March 9, 2026 • 12 mins
Featured Artist: Kaytranada
Featured Vinyl: Timeless
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Do 2 Me
Sam’s Hot Pick
Weird
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(00:09):
Welcome to B Side, the mini series.
From through the Creative Door, join Alexis and Sam as they dive into the timeless world of vinyl.
For Alexis, vinyl was more than music.
It was a Sunday ritual she shared with her dad, listening, talking, and soaking in the stories behind each album and the artwork on every sleeve.
(00:30):
Though her dad is no longer with us, she continues this tradition with her friend Sam Timmerman.
Join them as they share their passion for vinyl and the stories is records.
Hold.
Hello brother.
It's a good morning.
It is morning.
Yes it is.
I believe it's morning for you two.
(00:51):
Now I am very keen to share this one.
You brought this album to our attention.
I did tell the listeners what you've got for us.
This is story time, so are you ready to hear a story?
I'm ready.
It's not as interesting as it might seem, but about 10 or 15 years ago, I'm gonna say, I was working with an amazing visual artist called Sid Paty at the time.
(01:18):
He was a still is.
He was a brilliant musician, incredible producer, and he created an EP that was designed around the style of Jade Dilla.
And I fell in love with it.
And then through that I came across other artists such as Anderson P, who I've loved for a long time, and Sid style.
(01:43):
And then another musician friend of mine by the name of Ben Steele, who everyone needs to get onto as well, showed me Kate.
And that's the story part of it, because.
Came into my ears and I went, okay, this is what feel good kind of body feel production is supposed to sound like, and didn't delve too much into the back huddle or anything like that.
(02:11):
Didn't do heaps of research.
But then about a month ago, I saw that there was a double LP that he released in 2024 that I had not heard.
That's what we have here.
And I'll be honest, I was blown away with this record.
I was saying to you off Mark, that I believe this is gonna be on my rotation for a long time to come.
(02:35):
It is a stellar vinyl absolute.
It's interesting that you talk about the production.
It definitely, yes.
It's a very beats very DJ kind of record.
If I would be so bold to say, I think that the engineering and how it's been produced and put together, it is such a groove all the way through the vinyl.
(03:00):
Oh, totally.
And I really feel like it's like elite level.
Do you know what I mean?
Like Oh yeah.
Pro primary engineer, Lauren Delio.
Oh.
Who, I don't know how much she did reading on her, but she's been.
Everywhere.
Even just past five years, she's done everything from Mary j Blige to a lip at Demmon Lovato up to the Trolls World Tour album.
(03:22):
Mm-hmm.
Much picture soundtrack, which is incredible.
Then came in onto a couple of K art records and Anderson pack or heaps of stuff that is just groove based and feels good.
And you know how much I lean into music over lyrics.
This is my jam, this is r and b, hip hop, and just a little bit of.
Disco sprinkle, and it's just, it's good.
(03:44):
Also, what a stellar lineup of colabs and feet.
It's not until you start to listen and go, oh, who's that?
Oh my God.
Who's that?
Oh my goodness.
The list is good.
Yeah, charter.
Charter.
Gambino's on there.
Thundercats on there.
Anderson P'S on there.
There's plenty of people that are stellar, and I believe that some of them have even appeared twice.
(04:09):
I think Rochelle Jordan's twice on the record.
Yeah, definitely.
I feel like the best way to describe this is it's not following trends, it just is.
Yeah, just this record feels very timeless.
Ha ha.
Which is probably from some of the things that I've read in my little rabbit hole, is like, why the title is timeless.
(04:35):
That's that.
And that seems to be the commentary was, at least in the critic side, people seem to enjoy the fact that it went back to the kind of original star that Celeste was using.
That kind of really gated drums combined with a bit more of the ambient samples.
Mm-hmm.
I really like the fact that the, the bottom end is just a little bit eqd up, so it's not super sub heavy.
(05:00):
Like you can listen to this on a tiny little speaker and it'll still make you feel the bottom end, which is unique.
I spent a bit of time.
Looking through the lyrics.
I have a way too long's worth of training on the ear to listen to music.
So lyrics tend to brush over the head sometimes, so I go and read them and there's a lot of pained themes across the record.
(05:27):
Yeah.
So then when weird comes along and it's just going, dude, just chill.
It doesn't feel great to talk about.
But at the same time, when someone.
Someone is imposing on the good feeling of an entire group and doesn't realize it.
Yeah.
And someone voices that in a tune.
I'm just like, oh, but that worked.
(05:48):
But the groove on this thing's awesome.
And there's little bit of almost DeAngelo backing vocals.
Like I, it's reminiscent of lady, you know, my lady.
Similar kind of thing.
And it's just, I don't know, it's just fun at the same time.
Sits and grooves and it just goes.
Yeah, just relax.
(06:11):
For those listening weird is track four on the first side of the vinyl.
First side of four.
'cause this is a double lp.
Double lp.
That's right.
And I will show off the album art for a second.
It is a beautiful black and white portrait of him.
(06:31):
And then there is the wonderful circular.
Formation is all of the track listings, which I, yeah, I think the design photography and the styling is lovely, but then the interior is Isaac.
There's some quire feel going on here.
I want that jacket.
I want that jacket as well.
(06:51):
What's even better?
What's even better?
This is the first vinyl I have bought that comes with a poster, double-sided.
One side with the fur coat image and the other side with the track listing image.
Amazing.
Very cool.
Do you have a hot pick?
Oh my goodness.
(07:13):
My two runners up is still and lover friend.
Mm-hmm.
And I think those two runners up would be my normal picks because I really enjoy the lead vocalist, the female elements that are in there, but due to me.
Okay.
Have I got a shopping list for you that it ticks all the boxes.
(07:34):
One, the rhythmic direction that it starts with, bang on straight in with that percussion.
It's like those busy drum patterns, it just sets you off into, like it sets the stage for it straight bang up.
The next bit would be, you know how much I love brass.
There is these little tinkers of, I think it's trumpet, but sometimes I'm not quite sure if it's trombone.
(08:00):
There's yeah, some brass elements that like tinker around there, which are just divine.
I absolutely love, again, like we're saying about across the board in this record, there's so much of this so soulful grooving elements, so yeah, it just.
Musically sonically, it just feels good.
(08:21):
It just sits.
It's comfortable.
But I would say if you just wanna listen to the music and groove in that and sit in it.
Don't listen to the lyrics.
Don't listen to the lyrics.
Yeah, because, because you're, you're gonna be in a mood for those lyrics.
Yeah, you are.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's the thing, right?
It's, we're not gonna say anything.
Just go and listen to it.
Yeah.
It's, you'll, did she actually listen?
(08:43):
Did she know?
Oh, yeah.
I heard all, every single word of that.
Yeah.
So despite the fact that just, yeah, musically, just stellar track.
The lyrics are, and to me, honestly, I actually really enjoy the storytelling.
How that song come, it definitely paints a picture.
I'm not going to go through some of those lyrics.
(09:05):
If you wanna dive into that and the story that it's telling, by all means go into it.
Sure you are ready to feel hot before you go in.
Oh yeah.
It's sexy.
It's sexy and it definitely, yeah, the way in which those words describing, it's lush.
It's lush.
I love it.
I do love that.
But from a vocal standpoint, I really enjoy, there's a little bit of call and response there, which I always thinks a vibe.
(09:30):
The production, again, I do think that this song, despite the fact that there is a very fluid.
Overarching sound for the record.
I do think this one stands out a little bit.
It has a different sexy feel even though there are elements of drum patterns and things that go across the record, there's something about this one that stands out for me.
(09:55):
But yeah, I tell you what, the one thing that actually is like next level for me is actually there's like a drop into the outro and it's like these lovely layers of synths.
Oh, Devon.
Absolutely divine.
Yeah, I love it so much.
It'll be an add impact.
Choice, definitely.
(10:15):
'cause that's coming from like back to Malibu, feeling a bit like that.
It's very cool.
It's fun with the feel.
You talk about the drum feel a lot, there seems to be, discussion is the wrong word.
It's people, it's keyboard warriors having debates about whether the drums are quantized or not.
And it's just, it feels good enough that you don't really need to care.
(10:37):
I would hazard to guess it.
That it's probably very deliberately written that way because there are plenty of drummers around the world who are incredible at playing delayed fields and trip hop fields and stuff that stuff like that live, but it's also a producer as good as Lauren Dalio can definitely create that, that sound in production.
(11:00):
Of course, it doesn't matter whether it's quantized or not, it doesn't matter.
And that's the thing is at no point did I feel like I was getting pulled out of it.
No questioning.
No, not at all.
I felt in the moment listening to it.
Absolutely immersing myself in the sound and yeah, it was taking me to a place.
Oh my goodness.
What a pleasure.
(11:21):
As always, Sam, and for those listening, I know we say it every time, but get this in your ear holes.
You will not be disappointed with this one.
It is sublime.
Timeless by Kate Rinada from RCA Records 2024.
Check it out.
(11:43):
Thanks for tuning in for another episode of Through The Creative Door.
If you enjoy our episodes and find value in them, consider supporting us by making a donation.
Just visit buy me a coffee.com/through the creative door or via the link in our Instagram buy where you can choose an amount and even write us a little message.
(12:06):
Every little bit helps, and we truly appreciate all of your support.
But if you can't donate, no worries.
You can still help us out by sharing our podcast with your friends and family, and leaving a review on your favorite platform.
Thanks so much for being part of our community, and we'll catch you on the next episode.
Bye.
Welcome to B Side, the mini series.
From through the Creative Door, join Alexis and Sam as they dive into the timeless world of vinyl.
For Alexis, vinyl was more than music.
It was a Sunday ritual she shared with her dad, listening, talking, and soaking in the stories behind each album and the artwork on every sleeve.
(00:30):
Though her dad is no longer with us, she continues this tradition with her friend Sam Timmerman.
Join them as they share their passion for vinyl and the stories is records.
Hold.
Hello brother.
It's a good morning.
It is morning.
Yes it is.
I believe it's morning for you two.
(00:51):
Now I am very keen to share this one.
You brought this album to our attention.
I did tell the listeners what you've got for us.
This is story time, so are you ready to hear a story?
I'm ready.
It's not as interesting as it might seem, but about 10 or 15 years ago, I'm gonna say, I was working with an amazing visual artist called Sid Paty at the time.
(01:18):
He was a still is.
He was a brilliant musician, incredible producer, and he created an EP that was designed around the style of Jade Dilla.
And I fell in love with it.
And then through that I came across other artists such as Anderson P, who I've loved for a long time, and Sid style.
(01:43):
And then another musician friend of mine by the name of Ben Steele, who everyone needs to get onto as well, showed me Kate.
And that's the story part of it, because.
Came into my ears and I went, okay, this is what feel good kind of body feel production is supposed to sound like, and didn't delve too much into the back huddle or anything like that.
(02:11):
Didn't do heaps of research.
But then about a month ago, I saw that there was a double LP that he released in 2024 that I had not heard.
That's what we have here.
And I'll be honest, I was blown away with this record.
I was saying to you off Mark, that I believe this is gonna be on my rotation for a long time to come.
(02:35):
It is a stellar vinyl absolute.
It's interesting that you talk about the production.
It definitely, yes.
It's a very beats very DJ kind of record.
If I would be so bold to say, I think that the engineering and how it's been produced and put together, it is such a groove all the way through the vinyl.
(03:00):
Oh, totally.
And I really feel like it's like elite level.
Do you know what I mean?
Like Oh yeah.
Pro primary engineer, Lauren Delio.
Oh.
Who, I don't know how much she did reading on her, but she's been.
Everywhere.
Even just past five years, she's done everything from Mary j Blige to a lip at Demmon Lovato up to the Trolls World Tour album.
(03:22):
Mm-hmm.
Much picture soundtrack, which is incredible.
Then came in onto a couple of K art records and Anderson pack or heaps of stuff that is just groove based and feels good.
And you know how much I lean into music over lyrics.
This is my jam, this is r and b, hip hop, and just a little bit of.
Disco sprinkle, and it's just, it's good.
(03:44):
Also, what a stellar lineup of colabs and feet.
It's not until you start to listen and go, oh, who's that?
Oh my God.
Who's that?
Oh my goodness.
The list is good.
Yeah, charter.
Charter.
Gambino's on there.
Thundercats on there.
Anderson P'S on there.
There's plenty of people that are stellar, and I believe that some of them have even appeared twice.
(04:09):
I think Rochelle Jordan's twice on the record.
Yeah, definitely.
I feel like the best way to describe this is it's not following trends, it just is.
Yeah, just this record feels very timeless.
Ha ha.
Which is probably from some of the things that I've read in my little rabbit hole, is like, why the title is timeless.
(04:35):
That's that.
And that seems to be the commentary was, at least in the critic side, people seem to enjoy the fact that it went back to the kind of original star that Celeste was using.
That kind of really gated drums combined with a bit more of the ambient samples.
Mm-hmm.
I really like the fact that the, the bottom end is just a little bit eqd up, so it's not super sub heavy.
(05:00):
Like you can listen to this on a tiny little speaker and it'll still make you feel the bottom end, which is unique.
I spent a bit of time.
Looking through the lyrics.
I have a way too long's worth of training on the ear to listen to music.
So lyrics tend to brush over the head sometimes, so I go and read them and there's a lot of pained themes across the record.
(05:27):
Yeah.
So then when weird comes along and it's just going, dude, just chill.
It doesn't feel great to talk about.
But at the same time, when someone.
Someone is imposing on the good feeling of an entire group and doesn't realize it.
Yeah.
And someone voices that in a tune.
I'm just like, oh, but that worked.
(05:48):
But the groove on this thing's awesome.
And there's little bit of almost DeAngelo backing vocals.
Like I, it's reminiscent of lady, you know, my lady.
Similar kind of thing.
And it's just, I don't know, it's just fun at the same time.
Sits and grooves and it just goes.
Yeah, just relax.
(06:11):
For those listening weird is track four on the first side of the vinyl.
First side of four.
'cause this is a double lp.
Double lp.
That's right.
And I will show off the album art for a second.
It is a beautiful black and white portrait of him.
(06:31):
And then there is the wonderful circular.
Formation is all of the track listings, which I, yeah, I think the design photography and the styling is lovely, but then the interior is Isaac.
There's some quire feel going on here.
I want that jacket.
I want that jacket as well.
(06:51):
What's even better?
What's even better?
This is the first vinyl I have bought that comes with a poster, double-sided.
One side with the fur coat image and the other side with the track listing image.
Amazing.
Very cool.
Do you have a hot pick?
Oh my goodness.
(07:13):
My two runners up is still and lover friend.
Mm-hmm.
And I think those two runners up would be my normal picks because I really enjoy the lead vocalist, the female elements that are in there, but due to me.
Okay.
Have I got a shopping list for you that it ticks all the boxes.
(07:34):
One, the rhythmic direction that it starts with, bang on straight in with that percussion.
It's like those busy drum patterns, it just sets you off into, like it sets the stage for it straight bang up.
The next bit would be, you know how much I love brass.
There is these little tinkers of, I think it's trumpet, but sometimes I'm not quite sure if it's trombone.
(08:00):
There's yeah, some brass elements that like tinker around there, which are just divine.
I absolutely love, again, like we're saying about across the board in this record, there's so much of this so soulful grooving elements, so yeah, it just.
Musically sonically, it just feels good.
(08:21):
It just sits.
It's comfortable.
But I would say if you just wanna listen to the music and groove in that and sit in it.
Don't listen to the lyrics.
Don't listen to the lyrics.
Yeah, because, because you're, you're gonna be in a mood for those lyrics.
Yeah, you are.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's the thing, right?
It's, we're not gonna say anything.
Just go and listen to it.
Yeah.
It's, you'll, did she actually listen?
(08:43):
Did she know?
Oh, yeah.
I heard all, every single word of that.
Yeah.
So despite the fact that just, yeah, musically, just stellar track.
The lyrics are, and to me, honestly, I actually really enjoy the storytelling.
How that song come, it definitely paints a picture.
I'm not going to go through some of those lyrics.
(09:05):
If you wanna dive into that and the story that it's telling, by all means go into it.
Sure you are ready to feel hot before you go in.
Oh yeah.
It's sexy.
It's sexy and it definitely, yeah, the way in which those words describing, it's lush.
It's lush.
I love it.
I do love that.
But from a vocal standpoint, I really enjoy, there's a little bit of call and response there, which I always thinks a vibe.
(09:30):
The production, again, I do think that this song, despite the fact that there is a very fluid.
Overarching sound for the record.
I do think this one stands out a little bit.
It has a different sexy feel even though there are elements of drum patterns and things that go across the record, there's something about this one that stands out for me.
(09:55):
But yeah, I tell you what, the one thing that actually is like next level for me is actually there's like a drop into the outro and it's like these lovely layers of synths.
Oh, Devon.
Absolutely divine.
Yeah, I love it so much.
It'll be an add impact.
Choice, definitely.
(10:15):
'cause that's coming from like back to Malibu, feeling a bit like that.
It's very cool.
It's fun with the feel.
You talk about the drum feel a lot, there seems to be, discussion is the wrong word.
It's people, it's keyboard warriors having debates about whether the drums are quantized or not.
And it's just, it feels good enough that you don't really need to care.
(10:37):
I would hazard to guess it.
That it's probably very deliberately written that way because there are plenty of drummers around the world who are incredible at playing delayed fields and trip hop fields and stuff that stuff like that live, but it's also a producer as good as Lauren Dalio can definitely create that, that sound in production.
(11:00):
Of course, it doesn't matter whether it's quantized or not, it doesn't matter.
And that's the thing is at no point did I feel like I was getting pulled out of it.
No questioning.
No, not at all.
I felt in the moment listening to it.
Absolutely immersing myself in the sound and yeah, it was taking me to a place.
Oh my goodness.
What a pleasure.
(11:21):
As always, Sam, and for those listening, I know we say it every time, but get this in your ear holes.
You will not be disappointed with this one.
It is sublime.
Timeless by Kate Rinada from RCA Records 2024.
Check it out.
(11:43):
Thanks for tuning in for another episode of Through The Creative Door.
If you enjoy our episodes and find value in them, consider supporting us by making a donation.
Just visit buy me a coffee.com/through the creative door or via the link in our Instagram buy where you can choose an amount and even write us a little message.
(12:06):
Every little bit helps, and we truly appreciate all of your support.
But if you can't donate, no worries.
You can still help us out by sharing our podcast with your friends and family, and leaving a review on your favorite platform.
Thanks so much for being part of our community, and we'll catch you on the next episode.
Bye.
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