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I'm JT, and this is Seen and Heard.
Hey guys, welcome to the podcast.
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This is a place where we just can't help, but tell others of what we have seen and heard God do in our lives and in the lives of those around us.
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On today's podcast.
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I have my friend, Joe.
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And he wants to tell us about his time.
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In Nepal.
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Alright guys we've got average, Joe with us here.
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Hey buddy.
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Tell us why you'd like to be called average, Joe.
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Hey, JT.
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I think.
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I just picture my life as something that's not something that's super noticeable.
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In the eyes of man definitely grew up super humble and.
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Didn't aspire to be.
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Anything.
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No, he has a PhD at the end or anything like that.
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But just kinda walk through life.
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With a very ordinary family and felt like I had a very ordinary life and.
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And I'm just thankful that God wants to use.
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Lives like that.
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For his glory.
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And, so yeah, I just.
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I feel like I'm a pretty average guy.
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Yeah.
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Are you from Texas originally? No, I'm not.
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I moved down here in January of 2018, but I grew up in the Northeast actually.
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Upstate New York and a super small farm town, and local there, right until I moved here.
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Tell something about your farm town.
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Yeah, let's see, we were right on the north end of candidate, what lake, which was actually an Indian.
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Word for the chosen spot.
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And I'm not sure exactly why they named it that, but, I was right in the middle of the finger lakes, which is a super pretty region, especially in the fall.
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We have a full four seasons.
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Every one is very different.
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And in October, every year, God just paints the hillsides and we get our first fros and.
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It's apple picking time.
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It's pretty sweet.
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I really enjoyed that part of life.
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Yeah.
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Man.
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That's awesome.
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I'm at Joe's house right now, here in Austin.
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And there are a bunch of dead animals hanging all around us on the walls.
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Like how long have you been, hunting? Yeah.
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When I was six years old, I went with my dad the first time.
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He was a deer hunter.
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And I went with him and was just totally hooked.
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I just loved.
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I just love getting out there.
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The first light and, yeah, chasing something and just the challenge of it.
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Sometimes having to endure things like cold weather and, heavy winds and.
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Yeah, I just always felt like.
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Whenever I scored.
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It was from a lot of hard work and time and effort.
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And, so it was really sweet when that happened.
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Yeah, it was the harder seasons that made the good ones.
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Really good.
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And, so getting to the point where you actually walked up on something, you're gonna throw a tag on, was.
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It was pretty fun.
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Cause I was pretty picky along the way.
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I passed on a lot of animals and.
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So, yeah, it was just a joy to do that.
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I do want to get into your trip to Nepal and.
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How God used you and your buddy, Robert.
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While you were over there, but this podcast is called, seen and heard.
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And so, man, I would just like to ask you, what is something that God's been teaching you or God's been doing in your life lately? That you would like to share with others? Sure.
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Yeah.
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This isn't going to sound.
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To Yeah, too wild.
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And.
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And Earth shaking, but.
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I'm just super thankful that.
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That Jesus allows us to come to him with everything we have.
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You know, when you've got like, Questions concerns Hertz.
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Stuff that you just have no idea the answer to.
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I'm thankful that he's right there.
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And that in the process of getting to some of those conclusions and finding that piece and.
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Receiving, you know, answers to questions and things like that.
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In the process.
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He knows exactly what we need for each day.
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And one thing I've been thinking about recently is that like, I don't have tomorrow's grace today.
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I have today's grace today.
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And the reason I don't have tomorrow's grace is because I don't need it yet.
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But when I get there, I'll have it.
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And looking back at seasons in my life, knowing how much I felt.
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Either confusion or just struggles in seasons.
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And in the day and in the moment and be like, I don't have what I need.
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I need more than this.
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But then looking back and saying like, I absolutely had everything I needed.
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And all that I needed came as I needed it.
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So I'm really thankful that the grace I need for tomorrow, I will have that.
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It will be there.
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And I think that's something that God has kind of enlightened in my mind recently and given me to hold onto.
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So, yeah that's what I want to share.
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Yeah.
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Is there a specific passage that comes to mind when you think about all that? I was actually just thinking about, Ephesians.
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Three.
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20.
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That says a, not a Hema was able to do far more abundantly than all that we ask or think.
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According to the power that is at work within us.
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And thinking that's the God that we have on our side, that they he has in his hands, all that we need.
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He has all the riches all the glory, and he's able to do more than we could even sit here and write down, ask for and dream up and scheme.
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And.
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At shout or fill out a whiteboard with, he could do more than that.
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And it's according to the power that is at work within us.
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And so that power.
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Within us.
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The same power that raised Jesus from the dead exists within us.
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And there's a lot of days where I think it doesn't feel like like you're overjoyed and just overflowing and.
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There's a reason why so many scriptures like limitation that so many Psalms and other places.
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We're God's people.
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Get to go to him with everything.
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They have everything.
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They don't have all their needs, all their questions, all these things.
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And then he uses all that weakness for his glory.
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So I'm thankful that I get to be one of those weak and foolish things in this world that could confound.
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The wise and the strong and so.
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Yeah, I think that's really humbling to know that we get to go to him.
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As a mass.
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As a.
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As someone that, that doesn't know how to do a lot of things or whatever the case may be.
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And he wants to use us.
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If we'll walk with him in humility and accept him coming with his power to meet our weakness.
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So.
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Yeah.
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That's kind of what I was just thinking.
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All right.
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So let's just jump into your trip to Nepal.
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Like, why did you go, what were you expecting? Tell us about the preparation to getting there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, totally.
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So one of my really good friends Robert, he moved there.
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A year and a half ago.
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And.
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When he moved there, because we did so much life together, state side.
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We were both in leadership at our church.
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We were on ministry teams together.
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We.
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We actually lived together before he got married and just.
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Had a lot of life together when he moved over there, I had started talking to him about a plan to join them for some period of time, to be a part of what they're doing to see them.
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And to jump into some of that work that they're a part of.
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So that conversation had been going on for quite a while until I would say.
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Last summer.
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At some point we basically just said like, let's pick a month, let's start putting this together.
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And we decided on March.
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So there's a lot of time knowing that I was going to go in March before.
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Before I went and the preparation, I mean, I think just having conversations with him, knowing like what to expect to some degree here in a lot of life updates from him.
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I had a rough ballpark idea of what it might be like.
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But I've never been to that part of the world before.
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So it was all new as I got there.
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And yeah, prep prep was just yeah.
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Conversations with him and time spent praying and realizing like, And the son of a gun, we're going to go to the other side of the world where.
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Darkness rules so much.
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And not to say that there isn't plenty of darkness here in the states, but it would be a different context with a different Yeah, a different kind of.
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Frame of darkness where a lot of Hindu and a lot of Buddhist.
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People.
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So there's some here for sure, but not like there.
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So.
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Yeah, I think.
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Prep was in prayer.
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And just conversations with him, getting ready to go.
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What were you most excited about for this trip? Yeah.
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I think when we booked the flights I had like a moment where I was like, oh man, this is so cool.
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Like.
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I get to go to the other side of the world with the greatest news of greatest gift, the greatest treasure that anyone could ever ask for.
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Which is actually what their hearts they're the deepest parts of their hearts are looking for every day of their lives.
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They just don't know it.
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Every one of us is made to desire.
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Him.
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And that's why you see people running in all directions, trying to find satisfaction.
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What they're truly looking for is Jesus.
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But they don't know that.
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So they look in a lot of other places.
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So getting to go there and just be a light.
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Was something that really brought me a lot of joy thinking about before we went.
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Tell us about what it felt like when you first landed in Nepal.
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Yeah.
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Actually I had one of those air tags in my bag and we landed and we had a ton of luggage.
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And I'm like looking at my phone, looking at my phone.
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I'm like, it says it's right here.
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And like, we waited for forever and all the bags came off the conveyor and I'm sitting there and I'm like, something's wrong because it says it's here, but I don't see it.
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And I start looking all over when, across the.
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The room and then realized somebody had already brought my bag out and it was laying on the ground.
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But we loaded up, we had tons of luggage and we were tired.
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I didn't get a lot of sleep on the way.
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And Robert was there.
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Picked me up.
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I got a coffee and.
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Yeah, just driving around on the streets, seeing like, just very different traffic, very different.
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Atmosphere Yeah.
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So I think it was like a tired.
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Yet to present kind of deal going on for me.
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All right, so you get there.
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You're tired.
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But there's probably some excitement of the trip and just getting there to see Robert and spend a while.
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Yeah.
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Tell us about some of the work that, that he's getting to do there in Nepal.
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What's Robert doing? In Nepal.
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Yeah.
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So, so the goal is very much so to empower the local church.
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To reach.
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The people in Nepal.
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And.
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And with the resources that, that he's had and the.
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Yeah, just the love for Jesus that he has.
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He wants to.
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To meet locals that want to be about kingdom work and empower them.
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And that's not to say that he's not out there sharing the gospel broadly as well, but the goal is to plant churches and make disciples.
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To see people begin following Jesus that want to.
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Be about multiplication to share the gospel, to.
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Even push past a lot of cultural difficulties and there is a persecution that happens there in, in a large way.
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And so there's a lot of work.
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Needed in building relationships and powering.
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Nationals and.
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Yeah, the goal is just to see a movement of churches, multiplying other churches from people coming out of darkness into the light and at the same time, Him and his wife are heavily working on language.
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Because they don't have that.
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All done yet.
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Their schooling.
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Isn't done.
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So there.
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They're adjusting to life there, which for the most part they have, but.
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Learning language and learning more culture and working with nationals and.
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And other Americans as well.
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In that context in the cities and villages and even remote places.
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So kind of all over.
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Yeah.
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So a lot of times, whenever it's been a while, since you've seen somebody.
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And I know with today's technology, I'm sure you've talked to him often, but.
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It's been a while since you've hung out.
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And so.
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When you saw him.
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What was the story that he had, that he just needed to tell you about? Yeah, let's see.
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I think we probably shared a couple of laughs to start and made it lighthearted for a ways.
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But I think he started telling me.
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Some details around some of the other goers that are there.
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And some of the hard things they've been walking through and even some of the spiritual warfare.
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So yeah, just kinda some of the realities for him and his teammates and things like that.
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All right, Joe.
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As we look back on this trip to Nepal, What were some of the highlights, some of the standout moments from your trip? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think a few things come to mind.
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Part of the trip.
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I won't share locations.
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But we took a couple of flights out of Katmandu.
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To some more remote areas.
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Some we got into some very remote areas.
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We backpacked for about 43 miles.
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In a very alone.
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How do you backpack 43 miles? Like one way.
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No, we went we kinda made it w we went out and came back.
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Basically the same way that we got there.
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But we were trying to hit certain villages.
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So there wasn't, it wasn't exactly like on the same path.
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Twice.
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But some of it was, I mean, forgive me, but I don't think that's like average Joe kind of strength.
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I don't think that I could hike 43 miles.
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It really wasn't that hard.
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I mean, I made it pretty well.
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We didn't have issues with the altitude either.
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We got up to 11 or 12,000 feet and praise God, I didn't have like altitude sickness or any of that stuff.
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We weren't trying to go crazy distances.
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Were y'all like hiking circles around everybody else that y'all saw or like, No the local people.
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I think I have a new respect for them.
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I mean, they're wearing like dollar store shoes, like shoes that are just.
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Hardly anything.
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And they got some of them.
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A big old patch on their back with a strap on their forehead with a kid inside of the pack.
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And some of them were probably carrying stuff that was like five, six times the size of them.
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Obviously some of that was like, Hey, or like a bed or something rolled up that wasn't as dense obviously, but they carry a lot on their backs and they go a lot of places on foot.
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And.
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Yeah we were hiking alongside a lot of people.
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We ran into quite a lot.
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And So you're hiking.
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And you're starting to get a little bit tired and this little old lady is just like carrying about 50 pounds on her back.
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Just passing you whistling.
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Not exactly.
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There, there was actually one point we were trying to take a shortcut off of a cliff.
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And there was a whole bunch of women with like one teenage guy and there was probably a.
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Five or six year old boy and then a one to one and a half year old boy that was on his mother's back.
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And I mean, I've done a lot of, I've done a lot of hiking in mountains and done a lot of backpack and kind of stuff.
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But we were coming up behind them as they were coming off the cliff and like this woman with a child and a pack on her back strapped around her forehead.
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She was grabbing onto like little shrubs and swinging herself down around the cliff to like descend this.
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I dunno.
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It was probably the last part was.
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60 to 80 feet.
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Have pretty steep incline.
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And the national partner we were, whether it was like, all right, guys, we need to turn on and go a different way.
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I was like, I think I could make this, but.
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We'll take his lead.
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If these women can do it, I'd like to try, but I followed my orders and we went back up the hill and came down the other way.
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Did did any of the like local goats, like that were also climbing up the mountain? Were they taking notes on these old lady? They probably were.
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We just didn't see him.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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So what else.
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Yeah.
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At one point this is one of the highlights for me.
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At one point I was on the trail and I was kind of separated from the rest of our team.
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I think I was ahead of them.
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And I was just praying And I was like, God, like open doors that only you can open.
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And my heart in that was like, God, I want to.
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I want to make you known.
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I want to share about you.
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I want to talk to somebody and tell them about Jesus and.
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And within only a few minutes somebody like nudged me from behind.
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I don't think I even seen him until he was right next to me.
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And he handed me a couple of sticks of gum and.
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Next thing I knew I'm walking beside this guy.
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Who's actually spoke enough English to have a conversation.
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He was on his way back to Katmandu actually.
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And we were conversing along the way, chewing gum and.
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I got to share about Jesus with him.
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I told him the story of Jesus and I'd asked, have you ever heard of Jesus? He said, no.
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And so I told him the life and the story and the death and resurrection of Jesus.
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And I said, what do you think about this story? And in all, by the way, he was a, he's a 21 year old monk who lives in a monastery and had just been traveling with his family for a little while.
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But it was headed back to this monastery, which is where I mean they have a lot of monks in the Paul.
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And they, some of them that have been among their whole life.
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Really don't know much about the outside world and they study.
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Tibetan Buddhism.
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And anyway, that's some of his context.
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And when I said, what do you think of this story? He said, I'm very proud of Jesus.
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And I've never heard anyone respond like that.
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But I sense that it meant something to him and I said, well, man, there's a book that is full of the story of Jesus.
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And it's called the Bible.
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And I would encourage you to read that and to read.
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The book of John and.
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He He said, I will do that when I get to the city.
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And shortly thereafter, there was a split in the trail and he was going the other way.
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So we split, but I had gotten his number.
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And actually, this is pretty cool.
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I tried to reach out to him in country and that didn't really pan out, but he found me on WhatsApp a few days ago.
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And we've been talking back and forth and he sent me pictures of what his life is like.
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And.
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Yeah, so I'm hoping to build some kind of a friendship there.
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And I actually asked him, I said, did you end up buying a Bible? And he said, no, I haven't had a chance, but when I'm free, I'm planning to.
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And I asked if he'd be interested in meeting Robert.
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And he said that he would, so this is kind of cool.
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I think I just felt like.
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Like, man, this is such a.
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Such a cool thing in the middle of nowhere, I got to like plant a seed, like put this seed in his hands that, that he had never had before.
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And what God will do with that.
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I don't know.
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But yeah.
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Some other stories, I think.
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I don't know that I've ever felt more weight of loss, Snus.
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And I've been to.
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Pretty dark places in other parts of the world.
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And yeah, growing up the way I did.
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Can you describe what lostness feels like? Like that weight that you're describing.
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Yeah, I think what was going through my mind so many times was that like, Jesus is the wellspring of life.
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And the fact that we get to drink from that spring and not thirst.
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Like before.
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Knowing that these people have never tasted that water.
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And their parents, their grandparents, and so many generations back have been living.
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Believing a lie.
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And it doesn't take a trained eye to see that like, The enemy is so.
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So rampant in the belief system.
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Of Tibetan Buddhism and it's pretty dark.
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There's a lot of pictures painted in their monasteries and their shrines and stuff.
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And they've got pretty graphic pictures of demons, stomping on people.
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There's a one familiar painting in many of these places where it's really ugly, nasty, dark demon with big fangs is holding a wheel and that's what they call the wheel of life.
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So, yeah.
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Just thinking about, they've never tasted what I've tasted and yeah, they're just there.
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There's actually no known.
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Believers in these places that have come to faith in these villages of this specific people group, the only ones that have ever been known to come to Christ had actually done that in the city.
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So these villages way out there are extremely unreached and unengaged.
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Yeah.
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So you're familiar with the discovery Bible study.
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One thing that I thought about.
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A little while back in.
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I'd love to ask you.
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What did you learn about God? Through this story.
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Through your trip to Nepal.
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Yeah, I.
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I think.
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And you can ask more on this.
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I'm just going to try to.
380
00:16:28,364.13522985 --> 00:16:29,989.13522985
Yeah, share what it felt like.
381
00:16:30,14.13522985 --> 00:16:31,639.13522985
I felt like I was kind of towing a line.
382
00:16:31,805.80189652 --> 00:16:35,305.80189652
Remembering Jesus' words on the cross, or he's seeing the people that are.
383
00:16:35,472.46856318 --> 00:16:36,647.46856318
Are killing him and.
384
00:16:37,139.13522985 --> 00:16:38,364.13522985
And he says, father, forgive them.
385
00:16:38,439.13522985 --> 00:16:40,139.1352298
They don't know what they're doing.
386
00:16:40,614.1352298 --> 00:16:40,989.1352298
And.
387
00:16:41,414.1352298 --> 00:16:44,555.8018965
Looking at these people, it's like, They don't know what they're doing.
388
00:16:44,597.4685632 --> 00:16:46,147.4685632
They, they don't even know that this is.
389
00:16:46,314.1352298 --> 00:16:48,64.1352298
They're going in the wrong direction.
390
00:16:48,122.4685632 --> 00:16:49,122.4685632
I mean, I believe.
391
00:16:49,497.4685632 --> 00:16:58,864.1352298
That if there's people in there that are real truth seekers, they're probably questioning the things that they're following internally, but yeah, the they're following a false religion, a false God.
392
00:16:58,914.1352298 --> 00:16:59,264.1352298
And.
393
00:16:59,697.4685632 --> 00:17:01,772.4685632
Yet at the same time, like seeing how God.
394
00:17:02,130.8018965 --> 00:17:06,530.8018965
Created man in a paradise and man mankind has ran away from him.
395
00:17:06,889.1352298 --> 00:17:07,489.1352298
Four.
396
00:17:07,655.8018965 --> 00:17:08,430.8018965
For so long.
397
00:17:08,655.8018965 --> 00:17:10,430.8018965
So many generations, so many years.
398
00:17:10,839.1352298 --> 00:17:13,714.1352298
And just thinking like he's absolutely just to judge.
399
00:17:14,47.4685632 --> 00:17:19,572.4685632
People that, that run away from him and follow false gods and So, yeah, it was really sad to think.
400
00:17:19,572.4685632 --> 00:17:23,447.4685632
Like I don't know that anyone has ever worshiped Jesus on this piece of ground here before.
401
00:17:23,880.8018965 --> 00:17:27,639.1352298
And we got to just, as we walked Quote, memorize scripture and sing songs.
402
00:17:27,639.1352298 --> 00:17:27,814.1352298
And.
403
00:17:27,980.8018965 --> 00:17:28,530.8018965
And things like that.
404
00:17:28,530.8018965 --> 00:17:32,430.8018965
And something that was going through my mind was, I wonder if this has ever happened on this dirt before.
405
00:17:32,689.1352298 --> 00:17:33,264.1352298
Maybe not.
406
00:17:33,322.4685632 --> 00:17:35,447.4685632
But may Jesus be praised in our lives as we go through.
407
00:17:35,822.4685632 --> 00:17:39,272.4685632
And may it be for the first time or not, but it very likely could have been the first time.
408
00:17:39,439.1352298 --> 00:17:39,689.1352298
Yeah.
409
00:17:40,189.1352298 --> 00:17:40,987.4685632
That's really awesome.
410
00:17:41,187.4685632 --> 00:17:43,226.3574521
So, what did your story.
411
00:17:43,226.3574521 --> 00:17:45,301.3574521
Through Nepal teach you about people.
412
00:17:45,468.0241187 --> 00:17:45,668.0241187
Yeah.
413
00:17:45,734.6907854 --> 00:17:48,459.6907854
People follow many things that are put in front of them.
414
00:17:48,509.6907854 --> 00:17:50,959.6907854
And oftentimes I think don't ask many questions.
415
00:17:51,334.6907854 --> 00:17:52,959.6907854
To determine for themselves what.
416
00:17:53,359.6907854 --> 00:17:55,459.6907854
Truth actually is a lot of other cultures.
417
00:17:55,926.3574521 --> 00:17:59,126.3574521
You wouldn't really hear this in America, but you share the gospel with someone.
418
00:17:59,526.3574521 --> 00:18:03,976.3574521
And they actually tell you, I need to talk to my family and see what my family will do with this.
419
00:18:04,1.3574521 --> 00:18:06,176.3574521
And if my family is willing, then I will.
420
00:18:06,343.0241187 --> 00:18:07,834.6907854
I will follow Jesus, but Yeah.
421
00:18:07,859.6907854 --> 00:18:10,759.6907854
Just kind of seeing that the frailty of humanity that we.
422
00:18:10,926.3574521 --> 00:18:13,826.3574521
We follow what's put in front of us so many times, even if it's the wrong thing.
423
00:18:13,993.0241187 --> 00:18:14,193.0241187
Yeah.
424
00:18:14,201.3574521 --> 00:18:16,851.3574521
Even to To the point where it would cause you to walk away from Jesus.
425
00:18:17,151.3574521 --> 00:18:18,226.3574521
And believe a lie.
426
00:18:18,393.0241187 --> 00:18:18,568.0241187
Yeah.
427
00:18:18,718.0241187 --> 00:18:24,151.3574521
Is there anything else from the story that you learned about people are gone? Maybe I could just share a story.
428
00:18:24,201.3574521 --> 00:18:28,126.3574521
Another thing that's highlighted in my mind of this trip and then kind of share more from there.
429
00:18:28,459.6907854 --> 00:18:28,559.6907854
Yeah.
430
00:18:28,559.6907854 --> 00:18:29,834.6907854
So we were staying in a motel.
431
00:18:29,859.6907854 --> 00:18:33,209.6907854
It was me Robert and another goer that we were partnering with during that track.
432
00:18:33,543.0241187 --> 00:18:34,743.0241187
Which was not the full extent of the trip.
433
00:18:34,768.0241187 --> 00:18:36,718.0241187
That was about a 10 or 11 day.
434
00:18:37,118.0241187 --> 00:18:37,718.0241187
Part of it.
435
00:18:37,743.0241187 --> 00:18:41,484.6907854
But we were waiting for a Jeep ride to go to the.
436
00:18:41,934.6907854 --> 00:18:43,501.3574521
The airport the fly out of this.
437
00:18:43,951.3574521 --> 00:18:44,626.3574521
This region.
438
00:18:45,201.3574521 --> 00:18:48,776.3574521
And while we were at the motel in the couple of days, time we had.
439
00:18:49,351.3574521 --> 00:18:50,251.3574521
Between getting back.
440
00:18:50,501.3574521 --> 00:18:51,251.3574521
And flying out.
441
00:18:51,601.3574521 --> 00:18:53,226.3574521
We were in our room.
442
00:18:53,676.3574521 --> 00:18:55,451.3574521
And the window was open.
443
00:18:56,26.3574521 --> 00:18:57,976.3574521
And this was like a six story motel.
444
00:18:58,351.3574521 --> 00:18:58,926.3574521
And.
445
00:18:59,93.0241187 --> 00:19:00,768.0241187
We heard a bunch of screaming outside.
446
00:19:00,934.6907854 --> 00:19:02,326.3574521
And there was yeah.
447
00:19:02,401.3574521 --> 00:19:04,926.3574521
You could tell it was a lot of people and they were yelling, they were screaming.
448
00:19:05,93.0241187 --> 00:19:05,543.0241187
I thought.
449
00:19:05,893.0241187 --> 00:19:07,668.0241187
I'm like, I think this is probably a fight.
450
00:19:07,718.0241187 --> 00:19:09,793.0241187
I think something's happening outside really bad.
451
00:19:09,868.0241187 --> 00:19:10,843.0241187
It must be a fist fight or something.
452
00:19:10,843.0241187 --> 00:19:14,118.0241187
And we looked out the window and we saw a man running up the hill.
453
00:19:14,284.6907854 --> 00:19:18,234.6907854
With a boy in his arms and the boy was unresponsive and we didn't know what had happened.
454
00:19:18,684.6907854 --> 00:19:19,909.6907854
But we ran up to the lobby.
455
00:19:20,76.3574521 --> 00:19:27,126.3574521
And at that point, We're figuring out in the chaos of screaming and crying Hindus everywhere.
456
00:19:27,701.3574521 --> 00:19:30,376.3574521
That this boy had fallen from the fourth floor window.
457
00:19:30,851.3574521 --> 00:19:31,551.3574521
To the ground.
458
00:19:31,651.3574521 --> 00:19:35,251.3574521
And that ground was just a hillside of rocks and dirt.
459
00:19:35,651.3574521 --> 00:19:37,426.3574521
And so he probably fell about 40 feet.
460
00:19:37,593.0241187 --> 00:19:38,68.0241187
And.
461
00:19:38,234.6907854 --> 00:19:41,359.6907854
The boys on the couch and they're jostling him all, all over the place.
462
00:19:41,384.6907854 --> 00:19:46,434.6907854
And it's super hard to watch because like, they don't realize if this boys, you know, broken something or.
463
00:19:46,884.6907854 --> 00:19:48,684.6907854
Yeah, it has internal bleeding that this is really bad, but.
464
00:19:49,226.3574521 --> 00:19:57,793.0241187
W by God's grace inside of him giving us favor in this situation, Robert and I were able to kind of get in the middle of the mass chaos and get people to calm down.
465
00:19:57,793.0241187 --> 00:19:59,293.0241187
At this point, the boy was actually responsive.
466
00:19:59,459.6907854 --> 00:20:00,384.6907854
We got people to calm down.
467
00:20:00,409.6907854 --> 00:20:01,884.6907854
We got a lot of them to leave and.
468
00:20:02,393.0241187 --> 00:20:04,234.6907854
We were checking the boy out to see what was going on.
469
00:20:04,259.6907854 --> 00:20:08,84.6907854
His eyes were following our finger in front of them as we, we moved it.
470
00:20:08,459.6907854 --> 00:20:10,434.6907854
And his hands are moving, but his feet were not moving.
471
00:20:10,459.6907854 --> 00:20:15,493.0241187
And I asked Robert like, can you ask them if we can pray in Jesus name? And so he did.
472
00:20:15,493.0241187 --> 00:20:17,251.3574521
And some other woman that wasn't even the mother.
473
00:20:17,601.3574521 --> 00:20:18,176.3574521
Said yes.
474
00:20:18,176.3574521 --> 00:20:19,501.3574521
And so that's all we needed.
475
00:20:19,501.3574521 --> 00:20:22,426.3574521
We just put hands on this boy and started praying out loud.
476
00:20:22,518.0241187 --> 00:20:23,118.0241187
And at one point.
477
00:20:23,609.6907854 --> 00:20:28,284.6907854
Robert stood up and he said, we're praying in the name of Jesus so that everyone would know what we were doing.
478
00:20:28,368.0241187 --> 00:20:30,93.0241187
We were the only Americans there.
479
00:20:30,543.0241187 --> 00:20:30,893.0241187
And.
480
00:20:31,59.6907854 --> 00:20:33,784.6907854
So we lay hands on the boy and we're praying like in Jesus name, like.
481
00:20:33,951.3574521 --> 00:20:34,426.3574521
Be healed.
482
00:20:34,426.3574521 --> 00:20:35,501.3574521
Whatever's going on? Jesus.
483
00:20:35,501.3574521 --> 00:20:41,376.3574521
Would you put this boy back together? Whatever is not working, whatever could be wrong, you know, what'd you put your healing hands on this boy and we just fervently prayed.
484
00:20:41,626.3574521 --> 00:20:43,326.3574521
Out loud for about 10 minutes.
485
00:20:43,701.3574521 --> 00:20:45,576.3574521
And as we're praying, his feet started to move.
486
00:20:45,934.6907854 --> 00:20:46,934.6907854
And we kept praying.
487
00:20:47,101.3574521 --> 00:20:47,551.3574521
And.
488
00:20:47,718.0241187 --> 00:20:48,768.0241187
A little while later.
489
00:20:48,818.0241187 --> 00:20:53,526.3574521
So after, yeah, after about 10 minutes of praying over the boy someone came to take him to the hospital.
490
00:20:53,526.3574521 --> 00:20:54,626.3574521
And so they hauled him out.
491
00:20:54,793.0241187 --> 00:20:59,268.0241187
And later that night, we went up to the lobby and asked the guy behind the counter.
492
00:20:59,293.0241187 --> 00:21:01,43.0241187
I'm assuming this was the owner.
493
00:21:01,551.3574521 --> 00:21:06,184.6907854
If you had heard anything about this boy and I didn't share earlier, this boy was probably two years old.
494
00:21:06,351.3574521 --> 00:21:09,909.6907854
And the owner said, yeah the doctor that checked him out.
495
00:21:10,284.6907854 --> 00:21:11,659.6907854
Couldn't find anything wrong with him.
496
00:21:11,826.3574521 --> 00:21:13,651.3574521
And it's because you prayed.
497
00:21:13,818.0241187 --> 00:21:20,718.0241187
And I would have loved to have had conversations with many of the people in the room after that, but they were all like gone.
498
00:21:20,718.0241187 --> 00:21:22,418.0241187
There was like some conference that had taken place and.
499
00:21:22,584.6907854 --> 00:21:25,984.6907854
I think it must've come to a close and they had all left, so we didn't get to talk to them.
500
00:21:25,984.6907854 --> 00:21:26,351.3574521
But Yeah.
501
00:21:26,351.3574521 --> 00:21:27,676.3574521
When I walked into that room.
502
00:21:27,901.3574521 --> 00:21:31,451.3574521
I just heard in my mind, like the words of Jesus when he sends out.
503
00:21:31,876.3574521 --> 00:21:34,226.3574521
The 12 and he says, he'll heal the sick.
504
00:21:34,776.3574521 --> 00:21:37,426.3574521
And I was like, This is where we, this is where we'll be.
505
00:21:37,476.3574521 --> 00:21:39,101.3574521
This is where we go in and we do what he said.
506
00:21:39,126.3574521 --> 00:21:40,476.3574521
We put hands on him and we pray.
507
00:21:40,643.0241187 --> 00:21:41,493.0241187
And that was.
508
00:21:41,659.6907854 --> 00:21:42,684.6907854
Yeah, that was faith building.
509
00:21:42,684.6907854 --> 00:21:44,809.6907854
And that was a grace that God gave.
510
00:21:44,809.6907854 --> 00:21:48,659.6907854
And just thinking about this boy's life, I have no idea what will become of him, what he'll live to see and do.
511
00:21:48,968.0241187 --> 00:21:58,451.3574521
But God has put his hands on his life and I'm super thankful that we got to be a part of that and seeing how some of these things that maybe we think, oh, man, I don't know how to do that.
512
00:21:58,451.3574521 --> 00:22:03,276.3574521
Or if he's really going to do that through me stepping into faith and obedience sometimes.
513
00:22:03,793.0241187 --> 00:22:10,568.0241187
Even in tremendous weakness he wants to meet us there and not just so that we could say we have a cool story, but so that the kingdom of God would be seen.
514
00:22:10,868.0241187 --> 00:22:16,568.0241187
And known and heard and for his glory, right? I mean, in the word we see so many times Jesus heals and people believe.
515
00:22:16,593.0241187 --> 00:22:19,143.0241187
And so my hope and my heart is that is what's happening there.
516
00:22:19,143.0241187 --> 00:22:20,418.0241187
But unfortunately I have no idea.
517
00:22:20,926.3574521 --> 00:22:25,293.0241187
What any of those people are processing currently after being present for that? Wow.
518
00:22:25,459.6907854 --> 00:22:26,459.6907854
Oh, no, I don't know.
519
00:22:26,459.6907854 --> 00:22:32,693.0241187
Let's say, I can't even imagine what was going on in your heart and what you and Robert experienced.
520
00:22:32,859.6907854 --> 00:22:35,284.6907854
I can't imagine what the family is thinking right now.
521
00:22:35,451.3574521 --> 00:22:37,26.3574521
What the person who ran the.
522
00:22:37,193.0241187 --> 00:22:38,643.0241187
Hotel or whatever it was.
523
00:22:38,851.3574521 --> 00:22:40,126.3574521
What he was thinking.
524
00:22:40,431.9130076 --> 00:22:45,231.9130076
But as you look back on this trip, And what you saw God do.
525
00:22:45,398.5796743 --> 00:22:47,98.5796743
What you learned about God and.
526
00:22:47,265.246341 --> 00:22:49,506.9130076
You know what you've learned about people? Like, how does this.
527
00:22:49,881.9130076 --> 00:22:51,673.5796743
What does this change? What's different.
528
00:22:51,840.246341 --> 00:22:54,20.8018965
What difference is this going to make.
529
00:22:54,20.8018965 --> 00:22:57,18.0241187
And just another average Joe's life.
530
00:22:57,240.246341 --> 00:22:58,40.246341
Going forward.
531
00:22:58,523.5796743 --> 00:22:58,823.5796743
Yeah.
532
00:22:58,823.5796743 --> 00:23:06,173.5796743
I think that when we abide in Jesus and when we ask for things, And be brave to ask for things I got.
533
00:23:06,223.5796743 --> 00:23:07,273.5796743
Give me your heart.
534
00:23:07,698.5796743 --> 00:23:09,198.5796743
Let me feel what you feel.
535
00:23:09,198.5796743 --> 00:23:11,998.5796743
Let me see things more through your eyes than mine.
536
00:23:12,165.246341 --> 00:23:13,815.246341
As we pursue him in that way.
537
00:23:13,990.246341 --> 00:23:14,790.246341
That takes no.
538
00:23:15,323.5796743 --> 00:23:17,98.5796743
You know, no great training in the word.
539
00:23:17,98.5796743 --> 00:23:17,398.5796743
No.
540
00:23:17,565.246341 --> 00:23:20,23.5796743
No tremendous leadership or platform or.
541
00:23:20,548.5796743 --> 00:23:24,348.5796743
Accolade or anything like that, but just a heart that wants to know and love Jesus.
542
00:23:24,806.9130076 --> 00:23:26,6.9130076
And we know we do that.
543
00:23:26,31.9130076 --> 00:23:28,81.9130076
We get to experience things that.
544
00:23:28,248.5796743 --> 00:23:29,723.5796743
That I think.
545
00:23:29,890.246341 --> 00:23:31,540.246341
Sometimes they're actually really hard and heavy.
546
00:23:31,640.246341 --> 00:23:37,40.246341
And when we flew out of this area, I just felt such a tremendous weight on my heart.
547
00:23:37,431.9130076 --> 00:23:38,281.9130076
This is so sad.
548
00:23:38,606.9130076 --> 00:23:40,381.9130076
We walked past so many people that.
549
00:23:40,548.5796743 --> 00:23:41,473.5796743
That have never heard.
550
00:23:41,498.5796743 --> 00:23:42,98.5796743
And.
551
00:23:42,265.246341 --> 00:23:43,165.246341
Generations before them.
552
00:23:43,165.246341 --> 00:23:43,740.246341
I've never heard.
553
00:23:43,740.246341 --> 00:23:43,865.246341
And.
554
00:23:44,31.9130076 --> 00:23:47,56.9130076
When we left the last village and we walked past a shrine.
555
00:23:47,581.9130076 --> 00:23:50,556.9130076
On our way out to get on the Jeep to leave the area the final day.
556
00:23:51,81.9130076 --> 00:23:52,706.9130076
I just felt a lot in that moment, too.
557
00:23:52,873.5796743 --> 00:23:54,298.5796743
And I want to be able to feel that.
558
00:23:54,723.5796743 --> 00:23:55,973.5796743
I think sometimes it's easy.
559
00:23:56,140.246341 --> 00:23:59,815.246341
To not let ourselves feel that to distract ourselves in some way.
560
00:24:00,265.246341 --> 00:24:02,15.246341
And I've done that way too many times.
561
00:24:02,415.246341 --> 00:24:05,265.246341
I would lost people around me that I could have been more intentional to share with.
562
00:24:05,431.9130076 --> 00:24:06,781.9130076
But yeah, I think I'm going to remember.
563
00:24:07,356.9130076 --> 00:24:10,640.246341
That I got to feel for just a moment, a couple of moments in time.
564
00:24:10,806.9130076 --> 00:24:12,106.9130076
This huge reality.
565
00:24:12,131.9130076 --> 00:24:12,681.9130076
That is.
566
00:24:12,848.5796743 --> 00:24:14,723.5796743
So heavy in a dark place like that.
567
00:24:14,890.246341 --> 00:24:16,890.246341
And I think because other places I've been.
568
00:24:17,98.5796743 --> 00:24:19,823.5796743
Our mostly hi Muslim.
569
00:24:20,315.246341 --> 00:24:21,690.246341
A higher Muslim context.
570
00:24:21,898.5796743 --> 00:24:23,690.246341
And they all know like ISA.
571
00:24:24,115.246341 --> 00:24:27,890.246341
Jesus, you know, And so it's not like they're more or less lost than.
572
00:24:28,56.9130076 --> 00:24:29,56.9130076
Tibetan Buddhist person.
573
00:24:29,181.9130076 --> 00:24:32,906.9130076
But when you talked to a bunch of people that would tell you, I've never heard the name of Jesus.
574
00:24:32,948.5796743 --> 00:24:34,648.5796743
I never knew that there was.
575
00:24:34,815.246341 --> 00:24:36,790.246341
Anyone that came to earth, lived a perfect life.
576
00:24:37,73.5796743 --> 00:24:38,198.5796743
And was killed.
577
00:24:38,773.5796743 --> 00:24:41,273.5796743
And it was impossible for death to keep him in the grave.
578
00:24:41,298.5796743 --> 00:24:48,48.5796743
He rose and gives people the ability to be, to walk in newness of life, just like he did when he stepped out of that tomb.
579
00:24:48,373.5796743 --> 00:24:51,248.5796743
And these people don't know, and haven't heard us like their BC.
580
00:24:51,798.5796743 --> 00:24:52,123.5796743
It's.
581
00:24:52,290.246341 --> 00:24:53,365.246341
It's a lot to walk away with.
582
00:24:53,531.9130076 --> 00:24:57,840.246341
Is it crazy, but That's how you recently have been kind of processing this idea.
583
00:24:58,315.246341 --> 00:25:00,615.246341
That there's a portion of the world.
584
00:25:00,781.9130076 --> 00:25:02,106.9130076
That is BC.
585
00:25:02,315.246341 --> 00:25:02,765.246341
I don't know.
586
00:25:02,790.246341 --> 00:25:03,315.246341
Maybe.
587
00:25:03,690.246341 --> 00:25:06,440.246341
Maybe somewhere in our conversations, that kind of blurped in a little bit.
588
00:25:06,490.246341 --> 00:25:07,715.246341
I don't think we talked much about it though.
589
00:25:07,881.9130076 --> 00:25:09,631.9130076
I've just been really blown away lately.
590
00:25:09,681.9130076 --> 00:25:10,231.9130076
How.
591
00:25:10,398.5796743 --> 00:25:11,848.5796743
Yeah, we're over here.
592
00:25:12,15.246341 --> 00:25:12,990.246341
In the west, right.
593
00:25:13,40.246341 --> 00:25:13,590.246341
I'm here.
594
00:25:13,590.246341 --> 00:25:18,365.246341
And the Bible says in Matthew six, that we are the light of the world.
595
00:25:18,815.246341 --> 00:25:20,415.246341
You know, a city on a hill.
596
00:25:20,581.9130076 --> 00:25:21,81.9130076
And.
597
00:25:21,248.5796743 --> 00:25:25,748.5796743
May I talk also about how the world can be this dark place without Jesus.
598
00:25:25,915.246341 --> 00:25:31,865.246341
And so we have these lights, we're like little lamp posts and fireflies and spotlights.
599
00:25:31,865.246341 --> 00:25:36,140.246341
And it's like here in America, we're just almost hoarding all these lights.
600
00:25:36,665.246341 --> 00:25:40,131.9130076
And when you go to a place like Nepal, Where there is no light.
601
00:25:40,298.5796743 --> 00:25:41,498.5796743
You're the first Christian.
602
00:25:41,948.5796743 --> 00:25:44,198.5796743
That guy on the roads probably ever met.
603
00:25:44,523.5796743 --> 00:25:44,798.5796743
Yeah.
604
00:25:44,965.246341 --> 00:25:47,540.246341
That was his first glimpse at daylight.
605
00:25:47,765.246341 --> 00:25:48,15.246341
Yeah.
606
00:25:48,181.9130076 --> 00:25:48,556.9130076
And.
607
00:25:48,723.5796743 --> 00:25:52,648.5796743
It's just amazing to me that they are living in complete darkness.
608
00:25:52,815.246341 --> 00:25:54,990.246341
And we're over here with all this light.
609
00:25:55,156.9130076 --> 00:25:58,181.9130076
Just been hitting me more and more lately, especially as.
610
00:25:58,348.5796743 --> 00:26:01,998.5796743
That whole group is living in an existence that is.
611
00:26:02,373.5796743 --> 00:26:03,23.5796743
Jesus has.
612
00:26:03,190.246341 --> 00:26:04,965.246341
He has no place in it's before Jesus.
613
00:26:05,140.246341 --> 00:26:05,540.246341
Right.
614
00:26:05,706.9130076 --> 00:26:05,956.9130076
Yeah.
615
00:26:06,123.5796743 --> 00:26:08,773.5796743
It's really, it's just very destitute.
616
00:26:09,273.5796743 --> 00:26:09,848.5796743
It's just.
617
00:26:10,15.246341 --> 00:26:12,740.246341
They don't even know what light looks like.
618
00:26:12,906.9130076 --> 00:26:13,81.9130076
Yeah.
619
00:26:13,248.5796743 --> 00:26:13,598.5796743
Man.
620
00:26:13,873.5796743 --> 00:26:14,823.5796743
What would you.
621
00:26:14,990.246341 --> 00:26:15,240.246341
Yeah.
622
00:26:15,265.246341 --> 00:26:17,590.246341
So as you process this trip and as you.
623
00:26:17,756.9130076 --> 00:26:20,331.9130076
Are telling your friends and family here, back in the states.
624
00:26:20,498.5796743 --> 00:26:21,848.5796743
About your trip? Like what.
625
00:26:22,15.246341 --> 00:26:23,690.246341
Are your kind of.
626
00:26:23,856.9130076 --> 00:26:26,706.9130076
Encouraging words, provoking words.
627
00:26:26,873.5796743 --> 00:26:28,765.246341
How are you sharing this with others? Yeah.
628
00:26:28,765.246341 --> 00:26:33,881.9130076
The first thing that just came to mind, as you asked that question was yeah, for like anyone listening to this.
629
00:26:34,48.5796743 --> 00:26:38,106.9130076
That if you've come to know Jesus and he has changed your life.
630
00:26:38,273.5796743 --> 00:26:40,573.5796743
And you're confident that he's changed or eternity.
631
00:26:40,740.246341 --> 00:26:43,240.246341
The word says that you are the light of the world.
632
00:26:43,406.9130076 --> 00:26:45,106.9130076
Like we are the light of the world.
633
00:26:45,131.9130076 --> 00:26:50,531.9130076
And to what degree that we take ownership of that is the degree to which we'll live.
634
00:26:50,531.9130076 --> 00:26:51,6.9130076
Like it.
635
00:26:51,481.9130076 --> 00:26:55,848.5796743
And so I just want to encourage people that like, yeah, if you've lived a life where.
636
00:26:56,15.246341 --> 00:27:01,140.246341
So many people know your name all over the place, or if you've lived a life where you've never left your hometown.
637
00:27:01,515.246341 --> 00:27:03,990.246341
And there's only a handful of people that you would call close.
638
00:27:04,156.9130076 --> 00:27:05,231.9130076
But if you know, Jesus.
639
00:27:05,506.9130076 --> 00:27:06,731.9130076
You are the light of the world.
640
00:27:06,898.5796743 --> 00:27:09,473.5796743
And living like that brings so much more joy.
641
00:27:09,931.9130076 --> 00:27:11,156.9130076
It's like we exist.
642
00:27:11,381.9130076 --> 00:27:12,31.9130076
To shine.
643
00:27:12,406.9130076 --> 00:27:14,356.9130076
We exist to reflect the light.
644
00:27:14,606.9130076 --> 00:27:15,506.9130076
That is Jesus.
645
00:27:15,673.5796743 --> 00:27:21,831.9130076
And when we don't do that, if you're a believer in you're like, I feel so subdued or I feel so less than what I feel like I should be or could be.
646
00:27:22,356.9130076 --> 00:27:27,81.9130076
It could be because you got a bushel over you and you just need to lift that thing off and own it and be the light of the world.
647
00:27:27,248.5796743 --> 00:27:29,398.5796743
And yeah, the truth is I'm sharing these things.
648
00:27:29,448.5796743 --> 00:27:31,298.5796743
And yet I looked at my track record.
649
00:27:31,648.5796743 --> 00:27:33,573.5796743
I could be the light more, a lot more.
650
00:27:33,906.9130076 --> 00:27:35,856.9130076
But I'm thankful for the times that he has made me to be.
651
00:27:36,298.5796743 --> 00:27:36,848.5796743
Bright.
652
00:27:37,198.5796743 --> 00:27:41,873.5796743
And getting to own that and say, praise God, because of Jesus that Jesus in me, I get to shine bright in this world.
653
00:27:42,181.9130076 --> 00:27:45,131.9130076
I just think that one day when we stand before him, we're going to be, we're not going to.
654
00:27:45,298.5796743 --> 00:27:48,623.5796743
We're not going to regret a single moment in time where we live to make him known.
655
00:27:48,790.246341 --> 00:27:49,440.246341
Not one.
656
00:27:49,615.246341 --> 00:27:53,598.5796743
So, I just hope that we, as the bride can shine, like we're intended to.
657
00:27:53,798.5796743 --> 00:27:56,273.5796743
And see the lost come to Jesus all around us.
658
00:27:56,440.246341 --> 00:27:56,915.246341
All right, Joe.
659
00:27:57,15.246341 --> 00:28:01,81.9130076
So as we kind of wrap this up today, Yeah, I would love it.
660
00:28:01,156.9130076 --> 00:28:02,656.9130076
If you would just share with us.
661
00:28:03,181.9130076 --> 00:28:08,31.9130076
A little bit more about Nepal using the Joshua project.
662
00:28:08,198.5796743 --> 00:28:08,673.5796743
App.
663
00:28:08,906.9130076 --> 00:28:14,531.9130076
Usually we go in there as the unreached people group of the day, and you can pray for a people group all over the world.
664
00:28:15,31.9130076 --> 00:28:17,656.9130076
That has never heard the gospel or as little.
665
00:28:17,823.5796743 --> 00:28:20,173.5796743
Little to no access.
666
00:28:20,506.9130076 --> 00:28:22,31.9130076
To Christian or to the gospel.
667
00:28:22,198.5796743 --> 00:28:26,548.5796743
And so can you just share a little bit more about Nepal and then maybe pray for us? Yeah.
668
00:28:26,598.5796743 --> 00:28:26,923.5796743
Yeah.
669
00:28:26,956.9130076 --> 00:28:29,906.9130076
So the country of Nepal itself has 227.
670
00:28:30,306.9130076 --> 00:28:31,331.9130076
Different people, groups.
671
00:28:31,415.246341 --> 00:28:37,173.5796743
And so we know yeah, it's every nation, tribe and tongue, right? So, in each nation there could be a lot of tribes and tongues.
672
00:28:37,548.5796743 --> 00:28:40,398.5796743
And there's 227 people groups in Nepal.
673
00:28:40,698.5796743 --> 00:28:43,48.5796743
And 218 of them are unreached.
674
00:28:43,48.5796743 --> 00:28:46,340.246341
So that just means that many are less than 2%.
675
00:28:46,698.5796743 --> 00:28:47,523.5796743
Jesus followers.
676
00:28:47,731.9130076 --> 00:28:48,156.9130076
So.
677
00:28:48,323.5796743 --> 00:28:48,623.5796743
So.
678
00:28:48,790.246341 --> 00:28:51,815.246341
There's almost 31 million people in Nepal.
679
00:28:51,981.9130076 --> 00:28:53,573.5796743
And there's 1.4,
680
00:28:53,573.5796743 --> 00:28:54,598.5796743
2%.
681
00:28:55,31.9130076 --> 00:28:55,815.246341
Christian adherent.
682
00:28:55,981.9130076 --> 00:28:56,706.9130076
It's heavily Hindu.
683
00:28:57,40.246341 --> 00:28:58,340.246341
81.4%
684
00:28:58,390.246341 --> 00:28:58,690.246341
Hindu.
685
00:28:58,856.9130076 --> 00:28:59,381.9130076
And Nepal.
686
00:28:59,548.5796743 --> 00:29:03,156.9130076
So, yeah, I'm just going to read a passage here that I think is kind of like an Anthem.
687
00:29:03,498.5796743 --> 00:29:05,23.5796743
Paul, the apostle wrote this.
688
00:29:05,23.5796743 --> 00:29:06,698.5796743
You'll find this in second Corinthians four.
689
00:29:07,198.5796743 --> 00:29:12,415.246341
And I just love the way he writes what the task is and doesn't sugar coat.
690
00:29:12,415.246341 --> 00:29:12,640.246341
It.
691
00:29:13,40.246341 --> 00:29:13,465.246341
At all.
692
00:29:13,573.5796743 --> 00:29:14,523.5796743
So I'm just going to read that really quick.
693
00:29:14,548.5796743 --> 00:29:15,198.5796743
And then Yeah.
694
00:29:15,323.5796743 --> 00:29:19,573.5796743
I'll pray as well, but it says, therefore having this ministry by the mercy of God.
695
00:29:20,73.5796743 --> 00:29:21,123.5796743
We do not lose heart.
696
00:29:21,290.246341 --> 00:29:23,715.246341
But we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways.
697
00:29:23,740.246341 --> 00:29:26,615.246341
We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God's word.
698
00:29:26,865.246341 --> 00:29:31,115.246341
But by the open statement of the truth, we would commend ourselves to everyone's conscience in the sight of God.
699
00:29:31,415.246341 --> 00:29:34,640.246341
And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.
700
00:29:35,40.246341 --> 00:29:41,840.246341
And their case, the God of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ.
701
00:29:42,115.246341 --> 00:29:45,565.246341
Who is the image of God for what we proclaim is not ourselves.
702
00:29:46,90.246341 --> 00:29:47,590.246341
But Jesus Christ as Lord.
703
00:29:48,65.246341 --> 00:29:53,140.246341
With ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake for God who said, let light shine out of darkness.
704
00:29:53,615.246341 --> 00:29:57,115.246341
Has shown in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God.
705
00:29:57,390.246341 --> 00:29:58,840.246341
And the face of Jesus Christ.
706
00:29:58,865.246341 --> 00:30:03,715.246341
So it's so clear that the unbelievers are those that are blinded by the enemy.
707
00:30:03,881.9130076 --> 00:30:04,981.9130076
And keeping their eyes closed.
708
00:30:04,981.9130076 --> 00:30:07,556.9130076
And every one of us that has come into the light was once.
709
00:30:08,131.9130076 --> 00:30:09,56.9130076
In the darkness.
710
00:30:09,515.246341 --> 00:30:11,115.246341
So I hope we, we can.
711
00:30:11,390.246341 --> 00:30:20,65.246341
Regularly, take a moment to think about the fact that we are set free from darkness that is no longer our reality, and that we've been given a task and a pretty clear.
712
00:30:20,198.5796743 --> 00:30:25,873.5796743
Expectation on what it looks like we might share and people reject and people refuse and it's because their eyes are veiled.
713
00:30:26,381.9130076 --> 00:30:29,381.9130076
So we ought to have compassion on these people and trust that as we share.
714
00:30:29,781.9130076 --> 00:30:31,706.9130076
There will be people that step into the light and just like we did.
715
00:30:31,881.9130076 --> 00:30:34,156.9130076
Is this where you'd like me to pray JT? Cool.
716
00:30:34,181.9130076 --> 00:30:34,406.9130076
Yeah.
717
00:30:34,715.246341 --> 00:30:35,440.246341
So I'll just pray.
718
00:30:35,615.246341 --> 00:30:37,440.246341
Over those listening and even over ourselves.
719
00:30:37,606.9130076 --> 00:30:42,956.9130076
Jesus, thank you so much that you have opened the flood gates of your grace into our lives.
720
00:30:43,481.9130076 --> 00:30:49,481.9130076
That we have been set free completely from the law of sin and death and that Jesus.
721
00:30:49,856.9130076 --> 00:30:53,856.9130076
On one side of the scale with his righteousness on the other side of the scale with our broken.
722
00:30:54,206.9130076 --> 00:30:59,131.9130076
Sin he wins because he's set us free and he came and paid our debt.
723
00:30:59,506.9130076 --> 00:31:03,131.9130076
And our sin can't tangle with his righteousness and win.
724
00:31:03,365.246341 --> 00:31:06,690.246341
When we are his, so thank you that you're washing us continually and making us more like Jesus.
725
00:31:06,690.246341 --> 00:31:08,165.246341
And that's the point of every season.
726
00:31:08,598.5796743 --> 00:31:11,333.5796743
And why all things work together for good for us.
727
00:31:11,808.5796743 --> 00:31:13,833.5796743
And the point is that we would become more like Jesus.
728
00:31:14,266.9130076 --> 00:31:15,941.9130076
So Jesus, I just pray that you'd use this episode.
729
00:31:15,941.9130076 --> 00:31:20,41.9130076
Use this time, these words for your glory, would you use our lives for your glory? Would you.
730
00:31:20,500.246341 --> 00:31:22,350.246341
Open doors around us for the gospel.
731
00:31:22,400.246341 --> 00:31:29,341.9130076
And would you give us the ability to take heart? When we see rejection but that we'd have compassion and be driven by love, towards the lost all around us.
732
00:31:29,766.9130076 --> 00:31:30,566.9130076
And that was your heart.
733
00:31:30,566.9130076 --> 00:31:31,316.9130076
Jesus was love.
734
00:31:31,366.9130076 --> 00:31:38,491.9130076
So Phyllis, up with that, and we thank you so much that everything is ours in Christ, and that we don't ask for these things without the ability to receive them, you are worthy.
735
00:31:38,491.9130076 --> 00:31:38,941.9130076
You are good.
736
00:31:39,66.9130076 --> 00:31:42,166.9130076
You are going to get praises for eternity and we're going to give them to you.
737
00:31:42,691.9130076 --> 00:31:43,591.9130076
I pray all these things in your name.
738
00:31:43,591.9130076 --> 00:31:43,891.9130076
Jesus.
739
00:31:43,891.9130076 --> 00:31:49,770.246341
Amen Well, Joe, I really do appreciate you taking the time to share your story on the show.
740
00:31:49,945.246341 --> 00:31:54,45.246341
I'm really thankful that we know through scripture that God loves to use.
741
00:31:54,211.9130076 --> 00:31:58,36.9130076
The week and lowly and have bridge and the normal.
742
00:31:58,203.5796743 --> 00:31:59,403.5796743
To confound the wise.
743
00:31:59,653.5796743 --> 00:32:02,103.5796743
God wants to use people like you and me.
744
00:32:02,270.246341 --> 00:32:03,370.246341
And that's just so encouraging.
745
00:32:03,620.246341 --> 00:32:05,20.246341
He wants to use all of us.
746
00:32:05,186.9130076 --> 00:32:08,11.9130076
And he wants to pursue and have relationship with all of us.
747
00:32:08,36.9130076 --> 00:32:09,311.9130076
I'm just really thankful for that.
748
00:32:09,486.9130076 --> 00:32:12,36.9130076
Yeah, I can just really relate to that part of the story.
749
00:32:12,203.5796743 --> 00:32:16,103.5796743
And just thankful for how much you shared about the people in Nepal.
750
00:32:16,503.5796743 --> 00:32:18,428.5796743
And just getting to hear your heart for them.
751
00:32:18,636.9130076 --> 00:32:24,661.9130076
Yeah, it is truly a blessing to be able to hear people tell of what they've seen in her.
752
00:32:24,661.9130076 --> 00:32:25,186.9130076
God, too.
753
00:32:25,736.9130076 --> 00:32:26,486.9130076
All around them.
754
00:32:26,653.5796743 --> 00:32:29,178.5796743
It's just so awesome to be able to see them light up.
755
00:32:29,345.246341 --> 00:32:30,620.246341
When they're talking about Jesus.
756
00:32:30,786.9130076 --> 00:32:31,511.9130076
And so guys.
757
00:32:31,678.5796743 --> 00:32:33,203.5796743
This is seen and heard.
758
00:32:33,478.5796743 --> 00:32:37,678.5796743
This is a podcast where we just can't help, but tell others of what we have seen in her God doing our lives.
759
00:32:37,845.246341 --> 00:32:39,778.5796743
And I just pray that will be your story too.
760
00:32:39,945.246341 --> 00:32:44,261.9130076
What has God done in your life this week? What'd you read in his word that blew you away.
761
00:32:44,428.5796743 --> 00:32:48,970.246341
Well, how did he meet you in that time of prayer this week? Tell somebody about it.
762
00:32:49,136.9130076 --> 00:32:49,811.9130076
He is worthy.
763
00:32:49,978.5796743 --> 00:32:51,203.5796743
We'll see you guys again, next time.