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.665666667Or maybe you've wondered why your phone suddenly feels slow, your photos won't back up, or you're constantly being told to free up space.,
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The good news, it usually isn't just one thing filling up your phone.
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It's lots of little things, and once you know what they are, they're much easier to tackle.
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Today, we're answering another one of the top Googled iPhone questions.
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Why is my iPhone full? Welcome back to Sorted Out.
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We're Christie and Amanda, childhood best friends turned professional photo organizers, and we are so glad that you're here.
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This podcast is all about photo organizing made simple.
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No guilt, no overwhelm, mixed with real-life mom moments and everyday lessons we're learning right alongside you.
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We're moms, we're busy, and life is messy, and around here, we're focused on progress, not perfection.
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And today we're continuing our summer series where we answer the top three Googled iPhone questions through the lens of photo organizing, of course.
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Our first question was, where are my photos?" Over the past few weeks, We've broken that question down into tiny tasks to help you better understand your photo world.
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Now we're moving on to the second big question: Why is my iPhone full? And just like our last series, today's episode gives you the big picture.
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Then we'll break it down into small, manageable steps that you can actually complete, because a full iPhone isn't usually caused by one huge problem.
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It's usually lots of little storage habits that quietly build up over time.
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And that's good news, because little habits can be changed with little steps.
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Before we get into the question at hand, I have a question for you, Amanda.
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are your plans this summer? are they the same kind of thing you do every year that you would take photos of? Are you sort of expanding outside the box of activities? What's going on in your life? I was not expecting this question.
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We're heading to Ontario, this is something we do every year.
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so I have an idea as far as photos go.
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I do have an idea what I'll probably take photos of and blah blah blah, 'cause we have this annual event, the old ring board tournament at my family's place.
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It's pretty epic.
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So we'll take our photos all around there and our videos and document blah blah blah.
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So that's pretty cool that, you should actually share that in the newsletter because the, the pictures are quite Oh, impressive.
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know.
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It's, I, it, and you know what? It is one of those things where you need pictures to explain it because it's so ridiculous and awesome.
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It's hard to wrap your brain around when I showed Tim the structures that were created so that you guys could play these in the evening/rain, he's like, "Oh my gosh.
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Oh yeah.
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I, that's crazy."
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year it just gets more epic, I don't know if they, construct these all from, like, these arches.
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It's like you, you would be building a house, and you have, I don't know what the proper t- term is.
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You have the arches that, that come in.
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Yeah.
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There's a term for that, but who, who has words? My 48-year-old brain, that makes yeah, and I don't know if they just put them away every year and just bust them out or if they build them from scratch.
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But every year it's just gotten a little bit more advanced because we work around different weather.
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But yeah, and they string up lights.
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There's so many extension cords.
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And one of the years that I returned, 'cause there were many years we couldn't go, it rained all weekend.
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And because they're now kind of more in the country, their neighbor, who's a farmer, had one of these, like, the biggest tarp I've ever seen in my life.
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Like, you could cover a house with it.
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And have a few of those.
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oh my gosh, I had no idea.
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S- and sliding on them.
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yes, yes.
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So we put it over these arches, and then they string it out wide, and they peg it in.
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And we just lived under the tarp with the lights, and we just kept playing all weekend.
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There's a trophy.
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There's a dance party at the end.
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Like, it's an event.
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It's invite only.
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People are very honored to get invited.
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This started with a little tiny family backyard game, I don't know, like 20-something years ago.
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It's crazy.
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It's, it's super cool.
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We actually have that game because Tim saw it years ago when your family was Oh yeah, he just built his own adventures, which was fantastic.
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But when we were camping, all of our neighbors would just hear Oh yeah, it's a bit loud.
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Yeah I'm sure they were like, "Those kids just keep playing that game."
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Oh, yeah.
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It's not a great camping game because, yeah, the sound.
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is.
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We did it for, like, 10 years, but Oh, wow.
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Yeah, it's We call it ring board.
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I don't know if there's another name for it, like Texas something.
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Washers, yeah.
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And yeah, it's these big washers you toss into three holes on a board.
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So the washers hitting the board can be quite loud.
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But I think we get nine boards set up.
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We have a microphone.
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We have white boards that rotate in and out so that we can draw up the next tournament bracket.
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We have A and B championships.
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We do four tournaments a day.
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That's why we need the lights.
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I think my nephew Kyle is the, has the most repeat championships, which is hilarious because we have pictures and we, of course, we run a slideshow now, throughout the day and evening of all the years because these kids were just babies when we started playing, and then they started winning the trophy Right, 'cause they got really good.
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Yeah, they're lifers So, uh, yeah, that's our big event.
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And, we just got back from Vancouver Island, and we did salmon and cod fishing, so that was another big event.
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And, and then otherwise, we get to live in the Okanagan Valley in British Columbia, so it's...
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This is where everyone comes to vacation, so we don't always wanna leave to go vacation because we just-- our life is a vacation here.
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And I'll probably hit up Ottawa as well cause my cousin lives there.
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So yeah, family visiting, outings, maybe Canada's Wonderland if we can squeeze it in.
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The kids are really itching for that.
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And you have your cottage life this summer, Yep.
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realsies of my regular used to stage the welcome home from your last day of school pictures, which don't happen anymore Oh are in, college, university, high school, so it's all different.
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Uh, so that hasn't happened for the last couple years.
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And we used to take a lot of, pool pictures and just random outside pictures.
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But yep, we have the family cottage now, so it's just a lot of pictures of sunsets that I have to rein myself in to stop myself from having to delete the duplicates later.
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Or what looks like a duplicate, yep.
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prettier."
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we're like, "We get it.
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We get it, Chrissy.
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You have awesome zanzats."
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It's hard not to though It's, it's hard not to.
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But having all those duplicates might be part of what we're gonna be talking about today.
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So here is the big question for you, Amanda.
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Mm-hmm.
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is my iPhone full? Because you take too many pictures of sunsets And Chevy in the water.
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and Chevy in the water.
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Delete, Christie.
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Let it go.
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Uh, Don't even delete, just stop taking the picture in the first place well, that's interesting because we've talked about this with several people with the overwhelm stress, the volume, and that some are starting to shift with taking less photos.
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That's okay too.
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I like the idea of go ahead and take those sunset photos, Christie.
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I give you permission.
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'Cause once you take more of them, you might find that you may go back and start to delete some of those 'cause you wanna keep the best of, right? Yeah taking more photos is okay if you're intentional Yes and if any habit, at least keep the delete habit.
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Go in and delete, right? task There taking 10 pictures times five nights of the sunset, then sure sit there and just delete.
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'Cause, you know, sometimes the clouds are really pretty, and I know that it's something a little bit different than I've seen already, I'm also trying to stop myself from doing that so I can actually just enjoy the sunset, because it's different than looking at it through your lens.
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So For sure.
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Yeah, there's, there's that good point of being present, and that's why I think when you're intentional too with your photography, you don't necessarily need to have your camera out all the time.
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No It's like bring it out, document, and put it away and be present.
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The end.
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the moment.
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Yeah Look at us, we got it dialed in.
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There you go.
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Not so much.
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anymore.
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The end.
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Podcast over.
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Thanks, thanks for coming, everyone.
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That's it.
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That was your big takeaway.
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Okay, so, uh, before we move forward with why is my iPhone so full, I just wanna recall a little bit in our last, Tiny Task series, where do my photos live? And previously we mentioned text messages and WhatsApp, these can be sneaky culprits like we discussed with photos being automatically populated into your photos library from WhatsApp, possibly, depending on the settings, or with text messages it can sometimes be confusing if they've actually been imported into your library or if you can just see them there with the Shared With You setting and so on.
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As part of that series as well we talked about shared albums in iCloud, and they don't really negatively affect your storage typically, and they can actually help our storage or are neutral, so we're kind of friends with those shared albums in iCloud.
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But the big culprits can sneak up on you, and we'll introduce those today.
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That will kick off our next mini Tiny Task series.
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Wait a second.
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Yeah, I do Do we just call it a Tiny Task series, or is mini and tiny too redundant? As I just said, the mini tiny task, 'cause the tasks are tiny, but the series is mini, so I feel like we need both I didn't think there was anything wrong with it when you said it, so Our mini tiny task series.
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Love Anyway, iPhone, lays out great visual representation of your storage.
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So we definitely recommend going to hang out in that part of the settings occasionally to check it out and think about it.
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Even without completing any storage cleanup, you can just go hang out there and see what your storage ratios look like.
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It's quite user-friendly, you just go in, settings, general, iPhone storage.
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You go in there and you get a feel for how you might be able to clean up your iPhone, even if you don't have any previous knowledge.
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But of course, we're going to help you break it down into some tiny tasks.
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So question for you, Christie.
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Mm-hmm.
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When you go into settings, into that iPhone storage area, Yeah know, at the bottom, you can start to see the lists of apps that show you how much storage they all take up.
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What are the top apps taking up storage on your phone? Let's go top five I thought this was quite interesting 'cause I haven't been in here for a while.
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And, for anybody who missed what Amanda just said, like to go to general, iPhone, that kind of thing, if you just go into your settings down at the bottom of the search, what is that? Search bar.
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You can just type iPhone storage, and it will take you to that spot as well.
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Oh, good one.
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Yeah, that's right just because I love the trail of how to get to things with your iPhone, but sometimes like, "Uh-oh, where did I go? How do I get there?" You can just do that.
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I do that a lot actually.
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That's a good point.
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Sometimes you-- if you forget the path, like you said, you just Yeah the search thing.
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I do that with my apps in general a lot, and I'm like, "I don't know where it's stored anymore."
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I just pull down the search and look for that particular app.
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Exactly.
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All right, as you were my iPhone storage, I thought this was quite, interesting.
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My top five are my Photos app, obviously; iMovie, which I thought was funny, I haven't used that for a while; Messages; Podcasts; Netflix.
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Oh, good It's funny because obviously I use my Photos and Messages app all the time, but the other ones, I don't feel like I use them very often.
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So I just don't think I'm in apps as much as, maybe some other people are, Right.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And how much storage do each of those apps take, just out of curiosity? Okay.
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Photos, 138 gigabyte.
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iMovie, 69 gigabyte.
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We did use it for Memory Momentum back in the day, so there's stuff in there that I probably need to get rid of, but I haven't yet, uh, out of, uh, fear, I might say, or Mm-hmm.
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might use it It's just, and we haven't tasked it, right? We're like, "Ugh."
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Yeah, it, because the storage isn't bothering you, you can just leave it there.
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You're like, "Another day to deal with."
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if...
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Exactly, if storage was an issue, I'd be like, "Okay, let's go through Totally Uh, messages, which I know I have to go in and clean up, is 66.9
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gigabytes.
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Podcast is 16.7
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gigabytes, and Netflix is 4.41
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gigabytes.
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Most of it's my photos, obviously.
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was your podcast again? Uh, 16.7.
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Mm-hmm I ha- kind of had the same experience.
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I hadn't been in there in a little while, and probably many of you haven't if you have an iPhone that has plenty of storage, right? Because ja we don't go investigate often until we have to "Hey, iPhone's getting too full."
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Just quickly, my top five-ish were, Mylio, which is another photos app I use, which we're not gonna confuse any of you with that, but I'm a photo organizer, so there are reasons behind that.
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It's number one because I have my entire collection Okay.
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in Mylio, and like bigger old film movies and all that stuff, but that's even optimized.
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It's not like my f- my collection is only 33 gigs.
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Like that's still optimized 'cause it's on my phone.
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So my photos app is actually only eight gigabytes, and...
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for you No, it's 'cause it's optimized.
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So you- yours probably isn't optimized.
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You probably have all the originals on your phone because you can, right? Yeah.
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I have most of them.
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I have some of them that are optimized, but most of them are on my phone, yeah And you've also previously had horrible internet at your house.
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So Correct an optimized collection is not always ideal because just to look at a photo, it has to pull it down from iCloud over Wi-Fi, which is excruciating if you're ever at Kristi's house.
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Actually, now it'll be fine.
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She got new Wi-Fi.
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We're all good and I actually thought to myself, "Why don't I have everything optimized?" But thank you for reminding me.
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You're right.
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We were, like, in the Dark Ages until about three weeks ago.
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Yeah, not even joking but again, if you can house the originals on your phone and still have lots of space, then by all means, the more originals locally, the better.
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So that's okay to keep that until you wanna change it.
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My next one was WhatsApp, and it was only four gigabytes, And so, spoiler alert, I actually didn't have WhatsApp on the list of things we were going to task down to tiny tasks for why is my iPhone full? But guess what? WhatsApp is on the list now because I found a new way to deal with the storage that I did not know until I was doing the work for this podcast.
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So there you go.
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WhatsApp Well, will be on the list again I'm excited because when I scroll down my list of apps, I do have WhatsApp on there, and Yeah use it for my other job, and now I'm curious, to see how I can clean that up.
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So that's great Yeah.
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'Cause I totally thought it was like Messenger or something, Facebook Messenger, that it didn't necessarily affect your storage when people sent you links and videos and everything.
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And I had to do a little research as to how to actually clear that storage, so there you go.
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That will be on the list, yeah.
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Mm-hmm Uh, for me, Notes, but I use Notes a lot, for different reasons and professional reasons, so, that's probably more of an anomaly for other people.
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Music and Podcast was up there as well for me.
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We don't really get into podcasts.
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We will talk about apps as to why my iPhone is so full, but this is where you kinda wanna hang out to get a bit of a summary, and you might surprise yourself.
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For me, music was a surprise, and I'll tell you why really quickly, momentarily.
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But I just wanna throw out some honorable mentions.
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I actually thought that would be more because we use Voice Memos a lot for Memory Momentum as well.
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Yeah, I got a 1.24.
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Mm-hmm yeah, and Candy Crush came in at a whopping two gigabytes Oh, I don't have any games on my list Candy Crush.
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Why do you need so much? What's going on? Oh, sorry.
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I do have Candy Crush, but it's way down the list, and it's 450 megabytes.
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Probably 'cause your streak is really small and you haven't opened it in years.
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Not me though, I'm still, over here working.
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Candy Crush is like, "Sit down, read a book for me."
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I can't do that either.
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No, That is so true.
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Uh, so just a side note, music, which...
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What did I say? Okay, music and podcasts were only 2.5,
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but guess what? It was originally at 20 gigabytes, and I was like, "What the heck?" Uh, do you use Apple Music at all? Do you listen to music when you drive and stuff like that? Um, it, well this is the weird thing, and my kids will say I'm weird.
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I do listen to music when I drive, but I usually just go to YouTube.
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That was very much a thing for quite a while not to digress too much, but when we were in that technological void with music where we didn't really use CDs anymore, but we couldn't...
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Streaming wasn't really a thing, and I was like, "Where and how do I get my music, and how do I listen to it on the regular other than the radio?" And I know YouTube, uh, still is, but did become very much like a playlist solution for people Yeah.
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Well, my kids have Spotify, and I'm sure there's some sort of Spotify family group thingy, but, we don't wanna pay for it.
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So we do sometimes log into their Spotify when we're out, four-wheeling or something, but it Yeah so I'm just like, "Ah, whatever."
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I'm just on my way to work or I'm listening to some murder mystery, and I can listen to all of it on YouTube.
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Well, w-we're a big Apple Music family, and when you add music in Apple, you go to add a song or an album to your playlist, and there's the little plus sign.
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So I click on the plus sign, and then there's that icon that is the download icon, right? The arrow down.
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I'm like, "I don't wanna download music to my devices.
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I just want it in my Apple Music library."
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That's kinda how that works.
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So I was like, "How is this taking up 20 gigabytes if I don't have anything downloaded?" I investigated a little bit more and, I found out that I had automatic downloads turned on Hmm.
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So when I found it in that storage place, I just can click right on the Music app, and then it shows me all the settings and whatnot.
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And I was like, "Well, when did that go on?" Because it's never been a priority.
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So my point is tech changes and sometimes updates and defaults do too.
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I wanna free up this 20 gigs of space.
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I have tons of room available on my phone, but that doesn't mean I want things cluttering it up still, right? And I'm like, "No, I wanna clean this up."
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So I turned off automatic downloads, but that only affects the future, and I had to go investigate, how do I get rid of that 20 gigs, essentially.
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So my point is, when you go in there and you kinda hang out, you might come across something that, um, kerfuddles? What's the word? Kerfuddles.
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I think everyone's gonna understand me if I say kerfuddles you.
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I understand you And it's easy at that point for sometimes our feelings to become a little frustrated with like, ah, there's so much to know, and I, how do I fix this? That is when you tiny task that to the next segment of time where you can just sit down for another 10 or 20 minutes and literally just tiny task yourself "I'm going to investigate my Music app storage the next 10 minutes that I set aside in my life."
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Now, for me, I actually had to investigate it because I had to prepare for the podcast.
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But that is exactly what I would do if I was over my original tiny task time to just go hang out in my settings.
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I would leave myself a little note for what to do next.
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And again, these are just habits and strategies we're trying to build so that tech becomes more familiar to us and we understand how our photos and how our storage works, so it doesn't feel overwhelming.
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'Cause when it gets to the overwhelming, we avoid and we procrastinate.
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And I think, Our iPhones are so much bigger now when it comes to storage than when they first came out when you and I first had, like, these little tiny, what, 5s or whatever they were.
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Yeah and I feel like intentionally going in and doing some investigating and looking at some of your apps or, looking at your storage might not seem important in this moment, but when Christmas morning comes and we're trying to take those pictures and you get that Oh, your iPhone's full," and you're like, "Oh my gosh."
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It's trying to stop that from happening as well because Even though our storage is bigger, you could get into that, situation where it's completely full and you didn't really know, and now you're trying to take a picture of something that you can't get back and you can't take Totally yeah, a little bit of maintenance.
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You don't have to do everything all at once, but, just doing a little bit here and there to maintain some of your storage for the important moments.
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Especially, like you said, our phones have so much more storage capacity now that if we do let it get fuller, we have a lot of work to do compared to what we had to do before Yeah, before it was like every couple months you'd be like, "Oh gosh, I'm getting full again."
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Now it could be years, and then all of a sudden you're in a pickle.
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Yeah, and, and you're trying to learn too much and do too much all at once where it becomes overwhelming really, really quickly.
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So Yeah moral of the story, I have a ton of storage capacity on my phone, but I still do house cleaning all the time, like house cleaning in my phone, because I like to strive to keep it minimalist.
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Digital clutter is mental clutter, like more than ever.
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Yeah Just because we have the space doesn't mean we need to fill the space.
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I think of this in terms of if you were to buy a huge house, would you feel good about filling it up with stuff because now you have the space for more stuff? Or would you value keeping it tidy and orderly so it's easy to find and use what you want and need and move around? That's kind of the mindset we're trying to teach is we want abundant space, but not abundant stuff or clutter.
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Less clutter is less searching, is less sifting, is less filtering, is less decision-making.
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And just because our machines can search for things faster doesn't mean we need to fill it up with more stuff to search through This really does make a difference in the brain.
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And if we think about when you have some big task, whether it be photos or your basement or the garage or whatever it is, personally, if I have something like that's quite large to tackle, I find a lot of other things that are very important to do before I Right But yet it's sitting in my brain.
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I'm just like, "Oh my gosh."
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But once I get in there I start to organize, do whatever it is that I'm doing, I just feel so much better.
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I mean, yes, you still have a lot of stuff to do, but you just feel better because at least you've taken that step forward Exactly.
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That little momentum piece.
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I have been tiny tasking things and using it.
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I know as organizers, I think we do a lot of this maybe naturally, but even having language to it, it's just brought everything to the forefront for me as of late.
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Like, I have some,, cleanup projects in our basement.
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You know, the kids have really grown out of a lot of stuff and when your week is so full and busy and you're like, "Okay, that's a project for the weekend," but then your weekend is busy.
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Literally I've been chipping away in 20 minute...
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It's not as satisfying perhaps, but now weeks have gone by, and that's built up to, over an hour of work done, and you can physically start to see progress.
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I'm like, "Yes, tiny task.
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Thank you for staying in the forefront."
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How far can you break it down into a tiny task where you will actually do it now, no matter how busy you are or the conversation in your head? Just tiny it down It is.
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It's a conversation in your head.
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That's the key right there.
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And Mm-hmm I mean, uh, everybody else out there, you're thinking the same thing, but it's the conversation in my head Yep, for sure.
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If you can give yourself 10 minutes, if you can give yourself five minutes.
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Call it your iPhone time, call it your declutter time, whatever seems to click to help you stay motivated.
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Yeah, exactly Okay, so to help move into the era of less, ah, I love less, the topics in the next segment of our tiny task series for why is my iPhone full, and how to free it up, of course, will be, this started with three, and now it's up to five.
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I got a little carried away.
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There's so many things to talk about Okay.
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Text message convos, kind of an obvious one.
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Like you said, yours was way up there, right? 60-something or whatever.
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Uh, and to be honest, I actually just dealt with this recently, and it's really, really hard at times,.
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i don't know if you have pinned text message convos in your phone.
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I just deleted some of them and started over 'cause I was like everybody shares...
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There's so much in there Yeah, I know that I have a problem here, I'm fully aware of it, and I do go in there and delete, uh, but I obviously go in there and delete more, Yeah, it's just, it's just house cleaning, housekeeping, house cleaning, whatever.
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Uh, next one, photos library, of course.
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You know, why it's full and that could be a big culprit.
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Uh, live photos.
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So we're gonna get a little more specific into the photos, and it gets its own tiny task because live photos is one of those sneaky culprits as well.
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Yes Even sometimes in the past, with, updates, live photo can kinda sneak on there as well, so we'll talk about that one.
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That one there, I remember when, I think Tim had a update or whatever, he's like, "I don't understand what my photos are doing."
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I do get pictures sent to me from my kids, and I do like that I can see the little action shot before the still.
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and place, Absolutely.
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Um, WhatsApp is back.
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Like I said, it was not even on here, and then I was like, "Ah, I did not know about this little section."
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So yep, secret storage space, we're gonna help you clear that up.
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And general app cleanup, and again, this made the list because of the little rabbit hole I went down with music in particular.
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Podcast might be one for some, Netflix, et cetera, et cetera.
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So yep, this is a big one.
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Like, it's worth the five little tiny tasks, because the storage really is so important.
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Again, even if you have that capacity, we still want you to declutter and keep it tidy and clean.
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And now to finish up, we can't wait to give you more tiny tasks throughout the summer to help you free the phone and, you know, declutter your mental space too.
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Trust me, the digital decluttering is a mental decluttering.
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It really, really is It, for sure is, yeah I love it.
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And we want you to stay that way because you'll understand your tech just that little bit more, and well, we love a tidy phone Yes, we do if today's episode showed you one thing, it's that a full iPhone isn't usually about one giant cleanup.
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It's about understanding where your storage is being used and making a few small changes over time.
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That's exactly what we're gonna do next.
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Over the next several tiny tasks, we'll tackle one storage topic at a time, from cleaning up text messages and managing your photos library, to understanding live photos, WhatsApp storage, and other apps that quietly take up your space.
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You don't have to fix your entire phone this week.
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Just take one tiny step.
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And if you're enjoying this series, we'd love it if you follow the podcast so you don't miss the next tiny task.
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If you have any questions you'd like us to answer in a future episode, send it our way.
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Some of our best episode ideas come from real questions from real people, because chances are, if you're wondering about it, so is somebody else.
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Take what fits, leave what doesn't, and we'll see you next time on Sorted Out.