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June 1, 2026 • 86 mins

Don’t try to build a love affair with another person before you’ve built one with God.

Alex Z. and Natalie Z. are back, this time sharing what it really looks like to build a marriage in recovery.

Blending a family, growing individually, and staying grounded in sobriety isn’t always easy. But from their first date, eating chicken wings and talking about God for hours, there was something deeper than connection. There was intention.

Natalie shares how recovery changed what she looks for in a relationship. Alex reflects on the moments that deepened his respect for her, including the strength and grace she displayed with the birth of their child.

Together, they talk about balancing marriage and recovery, keeping their primary purpose first, and staying connected through simple practices like holding hands and praying together.

They also share hard truths.

Don’t paint red flags green just to keep someone. And don’t try to build a love affair with another person before you’ve built one with God.

This episode is a reminder that healthy love in recovery starts with a strong foundation.

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🎧 Arrested, Addicted, and Awakened: Alex Z.’s Journey to Sobriety

🎧 Natalie Z.: All In, All the Time

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