever even, you know,

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our dad worked so hard that that's how we got to know dad. So she definitely did a lot to bring us
together as a family and then also to support dad in the business. That's awesome. It's such a cool
story. And hey, you got to take the guy out of Ohio and get him down to Florida once a year to warm
his bones up. Right? It's cold up there sometimes where you guys are out. Oh. Absolutely. Rachel, after

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hearing Andrea talk about that, how much of that feels familiar? You hear her talk about the
juggling that her mom was doing. You told me that you are a single mom, and I would like to know how
familiar that whole juggle of all of the kids and and trying to take the stress off feels for you,
because that's something that you do along with your 40-hour-a-week, full-time job as recruiting

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and retention manager. Right. So, yeah, I mean, being a mom in general is tough. And then being a single
mom on top of that, being a single working mom is it's a lot. It's it's a lot. So I can definitely
understand, um, the unique challenges and, uh, you know, all the different responsibilities and
having lots of balls in the air at all times. Kelly, how about you? When you were listening to

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Andrea talk about her mom there? How familiar did all that feel to what you face day to day? So
my mom was a lot like Andrea's mom. She was involved in everything. Um, she
wore so many different hats. She was going to college while she was working, and she, um, she

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got her degree and and started teaching and then it then it kind of all transitioned to a
different type of environment. My mom was actually my seventh-grade teacher.
Oh, wow. It was terrible. Um, and then

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like, um, my mom is like a math genius. So I didn't get that part of of her passed down.
But, um, I remember her sitting at the table, and I would just be crying, and she's like, why aren't
you getting this? And I'm just like, I don't know. And but so as, as we
transitioned into that type of environment, my mom was my teacher, but she was still there, you know,

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for all of, all of the big things. And she was always the cheerleader.
So then once I ended up graduating, I went to college, I had
kids, and my mom kind of took over the whole babysitting role while I was going to

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college and working, and because I was a single mom, too. And, um, she still is in
that role, and she just had a birthday in January, and she's, she's getting to the point where she
can't do those things anymore. But, um, she's still very involved with the grandkids. She's still very
involved with, you know, me and my brother. Um, so a lot of what Andrea said resonates with what

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I had as a child, too. Absolutely. Now, I want to kind of talk a little bit about, uh,
the double load that that you guys work as, as moms that are that are working. It's a double load.
It's the same for dads. Look, I don't I'm not taking anything away from dads here. But you'll
have your month in June. We're we're spending time on moms right now. So, uh, get over it is all I can

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say to the dads out there that might be pounding their fist on the dash right now. Sorry. Um, I said
I'm a mama's boy. You're gonna catch that from me every now and then. But, um. Walk me through Rachel.
A day where everything is pulling from you at once. Work needs you. Kids need you. We've got
sports. We've got after-school activities. What does that feel like in real time, and how do you

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manage it? So, you know, it's first of all, I am very thankful that my own mom
is very involved with my son. So I do have that going for me. Um, she helps out a lot, but, you know,
you get up extra early to get your child ready for school and then you've got, you know, the
school drop off line is always fun. Um, and then, you know, your kid forgot his backpack or you

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forgot his lunch, and then you got to go back home, and then you got to go back to the school, and
then you got to get to work. And then, you know, you're slammed all day at work and trying to get
through your workday. And then you sit in traffic to get home and, you know, cook dinner and run to
sports. And, you know, there's always a million things going on. Um. I, I always like

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to think of kind of this analogy that I heard about. You know, you're always going to have a
million balls in the air, and you got to figure out which ones are glass and which ones are
plastic, which ones are okay to drop and which ones you got to keep in the air. So that's a
that's kind of what I focus on is not being perfect, just making sure you don't drop the glass
ones. Boy, that's a great analogy. Kelly I got the same question for you. What's it feel like when

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you're going through a day where everything's pulling at you at once? Does that analogy that
Rachel just brought up there resonate with you? Uh, it does, but one thing that I learned,
um, at, you know, being a mom, my kids are older now, and and I now have grandbabies. Um, but one
thing that I learned as a mom is you have these magic hands that that come

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out at some point to help you juggle, um, everything. You don't know how you're going to get
it done, but you do. And, um, thankfully, you know, I had a support
system that, you know, could pick up, pick up the pieces and, and juggle the the
balls in the air that I, I couldn't juggle. And, um, it's stressful being a mom. It's hard,

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but it's one of the most rewarding jobs you'll ever have. It's something that we hear from every
mom we've ever had on this podcast. There's not a single one of you that would ever change. Uh, being
a mom, is that correct? My kids definitely taught me patience and
and forgiveness, so. Yeah. Yeah, well that's good. Those are. Those are great lessons to learn. Uh,

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Andrea, I will come back to you here. Um, as you hear Rachel and Kelly talk about being a mom
working for Bulk, uh, obviously it's worked out for them, and and probably a big part of that is the
support that Bulk gives its employees. We've heard plenty of it on this podcast up to this
point. But from the top down, what does that mean to you that you can see? You know, Rachel's single

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mom. Kelly's got grandkids now. They're still able to manage this and work the job at the same time.
How much does that mean to you as a mom yourself? And how intentional is that environment at Bulk
and Spur? Yeah, yeah. It's awesome. I mean, I just I they're both awesome moms, awesome people for sure.
So yeah, you know, it's one of the things that is great about Bulk is that, you know, we can have

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some flexibility. And, um, you know, our families have to come first, and especially our children
have to come first. So sometimes, you know, sometimes Rachel needs to work from home, or
sometimes Kelly needs to leave early, even though her children are adults now. But she has grandkids,
too. And sometimes things come up and and they have to take their priority, um, for sure. And, you

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know, I was blessed with that flexibility when I was raising my kids as well. Um, you know, my
husband's job was not quite as flexible. So, um, you know, it is great that at Bulk Transit we can have
a little bit more flexibility. I mean, there are days that is tougher than others that I know that
you know, I knew that I would need my mom. I mean, there's no doubt. Like, I don't know how I would

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have gotten through it had my mom not been able to step up because, you know, payrolls got to get
processed. And if the kids are sick on a Wednesday, I need somebody to to take the kids. Otherwise,
they'd be sitting here in the office with me when they were young. And I tried not to do that very
often. Yeah, I can imagine on a day that's not payroll day, maybe that's a little easier to
manage, right? Yes. Exactly. And it does. You know, listening to them, it makes me remember how that

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was. And boy, was it stressful because you just you want to be everything to everybody, right? And it's
just impossible to do. So Rachel is exactly right. You kind of have to pick your, you know, the
priorities and kind of just go with it and let it roll off the back because there's going to be
days you're just not going to make everybody happy. Absolutely. And that is that is the
quintessential, um, I guess, Cross that moms bear. You want to be everything to

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everyone. And you know, my mom was big on telling me to pick my battles when I was a kid because I
wasn't what you would call a fighter, but I was a bit of a weird that I would end up where I am as
a career here. Um, but, you know, I it was always for mom. She'd say, pick your battles. You're not going
to be able to please everyone. And that was something that she taught me that, uh, that has

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really stuck with me. And I want to bring this to something really real here. If we can, uh, I want to
ask each one of you what's what's something that you've had to give up as a mom because of your
career or something that you've had to give up for your career because of being a mom? Um, Andrea,
I can start with you. Is there anything that sticks out to you there? Something that you maybe

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you had to sacrifice as a mom or or as a as a career woman? Uh, to be a mom? Yeah. I mean,
obviously, the biggest thing is just time. I mean, it's it's really your sacrificing time. It's to
me, it's not a sacrifice. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. But you're kind of sacrificing time. Um,
you know, I started golfing before I had kids and didn't golf. You know, I probably golfed, you know, a

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handful of times and then got pregnant with Conor and literally didn't golf for another 20 years. So
I gave up golf, but not a big sacrifice. And still, still still doing it, but still not very good at
it. So it was probably a good thing that I left it behind. And maybe with having a little more
patience, which I can't say that I'm the most patient person in the world, but I feel like I've

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gained a little patience through kids over the years. But really, it's just a time. I mean, but now
I have almost, you know, now it feels like the opposite. Now, sometimes I feel like I have too
much time on my hands, and I feel like I wish I had things to keep me busy. So. Right, right. Well,
take it from somebody who didn't take 20 years off of golf and didn't get any better. I don't
know that you missed much out there. Um, we're still out there hitting balls into the pond every

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weekend without you, but we're glad to have you back. Whenever you do get back out there, do you? Do
you get out there and hack around a little bit? Now that you've got a little more time with the
kids grown? Yeah, yeah. About that once a week. Okay. That's out there. Yeah. That's what us fellow
golfers like to hear once a week. That's great. Uh, Rachel, how about for you? Same question. Uh,
anything that sticks out in your mind that you sacrificed as a mom and maybe sacrificed isn't

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the right word. What Andrea said there really did kind of resonate with me. She said, I don't really
look at it as a sacrifice because I do it again, time and again. Is there anything that you gave up?
Maybe that's a better way to put it. Um, because you you had to give it up as a mom because of
your career or vice versa. You had to give it up for your career because you were a mom. Yeah, I

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guess the the big one that sticks out in my mind. And this is a me decision. This is not like if I
wanted to offer these things, Andrea would absolutely understand. But, you know, doing things
like, um, going on school field trips or, you know, taking a day off to go to their field day or
whatever. I choose to skip things like that, um, and come to work and save my PTO, because one thing

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that my son and I have established is our our vacations are very important to us. We do mom and
son trips on a regular basis and we love doing those. So I like to plan my time off for those
things and then kind of make the sacrifices in in other ways that are not so important to my son.
Like he doesn't really care all that much if I miss field Day, you know? Sure. So things like that.

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Um, you know, it's it's a sacrifice, but there's give and take and and like I said, we make up for
it on our little trips, and we love those. And, um, again, just just to reiterate, that's that's a
personal decision. And one thing that I can say about working for Bulk Transit is
Andrea is completely understanding of my home life and and what I need and in support of

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whatever I need to make happen in order to be successful in my career and as a mom. And so I'm
very thankful to work for a company that is understanding of that. For sure, for sure. And, you
know, I think that that's there's another really good analogy there. You know, you're not you're not
making these decisions on because you don't want to you get to go do something. You're making these

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decisions so that you get to save that PTO time to go on those trips, which are so much more
impactful to your son. I have to ask you, I'm not letting you get out of here without telling me
where was the last mom and son vacation and where's the next one? So they're actually both the
same place. Um, we have annual passes to Universal Studios, so we go down every couple months.

(27:55):
We stay at the Universal hotels and, like, we have the whole thing worked out. We are universal
experts. He is so funny. He actually, we were standing in line and this one kid
said something about like, oh, it's been so long since we've been here. And my son was like, oh yeah,
it's been really long for us too. It's been at least a couple months. Like he has no concept that

(28:18):
other people do not do this. That is. Awesome. This trip was, uh, was for Mardi
Gras. It's a family-friendly Mardi Gras down at Universal Studios. And he that's his favorite trip
that we do. Um, and then we're going to do one in the summer and then we go back for Halloween as
well. Oh how cool. Halloween at Universal Studios has got to be awesome for the little guy.

(28:39):
Absolutely amazing. Yeah. As he already picked his costume out. No okay. Gotta wait. There's. He thinks
about Halloween all year long. That's his favorite holiday. Uh, my wife's the same way, so I totally
understand that, uh, she's gone through three costume iterations already, and it's, uh, April, so
May, you know, it's like, I get that, uh, Kelly, I want to. I want to toss that same question to you. Um,

(29:01):
anything that you've had to give up, uh, as a mom because of your career or vice versa, that sticks
out in your mind. So I, I agree a lot with Andrea. A lot of it's time. Getting
completely honest, I think as a mom I gave up who I was. I
kind of became like the sole provider for my kids. So

(29:25):
my my role in life and everything that I needed to do
that became my goal. And that being a mom, keeping my kids safe,
working. That's who I became. So now that my kids are grown, um,
I'm just learning to figure out who I am.

(29:52):
That's great. I I'm I'm I'm happy for you that you're that you're able to, uh, you know, rediscover
some old loves. Is there anything that you've, that you've rediscovered since your kids have grown
that you're you're thinking, man, I, I'm glad that I got back into this. Um. well, like I,
I used to, um, before I had kids, I would spend a lot of time writing and

(30:17):
doing poetry and things like that. And I actually have the time now to sit
down and do that, regardless if it's good or bad. But, um, I had an opportunity
when, um, my youngest daughter was 2 or 3, um, I was invited

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to a national conference, um, and asked to read my poetry and things like that,
so I didn't I ended up not going. You know, I had kids, I had obligations. That's one of the things
that I turned down. You know, as a mom. So now I can sit down and I can start writing again
and, and, um, doing, like, my poetry and stuff, and it it it feels good. But then I'm just like, oh, my

(31:03):
gosh, I'm doing something by myself. But yeah, that's
that's probably one of the things that I have found myself getting back into that I really do
enjoy. That's great. I'm so glad to hear that. And you know, the other thing that I think of from a
from a creative standpoint, um, you've got so much more inspiration after, uh, living the, the, uh,

(31:28):
adolescent life with your kids that they did, like, you've got all this new poetry to write, I'm sure,
is that. Do you find that it's kind of just spilling out of you at this point? Um, yeah. Once I
can figure out, like, you know, I have to figure out what those feelings are and what those emotions
are first, right? Um, and then they kind of end up on paper. But, um,

(31:52):
I use a lot of the things that I've gone through as a young mom and as
a, a younger grandma, and, um, those, those just seem to be
continuing along in the poetry that I started writing again. So, um. Sitting down with a cup of

(32:12):
coffee and a notebook is my thing. That's so cool. Well, listen, I know that what I'm about to say
here is probably going to hit, like, a ton of bricks, and, uh, you're never obligated. But if you
would ever like to come on. Always pneumatic, never static and read some of your poetry, I will make
room for it. I'll ask Andrea right now, live on the air, because I know she would love to hear it, too.

(32:35):
So, uh, we will make room, but obviously you're not obligated. I know that would be kind of a big step.
So if you're ever thinking that, that's something you want to do. Kelly. Always pneumatic. Never
statics. You're spot. Okay, we'll make room. I'll see what I can put together. Hey. That's awesome. That's
so. Cool. I love to hear that, Kelly. Absolutely. I would love it to. And and you know, the reason I

(32:56):
asked that question and I did say I, I'm asking this because it's real. You heard a little bit of
emotion come out there and it's not because, um, of anything other than that's just what life will do
to you. It's it's a lot. One of the things we illustrated here over the last few minutes is
there's a lot of forces pulling at a mom, especially one working a 40 hour a week job at

(33:17):
once. And a lot of times that can be a really heavy thing. And Mother's Day is a great time to
acknowledge those things and to say, thanks, mom. We appreciate the sacrifice. I'll say it to my mom
right now. I know if we had your kids on here right now, they would all say it as well. And I
just really appreciate you sharing that emotion with us. All three of you. Um, you know, we want to

(33:39):
be as real as we can on this show. And I'd say that did a pretty good job of taking a tick in
that box. So, um, Rachel, I, I, I want to come to you next here. Being a single mom, uh, a lot of
times, what you think of is there's no safety net. There's no second set of hands. You did mention, uh,
a second set of hands. That's helped out a little bit, but what does that reality actually look like

(34:00):
on your hardest day at work. I'll take you back to our conversation last week. Um, you've got a ton of
calls to make. The market is hot. There's a lot of drivers to sift through. Everything is happening.
If I made Chicken Little this, the sky is falling at work. But the sky also might be falling at home.
What's that reality look like to you? Yeah. So days like that are hard. Um, I specifically can can

(34:24):
think of. Um, you know, there is one day that, uh, things were kind of crazy in general,
just with life in general. Um, and my son had called me to come get
him, or the nurse had called me to come get him. And this was like, uh, something that he was doing,
like weekly. And, you know, I, uh, I went in and had a conversation with Andrea and, you

(34:51):
know, kind of had some of that emotion come out because I didn't know what's going on with him.
And, you know, I was trying to balance getting my work done and figuring out why he is
wanting me to come get him from school all the time, you know? Is it something that he's dealing
with emotionally? Is it something going on at school? Like what is going on? And, um, so I,

(35:14):
you know, it's a struggle to to balance that and figure all that out and have all of that weighing
on me while I'm also trying to, you know, be at work and talk to drivers, and you don't want to
answer the phone all, you know, down in the dumps and, and have that come out over the phone too. So
yeah, there's, there's a lot of, uh, difficulty in situations like that. Well, we talked about that,

(35:37):
you know, kind of first impressions last week and, and, um, you know, how you can tell sometimes if
there's red flags, green flags, gray flags, right off the bat, I'm sure a prospective driver calling
in and getting a recruiting and retention manager that's hair is on fire also probably does some
things on their side. So it's like that's not that's not the way you want to approach your job.

(35:58):
You can tell. Yeah. I don't think anybody wants to call in to the recruiter and have them be like,
what do you want? Yeah, right. Yeah. What's next? Who's this? Gosh, I totally get that. Uh,
Andrea and Kelly, I'm going to take it to a little bit of a different place for you. I want to talk
about the empty nest. That was something that I know my mom struggled with. I was the youngest

(36:19):
child, and when I went off to college, I know it was tough on her. And I know I. I'm seeing my
sister's boys grow up right now, and while they're only like 13 and ten, they look like they're 18
and 22 and they're going to be in a blink of an eye. And I know she's going to struggle with it
when they leave the house. So let's talk a little bit about that. Andrea, I'll go to you first. Uh, you

(36:41):
mentioned, you know, both of you mentioned getting to rediscover some old hobbies, but was it tough
that first few days, months, weeks, uh, when you didn't have any kids in the house? Andrea. Yeah,
it's. It was a little bizarre. And, you know, I see where Kelly's coming from. You kind of have to
reinvent yourself. You're like, okay, my I've been mom. You know, and you're still mom. It's not like

(37:03):
you ever stopped worrying. But, um, yeah, I think the weirdest thing was I used to come home from work,
and I look at my. I look at my husband Sean, and I'd say, Sean, do you hear that? And he'd say, no. And
I'm like, exactly. Quiet, peace and quiet. And that was really fun for a
little while. And then after a while, the peace and quiet, wow. It just gets it's a little deafening,

(37:28):
honestly. And then you realize we've got to do something. And that's when we started, you know,
golfing together and joined a golf club. And, um, yeah, it's it's crazy. Now, my, our daughter went
to UC for a year and a half. And so we really were empty nesters, um, for a year and a half. But she's
now back, so my empty nest is not empty anymore. But okay. I love having her. And she's in

(37:53):
nursing school here in Columbus, and our sons out in California. And I miss him a ton. And I love
having Kayla with us that I am hoping she just stays for a little while, but still encouraging
her to leave. Obviously, I know that's what I should be doing as a mom, but I do love having her
at home. Well, that that nursing school on the horizon there. That's a good that's a good, uh, I

(38:16):
guess, telltale sign that eventually she's probably going to take off. Right. But that's a
pretty good chance. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's cool. I didn't know that you had a couple kids out here
on the West Coast. You said. You see, I'm. I'm imagining that's University of California. No. Well,
Kayla went to UC, which is University of Cincinnati. Oh, Cincinnati. Okay. Yeah. And then
Connor. Is. Yeah. Sorry. No. I'm sorry, I'm a West coaster, so my UC is just a different UC. That's

(38:42):
all there is. I'm sorry for the confusion. Yeah, yeah, she's in Cincinnati and Connor is in LA. Oh,
okay. Great. Well, that's nice to get out there and visit them once in a while in sunny LA right? Yes,
yes. Once you figure out, like, where to go. Like the first time we did it, it was not good. Yeah, we sat
in traffic the entire time and literally got nothing done. Yeah. Hollywood Boulevard. Boulevard.

(39:04):
Not what it used to be. Not where I would recommend you go. That's where my wife and I
stayed back in 2020, right before the world fell apart in Covid. We went down there for a Rose Bowl
and we we were so excited to stay in this old historic hotel. And I was like, this does not seem
like the Hollywood that they've shown me on the pictures. Yes. Exactly. A lot of it's a lie. You have

(39:25):
to go north, go to the hills, go to the mountains. Stay outside. Beautiful. Out there in Pasadena,
where the Rose Bowl is like that. Did you know that that stadium sits on a golf course? Like you
actually tailgate on a golf course when you go to the Rose Bowl? Did you know that? Andrea? No, I did
not know that. That is wild. I was so upset that nobody told me that because I rolled in and all

(39:47):
my Oregon gear ready for a football game, and I could have played 18 holes of golf before the
game. I was so upset. But yeah, it's it's about finding the right places in LA for sure. Good
point there. Um, Kelly, I, I want to go to you with kind of the same question. Uh, was it hard at first
when the nest emptied out? Um, you talked about rediscovering some hobbies. Obviously that's a

(40:08):
good thing, but were there other emotions involved? Was it just different? Kind of like Andrea said
for those first few weeks or months? Um, I think it I in our situation,
um, I agree with Andrea somewhat, but my when my kids
all left the nest and I, I walked in the door for the first time and I thought,

(40:33):
whoa, this is nice, but oh, but, um, I
your kids never stop needing you. And they never stop visiting, and they never stop, you know,
calling my middle daughter shall call me on FaceTime 4 or 5 times every day. Um, so

(40:55):
I guess when you look at the whole empty nest thing, maybe the house is more empty. But I think,
I think our relationship has gotten a lot better. Um, just because
I think they have realized as adults now what it did take to be a mom, and they have kids

(41:16):
theirself, so they're seeing that. But I don't I don't know that the empty nest thing really
became a huge thing for me. Um, maybe for the first couple of days I was pretty
devastated. But after that, you know, but I was always on the phone with them. They were always
still asking questions and needing things, and they do to this day. Um, and then came the

(41:40):
grandkids. So they were at the house every weekend for a while. Oh, perfect. Perfect. So it wasn't a
hard transition for me now. The whole golfing thing for Andrea. I can't do it. There's. I
don't go hit a ball with a stick. I, I don't have that coordination. So good for her.

(42:00):
But I can't do it. Hey, you'll stick to the pin in the pad and that's fine. That's
a that definitely clears out the cobwebs upstairs as well. And I would suffice what you just told me,
Kelly, to say that the nest isn't empty or the nest may be empty. Excuse me, but the heart is
still very full. Would you. Would you agree with that? Yeah. Um, the nest never goes away. Yeah. And

(42:24):
that's awesome. And they always come back and and they're, they're always still needing mom. So it's
it's never really, truly an empty nest I guess. I love that your daughter calls you 3 or 4 times a
day on FaceTime. That's being the rock. That's what a mom is right there. Because those are sometimes
those are just because she wants to talk. But other times it's because life has gotten in the

(42:45):
way. And I need some advice, right? Yep. Yep. Yeah. Most recently. Most recently. She was so proud
of herself that she got a new Wii game system. So she had to call me, and we had to unbox the Wii
together. And. And she's going to call me today after she gets home from school so I can see her
playing the Wii, so. Oh, that's great. That's great. But I get to celebrate the little things with

(43:11):
them. And, and, um, even if it's, you know, FaceTime or whatever, um,
empty nest is, is not always just empty. Sure, sure. It almost sounds like that little FaceTime, uh,
relationship that you have with your daughter is like your own, uh, independent YouTube page for her.
You just get to watch her unbox her things or cook or meals or whatever she's doing at that

(43:35):
point in time. You're right there. We probably could be one of those influencers online
doing our little YouTube show every day. I bet my granddaughter. That's her daughter.
Um, every time she calls on FaceTime, I say hi, pumpkin, and she'll say, hi, pumpkin. So that's

(43:55):
what she has grown up to. Call me, I'm me, me to the other grandbabies. But I'm pumpkin to her and
we get looks in the store. And I am a 41 year old man that my mom
still calls Buddy or Bud every single time she sees me and I. You know what? When she stops, that's

(44:16):
when I'll notice it doesn't. I don't notice it at all. So I love some pet names. I haven't called my
wife anything but sweetheart and babe for since we got married. And I know sometimes that's a
little bit weird in public, but I don't care. Those are terms of endearment. That's what it means.
That's how much it means to me. Uh, your normal name is for everybody else. I've made this one up
for you, and that's what we get to stick with. There's a special place in your heart for that,

(44:39):
isn't there, Kelly? Yep. And she will notice the first time you call her by her real name? Yeah,
absolutely. I want to do a kind of a quick hitter round here with you guys, and go around the table
and just let you guys each answer these quick questions. Um, and these are all about kind of
being a mom here. Uh, Andrea, I'm going to start with you. One word you think your kids would use

(45:03):
to describe you as a mom. Huh? I would say intuition.
They they. That's a good one. You know that I, I typically have an intuition about something like,
you know, you see those, those reels where, like, you know, the mom's on the way before the the child
even has a chance to call. That's what they say about me. Like, I always have a feeling about

(45:26):
something even before it happens. Yeah, yeah. Do you ever get the thing where you were thinking about
something completely different? Maybe it's payroll, and all of a sudden one of your kids randomly
pops into your head, and then you look down in the phone, rings. Does that happen to you? Yes, it does
happen. It is a little. That's that. Mother intuition. Yeah, it is right. It's weird because

(45:48):
it's like there's something going on in that phone that the electricity is. It's kicking off
synapses in my brain. I'll never be smart enough to understand it, but I do think it's kind of cool,
you know, because it happens to me from time to time. Probably nowhere near as much as it happens
to somebody with the intuition of a mom. But, Andrea, I think that's awesome. Rachel. Same one for
you. One word. You think your kid would use to describe you? And and I'm. I'm. Am I going to fun

(46:13):
here? That's where I'm fine. Because I'm hearing about these universal vacations. And I'm thinking
it might just be an easy one. Fun. I am a fun mom. I pride myself on being the fun mom. I mean, to a
certain extent, obviously you still have to, you know, be the parent there. But, um, yeah, I think he
he would describe me as as fun. Um, we do all kinds of stuff together. We're always looking for new

(46:35):
adventures to try. Kelly, one word your kids would use to describe you as a mom. I think I'm going to
go with open. That's a good one. That's a really good one. So you're you're that mom that they can
say anything to without worrying about the repercussions. And they absolutely will.
Sometimes to a fault. Right? Kelly. Yeah. You can't you can't redraw

(47:01):
that line once that line's been erased and they feel comfortable with it, there's no going back,
right? It just gets worse. The older they get, it just gets worse. Yep, yep. And let me tell you from
my own experience, because that's the line that my parents and I have as well. There is no line.
Everything's on the table. Uh, it'll only keep getting worse as they get into their 30s and 40s,
because that's when their problems just compound and get harder to solve. Uh, so I'm sure they're

(47:26):
glad they have you there. Yeah. I never want my kids to feel like they can't come and talk to me,
so I, I've, I've remained open to them. Um, the good or the
bad. That's awesome. Next question I've got and thank you all for that one. Uh, this one's a little
bit more existential, maybe, and it's going to be different for all of you because your kids are

(47:49):
different ages. But, uh, one thing, Andrea, you hope your kids understand about you as a mom
someday. Um, yeah, I hope I hope that they understand that everything that we did, we did
because we thought it was the best for them and that, you know, we had to make some tough decisions
along the way. And it was always with their best interest at heart. And that we're not perfect.

(48:14):
Certainly we made our we made our mistakes along the way. But I just hope they they know that we
definitely tried our best. I bet they do. Rachel, how about you? Uh, one thing you hope your kids
understand someday. That's actually exactly what I was thinking when you first asked the question. I
was going to say. I hope he knows I tried my best. Yeah. Um, it's, you know, it's it's hard to balance

(48:34):
everything, and, um, I, I try really hard to, you know, devote my time and
attention to him and give him what he needs while still, you know, working on myself as well. And and
I'm nowhere near perfect. And I know that, you know, things are not perfect. Life is not perfect. But I
hope that he understands that everything that I did was, um, trying to do what I thought was best

(48:59):
at the time. Well, just have him listen to this podcast episode when he turns 18. I'm sure you'll
get to see your grown son cry, because, uh, I'll tell you the emotions that this is bringing up in
my chest right now. Just hearing you all talk about it. Uh, wow. Uh, I'm. I'm having some issues
over here, but that's why I've got questions, and you guys can talk. Kelly, same question for you.
Something you hope your kids understand about you as a mom someday. I think I gotta go with Andrea

(49:25):
and Rachel on this one, too. Um, and I think that's probably a universal answer for every mom out
there. Um, just realizing that we tried our best. There's no mom manual out
there, so you just have to go with with what you've learned, what you know and what your
heart's telling you. Well said, well said Andrea, your biggest fear as a mom. And this

(49:51):
can be now. Or if it was earlier and you've you've been fortunate enough to dispel that fear. Um, I
guess my biggest fear is in which my son will. He knows this. Um, I'm just afraid that he's
going to get married to somebody someday and that maybe she won't love me.

(50:11):
And I'll lose. Napa Valley. Or lose my son to to her and her family. Which, you know, as long as he's
happy, I would let go. I would I would let this happen, but I just I want to gain a daughter and
not lose a son. So it's like one of my my biggest fears is my kids are getting a little older and
finding themselves in relationships and whatnot. So yeah, I just I just pray that, you know, we can

(50:34):
add somebody to the family and not lose Connor along the way. I totally understand that. As the
youngest boy in my family, uh, the the first woman that I thought was going to I was going to marry.
Um, there were some issues between her and my mom and my sister, and I will put it softly and leave
it at that, because we could do a whole podcast on that. Uh, it turned out it didn't end up that way,

(50:57):
but I know that that was something that my mom was was scared of because I've seen it happen
before. You know, I, I have some relatives, I have some friends who, um, they, they kind of just devote
their whole life to their wife. And if their wife doesn't like their family, then that's it. There is
really no coming back from it. So it's a very legitimate fear, Andrea. And, uh, I will say this

(51:17):
about you. How could anyone not like you? I mean, come on, I've spent enough time talking to you now.
That's crazy. There's no way anybody's out there not liking Andrea. Uh, I, I will I'll send the same
one over to you, Rachel. We'll keep going in the same order. Biggest fear as a mom. I would have to
say my biggest fear as a mom is just worrying about whether or not what I do with him is gonna

(51:40):
ultimately end up screwing him up as an adult. Um, my son is unique because he is very mature for
his age, so I have to always think about, like, am I putting too much on him? Am I, you know,
pushing him past his his, um, limits of where he should be at his age because he's 11. But talking

(52:00):
to him, you could talk to him like a grown adult. And expectations there can can be a little
challenging to kind of balance. You know, think about he's still a kid and I have to keep that in
mind. So yeah, I think my biggest fear is, uh, making sure that I don't screw him up too much. I think
we're all a little traumatized from our parents in one way or another, but, uh, hopefully I don't do

(52:23):
too much of that to him. Uh, I think it's unavoidable, even if you're trying your best. I
think that little bit of trauma that comes from being a kid just comes from being a kid. And
exactly. Uh. Well said there, Rachel. Kelly, I'll go to you. Biggest fear as a mom. Uh, biggest fear as
a mom is probably something happening to one of my kids and me not being there. Okay,

(52:45):
that's a very good one. And and can you expand on that a little bit? Oh, so
my oldest daughter is having some medical issues and my biggest
fear is something happening and me not getting there fast enough. I totally

(53:06):
understand that. And is she is she, uh, proximity away from you? Where? That's a possibility. Kelly.
Um, currently, I'm about an hour and a half from her, but she has plans to move to
Louisiana. Um, so that's quite the distance. Um, yeah.

(53:28):
So as she's navigating these medical issues, um, that fear is very real
for me. I can tell, I can really tell. And I and I think it goes to show what I can hear in your
voice right now, Kelly, is that this is, uh, very much a real fear and very much could come to
fruition. And that's one of the reasons it's weighing so heavy on you. I, I, I'm, I'm sorry that

(53:52):
your daughter is dealing with that. And I can't imagine what it must be like to, uh, to to feel
that way each and every day. Um, do you, do you keep in good touch with this daughter, though, as she's
going through this? I assume he seems like you keep in really good touch with all your kids. Um, I
do. Yes, as much as I can. Um, she's not a phone person. She's a she's not a FaceTime. Or, like, the

(54:13):
middle one is. Um, but I do keep in contact with her, and I, you know, I do, you know, keep the
grandkids every now and again and, and, um, I, I stay informed with the
things that she's going through. Just so I, I, I could kind of
not be so fearful, but it's a very new thing and it is a very emotional

(54:40):
thing. Oh, I, I can tell I can 100% tell. And listen, the one thing I want to say is thank you for
sharing that. I know it's not easy to share, and you don't have to share anything you don't want
to on this podcast, but I know you're doing it for a reason. And that reason is your kids. And we
can't thank you enough for being, you know, open and honest. You said, hey, I'm the open mom here in

(55:01):
the group, and, and, uh, you're you're you're not underselling that at all, Kelly. And we appreciate
that here on this podcast because it's real. And that's exactly what we want to do. We want to
expose the real side of being a mom, especially a working mom, especially single mom. And, uh, you know,
I just I thank you very much for bringing that up here today. I know it's tough and and I hope that

(55:24):
it works out and she makes a full recovery through her medical issues. I'm sure she will.
Um. Just at this point, we just continue to pray and and keep each other
informed and and be there for each other. Um, my other kids are with her as well.
Um, so that's just one of the bad parts of being a mom is, uh, having

(55:50):
to go through the things that are hard. Sure, sure, I totally understand. Uh, ladies, I've got one
last quick fire question for you. Then we're going to wrap this up and let you get back to it. I've
had you here for even longer than I thought I would today, but this is so good and I can't let
this last one go unasked. I would not be doing my job as a podcast host. And if you listen to the

(56:12):
beginning of the episode, I already didn't do my job once because I forgot to ask Kelly what
terminal she manages, so I won't fail again. Andrea, biggest point of pride as a
mother. Oh, I guess for me it would just be. I'm just so proud of who they are as young
adults. And, you know, they're both chasing their dreams and they're happy and, you know, and life is

(56:36):
going to come at them and it has and, you know, in the way they've handled things and have just
persevered. I'm just so, so proud of where they are right now. It's awesome. That's so well said that.
And that's you know, I, I can't lie to you guys. This is exactly where I thought you were going to
go with it. And I'm glad you did. Uh, Rachel, how about for you? Biggest source of pride as a mom? I

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would say just my relationship with my son. I think we have a great relationship. He is honest
with me. He is open with me. And, you know, like like you said, I enjoy being the fun mom. And I think
that is evident. You know, anytime he even, like, goes to, um, you know, play with his friends, he's,
he's got to include me there playing dodgeball. And he's like, hey, mom, you want to join my team?

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You know, so I, I think that is a source of pride for me in that we are so close and he like, thinks
of me as his mom, but also as his friend. That's so cool, I love it. Kelly. Same thing too. You biggest
source of pride as a mom. You know, I agree with Andrea and Rachel, but I'm going to go to the
funny side of this. I kept these kids alive for 18 years. Amen.

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And they they are alive. And they're they're doing their own thing. And they are making their own
relationships and having their own kids, and I. I kept them alive for 18 years.
So. Well done. Good. Yeah. Great work on your end. I

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honestly kind of feel like those high school diplomas that you hang on the wall is also a
certificate for the moms of the world. You kept them alive. Great job there. Done. Yeah. We all, we
all deserve a trophy for just that. We kept them alive. You do? Well, ladies, I can't thank
you enough. This has been such a great episode. All I wanted to do was show as much love to the moms

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today as we could. And talking about the sacrifice, the love, the support, the just the way that
you feel. Uh, your your job as a mom applies to the world at large has been so cool to just sit
here and get three different perspectives on it. Today. I've had so much fun. I want to give
everybody a chance to do final thoughts. Um, now, Kelly, you this is your first appearance, but

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Rachel and Andrea know our Final Thoughts segment is wide open for you. If you want to do a shout
out to your kids and say hi to them. If you want to shout out anybody at the at the company, you
can say anything you want in this segment, especially if we left something on the table that
we didn't get to talk about today. Andrea, since you're a bit of a vet at this at this point in
time, I'm going to start with you. First and foremost, thank you so much for joining us for our

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Mother's Day special today. Final thoughts from you before we let you get back to it. Yeah. My
final thoughts are obviously to wish both Rachel and Kelly happy Mother's Day, and then all of our
other employees that are moms and wish them Happy Mother's Day and Happy Mother's Day to my mom. And
then all the wives out there that you know, that are some of them are moms and, you know, the wives

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that are supporting their husbands and, and, and stuff like that in the truck. And then all of our
moms that are drivers as well. I mean, that's not easy to do. I can't even imagine. So I just want to
say Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there. Well said. Great time to do it right here on our
Mother's Day special. Rachel Dellaposta, thank you for your time today. Two weeks in a row we've had

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you here. We feel privileged. Uh, final thoughts from you on this Mother's Day special? Yeah. Happy
Mother's day to all of the moms out there. Um, especially want to give a shout out to my mom. I
know I had mentioned before that, you know, she's such a big help to me with my son, and I really do
appreciate everything that she does. And and she does step up and help quite a bit. So I really

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appreciate that. I appreciate Bulk Transit because I could not be a good mom
without having a company who supports my family life while I'm working, so I really appreciate
that. And I mean, shout out to all of the moms who are drivers. It always amazes me when I talk to
these moms who, you know, occasionally I'll get a mom who's an OTR driver and it's just like, how

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are you out on the road overnight and you're a mom and you're trying to balance all of that, and
that is that's a lot. So shout out to all of the moms in the trucking industry. Do you ever ask
any of those OTR moms how their hairlines doing? Because I feel like they might be pulling it out
every now and then out there on the road? Kelly Cordova, the terminal manager out there

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at Piketon, making her first appearance today. You did awesome, Kelly. Thank you so much for the time.
Final thoughts from you before we let you get back to managing that Piketon terminal. Um, I think
final thoughts would just be you. I agree with everything Rachel and Andrea has said. Um, I have
two amazing women on my driver team. Um, so happy Mother's Day to

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them. Um, my mom was my absolute hero, and I want to
wish her a happy Mother's Day as well. That's awesome. Happy Mother's Day to your mom. From every
one of us here at Always Pneumatic, Never Static as well. Kelly. And, uh, we we greatly appreciate you
joining us today. And I'm sorry that got a little bit emotional, but that's really that that shows

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how much being a mom really means to moms out there. And you illustrated it, Andrea. You
illustrated it. Rachel. You illustrated it perfectly. I couldn't have asked for a better trio
to come on here and do this episode with me today. Andrea. Rachel. Kelly. Happy Mother's Day not only
from everybody here at always pneumatic, never static. But from Marcus this one comes personally

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out to all three of you. Thank you so much for your time today. Please enjoy the time with your
family this Mother's Day. Okay. Thank you, thank you. Thanks, Marcus.
Big thanks to Andrea, Rachel and Kelly there. What a powerful, emotional,

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and just heartwarming episode that we've had for you here today on episode 13 of
Always Pneumatic, Never static. You know, we started this episode talking about a mom, Andrea's mom, who
is helping build something behind the scenes, holding down the house, raising a family, making
sure everything worked even if nobody outside really saw it. And as this conversation went on,

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one thing that became pretty clear is that the story never really changed. It just looks a little
bit different now, Whether it's Andrea carrying forward what her parents built, Rachel figuring it
out as a single mom and making it work no matter what. Or Kelly opening up about what it really
means to give so much of yourself to your kids. The common thread is the same moms show up

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even when it's hard, even when it's messy, even when they're not sure if they're getting it right.
And maybe the most powerful thing we heard today is that none of them are asking for perfection.
They just want their kids to know they tried their best. And if you really think about it, that
might be the most honest, most human version of motherhood there is. So to every mom out there,

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whether you're at home, in the office, behind the wheel, or somewhere in between. Happy Mother's Day
from all of us here at Always Pneumatic, Never Static. Not just me, the guy that you hear from
every day, but all the people behind the scenes like our phenomenal producer Jessica, our amazing
audio editor Mike, our fantastic web guy Tyler and so many more people. Our graphic lady,

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Arie, there's so many people that come into this podcast to make it actually happen. And I want all
of you mothers out there at Bulk and Spur to know every single one of us here behind the scenes is
wishing you a very happy Mother's Day. And we thank you so much, not only for coming on and and
and showing how powerful motherhood really is right here on Always Pneumatic, Never Static. We

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thank you for the privilege to be able to make these episodes. We could not do them without you.
And as you saw today, I've told you before, I am the Steve Nash of this podcast. I am not the star.
And today we had some Caitlin Clark-level stars in here, uh, doing their thing as moms. And I
think that is so cool. I just can't thank Andrea, Rachel, and Kelly enough. Um, thank you for

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everything you carry. Mothers of the world. Thank you for carrying the things that we don't always
see. Thank you for carrying all the things that we do see. And thank you for being our moms. And to
my mom, Ava, who I certainly hope is listening to this one. Happy Mother's Day. Your gift is on the
way if it's not already there, I love you. Thanks for listening to this week's episode of Always

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Pneumatic, Never Static. Everyone that tuned in. We appreciate you greatly. If you're not a mom, maybe
you're a dad. I promise you, we'll get to you in June, okay? Stay safe out there. We'll talk to you
next week. 5 a.m. local time for another episode of Always Pneumatic, Never Static.
And that's all she blows for today's episode of Always Pneumatic, Never Static. Your number one, and

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probably only Pneumatic Trucking podcast, brought to you by Bulk Transit. Thanks for rolling with us
today. Till next time, stay safe, keep those lines clear and keep it pumping.