June 21, 2025 • 40 mins
This week, Emily surprises Sam with something new, and slightly terrifying. We introduce a recurring segment that might just become your favourite guilty pleasure: the MSFits Top 10. First up? Let’s just say... if you’ve ever fallen asleep in a questionable place, you’re not alone.
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(00:01):
So. Sam.
Hello. Hi.
I have a surprise for you.
What? And you know what?
This is daunting because you're a comedian and a writer, and.
And to try to do something
funny and cool for you, man, this is scary.
So bear with me. Before we get to that,
comedians are the best audiences because we love comedy.
(00:23):
No matter what type it is, we love good or bad.
So especially bad. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Okay. Well, so if you laugh really, really hard, does that mean it was bad?
Not necessarily. Okay.
All right, all right, all right.
Well, we're going to go with this, so.
So I think this has legs,
and I think our listeners would really enjoy this.
Okay, so here we go.
(00:45):
You ready? I'm ready.
You're ready? Excited.
Wonderful. I'm on the edge of my seat.
I know you're in the back of your seat.
I'm leaning back in my seat.
There you go.
Welcome to the Misbehaving Podcast with your hosts
Sam Smith and Emily Howard.
Get ready.
It's time to start misbehaving.
(01:12):
This is the top ten times
your fatigue turned into an unexpected nap adventure.
Relatable.
Relatable.
Are you recognizing the top ten? Yeah. Okay.
Letterman. All right.
There you go. I've been deleted, but it was great.
Oh, great. Okay, so the number ten,
(01:34):
the ultimate bathroom snooze.
Mm hmm.
You're not sure how long you were sitting there,
but the numb legs and concern knocks on the door suggested it was a while.
Yeah, I was at the other day.
I because I get numb legs on the toilet quite a lot.
And I wondered if that happens to other people.
I feared that it didn't happen to other people.
(01:56):
Well, you've just mentioned it. So it does happen.
And I'm sure our listeners would love to tell us their stories.
Maybe I don't want to hear them. I don't know.
Anyway, okay.
So number nine, the quick carnap.
You thought you'd rest your eyes
in the driveway for a minute after Aaron's?
You woke up when the neighborhood kids started
tapping on the window.
(02:18):
That was. That was very good.
I've never had that because I don't drive well. But true.
But I have when I was a dentist and.
Oh, wait, there's a dentist moment in here.
That's for you. Hang on.
You got to let me roll with these. Come on. Okay. Sorry.
I'm really enjoying it. Yeah. Okay.
Number eight, the work from home. Lunch break.
(02:39):
Mm hmm.
You told yourself it was just a quick lie down to stretch your back.
But your Zoom meeting started and ended with you
still clutching your sandwich.
Number seven, the dentist's chair disaster.
Mm hmm.
You dozed off mid cleaning and woke up convinced
(02:59):
they'd knocked you out for a surgery?
Nope. Just a mess doing its thing.
Yeah. I once was doing a molar endo on someone,
and they just went to sleep.
Really? Root canal.
Oh, I know. Yeah. I've had several.
And, yeah, they just went to sleep,
and I sort of politely, at the end, had to go.
Oh, excuse me. We're finished.
You can. You can go now. Really?
(03:20):
I was a really good dentist.
Wow. So good.
You're like ninja dentists, actually. Right.
This feels a bit unethical
having the person be asleep while you work on them.
Oh, but they.
They did say, you know, this is okay.
Why didn't I do anything positive?
Have to dig up some files and give them a call, maybe?
Mm hmm. Okay. Number six.
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The café conked out.
You went in for a latte to perk yourself up
and left with a latte on your shirt
and the barista calling out Sleeping Beauty.
Your orders. Ready?
Wait, wait. What?
You ended up with latte on your shirt?
Mm hmm. And then the person yelled at your orders. Really?
(04:02):
Yeah. Because you fell over while you were sitting there waiting and somebody else's latte.
Come on, work with me. You fell onto someone's latte. Okay?
And then we're moving on.
Well, we're moving on. I just love it.
I just some confusion with it.
Fair enough. Fair enough. Thought through there. We'll sort through that.
See, you're better at this in comedy.
Okay.
Number five, the social medial media spiral nap
(04:26):
scrolling Instagram, fun scrolling Instagram while horizontal.
Apparently an invitation for your body to shut down for maintenance.
Yes, I do that a lot.
And then you hit your face with your phone.
Yes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
My my phone just sort of flops down there. My book.
Oh, yeah, do that.
Yeah. Shock myself awake thing, which I love.
(04:47):
Yeah. That's those are fun ones.
Number four, the pretend yoga pose.
Your downward dog transitioned
into an actual nap on the mat bonus.
Nobody at the studio noticed because they thought you were centering yourself again.
I haven't done yoga, but that does sound like what I hear.
That is like, yeah, yeah, exactly.
(05:07):
And you can't like look and stare
at other people doing yoga, you know, that's weird.
I hear people do a lot of farts at yoga.
Sounds hilarious.
Oh, well, maybe you need to go do yoga.
We might have to check it out. Okay, I go check it out. Okay.
All right. Number three, the waw catnap.
So for all you folks out there,
Americans, Canadians, we're talking like DMV,
(05:29):
going to the mechanic word warrant to fitness.
Yeah, the warrant to fitness catnap warrant.
I love the way you say warrant, warrant, warrant.
Weren't you glad? You glad warrant?
Yes. Okay. Number three,
you swore you'd be in and out,
but instead you woke up to the inspector,
gently nudging you with a ma'am.
This isn't the waiting area.
It's the floor
(05:52):
number two.
Oh, the grocery cart couple
somehow leaning on the cart handle for a second,
turned into a power nap in the freezer aisle.
Ice cream selection is exhausting.
Okay, like, seriously, has that happened?
Is that a true one?
Not for me, but I could. See it happened?
Yeah, definitely. Definitely.
(06:14):
And then the number one reason
your fatigue turned into an unexpected nap adventure
is they normally do a drum roll here.
Yeah. Da da da.
The Netflix cliffhanger snooze.
One minute you're watching.
The protagonist narrowly escaped danger.
The next, you wake up six episodes later,
(06:34):
deeply invested in their wedding planning.
And there you go, folks. There you have it.
PANELISTS Oh, that was fantastic.
I was like, I was back in the IT O'Sullivan Theater, right?
New York City.
New York.
So what do you think
you're going to you're going to do this, right?
I'm taking that. That is brilliant.
(06:55):
Okay. Thank you for bringing it.
That was. Absolutely.
All right. So now every episode,
we have to have a top ten list, right? Every episode.
How are you? Okay.
You got to put some work into this, too.
Now we'll do it together. Okay? Okay.
All right. Top ten, every episode.
Here you go, guys.
I love it.
(07:17):
Hello everyone.
Welcome back to misbehaving.
I am today Sam Smith.
I've always said Smith.
I don't know why I said it like that.
And misbehaving with me today is the wonderful Emily Howard. Hello, Emily. How are you?
Hi, Sam. I'm wonderful. How are you?
Very good.
Now, this is something we're going to get into
because we're going to be talking about wellness throughout this episode.
(07:39):
Oh, but I hear that you had an interesting run in this week.
You went to the bingo.
I did.
You weren't able to go?
I was unable to go again.
We will get into this in a moment
because I heard about this bingo that goes on here in Auckland.
It is a fundraiser.
It's been running for quite a while now.
25 years.
(08:00):
That is a long time.
That's before either of us were born.
No, that's before
either of us got M.S..
Yes.
Good.
Do you want to hear more about this?
Yes, it was. It was.
I have to say,
I didn't know how to play bingo.
Right. Okay.
The bingo I played was either like beer pong, bingo
(08:23):
or church when I was ten
or you know what I mean in kindergarten.
So, wait, so this wasn't like bowls
of bowl numbered balls come out of a thing
and someone's is like two ladies,
and then you put a thing down, and then you get lines and then.
No, no, no. It was that.
Oh. But. But I just didn't realize
there was such a following like this is.
(08:48):
This is a real, like thing that these folks invest in.
And I had to learn all the ropes and I had the equipment.
So let me just back up. So Sunday are the
they do this four times a year here in Auckland.
It's over with the Birkenhead Football Club.
Oh, it's a great venue.
I did a standup gig there and yeah, you did the room. Lovely.
(09:10):
You did the locker room.
Comedy night. There. There.
Yes. Same place.
So the the people there,
they put this on four times a year
and all the proceeds from the raffles
go to AMS. Auckland.
Bloody love a raffle.
Oh, man, there was some good stuff there.
Gosh, what were they doing? A mate pick this time.
(09:32):
No, no. Me guy, that's often a meatpackers.
A bit of a staple of New Zealand raffles.
Oh, is it okay? But I can understand
why we were trying to maybe eat a little bit
less red meat in the world. True.
Making it out of it, maybe. Yeah. No, there was.
Whether I'm for that or not, I haven't decided yet.
No, no. But I'm sure there were some wonderful prizes.
(09:53):
Wonderful prizes.
All obviously donated, which is just incredible. Right.
The gentleman, Brian,
who did this, he's been doing it for 25 years.
I believe his wife had M.S and died.
And this has just been something that the club has continued to do.
Shout out to Brian. Thank you, Brian.
Thank you, Brian, so much.
And so yeah, so spoiler alert,
(10:15):
we got $800 plus 3000 of a donation in in this on Sunday.
So it was incredible. Just incredible.
So so here's the deal. So I walked in
and I was the first like GMs table.
We were there and,
and I was like, Oh, I need to learn how to do this.
So we bought a bunch of cards.
(10:36):
Didn't know that buying ten cards on the first round made us like pro.
We were getting comments going,
Oh, you're going to go in, you're going to go pro on this.
Like those women over there, they
they're the ones who do six cards at a time like you guys.
We were like, Oh, no, what have we got ourselves into?
How many of you were there.
Oh well it was me hubby and then there were. Yeah.
(10:58):
And then we were at a table of Nicola,
her husband and son,
another board member for the society and her partner,
and then a whole other table
with Harry and the MBS group.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
So we had probably about 12 of us.
And you had ten between the 12 of, you know,
(11:21):
me and hubby had ten.
Oh my God. You know, so you had to manage five cards each.
Yeah. So every time they see the number,
you had to look at five different scan
all the numbers in each card to try and figure out what numbers yet.
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it was, it was, it was intense.
And apparently it's like it's like we went down the luge on the expert.
(11:42):
Yeah.
You know, cause when they straight away
did you manage to fish some out.
No, that's not what it's called. You hand them out.
You did you delegate your cards out to other people
to help you or did you actually know we did it?
We did it. Okay.
But we learned because.
Because we didn't know there were ten rounds.
(12:03):
Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.
So it kept going and so on.
On the second round, we got smart and went,
How about we just do two each?
Oh, that's better, you know.
And then we got, you know, more into it.
And then at the end, everyone.
Really piles in all their money.
And, you know, but anyway, I won't bore you.
But wow, it was such an experience.
All of the people there, it was beautiful.
(12:25):
But hey, guess what?
We won a line.
You didn't get 150 bucks. Really?
Yeah. For one line.
You what? You won money from doing it, honey.
Yeah, well, that's what bingo is.
So every card is $2 each,
and so everyone buys all their cards,
and then they go, okay, out of that whole pot.
(12:45):
We, you know, our our pool is 350 bucks.
If you get the whole card.
And if you get the first line,
150 bucks well away.
So we won.
Yeah, we won 150.
We got a line and at the raffle, I got a carrot cake.
Oh, my gosh. The best kind of cake. Cake, suckers.
(13:06):
It's also a fruit.
And you have no vegetable.
You have to take half of it home.
We can't possibly eat it. It's a you to me personally.
Yes, yes.
It's the best time of my life.
I love carrot cake, too.
Oh, Emily, thank you.
Yes. I'm so glad you into bingo.
Me, too. And 150 paid for our drinks, paid for all our cards.
We supported a great charity.
(13:28):
It was fantastic.
So did you make money overall from going out this night?
No. No, because after about round five,
I just said to hubby and said, could you just.
I delegated the dapper
alligator dapper delegation is what that was.
And I went to the bar and had another beer. Great.
(13:50):
Yeah.
So I was just there for the.
The vibes, man.
It was a random venue.
Is there something about it was not though.
It was like, hey, yeah, the gig I did,
they've got it's like going to an English bar to football.
It's in a football stadium.
Yeah, a pub kind of thing.
Yes, a pub right next to a football ground.
(14:11):
And everyone there was super.
The community really supports it.
It's such a wonderful, wonderful place.
And everyone was so bubbly and nice and friendly and and then
oh they do bingo there as well.
I'd love to do a quiz there.
Well, they do the bingo four times a year.
So March, we're doing another one. You've got to come along.
I'll be there. I think we need to like maybe broadcast
(14:33):
or do some recording while we're there,
because I think that would be so much fun. Very good.
The people are just phenomenal.
Just phenomenal.
And so many just you know,
when you're when you're sitting at the MSC table
and know that everyone there is there to support us, it just.
It made me melt. Yeah, just made me melt.
It's incredible.
(14:54):
Especially with the Amish society,
there are so many people that volunteer and just show up and we'll
you know, we'll do she's out, we'll we'll clean,
we'll we'll do things just because they're good people.
Yeah. And it's so nice.
It really gives you more.
They talk about how the world's collapse so good.
Everyone's dying and it's terrible.
And I don't think it is at I don't I think everyone
(15:16):
the world is full of wonderful, nice people like that.
And it is great to be alive
and have them and be living right now
at this moment in history, 100%.
And it I didn't realize
when I when I joined our society as a board member,
I did it because I felt really like I needed
(15:36):
I wanted to give back because there are many, many people worse
off with their mess than I am.
And I felt like, oh, my goodness, I've got to do something to give back.
And I was telling this to Nicole,
I said I didn't realize how much I needed a community.
Mhm. And I, it's exactly what you're saying.
All of these amazing people
(15:57):
just make me feel like there's hope in the world.
Yeah. And the more I do these things,
even being your understudy at the Christmas lunches
that you don't attend because you're busy doing your play.
By the way, I need you to be my understudy for.
For Christmas dinner with my in-laws.
No, no, no, no.
I know, I know.
(16:17):
I cut the line in Los.
So while you were not at the bingo this time.
Yes, you're coming next time, right?
I would love to be the match.
Yes, ma'am. I want Diana to know they're going to announce it soon.
I'll keep you posted. They haven't announced it yet.
Yeah, yeah. I would love to go.
Yeah. So we're going and we're going to take the podcast with us.
(16:39):
Oh, wait, we can do an episode from there.
Yeah, let's do something. Let's didn't leave some people. Let's talk to people.
Let's do it.
So tell me, why weren't you there?
Oh, see, I've had a very exciting week.
Much like yours, am I?
After we recorded our podcast last week, I went home.
I remember last week I called you and said. My son is sick.
(17:01):
Yes, I potentially I'm feeling great.
But he's ill.
I don't want to spread anything around just in case
I do have something.
And you said don't worry about it. We're
all good. Mike, come on out of the Little Recorder podcast.
And we did. And it was great.
Yes. And then I went home
and the next day my wife and my other son
(17:23):
vomited all over the show.
So I had a day of cleaning up
after my three wonderful members of my family.
And then the next day
I woke up Osmond to go to the gym.
I was just feeling a little bit off,
so I decided that I wasn't going to.
I would just stay home,
(17:43):
which was very good because about 10 minutes later I also started vomiting.
I was sick, Emily and oh my gosh,
I felt very drained that whole weekend.
So I wouldn't have been very good at the bingo with you
because I would have felt awful.
But what made me want to talk with you about
and because this is something I didn't understand with,
(18:05):
with, with Miami's at first, is that
I knew that the medication I was on
was going to make me immunocompromised.
It was going to kill off the B cells in my body.
Those are the things that help me get over
colds and flus and illnesses and infections and things like that.
I knew that my body was going to have that,
but I didn't really know what that would mean.
(18:26):
Like if I did get a cold or flu or COVID,
would I be dead?
Is that is that what that means?
Does the body is my body unable to respond to that?
Have these viruses running around my body and they'll slowly kill me off
and eventually I'll get a big fever and and be a dead man.
It's scary. It was a bit scary. Yeah.
And then the other part of me of was like,
(18:48):
oh, everyone seems quite chill about it.
I'll be all good and all kind of relax about it.
So I didn't know whether to sort of pitch
my expectations about it.
The other thing they keep saying is, oh, if you get an infection,
come and see a scam, go see a doctor right away.
Which which kind of makes sense
and is kind of easy to do.
But then there've been a number of times when I have got a cold
(19:09):
and I've gone to the doctor and b
look, I've got a cold, I'm feeling a heavy B as well. Please help me.
They just like, Oh, okay, take some antibiotics now.
My 100 antivirals.
I'm on antivirals anyway. All right.
But they do you take antivirals
as a part of your daily routine?
(19:30):
I take a prophylactic antiviral.
Oh, which means that's because
one of the things I got in 2017, which led to my vision loss.
So I started getting these headaches
and it and it turned out it was because my
because my immune system
had been suppressed by the TYSABRI at the time that I was taken,
(19:53):
had no immune response,
got this infection
that that reactivated my
the chickenpox that I had as a kid.
So that that stuff started happening again.
But because everything was the press being suppressed,
I ended up being out with these headaches
and things like that, which lead to me then.
(20:17):
Then having to go to hospital for a bunch of time.
It was quite good because people thought
I was going to give them something which I wasn't.
It was all inside me.
But I mean, I got my own private ward at the hospital,
which was the greatest of the whole ward or what was a private room.
Okay, that's a room, not a ward.
It was it's I think it's technically called like ward 29 or something like that.
(20:40):
So it is a special ward,
but I didn't have to share it with anyone, which was the
which was the exciting, but it was like staying in a hotel for two weeks,
which was a lot like locked out if everybody remembers.
But oh, yes, but you
you don't did you kind of have a headache the whole time?
Oh, that's terrible. It was actually as far as hotels, motels,
hospital stays go, it was quite good.
(21:01):
Well, then, then that's your next top ten list
is how to make your hospital stay a five star.
Yeah. You know how to make it to a two week hospital stays
when you have them is a five star experience.
There you go. Brilliant, brilliant.
There you go.
So, yeah.
So when I would go to the doctor, I didn't know.
(21:22):
I remember being
whenever I went to see them, sort of fearful
that, oh, no, I've somehow got this infection.
This could this could be the thing that kills me.
I go to the doctor and they like, Oh, you've got to call me
lots of water and and you'll be fine.
And, and so far that has been the case.
So so I as a immunocompromised person,
(21:44):
when COVID hit, everyone was like, Oh, watch out.
If you get it, you're going to be totally screwed over.
So definitely watch out.
So when I finally did get COVID,
I. Genuinely for that week
or so that I didn't have to go into work,
I kind of felt a bit better.
It kind of alleviated my symptoms.
(22:05):
My hands were in as they normally do.
I didn't feel I felt tired,
but not quite as tired as I normally did.
I did just a lovely week at home.
Wow, that was fantastic.
I know that's not the case for everyone with COVID, so I know.
So I shouldn't really joke about that.
Yeah, but I'm not. I'm not joking.
That's what my experience of it. Wow.
(22:26):
And so and so yeah.
I guess the thing that I wanted to talk with you about
is just the fact that when you get sick,
sounds like you're going to be awful
and horrible and maybe die.
But it's actually not your
when you get sick and you are immuno compromised,
your sickness is basically just like it was before.
Really? Yeah.
(22:46):
For me that's not exactly what it it's been like.
Oh, okay. Interesting.
Because then, then that's
I think the thing that confuses me the most, being immunocompromised,
I'm only partially immunocompromised
based on my DMT, TECFIDERA, by the way,
and is deemed disease modifying therapy. Right. Good.
(23:09):
That's the name of our drug class.
Yeah. I thought DMT was a
like a rap group from the nineties.
No, that's Run DMC.
I'm thinking now. That's exactly what I'm thinking.
I know it's tricky.
Yeah, that's one of the songs, right?
Yeah.
Give it to the radio broadcaster.
Um, yeah, no, I was.
(23:31):
I was concerned about it too, but I think that's where I don't understand.
And I need to really.
I've spent a lot of time learning about the different types of masks, but.
But that's what the miners told me, too.
I got sick for the first time,
and they were like, Oh, you still have some immune system. You'll be okay.
Yeah. And I was like, Really? No idea.
(23:53):
Yeah. You know, it's only if you get, like, COVID,
we'll put you on an antiviral.
And then I remember asking my doctor
once I was traveling overseas.
And I was scared of getting COVID in the plane like we all were.
And I was like, Can you just give me an antiviral to take with me?
And she's like, No, I can't.
You have to actually have a test before I can prescribe it.
(24:14):
But you you take it regularly.
This is yeah, it's a different antiviral.
It's a it's called a slick acyclovir,
like Klaviyo or something like that. Okay.
And it was yeah, it's for a super thing, not COVID,
because they are specific COVID ones that you can take.
Oh, right. Okay.
The thing is, I since since getting Amy's
(24:35):
and being on this antiviral, I,
I think I've had maybe one cold.
Maybe. Wow.
And how long have I been on it for?
But I is.
That's right.
No, it's not seven years. Seven?
Yeah. So it's. It's great.
I have a flu season as I walk at the park. It's lovely.
Highly recommended.
(24:57):
I think with the level of medication
that we're on with people with him is we are pretty good.
We still have a bit of bit of our immune system
there to keep us fighting
and like for and for example,
and in this week, when, when I've been sick,
it wasn't a cold and flu, it was bombs and shits.
(25:17):
Yeah, but it was I didn't
I didn't have to go see a doctor or anything.
I just lay in bed and felt miserable.
Oh and. Oh yeah.
Some Panadol kept my fluids up.
Yeah. And it passed pretty well. That's good.
Well, after a little bit.
I mean, I didn't have to go into work.
I didn't have to go to the gym.
And it means that I just sleep less thought,
(25:40):
oh my gosh, I slept so much and I felt so rested. You.
You look like you've been sleeping for a whole week.
I, I really have.
And but the other thing is, I'm looking really great
because I also lost two kilograms.
Wow. Quite a lot.
What's that? £10.
Two kilos is one £4.4.
(26:02):
Is that a lot? I don't know.
It's two kilos worth.
I don't know.
I'm converting to American for you because.
Well, no, I'm due to convert to American for me.
Yeah, I appreciate that because I still
I think I've only just in the past year or two
gotten able to know what the weather's going to be
like based on Celsius forecasts. Right.
(26:23):
I my my little system for this
is that I take Celsius
a double it and then I n30 yep.
That's, that's a rough one. That's a rough.
So if it is ten degrees here
I double it's 2830 that's 50 degrees Fahrenheit.
So if I hear 50 degrees Fahrenheit. Oh, that's a bit chilly.
Yes. If I hear 30 degrees Celsius, that's plus six.
(26:46):
That's 90 degrees Fahrenheit hot.
Yes. I was in New York City in 2013
and it was 106 degrees Fahrenheit.
So it was 38 degrees walking around New York City.
And it was just the hottest I've ever been in my entire life.
Oh, those those numbers don't even frighten me.
I mean.
Oh, California.
(27:08):
Colorado, I. Yeah.
Have you ever been to Death Valley?
Yeah. Oh, absolutely.
So, matter of fact, that's where the hottest recording on Earth was was
it has 88 degrees.
54 degrees, something like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I mean that.
Yeah, we, we go hang out in the malls
because it's so hot everywhere in the world.
(27:29):
And when it gets really heat waves,
they do tell the elderly, go to the walk to the malls, go shopping,
go, go, cool off because it can get really, really extreme.
I am so glad that we live in New Zealand
where it's not quite as hot as that now, especially with Elvis.
Do you know what I say about Kiwis?
Now, don't get me wrong, I live here. I love you guys.
(27:50):
I love New Zealand. This is home.
Mm.
But I just going to say you better watch what you're about to say.
Okay. Okay, so this caveat, but hear me out. Okay?
I will just be want.
You're all a bunch of tropical fish.
Wait, that's lovely. Tropical fish are awesome.
No. Have you ever had tropical fish?
No. Do you know how hard they are to care for.
(28:13):
Easy.
No, I thought it quite chill.
No tropical fish.
If you bring them home and you have a tank
there, salt needs to be just the right amount.
The temperature can only fluctuate
between two degrees, up or down.
And here, I don't know how many times
(28:33):
I'll hear somebody one week go.
It's freezing outside
and then four degrees later
in the next week, they go. It's boiling.
Yeah. You guys are little tropical fish
living on this beautiful South Pacific island going, it's
so hot, it's so cold, it's raining,
(28:54):
it's lovely.
It is just fine.
It's just. It's just because people get used to where they're at.
I know you acclimatize,
but I can't.
I cannot stand people
who complain about Auckland weather. I just.
I have no tolerance.
It's because we decided to live in a place
(29:15):
which isn't murder hot.
Oh. Oh, God.
When you said that to an American, I went, What do you mean?
Because we have more murders in Mike.
Oh, no, that's not enough to kill you.
Oh. Oh, yes. No. See?
Oh, yeah.
My brain murders as well.
Oh, but maybe we could tone down on those.
Yeah, good idea. No, no matter where you are.
(29:36):
That's awful. I know.
But when I first moved here,
I have to tell you this because you said murder.
Yeah. Okay, so this is
this is an incredible intro to a story, by the way. Oh, I'm sorry.
Oh, speaking of murder, that reminds me when I'm
when I moved when I first moved here.
When I first moved here,
I remember, like, reading stuff
or reading the newspaper, the Herald, whatever.
(29:58):
And maybe once
every couple of weeks, there was like a headline
like Body Washes Ashore in Browns Bay and you go,
What? Yeah.
Or body found in the back of an acre of a yard of somebody's
farm, whatever. Right.
Yeah, I remember that one.
Yeah, that was a good one, wasn't it? Yeah.
(30:19):
And for a while, I was like,
wow, this is kind of weird.
Like these.
There's a lot of death here.
And then I realized that it's actually quite the opposite.
It is such a rare situation
that that they report on it like it's, dare I say, big news.
Because where I come from, people die every moment.
(30:40):
Everyone dies every day in America.
I know gunshot wounds, school shootings.
You know, we we don't we can't even report on it.
There's too much of it because we don't have guns here, basically, you know?
Yeah, it's very strict gun control.
Yeah.
And rightly so. Yes.
And it means that if anything like that does happen, it's a big deal.
(31:01):
Well, there was a it was a murder in 1994.
It was a in down in Dinnington.
And people still talk about it like it's that
would you remember the David Blaine case?
ALL Yeah, yeah.
Everyone talks about it and I'm like, Oh, I missed that memo.
Yeah. Oh, well, okay, so that's my murder
story is just for those first few months,
it was like, why?
(31:23):
Why is that important that a body washed up
and it really had to I had to reset my expectation.
Yeah, same with Labor Day.
I still kind of giggle
when they report on the car
accidents and fatalities of Labor Day
and they'll say Four people die.
Yeah, this Labor Day.
(31:43):
And I go, Wow, that was it.
And Owen Wilson just said, Wow.
Oh, jeez.
Anyway, yeah, so, so yeah.
So I do it at Easter as well.
It's like, yeah, you're used to holiday road toll.
Yeah. And it's,
the thing is we won't be happy until it's zero because we'd love
we're a small enough country that we could get it down to zero.
(32:06):
Could you imagine it would be incredible. Would be wonderful.
It would be nice. It would be nice. The other one.
Sorry you got me on a trip here, but first couple of weeks here,
Wellington was where we landed
and the headline was Helen Clark.
She got a speeding ticket?
Yeah.
I love it.
(32:28):
I can't believe that's why.
That's why we didn't vote her in the next time.
Oh, yeah. She was already a criminal.
She had a she had a bad driving record and tickets.
And Julie, she wasn't driving that car anyway.
But still, she should have told the guy to slow down. Right.
But, Prime Minister, when you guys hold your prime ministers to account like that.
(32:48):
Hat. Tip of the hat.
Tip of the hat.
I think New Zealand, again,
is such a small country that I have met
the current prime minister,
the last prime minister before that.
The Prime Minister before that.
The Prime Minister before that.
I think the primaries before that.
(33:09):
And then I saw the Prime Minister
before that just random me on the street once.
Okay. I think I've done that.
I think that's yeah, I think that's the election.
Hipkins to say, oh, this is boring.
Yeah. No, no, no.
Yeah.
New Zealand small. Not that I can.
Yeah, I can. No.
The Deputy Prime Minister.
(33:30):
I worked on a TV show with him once.
I could text him if we wanted. Wow.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, it is definitely a little bit more intimate.
Yeah, it's a nice way to start. Yeah.
Did you know that New Zealand is the exact landmass of the state of Colorado?
That's it. That's nice.
And about the same population
(33:51):
and the thing, the sort of 5 million GDP is.
Well, is it for Colorado?
I think it's something like that.
I've seen a map where it was
maybe it was population and that's why it was there.
But ah, yeah, yeah.
I think it was every country.
It was a picture of the state with every country's
flag that lined up with it roughly the size.
That's really, really cool. Yeah.
(34:12):
Oh, I love New Zealand. Don't get me wrong.
I know I called everyone tropical fish.
Yeah, but it is it is breathtakingly beautiful.
And to have the, the ability to live here is just.
Yeah, it's. I'm so grateful.
Yeah, we're pretty hot and good looking and real chill.
Yeah, we were talking about murder.
(34:32):
I would love to tell you my murder story.
You have a murder?
I have a murder story. Okay.
I was once.
Oh, what's the.
Someone thought I had done a murder once.
You are a suspect. I was a suspect of a murder.
This was when I was at university.
I was hanging out at my hall of reasons, which is where you go.
(34:55):
Where you go to stay when you. When you get, like a dorm.
Like a dorm. Dorm.
Sorry. A dorm? Yes. Sorry.
I really enjoy saying things in a meredith's.
I can tell. So, so sorry.
I'll teach you, right? Yeah. Sorry.
It sounds like, you know, I just enjoy it. It's fine.
The way it tropical in my mouth wasn't the.
And the police came and talked to me.
(35:17):
They said, Sam Smith, where were you last night?
And I said, I was in town.
I went to a gig.
There were obviously someone with you
that could tell us that you were there. I say, Yeah, definitely.
I sort of went and got my friend to visit the home with me and
and then they went to talk to him for a bit,
then came and talked to me and just sort of
checked with him to make sure our stories lined up
(35:38):
and they said, Oh yeah, we believe that you were with them
because last night
someone called Sam Smith got in a fight
with someone outside a bar in Tenino,
which was right next door to Dean School where I,
I went into school and punched them.
(36:00):
They fell over the victim
fell over the head on the curb and died.
Oh.
So for a very brief time, I was.
I was a murder suspect. You were a suspect?
Yeah. Isn't that exciting?
Yeah. So you were one of the traders at one, the church.
You didn't quite win the murderer award, thank goodness.
(36:21):
Yeah, no, definitely.
Do you have, like, a burglar board or any of those?
I've never done, like, arson or anything like that, but that would be quite fun.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Arson is for the the small penises of the world.
Arson is just a cowardly, cowardly act.
Oh, okay.
(36:42):
Yeah, I'm passionate about that.
Apparently, I didn't even know that.
Come on. Have you tried it?
No. Well, I reckon we need to try.
No, we need to try one to make sure people start like it.
Full stop.
Well, now, what's your crime of choice?
What do the brave people.
(37:03):
Oh, I would do embezzlement.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Make it good.
But don't hurt anyone in the process.
Yeah, I reckon embezzlement could be done.
Like these arsons could be done for embezzlement
purposes to cover your tracks, do you know?
And I'm not generalizing.
You know how many firefighters have been caught being arsonists?
(37:24):
Oh, that's kind of weird.
Seven.
Is it seven, is it.
No, it's quite.
I think it's more than that.
Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
Kind of like the highest suicide rates this was years
ago was air traffic controllers.
Why them?
They have a very stressful job.
Oh, yeah.
They were the highest suicide rate for, like, the 2009
(37:47):
these eighties, all of those decades.
Can I tell you, when you said that
I thought you were going to say dentists,
because that's what so many people tell me.
Well, how did you know they have the highest rate of suicide,
which is completely wrong,
because I think
what from what I know, it was
it was a joke that they made on the on Seinfeld.
So if I'm not taking that to be fact.
(38:08):
But yeah, all that much
if you want to know it.
I think nowadays it is just anyone who has access
to the medication that can do it easiest.
So figure, by the way,
don't suicide. Don't.
No matter who you are.
Find your local community.
Find your suicide helpline. That is not.
That's no bueno.
(38:29):
Yeah, no bueno.
It may seem like the right thing to do.
No, absolutely not.
No, don't, don't, don't.
Everything always gets better. Yep.
I should probably get on.
I'm back on track talking about just the fact
I have been ill this week.
You're back on it, though. You're good.
Things have only got better.
Great. I'm feeling great.
(38:49):
I'm feeling strong.
I lost two kilograms,
which was very good for my hands at the gym.
And now my body is beach.
Ready for summer.
Oh, you just need a wax and you're ready to go.
On that note, I think I think we have covered today
our experience with immunosuppression
(39:10):
and what that kind of really means for us in our daily lives.
That doesn't mean it applies to everyone. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Really important thing to say as well.
Everyone is different with them is everyone is different
with these people of immune system ness.
And so you kind of just need to find out what uses
what we say may not apply to,
you know, and, you know, trust your
(39:31):
your medical provider.
Yeah. Yes. Not us.
We're learning as we go to. Right. Right.
Yeah, I. Anyway, so thank you so much, Sam.
I love you. Thank you for your time.
Thank you so much.
Fun doing this with you.
Let's keep doing it again and again and again.
Let's do let's keep misbehaving.
(39:52):
Yes. And thank you, everyone, for listening as well.
We really appreciate it.
Remember to hang out with the wonderful people, you know,
with Elise and talk to her and be kind and wonderful
and have a lovely.
Thanks, everyone.
We'll see you next time. Bye bye.
So. Sam.
Hello. Hi.
I have a surprise for you.
What? And you know what?
This is daunting because you're a comedian and a writer, and.
And to try to do something
funny and cool for you, man, this is scary.
So bear with me. Before we get to that,
comedians are the best audiences because we love comedy.
(00:23):
No matter what type it is, we love good or bad.
So especially bad. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Okay. Well, so if you laugh really, really hard, does that mean it was bad?
Not necessarily. Okay.
All right, all right, all right.
Well, we're going to go with this, so.
So I think this has legs,
and I think our listeners would really enjoy this.
Okay, so here we go.
(00:45):
You ready? I'm ready.
You're ready? Excited.
Wonderful. I'm on the edge of my seat.
I know you're in the back of your seat.
I'm leaning back in my seat.
There you go.
Welcome to the Misbehaving Podcast with your hosts
Sam Smith and Emily Howard.
Get ready.
It's time to start misbehaving.
(01:12):
This is the top ten times
your fatigue turned into an unexpected nap adventure.
Relatable.
Relatable.
Are you recognizing the top ten? Yeah. Okay.
Letterman. All right.
There you go. I've been deleted, but it was great.
Oh, great. Okay, so the number ten,
(01:34):
the ultimate bathroom snooze.
Mm hmm.
You're not sure how long you were sitting there,
but the numb legs and concern knocks on the door suggested it was a while.
Yeah, I was at the other day.
I because I get numb legs on the toilet quite a lot.
And I wondered if that happens to other people.
I feared that it didn't happen to other people.
(01:56):
Well, you've just mentioned it. So it does happen.
And I'm sure our listeners would love to tell us their stories.
Maybe I don't want to hear them. I don't know.
Anyway, okay.
So number nine, the quick carnap.
You thought you'd rest your eyes
in the driveway for a minute after Aaron's?
You woke up when the neighborhood kids started
tapping on the window.
(02:18):
That was. That was very good.
I've never had that because I don't drive well. But true.
But I have when I was a dentist and.
Oh, wait, there's a dentist moment in here.
That's for you. Hang on.
You got to let me roll with these. Come on. Okay. Sorry.
I'm really enjoying it. Yeah. Okay.
Number eight, the work from home. Lunch break.
(02:39):
Mm hmm.
You told yourself it was just a quick lie down to stretch your back.
But your Zoom meeting started and ended with you
still clutching your sandwich.
Number seven, the dentist's chair disaster.
Mm hmm.
You dozed off mid cleaning and woke up convinced
(02:59):
they'd knocked you out for a surgery?
Nope. Just a mess doing its thing.
Yeah. I once was doing a molar endo on someone,
and they just went to sleep.
Really? Root canal.
Oh, I know. Yeah. I've had several.
And, yeah, they just went to sleep,
and I sort of politely, at the end, had to go.
Oh, excuse me. We're finished.
You can. You can go now. Really?
(03:20):
I was a really good dentist.
Wow. So good.
You're like ninja dentists, actually. Right.
This feels a bit unethical
having the person be asleep while you work on them.
Oh, but they.
They did say, you know, this is okay.
Why didn't I do anything positive?
Have to dig up some files and give them a call, maybe?
Mm hmm. Okay. Number six.
(03:41):
The café conked out.
You went in for a latte to perk yourself up
and left with a latte on your shirt
and the barista calling out Sleeping Beauty.
Your orders. Ready?
Wait, wait. What?
You ended up with latte on your shirt?
Mm hmm. And then the person yelled at your orders. Really?
(04:02):
Yeah. Because you fell over while you were sitting there waiting and somebody else's latte.
Come on, work with me. You fell onto someone's latte. Okay?
And then we're moving on.
Well, we're moving on. I just love it.
I just some confusion with it.
Fair enough. Fair enough. Thought through there. We'll sort through that.
See, you're better at this in comedy.
Okay.
Number five, the social medial media spiral nap
(04:26):
scrolling Instagram, fun scrolling Instagram while horizontal.
Apparently an invitation for your body to shut down for maintenance.
Yes, I do that a lot.
And then you hit your face with your phone.
Yes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
My my phone just sort of flops down there. My book.
Oh, yeah, do that.
Yeah. Shock myself awake thing, which I love.
(04:47):
Yeah. That's those are fun ones.
Number four, the pretend yoga pose.
Your downward dog transitioned
into an actual nap on the mat bonus.
Nobody at the studio noticed because they thought you were centering yourself again.
I haven't done yoga, but that does sound like what I hear.
That is like, yeah, yeah, exactly.
(05:07):
And you can't like look and stare
at other people doing yoga, you know, that's weird.
I hear people do a lot of farts at yoga.
Sounds hilarious.
Oh, well, maybe you need to go do yoga.
We might have to check it out. Okay, I go check it out. Okay.
All right. Number three, the waw catnap.
So for all you folks out there,
Americans, Canadians, we're talking like DMV,
(05:29):
going to the mechanic word warrant to fitness.
Yeah, the warrant to fitness catnap warrant.
I love the way you say warrant, warrant, warrant.
Weren't you glad? You glad warrant?
Yes. Okay. Number three,
you swore you'd be in and out,
but instead you woke up to the inspector,
gently nudging you with a ma'am.
This isn't the waiting area.
It's the floor
(05:52):
number two.
Oh, the grocery cart couple
somehow leaning on the cart handle for a second,
turned into a power nap in the freezer aisle.
Ice cream selection is exhausting.
Okay, like, seriously, has that happened?
Is that a true one?
Not for me, but I could. See it happened?
Yeah, definitely. Definitely.
(06:14):
And then the number one reason
your fatigue turned into an unexpected nap adventure
is they normally do a drum roll here.
Yeah. Da da da.
The Netflix cliffhanger snooze.
One minute you're watching.
The protagonist narrowly escaped danger.
The next, you wake up six episodes later,
(06:34):
deeply invested in their wedding planning.
And there you go, folks. There you have it.
PANELISTS Oh, that was fantastic.
I was like, I was back in the IT O'Sullivan Theater, right?
New York City.
New York.
So what do you think
you're going to you're going to do this, right?
I'm taking that. That is brilliant.
(06:55):
Okay. Thank you for bringing it.
That was. Absolutely.
All right. So now every episode,
we have to have a top ten list, right? Every episode.
How are you? Okay.
You got to put some work into this, too.
Now we'll do it together. Okay? Okay.
All right. Top ten, every episode.
Here you go, guys.
I love it.
(07:17):
Hello everyone.
Welcome back to misbehaving.
I am today Sam Smith.
I've always said Smith.
I don't know why I said it like that.
And misbehaving with me today is the wonderful Emily Howard. Hello, Emily. How are you?
Hi, Sam. I'm wonderful. How are you?
Very good.
Now, this is something we're going to get into
because we're going to be talking about wellness throughout this episode.
(07:39):
Oh, but I hear that you had an interesting run in this week.
You went to the bingo.
I did.
You weren't able to go?
I was unable to go again.
We will get into this in a moment
because I heard about this bingo that goes on here in Auckland.
It is a fundraiser.
It's been running for quite a while now.
25 years.
(08:00):
That is a long time.
That's before either of us were born.
No, that's before
either of us got M.S..
Yes.
Good.
Do you want to hear more about this?
Yes, it was. It was.
I have to say,
I didn't know how to play bingo.
Right. Okay.
The bingo I played was either like beer pong, bingo
(08:23):
or church when I was ten
or you know what I mean in kindergarten.
So, wait, so this wasn't like bowls
of bowl numbered balls come out of a thing
and someone's is like two ladies,
and then you put a thing down, and then you get lines and then.
No, no, no. It was that.
Oh. But. But I just didn't realize
there was such a following like this is.
(08:48):
This is a real, like thing that these folks invest in.
And I had to learn all the ropes and I had the equipment.
So let me just back up. So Sunday are the
they do this four times a year here in Auckland.
It's over with the Birkenhead Football Club.
Oh, it's a great venue.
I did a standup gig there and yeah, you did the room. Lovely.
(09:10):
You did the locker room.
Comedy night. There. There.
Yes. Same place.
So the the people there,
they put this on four times a year
and all the proceeds from the raffles
go to AMS. Auckland.
Bloody love a raffle.
Oh, man, there was some good stuff there.
Gosh, what were they doing? A mate pick this time.
(09:32):
No, no. Me guy, that's often a meatpackers.
A bit of a staple of New Zealand raffles.
Oh, is it okay? But I can understand
why we were trying to maybe eat a little bit
less red meat in the world. True.
Making it out of it, maybe. Yeah. No, there was.
Whether I'm for that or not, I haven't decided yet.
No, no. But I'm sure there were some wonderful prizes.
(09:53):
Wonderful prizes.
All obviously donated, which is just incredible. Right.
The gentleman, Brian,
who did this, he's been doing it for 25 years.
I believe his wife had M.S and died.
And this has just been something that the club has continued to do.
Shout out to Brian. Thank you, Brian.
Thank you, Brian, so much.
And so yeah, so spoiler alert,
(10:15):
we got $800 plus 3000 of a donation in in this on Sunday.
So it was incredible. Just incredible.
So so here's the deal. So I walked in
and I was the first like GMs table.
We were there and,
and I was like, Oh, I need to learn how to do this.
So we bought a bunch of cards.
(10:36):
Didn't know that buying ten cards on the first round made us like pro.
We were getting comments going,
Oh, you're going to go in, you're going to go pro on this.
Like those women over there, they
they're the ones who do six cards at a time like you guys.
We were like, Oh, no, what have we got ourselves into?
How many of you were there.
Oh well it was me hubby and then there were. Yeah.
(10:58):
And then we were at a table of Nicola,
her husband and son,
another board member for the society and her partner,
and then a whole other table
with Harry and the MBS group.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
So we had probably about 12 of us.
And you had ten between the 12 of, you know,
(11:21):
me and hubby had ten.
Oh my God. You know, so you had to manage five cards each.
Yeah. So every time they see the number,
you had to look at five different scan
all the numbers in each card to try and figure out what numbers yet.
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it was, it was, it was intense.
And apparently it's like it's like we went down the luge on the expert.
(11:42):
Yeah.
You know, cause when they straight away
did you manage to fish some out.
No, that's not what it's called. You hand them out.
You did you delegate your cards out to other people
to help you or did you actually know we did it?
We did it. Okay.
But we learned because.
Because we didn't know there were ten rounds.
(12:03):
Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.
So it kept going and so on.
On the second round, we got smart and went,
How about we just do two each?
Oh, that's better, you know.
And then we got, you know, more into it.
And then at the end, everyone.
Really piles in all their money.
And, you know, but anyway, I won't bore you.
But wow, it was such an experience.
All of the people there, it was beautiful.
(12:25):
But hey, guess what?
We won a line.
You didn't get 150 bucks. Really?
Yeah. For one line.
You what? You won money from doing it, honey.
Yeah, well, that's what bingo is.
So every card is $2 each,
and so everyone buys all their cards,
and then they go, okay, out of that whole pot.
(12:45):
We, you know, our our pool is 350 bucks.
If you get the whole card.
And if you get the first line,
150 bucks well away.
So we won.
Yeah, we won 150.
We got a line and at the raffle, I got a carrot cake.
Oh, my gosh. The best kind of cake. Cake, suckers.
(13:06):
It's also a fruit.
And you have no vegetable.
You have to take half of it home.
We can't possibly eat it. It's a you to me personally.
Yes, yes.
It's the best time of my life.
I love carrot cake, too.
Oh, Emily, thank you.
Yes. I'm so glad you into bingo.
Me, too. And 150 paid for our drinks, paid for all our cards.
We supported a great charity.
(13:28):
It was fantastic.
So did you make money overall from going out this night?
No. No, because after about round five,
I just said to hubby and said, could you just.
I delegated the dapper
alligator dapper delegation is what that was.
And I went to the bar and had another beer. Great.
(13:50):
Yeah.
So I was just there for the.
The vibes, man.
It was a random venue.
Is there something about it was not though.
It was like, hey, yeah, the gig I did,
they've got it's like going to an English bar to football.
It's in a football stadium.
Yeah, a pub kind of thing.
Yes, a pub right next to a football ground.
(14:11):
And everyone there was super.
The community really supports it.
It's such a wonderful, wonderful place.
And everyone was so bubbly and nice and friendly and and then
oh they do bingo there as well.
I'd love to do a quiz there.
Well, they do the bingo four times a year.
So March, we're doing another one. You've got to come along.
I'll be there. I think we need to like maybe broadcast
(14:33):
or do some recording while we're there,
because I think that would be so much fun. Very good.
The people are just phenomenal.
Just phenomenal.
And so many just you know,
when you're when you're sitting at the MSC table
and know that everyone there is there to support us, it just.
It made me melt. Yeah, just made me melt.
It's incredible.
(14:54):
Especially with the Amish society,
there are so many people that volunteer and just show up and we'll
you know, we'll do she's out, we'll we'll clean,
we'll we'll do things just because they're good people.
Yeah. And it's so nice.
It really gives you more.
They talk about how the world's collapse so good.
Everyone's dying and it's terrible.
And I don't think it is at I don't I think everyone
(15:16):
the world is full of wonderful, nice people like that.
And it is great to be alive
and have them and be living right now
at this moment in history, 100%.
And it I didn't realize
when I when I joined our society as a board member,
I did it because I felt really like I needed
(15:36):
I wanted to give back because there are many, many people worse
off with their mess than I am.
And I felt like, oh, my goodness, I've got to do something to give back.
And I was telling this to Nicole,
I said I didn't realize how much I needed a community.
Mhm. And I, it's exactly what you're saying.
All of these amazing people
(15:57):
just make me feel like there's hope in the world.
Yeah. And the more I do these things,
even being your understudy at the Christmas lunches
that you don't attend because you're busy doing your play.
By the way, I need you to be my understudy for.
For Christmas dinner with my in-laws.
No, no, no, no.
I know, I know.
(16:17):
I cut the line in Los.
So while you were not at the bingo this time.
Yes, you're coming next time, right?
I would love to be the match.
Yes, ma'am. I want Diana to know they're going to announce it soon.
I'll keep you posted. They haven't announced it yet.
Yeah, yeah. I would love to go.
Yeah. So we're going and we're going to take the podcast with us.
(16:39):
Oh, wait, we can do an episode from there.
Yeah, let's do something. Let's didn't leave some people. Let's talk to people.
Let's do it.
So tell me, why weren't you there?
Oh, see, I've had a very exciting week.
Much like yours, am I?
After we recorded our podcast last week, I went home.
I remember last week I called you and said. My son is sick.
(17:01):
Yes, I potentially I'm feeling great.
But he's ill.
I don't want to spread anything around just in case
I do have something.
And you said don't worry about it. We're
all good. Mike, come on out of the Little Recorder podcast.
And we did. And it was great.
Yes. And then I went home
and the next day my wife and my other son
(17:23):
vomited all over the show.
So I had a day of cleaning up
after my three wonderful members of my family.
And then the next day
I woke up Osmond to go to the gym.
I was just feeling a little bit off,
so I decided that I wasn't going to.
I would just stay home,
(17:43):
which was very good because about 10 minutes later I also started vomiting.
I was sick, Emily and oh my gosh,
I felt very drained that whole weekend.
So I wouldn't have been very good at the bingo with you
because I would have felt awful.
But what made me want to talk with you about
and because this is something I didn't understand with,
(18:05):
with, with Miami's at first, is that
I knew that the medication I was on
was going to make me immunocompromised.
It was going to kill off the B cells in my body.
Those are the things that help me get over
colds and flus and illnesses and infections and things like that.
I knew that my body was going to have that,
but I didn't really know what that would mean.
(18:26):
Like if I did get a cold or flu or COVID,
would I be dead?
Is that is that what that means?
Does the body is my body unable to respond to that?
Have these viruses running around my body and they'll slowly kill me off
and eventually I'll get a big fever and and be a dead man.
It's scary. It was a bit scary. Yeah.
And then the other part of me of was like,
(18:48):
oh, everyone seems quite chill about it.
I'll be all good and all kind of relax about it.
So I didn't know whether to sort of pitch
my expectations about it.
The other thing they keep saying is, oh, if you get an infection,
come and see a scam, go see a doctor right away.
Which which kind of makes sense
and is kind of easy to do.
But then there've been a number of times when I have got a cold
(19:09):
and I've gone to the doctor and b
look, I've got a cold, I'm feeling a heavy B as well. Please help me.
They just like, Oh, okay, take some antibiotics now.
My 100 antivirals.
I'm on antivirals anyway. All right.
But they do you take antivirals
as a part of your daily routine?
(19:30):
I take a prophylactic antiviral.
Oh, which means that's because
one of the things I got in 2017, which led to my vision loss.
So I started getting these headaches
and it and it turned out it was because my
because my immune system
had been suppressed by the TYSABRI at the time that I was taken,
(19:53):
had no immune response,
got this infection
that that reactivated my
the chickenpox that I had as a kid.
So that that stuff started happening again.
But because everything was the press being suppressed,
I ended up being out with these headaches
and things like that, which lead to me then.
(20:17):
Then having to go to hospital for a bunch of time.
It was quite good because people thought
I was going to give them something which I wasn't.
It was all inside me.
But I mean, I got my own private ward at the hospital,
which was the greatest of the whole ward or what was a private room.
Okay, that's a room, not a ward.
It was it's I think it's technically called like ward 29 or something like that.
(20:40):
So it is a special ward,
but I didn't have to share it with anyone, which was the
which was the exciting, but it was like staying in a hotel for two weeks,
which was a lot like locked out if everybody remembers.
But oh, yes, but you
you don't did you kind of have a headache the whole time?
Oh, that's terrible. It was actually as far as hotels, motels,
hospital stays go, it was quite good.
(21:01):
Well, then, then that's your next top ten list
is how to make your hospital stay a five star.
Yeah. You know how to make it to a two week hospital stays
when you have them is a five star experience.
There you go. Brilliant, brilliant.
There you go.
So, yeah.
So when I would go to the doctor, I didn't know.
(21:22):
I remember being
whenever I went to see them, sort of fearful
that, oh, no, I've somehow got this infection.
This could this could be the thing that kills me.
I go to the doctor and they like, Oh, you've got to call me
lots of water and and you'll be fine.
And, and so far that has been the case.
So so I as a immunocompromised person,
(21:44):
when COVID hit, everyone was like, Oh, watch out.
If you get it, you're going to be totally screwed over.
So definitely watch out.
So when I finally did get COVID,
I. Genuinely for that week
or so that I didn't have to go into work,
I kind of felt a bit better.
It kind of alleviated my symptoms.
(22:05):
My hands were in as they normally do.
I didn't feel I felt tired,
but not quite as tired as I normally did.
I did just a lovely week at home.
Wow, that was fantastic.
I know that's not the case for everyone with COVID, so I know.
So I shouldn't really joke about that.
Yeah, but I'm not. I'm not joking.
That's what my experience of it. Wow.
(22:26):
And so and so yeah.
I guess the thing that I wanted to talk with you about
is just the fact that when you get sick,
sounds like you're going to be awful
and horrible and maybe die.
But it's actually not your
when you get sick and you are immuno compromised,
your sickness is basically just like it was before.
Really? Yeah.
(22:46):
For me that's not exactly what it it's been like.
Oh, okay. Interesting.
Because then, then that's
I think the thing that confuses me the most, being immunocompromised,
I'm only partially immunocompromised
based on my DMT, TECFIDERA, by the way,
and is deemed disease modifying therapy. Right. Good.
(23:09):
That's the name of our drug class.
Yeah. I thought DMT was a
like a rap group from the nineties.
No, that's Run DMC.
I'm thinking now. That's exactly what I'm thinking.
I know it's tricky.
Yeah, that's one of the songs, right?
Yeah.
Give it to the radio broadcaster.
Um, yeah, no, I was.
(23:31):
I was concerned about it too, but I think that's where I don't understand.
And I need to really.
I've spent a lot of time learning about the different types of masks, but.
But that's what the miners told me, too.
I got sick for the first time,
and they were like, Oh, you still have some immune system. You'll be okay.
Yeah. And I was like, Really? No idea.
(23:53):
Yeah. You know, it's only if you get, like, COVID,
we'll put you on an antiviral.
And then I remember asking my doctor
once I was traveling overseas.
And I was scared of getting COVID in the plane like we all were.
And I was like, Can you just give me an antiviral to take with me?
And she's like, No, I can't.
You have to actually have a test before I can prescribe it.
(24:14):
But you you take it regularly.
This is yeah, it's a different antiviral.
It's a it's called a slick acyclovir,
like Klaviyo or something like that. Okay.
And it was yeah, it's for a super thing, not COVID,
because they are specific COVID ones that you can take.
Oh, right. Okay.
The thing is, I since since getting Amy's
(24:35):
and being on this antiviral, I,
I think I've had maybe one cold.
Maybe. Wow.
And how long have I been on it for?
But I is.
That's right.
No, it's not seven years. Seven?
Yeah. So it's. It's great.
I have a flu season as I walk at the park. It's lovely.
Highly recommended.
(24:57):
I think with the level of medication
that we're on with people with him is we are pretty good.
We still have a bit of bit of our immune system
there to keep us fighting
and like for and for example,
and in this week, when, when I've been sick,
it wasn't a cold and flu, it was bombs and shits.
(25:17):
Yeah, but it was I didn't
I didn't have to go see a doctor or anything.
I just lay in bed and felt miserable.
Oh and. Oh yeah.
Some Panadol kept my fluids up.
Yeah. And it passed pretty well. That's good.
Well, after a little bit.
I mean, I didn't have to go into work.
I didn't have to go to the gym.
And it means that I just sleep less thought,
(25:40):
oh my gosh, I slept so much and I felt so rested. You.
You look like you've been sleeping for a whole week.
I, I really have.
And but the other thing is, I'm looking really great
because I also lost two kilograms.
Wow. Quite a lot.
What's that? £10.
Two kilos is one £4.4.
(26:02):
Is that a lot? I don't know.
It's two kilos worth.
I don't know.
I'm converting to American for you because.
Well, no, I'm due to convert to American for me.
Yeah, I appreciate that because I still
I think I've only just in the past year or two
gotten able to know what the weather's going to be
like based on Celsius forecasts. Right.
(26:23):
I my my little system for this
is that I take Celsius
a double it and then I n30 yep.
That's, that's a rough one. That's a rough.
So if it is ten degrees here
I double it's 2830 that's 50 degrees Fahrenheit.
So if I hear 50 degrees Fahrenheit. Oh, that's a bit chilly.
Yes. If I hear 30 degrees Celsius, that's plus six.
(26:46):
That's 90 degrees Fahrenheit hot.
Yes. I was in New York City in 2013
and it was 106 degrees Fahrenheit.
So it was 38 degrees walking around New York City.
And it was just the hottest I've ever been in my entire life.
Oh, those those numbers don't even frighten me.
I mean.
Oh, California.
(27:08):
Colorado, I. Yeah.
Have you ever been to Death Valley?
Yeah. Oh, absolutely.
So, matter of fact, that's where the hottest recording on Earth was was
it has 88 degrees.
54 degrees, something like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I mean that.
Yeah, we, we go hang out in the malls
because it's so hot everywhere in the world.
(27:29):
And when it gets really heat waves,
they do tell the elderly, go to the walk to the malls, go shopping,
go, go, cool off because it can get really, really extreme.
I am so glad that we live in New Zealand
where it's not quite as hot as that now, especially with Elvis.
Do you know what I say about Kiwis?
Now, don't get me wrong, I live here. I love you guys.
(27:50):
I love New Zealand. This is home.
Mm.
But I just going to say you better watch what you're about to say.
Okay. Okay, so this caveat, but hear me out. Okay?
I will just be want.
You're all a bunch of tropical fish.
Wait, that's lovely. Tropical fish are awesome.
No. Have you ever had tropical fish?
No. Do you know how hard they are to care for.
(28:13):
Easy.
No, I thought it quite chill.
No tropical fish.
If you bring them home and you have a tank
there, salt needs to be just the right amount.
The temperature can only fluctuate
between two degrees, up or down.
And here, I don't know how many times
(28:33):
I'll hear somebody one week go.
It's freezing outside
and then four degrees later
in the next week, they go. It's boiling.
Yeah. You guys are little tropical fish
living on this beautiful South Pacific island going, it's
so hot, it's so cold, it's raining,
(28:54):
it's lovely.
It is just fine.
It's just. It's just because people get used to where they're at.
I know you acclimatize,
but I can't.
I cannot stand people
who complain about Auckland weather. I just.
I have no tolerance.
It's because we decided to live in a place
(29:15):
which isn't murder hot.
Oh. Oh, God.
When you said that to an American, I went, What do you mean?
Because we have more murders in Mike.
Oh, no, that's not enough to kill you.
Oh. Oh, yes. No. See?
Oh, yeah.
My brain murders as well.
Oh, but maybe we could tone down on those.
Yeah, good idea. No, no matter where you are.
(29:36):
That's awful. I know.
But when I first moved here,
I have to tell you this because you said murder.
Yeah. Okay, so this is
this is an incredible intro to a story, by the way. Oh, I'm sorry.
Oh, speaking of murder, that reminds me when I'm
when I moved when I first moved here.
When I first moved here,
I remember, like, reading stuff
or reading the newspaper, the Herald, whatever.
(29:58):
And maybe once
every couple of weeks, there was like a headline
like Body Washes Ashore in Browns Bay and you go,
What? Yeah.
Or body found in the back of an acre of a yard of somebody's
farm, whatever. Right.
Yeah, I remember that one.
Yeah, that was a good one, wasn't it? Yeah.
(30:19):
And for a while, I was like,
wow, this is kind of weird.
Like these.
There's a lot of death here.
And then I realized that it's actually quite the opposite.
It is such a rare situation
that that they report on it like it's, dare I say, big news.
Because where I come from, people die every moment.
(30:40):
Everyone dies every day in America.
I know gunshot wounds, school shootings.
You know, we we don't we can't even report on it.
There's too much of it because we don't have guns here, basically, you know?
Yeah, it's very strict gun control.
Yeah.
And rightly so. Yes.
And it means that if anything like that does happen, it's a big deal.
(31:01):
Well, there was a it was a murder in 1994.
It was a in down in Dinnington.
And people still talk about it like it's that
would you remember the David Blaine case?
ALL Yeah, yeah.
Everyone talks about it and I'm like, Oh, I missed that memo.
Yeah. Oh, well, okay, so that's my murder
story is just for those first few months,
it was like, why?
(31:23):
Why is that important that a body washed up
and it really had to I had to reset my expectation.
Yeah, same with Labor Day.
I still kind of giggle
when they report on the car
accidents and fatalities of Labor Day
and they'll say Four people die.
Yeah, this Labor Day.
(31:43):
And I go, Wow, that was it.
And Owen Wilson just said, Wow.
Oh, jeez.
Anyway, yeah, so, so yeah.
So I do it at Easter as well.
It's like, yeah, you're used to holiday road toll.
Yeah. And it's,
the thing is we won't be happy until it's zero because we'd love
we're a small enough country that we could get it down to zero.
(32:06):
Could you imagine it would be incredible. Would be wonderful.
It would be nice. It would be nice. The other one.
Sorry you got me on a trip here, but first couple of weeks here,
Wellington was where we landed
and the headline was Helen Clark.
She got a speeding ticket?
Yeah.
I love it.
(32:28):
I can't believe that's why.
That's why we didn't vote her in the next time.
Oh, yeah. She was already a criminal.
She had a she had a bad driving record and tickets.
And Julie, she wasn't driving that car anyway.
But still, she should have told the guy to slow down. Right.
But, Prime Minister, when you guys hold your prime ministers to account like that.
(32:48):
Hat. Tip of the hat.
Tip of the hat.
I think New Zealand, again,
is such a small country that I have met
the current prime minister,
the last prime minister before that.
The Prime Minister before that.
The Prime Minister before that.
I think the primaries before that.
(33:09):
And then I saw the Prime Minister
before that just random me on the street once.
Okay. I think I've done that.
I think that's yeah, I think that's the election.
Hipkins to say, oh, this is boring.
Yeah. No, no, no.
Yeah.
New Zealand small. Not that I can.
Yeah, I can. No.
The Deputy Prime Minister.
(33:30):
I worked on a TV show with him once.
I could text him if we wanted. Wow.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, it is definitely a little bit more intimate.
Yeah, it's a nice way to start. Yeah.
Did you know that New Zealand is the exact landmass of the state of Colorado?
That's it. That's nice.
And about the same population
(33:51):
and the thing, the sort of 5 million GDP is.
Well, is it for Colorado?
I think it's something like that.
I've seen a map where it was
maybe it was population and that's why it was there.
But ah, yeah, yeah.
I think it was every country.
It was a picture of the state with every country's
flag that lined up with it roughly the size.
That's really, really cool. Yeah.
(34:12):
Oh, I love New Zealand. Don't get me wrong.
I know I called everyone tropical fish.
Yeah, but it is it is breathtakingly beautiful.
And to have the, the ability to live here is just.
Yeah, it's. I'm so grateful.
Yeah, we're pretty hot and good looking and real chill.
Yeah, we were talking about murder.
(34:32):
I would love to tell you my murder story.
You have a murder?
I have a murder story. Okay.
I was once.
Oh, what's the.
Someone thought I had done a murder once.
You are a suspect. I was a suspect of a murder.
This was when I was at university.
I was hanging out at my hall of reasons, which is where you go.
(34:55):
Where you go to stay when you. When you get, like a dorm.
Like a dorm. Dorm.
Sorry. A dorm? Yes. Sorry.
I really enjoy saying things in a meredith's.
I can tell. So, so sorry.
I'll teach you, right? Yeah. Sorry.
It sounds like, you know, I just enjoy it. It's fine.
The way it tropical in my mouth wasn't the.
And the police came and talked to me.
(35:17):
They said, Sam Smith, where were you last night?
And I said, I was in town.
I went to a gig.
There were obviously someone with you
that could tell us that you were there. I say, Yeah, definitely.
I sort of went and got my friend to visit the home with me and
and then they went to talk to him for a bit,
then came and talked to me and just sort of
checked with him to make sure our stories lined up
(35:38):
and they said, Oh yeah, we believe that you were with them
because last night
someone called Sam Smith got in a fight
with someone outside a bar in Tenino,
which was right next door to Dean School where I,
I went into school and punched them.
(36:00):
They fell over the victim
fell over the head on the curb and died.
Oh.
So for a very brief time, I was.
I was a murder suspect. You were a suspect?
Yeah. Isn't that exciting?
Yeah. So you were one of the traders at one, the church.
You didn't quite win the murderer award, thank goodness.
(36:21):
Yeah, no, definitely.
Do you have, like, a burglar board or any of those?
I've never done, like, arson or anything like that, but that would be quite fun.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Arson is for the the small penises of the world.
Arson is just a cowardly, cowardly act.
Oh, okay.
(36:42):
Yeah, I'm passionate about that.
Apparently, I didn't even know that.
Come on. Have you tried it?
No. Well, I reckon we need to try.
No, we need to try one to make sure people start like it.
Full stop.
Well, now, what's your crime of choice?
What do the brave people.
(37:03):
Oh, I would do embezzlement.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Make it good.
But don't hurt anyone in the process.
Yeah, I reckon embezzlement could be done.
Like these arsons could be done for embezzlement
purposes to cover your tracks, do you know?
And I'm not generalizing.
You know how many firefighters have been caught being arsonists?
(37:24):
Oh, that's kind of weird.
Seven.
Is it seven, is it.
No, it's quite.
I think it's more than that.
Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
Kind of like the highest suicide rates this was years
ago was air traffic controllers.
Why them?
They have a very stressful job.
Oh, yeah.
They were the highest suicide rate for, like, the 2009
(37:47):
these eighties, all of those decades.
Can I tell you, when you said that
I thought you were going to say dentists,
because that's what so many people tell me.
Well, how did you know they have the highest rate of suicide,
which is completely wrong,
because I think
what from what I know, it was
it was a joke that they made on the on Seinfeld.
So if I'm not taking that to be fact.
(38:08):
But yeah, all that much
if you want to know it.
I think nowadays it is just anyone who has access
to the medication that can do it easiest.
So figure, by the way,
don't suicide. Don't.
No matter who you are.
Find your local community.
Find your suicide helpline. That is not.
That's no bueno.
(38:29):
Yeah, no bueno.
It may seem like the right thing to do.
No, absolutely not.
No, don't, don't, don't.
Everything always gets better. Yep.
I should probably get on.
I'm back on track talking about just the fact
I have been ill this week.
You're back on it, though. You're good.
Things have only got better.
Great. I'm feeling great.
(38:49):
I'm feeling strong.
I lost two kilograms,
which was very good for my hands at the gym.
And now my body is beach.
Ready for summer.
Oh, you just need a wax and you're ready to go.
On that note, I think I think we have covered today
our experience with immunosuppression
(39:10):
and what that kind of really means for us in our daily lives.
That doesn't mean it applies to everyone. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Really important thing to say as well.
Everyone is different with them is everyone is different
with these people of immune system ness.
And so you kind of just need to find out what uses
what we say may not apply to,
you know, and, you know, trust your
(39:31):
your medical provider.
Yeah. Yes. Not us.
We're learning as we go to. Right. Right.
Yeah, I. Anyway, so thank you so much, Sam.
I love you. Thank you for your time.
Thank you so much.
Fun doing this with you.
Let's keep doing it again and again and again.
Let's do let's keep misbehaving.
(39:52):
Yes. And thank you, everyone, for listening as well.
We really appreciate it.
Remember to hang out with the wonderful people, you know,
with Elise and talk to her and be kind and wonderful
and have a lovely.
Thanks, everyone.
We'll see you next time. Bye bye.
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