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Clint Bush (00:00):
It's a city state,
so it's both the city and the
country. It's fairly small for acountry, fairly big for a city,
it doesn't have a fairly
Astrid Vinje (00:16):
it's very small
for a country. This is World
schooling. Q and A. I'm Astrid,creator of the wandering
daughter as a traveling family,we've spent four years traveling
full time to over 18 countriesand six continents, wherever we
go. We try to learn as much aswe can about the countries and
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cultures we visit while wedidn't coin the term. We like to
call this world schooling, usingthe world as our classroom each
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world schooling and share ourexperiences of traveling the
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dives. And these are allcountries we visited and
traveled to during our worldschooling adventure, from 2018
to 2022 had a little brain slipthere. So today's question we
are answering is, how do I WorldSchool in Singapore?
Clint Bush (01:30):
How do we World
School in Singapore? Where is
Singapore? Where
Astrid Vinje (01:34):
is Singapore?
Singapore is a city, state,
city, country, a country and acity, the city state. Let's
Clint Bush (01:44):
just all stop and
watch crazy, crazy.
Astrid Vinje (01:47):
It's a country
that is located on the tip of
the Malaysia Peninsula. So it'ssort of like overlaps between
Malaysia and kind of Indonesia.It's like, really close to that.
And, yeah, it's, it's, there's,like, a great airport there, the
Changi International Airport,which is actually my, my
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favorite airport in the wholewide world. And what else would
you like to share? We can diveinto the logistics of, well,
it's just a huge because it'sSingapore, is sort of like a hub
for traveling throughout therest of Southeast Asia. There's,
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like some The airport is big.There's, at this point, there's
like four terminals now, orsomething like that.
Clint Bush (02:38):
So yeah,
Astrid Vinje (02:38):
or three, three or
four, and the airport itself
has, like, shopping that you cango to and do, and there's a
separate garden shopping areathat's attached to the airport.
But I think you have to leavethe airport to, like, go to it,
called jewel, and it's thishuge, well, that there's this
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huge waterfall that you'll if Iyou know, if you google search
it, you'll see it. It's justthis huge waterfall that looks
like a vortex.
Clint Bush (03:13):
It does because it's
like, right in the center,
right? It comes,
Astrid Vinje (03:16):
yeah. And then
there's, like, plants all
around. It's just beautifularchitecture in the airport, and
then the airport itself has alot of like spaces for people to
like just relax during theirlayovers. There's a cactus
garden, there's like
Clint Bush (03:33):
aquariums built into
just like the
Astrid Vinje (03:39):
lawns and things
like that, and even a swimming
pool. I've seen it through myeyes
Clint Bush (03:45):
in a hotel, right?
Unknown (03:46):
Yes,
Clint Bush (03:47):
yes, yeah. I think
they were one of the first,
like, not just shopping, butit's like, a mall,
Astrid Vinje (03:51):
yeah?
Clint Bush (03:52):
I think they were
one of the first airports to
kind of have that, yeah, thatmall. Now they're everywhere. I
mean, here in the United States
Astrid Vinje (03:59):
even, yeah,
exactly. So it's just a great
place to, you know, spend alayover if you are traveling
through Southeast Asia.
Clint Bush (04:07):
Joke about where it
is, where Singapore is, because
there's a funny joke in themovie Crazy Rich Asians, where
they purposely point out whereSingapore is. Because I feel
like a lot of people don't know.We mentioned a previous episode
about Indonesia, logistics wise,it's a great transfer point to
Indonesia. It's only less thantwo hours away by plane. So it
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actually becomes a prettypopular spot for visa renewals,
for digital nomads stayingIndonesia.
Astrid Vinje (04:36):
Yeah, they'll just
take a trip up to Singapore,
spend the day there, or maybe,like, just, you know, a few
hours, catch the next flightback, and they can get a brand
new visa when they come andarrive.
Clint Bush (04:49):
Like you said, it's
a city state, so it's both the
city and the country. It'sfairly small for a country, so.
Fairly big for a city. Itdoesn't have a huge
Astrid Vinje (05:02):
fairly it's very
small for a country.
Clint Bush (05:04):
Yeah, it's the for
United States people, it's, it's
the same as Washington DC is,
Astrid Vinje (05:10):
yeah,
Clint Bush (05:10):
it's city and the
state. But it's, it's not
actually that big of a cityeither. Population wise, I don't
think population, but it'sdefinitely not in the top, top
large cities of the world,
Astrid Vinje (05:22):
yeah, like when we
visited there, we it didn't feel
like it was, like, overlycrowded, or anything like that,
yeah.
Clint Bush (05:30):
What it is, though,
is one of, one of the top
business and financial hubs inthe world. Though it really
connects multiple marketstogether, including Chinese,
Europe, United States, many ofthese markets seem to converge
in in Singapore,
Astrid Vinje (05:50):
yeah.
Clint Bush (05:51):
So, having said
that, it is, it's a, it's a
business hub. I mean, it's,
Astrid Vinje (05:54):
yeah,
Clint Bush (05:55):
that's why I think
it's a perfect like center point
for Asia, because there is somuch, it's easy to travel into
and it caters to just a large,large demographic.
Astrid Vinje (06:07):
With that, it
means that it's a lot more
expensive than the countrieslike, than its neighboring
countries.
Clint Bush (06:14):
Yeah, this is up
there with the likes of New
York, London, like it's thosekind of prices that you're gonna
you're going to see. Now, thereare some exceptions that we will
talk about that. But when you'retalking about lodging and stuff
you're looking at, like New Yorkand London, types of prices
usually. So having said that,it's kind of a hard place for
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World scores long term, this ismore of a transitional place for
world tours,
Astrid Vinje (06:44):
exactly. Yeah. I
mean, that's kind of how we did
it. We only spent a couple days.Granted, we've visited Singapore
many times in the past, and Ipersonally have visited there
many times in my my, you know,childhood up until adulthood and
so And each time, I probablyonly spend, like, a few days at
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a time, because, like, it's,it's a city, and there's, you
know, there's, like, cityamenities, city things that you
can do. But like Clint said, Ithink the cost of it makes it
hard to stay long term inSingapore.
Clint Bush (07:24):
Yeah, it's got,
we'll talk about this, but it's
got, like, major internationalfeature, major metropolitan
features, like, they host an f1race. They have one of the most
famous Marina bands, Marinasands, Marina
Astrid Vinje (07:40):
base bands,
Clint Bush (07:41):
hotels, yeah, it's
so, I mean, it, it garners. It's
kind of like Dubai in that way.I think it really like attracts
the wealthiest of people,
Astrid Vinje (07:53):
high end stuff.
Yeah,
Clint Bush (07:54):
so one other thing
too, is that it's the main
language, or the main spokenlanguage is English, largely
because of the business, butalso because it's it's kind of
evenly split up with three otherethnic groups,
Astrid Vinje (08:09):
yeah. So there's
so you will see like English is
spoken there. But then you willsee like Chinese, mostly
Mandarin, Malaysian, and Ibelieve it would be Hindi, some
kind of like Indian language.Probably
Clint Bush (08:25):
Hindi is the
primary,
Astrid Vinje (08:26):
yeah, because
those are the three major ethnic
groups that are found inSingapore, the the Indians, the
Chinese, the Indians, theChinese and the Malaysians. And
Singapore was a former Britishcolony. So you'll also see a lot
of like, British colonialarchitecture and British
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colonial like influences in someof the things. Like the famous
Raffles Hotel was, like, namedafter Sir Stamford Raffles, who,
who was one of the first, like,British guys to come in and
like, take over city.
Clint Bush (09:02):
And there's pockets
you walk down streets of
Singapore, and it feels verymuch like parts of London ways.
So as far as money goes,Singapore, dollar is the
currency Singapore is, like, atthe Hawker stands and stuff, you
can use cash. It's largely cardbased, at this point, I think
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so,
Astrid Vinje (09:25):
5050, because,
like, definitely the high end
stores, you know, you can paywith a card. But then, you know,
there are still a lot ofneighborhoods that are, you
know, like the Hawker stores, orif you're going into just like a
shop in like Little India, or,you know, like Arab Street, or
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something like that, you'll youmight still need to just pay
with dollars, sorry, with cash.So,
Clint Bush (09:53):
yeah, cash is really
easy to get. There's
Astrid Vinje (09:55):
there's banks and
stuff for Yeah, everything is
Clint Bush (09:58):
more expensive. The
the currency exchange is roughly
the same, I think, as Canadiandollars. So it's just a little
bit under what the US dollar is,
Astrid Vinje (10:08):
yep,
Clint Bush (10:10):
getting around,
what? What about getting around?
Astrid Vinje (10:12):
So there is, like,
I think it's that an MRT. So I
think it, it's underground,either underground, most
Clint Bush (10:19):
underground, I think
there are some spots that it's
above ground.
Astrid Vinje (10:21):
So there's, like,
you know, a rail system that you
can go into, into and use to getaround the city. We've used that
that, and it's really easy tonavigate. Yeah,
Clint Bush (10:33):
straight from the
airport too, right? Yeah, get on
it. Yep,
Astrid Vinje (10:36):
there are taxis
you can use. I don't remember, I
don't recall if there was grabthere. Do you remember using it?
Clint Bush (10:44):
I don't remember
using it
Astrid Vinje (10:46):
at
Clint Bush (10:46):
all. Yeah, we mostly
use the subway. It just was
really it's really easy to use.Then once you get in Singapore,
it's really easy to walk around.Yes,
Astrid Vinje (10:55):
the streets are
walkable and and actually, it's
fun to just walk fromneighborhood to neighborhood.
The thing about Singapore is,you know, it's diverse, but a
little bit segregated. So youhave a neighborhood that's just
the Chinese neighborhood. Andthen you have Little India where
you'll find, like, the, youknow, the shrines and all this,
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all the, like, Indian stores andstuff. And then you have Arab
Street, or, like, where, likethe Malaysian the Malay
community is. So it's like, andthen, and then you also have,
like, Clark key, which is like,along the the water, there's a
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river that kind of goes through.So that's like a nice
neighborhood to go to, and thenwhen you go down to, like where
the Marina is, and Marina BaySands, that's like another
neighborhood that's like alittle bit more high end built
up. So I think if you were goingto plan a visit to Singapore,
it'd be fun to just like, spenda day, like walking through
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these neighborhoods and justchecking out, like how different
and distinct each one is.
Clint Bush (12:09):
That said, in the
summertime, it can be extremely
hot,
Astrid Vinje (12:12):
yes,
Clint Bush (12:13):
extremely hot and
humid. Definitely be leery of
heat exhaustion, heat stroke.Stay hydrated, try to stay under
shade as much as possible,because you are kind of exposed.
There's actually not a lot oftrees or overexposure. There's
not a ton of tall, tallbuildings,
Astrid Vinje (12:30):
yeah.
Clint Bush (12:31):
So you are pretty
exposed out there.
Astrid Vinje (12:34):
I mean, most
stores, most buildings, will
have air conditioning. So youknow, if you get hot, just go
into one of those. But if you'replanning on doing a lot of
walking, yes, definitely like,be prepared for the heat and the
humidity. We were there. When wewere there, it was in January,
so it wasn't too bad.
Clint Bush (12:54):
It was
Astrid Vinje (12:54):
kind of even hot.
Yeah, it
Clint Bush (12:56):
was so warm. Yeah,
Astrid Vinje (12:58):
our family, my
siblings, were there us past
summer, and one of them, one ofthe kids, did get heat stroke.
And so mild, more mild heatstroke. So we encourage you to
bring, like, you know, a waterbottle with you. I think, yeah,
just to, just to be able to,like, stay hydrated while you're
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traveling.
Clint Bush (13:20):
Unlike a lot of
Asian, not a lot of Asian
countries, it is potable waterthere. So any of the drinking
fountains and or any of thefaucets and stuff, it's actual
drinkable, drinkable water. Ithink any other logistics there
that you can think of,
Astrid Vinje (13:37):
I think that's it.
Clint Bush (13:39):
Oh, I think the
other thing I wanted to mention,
Astrid Vinje (13:42):
yeah,
Clint Bush (13:43):
just about walking
safety wise, it's actually so,
because the government's prettystrict. I mean, I don't know if
anybody remembers from the 90sthe whole caning incident of one
of a US citizen. There
Astrid Vinje (13:57):
you get, you get
fined for everything, like even
chewing gum. You're not allowedto have chewing gum. Yeah,
there's a joke. I've seen this.Somebody had like, a t shirt on,
and it was and it said, like,Singapore is a fine city, and
then there's, like, all thedifferent rules that you get
fined for the shirt. It alwayssticks in my head because I'm
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like, yeah, that is so true.
Clint Bush (14:20):
So but what is the
flip side to that? Like, what's
the benefit of that?
Astrid Vinje (14:23):
I would say that
it has a very low crime rate and
Clint Bush (14:28):
super low crime
Yeah, right. And, like,
incredibly clean.
Astrid Vinje (14:31):
Yes,
Clint Bush (14:32):
walking around the
city is almost like walking
through Disneyland, becauseyou're
Astrid Vinje (14:36):
like, yeah,
Clint Bush (14:36):
how is it this
clean?
Astrid Vinje (14:38):
Yeah.
Clint Bush (14:39):
So that's, that's
interesting, yeah,
Astrid Vinje (14:41):
and I've been,
I've, you know, in my younger
days, pre family, like, I'vebeen, I spent time in Singapore
with, like, some friends, and westayed out, like, till one in
the morning, just like walkingalong the streets, and totally
felt safe while we were there.So.
Yeah,
yeah,
Clint Bush (15:01):
yeah, cool. Well, I
think that's enough for
logistics and overview. I thinkwe do some of the key
highlights. What's one of thekey highlights for you?
Astrid Vinje (15:08):
We love food. And
one of my favorite things about
Singapore is the food culture,particularly the hawker centers.
These are like food halls,basically where you go, and
there's just stalls of foodvendors of any kind of cuisine
that are, you know, the localcuisine, essentially. But you
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can get, like, Chinese food andIndian food and Malaysian food,
and like different types ofthose.
Clint Bush (15:38):
Singaporean food,
Astrid Vinje (15:39):
yeah, Singaporean
food, yes, yes. And this is a
great, like, I think this is agreat chance for World schoolers
to get to know the diversity ofSingaporean culture, because
it's like, All right, there inthe Hawker Center, you can taste
it in the flavors and the smellsand the types of foods that are,
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that are there.
Clint Bush (16:05):
This is actually why
I recommend. We recommended.
Mexico is a great kicking offpoint for people based in the
US, for World schooling ingeneral, I think Singapore is a
great place to start for ifyou've never been to Asia
before,
Astrid Vinje (16:19):
that's true.
Clint Bush (16:20):
It's one it's
English speaking. It's got a lot
of amenities, of big cities thatyou're used to, but it exposes
you to just so many differentcultures. Yes, you have the
three main, the three maincultures there, but within
Singaporean culture too,there's, there's a large
Filipino community. There's alot like, there's a lot of these
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subgroups too, and so you canfind foods for all sorts of
places. It's so close to go toThailand, to go to Vietnam, to
go to Indonesia. So, like, it'sa good kicking off point to go
to a lot of these places. So Ithink Singapore is a great
starting point
to just kind of get acclimated
Astrid Vinje (17:02):
for sure. What
about you? What are what's the
highlight for you?
Clint Bush (17:06):
Well, so because
there's so much money in in
Singapore, they, they'veactually done a great job of
using that for good in a lot ofways. And one of the things that
I love is just how eco focusedthey are
Astrid Vinje (17:20):
in their
architecture, right?
Clint Bush (17:22):
Well, in everything,
right? And architecture for one
but some of the efforts they'vedone, for example, trying to
find ways, unique ways torecycle plastic, to clean the
ocean, well, one of the, one ofthe cool things they have, this
thing called the Super trees.It's down the Gardens by the
Bay, which is also where theMarina Bay Sands Battelle is.
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But they're these giant you'veprobably seen pictures of, it's
easy to Google search, but likethese giant metal tree like
sculptures that they've createdthat you can go in and explore.
But they also are growing actualvegetation on these,
Astrid Vinje (18:00):
yeah,
Clint Bush (18:00):
on these trees. So
it creates this, like there was
some sort, I can't rememberexactly what they were trying to
do, but like there was, therewas a, there was a eco agenda
behind it. But they're juststunning to look at. And now, I
mean, they've been around forfor quite a while now, yeah, for
at least over 15 years.
Astrid Vinje (18:20):
Yeah,
Clint Bush (18:20):
and so they do have
quite a bit of vegetation grown
on them already at this point.So that's, I think that's one of
my there's some other highlightsin there. There's, like, this
lake with, like these giantbubbles, and it's just, it's,
it's
Astrid Vinje (18:34):
Children's Garden.
There's a children's garden,
yeah, you can actually readabout some of the the Gardens by
the Bay and some and the hawkercenters that I just mentioned in
in my blog, I have an article onlike, budget friendly things to
do in Singapore with kids. Sincewe did mention that it can get
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expensive, and actually, I dowant to make a note about how
expensive it is, there's, Ithink, because it is such a
wealthy city, I think thatthere's like an invisible group
in within Singapore that doesn'treally get mentioned. And I only
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will say this just because,like, I think I watched, like, a
Movie or Documentary about it.But there's a lot of like,
service workers. And they're,they live there too. They're
Singaporeans too. Or some ofthem are, like, domestic workers
coming from, like, the the Asiancountries outside of Singapore,
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looking for work and hopefully,like, sending money back home to
their families. And so what isinteresting about Singapore is
there is this, like, opulence,rich richness, or wealth and
stuff, but it's partiallypowered by the workers that are
like, you know, serving the thewealthy. And so I. Again, this
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is, like, if you have a chanceto sort of like, talk to your
kids about like that, or like,you know, the the disparity
between like, the wealthy andthe poor, a little bit about,
like, privilege and stuff, thisis a good chance to to start,
like, thinking or having thoseconversations with
Clint Bush (20:21):
them. Yeah, I'll
blow up with the name, but it
was a fictional narrative serieson HBO, right?
Astrid Vinje (20:25):
I think that was
it, right? Yeah, yeah.
Clint Bush (20:27):
It reminded for any
of us that have grown around,
grown up around, I grew up inColorado, for any of us that's
grown up around really popularski resorts, like Aspen stack,
kind of mentality, it's like thepeople there and experiencing
are different than the peoplewho work there. Yep, and there's
this wall between the two. So,yeah, yeah. What else? What's
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for you?
Astrid Vinje (20:49):
Well, I mean, I
guess we can, you know, since
we're talking about wealthythings, we can talk about
Orchard Road, when I was a kid,that was, like, one of my
favorite roads to go to. It'sjust has all of these huge, like
shopping malls, and some of themhigh end stores too. And I
always thought it was like,very, like flashy. And I think I
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bought, I think we bought, like,my phone there, when last time
there's, like, an Apple store,so I bought an Apple phone. But,
yeah, it's worth visiting justto see, like, you know, the the
consumerist aspect of Singapore.
Clint Bush (21:30):
So having said all
this, like, how long would you
recommend for worldscores to bethere
Astrid Vinje (21:37):
again? I think,
you know, I usually it's funny,
because I usually am like, yeah,spend as much time as you can in
a place, but I think, likeSingapore, you can probably
maybe a week is, is the max
Clint Bush (21:52):
I was gonna say
that? I was gonna say three
days.
Astrid Vinje (21:54):
Yeah, yeah.
Clint Bush (21:55):
I mean, the reason I
say three days is because you're
gonna blow through such a hugepart of your budget if you stay
too much longer,
Astrid Vinje (22:02):
yeah.
Clint Bush (22:03):
And it's, it's a
great city to live and work in.
I think,
Astrid Vinje (22:06):
yes, it's
Clint Bush (22:07):
not, you see all the
major bits after just a couple
days. And then, from a touriststandpoint, from a visitors,
they're
Astrid Vinje (22:14):
travelers
standpoint,
yeah.
Clint Bush (22:16):
And so it gets a
little, I wouldn't say,
uninteresting at that point, butjust like it like you could
probably move on, and
Astrid Vinje (22:24):
yeah,
Clint Bush (22:24):
you okay,
Astrid Vinje (22:25):
but definitely
take a visit, because there are
some great things to see. Youknow, I mentioned, like the
hawker centers, and we talkedabout Super trees. I think the
different neighborhoods areworth visiting. And there's just
like a fantastic art gallery inor art museum in Singapore as
well. A few your families intoart, and we
Clint Bush (22:47):
haven't. We haven't
personally experienced this, but
I have been told that there areforests on the edge of town that
you can camp in,
Astrid Vinje (22:56):
yeah,
Clint Bush (22:56):
so there's camping
available when
Astrid Vinje (22:58):
there's like, a
little island. So Singapore is
an island, but then there's alsoa little island off of Singapore
called Sentosa, which is nowjust like a resort place. So if
you wanted to, like, splurge andgo, you know, spend a few days
in a resort, you can do that aswell. So it's
Clint Bush (23:15):
also a great place
for yacht watching, just because
it is, I mean, it's a it's amarina, first and foremost. I
mean, it has been for millenniaat this point. And I think it
really is one of those, youknow, pearl of the Orient in the
places. I hate using that word,I'm sorry, but you know, it is
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one of those places that getsdepicted as, like,
Astrid Vinje (23:38):
the,
Clint Bush (23:39):
what is the what is
the city? The, like, mythical
Asian city that often is inliterature, I'm completely
spacing,
Astrid Vinje (23:50):
so I don't know,
Xanadu. Yeah,
Clint Bush (23:52):
no, not Xanadu. But
similarly, like that. Anyways,
Singapore is, like, rumored tobe that's kind of what that
place is. So anyways,
Astrid Vinje (24:06):
anything else you
want
Clint Bush (24:08):
to add?
Astrid Vinje (24:09):
Well, that's all
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and Clint. Be sure to check outthe show notes for any links we
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Clint Bush (25:23):
Bye. You.