A Mangaka’s Dilemma | DNAnime #28

Its the 28th episode of DNAnime! This one we talk about our feelings on mangaka who hate their own work! Have a question you'd like answered on the next episode of DNanime? Leave it in the comments! The hosts for this podcast are @Vixeal_ and @Viewtiful_Krow Come catch us live over on twitch at either https://www.twitch.tv/vixeall OR http://www.twitch.tv/Viewtiful_krow

Episode Transcript

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I would, I would much prefer you be able to give it to somebody that wants to put their heart into it, as opposed to like, you're just sinking like a black hole of depression into this, into this happy go lucky family.
We don't even know about it.
Like, if you don't look into the background, you'll never know. 4 00:00:16,530.001 --> 00:00:18,659.999 It doesn't feel like he hates it at all.
It feels like a total disconnect from how he feels towards his own characters.

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Hey, what's up, everybody? It's your boys.
And we are back with the 28th episode of the D in anime podcast.
Am beautiful crow.
I'm here with my co host Vic seal and we are back to talk about some fun anime topics.
Actually, I've been very, very, very excited to talk about anime recently.
Not just because of Don Don, but because there's a bunch of good shows that are coming out.

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If you guys missed the last episode of the podcast, we talked about the fall 2024 season. 13 00:00:59,344.999 --> 00:01:04,594.999 If you guys want to get a quick look or a quick update of some of the things that we're hyped for, for this season, go back and watch it.
Give it a like, give us a subscribe check us out in the audio podcast and realm and give us the five star rating and review.
Let us know what the podcast is good.
There's no podcast.
It's not great.

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Let us know and join the conversation and hang out with the boys.
.9995What is better than sharing your love of anime with other anime fans? You know what I mean? Vix, how are you doing today? I'm doing fantastic. 20 00:01:24,569.9995 --> 00:01:29,449.999 I'm ready to talk about I was thinking about this topic for a long time that we got planned for today.
.999I think about it all the time. 22 00:01:31,959.999 --> 00:01:35,710 And as soon as I put it up on screen, everybody's going to agree with me and be like, man.

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I know that feeling, but we haven't gotten into it yet.
We're going to talk about Don to Don first.
.9Let's talk about some Don to Don.
We had, we had chat here talking about it.
.999Everybody in the discord keep talking about Don to Don.
It's so good, dude.
I was, I was waiting, I was waiting for Granny Psycho to show up.

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.999I was like, I was like, who is gonna be the first one to be like, would? Dude, okay. 31 00:02:07,970.099 --> 00:02:10,890 It's funny, cause I didn't think about it really.
I, cause, Don Da Don is just like a whiplash.
Of like, just things are happening.
Like, there's just so many things happening.
I don't really think about, like, the world and be like, Wait, this doesn't make any sense.

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.999Well, you know, Realistic Obama totally makes sense.
Again, if you guys are just anime only.
It's Realistic White Guy.
So, you know, it's not the same.
But, it's so many crazy things happening, Don to Don, that I don't really think of, like, Oh, wait, does this make any sense? So, I never think about Granny Psycho being the granny.
And it being, like, fucking hot as shit.
Like, the baddest. 43 00:02:37,970.1 --> 00:02:39,649.9 The baddest.
They never really explained it, but I was just like, I love her.

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I mean, she just, you know, it is, it's just like one of those things that, you know, the whole, the entirety of Dandodon is for like anime vets who have already reached that level of, I'll just run with it.
It's just anime.
Every single aspect hits that mark where you're just like, what? You know what? It's just an anime.
I'm a ride with it.

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They got, they got granny psycho doing it.
And they got like the crazy events that happened.
Like what has happened in the first three episodes is like lightly touching on what they get into, like way later.
If you, if you like it so far, then later on, you're going to be like, what the f, what is even going on? I can't wait.
I can't wait for them to animate the whole thing.

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This thing better get like five seasons.
They better give it to like UFO to bull or keep it where it is.
Who's who's got it now? Who's who's running it now? So the studio, I can't remember the name, but a studio to do devil may cry baby, which I think is awesome because devil may cry baby is a weird anime, but I think it fits perfect for Don to Don.
Yeah. 58 00:03:44,85.1 --> 00:03:45,251.02 They killed the opening. 59 00:03:45,251.02 --> 00:03:45,478.98 Great. 60 00:03:45,478.98 --> 00:03:47,315 They're doing a fantastic job.

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Cause I love Okaru's transformation.
Like, he's supposed to look like a lanky freak.
And that's what they're good at.
If you watch anything of Devil May Cry, baby.
Dude, the voice actors for, for him when he transformed, they were so good. 66 00:03:59,840.1 --> 00:04:08,310 Both the Japanese and the English voice actors were so freaking good for his transformation form.

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Like, actually the English dub is like really good all around.
And then like.
The transformation where he gets like all depressed.
That made me laugh so hard.
.9995It's so not the Don is amazing again. 72 00:04:21,939.9995 --> 00:04:24,850 We'll talk about it probably the entirety of the season going on.
I expect to hear at least one instance of Don to Don every week.
Exactly.

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So you got to stay here for your Don to Don reference of the week. 76 00:04:30,865.1 --> 00:04:38,975 Like a segment, have like a graphic pop up is like drum roll, but like down to down, it's just jam out.
Exactly.
We got to do it down to down walk that all the characters are doing now, where they just like they do to eat a walk from fucking my hero.
But Dandedan's amazing, we're both caught up in the manga every week now I'm waiting for the chapter to drop and I read it and I'm just like, I want more, like, I haven't really enjoyed it, man, and it's just one piece of You need to drop another 168 chapters at the same time so I can finish it all in two days like I did the first half! I wish, but yeah, if you guys want more of that, again, the last podcast, we talked about a lot of animators coming out this season in detail.

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So that's a little snippet. 81 00:05:10,560.1 --> 00:05:12,810 Not just Dom to Dom, there was more there.
It was a lot of Dom to Dom, but yes, there was more. 83 00:05:17,289.999 --> 00:05:20,940 But yeah, oh, also, I want to talk to you about this, right? So we're both anime heads.
We both read One Piece.
Have you heard the news that One Piece is going on hiatus? I have it is only the anime, though.
Yep.
.999So right now, I think the manga is on a week break because all has been doing a week breaks like you'll do four or five chapters and then take a break off, which is great.

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You let the man rest.
He's writing a fucking masterpiece.
Let him rest. 91 00:05:39,859.999 --> 00:05:47,180 But yeah, the anime will be going on hiatus until April 2025, which is kind of crazy because the reason that they came out with.
Where they were like, Hey, we don't believe that the animation is crazy.
This is like, I'm, I'm shocked because they're like the animation is not any of their mouths.

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Like if this was Thriller Bark, if this was Fishman Island, something like that, then I'm like, you know what? I understand they want to, you know, knock it up.
Cause I love one piece.
I think one piece is great.
.999But, you know, the pace in the weekly forever weekly show that it was like, it wasn't the best looking at me ever, but that stopped the whole horse in Wano egghead and everything that they're doing.

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.999Currently, one piece has been like the greatest thing to the point where I was literally doing watch alongs whenever there's a big episode like the the king.
.9The war is liberation.
Yeah, the Sanji Queen fight, the Zoro King fight.
Luffy versus Kaido were like events like they were so special.
They were destroying Crunchyroll.

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.999Everybody was excited for it.
So we'd all watch it together.
It felt like watching Game of Thrones again, not in the same way, but just how excited everybody was.
You know, I mean, to the point where everybody's like, I want to watch you guys.
We're going to talk about like, this looks amazing.
And they've been killing it.
And I feel like it's only gotten better in egghead.
The anime has been looking incredible.
That Garp versus Aokiji fight.
.999Oh, my God.

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The thing that I've been really enjoying about one piece recently, and I love one piece of death, but it feels like the animators are not just extremely talented, but they love one piece.
There's so much love, like, like grandma's cookies.
There's so much love, packed into one piece right now, it's crazy.
Have you been seeing like all the the impact frames? Yeah, they always like hide something in there.

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Who was it, was it who was it that did like, somebody dapped each other up in the middle of the impact frame? Yeah, how'd you do that? Dude, it looks so good, it's just Like you see them in their past selves while they're fighting and they're like, like clashing of their fist in the impact frame is a them as they were younger, when Gart was trained out Kiji dapping each other up as they fish as their fist collide.

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Oh, I almost went and came at the same time.
.999It's so good. 120 00:07:53,994.999 --> 00:07:55,324.999 It's so good. 121 00:07:55,374.999 --> 00:07:56,664.999 It's so good.
So to see that they're taking this like six months hiatus to make it better.
Yeah.
.999I don't even know what they could do to make it better.
Like it's already fluid.
.999It's like their, their impact flame frames are like literally game changing.

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Other animes are trying to follow suit with more impact frames.
I don't know what they could possibly do.
They, I don't know, I don't know what the part is that they are not satisfied with.
It seems like it's all fine to me.
Like, I liked it.
One piece. 133 00:08:31,844.999 --> 00:08:34,155 They want one piece to be the greatest thing that ever lived.
Like, that's all I can think of.

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They want one piece to be the greatest anime ever.
And it is working its way to it.
Because good lord.
.999I mean, one piece is already amazing.
I think it's a masterpiece where it is right now.
But good Lord, the anime.
So I kicked it up 'cause I read, I, I was in college, this was a long time ago.
And I was like, you know what? I wanna get into one piece.
'cause I, I started watching one piece with the four kids Dub, right? And I loved it for what it was.
Yay yo, yay yo dreaming.

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But it wasn't that great, you know what I mean? So when they started re dubbing it, or actually when I, when they stopped dubbing it for Fundation, when Fundation kinda like went down or whatever.
I started watching this sub and I went all the way through Skypiea and everything else dubbed and I watched it and I was like, Oh, I love these guys.
They're idiots.
I love them so much.
And then I would just watch one piece and I was just like, watch 20 episodes a day and I got caught up.

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So I was like, you know, weekly at that point.
.999And then when I got weekly, I was just like, this pacing is terrible.
Because literally it'd be like, and go Roger.
.999He left all this crap in one piece and then you'll go through the intro of that.
You go through the anime opening and then it'll be a recap, like a three to five minute recap of the last episode.
To be fair though, every anime did the three to five minute recap before.

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That was like, that was, I don't know what their thought process was on doing that, but it was like, we all, all anime fans have goldfish memories.
Definitely, definitely needed it sometimes.
But most of the time I'm like binging a series and they're like recap.
Thankfully, thankfully Crunchyroll now has a skip recap button, which is amazing.

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They got their update.
They got the skip intro, skip ending and skip recaps.
.9The intro one was, the intro one was needed.
Because everybody skips intros, and it came from Netflix, I used to do it and then skipping the ending was like good because they had some animes that like to hide like five minutes of content behind the credits for some reason. 164 00:10:27,329.999 --> 00:10:27,490 Hate that.

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Don't do that. 166 00:10:28,779.999 --> 00:10:28,789.999 Oh.
What, what anime was it that did that recently? I kept missing stuff.
Oh, it was Remonster.
I kept missing things in Remonster and I watched the next episode and be like, what the, what are they talking about? And then I had to go back and they were like, Oh, there's like little snippets after the thing.
And then I stopped caring about Remonster.
I, dude, I hate it. 172 00:10:48,219.999 --> 00:10:49,410.0005 Like anime is always done. 173 00:10:49,410.0005 --> 00:10:51,229.999 There's always like one that wants to do that.

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Like they think it's good or something.
I don't.
I don't like that, I hate it.
Because I have to like, guess.
And sometimes it's more obvious, where it's like, it'll, it'll start the ending at like, 19 minutes, and you're like, Is there something afterwards I'm like gun shy now I have to like scroll in a little ticker to see if there's something else actually I do that to get it off my continue watching list is I'll click on the thing and drag it to the end and if it's not credits at the end I go back like one minute so you know you know what why I think they do that for certain shows because again in Japan and watch time up Yeah, so it's like they don't want their, their, I don't know, ratings to go down.

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So you're like, Oh, we want to be watching the entire thing all the way to the next show.
Keep ratings up.
So, hey, you got to stay for that Marvel style after credit scene.
.999Oh, I'm not.
.999So I'm going to drop that before I do that.
I mean, potentially, this is all just theory crafting over here with your boy.
But yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm excited.
It's kind of wild that one piece is going on a break.

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.099It's been a weekly anime for God knows how long. 188 00:12:00,535.099 --> 00:12:02,175.099 So it's kind of insane that they're taking a break. 189 00:12:02,175.099 --> 00:12:07,275.098 But I mean, actually, technically, they're not taking a break because you know what they're doing in that six months time frame. 190 00:12:07,505.099 --> 00:12:09,285.099 Working on the next episode. 191 00:12:09,575.099 --> 00:12:10,35.099 No. 192 00:12:10,45.099 --> 00:12:18,545.098 Well, that and they're also re releasing the Fishman Island arc and reanimating portions of it, which is crazy to me. 193 00:12:19,75.099 --> 00:12:22,385.099 I don't know why Fishman Island, because I'm not a lot of people like Fishman Island arc. 194 00:12:22,725.099 --> 00:12:24,105.099 I don't care about that bad. 195 00:12:24,105.099 --> 00:12:26,15.099 Like, it just kind of felt like an intermediary. 196 00:12:26,15.099 --> 00:12:32,950.099 And I was like, isn't that what it's supposed to be? Yeah, but I'm wondering why specifically they're doing that one. 197 00:12:34,60.099 --> 00:12:39,650.098 That's the only thing I was like, there's something important because right now in the well, I won't say where we are in the manga, I guess. 198 00:12:39,660.098 --> 00:12:42,850.099 But right now it's like a lot of stuff going on in the manga that's really fucking interesting. 199 00:12:43,160.098 --> 00:12:43,920.098 And I'm excited. 200 00:12:44,330.099 --> 00:12:50,30.099 But then at the same time, it's just like, it has to be a reason unless they're just going to do this for all. 201 00:12:50,40.099 --> 00:12:53,209.999 Like, they'll do like just re release each one. 202 00:12:53,210.099 --> 00:12:56,480.099 Yeah, like, like, dude, Dressrosa, Whole Cake Island. 203 00:12:56,480.099 --> 00:12:58,480.098 And just like whenever they have a break, they just go back. 204 00:12:58,480.099 --> 00:13:01,400.099 They're like, we're going to start releasing in one piece, but in like. 205 00:13:01,625.099 --> 00:13:07,965.099 The reverse order, so now they're going to go back and just slowly release it until Luffy is a child again. 206 00:13:08,965.099 --> 00:13:09,985.099 But they're doing this. 207 00:13:10,115.099 --> 00:13:14,775.099 But they're also doing the WIT studio like new retelling of the animus. 208 00:13:15,865.099 --> 00:13:20,845.099 So it's just like, how is that going to work with that? Because they're just like, they're going to start from East Blue from the beginning of the show. 209 00:13:21,115.099 --> 00:13:24,725.099 And then also have another remake going past the time skip. 210 00:13:24,725.099 --> 00:13:26,615.099 So it's just like, it's too much. 211 00:13:26,995.099 --> 00:13:29,105.099 They're going to take the Fishman remake. 212 00:13:29,520.099 --> 00:13:36,800.099 And they're going to release it so that when the one piece reaches before that, they can just drop the whole season at once and be like, by the way. 213 00:13:38,670.099 --> 00:13:39,230.099 That would be nuts. 214 00:13:39,430.099 --> 00:13:44,30.099 Just like remove it from one piece and then just like slide it over to the one piece. 215 00:13:45,910.098 --> 00:13:51,590.099 I don't know what they're going to be doing the full changes, but they said they're going to be remastering it, reanimating some scenes and sequences. 216 00:13:51,590.099 --> 00:13:52,720.099 I think they've shown some. 217 00:13:53,10.099 --> 00:13:53,870.099 I like the little cuts. 218 00:13:53,920.099 --> 00:13:58,960.099 It was like different little animation cuts and they said they were going to trim it down to fix the pace in the Fishman Island, which is great. 219 00:13:59,260.099 --> 00:14:00,450.099 I mean, Fishman Island is cool. 220 00:14:00,470.099 --> 00:14:01,550.099 First time you get to see Gear 4th. 221 00:14:01,620.099 --> 00:14:03,290.0985 Or actually, no, you don't get to see Gear 4th. 222 00:14:03,290.0985 --> 00:14:04,110.099 You see Red Rock. 223 00:14:04,400.099 --> 00:14:07,170.099 It's like the big thing and just hockey stuff with Luffy, I guess. 224 00:14:07,815.099 --> 00:14:10,365.099 But you know, you have to see the beginnings of year fourth, I guess. 225 00:14:10,525.099 --> 00:14:11,775.099 Technically, so, you know, it's cool. 226 00:14:11,775.099 --> 00:14:12,815.099 The holy fight was really cool. 227 00:14:13,5.099 --> 00:14:19,525.099 The only real reason why I like the holy fight like legitimately is because of AMVs that I watched around that time because they were always do like the holy fight. 228 00:14:19,525.099 --> 00:14:22,725.099 And you see like Luffy hit the red rock and it's like cool as you know. 229 00:14:23,425.098 --> 00:14:25,295.098 Yeah, it was like a skill evolution. 230 00:14:25,295.099 --> 00:14:26,155.098 And you're like, Nice. 231 00:14:26,185.098 --> 00:14:27,725.099 That means we get more. 232 00:14:28,520.099 --> 00:14:29,740.099 I was trying to think what song it played. 233 00:14:29,740.099 --> 00:14:30,770.099 I can't remember that band. 234 00:14:31,290.099 --> 00:14:32,540.099 But you know, that's not important right now. 235 00:14:32,540.099 --> 00:14:35,70.099 But yeah, anyway, one piece will hopefully be back soon. 236 00:14:35,200.099 --> 00:14:36,920.099 The manga will still be going, which will be good. 237 00:14:36,920.099 --> 00:14:38,180.099 They'll be able to get ahead in the manga. 238 00:14:38,380.099 --> 00:14:47,830.099 And hopefully that will also help some of the pacing issues because they'll actually have they won't have to adapt one chapter an episode, which is crazy to me that they're doing that because not a lot of meat on that bone in one chapter. 239 00:14:47,870.099 --> 00:14:48,950.099 Oda packs a lot. 240 00:14:48,960.099 --> 00:14:50,440.099 He packs a lot into his chapters. 241 00:14:50,510.099 --> 00:14:51,200.099 I will give him that. 242 00:14:51,530.099 --> 00:14:54,530.098 But you know, doing one episode, a chapter is nuts to me. 243 00:14:54,530.099 --> 00:14:54,950.099 But, hey. 244 00:14:55,165.099 --> 00:14:57,611.96823077 Hopefully that, that means the page will be better for us as fans. 245 00:14:57,611.96823077 --> 00:15:02,555.099 I haven't read the last two, three chapters cause it's, it's just a wall of text. 246 00:15:03,95.099 --> 00:15:09,895.099 It, it is, I opened it up, I read the first page and was like, Ooh, I'm not feeling this right now. 247 00:15:10,115.099 --> 00:15:11,115.099 It is a lot of text. 248 00:15:11,265.099 --> 00:15:13,855.098 Every panel is jam packed full of art. 249 00:15:14,325.099 --> 00:15:15,875.099 Cause Oda, Oda's the man, man. 250 00:15:15,885.099 --> 00:15:20,155.099 He'll, he'll jam pack some is in like the small corner of each panel. 251 00:15:20,415.099 --> 00:15:22,645.098 And then the rest of it is just all text. 252 00:15:24,745.099 --> 00:15:31,655.099 It's so much so yeah, at least it's showing that he's got like, you know, he's got the heart, he's got the passion for it. 253 00:15:32,155.099 --> 00:15:32,925.099 They're going back there. 254 00:15:32,995.099 --> 00:15:35,535.099 They're animating because their animators got the heart and the passion for it. 255 00:15:36,95.099 --> 00:15:42,955.099 But on the flip side, foreshadowing, we talk about blue lock some more fucking season. 256 00:15:44,455.099 --> 00:15:46,745.099 They need to go back and reanimate this. 257 00:15:46,775.099 --> 00:15:50,249.999 Did you know that somebody found the PNG that they used for the ball? Yeah. 258 00:15:50,770.099 --> 00:15:51,940.099 In the third episode. 259 00:15:52,350.099 --> 00:16:00,310.098 Are you serious? Yeah, because in the third episode, they, they, when they kick the ball in the triangle, the ball doesn't rotate at all. 260 00:16:00,900.099 --> 00:16:04,360.099 It just slides over and it connects it. 261 00:16:04,380.099 --> 00:16:12,100.099 Well, connects I put in quotes because it actually it goes behind the guy's like image layer. 262 00:16:12,425.199 --> 00:16:15,165.099 And then slides back to the other guy. 263 00:16:16,85.099 --> 00:16:19,765.099 Why? Bluelock was so awesome. 264 00:16:20,65.099 --> 00:16:23,525.099 Why did they mess this up? This is like, not even a mess up. 265 00:16:23,535.099 --> 00:16:26,205.099 This, like, somebody is doing this on purpose. 266 00:16:26,845.099 --> 00:16:28,485.098 This is not even animation. 267 00:16:28,485.098 --> 00:16:32,455.099 They are literally just clicking and dragging stuff around the screen. 268 00:16:33,15.099 --> 00:16:37,174.999 It is like a money laundering scheme or something like that. 269 00:16:37,175.099 --> 00:16:38,465.099 It is wild what they're doing. 270 00:16:39,205.099 --> 00:16:43,575.099 It is because, oh, wait, did you see? OK, so I guess I'll be just talking about bad animation in general. 271 00:16:43,725.098 --> 00:16:44,125.099 Let's go. 272 00:16:44,125.099 --> 00:16:44,915.098 Yeah, that's on it. 273 00:16:45,15.098 --> 00:16:47,935.098 I saw a clip from Uzumaki, the most recent episode. 274 00:16:48,165.099 --> 00:16:50,735.098 Oh, where two characters are falling down a hole. 275 00:16:51,235.099 --> 00:16:56,995.099 It's literally just a photo of two characters like a still image and they just fall. 276 00:16:57,285.099 --> 00:16:58,915.099 Yeah, that's like, oh, no, nothing. 277 00:16:59,805.099 --> 00:17:02,125.099 Every single character is like stationary. 278 00:17:02,325.099 --> 00:17:11,905.099 I watched like five minutes of the of the third episode and nobody moves like actually nobody actually moves. 279 00:17:12,5.099 --> 00:17:18,105.099 They like move them in the shot, but they themselves, the only thing that ever moves is their mouth. 280 00:17:18,105.099 --> 00:17:18,225.099 Yeah. 281 00:17:18,540.099 --> 00:17:19,780.099 That's the only thing that ever moves. 282 00:17:20,90.099 --> 00:17:27,0.099 And then like, when they zoom out, everybody on the field is stationary, except for the ball, which doesn't spin. 283 00:17:27,0.199 --> 00:17:31,670.099 So It's like, insane how, like, I've never seen something. 284 00:17:31,670.199 --> 00:17:35,889.999 We shit on seven deadly sins for so long. 285 00:17:36,910.099 --> 00:17:38,910.099 Blue lock was like, I got it. 286 00:17:40,300.099 --> 00:17:43,340.099 Blue lock literally became a motion comic. 287 00:17:43,820.099 --> 00:17:45,720.099 Then it's so crazy. 288 00:17:45,910.099 --> 00:17:47,940.099 It blows my mind every time I think about it. 289 00:17:49,100.099 --> 00:17:54,990.0985 I still want to watch the first, like, couple episodes just to see, like, how accurate it is. 290 00:17:54,990.0985 --> 00:18:03,225.099 But I've watched, like, Portions of each episode and every portion they they hit the PNG lock on on point. 291 00:18:03,225.099 --> 00:18:10,385.0985 I'm like, ah I'll get to it I'm not even I'm not even watching like I'm not even gonna hold you. 292 00:18:10,385.0985 --> 00:18:23,670.099 I'm not watching it Like how bad cuz everyone's like hoping that they're holding out for the u 20 match and I'm like, ah, I don't know about that one We got scammed man, we got scammed. 293 00:18:23,760.099 --> 00:18:27,500.099 Yeah, they, they, they baited us real hard on that one. 294 00:18:28,960.099 --> 00:18:30,590.099 That was, that's so wild. 295 00:18:31,750.099 --> 00:18:33,160.099 It sucks, man. 296 00:18:33,320.099 --> 00:18:35,370.099 Their animators must hate that show. 297 00:18:36,230.098 --> 00:18:37,390.099 Yeah, I don't know man. 298 00:18:37,785.099 --> 00:18:40,155.099 It's got to be one dude that he's just beating the shit out of me. 299 00:18:40,155.099 --> 00:18:41,125.099 Like you animate the show. 300 00:18:41,395.099 --> 00:18:45,105.099 Because like it, I don't understand how it's that bad. 301 00:18:45,335.099 --> 00:18:47,465.099 It's the same studio that did the first season. 302 00:18:47,565.099 --> 00:18:48,615.099 I genuinely don't. 303 00:18:48,625.098 --> 00:18:50,15.099 It's got to be some kind of crazy. 304 00:18:50,375.098 --> 00:18:53,705.098 Like either they're working on something else and have like a skeleton crew on the show. 305 00:18:53,935.099 --> 00:18:57,575.099 They fired everybody except for like the storyboard guy. 306 00:18:59,365.099 --> 00:18:59,575.099 Probably. 307 00:18:59,575.099 --> 00:19:02,175.099 I don't like, dude, somebody, please. 308 00:19:02,305.099 --> 00:19:07,185.099 If you're listening to this on the podcast, let us know if you know what's happening. 309 00:19:07,785.099 --> 00:19:09,205.099 I need an explanation. 310 00:19:09,205.099 --> 00:19:13,35.099 This, this is actually insanity. 311 00:19:13,325.099 --> 00:19:22,775.099 I can't think of any reason that they like would ship it like this in any other circumstance, they would have to just be like, Hey man, we need more time. 312 00:19:23,405.098 --> 00:19:26,245.098 Even before when they're like, we can't delay anything. 313 00:19:26,435.099 --> 00:19:28,675.098 They would never release this ever. 314 00:19:28,815.098 --> 00:19:29,305.098 Yeah. 315 00:19:29,865.098 --> 00:19:31,495.098 The Monica had to come to the offices. 316 00:19:32,555.099 --> 00:19:34,175.099 To be like, Hey, I want to see the blue lock offices. 317 00:19:34,175.099 --> 00:19:36,535.099 What y'all do with my anime? And then you're like, hold on there, buddy. 318 00:19:36,535.099 --> 00:19:37,515.099 I gotta go take a shit. 319 00:19:37,625.099 --> 00:19:38,405.099 And he goes to the bathroom. 320 00:19:38,405.099 --> 00:19:40,85.099 He just fucking destroys their toilet. 321 00:19:40,435.099 --> 00:19:42,625.099 It's all the animators just have to sit there to smell like shit. 322 00:19:42,635.099 --> 00:19:43,565.098 They're like, man, we hate this guy. 323 00:19:43,575.098 --> 00:19:44,665.098 We ruining this dude's shit. 324 00:19:45,75.098 --> 00:19:45,445.098 I don't know. 325 00:19:45,955.099 --> 00:19:47,135.098 That's my work in theory right now. 326 00:19:47,135.098 --> 00:19:51,155.099 How dare you shit in my toilet? He destroyed the animation studio's toilet. 327 00:19:51,415.099 --> 00:19:52,745.099 And they just had to smell his stinking ass. 328 00:19:52,745.099 --> 00:19:53,625.099 And they're just like, fuck it. 329 00:19:53,665.099 --> 00:19:54,505.099 Take the bunch out of the show. 330 00:19:54,505.099 --> 00:19:55,105.099 We're done with this. 331 00:19:55,145.099 --> 00:19:55,815.099 We hate this guy. 332 00:19:57,95.099 --> 00:19:59,45.099 He's a terrible human being, but yeah, it looks bad. 333 00:19:59,355.099 --> 00:20:03,105.099 Alright, in your opinion, what's worse, this or Seven Deadly Frames? This. 334 00:20:03,455.099 --> 00:20:14,335.099 Blue Log is like So, Seven Deadly Sins was like It was It was bad, but it was bad at like Because it was We made fun of it because it was bad at bad times. 335 00:20:14,890.099 --> 00:20:21,880.099 So, there were very important fights that they dropped the frames on, but it was still animation, they still did it. 336 00:20:22,520.099 --> 00:20:46,165.099 So, it was like, skipping frames, it was like, real choppy, the art was like, really childish, but this one, man, they just like, snapped a screenshot of like, random stuff, and then just like, Put it in there and then hit the what was it? The Adobe after effects, the like energy wave thing comes straight out of Adobe after effects that they actually used in there. 337 00:20:46,165.199 --> 00:20:52,975.099 So this is, this is like, it was unfortunate and seven deadly sins. 338 00:20:53,155.099 --> 00:20:56,704.999 It is offensive in blue lock. 339 00:20:56,705.099 --> 00:21:00,805.098 It is like they are actively making fun of anybody who watches that show. 340 00:21:01,475.099 --> 00:21:03,275.099 Yeah, it's so ridiculous. 341 00:21:05,415.099 --> 00:21:13,85.099 Oh, I can't I can't imagine anybody like having so much disdain for their work that they're doing that they're like, man, I just want to go home. 342 00:21:13,905.099 --> 00:21:19,885.099 Do they have a home since the first season? Yeah, but yeah, I genuinely don't know what the hell is going on with that. 343 00:21:19,885.099 --> 00:21:23,265.099 But there's a lot of amazing anime this season to check out. 344 00:21:23,305.099 --> 00:21:26,465.099 I'm going to be trying to catch up with some of the ones that I've been looking forward to. 345 00:21:26,715.099 --> 00:21:27,885.099 I have watched a couple. 346 00:21:27,995.099 --> 00:21:29,765.098 I guess we can get into that before we get into the topic. 347 00:21:30,185.098 --> 00:21:31,175.098 I watched Dragon Ball Diamond. 348 00:21:31,635.099 --> 00:21:34,355.099 I watched the first two episodes, I think the third episode is out, it came out on Friday. 349 00:21:34,535.099 --> 00:21:37,645.099 So I gotta catch up with that, but I've been watching it while I was doing cardio at the gym. 350 00:21:38,95.099 --> 00:21:40,835.098 And so I watched the first two episodes, the first episode was amazing. 351 00:21:41,825.099 --> 00:21:48,815.099 Like on the opposite end, we keep like, again, it's like a rubber band and because it was like, Oh, one piece animation is amazing. 352 00:21:49,5.099 --> 00:21:49,745.099 Ooh, blue lock. 353 00:21:49,745.099 --> 00:21:50,895.099 It was Maki garbage. 354 00:21:51,155.098 --> 00:21:51,585.098 Diamonds. 355 00:21:51,585.099 --> 00:21:53,195.099 Animation is fantastic. 356 00:21:53,195.199 --> 00:21:55,865.098 I haven't actually seen any of Dima. 357 00:21:55,865.099 --> 00:21:58,665.099 I've only seen like pictures of it. 358 00:21:58,715.098 --> 00:22:02,305.099 And even in the still pictures, it looks like it would be pretty decent. 359 00:22:02,910.099 --> 00:22:05,700.099 Because the thing is, is that they didn't really do much promotion for it. 360 00:22:05,880.099 --> 00:22:06,520.099 Like, it's weird. 361 00:22:06,530.099 --> 00:22:13,830.099 They had like one PV and it just was like, no, I'm a was for until like last week when everybody was explained. 362 00:22:14,820.099 --> 00:22:15,490.099 Yeah. 363 00:22:15,600.098 --> 00:22:19,470.099 So it came out finally again is Dragon Ball month and Halloween month, I guess. 364 00:22:19,500.098 --> 00:22:23,210.1 But it's it's Dragon Ball month and Dima's been amazing so far. 365 00:22:23,210.1 --> 00:22:25,70.1 The first episode was just straight up. 366 00:22:25,495.1 --> 00:22:32,115.1 Straight up just lore, like they, they expand so much of the Dragon Ball world, which is crazy for a series that's been around for 40 years or whatever. 367 00:22:32,545.1 --> 00:22:34,985.099 And they expand a bunch of stuff and there's a lot of interesting ways to kind of set it up. 368 00:22:35,215.1 --> 00:22:42,425.099 They do the whole thing of, ah, we're gonna turn everybody young to kind of set the stage of like, oh, they don't have access to all their abilities and powers and strength. 369 00:22:43,15.1 --> 00:22:47,955.1 And then they're going to go on an adventure to this new world and try to figure out how they can, you know, stop the bad guys. 370 00:22:48,185.1 --> 00:22:49,255.1 So it's really hard in the back. 371 00:22:49,255.1 --> 00:22:51,315.1 Again, Toriyama really likes doing this. 372 00:22:51,315.1 --> 00:22:52,735.1 This is Toriyama's final work. 373 00:22:52,965.1 --> 00:22:54,785.099 He worked on Dragon Ball Super Superhero. 374 00:22:54,815.1 --> 00:23:04,565.1 He worked and counseled on some of the manga stuff and did like some things for the manga And then he wrote and directed and helped out or whatever with Daima. 375 00:23:04,605.1 --> 00:23:05,985.1 And so this is his final work. 376 00:23:05,985.1 --> 00:23:07,365.1 And so far, it's been fucking amazing. 377 00:23:07,615.1 --> 00:23:14,645.1 Again, a lot of people have worked on Dragon Ball stuff, but Nobody does it better than Toriyama for what it is, is goofy, fun, fighting manga. 378 00:23:14,835.1 --> 00:23:18,275.1 It's not Mozart or anything and crazy, but it's the best at what it is. 379 00:23:18,535.1 --> 00:23:19,375.1 And I love Dragon Ball. 380 00:23:19,375.1 --> 00:23:26,925.1 So seeing this final work be so good and treated with so much love when the super anime was poorly animated, like that is not blue lock bad. 381 00:23:27,315.099 --> 00:23:30,495.1 The super the first two seasons of Super is bad. 382 00:23:30,505.1 --> 00:23:31,735.1 That beer is Goku fight. 383 00:23:32,555.1 --> 00:23:33,945.1 Well, that was terrible. 384 00:23:33,995.1 --> 00:23:35,905.1 But it's seven deadly frames bad. 385 00:23:35,905.1 --> 00:23:39,65.1 It's not like Bulak, which is pretty bad, though. 386 00:23:40,145.1 --> 00:23:40,975.1 It is bad. 387 00:23:41,125.099 --> 00:23:43,285.1 I remember being like, I'm not even going to watch this. 388 00:23:43,285.1 --> 00:23:45,145.1 Like, I straight up just stop watching super. 389 00:23:45,425.1 --> 00:23:49,905.099 And I just rewatched the original because the first two seasons are just the retelling of the super movies. 390 00:23:50,235.099 --> 00:23:53,885.1 So it's the Battle of Gods movie and revival of Frieza. 391 00:23:53,945.1 --> 00:23:54,725.1 And it's literally just. 392 00:23:55,35.1 --> 00:24:12,795.1 Taken and spread out between 24 episode seasons and it's animated so badly, but it is like a whole thing because a lot of the animators that got pulled off for one piece to do the one piece film red movie and it's so they had like a new team of people animating super and I guess they just couldn't get it together and couldn't figure out how to work together. 393 00:24:13,95.1 --> 00:24:15,305.1 So, like, for the first, like, two season, it looked really bad. 394 00:24:15,305.1 --> 00:24:17,615.1 They got a better flight tournament power and go black art. 395 00:24:17,625.1 --> 00:24:20,695.1 Those are really good, but the quality wasn't really up to snuff to me. 396 00:24:20,745.1 --> 00:24:23,445.1 And you know, it was, it was good, it was good, but it wasn't really like great. 397 00:24:23,545.1 --> 00:24:24,995.1 Dymo looks movie quality. 398 00:24:24,995.1 --> 00:24:25,505.1 It's amazing. 399 00:24:25,825.1 --> 00:24:26,815.1 So I've been really enjoying it. 400 00:24:26,835.1 --> 00:24:29,405.099 The action that we have seen hasn't been too much, but it's really cool. 401 00:24:29,405.099 --> 00:24:33,795.1 You want to know what is a really cool thing that happens in Dymo? So the first episode starts off with these characters. 402 00:24:34,120.1 --> 00:24:39,90.1 Sitting up there on the screen and rewatching events from the anime because they're trying to learn about the Z fighters and how to beat them. 403 00:24:39,850.1 --> 00:24:48,560.099 And you get to see a bunch of moments from like the Cell Saga or not really from Cell Saga, but through Dragon Ball history, mostly Boo, reanimated in the Daima animation. 404 00:24:49,420.1 --> 00:24:52,500.1 And oh my God, it looks so good. 405 00:24:52,510.1 --> 00:24:55,925 You get to see Super Saiyan Goku, Super Saiyan 2 Goku versus Majin Vegeta. 406 00:24:56,235.1 --> 00:24:59,355.1 Like how they fight starts with him in the tournament and then they're fighting each other. 407 00:24:59,385.1 --> 00:25:06,25.099 I was like, I want them to redo Z, give us the, the dragon ball, like they do with the one piece. 408 00:25:06,255.1 --> 00:25:06,865.1 Give it again. 409 00:25:07,755.1 --> 00:25:09,615.1 It's so good. 410 00:25:10,15.099 --> 00:25:10,595.0995 Oh my God. 411 00:25:10,595.0995 --> 00:25:14,635.099 And they keep giving us these teases because when the Dragon Ball Broly movie came out. 412 00:25:15,225.1 --> 00:25:19,105.1 They reanimated like a lot of or Dragon Ball Super Super Hero. 413 00:25:19,265.1 --> 00:25:21,165.1 They reanimated a bunch of Dragon Ball. 414 00:25:21,385.1 --> 00:25:25,455.1 It's gotta like re, you know, re educate people on the Red Ribbon Army. 415 00:25:25,455.1 --> 00:25:27,255.1 Because they're the main villains of Super Hero. 416 00:25:27,715.1 --> 00:25:30,175.1 So you get to see all this like kid Goku going around fighting people. 417 00:25:30,175.1 --> 00:25:31,715.1 To fight Red Ribbon Army and do all this stuff. 418 00:25:31,715.1 --> 00:25:34,140.0995 And Demon King Piccolo in a tournament. 419 00:25:34,140.0995 --> 00:25:37,650.1 And it looks I was like, do this. 420 00:25:37,700.1 --> 00:25:38,820.1 I want this. 421 00:25:39,180.1 --> 00:25:40,50.1 You know, I love Dragon Ball. 422 00:25:40,50.1 --> 00:25:42,70.1 I love Dragon Ball Z, but I would love them to redo it. 423 00:25:42,70.1 --> 00:25:45,560.1 So a new generation will be able to get into it without the watch show from the 80s. 424 00:25:46,70.1 --> 00:25:55,270 But yeah, man, the Dragon Ball has been amazing, but that's pretty much all I've really seen from this the season so far because I haven't had time to like sit down and plunk down and watch some anime. 425 00:25:55,270.1 --> 00:26:18,220.101 But yeah Yeah, anything that you've been watching that's caught your eye from this fall season so far, other than Don to Don? I mean, Don to Don, We, we only caught the first episode of Don Machi and it's, it introduced a lot of questions to me that they just like threw Seer into the limelight and it was like, it was kind of strange. 426 00:26:18,835.101 --> 00:26:24,505.101 Because everybody seems to be like connected to her, but they never talked about it before. 427 00:26:25,45.101 --> 00:26:29,795.101 So after just the first episode, Sears, the white haired maid chick. 428 00:26:31,660.101 --> 00:26:32,560.101 Oh, yeah. 429 00:26:32,570.101 --> 00:26:38,100.101 At the end of, in the first season, she's the one that brought Belle to the the Monster Festival. 430 00:26:38,920.1 --> 00:26:44,850.101 But, like, they didn't answer any questions, but they hinted at a lot of, like, her connections. 431 00:26:45,80.1 --> 00:26:49,435.001 If I had to take a guess, I would say that she's like Freya's half daughter. 432 00:26:49,835.101 --> 00:26:50,585.101 Or something. 433 00:26:51,95.101 --> 00:26:52,35.101 Oh. 434 00:26:52,145.101 --> 00:26:57,635.101 Because Freya's familiar is like interacting with knowledge of Seer a lot. 435 00:26:58,255.1 --> 00:27:02,385.101 And like, they're all acting like she's some kind of royalty. 436 00:27:03,185.101 --> 00:27:05,925.101 But at the same time, she works as a maid. 437 00:27:06,750.101 --> 00:27:23,40.1 So like she has to be kind of like on an outskirts and I was like this is I don't know what the fuck is going on But it is it is interesting that it is having to make me think about the connections of this character five seasons into the series So that was I like I like that. 438 00:27:23,40.102 --> 00:27:40,760.101 I hope that they don't just like leave that Unanswered I like they're making me think about it for right now Otherwise the world's most notorious talker was is still pretty good It kind of, I can see it going really generic. 439 00:27:41,460.101 --> 00:28:02,140.1 Very quickly, if they're not careful, because they just introduced the character that was like, really powerful, and then they're gonna, They, they did like a showcase for her ability, and she's just like, obscenely powerful, and then he can buff her, and so it's like this is either gonna be a cakewalk, or it's gonna be really cool. 440 00:28:02,155.2 --> 00:28:11,945.099 She ends up, if she ends up just being OP and she just runs over everything because of his buffs, then it's like, ah, well, pulling an Osan right now. 441 00:28:11,945.1 --> 00:28:14,895.099 And it's going to become the most okay est again. 442 00:28:16,115.1 --> 00:28:20,585.1 But if, if they have things that they can actually like fight against normally. 443 00:28:21,5.1 --> 00:28:22,25.1 Then it should be fine. 444 00:28:22,25.1 --> 00:28:22,635.1 It should be good. 445 00:28:24,245.1 --> 00:28:29,115.1 There's other than that, I don't think I have anything that's like, really stepped out. 446 00:28:29,115.1 --> 00:28:31,25.099 I mean, take a quick look. 447 00:28:31,25.1 --> 00:28:35,785.099 I know that Sharp brought up fairy tale and like fairy tale. 448 00:28:36,5.099 --> 00:28:37,219.999 I mean, fairy tale is just fairy tale. 449 00:28:37,850.099 --> 00:28:40,690.099 Fairytale still be fairytale and you have every time I see anything. 450 00:28:40,690.099 --> 00:28:42,150.099 I'm just like, Oh yeah, it's more fairytale. 451 00:28:42,150.199 --> 00:28:43,440.099 They fight stuff. 452 00:28:43,470.099 --> 00:28:44,410.099 Natsu's eating fire. 453 00:28:44,610.099 --> 00:28:46,540.099 He's on a mode of transportation. 454 00:28:46,540.099 --> 00:28:47,400.099 He get nauseous. 455 00:28:47,510.099 --> 00:28:48,260.099 It's fairytale. 456 00:28:48,340.099 --> 00:28:52,220.099 I think I watched the first episode of Shangri La Frontier, and I don't even remember. 457 00:28:53,530.099 --> 00:28:54,140.1 That's not good. 458 00:28:55,870.099 --> 00:28:56,270.098 I can't. 459 00:28:56,280.099 --> 00:28:58,480.099 Well, I can't remember what the first episode was. 460 00:28:58,480.099 --> 00:29:01,240.099 It might have just been like the last episode of the previous season. 461 00:29:01,430.099 --> 00:29:05,710.099 And I still got to finish the last couple of episodes because I just felt like it was just like wrap up shit. 462 00:29:06,110.099 --> 00:29:07,710.099 And I was like, Oh, I'll just wait for next season to come out. 463 00:29:07,770.099 --> 00:29:10,350.098 I just watch those all in like a chunk and get ready for the new season. 464 00:29:10,840.099 --> 00:29:11,460.099 And I haven't done it yet. 465 00:29:11,900.099 --> 00:29:14,750.099 Other than that, like Tower of God still kind of sucking. 466 00:29:15,560.099 --> 00:29:16,890.099 I can't believe I'm still watching it. 467 00:29:16,930.099 --> 00:29:17,930.099 It's still going. 468 00:29:17,960.099 --> 00:29:19,240.099 I can't believe I'm still watching it. 469 00:29:20,790.099 --> 00:29:21,490.099 Tension. 470 00:29:21,770.099 --> 00:29:22,750.099 Tension is moving on. 471 00:29:22,780.099 --> 00:29:25,790.099 Tension is introduced to the Kunoichi lady. 472 00:29:26,765.099 --> 00:29:32,795.099 So that's, it's still animated very well for like it just being like a remaster of the old stuff. 473 00:29:32,845.099 --> 00:29:33,365.099 I like it. 474 00:29:33,825.099 --> 00:29:34,655.099 I'm enjoying it. 475 00:29:35,240.099 --> 00:29:42,500.099 The, one of the surprise ones, I was like decent for like three seasons ago that we actually talked about as, as a reincarnated aristocrat. 476 00:29:42,500.099 --> 00:29:44,670.099 I'll use my appraisal skill to rise in the world. 477 00:29:44,960.098 --> 00:29:48,110.099 They're season two, also very good. 478 00:29:48,500.099 --> 00:29:56,860.099 They're, they're shining a, they're shining a limelight on like the main characters, like Beyonce or betrothed in this case. 479 00:29:57,340.099 --> 00:30:00,290.099 So she, she is very, she's kind of stepping up. 480 00:30:00,370.099 --> 00:30:01,650.099 She's showing off what she's got. 481 00:30:02,250.099 --> 00:30:05,700.099 I, I appreciate the effort that they've gone in and it is animated very well. 482 00:30:05,950.099 --> 00:30:11,270.099 It's, it's not like high action most of the time, but like, even the low bits are, are pretty smooth. 483 00:30:11,280.099 --> 00:30:12,920.099 So definitely a good one. 484 00:30:12,930.099 --> 00:30:16,460.099 If you like, if you're just like, man, what should I watch? Check that one out. 485 00:30:16,460.099 --> 00:30:16,960.099 It's a good one. 486 00:30:17,460.099 --> 00:30:25,290.099 Other than that, just the, just the typical Donna Don, you know, Don Munchies, all that good stuff. 487 00:30:25,330.099 --> 00:30:26,780.099 There's a couple I haven't started yet. 488 00:30:27,100.099 --> 00:30:43,400.098 White haired Kirito is, is on there Spirit Chronicles Season 2, it's literally just white haired Kirito, it's voiced by Kirito, and he's, he's got the black cloak, one, he's got the one sword, and white hair, that's like the, the, the generic anime boy haircut. 489 00:30:43,765.099 --> 00:30:47,305.099 It is literally cury toe with white hair But it's white hair this time. 490 00:30:47,305.099 --> 00:30:47,725.099 Yes. 491 00:30:47,905.099 --> 00:30:48,445.099 Yeah. 492 00:30:48,995.099 --> 00:30:49,655.099 Yeah. 493 00:30:49,655.099 --> 00:30:50,110.099 That's like the first one. 494 00:30:50,110.099 --> 00:30:50,750.099 Spice somewhere. 495 00:30:50,975.099 --> 00:30:51,215.099 Yeah. 496 00:30:51,215.099 --> 00:30:57,325.099 I mean, it was like, the first season was still like, all right, but like, I'm gonna watch the second season. 497 00:30:57,325.099 --> 00:30:59,935.099 'cause like, I didn't hate the first season, so I was like, I'm just gonna check it out. 498 00:31:00,585.099 --> 00:31:00,855.099 Mm-Hmm. 499 00:31:01,95.099 --> 00:31:01,97.099 We'll see. 500 00:31:01,102.099 --> 00:31:01,230.099 Mm-Hmm. 501 00:31:01,520.099 --> 00:31:01,990.099 We'll see. 502 00:31:02,920.099 --> 00:31:09,490.099 But all right, it looks like we're going to get into the first or I guess about that time, we're going to get into the topic of today. 503 00:31:10,860.099 --> 00:31:11,730.098 So actually, this is a fun one. 504 00:31:11,730.099 --> 00:31:15,20.098 So Vicks proffered this one up to me earlier today. 505 00:31:15,480.099 --> 00:31:22,760.098 And I had to think about it because as soon as he told me about it, there was a certain mangaka that I thought of immediately. 506 00:31:23,80.098 --> 00:31:28,500.099 So we're going to be talking about a topic that I honestly feel like a lot of people have been talking about a lot recently. 507 00:31:28,600.099 --> 00:31:31,600.099 But mangaka who dislike their work. 508 00:31:31,905.099 --> 00:31:33,235.099 It's going to be the topic of the day. 509 00:31:33,685.099 --> 00:31:38,575.099 So, when you, when you prophet this question to me, I immediately jumped to Gay Gay from JJK. 510 00:31:39,45.099 --> 00:31:40,985.099 That was, that was my second one. 511 00:31:41,55.099 --> 00:31:59,435.099 The thing that prompted me to Bring the, the topic up was spy family, because it hurts my soul every time that I hear how much he dislikes his own characters, because I like, I like your Anya bond. 512 00:31:59,635.099 --> 00:32:09,875.099 They're all like, they're so wonderful as a character and it pains my soul every time I hear him say that he did it against his wishes. 513 00:32:09,935.099 --> 00:32:11,795.098 Like he didn't want to make them. 514 00:32:12,350.099 --> 00:32:15,110.099 Or at least didn't make them in the form that he wanted to. 515 00:32:15,420.099 --> 00:32:25,610.099 And it's like, I want to see what he had planned, but that also probably means that he's not going to keep going with what Lloyd and your and Anya are. 516 00:32:25,610.099 --> 00:32:27,550.099 And that also makes me sad. 517 00:32:28,110.099 --> 00:32:30,970.099 Yeah, I really, really like it. 518 00:32:31,30.099 --> 00:32:36,960.099 I really prefer it when animators and manga like Enjoy or or put their heart into their work. 519 00:32:36,970.099 --> 00:32:38,220.099 It just feels better. 520 00:32:38,550.099 --> 00:32:40,490.099 It's weird that spy family feels so good. 521 00:32:40,500.099 --> 00:32:44,590.099 And then the his like the like backing is like, man, this sucks. 522 00:32:45,180.099 --> 00:32:49,650.098 Then the crazy thing about it is, is that because, again, those are the two that I have as well. 523 00:32:50,80.099 --> 00:32:51,20.099 So we can just talk about them. 524 00:32:51,30.098 --> 00:32:51,320.098 But. 525 00:32:51,655.099 --> 00:33:00,355.099 For Spy Family, I heard this story about him not liking his work, right? Like, he wanted to write a whole different story that was going to be more serious and everything like that, and he doesn't like spies. 526 00:33:00,575.099 --> 00:33:02,295.099 He doesn't like all the stuff, like, he hates everything. 527 00:33:02,295.099 --> 00:33:06,575.098 And it feels like the most Monkey's Paw, like, success story. 528 00:33:07,5.099 --> 00:33:09,645.099 Cause like, oh, he loves He just wished he wanted to succeed. 529 00:33:10,245.099 --> 00:33:29,635.099 Yeah, he's just like, I want to be a great mangaka, and then the monkey paw went down, and then he like, you are, you're one of the best, you got one of the best series out there, and an amazing anime, and people love it, but it's all the shit you hate, and you gon fuckin you gon make this till you fuckin die, but it's crazy to me because it's like, it doesn't feel phoned in. 530 00:33:30,35.099 --> 00:33:36,325.099 Yeah, like, it doesn't, the, it always, like, when I hear it after it's done hurting my soul, it always like. 531 00:33:36,940.099 --> 00:33:49,240.099 Resonates that he has to actively be aware of what everybody else wants and then able to not put his own spin on it when he wants to. 532 00:33:49,240.099 --> 00:33:54,300.098 So he is, he is fully 100 percent putting in what everybody else wants to see. 533 00:33:55,160.098 --> 00:33:57,950.098 That is astronomically difficult. 534 00:33:58,340.098 --> 00:34:00,730.098 It is so hard to not put your own spin. 535 00:34:00,730.098 --> 00:34:02,120.098 Like if you hate something. 536 00:34:02,655.099 --> 00:34:06,665.099 To create more of that thing would be so hard. 537 00:34:07,185.099 --> 00:34:10,305.099 I don't know how he's able to, like, separate it like that. 538 00:34:10,395.099 --> 00:34:13,395.099 But I can only imagine how difficult it is for him. 539 00:34:13,685.099 --> 00:34:16,575.099 Each episode or each chapter. 540 00:34:17,215.099 --> 00:34:18,865.099 It's crazy. 541 00:34:19,155.099 --> 00:34:31,705.099 Like, the thing is, is just like, you know, it must be very hard for him, right? Like he's talked about it and he was just like, it really hurts me because it's like, I want to do the thing that I want to do. 542 00:34:32,105.099 --> 00:34:37,885.099 I want to see what he can do when he can do that thing that he wants to do. 543 00:34:39,25.099 --> 00:34:41,555.099 He said he wanted one with a bittersweet storyline. 544 00:34:41,855.099 --> 00:34:44,65.099 I want to see what that makes. 545 00:34:44,395.099 --> 00:34:44,795.099 Yeah. 546 00:34:45,320.099 --> 00:34:46,540.099 Cause it's like, I can relate to that. 547 00:34:46,550.099 --> 00:34:51,120.099 Like, all of us probably can, right? You work all day so you can pay your bills at a job that you may not like. 548 00:34:51,400.099 --> 00:34:53,820.099 But you're like, alright, I'mma do this so I can pay my bills and everything like that. 549 00:34:53,820.099 --> 00:34:56,610.099 And then I'mma, I'mma go out and I'mma take a vacation. 550 00:34:56,610.099 --> 00:34:57,980.099 Or I'mma read a book. 551 00:34:57,980.099 --> 00:34:59,190.099 Or I'mma go out and have dinner. 552 00:34:59,190.099 --> 00:35:00,370.098 Or go out to the club or something like that. 553 00:35:00,370.098 --> 00:35:02,510.098 Like, you're gonna do the thing that makes you happy or that you enjoy. 554 00:35:02,910.099 --> 00:35:27,760.098 And then you're going to work when you work, but it's just like, I, I, I feel so bad for him because when you're creating something and you're an artist or you're a writer or you're, you're in the creative field, your passion is what fuels your ability to continue to create and working on something that you don't enjoy, that you don't like, under normal circumstances, it would kill your passion for it. 555 00:35:28,510.099 --> 00:35:33,760.099 And I don't know what drives him, because he literally said like this shit, I hate this. 556 00:35:33,760.099 --> 00:35:34,530.099 That's insane. 557 00:35:34,960.099 --> 00:35:35,520.099 It's insane. 558 00:35:35,690.099 --> 00:35:40,770.099 Dude has like, I don't know, I, I, I can't even come up with an excuse. 559 00:35:40,990.099 --> 00:35:42,970.098 Dude, he got the monkey's paw. 560 00:35:43,270.098 --> 00:35:45,70.098 He found it. 561 00:35:45,310.098 --> 00:35:46,539.998 He found it. 562 00:35:46,540.098 --> 00:35:48,470.1418572 It's got, it's got one finger down right now. 563 00:35:48,470.1418572 --> 00:35:49,890.0275714 It's sitting there like. 564 00:35:49,890.0275714 --> 00:35:50,244.999 Like. 565 00:35:51,575.099 --> 00:35:58,565.099 Like, that's the whole thing, it's just like, it's crazy, either he must really, really fucking like money, or he's just like, fuck it, I'm just gonna do it. 566 00:35:58,575.099 --> 00:36:14,905.099 And he has something else that fulfills him creatively, but, like, I've seen the sketches of the stuff that he wanted to do before Spy Family, like an adult Anya, and things like that, where he's just like, yeah, it's gonna be like this, and it's gonna be like, you know, this kind of story, and then he was just like, none of this shit worked, and all the people around him was like, no, you need to make a story like this, and he's like, fine. 567 00:36:15,210.099 --> 00:36:25,850.099 I can only imagine how mad he was, because when, when he had to like, give it to his editor, he had to keep changing the appearance to make them more like cute or cool or awesome. 568 00:36:26,230.099 --> 00:36:27,870.099 So we had to keep changing the appearances. 569 00:36:28,750.099 --> 00:36:37,520.099 I can only imagine how mad he would be when he submitted the one that they are now and the editor was like, yeah, this is perfect. 570 00:36:37,520.099 --> 00:36:39,180.099 This is exactly what we wanted. 571 00:36:39,450.099 --> 00:36:43,90.099 And then it got sent out and everybody in the public loved it. 572 00:36:43,730.099 --> 00:36:47,370.099 If I was him in that situation, I would be like, no way. 573 00:36:49,500.099 --> 00:36:54,510.099 I mean, it speaks to the editors, you know, abilities, you know, they're good editors. 574 00:36:54,510.099 --> 00:36:57,300.099 They know they're like, Hey, man, we think you can do this and make it successful. 575 00:36:57,530.098 --> 00:36:58,360.098 You got this. 576 00:36:58,800.099 --> 00:37:00,300.098 And it worked because again, like. 577 00:37:01,55.099 --> 00:37:01,415.099 Spy. 578 00:37:01,415.099 --> 00:37:06,35.099 I love the relationship between the found family of your Lloyd and Anya. 579 00:37:06,35.099 --> 00:37:07,205.099 Like they're amazing. 580 00:37:07,265.099 --> 00:37:08,855.099 Like I love the character so much. 581 00:37:08,855.099 --> 00:37:09,905.099 I enjoyed the anime. 582 00:37:09,905.099 --> 00:37:11,435.099 I was reading the manga and enjoying it. 583 00:37:11,815.099 --> 00:37:15,395.099 Like, it, it doesn't, I can't connect those dots. 584 00:37:15,395.099 --> 00:37:19,855.099 This is like, if you hate it so much and it's not what you wanted to write, but you so good at it. 585 00:37:19,855.099 --> 00:37:22,946.099 Like, is he just cursed again? I know I keep bringing up the Monkeys Paul thing, but like. 586 00:37:23,495.099 --> 00:37:31,325.099 Is he just like, why is he so good at writing the story that he hates to write? And a lot of times we're like, hey man, if you don't like it, just don't do it. 587 00:37:31,335.099 --> 00:37:33,355.099 Like, do, do the thing that drives your heart. 588 00:37:33,805.098 --> 00:37:49,355.099 No, I need you to keep going! But like, I, I would, I would much prefer you be able to give it to somebody that wants to put their heart into it, as opposed to like, you're just sinking like a black hole of depression into this, into this happy go lucky family and we don't even know about it. 589 00:37:49,385.098 --> 00:37:50,975.099 Like, if you don't look into the background. 590 00:37:51,655.099 --> 00:37:54,985.099 It, you'll never know if it doesn't feel like he hates it at all. 591 00:37:54,995.099 --> 00:37:58,535.099 It feels like a total disconnect from how he feels towards his own characters. 592 00:37:58,725.099 --> 00:38:05,415.098 I don't know if he hates the entire thing, but I know he doesn't like the characters or their origins. 593 00:38:05,745.099 --> 00:38:06,275.099 Yeah. 594 00:38:06,820.099 --> 00:38:15,830.099 So, I guess you might be okay with, like, Yor as an assassin, but he doesn't like Yor as a character, or Anya as a daughter, or Lloyd, or Spies. 595 00:38:16,330.099 --> 00:38:24,97.438 Yeah, and he's like, that's like, the majority is in the fucking title! He's like, I hate the Spy and the Family, but you know, you're cool. 596 00:38:24,97.438 --> 00:38:29,230.099 And then he keeps drawing more Bond, like the Fluffy Dog, he's just drawing more of the Fluffy Dog. 597 00:38:30,205.099 --> 00:38:31,705.099 Dude, it's so good, man. 598 00:38:31,705.099 --> 00:38:32,335.099 It's so good. 599 00:38:32,355.099 --> 00:38:33,995.099 Somebody must have some dirt on him. 600 00:38:34,245.099 --> 00:38:35,765.099 He must have some gambling debts. 601 00:38:35,785.099 --> 00:38:37,895.099 He's gotta have something. 602 00:38:38,565.099 --> 00:38:39,455.098 Cause it's crazy, dude. 603 00:38:39,465.099 --> 00:38:41,155.099 It's crazy. 604 00:38:42,395.099 --> 00:38:46,545.099 You know, I also, though, thinking about some of the other ones, I had to look up a couple. 605 00:38:46,955.099 --> 00:38:49,545.099 Gege did come up, you know, he doesn't like Gojo. 606 00:38:49,545.099 --> 00:38:53,425.099 His Gojo was just too powerful to exist in his own in his own series or whatever. 607 00:38:53,925.099 --> 00:38:56,565.099 And it's crazy because he's like strong like that. 608 00:38:57,325.099 --> 00:38:57,575.099 Yeah. 609 00:38:57,575.099 --> 00:38:59,295.099 I was like, You made him. 610 00:38:59,745.099 --> 00:39:00,175.099 Yeah. 611 00:39:00,465.099 --> 00:39:01,545.099 Made Gojo. 612 00:39:01,545.199 --> 00:39:02,24.999 And he's like, Oh, yeah. 613 00:39:02,65.099 --> 00:39:03,595.099 I hate this motherfucker. 614 00:39:03,845.099 --> 00:39:06,375.099 I'm going to make a beat the shit out of Miguel in this damn movie though. 615 00:39:06,375.099 --> 00:39:09,135.099 I was like, stop making him so damn cool. 616 00:39:09,135.099 --> 00:39:11,695.098 If you hate him so much, he's just like, I hate him. 617 00:39:11,825.099 --> 00:39:12,945.099 He's too pretty. 618 00:39:13,135.099 --> 00:39:13,715.099 I don't like that. 619 00:39:13,715.099 --> 00:39:14,785.099 His shoes are clean. 620 00:39:14,965.099 --> 00:39:15,875.098 I don't like his face. 621 00:39:15,925.098 --> 00:39:16,985.099 I don't like his clothes. 622 00:39:16,995.098 --> 00:39:18,205.099 I like you did that. 623 00:39:18,580.099 --> 00:39:23,540.099 You did like, why do you like go? Joe has to be based on somebody he knows ages. 624 00:39:23,570.099 --> 00:39:24,730.099 Like, I just really hate this guy. 625 00:39:24,760.099 --> 00:39:26,450.099 And I'm going to make this guy like the guy I hate. 626 00:39:26,710.099 --> 00:39:27,720.099 And everybody loves him. 627 00:39:27,760.099 --> 00:39:29,550.099 And he's like, no, I hate that guy. 628 00:39:29,560.099 --> 00:39:30,560.099 He's based off my school. 629 00:39:30,560.199 --> 00:39:35,980.098 You don't understand the hate and the disdain that I feel for this guy. 630 00:39:36,475.099 --> 00:39:38,975.099 I just said there was like, Ooh, he got cool powers. 631 00:39:38,975.099 --> 00:39:41,225.099 He makes the colors of shit, make it purple. 632 00:39:41,835.099 --> 00:39:44,245.099 You know what I mean? I'm just like, Gojo is fucking awesome. 633 00:39:44,505.099 --> 00:39:46,335.098 You think you are? A lot of characters is awesome. 634 00:39:47,365.099 --> 00:39:51,705.099 But it like when I heard that fact, I was just like, Oh, he fucking despises him. 635 00:39:51,885.099 --> 00:39:59,655.099 And you'll see like whenever a volume comes out, you have like a little like question to answer thing from the fans, how he shit talks Gojo so much. 636 00:39:59,985.099 --> 00:40:05,375.099 And I'm just like, Figures he's the one that everybody, like, fawns over. 637 00:40:06,5.099 --> 00:40:08,23.599 Yeah, he probably just adds to it. 638 00:40:08,23.599 --> 00:40:10,487.119 He's like, shit! So much shit. 639 00:40:10,487.119 --> 00:40:12,625.099 And I'm just like, you created him. 640 00:40:12,715.098 --> 00:40:14,365.099 Why would you be like, yeah, people like my character. 641 00:40:14,385.098 --> 00:40:15,905.099 He's like, I fucking hate this guy. 642 00:40:16,210.199 --> 00:40:17,460.099 So it's so funny. 643 00:40:17,530.099 --> 00:40:20,190.099 On top of that, so I'm Becky the Baker. 644 00:40:21,420.099 --> 00:40:24,920.099 How dare you ask what I like to bake? Exactly. 645 00:40:25,50.099 --> 00:40:29,620.099 This is so, dude, it's, it's crazy to me how you could hate your own creation like that. 646 00:40:29,640.098 --> 00:40:30,960.098 It is fucking hilarious. 647 00:40:31,460.098 --> 00:40:36,140.099 Funny, because it's like, I can kind of understand it, like, not liking the one aspect. 648 00:40:36,980.099 --> 00:40:39,980.099 If you, if you have to use it to drive your story forward, I get that. 649 00:40:39,980.099 --> 00:40:44,270.099 It makes that you could not like it and still be able to implement it. 650 00:40:44,935.099 --> 00:40:49,715.099 It is crazy that Gojo was the thing that was the driving force that he didn't like. 651 00:40:50,205.099 --> 00:40:56,855.099 But, like, it wasn't like Spy Family where it was like 90 percent of the show was something was against what he wanted. 652 00:40:57,395.098 --> 00:40:58,805.099 Yeah, it's just the one guy. 653 00:40:58,815.098 --> 00:40:59,875.099 It's just the one guy. 654 00:40:59,885.099 --> 00:41:00,875.098 It's just the one guy. 655 00:41:01,125.098 --> 00:41:04,855.099 He didn't even really need to draw Gojo like that either, but, or write Gojo like that, but. 656 00:41:06,145.099 --> 00:41:06,695.099 You did it. 657 00:41:07,295.099 --> 00:41:09,955.099 I guess he needed some kind of force. 658 00:41:09,965.099 --> 00:41:10,825.099 There it is. 659 00:41:11,255.099 --> 00:41:15,35.098 Because it's not a Toriyama thing, right? Because like Toriyama hate it. 660 00:41:15,85.099 --> 00:41:17,785.099 He didn't hate his work, but he hated his editors. 661 00:41:18,145.099 --> 00:41:20,35.098 So, yeah, I actually have that on my list. 662 00:41:20,45.098 --> 00:41:21,499.999 There was a Kira Toriyama. 663 00:41:21,940.099 --> 00:41:39,800.098 Hated on DBZ's editors or DBZ because his editors made him continue to, like they forced him to keep drawing it so that they could milk it and didn't he like try to leave and then there was like a live action that looks so bad that he came back so he made better stuff. 664 00:41:39,800.198 --> 00:41:44,20.099 So after, after Z finished, he was done. 665 00:41:44,140.099 --> 00:41:45,630.099 He had like pretty much retired. 666 00:41:45,640.099 --> 00:41:47,610.099 He just like doing little little things here and there. 667 00:41:47,620.099 --> 00:41:47,640.099 Yeah. 668 00:41:48,160.099 --> 00:41:51,640.099 And, you know, obviously Dragon Ball is owned by Toei and they were like, we're going to do whatever the fuck we want with it. 669 00:41:51,870.099 --> 00:41:53,850.099 So they were like, we want to make a Dragon Ball live action. 670 00:41:54,190.099 --> 00:41:59,540.099 And it was so fucking bad that Toriyama was like, hell no, that's not going to be the end of my legacy. 671 00:42:00,350.099 --> 00:42:01,630.099 I'm going to create super. 672 00:42:01,630.099 --> 00:42:03,340.098 And then that's when the movies came out. 673 00:42:03,370.098 --> 00:42:05,310.098 And in the super anime was playing me like this. 674 00:42:05,310.098 --> 00:42:06,400.098 This ain't how I go out. 675 00:42:06,400.098 --> 00:42:09,470.099 Y'all are not going to ruin my legacy with this garbage movie. 676 00:42:09,620.099 --> 00:42:10,680.099 And we talked about it earlier. 677 00:42:10,680.099 --> 00:42:11,760.099 I was playing Spark and Zero. 678 00:42:12,200.099 --> 00:42:13,70.099 That's how. 679 00:42:13,170.099 --> 00:42:15,990.098 So James Marsters, who was Spike in. 680 00:42:17,325.099 --> 00:42:18,725.099 Buffy the Vampire Slayer. 681 00:42:19,185.099 --> 00:42:22,255.099 He was Piccolo in that movie in a live action and that movie is garbage. 682 00:42:22,635.099 --> 00:42:26,505.099 He felt so bad and a lot of actors feel really bad because they love Dragon Ball as kids. 683 00:42:27,75.099 --> 00:42:30,55.099 I don't know if he did, but I know like the main actor to play Goku loved Dragon Ball. 684 00:42:30,55.099 --> 00:42:31,5.098 He's like, I feel so bad. 685 00:42:31,15.098 --> 00:42:32,535.099 So I apologize to Toriyama directly. 686 00:42:33,35.098 --> 00:42:34,895.099 James Marsters came back. 687 00:42:35,375.099 --> 00:42:40,885.099 Or he came into the anime, and he voices Zamasu, and he voices the character completely for free. 688 00:42:41,165.099 --> 00:42:49,595.099 He even used the stage name so nobody knew it was him, and he voiced the character for free? As an apology for the film, the live action film. 689 00:42:49,785.098 --> 00:42:54,465.099 Dang, yeah, I hadn't seen this film, I didn't know it was that bad. 690 00:42:54,915.098 --> 00:42:56,885.098 It is so bad, dude. 691 00:42:57,5.098 --> 00:42:58,915.099 I'm just gonna sing you the fucking meme of Goku. 692 00:42:59,70.099 --> 00:43:01,280.099 Sliding on his head over the top of the convertible. 693 00:43:01,280.099 --> 00:43:03,500.099 Both times you can see the quality of this film. 694 00:43:04,10.099 --> 00:43:04,910.099 It's so fucking funny. 695 00:43:04,910.099 --> 00:43:05,320.099 It's so bad. 696 00:43:05,320.099 --> 00:43:06,960.099 I've never actually watched it as a Dragon Ball fan. 697 00:43:06,960.099 --> 00:43:08,280.099 I told myself I would never watch that. 698 00:43:08,500.098 --> 00:43:11,80.099 And as an Avatar fan, I was like, I'm never gonna watch the fucking live action. 699 00:43:11,110.099 --> 00:43:14,250.098 M9 The movie that shall not be named. 700 00:43:14,250.098 --> 00:43:18,570.099 Do you think there was two of them? I was like, I'm never watching those shits. 701 00:43:18,610.099 --> 00:43:22,70.099 Cause I was just like, what the fuck? Maybe, maybe one day with, oh, that could be a podcast thing. 702 00:43:22,610.099 --> 00:43:23,660.099 We watch it. 703 00:43:23,960.099 --> 00:43:27,30.099 I guess I can watch it and I can just come and bitch for like 10 minutes about how bad it is. 704 00:43:27,970.099 --> 00:43:32,430.099 I'll watch the Dragon Ball one and then you watch the Avatar one and then we can come and bitch about it. 705 00:43:32,430.099 --> 00:43:33,269.999 Okay, that's fine. 706 00:43:33,270.099 --> 00:43:37,209.999 Shake on it, shake on it. 707 00:43:37,210.099 --> 00:43:44,750.099 But yeah, so so yeah, that was the whole thing with Toriyama, because there's like a lot of, like, things, and we'll go back to JJK, because I want to talk about a couple other things with Gege as well, because he's, he's interesting, he's interesting. 708 00:43:44,930.099 --> 00:43:46,650.099 Or he or she, they are interesting, because we don't know. 709 00:43:46,650.099 --> 00:43:48,340.099 He just wears a fucking Mechamaru head on. 710 00:43:48,340.099 --> 00:43:48,620.099 But anyway. 711 00:43:49,205.099 --> 00:43:59,57.7723333 One of the things that I found out about Toriyama is that he wanted Cell to always be First Form Cell, like, that was gonna be his whole thing, and I love First Form Cell and how creepy it was, that it's pretty much like the invasion of the body snatcher thing. 712 00:43:59,57.7723333 --> 00:44:00,845.099 Yeah, you didn't have to turn into, like, a hunk. 713 00:44:01,435.099 --> 00:44:02,465.099 There was no need for that. 714 00:44:03,435.098 --> 00:44:07,515.099 Yeah, cause then they were like, He needs to transform like he can't beat his weird bug man. 715 00:44:07,525.099 --> 00:44:08,335.099 He's like, Fuck. 716 00:44:08,525.099 --> 00:44:12,735.099 So you drew the ugly big lip version of the sale and they're like, No, motherfucker, draw him cool. 717 00:44:12,985.098 --> 00:44:14,45.098 And he may perform sale. 718 00:44:14,305.099 --> 00:44:19,151.1387 And I kind of OK, I understand both sides because I love first form sale and I love it. 719 00:44:19,151.1387 --> 00:44:21,515.099 Yeah, I'm going to suck all of you and drive and kill you. 720 00:44:21,515.099 --> 00:44:22,775.098 And I was like, Oh, this is crazy. 721 00:44:22,795.098 --> 00:44:23,405.099 It's all creepy. 722 00:44:23,775.099 --> 00:44:25,995.099 People were like, Yeah, I'm just trying to find the androids. 723 00:44:25,995.099 --> 00:44:29,345.099 And all you see is like clothes on the ground of all the people to sell suck. 724 00:44:29,395.099 --> 00:44:30,85.099 And it's like, Great. 725 00:44:30,420.099 --> 00:44:32,770.099 But at the same time, Perfect Cell is so good. 726 00:44:32,780.099 --> 00:44:36,250.099 Like he's such, I love Perfect Form Cell and everything with Gohan. 727 00:44:36,260.099 --> 00:44:40,760.098 Like, how will we get Super Saiyan 2 without Perfect Cell? Like, it's crazy. 728 00:44:40,760.099 --> 00:44:45,360.099 The weird, like, butterfly effect from the editors just being like, No, we want you to keep changing stuff. 729 00:44:45,360.099 --> 00:44:48,610.099 And him just be like, I'm going to change it, but I'm going to do it in a way that you guys don't like. 730 00:44:49,40.099 --> 00:44:51,330.099 And then, like, come back to me like, No, you need to change it again. 731 00:44:51,330.099 --> 00:44:53,880.099 And we got like my favorite arc in Dragon Ball with the Cell Saga. 732 00:44:54,310.099 --> 00:44:54,910.099 So it's just. 733 00:44:55,240.099 --> 00:45:00,970.099 It's weird, but like knowing that Toriyama was like dealing with all of that stuff and be like, I don't want to do this. 734 00:45:01,30.099 --> 00:45:08,970.099 I just want the manga to end and he tried to end it so many times and then he ended it and they made something so bad that he had to come out of retirement to make something even better. 735 00:45:09,320.099 --> 00:45:12,249.999 Oh, fine, fine. 736 00:45:12,250.099 --> 00:45:13,460.098 Like, it's crazy. 737 00:45:13,480.099 --> 00:45:15,80.099 I mean, we got a lot of amazing work. 738 00:45:15,140.099 --> 00:45:17,200.099 Rest in peace to the goat Akira Toriyama. 739 00:45:17,600.099 --> 00:45:20,90.099 But yeah, it's just like interesting to hear that kind of stuff. 740 00:45:20,90.099 --> 00:45:26,280.099 It's one of the reasons why I love documentaries or getting to see like behind the scenes, things like that, because it's better not get a movie that shall not be named too. 741 00:45:27,145.099 --> 00:45:29,855.099 Oh my God, no, for the love of this retirement. 742 00:45:30,815.099 --> 00:45:37,785.099 Although, you know what's a fucking hilarious thing? Is that James Marsters plays Zamasu and he's like, I'm playing it for free, I will not charge you anything. 743 00:45:37,835.099 --> 00:45:40,285.099 And he's, you know, like a known TV actor from the past. 744 00:45:40,785.099 --> 00:45:41,895.099 They make him talk so much. 745 00:45:42,230.099 --> 00:45:48,950.099 Zamasu literally talks in paragraphs and I'm like, they were like, yo, if we're not paying you, we're going to make you say everything in the dictionary. 746 00:45:48,960.099 --> 00:45:49,710.099 It was just crazy. 747 00:45:50,280.099 --> 00:45:52,0.098 We are making this one. 748 00:45:52,0.198 --> 00:45:55,600.099 A chance like this will never happen again. 749 00:45:56,350.099 --> 00:45:57,90.0985 Exactly. 750 00:45:57,90.0985 --> 00:46:05,470.099 Cause like, if in the games where you play Zamasu, he'll be like, and the world is, you know, the extinction of the mortal plan will go into order and you will not disrespect the God. 751 00:46:05,630.099 --> 00:46:07,140.099 It's like literally a Bible verse. 752 00:46:08,280.099 --> 00:46:12,875.099 Aren't voice actors paid by like per word? Probably, I don't know. 753 00:46:12,875.099 --> 00:46:13,825.099 I guess it depends. 754 00:46:14,85.099 --> 00:46:18,625.099 I think it's like by an hourly rate, but I think some are paid per word. 755 00:46:18,955.099 --> 00:46:19,685.099 Probably. 756 00:46:19,685.099 --> 00:46:21,615.099 And they were like, We're going to get everything out of you, boy. 757 00:46:22,105.099 --> 00:46:23,425.099 You shouldn't play piccolo. 758 00:46:24,715.099 --> 00:46:26,295.099 But no, I thought that was really cool, man. 759 00:46:26,325.099 --> 00:46:27,285.098 I thought it was really sick. 760 00:46:27,295.098 --> 00:46:30,875.099 It seemed like he had fun because the thing is, he did not phone it in. 761 00:46:31,365.099 --> 00:46:33,985.099 Zamasu is amazing in English. 762 00:46:34,265.099 --> 00:46:36,75.099 He's like one of the better voices. 763 00:46:36,155.099 --> 00:46:37,955.098 Oh, my God, he's so good. 764 00:46:38,435.099 --> 00:46:41,365.099 So he came in, I don't know if he did any dubbing before that. 765 00:46:41,545.099 --> 00:46:43,65.099 He came in and he killed it. 766 00:46:43,145.099 --> 00:46:44,865.099 Tommaso is amazing. 767 00:46:45,5.099 --> 00:46:50,285.099 He did all that for free as a as a apology to Akira Toriyama, which is really, really cool, really cool story. 768 00:46:50,625.098 --> 00:46:55,825.099 So hourly rates for voice actors typically can range from 50 to 200 per hour. 769 00:46:55,835.099 --> 00:46:59,815.099 However, some voice actors with a lot of experience may charge more than 200 per hour. 770 00:47:00,100.099 --> 00:47:03,430.099 Going between five cents to 20 cents per word. 771 00:47:04,130.099 --> 00:47:04,990.099 Oh, my God. 772 00:47:06,780.099 --> 00:47:13,900.099 I tried to become a voice actor for a while with with my voice and then the voice like the coaches I had, he was like, Hey, I know you want to do anime and stuff. 773 00:47:14,220.099 --> 00:47:15,320.099 It does not pay well. 774 00:47:15,460.099 --> 00:47:17,360.099 I'm going to learn you how to do commercial work. 775 00:47:17,600.099 --> 00:47:18,790.099 And things like that first. 776 00:47:18,820.099 --> 00:47:19,850.099 So you have some fall back on. 777 00:47:19,850.099 --> 00:47:24,800.099 I was like, Oh, and then like whenever I went to a convention, you listen to you know, like anime dubbing, you know, voice actors and everything like that. 778 00:47:24,800.099 --> 00:47:26,60.099 Talk about they're like, yeah, it's no money in that. 779 00:47:26,60.099 --> 00:47:28,820.099 We do video games and stuff like that for money or commercial work for money. 780 00:47:28,820.099 --> 00:47:31,100.098 And then, you know, you animate for passion. 781 00:47:31,220.099 --> 00:47:32,650.0985 And I was like, right, right, right. 782 00:47:32,650.0985 --> 00:47:33,360.098 That makes sense. 783 00:47:33,620.099 --> 00:47:34,420.098 But I need to pay bills. 784 00:47:36,120.099 --> 00:47:36,730.099 But anyway, all right. 785 00:47:36,750.099 --> 00:47:39,590.099 To go back to JJK, because I do want to talk about JJK, because I love JJK. 786 00:47:40,440.099 --> 00:47:46,430.099 Outside of Gojo, there are a little like fun tidbits with Gege just as a mangaka, which kind of on top of a kind of not. 787 00:47:46,750.099 --> 00:47:47,440.099 That he dislikes. 788 00:47:47,450.099 --> 00:47:49,200.099 Apparently, Gege doesn't like drawing women. 789 00:47:49,210.099 --> 00:47:50,730.099 He says that he's bad at it. 790 00:47:51,540.099 --> 00:47:52,600.099 Like, he doesn't know how to draw. 791 00:47:52,600.199 --> 00:47:54,110.099 He's got, he's got Nobara in there. 792 00:47:55,10.099 --> 00:47:56,440.098 Nobara and Maki. 793 00:47:56,670.099 --> 00:47:57,350.099 Both sides of Maki. 794 00:47:57,350.099 --> 00:47:58,130.099 Kinda crazy. 795 00:47:59,220.099 --> 00:47:59,580.099 Like, if. 796 00:48:00,745.099 --> 00:48:03,855.099 Like, maybe it's because they're too close, but I'm just like, no bar is cool as hell. 797 00:48:03,855.099 --> 00:48:05,245.099 Showco, cool as hell. 798 00:48:05,275.099 --> 00:48:07,705.099 Maymay cool with asterisks. 799 00:48:07,705.199 --> 00:48:09,325.199 Miwa looks amazing. 800 00:48:09,325.199 --> 00:48:11,775.199 Like, I think he draws women like cool as hell. 801 00:48:11,785.199 --> 00:48:12,965.199 Broom girl. 802 00:48:13,345.198 --> 00:48:14,596.6981429 I won't remember her name because she worked with us. 803 00:48:14,596.6981429 --> 00:48:21,705.199 I think he might be, when he is talking about not drawing women well, he's probably thinking like he's not drawing it along the, the social standard. 804 00:48:22,385.199 --> 00:48:24,530.199 And it's like, Good. 805 00:48:25,440.199 --> 00:48:25,760.199 Yeah. 806 00:48:26,370.199 --> 00:48:28,360.199 We want some spice in our lives, man. 807 00:48:28,360.299 --> 00:48:28,831.5561429 Mix it up a little bit. 808 00:48:28,831.5561429 --> 00:48:31,10.199 I think all these lady characters look cool as hell. 809 00:48:32,600.199 --> 00:48:34,250.199 Like they look awesome to me, man. 810 00:48:34,400.199 --> 00:48:41,90.199 I like all, like, I don't think there's any of them that I'm like even, even Broom Girl is like, she's probably the worst one and she's fine. 811 00:48:41,740.199 --> 00:48:42,160.199 Yeah. 812 00:48:42,750.199 --> 00:48:48,980.199 Like, who, like, who would be like the worst one? I think Miwa is like the worst written. 813 00:48:49,845.199 --> 00:48:53,245.199 Oh, yeah, she's the worst written, she's literally there to fail like this. 814 00:48:53,255.199 --> 00:48:54,255.199 She let me think. 815 00:48:54,515.199 --> 00:48:58,805.199 So if you guys are talking about women in anime, they can't do anything. 816 00:48:58,945.199 --> 00:49:00,675.199 Meanwhile, calls herself useless. 817 00:49:01,295.199 --> 00:49:01,595.199 Yeah. 818 00:49:01,595.199 --> 00:49:07,220.199 Her name, her name is literally useless mi And she is, she is, she's the most correct character. 819 00:49:07,220.199 --> 00:49:07,300.199 Hey. 820 00:49:07,300.199 --> 00:49:10,265.199 She almost did something once and then she almost died for it. 821 00:49:10,835.199 --> 00:49:16,551.199 She almost did something once that literally made her useless 'cause it was a fucking bind vow. 822 00:49:16,551.199 --> 00:49:16,605.199 Oh yeah. 823 00:49:16,605.199 --> 00:49:22,425.199 She, because she had to go through the, the vow and then, and then the vow like stripped her of her powers or whatever. 824 00:49:22,425.199 --> 00:49:25,365.199 So she is on top of being useless before now. 825 00:49:25,365.199 --> 00:49:27,585.199 She is like super useless. 826 00:49:27,615.199 --> 00:49:29,895.199 She's literally just a fucking pedestrian now. 827 00:49:31,205.199 --> 00:49:35,855.199 So I think that that's funny that gay gay like doesn't like his women character or their designs. 828 00:49:35,925.199 --> 00:49:37,405.199 I think they look cool as hell. 829 00:49:37,665.199 --> 00:49:42,35.199 I guess the only other fun little tip back from gay gay that I learned is that he's partially colorblind. 830 00:49:42,885.198 --> 00:49:46,385.199 So that's why you'll see like a certain covers of the volumes of the manga characters. 831 00:49:46,755.199 --> 00:49:48,275.199 Like colors will change. 832 00:49:48,455.199 --> 00:49:51,375.199 Gojo's eyes will change from like green to blue sometimes. 833 00:49:51,885.199 --> 00:49:53,735.199 Because you can't really tell for cosplayers. 834 00:49:54,425.199 --> 00:49:58,65.199 Yeah, that's the funny thing to happen, because one of the characters. 835 00:49:58,925.199 --> 00:50:02,445.198 What's her name? The it's not really a spoiler character. 836 00:50:03,95.198 --> 00:50:04,55.199 But I'll try to think. 837 00:50:04,825.198 --> 00:50:10,185.199 Is it the ice chick? No, she has like purple eyes, right? Yeah, it's not Urame. 838 00:50:10,185.199 --> 00:50:14,525.199 It's the hair color of the chick that's with Dan's boy was named Hikari. 839 00:50:16,535.199 --> 00:50:17,385.199 I don't remember her name, either. 840 00:50:17,825.199 --> 00:50:21,655.199 I forget her name, but a lot of cosplayers love her because she looks really cool. 841 00:50:21,705.198 --> 00:50:23,55.199 And her character design is awesome. 842 00:50:23,105.199 --> 00:50:27,925.198 And then in the final, like, chapters promo page. 843 00:50:28,345.199 --> 00:50:31,285.199 They changed the color of her eyes, I think, and her hair. 844 00:50:31,395.199 --> 00:50:32,975.199 Her hair, yeah, her hair and eyes. 845 00:50:32,985.199 --> 00:50:35,95.199 So everybody who cosplayed, it was pink. 846 00:50:35,415.199 --> 00:50:37,925.198 So they would always do like the little stripe of dye in their hair, pink. 847 00:50:38,35.198 --> 00:50:39,935.199 And their eyes were pink as well, like violet. 848 00:50:40,335.199 --> 00:50:42,755.199 And then the last value came out and they're both green. 849 00:50:43,245.199 --> 00:50:47,210.1985 And everybody was just like, I just spent 200 making this cosplay. 850 00:50:47,210.1985 --> 00:50:50,15.199 And I was like, it don't have to be accurate, guys. 851 00:50:50,25.199 --> 00:50:52,485.199 So they were just like, no, it ruined everything. 852 00:50:52,485.299 --> 00:50:54,540.6262727 No, it has to be more accurate. 853 00:50:54,540.6262727 --> 00:50:56,935.198 You just start mixing the colors together. 854 00:50:59,95.199 --> 00:51:00,675.199 Well, yeah, so I thought that was really funny. 855 00:51:00,675.199 --> 00:51:04,575.199 But yeah, apparently that's that's not really like a part of the topic, but it is a little fun little tidbit. 856 00:51:04,595.199 --> 00:51:17,745.199 But to kind of like go along with the topic, because again, me and Vicks both pick the same thing simultaneously, because I mean, that was a big talking point in the anime community was just like these two mangaka that dislike portions or the majority of their work, which is crazy. 857 00:51:17,745.199 --> 00:51:26,555.199 But in one respect, and I'm sure I talked about this previously in another podcast, is that being a mangaka is a very, very difficult job. 858 00:51:26,630.299 --> 00:51:38,830.199 And I think that's kind of like, understated, I mean, being in the animation industry in general, like, from both sides, being a mangaka and writing the story and also doing the illustrations for it as well. 859 00:51:39,170.199 --> 00:51:54,560.199 They may have some, you know, staff that helps out, like, assistance and things like that that would do the ink in, do the lettering for them, you know, if they're big enough and can afford that or the studio provides it or whatever, but like, doing that week after week after week, like, literally, we're, I mean, I'm sure they have some, like, lead up. 860 00:51:54,880.199 --> 00:51:58,850.199 But like, see Dandanon, Dandanon is, the manga looks incredible. 861 00:51:59,640.199 --> 00:52:03,30.199 What the thing that sold me on Dandanon was the kaiju standoff. 862 00:52:03,820.199 --> 00:52:08,200.199 I was like, how do we get Dude, I was, the, out of context, that was so random. 863 00:52:08,200.199 --> 00:52:22,800.199 I was like, what is, what is this? But like, even in context, you're like, okay, I got, I know how they got there, but like, what is this? That's Dandanon, but the art is so amazing. 864 00:52:23,350.199 --> 00:52:25,410.199 And I'm just like, they're doing this. 865 00:52:25,775.199 --> 00:52:28,635.199 Every single week forever. 866 00:52:29,445.199 --> 00:52:34,265.199 I feel like only really now they've been having manga could take breaks for like Oda takes breaks. 867 00:52:34,445.199 --> 00:52:36,215.1985 Gege would have like a week or two break. 868 00:52:36,215.1985 --> 00:52:37,575.198 They would have vacation time. 869 00:52:37,585.198 --> 00:52:39,615.199 Manga has just like started dying off. 870 00:52:40,245.199 --> 00:52:43,55.198 They were like, they're like, Oh, maybe this isn't a good thing. 871 00:52:44,305.199 --> 00:52:47,175.199 Yeah, because literally the Berserk manga, I think he's 62. 872 00:52:47,855.199 --> 00:52:49,715.199 Muriel was like in his early 60s. 873 00:52:49,955.199 --> 00:52:52,45.199 It didn't, you know, he died from stress. 874 00:52:52,315.199 --> 00:52:55,405.199 Toriyama, I'm not sure what happened with him, but he had illness, he died from aneurysm. 875 00:52:56,585.199 --> 00:53:01,735.198 You know, like, I know Kubo was like, sick during almost the entirety of Bleach. 876 00:53:02,835.198 --> 00:53:13,440.199 So, like, and he just kept working, he just kept, it's amazing that he's not dead yet! It's amazing! Like, they worked their selves to the bones to, to, to make this. 877 00:53:13,450.199 --> 00:53:15,630.199 To make their passions come to life. 878 00:53:15,860.199 --> 00:53:20,900.1822105 How do you do it, dude who makes Spy Family? What is your name? I was about to say the same thing. 879 00:53:20,900.1822105 --> 00:53:23,430.199 Cause he's killing himself with something that he fucking despises. 880 00:53:24,420.198 --> 00:53:29,780.199 But that's my whole thing, it's just like, you know, that's why I try my best to support the official release. 881 00:53:29,810.199 --> 00:53:32,440.199 Because it's just like, there's people who are making things that I fucking love. 882 00:53:33,190.199 --> 00:53:34,40.199 And I'm very passionate about. 883 00:53:34,735.199 --> 00:53:35,145.199 Mr. 884 00:53:35,145.199 --> 00:53:45,85.199 Endo, how do you do it? Well, how do you, how do you kill yourself week by week on something that you don't want to see? How do you do it? That man has the drive of a machine. 885 00:53:45,95.199 --> 00:53:48,45.199 He was a, he was a Sherlin monk when he was growing up. 886 00:53:48,45.199 --> 00:53:50,55.199 So he's got discipline out the wazoo. 887 00:53:50,995.199 --> 00:53:55,915.199 Apparently, but yeah, man, like there's so many mangakas and so many, like, horror stories. 888 00:53:56,145.199 --> 00:54:04,945.199 Cause like, even you got Togashi from Yu Yu Hakusho Yu Yu Hakusho and, you know, Hunter x Hunter fame, who destroyed his body. 889 00:54:04,945.199 --> 00:54:13,255.199 I mean, I don't know if it's really a part of the manga, cause I mean, have you seen the photos of that man's room? He was also living in fucking filth, but you know, he got incredibly sick. 890 00:54:13,465.199 --> 00:54:20,735.199 You know, to the point where he had to go on the insane hiatus and hunter hunter is finally back like this 20 chapter, like, I don't even think back. 891 00:54:20,735.199 --> 00:54:24,875.199 I think there he's doing that thing where he's like, Hey, don't forget about me just yet. 892 00:54:25,225.199 --> 00:54:26,415.198 I'm still sick. 893 00:54:27,935.199 --> 00:54:30,185.198 I drew something in my better days. 894 00:54:30,325.199 --> 00:54:30,945.199 Try this. 895 00:54:31,635.199 --> 00:54:32,45.199 Yeah. 896 00:54:32,395.199 --> 00:54:33,615.199 I mean, that's pretty much what it is. 897 00:54:33,635.199 --> 00:54:38,565.099 Like, as soon as they'll get released, going right back on hiatus. 898 00:54:38,955.199 --> 00:54:46,65.199 A hundred percent because it's like he's like when I heard about like how bad his back is and his health is where he's like, yeah, I can't shit on toilets. 899 00:54:46,325.199 --> 00:54:53,155.198 I shit in the tub and I was like, what? What? Yeah, he has to lay down and take shits because he can't sit on the toilet. 900 00:54:53,375.198 --> 00:54:56,195.199 I'm not sure if that's an all the time thing, but that came out in an interview. 901 00:54:56,815.199 --> 00:54:58,495.198 There's no way that's true. 902 00:54:59,605.198 --> 00:55:00,415.199 That's what he said. 903 00:55:00,965.199 --> 00:55:02,465.199 There's no way. 904 00:55:04,445.199 --> 00:55:07,845.199 So it's just, you know, people, they're killing themselves for this man. 905 00:55:08,240.199 --> 00:55:16,340.199 And so it's crazy when and I'm sure it's probably more common than we would know that there will be some creators who would hate the thing that they're creating. 906 00:55:16,360.199 --> 00:55:19,860.198 And I know sometimes like the passion kind of dies when it becomes a commercial success. 907 00:55:20,20.199 --> 00:55:21,600.198 And like, I have to keep the fans happy. 908 00:55:21,600.199 --> 00:55:28,910.199 I mean, you hear not just in manga, but in literature, because author Conan Doyle was like done with Sherlock Holmes. 909 00:55:29,220.199 --> 00:55:35,120.199 He was going to kill Sherlock and his fucking editor staff was just like, What the fuck are you going to do? And the fans were voting. 910 00:55:35,120.199 --> 00:55:36,550.198 He's like, Oh, I guess I got to keep him alive. 911 00:55:37,495.199 --> 00:55:39,895.199 Yeah, so they were just like, oh, Sherlock didn't really die. 912 00:55:40,85.199 --> 00:55:41,635.199 He ate a sensu bean and came back to life. 913 00:55:41,985.199 --> 00:55:46,25.198 And it's just like, you know what I mean? They got the dragon balls and he gonna solve more mysteries. 914 00:55:46,35.199 --> 00:55:48,405.199 So it's just like, you are kind of beholden to your audience. 915 00:55:48,845.198 --> 00:55:51,235.198 And it can be, it can be rough. 916 00:55:51,945.199 --> 00:55:53,875.199 But It's a part of the game, man. 917 00:55:53,875.199 --> 00:55:56,465.199 So I love spy family. 918 00:55:56,465.199 --> 00:55:58,185.199 I think spy family is incredible. 919 00:55:58,235.199 --> 00:55:59,825.199 I enjoy it so much. 920 00:56:00,175.198 --> 00:56:02,155.199 It does suck knowing that the Arthur doesn't like it. 921 00:56:03,815.199 --> 00:56:04,495.199 I'm still gonna watch it. 922 00:56:07,585.199 --> 00:56:09,465.199 You shouldn't make me love this family, you idiot. 923 00:56:09,465.299 --> 00:56:12,225.198 You did this to yourself. 924 00:56:14,105.198 --> 00:56:18,655.199 But yeah, man, but I haven't actually heard of too many people that like didn't like their own. 925 00:56:19,155.199 --> 00:56:26,738.499 Artwork or mangas or whatever, until like recently, it's like, it was the spy family thing that made me look good. 926 00:56:26,738.499 --> 00:56:29,70.099 Was that? Yeah, it's normally like the working conditions. 927 00:56:29,790.199 --> 00:56:31,370.199 Like, oh, I'm burning myself out. 928 00:56:31,610.199 --> 00:56:34,580.199 I hear about the work, working conditions, sucking all the time. 929 00:56:34,970.199 --> 00:56:39,480.199 You never, like, I never heard about them not liking their own work before. 930 00:56:39,820.199 --> 00:56:48,290.199 And then spy family came out and I saw it on an article and I was like, That's crazy to not like the thing that you like. 931 00:56:48,370.199 --> 00:56:51,120.199 I know artists are always like, No, my own art sucks. 932 00:56:51,120.199 --> 00:56:51,870.199 I hate my art. 933 00:56:52,360.199 --> 00:56:56,340.199 I feel like what he's been saying is not on the same level. 934 00:56:56,690.199 --> 00:57:00,920.198 Like, he actually hates this stuff that he is making. 935 00:57:01,180.198 --> 00:57:02,730.1985 It's not like, Oh, stop. 936 00:57:02,730.1985 --> 00:57:03,660.199 It's not good. 937 00:57:03,880.199 --> 00:57:05,900.199 Now he's like, Man, fuck that bitch. 938 00:57:07,150.199 --> 00:57:09,430.199 Yeah, he's like, This shit is garbage. 939 00:57:10,770.199 --> 00:57:11,690.199 And that's crazy. 940 00:57:11,690.199 --> 00:57:12,940.199 I never heard that before. 941 00:57:12,960.198 --> 00:57:13,570.198 And. 942 00:57:14,120.199 --> 00:57:16,900.199 I was like, I was trying to look up other ones and there's not very many. 943 00:57:17,260.199 --> 00:57:29,40.199 There's just like instances where somebody likes, like, not likes one specific thing or somebody did something to their, to theirs, like the Gege and Gojo or Akira Toriyama and the continuation of Z. 944 00:57:31,115.199 --> 00:57:35,985.199 He's the only one that I could find that was straight up like nah, I make stuff. 945 00:57:36,295.199 --> 00:57:43,265.199 That's good, and I hate it Yeah, it's a crazy phenomenon because it's so good dude. 946 00:57:43,655.199 --> 00:57:44,105.199 It's so good. 947 00:57:44,105.199 --> 00:58:04,175.198 I'll eat that I mean, there's only so many fingers on that monkey paw like you can only use one I just like All jokes aside, I legitimately hope that Spy Family does well enough for him to be able to do whatever he wants, like, after that, like, he when he, when he manages to finish the Spy Family, I really want to see what he had planned for his bittersweet storyline. 948 00:58:04,825.199 --> 00:58:17,845.199 That sounds like whatever he can come up with is going to be the opposite side of the coin for, for Spy Family, because it's like, they took a bunch of dark jobs, and then they made them, like, goofy. 949 00:58:18,395.199 --> 00:58:24,195.199 And now I want to see what he can do when he takes the, like, maybe he's going to take a goofy job and make it like really dark. 950 00:58:24,705.199 --> 00:58:26,535.199 That Sakamoto days, that shit. 951 00:58:26,985.199 --> 00:58:29,75.198 Sakamoto days, yeah, well, in reverse. 952 00:58:29,615.199 --> 00:58:30,285.1985 Yeah, kind of. 953 00:58:30,285.1985 --> 00:58:34,475.2 Isn't Sakamoto days like kind of goofy? He's a convenience store owner, but he wasn't a sassy, so it doesn't technically fit. 954 00:58:34,485.198 --> 00:58:34,995.199 But anyway. 955 00:58:35,215.2 --> 00:58:37,365.198 It's going to be like just the assassin storyline. 956 00:58:37,365.199 --> 00:58:38,545.199 They're going to go down that route. 957 00:58:39,35.199 --> 00:58:40,195.199 I mean, it'd be cool, man. 958 00:58:40,195.199 --> 00:58:42,175.199 I think I would I would enjoy whatever he worked on. 959 00:58:42,645.2615 --> 00:58:50,125.2615 I feel like, I feel like at this point, when he's made it something that's like so popular, I almost feel like we owe it to him to just like read the next one. 960 00:58:50,435.2615 --> 00:58:51,315.2615 At least give it a shot. 961 00:58:51,315.3615 --> 00:58:55,325.2615 Like, like he's doing all this detriment to his own mental health. 962 00:58:55,325.2615 --> 00:58:58,295.2605 And he's just like, Hey, I'm going to make this other thing. 963 00:58:58,695.2615 --> 00:58:59,615.2615 You should check it out. 964 00:58:59,625.2615 --> 00:59:01,305.2615 And we're like, I liked the last thing. 965 00:59:01,305.2615 --> 00:59:01,785.2615 So. 966 00:59:02,355.2615 --> 00:59:02,865.2615 All right. 967 00:59:03,75.2615 --> 00:59:03,755.2615 I'll give it a shot. 968 00:59:03,755.2615 --> 00:59:05,345.2615 It doesn't sound like my cup of tea, but. 969 00:59:05,905.2615 --> 00:59:07,465.2615 I know it's going to be the worst thing ever, man. 970 00:59:07,465.2615 --> 00:59:08,335.2615 I know what you did for this. 971 00:59:08,435.2615 --> 00:59:10,655.2615 Yeah, and it ends up being like terrible and awful. 972 00:59:10,935.2615 --> 00:59:14,575.2605 And it's like, this is why it wasn't that it wasn't cool enough before. 973 00:59:14,575.2615 --> 00:59:18,315.2605 It was like what you were originally planning was just like complete garbage. 974 00:59:20,215.2615 --> 00:59:20,885.2615 I hope not. 975 00:59:20,885.2615 --> 00:59:21,425.2615 I hope not. 976 00:59:21,435.2615 --> 00:59:23,35.2605 It's just the monkey paw, man. 977 00:59:23,35.2615 --> 00:59:24,55.2605 It's the monkey paw way. 978 00:59:24,895.2615 --> 00:59:28,514.5081667 It's going to be the curse of the monkey party, just like, whatever he reads, it's going to fail. 979 00:59:28,514.5081667 --> 00:59:32,645.2615 Cause it's like, I'm rich now, I'm done, you know, I can finally do the thing that I want to do. 980 00:59:32,695.2615 --> 00:59:40,600.2615 It's just like garbage, and like it sells like one volume, and then he's just like, what am I? But I guess, I guess we'll see. 981 00:59:40,600.2615 --> 00:59:47,580.2615 But yeah, if you guys have any stories about any, cause that was the one thing that I saw when I was looking up about this topic, it was just like a bunch of rumors. 982 00:59:47,580.2615 --> 00:59:48,810.2615 I was like, I don't want to talk about this stuff. 983 00:59:48,810.2615 --> 00:59:51,110.2605 Cause it's like, it's unbased shenanigans online. 984 00:59:51,110.2615 --> 01:00:05,570.2615 But if you guys have any credible information about any mangakas that, that didn't like their work, or just want to talk about some of some mangas that you guys are enjoying, or just want to chat with us about any of the current season of anime that you're watching, let us know in the comments below. 985 01:00:06,95.2615 --> 01:00:07,405.2615 Join the discussion. 986 01:00:07,625.2615 --> 01:00:09,5.2615 Vix and I are both streamers. 987 01:00:09,55.2615 --> 01:00:11,5.2615 We're doing this podcast live on twitch. 988 01:00:11,205.2615 --> 01:00:17,265.2615 tv, but our both usernames was to be down in the description down below because I have discord communities, which will also be in the description. 989 01:00:18,205.2615 --> 01:00:21,185.2615 I really and truly love talking about this stuff every single week with VIX. 990 01:00:21,405.2615 --> 01:00:22,445.2615 We are back, baby. 991 01:00:22,445.2615 --> 01:00:23,515.2615 The little hiatus is done. 992 01:00:23,525.2615 --> 01:00:24,505.2615 We took a hiatus. 993 01:00:24,655.2615 --> 01:00:28,715.1605 I survived the hurricane and I have come back with a vengeance. 994 01:00:28,715.2605 --> 01:00:34,445.2605 The hurricane was beating his ass, but he came back with his Zenkai boost and we are back and better than ever. 995 01:00:34,725.2615 --> 01:00:36,905.2615 So I hope you guys are excited for the podcast. 996 01:00:36,925.2615 --> 01:00:40,215.2615 We will see you guys next week with the 29th episode of the pod. 997 01:00:40,445.2615 --> 01:00:48,205.2605 And I hope you guys are ready for some more comic, this comic, manga, anime discussion, whatever I'm trying to say. 998 01:00:48,395.2605 --> 01:00:49,425.2615 I have been beautiful growth. 999 01:00:49,445.2605 --> 01:00:50,215.2615 That is big seal. 1000 01:00:50,215.2615 --> 01:00:51,535.2605 And we'll catch you guys next week. 1001 01:00:52,455.2605 --> 01:00:52,845.2605 Everybody.