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Music.
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Welcome to Merman Mondays, the podcast where the Little Mermen share behind-the-scenes
tour stories, discuss popular Disney content, and celebrate Disney's musical legacy.
I'm your host, Alexis Babini, founder of the Little Merman Band.
And joining me is our co-host, Andrew Grau.
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Thanks, Alexis. Alexis, whether you're a longtime fan or first time dreamer,
The Little Merman is the country's premier Disney tribute band bringing the
magic of Disney music to life with live performances all across the US and the world.
Our mission with this podcast is to connect with our fans on a deeper level,
give a behind the scenes glimpse at touring in an indie rock band and share
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in the joy that is Disney content and culture.
Today we have an incredibly special guest with us, Chelsea Zeno.
She is the longest tenured princess with the Mermen.
You may have seen her recently starring as Lauren in Kinky Boots and Vanessa
in In the Heights, as well as our Moana, our Daisy Duck, Mulan, or Pocahontas.
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We're going to learn about Che's history, both Disney and non.
We're going to ask some fun tour moments and gush about how much we love Chelsea for Chelsea.
Stay tuned to find where you can connect with us and get into deeper band and lore.
Well, before we go to the distance, we are still a touring band with some shows
coming up. So let's get down to business.
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On Saturday, July 13th, Summer Sizzle Concert Series, Ruby Deer Park in New
Rock City, New Rochelle, New York.
Tuesday, July 16th, Clearfield County Fair, Clearfield, PA.
Thursday, July 18th, Jenkinson's Bork Walk, and that is Point Pleasant,
New Jersey, back at Jenks.
Saturday, July 20th, Echo Lake Park, that is Mountainside, New Jersey.
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I got Got some friends. Show them for that one. Woot woot.
Sunday, July 21st, Winchendon Community Park Amphitheater. That is Winchendon, Massachusetts.
Thursday, July 25th, Hard Rock Cafe and my very own Pittsburgh PA.
Friday, July 26th, Fountain Park in Van Wert, Ohio. Can't wait to go back.
Saturday, July 27th, North Park, Springsboro, Ohio.
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What is that? Four years strong? We love Springsboro. It's great.
Sunday, July 28th, Theater at Center. That is Munster, Indiana.
Thursday, July 8th, that is the Thursday, August 8th. I apologize about that.
That is Iowa State Fairgrounds in Des Moines, Iowa.
And then the next day on Friday, the August 9th as well, we're in Iowa State
Fairgrounds. Then Saturday, the 10th, we're going to be the Festival Park in Elgin, Illinois.
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And last date just for this little run, Saturday, August 17th,
the Epstein Family Amphitheater in San Diego, California.
So more information like ticket links or RSVP links can be found on our website
at thelittlemermen.com slash tickets.
All right. So today's episode is our special guest. So let's dive in. Hey, Chelsea. Chelsea.
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Hi, everyone. I'm Chelsea. I grew up in Lodi, New Jersey.
Go the misfits. As they said in the intro, I recently played Lauren in Kinky
Boots in a theater in Connecticut called ACT.
I also played Vanessa at Gateway Playhouse in Long Island.
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I played Vanessa two times before that at Pennsylvania Shakespeare Festival,
where you guys came and came to see me, which was really good. I was such a great chef.
And at White Plains Performing Arts Center.
Yeah. Yeah. And how I got involved with the band. Wow. Okay. So it's been...
2017 was the first one I want to say. 17? That's seven years. Seven years.
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I've been with the band for seven years. My first gig was at Irving Plaza. Was that where it was?
I'm going to forget the names of where we played because it is all a wash.
It's been a long time. Yeah, it's a lot. So first gig was at Irving Plaza and
the way it was set up was there was a princess for each song.
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So I was just Pocahontas that night.
I don't think I sang backup or anything. I was just Pocahontas.
I was just there to do Colors of the Wind. Wow.
Which is still Chelsea's favorite song, everybody. I love singing that song.
And also, just for everyone to note, Chelsea also does have Native American
background. So it's not like we're just being like, you're the diversity highlight.
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Chelsea actually has that part to it. Yeah, I do have Taino in my ancestry.
Yeah, so don't come for us. Do not come for Chelsea. Oh my gosh,
it's okay. It's all right.
Yeah, so I only played Pocahontas. LOL, I made my own costume.
It was, I thought it was so jank, But I showed up and Lex was like,
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yeah, you know, you're excited about it. So I was like, all right, let's do this.
And yeah, after that, you're like, oh, we're turning it into just a two princess band.
Right. The touring version. Gotta tighten it up. Two princess bands.
So yeah, I've just been doing that for seven years. Seven years straight.
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No days off. Every single day. Chelsea wakes up. She goes to the Mermaid Factory. She clocks in.
My hair, I put on my Moana wig and I'm off.
But I will say, out of all of the cast of characters that you have played,
just within the context of the Merman, who's your favorite princess to be? Oh, definitely Moana.
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She's, yeah, I think she's the coolest. Yeah. She's the most recent one.
And you crushed that song. The song, yeah. If you want to see Chelsea as Moana
crushing that song, it is up on YouTube, on our YouTube page.
Yeah, check it out. We have that, like, when we were all doing the pandemic
stuff at that studio in Chelsea, Midtown area.
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So if you're one of our Patreon subscribers, we're going to also drop that with this episode.
Get those Patreon extras. Check it out. So.
You get offered this role that would turn out to be a role of a lifetime, right? Truly.
Now, what was your kind of alignment with Disney as a kid? Were you super into Disney?
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Did you have a favorite movie? What was your history with Disney beforehand?
Because I think there's only been one person who's come through the band that
I've met who actively does not like Disney music and still did it anyways.
And I feel like most everybody else that we get is super into Disney,
or at least has as a favorite growing up and is like kind of into that so just
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kind of give us like the history with disney yeah i liked disney growing up
i had minnie mouse comforter nice when i was a kid.
Yeah i loved all the disney princesses little mermaid i think she was my first
and favorite sure i had the mulan soundtrack i remember that listening to that
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over and over again with With big headphones.
Yeah, Donny Osmond. What a great singer. So fun.
Yeah, I was always a Disney fan. I
didn't go to Disney until I was like a teenager, until I was 14, I think.
And I remember it being the most magical place.
Yeah. And then just touring with shows and stuff is when I would go back. So, yeah.
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That's the only time I'd be. Whenever I was in Florida, I'd be like,
okay, if I'm in Orlando, I gotta go to Disney.
Yeah i'm gonna find someone that like works
at the park that could yeah you know hook it up with tickets or you
know i don't know always find some way to
get there say one of the one of the things that we really haven't talked
about too much just in general as the band is that we've been
very lucky that we have such great fans that have
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offered us uh ways to get to the park so usually
when we're down in florida we get to go to disney and this last time
we did go to disney all together it was very fun it's
true i think we've been maybe three or four times total
has been yes three four times totally favorite when we all go
together yeah because we're in a good time because it's also like
you know chelsea and i specifically are big
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cut-ups like we have we have a whole thing where we we ride
in the back of the van we call it grouchy and we're just like in sync with our
weirdness and we kind of pick up on each other's strangeness and when that translates
to real life everyone else is like what is wrong with you all we're just laughing
our faces off so that's it's a lot of fun that is and laughs in the back the
laughs in the back We'll get to that a little bit later.
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We like to save bits towards the end, but I do want to hear a really cool tour story that you have.
This can either be a tour story that was really powerful to you,
like it was a moment that was great, or it was a moment that you were like,
I definitely want to do this.
Or it could have even been like a hard moment that you kind of pushed through
and you saw the other side and you're saying, wow, that was really cool.
Man, I don't remember the name of the place.
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Actually, it's not even about like the theater. It's where we stayed.
It was on one of the long stints. You're like, near a lake.
Oh, was it when we were on family dinner?
It was Lake Superior right after
we did Lord Chautauqua. We played Lake Chautauqua and we stayed at Airbnb.
Crossed from like that woman with the cat. Yes. Oh, yeah, that was.
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Like we we did family dinner. We played games. Yeah. Like switched clothes.
That was the first time being silly together. That was the second time we did
21 because that trip was the first time we all did 21 in Ironwood.
And then the next day when we stayed at when we stayed
at because we played because we did ironwood and then we played chautauqua
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and then we or we played chautauqua then we played ironwood and then we played
something else but it was like the eagleton to the pawnee oh yeah and then we
stayed at that place yeah i know exactly what you're talking about yeah yeah
just yeah fun bonding time we had the lake nearby yeah we all pitched in and
did food we played games i think was there
an org i think yeah there was a surprise organ in the basement ryan kept finding these.
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For our listeners ryan our our first
chair keyboardist kept finding these like surprise organs
and like old-timey pianos at these theaters and b&b's and they let him play
it and he would and this is when we were learning we this is the summer that
we started doing we don't talk about bruno like we started doing that song right
and so rye guy would always play play a different organ version of it.
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And it was it was really fun.
Yeah, I think we have we have a clip of Ryan playing surface pressure with this
old timey organ from this Airbnb.
And there's a foot switch that is like triggering the chord.
So yeah, again, our Patreon subscribers subscribe, and we're gonna drop all
these extras around the podcast. So cool.
Yeah, that was a really that was a generally really fun trip.
Because I know for me, my first interaction with Chelsea ever was I I was still
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just a sub and I had signed up to do this back when Derek was playing piano.
And we played at the New Jersey, the South Orange, New Jersey Performing Arts Center.
It's like the movie theater that also has that. And I was still just like a sub in the band.
And I was like, oh, I could totally take the train out. But I was like,
yeah, I haven't seen these guys in a while.
And it was actually like one of the first times I really like kind of met Chelsea.
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And I could tell it was like, oh, she's kind of weird. I like this. This is fun.
But I didn't want to push too hard because I was like, I'm just a sub.
I might not see anybody ever again but i remember that
that show was just like so fun and crushed and i was like yeah chelsea kind
of rocks and so i kind of made it my mission to be like all right i'm gonna i'm gonna
make chelsea warm up to me because i want to be weird yeah
we're all so very weird these days so we're
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completely warm i mean i'm regularly normal
no it's not one so i do i do have one more question before you get into kind
of like bits and like shenanigans because that's kind of what makes these kind
of makes the whole performance and being in a band makes it even more What was
your preconceived notion about this group and what has it evolved into in your
mind? Oh, wow. Yeah, when...
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The first thing I was thinking was the name, Little Mermen. So I was like,
oh, we're all, it was a band of men originally.
Like, I really didn't understand that at first.
And then we did the gig and I was like, oh, okay, it's just the name.
And yeah, it's evolved into, even like since I've started, it's evolved into
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more of like a rock, you know? And like, we've really, you know,
sat in all the music and made it our own.
And yeah, it's really special now. Yeah.
And now someone obviously with a theater background like yourself,
who would you say like you're kind of where you draw your influences from when you're doing this show?
Because this is for those of you that don't already listen to The Little Merman
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or follow us, you might be in for a surprise.
We're not just doing straight up orchestral covers. We actually do rock versions
of just about everything.
So like where do you kind of draw your influences to kind of bring it to this show?
Out well i listen to usually the pop covers as well as like the original right
right i love listening to like paramore because she's just a rock girly yeah
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so yeah that's that's our surface pressure it's the most paramore of our songs
yeah that's great all right chelsea now here's where the fun part gets in funny bits.
Music.
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Chelsea and I, Grouchy, we have a lot of our own bits and one that I totally
forgot about. We did pretty much all of 2022 because Chelsea and I were both
going through personal things and we commiserated by anything that was a straight object.
We would pretend we were stabbing each other and we'd just go,
die, die, die, die, die, die, die, die, die, die. And like, I've never understood
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this. I need this to be explained to me.
Okay. So basically, I don't know.
There was just like a toothpick nearby at one of the diner stops.
And I turned to growl and said, die, die, die, die, die, die, die, die.
And now it's just become a bit. Like if it's there, then we have to die, die, die.
Yeah. We would take like straws and we'd be like, on guard, die, die, die, die, die.
I mean, like pretend to sword fight, but then we'd die, die,
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die, die, die. It's so funny. My mom was telling me about her job.
They have, she and her friend have a thing called step, step,
step, step, step. And I was like, what does this mean? Growl, die, die, die.
Like how? Like mother, like daughter. I mean,
sometimes it's like when you, when you've like listened to all the
podcasts cash you feel like listening to and we've already
played what a fool believes 10 times now in
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the car that song gets heavy rotation and
we love michael mcdonald we love the dubie brothers and we
love all of our steely dan but i'm ready
for a yacht rock yacht rock break but very much ready for a yacht rock break
but it's like chelsea and i have found ways to keep it fun and like weird but
also like sleep pretty definitely we like are able to like keep to ourselves
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and then yeah yeah yeah headphone moment big boy,
can we tell our listeners what pig boy is
yes please Alexis alright the popular
Zelda game which I believe is called tears of the kingdom that's right also
Ryan our keyboard player is a big Zelda guy and I think Cody too so yeah we
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were staying at an Airbnb and we had the video gaming console up and growls
characters Zelda has like a some type of like pig hat,
And so just like offhandedly, I was like, what's this game? The Adventures of Pig Boy.
And from that day forward, it has no longer been called Zelda.
It has been called Pig Boy.
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Pig Boy. Pig Boy. What's it? Like a boar hat or something? Yeah,
it was just like a hat. It was just like something I did for beating something.
And it was also funny, too, because this is my- Bird flies.
It was just like one of the things I purchased for myself, thinking I'm going to use this on tour.
I'm going to use it on tour all the time. but i just it's.
My first zelda game i'm the neophyte when it comes to that and just
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it just evolved into me always wearing this
pig hat even if it's a detriment to me being
the game because i have to be pig boy both both
chelsea and alexis are good about being like how's pig boy yeah so
it's fun to watch like if you're just sitting there and yeah i
need to look at something else than the out the
window that was like that was like the whole impetus because it
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was like a a full day off in fox like unfortunately chelsea wasn't with
us on that but we had made like mimosas that morning and we
were kind of chilling and then everyone was kind of coming back with
like a giant amount of pizzas and i was just like kind of like
boy and i ended up just being very fun but we should get
back to fun chelsea things so alexis uh tell
us tell us a chelsea memory that you particularly realized oh
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oh my gosh there's so many so okay
let me think here i'm gonna have to go to
maybe my first first era of
chelsea and you know it's been seven years so
we've like known each other through some many different times here
but i i'm sorry chelsea i
gotta go i gotta go barf award i
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i sincerely apologize so for our listeners we do an award ceremony every year
with all our band members all the lineup from the past year and previous And
it's sort of like molded around the Dundies from the office.
Mermies. That's true. They're called the Mermies. And a lot of our first chair,
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longtime tenured Mermen got multiple awards.
So Ryan got an award for our time playing the Dallas Texas State Fair that takes
place in Dallas, the largest state fair in the world.
And yeah, we just, you know, went super hard. I think he got food poisoning.
So yeah, so essentially we had to leave the next day after we played this great
big fair. We had to catch a plane.
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Ryan's in the back being like, I need you guys to pull over right now.
And just imagine this is like dawn in Dallas. The sun is rising.
Cody, our drummer, many times is our driver. So he lets Ryan out on this bridge
and then we pull the van over around the bridge so we can all kind of see Ryan
on the bridge. We're worried about our boy.
And I just remember looking out and seeing the Lion King sunrise coming up and
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seeing the silhouette of Ryan blowing chunks over the bridge. Ryan, we love you.
And so anyways, at our at our Murmy award ceremony, Ryan got the award for best barf of the year.
But then right afterwards, we go the best barf of all time. Yes.
Goes to Miss Chelsea Zeno.
And this is one of my Chelsea highlight for me. And also it really shows just
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like, shall I say how you can step it up and just like really like bring it out.
We were playing a show years ago and I think it was on the West Coast. I think it was.
Seller in Colorado because it was the elevation. Yeah, the elevation got you.
Oh, okay. Yes, that's what it was. It was the elevation.
And so, you know, we all went in and I believe there was a brewery called Ursula's.
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We should have known. We should have known Ursula was going to get us.
I only remember this because we went to Ursula's Brewery And then I think when
we had dinner Provided for us they took us to a place called Pinocchio So I
just thought that was of note Being a Disney tribute band.
So anyway, cut to the show a day after we hit the brewery and,
you know, Chelsea's kind of feeling it, feeling under the weather.
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And it's just the way that she would like leave the stage when it wasn't her
time to sing, when it was like Carly taking lead on a song.
Chelsea was like taking care of her business, barfing into a bag.
And the second it was time for Chelsea
to like sing a song, she would like reappear, be a superstar power.
Like no one had any idea she was struggling. struggling and then
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like you know the second she had a moment to perhaps leave
the stage and take care of chelsea health she would do so and
and cody you know cody mentioned this too yeah
just like he because cody was cody had a view of
chelsea in the wings of the this big theater so he saw the full like you know
i was kind of like facing the audience and trying to remember chords and whatnot
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but cody from his drum throne could see the whole thing unfold and i think that
that was when cody was just like wow chelsea's magic i didn't know this is humanly
possible you could do this.
You know what's funny i actually have a chelsea barf story too oh my god,
this is i have what i have yeah yeah all right we're going this was this was 2020,
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and we brought up this epitomous a springboro gig that had drew coles and josh
bailey on it It was Alexis, myself, Derek, I believed it.
No, it was Drew Coles because no Derek. And then Chelsea was on this.
And this is, mind you, my second or third time meeting Chelsea ever.
And she's in the back. And I kind of noticed, hey, Chelsea, okay.
You're like, I'm going to throw up. And he just grabbed a plastic bag and was
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like, oh, no. I'm in the back.
And the director was like, hey, Chelsea, you okay?
You're like, sorry, I just threw up. It's okay.
And I'm like, no, no, no, it's okay. So we pulled over and you like.
Threw out the bag yeah yeah i just threw up it's okay guys
i was just like still five hours from ohio just
like oh wow shit we're starting on it we're starting off
strong that's one thing i try to do is like throw up and
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like get back to business yeah well that
colorado was the worst yeah i mean especially on that gig i
think that was a generally just a tough trip for a lot of people
and you you absolutely crushed it so i was so impressed by
just how professional you are that you literally can
have everything going wrong and you're like but i'm
a professional and you you show up and it's like crushed so word
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to the wise don't drink a lot the day you get
to colorado because the elevation will see you
up yeah exactly but yeah just do you
have a bar story oh yeah i was gonna say i can't remember where
we were somewhere in florida and me and derrick were walking to meet
you somewhere and derrick
was telling me a story and i was like feeling it
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i was like oh man i know i have to throw up excuse me and
literally like there's a garbage like on the corner i was like vomit
and like wipe my face we just we had just gotten starbucks
wipe my face and i'm like i'm so sorry like he
was talking as he's talking like i couldn't listen i was like oh
no like he's getting the hot salivas oh no oh god.
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Can't wait to have derrick on the pod can't wait to have ryan on
the pod yeah just for our listeners so derrick
was uh our keyboardist right when we started touring and
Derek also shout out to Derek Bishop he he
owns a great business called Queer Cards this is
greeting cards for for the non-cis if
you go to like a Duane Reade you seem to find kind of heteronormative
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cards and also he's he has another thing called Peachy
King so a lot of like pride apparel and
pride greeting cards so shout out to Derek and let's have him
on the pod soon yeah so kind of the last bit and
we I've kind of pushed this off because it's quite a
loud bit but one of my favorite bits that
i get to do with chelsea and i feel very lucky to is that
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chelsea has supported one of
my longest running impressions i don't know why i'm beating around the bush
on this i love doing the ray romano impression no yeah and the the band the
band has been supportive of this bit that i stole from my old roommate and myself in a band,
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and just showing up to rehearsal and going, Hey, Ray!
Debra! Debra! And so when I brought it to the band, there was immediate backlash,
but then I just kept going, or like, Debra!
And then the first person to really take the mantle was Chelsea.
I did. I guess Anne did. I did. I mean, I was saying Debra, which is not even the line.
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Debra. I don't think he's ever said Debra. No, but it's so great because it's
like, the whole car will just go, Debra!
And then you just hear, Debra! By Chelsea. so you may know that it's Chelsea.
Honestly, it starts out like...
I don't know, like The Electric Slide or like Mambo No. 5.
It's like, I don't want to do this. And then you're like in it.
And then it's like, oh, it's kind of fun. And like, why not?
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And then everyone's talking like this.
Or it's pretty good. Ray Romano. Has become a full Robert Debra bit.
Robert Debra. And now Chelsea and I have every time we're on stage and you see us,
if you ever see us live and we're talking, it's we're just replacing lyrics
with deborah ray robert ma very that yeah so
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yeah we'll have to we'll have to do we'll have to do a whole podcast
on the patreon like ray if only we had a nickel for every deborah then we'd
be able to tour in our private oh my god i'm just most concerned that ray romano
somehow hears about this it's like hey what are you guys doing but she would
yeah sponsor us he'll come on the pod for sure i mean it's it's all a place of it's all a place
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of love because i i actually really like i actually really like
everybody loves raymond as a tv show and it's i
actually made i actually made my partner watch it over thanksgiving because
they were just doing holiday episodes and those are always on hinge and it was
on tv land and i'm just like hey man i'm sorry i'm gonna make you watch this
and i tried not to ray to it through much and she was like she's like i understand
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your impression's good this is a lot i'm like Like,
if only Ray Romano was in a Disney franchise and didn't pick the Ice Age Dreamworks. Oh, you're right.
It's a real shame. But anyways, Chelsea, thank you for being my Debra. And I'm Ray.
So we're going to close out. But before we do, Chelsea, where can people find
you? Do you have any upcoming shows that are not Merman related that you'd like
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to talk about? Do you want people to find you on social media?
How can people find you and connect with you and tell you that you're amazing and wonderful?
And you do amazing things. Thanks. Follow me on Instagram at Chelsea underscore Zeno.
I have Distant Thunder coming up. Yes. Native American musical.
It'll be at ART in September and October.
That's right. I remember when you were talking to me about that when we went
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to go get our promo shots done over in Long Island City. And we were like,
yeah, I'm gone for like six months.
I was so excited for you. Yeah, I've also been doing that for a while on and off.
It actually during the pandemic, like right before I was in Oklahoma for the
pandemic and had to fly out.
But yeah, Distant Thunder, it's happening in New York City, finally.
They've been doing it for like 10 plus years.
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Can't wait to see you. We're going to definitely go and support. Go and support Chelsea.
We love Chelsea. Everybody go see Distant Thunder when it hits an off-Broadway
stage starring Chelsea Zeno. Chelsea Zeno.
So thanks again, Chelsea, for hanging with us. And we love you.
You're our favorite. And always for Chelsea.
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See you next Monday. So you had too much to drink Or ate food that should have
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got washed in the sink Maybe you drank the normal amount But you didn't take
into account the altitude.
Music.
When you feel it coming up, don't hold back Just let it flow,
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and remember that everybody barfs
everybody knows what to do and
it's time for chunks to blow whether you do it in a bag or out the window of.
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A car everybody barfs barfs barfs it's not a question of if but a matter of
when in the bathroom at a party or in front of your of friends,
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whether you're home or out at the movie show,
grab the nearest popcorn bucket and let it go.
Everybody barfs from toddlers to the elderly.
It's nature's way of saying, hey, that didn't sit right with me.
So embrace the moment. Don't be shy.
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Because when it comes to boffin you're not alone
my guy so everybody bars everybody knows
so let it all out from your head to your toes boff in the morning or in the
dead of night boff when it's wrong or when it feels right everybody boffs it's.
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A batch we all wear when the chunks start flying We've all been there.
Everybody boffs. Everybody knows.
Don't be afraid to hurl.
Cause it's a crazy, cascading, vomitory.
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