March 24, 2026 • 33 mins
BASE-ically… we’ve got a lot more to talk about.
In this episode, Dustin and Brandon dive deeper into the R0AR ecosystem’s expansion onto Base Chain and what it means for the future of the market.
From infrastructure and liquidity to upcoming platform releases, this conversation breaks down what’s already happening behind the scenes — and what’s coming next.
We also zoom out to look at the bigger picture:
📈 Where the market could be heading
🧠 Why Base is becoming a key layer for growth
🚀 And how R0AR is positioning for the next phase of Web3
If you’ve been paying attention, you already know…
this is just the beginning.
Weekly ROAR Podcast with Dustin Hedrick & Brandon Billings
Sponsored by https://www.r0ar.io/
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SPEAKER_00 (00:02):
Folks, welcome back to your weekly roar.
We're now broadcasting verysoon, not just across podcasts,
your video cast that you seelive right here, not just
through our podcast distributionthrough Apple iTunes and
wherever else you're hearing usand all the different platforms.
There are so many.
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But we are now getting ready toenter our era of radio.
We'll get into that in just aminute.
But welcome back to your weeklyROAR wherever you're listening
to us from.
I'm Dustin Hedrick.
SPEAKER_01 (00:36):
And I'm Brandon Billings.
This week we've got a packedupdate.
So everything from major ARecosystem developments to market
conditions and some criticalregulation ships happening in
the U.S.
SPEAKER_00 (00:49):
So let's talk a little bit about Roar updates
and travel because we have beeninsane.
So let's start with what'shappening on our side.
We've just gone on a NorthCarolina trip where we met with
a lot of folks, had a speakingengagement that we met with
business leaders, a lot of meetand greets, and that's literally
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led into some of the stuff Ijust mentioned with the
recording, the radio piece.
Um, guys, some incredibleconversations.
We've recorded content whilewe're there, and we're going to
be doing more things to lay outbehind the scenes and insights
on what came from all that inthe coming weeks.
SPEAKER_01 (01:30):
Yeah, and we're also continuing to level up the show
itself, uh, moving from just apodcast to full broadcast format
with producers, distribution,and expanded reach.
SPEAKER_00 (01:40):
And seriously, that's that's a lot because you
I'm interjecting here, butBrandon has got a ton of
friends, have a ton of reach,and so they heard some of the
things we're doing, turnedaround and said, that is very
exciting.
Hey, have you considered radio?
We're like, no, but we both havea face for radio, so this is
probably a good idea.
SPEAKER_01 (02:00):
So that's true.
SPEAKER_00 (02:03):
So, anyways, go ahead, Brandon.
SPEAKER_01 (02:05):
Yeah, so uh ERS on base.
One of the biggest updates isthe Executive Roar Society is
officially preparing for launchon base chain.
I know, right?
That's that in Excel isexciting.
We haven't announced the exactmint date yet, but everything is
already set up on OpenC.
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Uh, and this time we're comingin with a major advantage.
We already have a blue checkmark partner on OpenSea, uh,
which means that significantlymore visibility, stronger
placement, and better exposureright out of the gate.
SPEAKER_00 (02:40):
Dude, and that was the biggest thing.
That was so hard to get throughthat process, just that
verification.
I remember going back and forthand back and forth, and even in
the mint process, we didn't havethe support of OpenSea.
We actually didn't get that bluecheck mark and our first um
OpenSea support until after wehad sold out and we were in
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secondary sales.
I know we sold out, gotsecondary sales, and then
they're like, okay, you can beblue check mark verified.
And if you want, you can use alaunch pad.
It's like we already did itwithout a launch pad.
So congratulations, community.
That was all you guys.
It was a lot of fun doing that.
It's gonna be a lot of fun now.
And it's funny, we back then wewere in that um, what do you
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want to call it, D Gen mindset,goofing around on social media?
We may do that again, buthonestly, ERS has grown up and
it's something much more, muchmore exciting.
And as we release month aftermonth new software, which you're
gonna hear about like five orsix this month, as well as we
bring back some of the softwarein season two that we've already
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done.
ERS is built into all of it.
And so this is a great time totake advantage of that, both if
you've never been in ERS becauseit's gonna expand your your use
and membership and your umbenefits, but also if you've
been in, you're gonna want touse get one in because you want
to get on base and it's gonnafunction on base chain where the
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first generation's only on ETH.
Now, we're always gonna supportall chains.
So if you're just on Ethereum,good for you.
If you jump on base, good foryou again.
So if you're holding, you know,NFTs that are ERC ERS family,
we'll be taking a snapshot ofthose, and you'll already be in
for the whitelist.
And then new guys, get readybecause I'm telling you, they
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meant it quick last time.
They're gonna go fast this time.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
And before it even mints, you'regonna actually hear about all of
the software, tools, reach, andmore that come with it.
The benefits are massivelyexpanding, both for old and new.
So we're not forgetting ourfolks have been with us since
the beginning.
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You OGs, you're about to getexpanded benefits.
Big friggin' time.
We've been holding up a lot ofinformation.
Like we said, it's gonna come onyou like a freight train.
So get ready.
Um, but yeah, so the next thingis, you know, let's talk about
events and investor expansionbecause that's really where we
have moved slowly.
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For those of you guys who arejust meeting us, we've largely
been doing this ourselves.
It's been a lot of internalfunding and investment.
We've kept it very shoestringinside of our space, even though
we've got a team with support ofover 200 around the world in our
full ecosystem.
We've done it on a budget.
And a lot of that budget's comeout of our hides.
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And now, because of what we'veproven and what we've got on
tap, as well as the maturity ofall of our ecosystem, our
entities, and the Roar CountryClub and our reach, we now have
folks that are standing at thedoor knocking, saying, How can I
get in for a piece of thatgovernance and be a part of
investing in this for thefuture?
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And so we've got two newinvestor-focused events coming
up.
These will be opportunities notto just present, but to meet,
connect, and build relationshipsdirectly with investors.
I'm excited.
I guess you probably couldn'ttell.
But anyway, on top of that,we've been accepted as a
featured startup atCointelegraph and Coindesk
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consensus events and parties.
So we just got through thatapproval process.
Your roar, big milestone.
We'll put it out on social thisweek.
We just got listed as a featuredstartup.
What?
Now there's a strong possibilitythey're gonna be selected as a
featured presenter.
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So we're currently in therunning for one of those limited
slots.
You got to do pitch decks and60-minute whatever, and or 60
seconds not 60 minutes, 60second elevator pitches.
We're turning all of that inthis week, and we're gonna hear
back on whether or not we get aslot on stage.
Those are hard to come by.
So even if that doesn't happen,the meet and greets, our
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information being out there, themarketing that comes with it, as
well as all of the events wherewe're meeting with investors, is
already huge.
And so that's just icing on thecake.
Now, that's not all.
We have a literal directorthat's working with investments,
grants, and expansion for ourRoar ecosystem now.
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And so you'll hear more of hisname and what he does later.
Um, he's gonna be going with us,but he's also opened up more
events, two more events thisyear, where we're gonna be doing
meet and greets with investors,VCs, and more.
Guys, this gets exciting becausethose investments go to things
that you don't even know aboutthat were on our 10-year roadmap
that speeded up to next year.
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Guys, we're talking about ourfive years compacting into the
one year, and now our 10 yearscompacting in two.
And we're just saying that theroadmap is more like um a dot
instead of a line because it'shappening all at once.
So super exciting, supergrateful, and we're in the rent
running for these limited spots,and even if we don't get in,
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we're already partnered, we'regonna be shouting that out all
over social media and puttingout some PR and whatnot.
That we're now um a featuredstartup with consensus boom.
SPEAKER_01 (08:18):
It's exciting.
I look forward to uh to gettingdown there too.
Yes, me too.
Uh so let's see, uh token 2049,we got an update.
Um so unfortunately it's beenpostponed.
But it actually kind of workedin our favor uh because it's
opened up our schedule.
Now we're able to go do some ofthose things that Dustin was
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just talking about uh withanother investor event.
And so, you know, for us themomentum doesn't slow down, we
just keep rolling.
Uh whatever opportunities areahead of us, we just go one to
the next to the next to thenext.
And so when that one didn't workout, we'll still go to uh token
2049, it just it'll be at adifferent time.
So I'm looking forward to that.
SPEAKER_00 (09:01):
Me too.
I am too.
We're we've also got more thatwe don't even know about yet
because when you go to one, youget invited to more.
And guys, we have folksliterally beating down our door
to start writing articles andstart shouting everything out.
We actually have an exacttimeline we're following for how
we release information becausewe want to make sure everyone
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gets the biggest benefit at thesame time.
So there were leaks before, andthere was you know, pumping and
dumping and jumping fromcommunity, and we're just not
doing that.
We're becoming very focused,laser focused on how information
is conveyed, shared.
We know exactly what we're doingevery week.
And let me tell you something,Brandon and I, we're doing like
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seven things at a time everygiven week that we're checking
in on.
That's not a joke, that islegitimate.
So we're right on schedule, ourteam is right on schedule, our
marketing team, communitysupport teams, right on
schedule, right on point.
Legal team is on point.
One more thing to say aboutthat.
If you're out there in the RCCRoar Country Club and you're
like, got questions about thegovernance, I've been in the
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platform, whatever, it takestime to respond.
We thought it'd be like 24, 48hours, it can take up to a week.
We got a lot going on becauseall the teams have to do all the
things they do very well, andthey're killing it.
So if you're out there on ourteam, thank you for being
amazing.
You guys are incredible.
Go love on our communityleaders, our mods, love on all
those guys that are supportingin every way in social media.
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You don't know this, but thereare a load of people involved in
everything from X platform,Discord, Telegram, the Dow on
RCC platform.
You guys are incredible.
So thank you to everyone.
It's all happening.
But at the end of the day, Ijust want to say that even as
you hear this next piece, I amultra bullish because I know
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what's coming for the next threemonths, I know what's coming for
the next six months, I knowwhat's coming for the next year.
We do.
We can see it.
And now we're gonna dream abouta 10-year plan being in our
two-year plan.
I'm just saying, okay.
Crypto markets this week.
Let's dig into what's reallyhappening this last week and
coming into this next week.
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Let's shift into the market.
It's been choppy.
I mean, that's all you can say.
It's been choppy.
Bitcoin's been sitting around70,000.
It's up and down, down roughly 5or 6% over last week.
Ethereum followed that move,hovering around the 2100 to 2300
range.
I got nothing to say about thatexcept for I love it when it
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pumps because it drives thevalue of one roar up.
So that's all cool.
But overall, short-termsentiment is slightly bearish or
sideways.
And I want to add to this thatis not the case at one roar.
And you will see over the nextmonth, there are about four
things coming we have not talkedabout that will be released one
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at a time, right on time, thatliterally affect dislodging one
roar from being stuck with that.
So, right now we are followingthat because we are connected to
Ethereum and we will stay there.
But there are four other thingscoming for our ecosystem that
will directly, directly affectour token.
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And that's exciting becauseuntil September 10th, we have
this clean process with theairdrop ongoing, with the
release of tokens entering themarket all the way till
September, but we're alreadygoing to see something shifting
because of those four differentmagical dynamics.
So, yes, market sideways.
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We're tracking with it.
We see it.
You've seen OneWorld's beentracking almost exactly with the
market.
I'm excited to say that that isvery, very shortly going to be
challenged by pressures that areoutside of those dynamics
control.
Boom.
SPEAKER_01 (12:55):
Wow, bro.
I I was afraid you were about toget leaky there for a minute.
SPEAKER_00 (13:00):
No leaks here, baby.
Hey, legal's all up in mybusiness, you know.
Like, just saying, we havelearned they I've been trained
about the leakage.
SPEAKER_01 (13:10):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Well, you know, you're talkingabout the market.
Um, there's a few drivers uhbehind that movement.
I want to talk about that realquick.
First, uh the Fed signaling uhhigher for longer interest
rates.
That continues to put pressureon risk assets like crypto.
Uh second, ongoing geopoliticaltension and inflation uh
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concerns, and then third, ETFflows have cooled a bit.
Uh still positive overall, butwe're seeing short-term
outflows.
So uh that's kind of the driversbehind that choppy movement,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (13:43):
And as expected, I think you know the interest
rates thing for being uh youknow higher for longer, it that
tied with the fact that JeromePowell said that he's gonna
break with all propriety andbreak with standards of the Fed.
He's even breaking with historyand what's appropriate, and he's
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talking about staying past histerm.
Thank God we have term limits,at least on the president,
because it is really weird whenpeople say, you know what, I am
not, I'm quote quote, notaffecting the market, and I am
quote quote, I stand as a personin the middle, I have no
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political agenda, and yetthey're saying, but I'm not
leaving because I won't allowsome other political party to
get any change over or affectthe market in a good way.
That is bizarre to me that he'stalking about staying past his
term and doing something thatjust isn't done.
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What's going on there?
Well, it doesn't matter how wefeel, doesn't matter what your
politic is or what side of theaisle you fall on.
Let me talk from middle aislefor us right now in crypto.
If you're a crypto bro outthere, I'm with you right now.
Here it is.
All that screams is a lack ofconfidence in what happens with
the Fed going forward and whatcan happen to the economy.
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We're not even talking aboutwhat's reality for interest or
whether things are inflated ordeflated.
We're talking about people thatare saying that they're going to
mess with stuff in a way theyshouldn't.
This is very similar to whathappened in the past that's been
called out right now with bigentities, and I'll say names
like JP Morgan and others who'vescrewed with everything from
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silver to gold to crypto anddone the opposite of what
they've even said they weresupposed to do out in public,
thus pumping, dumping, and doingall kinds of stuff weird to
market.
At the end of the day, thesepeople are going to get called
out on the fact that they havecreated crypto that doesn't
exist by manipulating futuresand gambling kinds of solutions
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and software that are out theresupposed to be used for
insurances and you knowexchanges that aren't telling
the truth about how much cryptothey really have, and thus doing
what banks do.
You put one dollar in the bank,they spend nine against it.
Nine, nine against it, notseven, eight, nine, nine against
it.
One dollar, they spend nineagainst it.
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So a crypto exchange that isn'tliterally locked in a ledger, so
not a decentralized exchangethat is locked, you know,
wallets to wallets andautomated, but those that
function as order books, youcan't tell me that we're putting
in one and they're recordingthat only one is used.
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I'm thinking that wheneverything's revealed and
there's some clarity on it, thatexplains some stuff, and I'll
tell you who messes with thatthe most, and we talked about it
because at the the the judiciallevel they're playing with it in
courts, and they're pushing outmoney that should have already
been pushed out years ago in2016 when things failed.
They're pushing it out now tomess with token values.
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I guarantee they're doing thesame things.
These big boys are gonna getcaught, and it's gonna come, but
that is affecting our marketright now, and with people
saying that they're gonna standin the way of that kind of
clarity.
Hello, friends, I'm just sayingit's just crypto bros, they're
still against us.
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So it might not be SenatorWarren and Schumer and Pelosi,
and it may not be some of thosebigger, noisier people, but Jay
Pattel is still here and dromeis going to do what drome do.
So get ready for that.
Oh, and we can't even forgetGensler, SEC, and CFTC.
All of them.
They're gonna do what they'regonna do.
And until that's dealt with,that's gonna constantly affect
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the subconscious of the marketin crypto.
So, underlying strength, let'sgo to the good news.
Here's where it getsinteresting.
Underneath the short-termweakness, the fundamentals are
strong now.
There are arguments that can bemade here.
Institutional adoption iscontinuing to rise.
The Fed adopted at the at thevery treasury adopted the use of
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crypto and the implementation ofit in function.
So we're seeing major playerslike BlackRock, MasterCard, the
Treasury pushing deeper intoeither tokenization or function
and use.
Bitcoin supply on exchanges isstill low.
What does that signal?
That people aren't trying tosell, sell, sell, and that is
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structurally bullish.
And so the summary is simple.
Short-term weakness is long-termstrength.
And I'll say this with thetiming that we're in right now,
as we're rolling out each thing,whether it's each software we
roll out, each solution that'scoming, each event that we're
in, some big news that we can'ttalk about yet that I want to
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leak about.
Oh my goodness.
We're waiting on the NDAs to runout and for teams that we're
contracted with to say you cantalk about it.
But some of these things, andthen you put to that some of the
news that we have coming for ourRoar Chain 2.0, the biggest
radical upgrade you've everheard of, and power in-house to
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the community, and the nodes,and all of that coming together,
and September 10th, and otherannouncements I can't say, hyper
bullish for that.
SPEAKER_01 (19:29):
Hyper bullish for sure.
Let's talk about somethingthat's flying under the radar,
but that still matters, and thatis the Save Act.
And you say, why the Save Act,right?
It's not a crypto bill.
It's focused on voting laws andcitizenship, uh, voter ID
requirements, that sort ofthing.
Uh, but it impacts cryptoindirectly because it's
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contributing to a politicalgridlock, which is slowing down
progress on actual cryptolegislation.
Uh Dustin, you want to talkabout that a little bit?
SPEAKER_00 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean, I'll jump in.
Um, what's the impact?
Uh the first thing is shortterm, it's still creating
uncertainty and delays.
We're so close to clarity, whichis what it says Clarity Act.
Clarity on so much more.
And I won't get into that one,but the Save Act is holding us
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back from the clarity and it'screating uncertainty and delays.
Long term, it's mostly neutralfor crypto itself.
It's not an anti-crypto law orrule at all.
So I'm kind of you know neutralon it when it comes to that, but
it's slowing down clarity.
Clarity Act is coming.
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So bring talk about the ClarityAct.
Let's just let's dig into it fora minute.
SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
Yeah, the Clarity Act actually is a big one.
So this is a major U.S.
crypto market structure bill,and it's already passed the
House and is currently stuck inthe Senate as of um now, uh,
March 2026.
SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
So let's talk about what it does.
Let's break it down.
It defines crypto categories,and commodities fall under the
CFTC, securities under the SEC.
We've long said the Howie rulingis important for how we see you
know a token and how it fits,whether an ERC20 is one thing or
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another, or an ERC 1155 and 721or something else.
We've got a deep understandingof this.
How RWA is gonna work.
This is all affected.
So let's just be clear crypto ismoving forward, development's
moving forward, and there's moremoney going back into it right
now than for many years.
Like a lot of people took timeoff.
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We've been building the wholetime, a lot of people took two
years off.
So we did not.
Long story short, it's it'sstifling everything from just
running.
So this is gonna give the CFTCauthority over crypto spot.
Markets.
This speaks back to the playingaround that some people are
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doing.
They're using what should berisk management and insurances
for people who are maybe in somekind of fund management.
It's it's taken it from that,and it's more like gambling,
pumping and dumping, and spikingor creating um what we call it
in the stock market world, nakedshort selling, where people sell
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stock they don't own.
It's just naked, and they coverit within a fraction of seconds.
Crypto can make that faster.
I mean, heck, honestly, we couldbuild something and spin it up
that does flash lending andflash trading and do that in the
market.
We can manipulate markets likethat.
We do not.
We choose to stay within ourzone and do things that are
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legal and legitimate, but it'spossible.
And so with the legal, it makesit better because it creates a
framework for exchanges, what wecall the digital commodity
exchanges and more.
So importantly, it's gonna allowtokens to evolve from securities
or security-like intocommodities over time.
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It's also gonna beginintroducing a structure for
stable coins and DeFi.
This is super important.
The banks hate us.
The banks hate us.
I won't get in those conversecontroversies.
I'm gonna let Brandon do that ina second.
It's just because we can giveaway so much and we keep it lean
and we don't have the overhead.
So this part that part is stilldeveloping.
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Brandon, take that up for us.
SPEAKER_01 (23:30):
Yeah, so there are some major debates around this
bill.
Um, the the whole stablecoinyield, banks versus crypto
native firms, um, the ongoingSEC versus CFTC power struggle,
and then concerns aroundnational security and AML
compliance, right?
So all of that's kind of wrappedup into what you were just
talking about.
SPEAKER_00 (23:51):
And to be honest, the banks are fighting us.
Legacy banking is fightinghardcore.
It's funny because this you'regonna hear us talk more and more
in our white papers, as wealready have in our podcasts,
about where banking fits andwhere legacy banking fits in
this future.
Um, there's a place, there's aplace.
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We've been talking about it.
We're talking more and more.
However, they're afraid thatwe're able to give away better
yields, and they know thatdollars are going to leave the
legacy fiat world and come intothe stable coin market.
Why?
Because honestly, you can'tafford for your money to be dumb
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anymore.
I mean, honestly, your money isdumb in markets.
Where, let's be clear, I'm gonnaI'm gonna tell you, this is
insane.
But you're getting fractions ofa penny of percentages on your
money in a bank, even if it'sgiving you a dividend of some
sort.
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It's just not anything much.
Fractions.
Even if you do something that'smore long-term locked in, and
you get a CD money marketaccount, your returns are up to
a certain percent.
Those percentages, they cannotmatch what's going on in crypto
because of low overhead andimmediacy of function and use
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and utility and value creation.
The assets are really doingsomething, crypto.
So do you want to put your moneyin something that's gonna make
you$10 for every$100,000 you putin over a six-month to a year
period?
Or do you want something thatcan give you what used to be
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mutual fund rate returns northof four to five percent, up to
twelve percent and more?
Inside the regular financialworld, you've got to get into
some really risky stuff to getthose returns.
But in crypto, it could beagainst a stable coin that's not
fluctuating, it's against the USdollar and treasury, and you're
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getting mutual fund returns onyour cash.
Are you getting me?
That's nonsense.
And the banks are scared todeath, as they should be.
But instead of fighting this,what they should do is come
alongside it because it's agreat future for all of us.
So if this bill passes, it'sgonna give clarity to, I think,
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literally put fire on the marketand drive crypto adoption
because the yields are soinsane.
It's gonna protect the geniusesin crypto.
It's a game changer.
It unlocks institutional capitalto enter the market for real,
not in some fund that is fakelyheld that they can spend nine
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times against whatever the realholding is and create more
tokens that don't exist andaren't really locked on a wall
and in chain.
It's gonna be real positions,real function, one-to-one
return, or I mean one-to-onelock.
This positions the U.S.
as a global crypto hub.
Now, that's important because ifthe U.S.
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does that, it's a great place toonboard the crypto.
In a season where China andother big entities out there
that have a lot of money.
I mean, you guys, the mostbillionaires in the world live
in China.
And all they're doing isoffboarding from crypto.
You cannot get on crypto inChina.
You can have their CBDC, whichis not crypto, and they will
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track you and shut your worlddown.
But they're happy to offloadyour crypto in their world.
So they've opened up exchangesto sell out and get your cash
out, but you cannot get yourcash in.
So we're gonna be the placewhere it can be onboarded and
offboarded.
We're becoming the center.
So this creates bullish momentumacross Bitcoin, Ethereum, and
major assets.
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But if it stalls or fails, we'regonna continue with regulatory
uncertainty, stagnant marketslike that, or whatever.
Innovation's gonna move offshoreand adoption slows down.
Let's be honest, some ourpartners are offshore because
it's it's best for the marketright now and best for what
we're doing.
You don't even know about thoseguys yet.
And I'm not leaking anything,Brandon, but some of those are
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that way because of we're we'rewe're doing what's best for this
ecosystem in any eventuality,and that makes sense.
So, guys, this is great for us.
If it doesn't come forward fastenough, it's gonna be hard on
the market.
Like I told you just a minuteago, we're actually d-leveraging
from the market in a lot ofways, and that's gonna create a
(28:37):
lot of pressure on our token inthe next little bit.
So there you go.
I'm telling you up front,everyone's getting the
information at the same time.
Nothing's backdoor pumpy dumpy.
This is just reality.
Watch and see.
SPEAKER_01 (28:49):
Yeah, you know, Dustin, I think uh maybe we dive
a little deeper on the future ofbanking um for another podcast.
That that sounds like a greattopic.
SPEAKER_00 (28:58):
Yes, please, a lot more.
Multiples ongoing when we're onthe radio.
SPEAKER_01 (29:04):
I love that.
SPEAKER_00 (29:06):
I know.
SPEAKER_01 (29:08):
Uh, but let's let's tie this all together real
quick.
This is how it connects.
The Save Act is contributing todelays, right?
The Clarity Act is what we'relooking for.
We need that to define thatlong-term future, and the macro
conditions like Fed policy andliquidity are currently driving
market behavior.
So that's what's going on rightnow.
SPEAKER_00 (29:27):
Right on.
And as far as the Save Act goes,it would be good to get some
clarity there too.
I mean, confidence in ourelections is just a no-brainer.
And and I'm not going to go downthe political, you know, pundit
pipeline, but I will say this.
Every major country, yeah, um,out of 180 that are legitimate,
(29:49):
not just territories, butcountries, every major country,
including some of the ones thatare actually picking on the US
about it and saying that weshouldn't have it, it's
interesting because they allhave those laws at a federal
level.
That's right.
So it's like this is actually ano-brainer, um, especially when
you got 18 states that cannotverify their roles, their
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information, and they'reactually overnumbered based on
adult population that livesthere.
So when it's like 1.7 more, 1.7million more voters who can vote
on every election or that dovote on these elections out of
18 states, and they don't havethe adult population to support
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that, guys.
That's just opaque.
What have I said from thebeginning?
I think elections should be onblockchain.
Ha ha, windfall.
We make all the fees too.
So bring it to the blockchain,all ledger, all transparent,
haha, and that'll fix all of itbecause it's a one-to-one.
But anyway, I mean, they'renever gonna do that.
I mean, Congress loves to beopaque.
(31:01):
I mean, honestly, yeah, nobodyin Congress is gonna show you
their bank ledger for all theytake from all those lobbyists,
and that's both sides of theaisle.
Yet we run all our business on amulti-sig that you can track
just saying.
So we're transparent.
That's what it is.
So final takeaways.
Enough of that chatter.
I just love pissing Congressoff.
I like punching both sides ofthe aisle.
(31:22):
Yeah.
So here's the bottom line.
Short term, the market is macrodriven.
Midterm, it's policy driven.
And the single biggest catalystahead is regulatory clarity in
the United States, and that'struth.
Um, and then that brings moneyour way.
The biggest risk right now isn'tthe market, it's political
(31:43):
gridlock.
And again, good news for youguys at Roar, we're moving
forward irregardless.
We're moving forward withpartners, we're moving forward
with the best next steps.
We've never stopped developingand working this whole time.
Guys, Brenda and I, we put, Idon't know, most of you guys
(32:03):
work a nine to five job, you putin maybe 40 to 50 hours a week.
That's when we're just gettingstarted.
So when you're CEOs of somethinglike this and we're co-founders
here, that's when you start.
There's hustle day, night, andweekends on what we do.
And now, as of this last month,you've just started to see it
(32:26):
with your eyeballs since lastfall.
This is exciting.
Boom.
I love it.
All right, that's all for thisweek's episode of your weekly
Roar between ecosystem growth,market movement, and regulation.
We're right in the middle of amajor shift.
So stay informed, stay sharp,follow us everywhere.
Click the track, make sureyou've got your notifications
(32:49):
turned on, and you're followingus on whatever platform you're
on because we're going to keepyou in the know, especially what
we're doing at Roar, and um keepshouting out those milestones on
our social media.
See them post as milestone postsas we do them.
You guys stay informed, staysharp, have a great one.
Thanks for being on your weeklyRoar.
SPEAKER_01 (33:06):
Thank you, everybody.
Take care.
Folks, welcome back to your weekly roar.
We're now broadcasting verysoon, not just across podcasts,
your video cast that you seelive right here, not just
through our podcast distributionthrough Apple iTunes and
wherever else you're hearing usand all the different platforms.
There are so many.
(00:23):
But we are now getting ready toenter our era of radio.
We'll get into that in just aminute.
But welcome back to your weeklyROAR wherever you're listening
to us from.
I'm Dustin Hedrick.
SPEAKER_01 (00:36):
And I'm Brandon Billings.
This week we've got a packedupdate.
So everything from major ARecosystem developments to market
conditions and some criticalregulation ships happening in
the U.S.
SPEAKER_00 (00:49):
So let's talk a little bit about Roar updates
and travel because we have beeninsane.
So let's start with what'shappening on our side.
We've just gone on a NorthCarolina trip where we met with
a lot of folks, had a speakingengagement that we met with
business leaders, a lot of meetand greets, and that's literally
(01:10):
led into some of the stuff Ijust mentioned with the
recording, the radio piece.
Um, guys, some incredibleconversations.
We've recorded content whilewe're there, and we're going to
be doing more things to lay outbehind the scenes and insights
on what came from all that inthe coming weeks.
SPEAKER_01 (01:30):
Yeah, and we're also continuing to level up the show
itself, uh, moving from just apodcast to full broadcast format
with producers, distribution,and expanded reach.
SPEAKER_00 (01:40):
And seriously, that's that's a lot because you
I'm interjecting here, butBrandon has got a ton of
friends, have a ton of reach,and so they heard some of the
things we're doing, turnedaround and said, that is very
exciting.
Hey, have you considered radio?
We're like, no, but we both havea face for radio, so this is
probably a good idea.
SPEAKER_01 (02:00):
So that's true.
SPEAKER_00 (02:03):
So, anyways, go ahead, Brandon.
SPEAKER_01 (02:05):
Yeah, so uh ERS on base.
One of the biggest updates isthe Executive Roar Society is
officially preparing for launchon base chain.
I know, right?
That's that in Excel isexciting.
We haven't announced the exactmint date yet, but everything is
already set up on OpenC.
(02:26):
Uh, and this time we're comingin with a major advantage.
We already have a blue checkmark partner on OpenSea, uh,
which means that significantlymore visibility, stronger
placement, and better exposureright out of the gate.
SPEAKER_00 (02:40):
Dude, and that was the biggest thing.
That was so hard to get throughthat process, just that
verification.
I remember going back and forthand back and forth, and even in
the mint process, we didn't havethe support of OpenSea.
We actually didn't get that bluecheck mark and our first um
OpenSea support until after wehad sold out and we were in
(03:04):
secondary sales.
I know we sold out, gotsecondary sales, and then
they're like, okay, you can beblue check mark verified.
And if you want, you can use alaunch pad.
It's like we already did itwithout a launch pad.
So congratulations, community.
That was all you guys.
It was a lot of fun doing that.
It's gonna be a lot of fun now.
And it's funny, we back then wewere in that um, what do you
(03:26):
want to call it, D Gen mindset,goofing around on social media?
We may do that again, buthonestly, ERS has grown up and
it's something much more, muchmore exciting.
And as we release month aftermonth new software, which you're
gonna hear about like five orsix this month, as well as we
bring back some of the softwarein season two that we've already
(03:49):
done.
ERS is built into all of it.
And so this is a great time totake advantage of that, both if
you've never been in ERS becauseit's gonna expand your your use
and membership and your umbenefits, but also if you've
been in, you're gonna want touse get one in because you want
to get on base and it's gonnafunction on base chain where the
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first generation's only on ETH.
Now, we're always gonna supportall chains.
So if you're just on Ethereum,good for you.
If you jump on base, good foryou again.
So if you're holding, you know,NFTs that are ERC ERS family,
we'll be taking a snapshot ofthose, and you'll already be in
for the whitelist.
And then new guys, get readybecause I'm telling you, they
(04:33):
meant it quick last time.
They're gonna go fast this time.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
And before it even mints, you'regonna actually hear about all of
the software, tools, reach, andmore that come with it.
The benefits are massivelyexpanding, both for old and new.
So we're not forgetting ourfolks have been with us since
the beginning.
(04:53):
You OGs, you're about to getexpanded benefits.
Big friggin' time.
We've been holding up a lot ofinformation.
Like we said, it's gonna come onyou like a freight train.
So get ready.
Um, but yeah, so the next thingis, you know, let's talk about
events and investor expansionbecause that's really where we
have moved slowly.
(05:14):
For those of you guys who arejust meeting us, we've largely
been doing this ourselves.
It's been a lot of internalfunding and investment.
We've kept it very shoestringinside of our space, even though
we've got a team with support ofover 200 around the world in our
full ecosystem.
We've done it on a budget.
And a lot of that budget's comeout of our hides.
(05:35):
And now, because of what we'veproven and what we've got on
tap, as well as the maturity ofall of our ecosystem, our
entities, and the Roar CountryClub and our reach, we now have
folks that are standing at thedoor knocking, saying, How can I
get in for a piece of thatgovernance and be a part of
investing in this for thefuture?
(05:57):
And so we've got two newinvestor-focused events coming
up.
These will be opportunities notto just present, but to meet,
connect, and build relationshipsdirectly with investors.
I'm excited.
I guess you probably couldn'ttell.
But anyway, on top of that,we've been accepted as a
featured startup atCointelegraph and Coindesk
(06:19):
consensus events and parties.
So we just got through thatapproval process.
Your roar, big milestone.
We'll put it out on social thisweek.
We just got listed as a featuredstartup.
What?
Now there's a strong possibilitythey're gonna be selected as a
featured presenter.
(06:40):
So we're currently in therunning for one of those limited
slots.
You got to do pitch decks and60-minute whatever, and or 60
seconds not 60 minutes, 60second elevator pitches.
We're turning all of that inthis week, and we're gonna hear
back on whether or not we get aslot on stage.
Those are hard to come by.
So even if that doesn't happen,the meet and greets, our
(07:00):
information being out there, themarketing that comes with it, as
well as all of the events wherewe're meeting with investors, is
already huge.
And so that's just icing on thecake.
Now, that's not all.
We have a literal directorthat's working with investments,
grants, and expansion for ourRoar ecosystem now.
(07:22):
And so you'll hear more of hisname and what he does later.
Um, he's gonna be going with us,but he's also opened up more
events, two more events thisyear, where we're gonna be doing
meet and greets with investors,VCs, and more.
Guys, this gets exciting becausethose investments go to things
that you don't even know aboutthat were on our 10-year roadmap
that speeded up to next year.
(07:44):
Guys, we're talking about ourfive years compacting into the
one year, and now our 10 yearscompacting in two.
And we're just saying that theroadmap is more like um a dot
instead of a line because it'shappening all at once.
So super exciting, supergrateful, and we're in the rent
running for these limited spots,and even if we don't get in,
(08:06):
we're already partnered, we'regonna be shouting that out all
over social media and puttingout some PR and whatnot.
That we're now um a featuredstartup with consensus boom.
SPEAKER_01 (08:18):
It's exciting.
I look forward to uh to gettingdown there too.
Yes, me too.
Uh so let's see, uh token 2049,we got an update.
Um so unfortunately it's beenpostponed.
But it actually kind of workedin our favor uh because it's
opened up our schedule.
Now we're able to go do some ofthose things that Dustin was
(08:40):
just talking about uh withanother investor event.
And so, you know, for us themomentum doesn't slow down, we
just keep rolling.
Uh whatever opportunities areahead of us, we just go one to
the next to the next to thenext.
And so when that one didn't workout, we'll still go to uh token
2049, it just it'll be at adifferent time.
So I'm looking forward to that.
SPEAKER_00 (09:01):
Me too.
I am too.
We're we've also got more thatwe don't even know about yet
because when you go to one, youget invited to more.
And guys, we have folksliterally beating down our door
to start writing articles andstart shouting everything out.
We actually have an exacttimeline we're following for how
we release information becausewe want to make sure everyone
(09:24):
gets the biggest benefit at thesame time.
So there were leaks before, andthere was you know, pumping and
dumping and jumping fromcommunity, and we're just not
doing that.
We're becoming very focused,laser focused on how information
is conveyed, shared.
We know exactly what we're doingevery week.
And let me tell you something,Brandon and I, we're doing like
(09:44):
seven things at a time everygiven week that we're checking
in on.
That's not a joke, that islegitimate.
So we're right on schedule, ourteam is right on schedule, our
marketing team, communitysupport teams, right on
schedule, right on point.
Legal team is on point.
One more thing to say aboutthat.
If you're out there in the RCCRoar Country Club and you're
like, got questions about thegovernance, I've been in the
(10:06):
platform, whatever, it takestime to respond.
We thought it'd be like 24, 48hours, it can take up to a week.
We got a lot going on becauseall the teams have to do all the
things they do very well, andthey're killing it.
So if you're out there on ourteam, thank you for being
amazing.
You guys are incredible.
Go love on our communityleaders, our mods, love on all
those guys that are supportingin every way in social media.
(10:29):
You don't know this, but thereare a load of people involved in
everything from X platform,Discord, Telegram, the Dow on
RCC platform.
You guys are incredible.
So thank you to everyone.
It's all happening.
But at the end of the day, Ijust want to say that even as
you hear this next piece, I amultra bullish because I know
(10:51):
what's coming for the next threemonths, I know what's coming for
the next six months, I knowwhat's coming for the next year.
We do.
We can see it.
And now we're gonna dream abouta 10-year plan being in our
two-year plan.
I'm just saying, okay.
Crypto markets this week.
Let's dig into what's reallyhappening this last week and
coming into this next week.
(11:12):
Let's shift into the market.
It's been choppy.
I mean, that's all you can say.
It's been choppy.
Bitcoin's been sitting around70,000.
It's up and down, down roughly 5or 6% over last week.
Ethereum followed that move,hovering around the 2100 to 2300
range.
I got nothing to say about thatexcept for I love it when it
(11:32):
pumps because it drives thevalue of one roar up.
So that's all cool.
But overall, short-termsentiment is slightly bearish or
sideways.
And I want to add to this thatis not the case at one roar.
And you will see over the nextmonth, there are about four
things coming we have not talkedabout that will be released one
(11:53):
at a time, right on time, thatliterally affect dislodging one
roar from being stuck with that.
So, right now we are followingthat because we are connected to
Ethereum and we will stay there.
But there are four other thingscoming for our ecosystem that
will directly, directly affectour token.
(12:16):
And that's exciting becauseuntil September 10th, we have
this clean process with theairdrop ongoing, with the
release of tokens entering themarket all the way till
September, but we're alreadygoing to see something shifting
because of those four differentmagical dynamics.
So, yes, market sideways.
(12:36):
We're tracking with it.
We see it.
You've seen OneWorld's beentracking almost exactly with the
market.
I'm excited to say that that isvery, very shortly going to be
challenged by pressures that areoutside of those dynamics
control.
Boom.
SPEAKER_01 (12:55):
Wow, bro.
I I was afraid you were about toget leaky there for a minute.
SPEAKER_00 (13:00):
No leaks here, baby.
Hey, legal's all up in mybusiness, you know.
Like, just saying, we havelearned they I've been trained
about the leakage.
SPEAKER_01 (13:10):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Well, you know, you're talkingabout the market.
Um, there's a few drivers uhbehind that movement.
I want to talk about that realquick.
First, uh the Fed signaling uhhigher for longer interest
rates.
That continues to put pressureon risk assets like crypto.
Uh second, ongoing geopoliticaltension and inflation uh
(13:31):
concerns, and then third, ETFflows have cooled a bit.
Uh still positive overall, butwe're seeing short-term
outflows.
So uh that's kind of the driversbehind that choppy movement,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (13:43):
And as expected, I think you know the interest
rates thing for being uh youknow higher for longer, it that
tied with the fact that JeromePowell said that he's gonna
break with all propriety andbreak with standards of the Fed.
He's even breaking with historyand what's appropriate, and he's
(14:05):
talking about staying past histerm.
Thank God we have term limits,at least on the president,
because it is really weird whenpeople say, you know what, I am
not, I'm quote quote, notaffecting the market, and I am
quote quote, I stand as a personin the middle, I have no
(14:25):
political agenda, and yetthey're saying, but I'm not
leaving because I won't allowsome other political party to
get any change over or affectthe market in a good way.
That is bizarre to me that he'stalking about staying past his
term and doing something thatjust isn't done.
(14:46):
What's going on there?
Well, it doesn't matter how wefeel, doesn't matter what your
politic is or what side of theaisle you fall on.
Let me talk from middle aislefor us right now in crypto.
If you're a crypto bro outthere, I'm with you right now.
Here it is.
All that screams is a lack ofconfidence in what happens with
the Fed going forward and whatcan happen to the economy.
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We're not even talking aboutwhat's reality for interest or
whether things are inflated ordeflated.
We're talking about people thatare saying that they're going to
mess with stuff in a way theyshouldn't.
This is very similar to whathappened in the past that's been
called out right now with bigentities, and I'll say names
like JP Morgan and others who'vescrewed with everything from
(15:32):
silver to gold to crypto anddone the opposite of what
they've even said they weresupposed to do out in public,
thus pumping, dumping, and doingall kinds of stuff weird to
market.
At the end of the day, thesepeople are going to get called
out on the fact that they havecreated crypto that doesn't
exist by manipulating futuresand gambling kinds of solutions
(15:54):
and software that are out theresupposed to be used for
insurances and you knowexchanges that aren't telling
the truth about how much cryptothey really have, and thus doing
what banks do.
You put one dollar in the bank,they spend nine against it.
Nine, nine against it, notseven, eight, nine, nine against
it.
One dollar, they spend nineagainst it.
(16:17):
So a crypto exchange that isn'tliterally locked in a ledger, so
not a decentralized exchangethat is locked, you know,
wallets to wallets andautomated, but those that
function as order books, youcan't tell me that we're putting
in one and they're recordingthat only one is used.
(16:42):
I'm thinking that wheneverything's revealed and
there's some clarity on it, thatexplains some stuff, and I'll
tell you who messes with thatthe most, and we talked about it
because at the the the judiciallevel they're playing with it in
courts, and they're pushing outmoney that should have already
been pushed out years ago in2016 when things failed.
They're pushing it out now tomess with token values.
(17:04):
I guarantee they're doing thesame things.
These big boys are gonna getcaught, and it's gonna come, but
that is affecting our marketright now, and with people
saying that they're gonna standin the way of that kind of
clarity.
Hello, friends, I'm just sayingit's just crypto bros, they're
still against us.
(17:24):
So it might not be SenatorWarren and Schumer and Pelosi,
and it may not be some of thosebigger, noisier people, but Jay
Pattel is still here and dromeis going to do what drome do.
So get ready for that.
Oh, and we can't even forgetGensler, SEC, and CFTC.
All of them.
They're gonna do what they'regonna do.
And until that's dealt with,that's gonna constantly affect
(17:48):
the subconscious of the marketin crypto.
So, underlying strength, let'sgo to the good news.
Here's where it getsinteresting.
Underneath the short-termweakness, the fundamentals are
strong now.
There are arguments that can bemade here.
Institutional adoption iscontinuing to rise.
The Fed adopted at the at thevery treasury adopted the use of
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crypto and the implementation ofit in function.
So we're seeing major playerslike BlackRock, MasterCard, the
Treasury pushing deeper intoeither tokenization or function
and use.
Bitcoin supply on exchanges isstill low.
What does that signal?
That people aren't trying tosell, sell, sell, and that is
(18:32):
structurally bullish.
And so the summary is simple.
Short-term weakness is long-termstrength.
And I'll say this with thetiming that we're in right now,
as we're rolling out each thing,whether it's each software we
roll out, each solution that'scoming, each event that we're
in, some big news that we can'ttalk about yet that I want to
(18:54):
leak about.
Oh my goodness.
We're waiting on the NDAs to runout and for teams that we're
contracted with to say you cantalk about it.
But some of these things, andthen you put to that some of the
news that we have coming for ourRoar Chain 2.0, the biggest
radical upgrade you've everheard of, and power in-house to
(19:18):
the community, and the nodes,and all of that coming together,
and September 10th, and otherannouncements I can't say, hyper
bullish for that.
SPEAKER_01 (19:29):
Hyper bullish for sure.
Let's talk about somethingthat's flying under the radar,
but that still matters, and thatis the Save Act.
And you say, why the Save Act,right?
It's not a crypto bill.
It's focused on voting laws andcitizenship, uh, voter ID
requirements, that sort ofthing.
Uh, but it impacts cryptoindirectly because it's
(19:51):
contributing to a politicalgridlock, which is slowing down
progress on actual cryptolegislation.
Uh Dustin, you want to talkabout that a little bit?
SPEAKER_00 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean, I'll jump in.
Um, what's the impact?
Uh the first thing is shortterm, it's still creating
uncertainty and delays.
We're so close to clarity, whichis what it says Clarity Act.
Clarity on so much more.
And I won't get into that one,but the Save Act is holding us
(20:24):
back from the clarity and it'screating uncertainty and delays.
Long term, it's mostly neutralfor crypto itself.
It's not an anti-crypto law orrule at all.
So I'm kind of you know neutralon it when it comes to that, but
it's slowing down clarity.
Clarity Act is coming.
(20:44):
So bring talk about the ClarityAct.
Let's just let's dig into it fora minute.
SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
Yeah, the Clarity Act actually is a big one.
So this is a major U.S.
crypto market structure bill,and it's already passed the
House and is currently stuck inthe Senate as of um now, uh,
March 2026.
SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
So let's talk about what it does.
Let's break it down.
It defines crypto categories,and commodities fall under the
CFTC, securities under the SEC.
We've long said the Howie rulingis important for how we see you
know a token and how it fits,whether an ERC20 is one thing or
(21:22):
another, or an ERC 1155 and 721or something else.
We've got a deep understandingof this.
How RWA is gonna work.
This is all affected.
So let's just be clear crypto ismoving forward, development's
moving forward, and there's moremoney going back into it right
now than for many years.
Like a lot of people took timeoff.
(21:42):
We've been building the wholetime, a lot of people took two
years off.
So we did not.
Long story short, it's it'sstifling everything from just
running.
So this is gonna give the CFTCauthority over crypto spot.
Markets.
This speaks back to the playingaround that some people are
(22:03):
doing.
They're using what should berisk management and insurances
for people who are maybe in somekind of fund management.
It's it's taken it from that,and it's more like gambling,
pumping and dumping, and spikingor creating um what we call it
in the stock market world, nakedshort selling, where people sell
(22:25):
stock they don't own.
It's just naked, and they coverit within a fraction of seconds.
Crypto can make that faster.
I mean, heck, honestly, we couldbuild something and spin it up
that does flash lending andflash trading and do that in the
market.
We can manipulate markets likethat.
We do not.
We choose to stay within ourzone and do things that are
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legal and legitimate, but it'spossible.
And so with the legal, it makesit better because it creates a
framework for exchanges, what wecall the digital commodity
exchanges and more.
So importantly, it's gonna allowtokens to evolve from securities
or security-like intocommodities over time.
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It's also gonna beginintroducing a structure for
stable coins and DeFi.
This is super important.
The banks hate us.
The banks hate us.
I won't get in those conversecontroversies.
I'm gonna let Brandon do that ina second.
It's just because we can giveaway so much and we keep it lean
and we don't have the overhead.
So this part that part is stilldeveloping.
(23:29):
Brandon, take that up for us.
SPEAKER_01 (23:30):
Yeah, so there are some major debates around this
bill.
Um, the the whole stablecoinyield, banks versus crypto
native firms, um, the ongoingSEC versus CFTC power struggle,
and then concerns aroundnational security and AML
compliance, right?
So all of that's kind of wrappedup into what you were just
talking about.
SPEAKER_00 (23:51):
And to be honest, the banks are fighting us.
Legacy banking is fightinghardcore.
It's funny because this you'regonna hear us talk more and more
in our white papers, as wealready have in our podcasts,
about where banking fits andwhere legacy banking fits in
this future.
Um, there's a place, there's aplace.
(24:12):
We've been talking about it.
We're talking more and more.
However, they're afraid thatwe're able to give away better
yields, and they know thatdollars are going to leave the
legacy fiat world and come intothe stable coin market.
Why?
Because honestly, you can'tafford for your money to be dumb
(24:36):
anymore.
I mean, honestly, your money isdumb in markets.
Where, let's be clear, I'm gonnaI'm gonna tell you, this is
insane.
But you're getting fractions ofa penny of percentages on your
money in a bank, even if it'sgiving you a dividend of some
sort.
(24:56):
It's just not anything much.
Fractions.
Even if you do something that'smore long-term locked in, and
you get a CD money marketaccount, your returns are up to
a certain percent.
Those percentages, they cannotmatch what's going on in crypto
because of low overhead andimmediacy of function and use
(25:19):
and utility and value creation.
The assets are really doingsomething, crypto.
So do you want to put your moneyin something that's gonna make
you$10 for every$100,000 you putin over a six-month to a year
period?
Or do you want something thatcan give you what used to be
(25:41):
mutual fund rate returns northof four to five percent, up to
twelve percent and more?
Inside the regular financialworld, you've got to get into
some really risky stuff to getthose returns.
But in crypto, it could beagainst a stable coin that's not
fluctuating, it's against the USdollar and treasury, and you're
(26:03):
getting mutual fund returns onyour cash.
Are you getting me?
That's nonsense.
And the banks are scared todeath, as they should be.
But instead of fighting this,what they should do is come
alongside it because it's agreat future for all of us.
So if this bill passes, it'sgonna give clarity to, I think,
(26:25):
literally put fire on the marketand drive crypto adoption
because the yields are soinsane.
It's gonna protect the geniusesin crypto.
It's a game changer.
It unlocks institutional capitalto enter the market for real,
not in some fund that is fakelyheld that they can spend nine
(26:48):
times against whatever the realholding is and create more
tokens that don't exist andaren't really locked on a wall
and in chain.
It's gonna be real positions,real function, one-to-one
return, or I mean one-to-onelock.
This positions the U.S.
as a global crypto hub.
Now, that's important because ifthe U.S.
(27:10):
does that, it's a great place toonboard the crypto.
In a season where China andother big entities out there
that have a lot of money.
I mean, you guys, the mostbillionaires in the world live
in China.
And all they're doing isoffboarding from crypto.
You cannot get on crypto inChina.
You can have their CBDC, whichis not crypto, and they will
(27:32):
track you and shut your worlddown.
But they're happy to offloadyour crypto in their world.
So they've opened up exchangesto sell out and get your cash
out, but you cannot get yourcash in.
So we're gonna be the placewhere it can be onboarded and
offboarded.
We're becoming the center.
So this creates bullish momentumacross Bitcoin, Ethereum, and
major assets.
(27:53):
But if it stalls or fails, we'regonna continue with regulatory
uncertainty, stagnant marketslike that, or whatever.
Innovation's gonna move offshoreand adoption slows down.
Let's be honest, some ourpartners are offshore because
it's it's best for the marketright now and best for what
we're doing.
You don't even know about thoseguys yet.
And I'm not leaking anything,Brandon, but some of those are
(28:15):
that way because of we're we'rewe're doing what's best for this
ecosystem in any eventuality,and that makes sense.
So, guys, this is great for us.
If it doesn't come forward fastenough, it's gonna be hard on
the market.
Like I told you just a minuteago, we're actually d-leveraging
from the market in a lot ofways, and that's gonna create a
(28:37):
lot of pressure on our token inthe next little bit.
So there you go.
I'm telling you up front,everyone's getting the
information at the same time.
Nothing's backdoor pumpy dumpy.
This is just reality.
Watch and see.
SPEAKER_01 (28:49):
Yeah, you know, Dustin, I think uh maybe we dive
a little deeper on the future ofbanking um for another podcast.
That that sounds like a greattopic.
SPEAKER_00 (28:58):
Yes, please, a lot more.
Multiples ongoing when we're onthe radio.
SPEAKER_01 (29:04):
I love that.
SPEAKER_00 (29:06):
I know.
SPEAKER_01 (29:08):
Uh, but let's let's tie this all together real
quick.
This is how it connects.
The Save Act is contributing todelays, right?
The Clarity Act is what we'relooking for.
We need that to define thatlong-term future, and the macro
conditions like Fed policy andliquidity are currently driving
market behavior.
So that's what's going on rightnow.
SPEAKER_00 (29:27):
Right on.
And as far as the Save Act goes,it would be good to get some
clarity there too.
I mean, confidence in ourelections is just a no-brainer.
And and I'm not going to go downthe political, you know, pundit
pipeline, but I will say this.
Every major country, yeah, um,out of 180 that are legitimate,
(29:49):
not just territories, butcountries, every major country,
including some of the ones thatare actually picking on the US
about it and saying that weshouldn't have it, it's
interesting because they allhave those laws at a federal
level.
That's right.
So it's like this is actually ano-brainer, um, especially when
you got 18 states that cannotverify their roles, their
(30:14):
information, and they'reactually overnumbered based on
adult population that livesthere.
So when it's like 1.7 more, 1.7million more voters who can vote
on every election or that dovote on these elections out of
18 states, and they don't havethe adult population to support
(30:39):
that, guys.
That's just opaque.
What have I said from thebeginning?
I think elections should be onblockchain.
Ha ha, windfall.
We make all the fees too.
So bring it to the blockchain,all ledger, all transparent,
haha, and that'll fix all of itbecause it's a one-to-one.
But anyway, I mean, they'renever gonna do that.
I mean, Congress loves to beopaque.
(31:01):
I mean, honestly, yeah, nobodyin Congress is gonna show you
their bank ledger for all theytake from all those lobbyists,
and that's both sides of theaisle.
Yet we run all our business on amulti-sig that you can track
just saying.
So we're transparent.
That's what it is.
So final takeaways.
Enough of that chatter.
I just love pissing Congressoff.
I like punching both sides ofthe aisle.
(31:22):
Yeah.
So here's the bottom line.
Short term, the market is macrodriven.
Midterm, it's policy driven.
And the single biggest catalystahead is regulatory clarity in
the United States, and that'struth.
Um, and then that brings moneyour way.
The biggest risk right now isn'tthe market, it's political
(31:43):
gridlock.
And again, good news for youguys at Roar, we're moving
forward irregardless.
We're moving forward withpartners, we're moving forward
with the best next steps.
We've never stopped developingand working this whole time.
Guys, Brenda and I, we put, Idon't know, most of you guys
(32:03):
work a nine to five job, you putin maybe 40 to 50 hours a week.
That's when we're just gettingstarted.
So when you're CEOs of somethinglike this and we're co-founders
here, that's when you start.
There's hustle day, night, andweekends on what we do.
And now, as of this last month,you've just started to see it
(32:26):
with your eyeballs since lastfall.
This is exciting.
Boom.
I love it.
All right, that's all for thisweek's episode of your weekly
Roar between ecosystem growth,market movement, and regulation.
We're right in the middle of amajor shift.
So stay informed, stay sharp,follow us everywhere.
Click the track, make sureyou've got your notifications
(32:49):
turned on, and you're followingus on whatever platform you're
on because we're going to keepyou in the know, especially what
we're doing at Roar, and um keepshouting out those milestones on
our social media.
See them post as milestone postsas we do them.
You guys stay informed, staysharp, have a great one.
Thanks for being on your weeklyRoar.
SPEAKER_01 (33:06):
Thank you, everybody.
Take care.
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