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October 16, 2025 61 mins

What does it really mean that Jesus is both fully God and fully man? How can He be omnipotent and eternal, yet hunger, sleep, and experience pain?

In this episode, Michael sits down with Lee Jones, co-host of the podcast Redemption Meditations, for a deep yet approachable conversation on the hypostatic union — the mystery of Christ’s two natures united in one Person.

We cover:

  • What the hypostatic union actually means (John 1:14; Philippians 2:6-8)

  • Why Jesus sometimes seemed to “not know” things (Mark 5:30; Mark 13:32; John 11:11-14)

  • Whether He laid aside His divine attributes

  • Why it’s essential to hold His humanity and divinity in perfect balance

  • And how understanding this truth transforms our faith, worship, and view of salvation

This conversation is packed with insight for beginners and theology pros alike — challenging, clarifying, and deeply encouraging.

👉 Learn more about the Hypostatic Union: Theological Primer by Kevin DeYoung (The Gospel Coalition) 🦁 Check out Lee’s podcast: Redemption Meditations 👕 Grab a Michael Heiser T-shirt or other Charismatic Cheetah merch to support the show: charismatic-cheetah.printify.me

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