Exclusive Interview with Jerry Jeudy - Cleveland Browns Daily - 11.12.25

On this “First Friday” edition of the program, Z sits down with Browns WR Jerry Jeudy for an exclusive interviews (56:20). Beau and Z are also joined by Browns play-by-play voice Andrew Siciliano to preview this week’s game against the Baltimore Ravens (1:16:12). You’ll also meet the Ravens (23:55) and get your weekly college football roundup (36:47).

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Alright, so live on a first Friday American edition of
Cleveland Brown's Daily.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
I am merely Bo.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
He is the great z. Look at your boards? Getting ready? Baby?
That's right, We're onto the Ravens Baltimore. Let's go, let's go,
let's go. Indeed, how you doing, buddy?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm great.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
How are you? Man?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm not bad, not bad at all.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
We're in similar same but differently yeah, different kind of similar?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Similar?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Where do you go different?

Speaker 6 (01:03):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I went blue?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Both went blue on the pant of this and I
got oh, you really got to look at the full
are like the cowboys?

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Different blues?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Was I the first one that made you aware of
all the blues?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
That you really like? I mean I wasn't you know?
You're not in my eyes?

Speaker 7 (01:21):
You color blind?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
You're not hard to seeing, you can see.

Speaker 8 (01:23):
It, but but really you brought it home you crystallized
it for me.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot, and it's pretty classic.
It all works, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 8 (01:31):
For a long time though, I did believe erroneously that
the pants were silver, So I think you maybe are
the one that made me realize that they're actually not.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Kind of like a light bluish silverish green sometimes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
The story with that was, wasn't it tech shram because
it made them that covered because it would look silver
on the television.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
But how would silver now look silver?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
But then what's amazing it's is they just stayed there.
They just an HD. They just stayed there. We're now
we're gonna go light blue.

Speaker 8 (01:57):
And I may perhaps they appeared silver when I was
a young man, could have on the standard devius that
that they're not.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, could have been that way. Absolutely on that side
of things, my friend, We are on to the Ravens.
Practice should be wrapping up here shortly here at the
ccm C. Updates for you as that goes along. In
terms of our side from an injury standpoint, Alex Right
not practicing. Coach rnasked if Right will have to go
on I R He said, We'll see so that is

(02:24):
not particularly great. He's been playing guy we talked about
yesterday with Hoff. Yeah, he's been playing so well for
the Browns this season. And the guy that you know
and you look at, you know, two of the guys
that were young that you thought were going to be
in line to you know, secure financial their futures for
themselves and perhaps even generations with type of money you
can make in the National Football League. M J Emerson

(02:44):
goes down, you know, before the season and now that
I don't think this will be that long term that
it would affect Alex Right to that level, but you know,
it always does when you miss in It's been kind
of you know, like you miss a couple of games
last year.

Speaker 8 (02:57):
Yeah, it just kind of adds up. And I'm sure
it's something that's in negotiations. But Alex Right three sacks,
nine tackles for loss, that's second most on this team.
So yeah, he's been having a fantastic season. He's got
a forced fumble as well, twenty four tackles.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
He's been good.

Speaker 8 (03:13):
I mean, when you think about Miles this side, and
then you think about the other side, which is McGuire,
So Miles has eleven sacks, seventeen tackles for loss.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
The other side's not gonna match him on sacks, so
you're gonna have four sex.

Speaker 8 (03:24):
But to have fifteen tackles for loss from Isaiah McGuire
and Alex Right this year is darn good your two ends. Basically,
you know if you throw in the other Cam Thomas,
because I put him on the Mile side of it.
So yeah, that side's got eighteen tackles for loss of this.
I have thirty three tackles for loss from your defensive
ends in nine games is outrageous. Over three, it's three

(03:46):
and a half a game.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, And it's a good example of team building in
the sense of you have a superstar in Miles who
you are compensating well, and then you can't do that
on the other side, so you have to hit on
draft picks that have to be developed four right, and
they and they developed them, and those guys lived up
to their They they exceeded their draft value and are

(04:08):
playing in a position now where you feel very good
about where you are on the defensive front. We have
signed wide receiver Caden Davis. He's to the active roster
from the practice squad. Isaiah Bond returned to practice today.

Speaker 8 (04:21):
As my guest with Caden Davis is that's going to
be something to do with maybe the return game. He
had a big return against the Ravens in a week
eighteen last year over forty yards. And you know, sometimes
you end up going into these, you know, preseason rabbit holes.
And this guy's an incredible athlete from Kansas who just

(04:41):
you know, good athlete, great turner. And my guess is
it's to try to get some juice in the in
the return game.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
For Baltimore Ravens. On practicing today, Lamar Jackson, Rashad Bateman,
Justice Hill, Marlon Humphrey, and Jay Higgins. So those are
your Ravens in actives not practicing for today.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Nothing.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Lamar's fine, He's gonna play. This is what he does
right always he always skips this. Yeah, practice, we know
I'm talking about that. Talk about practice. Don't worried about that,
trying to play a game. I had a I want
to run something by you guys. This isn't this is
this is an actual uh I'd like to have. This
is the conversation on the way to school this morning
by the thirteen and eleven year old man. So they're

(05:21):
talking about they're talking about gym class. Okay, gym class.
So they don't have it every day.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Gym class heroes, yep, don't have it every day.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
So they have it, I don't know, two days a
week or something. One's a sixth grader, ones an eighth grader,
and Beams the eleven year old was like, he's like,
I have it like fifth period, and NBC was like, well,
that sucks. I have it first. And he's like, it's awesome.
And I'm like, why would that be awesome? And he goes, well,
because it's a great easy way to start the day.
And I said, well, don't you sweat? And he goes,

(05:53):
whos sweats in gym class? Dad? And I thought me always?
So then I started quiz them and I'm like, well,
hold on a second, what is going on in gym class?
What is going on in pe? Why are we not
what's happening? Am I? That is my generation that far
removed from the realities of today. And I came to

(06:13):
the conclusion that yes, it is.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
So.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I don't know now rural Montana so maybe it was
very different, but we had gym class in elementary and
middle school every day yes, every single day, and then
we showered after like you'd sweat. You'd participate in a sport,
you do the physical fitness challenge, all that stuff. A
lot of times, a little Lord of the Flies like
dodgeball and stuff or indoor field hockey or whatever. You
beat each other up and then you go and then

(06:38):
you go back.

Speaker 8 (06:38):
Like by the time that I got Yeah, absolutely every
single day. Middle school is when we started showing. I
don't think they had that on our like elementar.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
You're probably right it was middle school. I think you're right.
I think it was middle middle schools.

Speaker 8 (06:50):
Yeah, but like in middle school and even in high school,
I mean some of it would be like there'd be
you know, a tennis thing where you'd learn how to
play fast, and then you'd like kickleball.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
First time I played pickle was then tennis.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
That was that didn't make it to California.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, we did it. Sixth grade. I remember playing pickleball,
badminton and golf and everything. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (07:08):
Football we would have like flag football and we'd have
like a leading basically, yes, and then we played basketball.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, of course did you have this here?

Speaker 4 (07:18):
I was a sweaty, disgusting mess. Yeah, that is I
mean everything that you could play.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, you just go and then you'd do it for
the hour in the shower. You give you last ten
minutes of shower, then you go back to school.

Speaker 8 (07:31):
Yeah, I mean it like we aren't they in there
like trying to compete and play sports.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I mean that's what we don't think that's encouraged. That part,
what that part competing in the gym class. I don't
think that they can force that now. So and then
in high school. In high school, we had advanced PE,
which was the last period I had it my last
three years of high school. We had it was Advanced B.
We did. All the athletes did it. We did the

(07:57):
last period of school and our football coach in it.
And we basically just played basketball and football and lifted
weights and golfed and bowling and all that type of
stuff is what we did. But yeah, no, they don't.
Like a lot of times they'll just like kids will
just walk around, what like, what do you want to learn?
And it's not help me in it? What do you mean?
They don't pit them against each other to like be competitive.

(08:20):
Why I don't know, I don't know. And they don't
have it all the time we have young kids in there.
Do they have Did they have pee every day in
like middle school elementary? Yeah, doctor jaded, Yeah we do that.
They have that too, the pacer test beamsy just did it. Yeah,
they still have that. Of course.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
I don't get that doesn't make any sense to me.
Like high school, we had an Olympic sized pool. Yeah,
on Fridays it was water games. The coach would throw
you footballs as you jumped off the Olympic high dive. Yeah,
like let's go.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, they do the swim they do. They have the
swimming thing.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Talkst a number of minutes and you got tests and
little things like that or like but like in the
gym you were running up and down the floor.

Speaker 9 (09:08):
Play.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, we had like a hall of fame, a PE
hall of fame, like it was by that the.

Speaker 8 (09:15):
People would draft and like, well, now I bet they
wouldn't do that anymore because people's feelings could get hurt
in the draft.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
So what do they do? What they what do they
do in Pe class?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, like they're playing Are they on their phones?

Speaker 6 (09:28):
No?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
No, I don't think it's that, but like they're doing
NBC was telling me that he does, like like they're
in like a football period right now. And he's like
in Division three, and I'm like, how would you be
in Division three? Like you actually play football, and he's like, well,
there's nobody else that can really catch or whatever. And
I'm like, oh, well, I guess that could be part
of it. I don't even know how you would do
football in a gym. I have no idea, but it

(09:49):
just blew my mind that they weren't like working out, sweating,
showering going back to school and I guess maybe this
has been this way for a long time, and I
just was I mean, I remember the first the first year.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
I don't know in sixth grade if you showered after PE,
but that's the way after seven.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
So for us, middle school was sixth grade.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Six to eight was yeah, same, same, but like sixth
grade you were still trying to figure it out. Like
some guy, you're like, wait, I got a shower.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (10:15):
I mean, I don't know, you guys, but PE was
a time for competition and then if you were the winner,
which yeah, yeah, you have pea cocking around a little bit,
and dude.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
It was my answer to the kids who were of course,
and it was my answer for the kids who are
good at calculus. Well you guys can have that. I'm
good that this. You're good in there, I'll do this. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know who sweats in gym class. My god, man,
what is going on you.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
To get every day?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
They just walk? What he said he I did both?
You did both? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Same?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah? I did not. I did not. The calculus part
was not great. Was not good at that part? What
choice did you have into that yoke?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
None?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
It was not gonna be a whole lot of lenient.
I'm nothing.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
I mean I remember, and I'm glad that they did it.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
In retrospect.

Speaker 8 (11:03):
Remember when I got into emery and everything was great there,
and I was like, all right, it's a last semester.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
I don't want to take all.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
These ap classes.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
I want to do nothing. Yeah, no, you're taking them,
which I'm glad I did because it got me out.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Of a whole year of school.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
So that By the way, this from Adam schefter. Lamar
Jackson didn't practice today due to what head coach John
Harbaugh said is knee soreness. The team does expect him
to practice on Thursday. Yeah, I bet much ado about.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Nothing, duh, that's what we said, I know, duh winning. Yeah,
he'll be He'll be just fine, just fine, He's gonna
be just fine here at this point. I feel like
from their perspective, like they knew once they lost those
games early and they had those injuries, it's almost like
they had to use the word calculus. They had that

(11:51):
in their head of Okay, we can be one in
five and we're fine. It's more important that we get healthy,
yep for this stretch of games than for us to
rush people back. And they even held him an extra week.
They massaged a win after the bye week, which was
a huge They beat the Bears. They beat the Bears,
and it was on a short week for them because
they played Thursday and then they got their back Yeah right,

(12:12):
it was coming off there by against Chicago. But then
they played Thursday night that week and Lamar came back.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, you're right, huh.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
So that was their short week, so they like they
kind of they got him another ten days of rest
between games to be ready and now they can make
it run at it. And you know, as we've said
any times, they they're right in the middle of it.
They are right in the middle of it. I had
a really interesting conversation guy that covers the Bengals this morning,
Mike Petreglia. We were talking about Joe and him not

(12:40):
to play him and all, and he goes, well, like
Joe wants to play, and Joe is of the I
guess with all the injuries, Joe has come back sooner.

Speaker 8 (12:52):
We're gonna have to call him Burrow. He can't be going.
There's another joke. You're gonna have to go Burrow and
Flacco last name is all I feel like Joe Flacco is.
I don't know that I've ever called Joe Flacco anything
other than Joe Flacco. I don't think I've ever called
him Flacco or Joe. He's always Joe Flacco to me.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, even when he was here, I felt like Joe
Burrows typically Jee Burrow most time he is. Yeah, probably
Joe Burrow's Joe Burrow. Yeah, that's probably true. Maybe something
with Joe, I don't know, But anyway, he said that,
you know, he always comes back sooner. They're going to
put this. It's his left foot where the injury is
not the right, so it's not his plant foot, it's
not his drive foot, it's his step foot when he throws.

(13:29):
So there's some a little bit of validity to that
they're gonna put this thing in to protect it. And
he goes, well, let me just ask you this. If
if he wasn't hurt and the record is what it was,
if they were three and nine or whatever, would you
would he be playing? And yeah, you would be, of course.
But with him there is the caveat of he's been

(13:49):
hurt a lot. He's been hurt a lot, and they're
in this spot where you he can't really improve upon
points per game what Flacco's doing. No, that is not
the reason that they are losing. That's what I said
to him. I said, Mike, can he play defensive end safety?
Can Joe Flacco play safety?

Speaker 7 (14:06):
Like?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
What's going to help you? But their big consternation down
there is that that front office did not address safety
because they really have a massive hole in the secondary,
and that they didn't address that. They really haven't addressed
it really since Jesse Bates, Well, I was.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Going to who's pretty darn good for Atlanta him go?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
They just let him go.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
They franchised him one year and then the next year
they were like, we just can't sign him.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Really, Yeah, and Hendricks is not going to play this week,
he's doubtful.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
You think he's in a hurry to come back. No,
I don't have a contract going forward.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
No, and the other thing. And this will dovetail into
I know what we want to talk about here at
the end, a little bit. Al Golden coming in as
defensive coordinator. So in their game last time, they played
against Chicago where they really blew it their defense, their
defensive players didn't know where to line up. And having

(15:07):
talked to people who have worked with Al, that's one
of the things with him is he expects you to know,
have an encyclopedic knowledge of terms, and it's to the
point of almost overkill. It certainly wasn't college. And and
so he's running into that same thing where they're in
their last couple of series against Chicago, needing US stop

(15:27):
and they got guys who don't know how to line
up and it's week twelve. Yeah, So I asked what
I asked Mike is. I said, well, if they don't
fire lou Anaruma, are they better off? And the answer
is yeah, probably nowhere going I don't know Indy.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yes, he's the defensive coordinator in Indy.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
And they're quite good. Yeah, he went from like being
the hot coaching candidate when they went to the Super Bowl,
all of a sudden he can't coach defense. I don't
think it's his problem. Yeah, No, that's a that.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yeah, that's a strange one.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
So there you go on that front. Before we go
to break. This is going around on social and I've
had some correspondence with him same today as well. I
know you have as well. Just our thoughts and prayers
to the great Bernie Kozar, who's it's been a very
tough couple of days for him. He had some major
surgeries and his spirit is infectious. You see it in

(16:22):
the videos. Some of our most fond some of my
most fond memories here are when he comes in when
he would do the segments with us or any of
that stuff. He just pure joy every time we see him,
and just hoping and praying for the best for him.

Speaker 8 (16:36):
I was just doing training campings with him, Yeah, not
that long ago. No, every day was out here and
enamored with how Joe Flacco through the football.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Loved it. That was art.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
Yeah, certainly, everybody keep Bernie and your thoughts and prayers.
We love you, Bernie, and hope that he's you know,
sitting right here sometime soon and talking Browns, talking football.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, just the best, very much, the best, think of
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Speaker 10 (18:16):
Okay, starting the work week, obviously division game at our place,
an opponent you know when you're in the division, second game,
they know you, we know them. Obviously, a couple of
different players on both sides of the ball they have
to get up to speed on. But obviously you have
to play play your best. You got to play your
best football versus a good opponent at our place. So
working real hard this week on all three sides of the ball.

(18:39):
With that, I'll take any questions. Well, I'd say, you know,
some new faces in there, some guys that were injured,
didn't play in our first game, and now we're back moving.
You know, had the trade there, a couple of trades
there on defense, so moving some pieces around, uh, two

(19:01):
different spots, so just evolving.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
I would say if you identified.

Speaker 11 (19:06):
Kevin Moore of the the issues on the coverage units,
study with one there on you guys enough retort.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
And special teams.

Speaker 10 (19:19):
Yeah, we looked at obviously, Jeff, you look at uh
your you look at the scope of your team. Every
single week and certainly, uh, we didn't do a good
enough job in this last ball game. And it's a
major focus of ours and there's we're looking at any
area that we can improve it.

Speaker 7 (19:39):
This is the SA team in the world against the range.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Kind of different starting quarter.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
I think the challenge is is that.

Speaker 9 (19:47):
Is that.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
I think it's it's no different Tony. We talk about
this every week.

Speaker 10 (19:53):
Uh, there's injuries, there's all sorts of things that happen
in a course of a season. And regardless of position,
we trust the guys who are out there to go,
you know, compete through their job and help us win,
help the downs.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
And working quarterback.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Person the finest development and.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Where some of the areas that you guys.

Speaker 10 (20:13):
Yeah, I think with any young player, you're constantly coaching
and teaching, and you know you're teaching off of some
mistakes on film, and you're also saying, hey, this is
really good.

Speaker 7 (20:23):
We're going to lean into.

Speaker 10 (20:24):
This, so that that's a constant dialogue that you're having
with Dylan, with coach musk Grave, with coach Reese in
terms of, hey, this is exactly how it's done. This
is where the read is. I think so often what
happens in football is you prepare quarterbacks and you give
them looks, and you can't give a quarterback every single
look in the course of a given week. Now, with

(20:46):
turns and with reps and with experience, quarterbacks obviously can
lean on those. So with a young quarterback in this
case with Dylan, you just constantly have to give him
as many looks and talk through coverage as much as
you can and when it's when it's there, trusting the
reads and delivering the football. So I think there's some
really good things that continue to go on, and then

(21:06):
we just as an offense obviously have to do our
job all around that position to have success as an offense,
what is the quarter from the quarterback.

Speaker 9 (21:17):
What is on Bobby's blind wide receiver else?

Speaker 10 (21:21):
I think any offense, any defense, any special teams, you
need all eleven on the same page doing their job.
And you know, that's the coach's job, it's it's the
player's job, it's it's all of us. So any success
you're having as a unit is cohesion amongst all those guys.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Coming back to the game to them.

Speaker 9 (21:41):
When the last couple of names top.

Speaker 10 (21:43):
Policy, yeah, looks like himself Obviously, the offense is a
huge challenge with him in there. Just his ability as
a passer, the ability that is running element adds to
their offense.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
They have playmakers throughout the roster.

Speaker 9 (22:03):
What were some of the things that he'd liked about
the time these prom days.

Speaker 10 (22:10):
Yeah, I thought Tommy and I would credit Tommy in
the entire offensive staff. Mary cathought they did a really
nice job in the game, both leading up to the
game and then end game, and some of the conversations
that that they had and some of the adjustments throughout
the game that you're making, whether personnel or scheme or otherwise. Again,
there's you guys will talk to Tommy. There's when I

(22:31):
know this too, there's always calls you want back and
that type of thing. But I thought he did a
real nice job along with the staff and operating whins.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Jerry got involved earlier in the day and cows the.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Season for California was that how.

Speaker 7 (22:47):
Well, like we talked about a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 10 (22:49):
I mean, Jerry's our best wide receivers, he's, you know,
one of our best players on offense. We know that
he's a a guy that we lean on to do
a lot of things. Are the teams that were going
against know that as as you see. So he's a
focal point of of what we want to be.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
Account We'll see.

Speaker 11 (23:09):
A conversations.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
But is playing ability?

Speaker 10 (23:13):
But what is your I guess Pat the philosophy I
double Uh, you know, players accountable for cutical the stakes
and playing well. I think it's important. Uh, we hold
every player accountable for everything we do. I'm accountable for
everything we do. So you just try to be very
open and transparent and honest with your football team. A

(23:36):
lot of that doesn't make it outside this building. And
then that's just kind of part of being a family
as you keep things in house. But our guys understand,
uh that part of the accountability is a shared accountability.

Speaker 7 (23:50):
So it's all of us. Okay, thanks guys.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
All right, there you go, Kevin at the podium. Time
to meet the Ravens. Presented by Vivid Seats, Official Spannings
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on the season, but have won three in a row.
They are second in the AFC North. Their head coach
is John Harbaugh. He is a robust one seventy six
one oh nine in his eighteenth year as the head

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coach of the Baltimore Ravens. They lead the series with
your Cleveland Browns thirty eight to fifteen. Last time out,
it was in early September. They beat US forty one
seventeen in Baltimore. Last time they played, they won in
Minnesota against the Bikes twenty seven to nineteen. Their league
rankings are a little bit deceiving because they haven't had
Lamar Jackson for a lot of this. They are twentieth
in offense, fifth and rushing twenty eighth, in passing defense

(24:38):
twenty sixth, overall twentieth and rushing twenty seventh in passing
turnover differential is even. For more on the Baltimore Ravens,
we turn it over to Duc DIZI. Yeah, Ravens are back.

Speaker 8 (24:49):
They are healthy. This is a team last year that
sent nine players to the Pro Bowl, most in the NFL.
Five on offense, Derek Henry, Lamar Jackson, their center, Tyler Linderbaum,
wide receivers A Flowers and Patrick ro Card the All
World fullback. They've won three in a row. In fact,
the Browns were there before there bye week. The Browns
were the only team that they did beat. They lost
to the Bills forty one to forty. They lost to

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the Lions thirty eight to thirty. They lost to the
Chiefs thirty seven to twenty, the Texans forty four to ten,
and then the Rams seventeen to three. Those last two
are with Cooper Rush at quarterback and then Snoop Huntley
got him win over the Bears. They beat the Miami
Dolphins soundly in Miami and then beat the Minnesota Vikings
soundly in Minnesota. This is three straight road games for
them before they go home and take on the Jets,

(25:32):
the Bengals, and the Steelers in a row. So this
is a team that's looking like they're thinking, man, maybe
we can run off you know, seven straight here.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Now.

Speaker 8 (25:41):
Lamar Jackson just three and two as a starter in Cleveland.
They have not swept the Browns in the season series
since the year twenty twenty. So Browns have done a
good job last year at home. Remember that was the
Jim Donovan game. Jamis Winston with the touchdown to Cedric Tillman,
the winning Kyle Hamilton dropped the interception once twice three
times on particular play. They're not having the most dynamic season. Now,

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Lamar Jackson career high in completion percentage. He's got a
career high in his touchdown percentage right now, ten point two.
That means he's thrown yes, that's right, fifteen touchdowns, one
hundred and forty seven pass attempts, that's crazy, leads the
league with one hundred and twenty seven point one rating,
also a career high for him as well. So lots
of career highs for Lamar Jackson. And he's been play well. Now,

(26:28):
what's interesting about this season for Lamar is it throwing it.
He's as efficient as really he's honestly ever been. It's
just that he's not doing a lot of things that
we associate, you know, with Lamar Jackson, and that is
that comes from the running portion of things. Yeah, and
with his legs, he's averaging his fewest number of yards
rushing per game as well as the fewest number of

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rushing yard attempts per game, despite the fact that he
should be scrambling at a higher rate, by the fact
that he's being under pressure at a higher rate than
ever before, So that I find to be very interesting.
He's scrambling on eight point three percent of his drop
back second lowest of his career, despite being pressured four times,
averaging just five point eight carries and thirty six rushing

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yards a game. Those are the lowest in his career.
Derrick Henry's having a solid season, but not spectacular. Seventy
eight point two yards per game, four point eight yards
per Carrie's got four straight games with seven or more
rushing yards, but hasn't really blown up. This hasn't been
like the Derrick Henry. You know, two hundred yard games
and two touchdowns. You haven't seen really any of that.

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Browns held him to just twenty three yards last time
that they faced Derrek Kenny, which was the lowest of
his season. Zay Flowers is their leading receiver. Mark Andrews
leads them with five receiving touchdowns. It's the guys that
you know, and they've got a good offensive line. They're
solid on offense. They have not been, generally speaking, you know,

(27:54):
a team that has been what you expect did them
to be. But it's all in front of them. It's
all from the one in five start was shocking. They're
trying to be the fifth team in NFL history to
start one in five and make the playoffs. It's actually
happened fairly recently, believe it or not. I was something
that I thought would be not all that familiar. The

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nineteen seventy Bengals, Okay, two and fifteen Chiefs, two thousand
and eighteen Colts and twenty twenty Washington.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Twenty twenty Washington, who would that even be? Twenty and
fifteen Chiefs would be Alex was Alex Smith already there? Yeah,
beacause Kaepernick was already well entrenched in San Francisco at
that point.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
So they.

Speaker 8 (28:42):
They started one in five and then ripped off ten
straight to go eleven and five. This is the Chiefs
in twenty fifteen. Yes, that is Alex Smith is the starter.
Jeremy Macklin is the leading receiver of Kelsey's there, and
Jamal Charles and Sharkandrick West is actually.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
The leading rusher.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
All right, And then he said the twenty twenty said
twenty twenty Rushington Washington, they would be football team that point.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
So they win the division at seven and nine. Oh, okay, okay,
so that's divisions and then dumps and they get in.

Speaker 8 (29:18):
Is that whom Alex Smith?

Speaker 4 (29:20):
That's Alex Smith?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Oh again, after Dwayne Haskins.

Speaker 8 (29:24):
Yeah, Dwayne Haskins goes one in five, Kyle Allen goes
one and three, and then Alex Smith goes five and one.
Terry mclaurin's the leading receiver, Antonio Gibson is the leading rusher.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
And then you had a Colts team in there, didn't you?

Speaker 9 (29:35):
And that was Luck.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
The Colts was Luck. Yeah, that was the twenty eighteen Colts.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Is that what I said?

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Twenty eighteen Colts? Yeah, so that's Luck twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
That one makes sense, but you I would not have
had that that. The other two were both Alex Smith
and they go ten and six. Their only loss was
to the Jags. That lost six nothing to the Jags in.

Speaker 8 (29:57):
December after starting one in five and then ripped off
basically they went to Allway.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah luck.

Speaker 8 (30:03):
That is that the team that lost to Kansas City
in the playoffs. Yeah, they ended up losing to Alex
Smith in that is or eighteen.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
That would be Mahomes already year one Mahomes.

Speaker 8 (30:16):
They lose thirty one to thirteen Mahomes. Yeah, Tyreek Hill,
Oh yeah, all that, but yeah, that was that Colt
st How is that that long ago? I know, Colt
seam had Andrew Luck. T Y Hilton was leading receiver
twelve hundred and seventy yards. Eric Ebron had seven to
fifty the big tight end on North Caroline. I was
drafted by the If I believe the Lions in like
the top ten, yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, and

(30:39):
Marlon Mack was their leading ruster nine hunder and eight
yards and nine touchdowns for Marlon Mack.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
The Andrew Luck retirement is a wild sliding doors.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
We were there, Yeah, you were there when it happened.
It was during our preseason game. But like, if he
doesn't retire, yep, and if he just keeps playing because
he's still.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
In his.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Game, that's it.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
That one that game against Mahomes that was his last game. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, and that year got out during that game that
was on a Saturday. Wasn't it Sunday? Preseason? Yes game
something was a weird weekend game. You guys are over
there at the Three Part Sports Park place.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
McAfee was doing a show on like a picnic table.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Things have changed a little bit.

Speaker 8 (31:20):
Yeah, that last year Andrew Luck went sixty seven point
three percent completions forty five hundred and ninety three yards,
passing thirty nine touchdowns fifteen picks. Uh and he ran
for a career low one hundred and forty eight yards,
but he threw for forty seven hundred, forty six hundred yards.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
He was bombs over beg Dad like it was bomb's
bombs away with him and then does not that's it.
Do you know how old he is right now? I
do you do? Because you looked Gibe, how old do
you think Andrew Luck is right now?

Speaker 12 (31:54):
That would have been right around thirty three? Would guess
thirty five, And he's thirty six. He's thirty six. Yeah,
here's two years younger than Stafford. So it had been
very reasonable for him to just, oh, to be in
the middle of all of this.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, yeah, And it's a wild one because if you
all of a sudden, he's in the AFC as we've
also had Mahomes and Alan and Lamar and everything else.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
So I remember that preseason game was on a Friday night?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Was it Friday night?

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Because we had been there all week?

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:26):
I knew that, and I had driven myself there that way.
I could get everybody to and from right because we
were downtown, and you knew that you're way north, correct,
and we always get left on joint practices. So I
had driven, I had an SUV, so I stayed Friday
night after the game, I stayed and my good friend,

(32:51):
our good friend, Laura Chapnick, NFL producer extraordinary, was like, hey,
are you in town. I'm like yeah. She's like, are
you seeing all this? And I'm like, what are you
talking about?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:05):
That was well.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
He had to leave the game. They'd have that press
conference during like right after or during the game to
announce it. He was booed, he was booding, which is crazy.
And then he continued to live there until recently. Nobody
heard from him for years, and then I think one
of the sports illustrator ESPN guy's got in touch to
touch with him and talked about how he still drives
by the facility every day. Now he's the general manager

(33:27):
of Stanford football, Yeah, which is crazy.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Then they have an interim coach and I have no
idea who they're going to hire for that program.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
That's that's one of those jobs in the If I
were Andrew Luckett Stanford and we have college football Nate
coming up, baby, I would I would say, you see
what Vanderbilt did. That's what we're doing, yep. And I
would take your multi billion dollar endowment and I would
take set aside about fifty million bucks and say we're
going to be We're gonna get good at football in
a hurry. Where are they? What do you mean, Palo Alto?

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What's too easy? Maybe?

Speaker 5 (33:59):
What made conference? Are they in?

Speaker 13 (34:01):
Now?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
They're in the ACC Bud, It's a huge mistake that.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
The Big Ten did not take Stanford and Cal.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
It's a I don't think it's a It doesn't hurt
the Big ten to have not taken them, but they
should have. They should have taken them. Big Ten's fine,
but like they they should have taken them both, and
then it wouldn't you wouldn't be in the position that
you're in where you have the basketball coach at UCLA,
the coaches at Washington going like this is untenable, like

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we can't.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
You really should have just had the whole Pack ten
come into them.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah. Yeah, they should have just kept those and they
could have ran. Here's a wild lady. And I said this,
I don't know a thousand times in Columbus. Just take
all of the Pac twelve and all of the big ten,
Pack ten, big ten wherever you want the numbers to
be twelve and twelve. However, you wanted to split and
then just play the championship game at the Rose Bowl
and then you have some sense of tradition that's still there,
by the way, did you I don't know if you

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have this in college football?

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Nada should I don't. I saw it. You know where
I'm going put it together?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Okay, So UCLA's not gonna play the Rose Bowl anymore
as their stadium.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, why not.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
They're going to SOFI. So they played in their Pasadena
they've put oh my god, they've played in the Rosewolt
since nineteen seventy two. Okay, before that they played at
the Coliseum. So then they played at Rosewolves since seventy two.
So they're moving to SOFI. It's basically half the distance
from their campus. Instead of twenty five miles, it's twelve,

(35:24):
which is fair.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Maybe they're maybe their student body will actually make it
to a game.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, But at the same time, like Ohio State plays
Ucla on Saturday, the spread is thirty two and a half.
This is UCLA, Like they're not sc I know what
ucl is. I know, I'm well read on this, But
like the idea that UCLA is playing in Columbus on
Saturday is thirty two and a half. That is a
bigger line than Ohio State had against Ohio.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
DTR is not walking through that door, Kate mcdowne either.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
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downs with college football, Nate and your uncle Bo. Hello Gibbey, gentlemen,
how are you good?

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Hey? So Sofi going back to the UCLA. They just
offer him a ton of money or did you know
reach out to Sofa?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Ucla reached out. Pasadena's suing him for like a billion dollars.
Here's the thing. Here's the crazy thing though, Like there
isn't anything else that's housed at the Rose Bowl. So
to me, it would open up like just kind of like, well,
what are we doing with this thing then? Which would suck?
Have you guys been to the Rose Bowl?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
It's as if God created a place to play football.
It's what it is. And the reason they do that
kick time the way that they do is so that
the sun hits the San Gabriels as it's setting all
of that. It's whatever you think it is on TV,
it's times a billion when you're there, it really is.
It's yes, but stunning. It also makes no damn sense
that it's UCLA's home stadium. Like to be to defend

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them a little bit it's twenty six miles in southern California,
so that can be an hour plus easy depending on
what's happening with those freeways. So that doesn't make a
whole lot of sense either. So, but it would suck
if it goes away because I don't know how you
maintain it for one game a year. Yeah, I mean,
how do you maintain a football stadium for one game

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a year?

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, because you're not.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
LAFC, they've all got their own stadium.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, everyone's got their own. And in the old days
of the like the original BCS, they would play the
Rose Bowl and then sometimes they would also play the
National Championship Game. We'll come back, it would come back,
so you'd play like the Rose Bowl game and the
National Championship maybe seven days later at the Rose Bowl.
Well that's over. And the way the College Football Playoff
Committee's doing stuff is they're taking bids on the championship game.

(38:41):
So like it's in I think it's Miami this year,
it's going to be in so Fi. There's one year
it's in Vegas. Like they're taking whoever wants to offer
the most. So they're treating it like the NFL does
with the.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Super Bowl, and maybe we'll be in contention for that.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Boy, that'd be something. Huh By's playing for anational title here,
that'd be all right, yep, all right.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Time for four downs with college football. Nate kep hit it.
First down, Your Indiana make the case that you deserve
to be ranked ahead of Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
No, we we have a better win than they do.
I reject it. I would too, but I mean you
would say our win at Oregon is better than your
best win, which is Texas at home. That's that's the
That's that's what you'd say. If you didn't watch football,
that's what you would say.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
And then you'd be like, well, you know as they
said that.

Speaker 9 (39:32):
He was asked.

Speaker 8 (39:33):
Their coach, Signetty was asked before the Penn State game
like they had not won in Penn State.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
And they never Indiana has never won in state. And
he was like, yeah, well that.

Speaker 8 (39:45):
Wasn't this team. This team is and we're gonna go
win and they did so I think he would say,
you're talking about all I say, but this is they
haven't played this Indiana team were better.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, that's what you'd say. There's no case we made.
This is here's anyone make a case. Yeah, the case
that I just made is the case you would make.
You would say that as this they are undefeated, Ohio States, undefeated,
Texas A, and M's undefeated. Of those three teams, the
most impressive win that anybody has is them going to
Eugene and beating Oregon. Yep, that's what you would say. Yep.
But you also have to watch the and they're really good.

(40:19):
I'm not besmirching them. They're very good, and they're very
worthy of being ranked second or third or whatever. But
that would you can make the case, and that's the
case you make.

Speaker 8 (40:29):
If everybody on both rosters was draft eligible. Sure, Mendoza
is going to get picked. They have a receiver, Serrat,
there's a couple of defensive players, it would be Mendoza.
And I can think of everybody's draft eligible. So saying
so eligible, Jeremiah draft eligible and at least eight Buckeyes

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before they pick another.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Indiana, I think that's fair.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
And I don't think you would take Fernando Mendoza head
of Julian saying oh you wouldn't, but I'm saying he
would be He's their highest drafted.

Speaker 8 (41:02):
A hundred percent yeah, Yeah, and there are eight Buckeyes
in before you'd pick another.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Yeah, regardless of the order, he probably would go.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
I mean, who knows. I people don't like when I
do this, but to me, with college football, because it's
entirely subjective and nobody plays the same schedules and all
of this, I always think about, like, what would the
line be, buckket so well, yes, So there is a
hypothetical line out there that for Ohio State Indiana in
the Big Ten Championship game, and it's Buckeyes five and
a half. So that's a pretty respectable line for Indiana

(41:33):
that it's only five and a half. And that tells
you how good Indiana is because I think Ohio State
would be favored by at least three and a half
by everybody in the country. They'd be favored by three
and a half at Alabama, at A and M Georgia,
all of it would all be minimum of three and
a half. So they're in that vicinity. Because Ohio State
versus either Oregon or Notre Dame, I want to say
Notre Dame was nine and Oregon was nine and a half.

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So they that they're giving in the Indiana is good.
That Eve and a half. That's very respectable. About the
only teams in the country that would be smaller dogs
to the Buckeyes would probably be Alabama and Georgia, maybe
Texas a Anda.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Where's Big Ten Championship game this year? Indy back in Indy? Yeah, good, yep.
Now that could end up being in Indiana home game.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Now, Buckeyes haven't played over there since twenty twenty. Now,
if they were going to get they were to get
over the hump this year. Finally, if they do the
if they finally do what's it's been a long time coming.
I don't like talking about it, but if they do,
then I think you will see a scarlet C in
Indianapolis for that game.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
All right?

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Next second down?

Speaker 4 (42:44):
All right, I'm flipping second and third down because this
one correlates with this. Did Gus Johnson's call of Saturday's
Indiana Penn State Classic actually ruin the game?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
No, it's absurd. It didn't ruin the game? Did it
enhance the game?

Speaker 8 (42:58):
Is it a shame that we're sitting here talking about
Gus Johnson instead of talking about the incredible catch by
the wide receiver or Mendoza leading them down the field.
Their season kind of on the brink all of those things. Yes,
that is a shame and it's absurd. I would listened
to it.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
It was absurd.

Speaker 8 (43:16):
It was absurd, and he I think, you know, it's
one of those things where I think for Gus Johnson,
it's very hard because what kind of put him on
the map.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Years and years and years ago was.

Speaker 8 (43:31):
You know that he did have that emotion and that
passion and that it was exciting and he would enhance
a moment with his calls. But I think when it
becomes year after a year of that, and you subconsciously,
I would guess, as Gus Johnson, that becomes more like
your stick, and so you're keep you keep ratcheting it
and ratcheting it, and you maybe don't even realize you're

(43:52):
ratcheting it to the point where it now it becomes.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
It's it's absurd. He got the job because of my
March madness and how he called March Madness games. That's
how he got the job at Fox ha ha Right,
all that that's like twenty years ago.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah. Yeah, he was the.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Voice of the Brown season of Dreams two thousand and seven.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, Yeah, he had like he had all those yeah, Yeah,
he's a great dude.

Speaker 7 (44:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I mean I think also too, like he has had
to call a bunch of garbage games, so when he
gets a good one, he really ratcheted. Because the big
that big noon kick, you're stuck. You can't ever put
Oregon there, you can't put usc there, you can't put
West Coast teams there. It's so limited what you can put.
So like they take the Buckeyes a lot, Like, don't

(44:46):
be shocked if next week Ohio State Rutgers is noon,
You go, why would they ever do that as big noon?
Because the Buckeyes rate.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
And Rutgers is the New York market, right, well.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's the Buckeyes, and so what like if you're if
your Gus, you're gonna call a game where Ohio State's
a thirty plus point favorite and you're so like when
you finally get one, you're all in. I will say, though,
like my kids revere him because of the world famous
Ohio State Buckeyes, like they that's for them. That's my

(45:16):
on the banks of the old tangy Keith Jackson, right.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
And and I like Gus you know much, And I
think there are times where not every play it has
to be a home run call.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
It happened to tests. Yeah, when we had tests in here.
I love tests. But he's built for college football Saturday night. Yeah,
Monday night football isn't always why.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
He does Monday night raw, Right, He's built. That's he's
probably great at that.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I'm sure he's okay, it's fine, but like he's really
good on on college football Saturday night. That's who he is. Yeah, yeah,
I think Johnson is awesome.

Speaker 8 (45:54):
Yeah yeah, but like I think he started to get
into you know what, he was calling Marvin Harrison junior
maserati marv.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
And yeah, that was like he does that with the
Buckeye guys because he has so many games, Like he's
calling Julian saying I think j Coole or something like that,
and I've never heard anybody in Columbus calling that. He
I think he just makes up. I just seen if
it takes off, nobody called Marvin Harrison maserati marv.

Speaker 8 (46:17):
It's just unfortunate to me that because I do think
us Johnson is excellent, but that this was so kind
of over the top that that's what people are talking about.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
I mean to think about it's Wednesday.

Speaker 8 (46:27):
There's an awful announcing article about now people are coming
out of the woodwork to slam them, which I hate.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 8 (46:31):
And they're like always jumped the shark. So many times
it's like, might as well be Sea World with all
his like over the top theatrics, and you know, I
have it.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I think he doesn't get a lot of great games,
and so when he has one, he shifts it into
fifth without taking the progression. I also think you just
don't realize when you have a stick.

Speaker 8 (46:48):
Yeah I'm not saying it is just a stick, but
it feels like a little bit of one then and
then you know that's my calling card. You ramp it
up beyond what became your calling card subconsciously.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Perfectly a perfect example of what you just described. I think,
and I love him, Revere him is nance sometimes at
the end of the Final four, where he would force
those lines that felt he does it at the Masters.
Sometimes it's like, oh, that was probably a bridge too far, Jim,
Like you're the greatest, but that was probably a little
too much. So I do think you become a prisoner
of all that, you know, right, because people there's an

(47:22):
expectation that you're going to do.

Speaker 8 (47:23):
There's an expectation that if you listen to a Gus
Johnson game, he's going to be like going balkers.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, next.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
Turned down.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
The Big Ten will end up factor fiction. The Big
Ten will end up with only three teams making the
College Football Playoff.

Speaker 8 (47:40):
I think that's right, and it's you know, it's funny.
I'm looking at the most recent bracket and the fact
that you got to get some of these teams in
here is just ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
I know that.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
I mean, and maybe I'm wrong that, but like, and
the most recent one, South Florida is in.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, group of five, you have but one group of five.
What's the point it's to avoid litigation? I saw it is,
you know, to avoid ana trust.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
So maybe a group of five team gets into like
a play in game like they do in the termin
now they play in games and like they don't get
to play in and they're not gonna make it.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I don't know, it just.

Speaker 8 (48:24):
It's tough. Yeah, I think that that's exactly right, because
it just feels.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Like there's.

Speaker 8 (48:31):
Too far given that teams have to be in that
aren't in the top twelve to get USC or Michigan
up there.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
All right, So here's the scenario how they get four.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
Michigan beats Ohouse safe right.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Here's the scenario how they get four. I'm gonna pretend
you didn't say that. Okay, Iowa, I'm sorry. USC plays
Iowa this week. Iowa was currently they kept Iowa in
the poll. That's really important. Iowa lost to be lost
Oregon on the last play of the game this past weekend,
or twenty first in Iowa. They raked twenty first, but
they were twentieth. They only drop one spot with a loss.

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That's important. USC plays Iowa this week. Okay, if they
beat Iowa, that's another nice data point for USC. Okay,
USC then plays Oregon. If USC plays Oregon, that would
be Oregon's second loss. It would be USC's second loss.
There is going to be massive carnage in the Big ten.
So for example, I think ten and eleven this week

(49:28):
are Texas and Oklahoma. Texas plays Georgia this week at Georgia.
Oklahoma plays at Alabama. So both of those teams are
going to be jettisoned out. So that's three losses for
each of them. They're cooked, you are not. So then
it becomes if USC wins out at ten and two,
Oregon loses a close game to USC and they're ten
and two. I think both of those teams would get in,

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in addition to Ohio State in Indiana. The other scenario
is one I don't really want to say out loud.
I'll forgive you because I love you, and it's fine,
But that is the other one. So those are the
two scenarios.

Speaker 8 (50:00):
Who cares, It doesn't even stop you for winning a
national championship, but we proved that.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Just a year ago.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Nope, we're not going to deal with that on Nope.

Speaker 8 (50:10):
It's not you asked for a scenario. College Nate's not
here for people's feelings. College football Nates here and tell
you how it is.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I think that those are the two scenarios how the
Big Ten gets four, and I don't think it's that
far fetched because the NFCC is going to cannibalize itself.
The two SEC teams that I feel best about other
than the undefeated one losses are ole Miss, which ole
Miss is going to host a playoff game like that's happening,
and Vanderbilt. They love them still, they kept them there
for two losses. They don't really have a win that

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you look at and go, that's great. Okay, But they
kept Tennessee ranked. They keep Tennessee ranked. God knows why.
They have nothing on their resume, but they keep them ranked.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
And so they get they got Kentucky and Tennessee. And
as the rest of the SEC starts to take on losses,
and they are all good because they play each other.
That's how that's that could be your Your other SEC
team could be Vanderbilt.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
So next fourth down, all right, we'll go a little
rapid fire because I might have two bonus ones as well.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Part one?

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Should the College Football Playoff Committee award the a SEC
only one bid to the College Football Playoff?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Part two unless somebody is deserving of it.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Part two? Instead of basing the bid on a team's record,
should the committee just roll with the best student experience
is the criteria? Since all these teams suck in football?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
What are you now? We're gonna now we're gonna judge
student experience?

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Hold on, well, you know what I'm talking about. When
it comes to the.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Student experience, I do yeah, no, no, no, give it.

Speaker 6 (51:52):
I do not.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Would you if you had to? You're I'm assuming it's
Florida State or Miami for you.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Those are both great. I don't know if they still are.
I did see the story this week in one of
the publications here in the state that Ohio university and
college enrollment was down seventeen percent year to year and
much more than that over a ten year period because
all these kids are going south. They're all going south
to college, They're all going to places ard Andres going south. Yeah,

(52:22):
she's going south. It's going I mean, all these kids
in our town are headed south, like they want to
go someplace warm. They don't want to deal with it.
So yeah, it's and I think all of those experiences
going to those a lot of those campuses I've been to,
you get it, like, it's pretty great to not have
to deal with winter. It's a wind.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Yeah, yeah, real quick. Bonus Part one. You need one
quarterback to win your game, Indiana's Fernando Mendoza or Alabama's
Tye Senson.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Fernando first all, it's fun to say. Second, well, I
just watched him do it.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, I mean he's pretty clutch. He's I don't, you know,
like either one. I don't love them. I like saying
better than either one.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
But if yeah, this are.

Speaker 8 (53:00):
Gonna be the top two quarterbacks taken in this draft.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
They are. Yeah, I would probably go Mendoza right now,
just because I've seen him do it most recently and
I saw him go win at Oregon. But what Alabama
has done from a schedule standpoint this year since that
Week one loss is utterly insane. This is their this
is their stretch of game. So they lost to Florida
State in the opener, then U Elman Roe, Okay, fine,

(53:22):
Then they played Wisconsin, Georgia, Vanderbilt, Missouri, Tennessee, South Carolina, LSU, Oklahoma.
That's their eight game stretch. They've won every one. They
play Oklahoma this weekend, and they get Eastern Illinois before
playing Auburn, and then they're gonna play in the SEC
title game, probably against an m the only one I

(53:43):
always forget that Cubcake. They always do it. It's just smart.
The Big Ten should do it too, instead of playing
Ohio and Grambling back to back. Put one of them
right before Michigan.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Yeah, like, why just do it?

Speaker 2 (53:54):
It's easy?

Speaker 6 (53:57):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
Bonus Park two Factor fiction, the Kent State Golden Flashes,
winners of the Wagon Wheel, and last night's rivalry win
over Akron will finish the season six and six and
get a bull bid. They're four and six home versus
five and four Central Michigan and two and at two
and seven Northern Illinois.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Yes they will.

Speaker 8 (54:17):
The Chippewas are tough, but they're gonna get it done
and then they'll go. It was in Northern Illinois that
like the.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
Husky Yeah, brutal.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
I'm gonna I'm gonna say fiction because Kent State football
can't have nice things? Sorry, j Man, No, I say
fag g man, I do have a problem. I think
I think wagon wheel is an awesome nickname for a
rivalry that's really cool. That hurt me that they won't
make it that for you feel that way that you
can't have nice things, or that the wagon wheels a
man college football mates said it's done?

Speaker 13 (54:48):
Can I sneak in a third bonus?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (54:50):
Are there really twenty five teams in this country in
the FBS that are better than North Dakota State?

Speaker 8 (54:56):
Four?

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Yeah? I think so. I don't think so. Like the
beloved Bobcats are ranked third in that poll, and they
usually play They usually play play Northcota State very close.
They usually play for a national championship. I think their second,
their third, Montana is second for weeks. All right, I'll
get it in here for him. Here's my this is
my reason for it. So just depth of talent. Right,

(55:21):
North Kota State undefeated, They've won the FBS a bunch
of times. Montana State, who is a rival of theirs,
plays them very closely, very similar talent wise. Montana's State
played at Oregon week one and lost fifty nine to thirteen.
It's like, okay, yeah, it's the depth of talent. It's
just it's usually in the trenches. You just don't have
the trench warfare for it. Join us in Huntington Big

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Welcome back to then Browns Daily, brought you by bally Bet,
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to be joined by Jerry, Judy Brown's Pro Bowl wide
receiver and Jerry coming on for last week. Obviously not
the result that you guys wanted, but it felt like
we got a little bit going in the passing game.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
And do you think that's something we can build on?

Speaker 6 (56:39):
Uh? Yeah, of course, you know, clearly we didn't had
the gain that we expected to have, but you know,
I feel like we studied progressing, steady, improving, you know,
and that's all we could ask for, you know, and
hopefully we come out victorious next week.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
It felt like there was an emphasis to get you
the ball, get you going.

Speaker 8 (56:57):
I've kind of liken it a lot of times to
a score in basketball, right, get him the ball, let
him see the ball go through the net early, get
him in the rhythm. This game twelve targets he had,
season nine catches and yards, had the touchdown as well.
Did you feel like that was something the time he
rees wanted to do and you guys were able to
execute it.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
Yeah, that son Tommy was emphasizing during the week and
just getting me involved, getting.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Me going, you know, in the first half of the game.

Speaker 6 (57:18):
And I think he did a great job of just
getting getting me involved, you know, and didn't just did
a good job giving me opportunities to make plays.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Is that Do I have that right?

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Though?

Speaker 8 (57:29):
Like as a receiver, is it important to kind of
get the ball early to kind of get into that
rhythm because I'd imagine, you know, for New England, for example,
I don't think you got to target until either late
third quarter or probably fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
That's got to be hard, right.

Speaker 6 (57:41):
Yeah, you know, especially as a receiver. You know that
just another way is to get you going. You know,
as a receiver, you just want to you want to catch,
just to get the momentum to fill it the game going,
you know it. You know it's difficult sometime just being
able to get a catch in the fourth quarter instead
of the first half, you know, but you know, we
did a good job this week, can get me early.

Speaker 7 (58:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
And something I noticed, and I don't know if it
was just in my mind, I feel like I noticed it,
but it felt like there were a lot of kind
of late motions with you. Got you in the slot,
was able to get you a free release where you
were able to kind of use your route running to
create big separation and hit on some of those plays.

Speaker 6 (58:15):
Yeah, I think Tommy did a good job of that.
Just moved me around and put me on opportunity to
went out went on one matchup, you know, just moving
me to the slot, moving me outside, you know, just
just so the defene have a tell on where I'm
out on the field.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
You know, I think we did a good job of that.

Speaker 8 (58:33):
There's still eight games left, right, there's still a long
a lot of time to kind of get this offense
going where you guys wanted. Have you seen kind of
incremental stuff in practice that let's feel like, okay, yeah,
we're on the right path here.

Speaker 6 (58:44):
Uh yeah, you know, just I think we just been
doing a good job overall and just put a little
bit more emphasis in focus on the details of our
play calling in the plays, you know, and I think
everybody just grab ited to that and really just locked
locked in and ready to be the best version of
their self this week.

Speaker 8 (59:05):
All right, opportunity to get back home, get in front
of the home crowd, take on the Baltimore Ravens. See
we've already seen once this year. You know, they're trying
to kind of get back into it in our division
as well. What have you kind of seen as you've
prepared for them, anything change from maybe what you saw
that they were doing early in the season.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
Yeah, I think they just moved caught Hammelton a little
bit more down to the nickel and just brought number
twelve in. You know, they they've been playing a lot
better now than they was in beginning to see them.
So you know, we just got to take advantage of
their mistakes, you know, and just be on on our game.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
What do you kind of hope to accomplish?

Speaker 8 (59:41):
Obviously from a team standpoint, it's went out right individually,
what do you want to kind of get going over
these final eight games?

Speaker 5 (59:46):
And you know, build off of last week.

Speaker 6 (59:48):
I just want to keep the momentum going, you know, Uh,
you know, had a decent game last week.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
You know, hopefully I'll just you.

Speaker 6 (59:54):
Know, uh, you know, keep it going from from there,
you know, and have a big games up coming a week.

Speaker 8 (01:00:00):
Absolutely, Jarre, it's always a pleasure talking to you man,
looking forward to getting you back out there in front
of the home fans. Keep this o, madam, going another touchdown,
we get one hundred yard game and get rolling here
on this offense.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Yes, sir, thank you?

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a little segment we call Guess the scores. It's week
eleven of the NFL season. You're undefeated, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
So are we are?

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
We I've already won the season. So are we going
to change it up this week?

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
And we're giving this We're giving this thing one more
week before we make change last week before I've done
this new thing that listener gave you. So we'll see
this thing we said, we are going to give it
a two week trial.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
All right, Well, he's undefeated. Let's start on Thursday eight football.
It is the New York Football Jets at the New
England Patriots on Amazon Prime. Al Kirk and Kaylee Hartung
on the call Jets at Patriots.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
At one point in the game, is Al Michael's just angry?

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I think al so it's in New England. He loves
Bob Craft. I think he'll be okay, Boston's good food scene.
Yeah yea, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I think he'll be
just fine. I know this isn't one that will get him.
I think it's New York it's Boston, it's Bob Craft.
I think I think Al's in a good, good, good
headspace for this one. Patriots minus fourteen get it thirteen

(01:02:48):
and a half. Two weeks, Drill Sergeant number two. We
are headed to La a La Madrid. Commi's at Dolphins
the San Diego barnabayow, he knows the tune. It's the coolest.
Your kid's never made it there?

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
Right?

Speaker 8 (01:03:05):
They never actually got to should they ever get to play?

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
What was he yelling?

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
He's angry?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
What is he gonna like the Burnabael? What's his problem?
What's your problem?

Speaker 13 (01:03:15):
I had to listen for two weeks to every real
Madrid fans say, oh, remontara, remona, remona ninety minutes at
the Burnabao's a long time? And then bekay Osaka stuck
a dagger in your heart's come on you gunners.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
I didn't know where about.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
They're probably drowning their tears and all their Champions League trophies,
so I think they're probably okay. Yes, in Madrids they're
probably okay. Did your kids ever actually make it? I
know that was the whole They never they never beat me.
I think one of them played me there only, but
they never beat me there at the Bernabeo. And then
when I never lost, never lost that that gold song

(01:03:53):
is amazing. I would this is one like if if
we were doing Dolphins daily, I'd have been lobbying to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Go to go to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Yeah, in Madrid. That's right, that's pretty good. That's Dolphins
minus three, got it? Dolphins minus two and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
By the way, how is it the Kenny Albert Jonathan
Willma get to go to all these They've been to London,
They've been to Madrid. I think they went. Did they
do it Germany game? No, there was already one Germany game?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Didn't they do comies last week too? They might have
because didn't wasn't that when the President went in and
wasn't it Alma doing the six seventh thing? And all
that was all surreal?

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
One o'clock Back here state side. Panthers at Falcons. Jason
Bennetti Brady Quinn now who's pulling double duty, says big
noon that he does the NFL on on Sunday. Mark
Sanchez not retained, No kidding, huh? That is Panthers at
Falcons Falcons minus three?

Speaker 9 (01:04:58):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
This is too easy at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
We got it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
You're gonna have to be. You're going to be exactly
what was the Falcons Lin Who's three and a half?
Buccaneers at Bill's eron Eagle, JJ Watt, Evan Washburn.

Speaker 8 (01:05:09):
So I think this one's a little tougher. This feels
Vegas zone to be Bill's minus five.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Bills minus five and a half.

Speaker 9 (01:05:17):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, you're so confident right now in this you have
this primed Texans. The other thing about this, just for
the audience, when you do this every week, then you
can pick up on start to get a feel the
patterns of how this stuff goes. So your intellect coupled
with that adds to all of this. Texans at Titans.

Speaker 8 (01:05:37):
I'm gonna get this one right because you said that's
tex ex Lin Titans.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Texans minus seven.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Chris Meyer's, Mark Schlereth and Jen Hale Texans minus six
and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
Ruined this segment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
It's the half the half point that's it's Yeah, Bears
Bears at Vikings, Bears at Vikings, Fox eighteen for this, Yeah, Burkert,
Brady Andrews Ronaldi. What do you think this should be?

Speaker 8 (01:06:11):
If you I don't know it's either gonna be I'm
gonna tell you right now if I if I'm gonna
can say I would have either one of these teams
minus two. I don't know which one. So I think
if I, if I guess, I have a fifty percent
chance of getting it right. So I'm just gonna go
with the home team. And I'm say Vikings minus two.
And though I probably think it maybe should Bears minus two.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
It's Vikings minus three and a half. So wrong, didn't
have it? That feels big to me.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
Didn't have that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I don't think that doesn't seem right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I don't know if you watch.

Speaker 8 (01:06:36):
That's why I thought one, because they've done a lot
of one and a half's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Yeah, so that's why I didn't. I thought one and
a half was more likely than three and a half. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:06:45):
In fact, I'm stunned that it's three and a half,
given how bad the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Vikings have been. Yeah, Packers at g Man.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
Packers minus seven.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Drew Brees, He's back, Yeah, your deal with Fox?

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
And he's like, when is this right away?

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
They fired Sanchez Ohn Quinn.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
What's Quinn doing that? He replays Sanchez?

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
He may have in those games, and but Breeze is
going to be kind of brought up because ultimate replacement.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Quinn's doing the Benetti game. That was the Sanchez, wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Yeah, I wonder if i'll tell you because Fox has
an extra game with the Madrid game that could be
and that's why Quinn's doing double duty.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
I'll tell you this. That takes. That's a that's humility
for Breeze. When he retired, he was which what did
they give him? It was a team of something. Yeah,
that was not good and it didn't go quit bad,
So he went away for a while. Now he's willing
to work his way back up because that's I mean,
that's that like the fourth team. Yeah, it's a little

(01:07:43):
Fox for the fourth team.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
Yeah, a little lower profile.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
All right, Sorry, you got that. Packers seven, seven and
a half.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Good job.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Bengals at Steelers Kevin Harlan Green, Melanie Collins Steelers minus three,
Steelers minus five and a half. What I don't see that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
I'm not crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
I'm not crazy about that line.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
That's a bit.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
It feels very large.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
The loss. As beat them, They beat them in Cincinnati
like three weeks ago and like a crazy shootout, crazy
Thursday night Yeah, it was. It was Flacco Black. It
was greatness. And I want to think Jamar had like
was that like his thirteen for one ninety Yeah, big
twenty target, big thing, very bigly of him. Uh, Chargers

(01:08:35):
at Jacksonville A Spirodiitis, Anna ma Archi, Letta make a
get happy here.

Speaker 8 (01:08:41):
I could get on a little bit of a streak.
Hair of not good.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
By the way, do you think Jacksonville will ever get right?

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
With Trevor Lawrence now they have all these injuries. No,
it doesn't feel like it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:08:55):
I originally wrote three, and I'm like, that doesn't feel
big enough. I'm gonna go Chargers minus.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Five, Chargers minus two and a half should have stayed
at three, two and a half, six and three. Gear
Bay maybe back to the kids. Back, We're back, We're back,
all right. We are in the afternoon window. Now, this
is the game if I if there's one game to watch,
number one, this is mine. This is the one game
I'm watching this weekend. If it's this one other than ours,
it is Seahawks at Rams. Joe Davis, Greg Olsen and

(01:09:21):
Pam Oliver. How is this not eighteen? Why in the
heck with Brady eat.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
They don't want it to go ahead with nance, Romo,
Chiefs Broncos.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
This is the best game, of course it is. This
is the best game.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Yes it is.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
Here's my question.

Speaker 8 (01:09:35):
I would bump Raiders Cowboys off on Monday night for
Seahawks Rams on Monday night.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Why is that not flexed?

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Can it be flex now?

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Yeah, you can flex anything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
They must have said. No, why would you not take
that Seahawks at Rams?

Speaker 9 (01:09:47):
You know why?

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
Because Dallas rates through the roof of no mat or
what they play every week. That's why, I mean, the
worst stuck to watch.

Speaker 8 (01:09:55):
You get from Seahawks Rams, Chiefs, Broncos, Lions, Eagles. That
is a pretty good stretch to end your Sunday one o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Who's getting our game? Baltimore in the state of Ohio. Yeah,
probably not even all no, no, no, probably just Baltimore
in Cleveland, probably because Cincinnati's at Pittsburgh, so Columbus will
take that one. If they're on different air let me
see at one they're at one. Yeah, they're both CBS,
so Columbus will take Cincinnati Pittsburgh. So probably just in
Cleveland and just in Baltimore will take our explicable Ramits

(01:10:28):
Rams minus three got it three and a half, three
and a half. Ooh, and I had written two and
I was like, you know what, some of these are
bigger than I'm thinking.

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
That's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
I got that right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Forty change my mine.

Speaker 7 (01:10:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
I used to love when Boots he would do that
when he was little. She beats by forty nine Ers
at Cardinals, Kevin Coogler, Darryl Johnson, Allison Williams on the call.
Niners at cards No, Marvin Harrison for this one minus four,
Niners minus two and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
That's stayed with three. So that when I wrote three
on that one, that one cost me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Ravens at us Andrew Cattle on Charles Davis. So we're
gonna see Charles. That's love see at him.

Speaker 9 (01:11:12):
That's very.

Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
Ravens minus eight yep, Ravens minus eight.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
And a half, and that's a winner. Chiefs at Broncos
Nance Romo and Tracy Wolfson.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
On the call for this one, Chiefs of Broncos Chiefs
minus two.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Chiefs minus three and a half should have stayed on
the three. They love three and a half. This year
they love it, man, I feel like you co just
say three every time you get two and a half
or three and a half. All right, we're in primetime now,
Sunday Night football. I wish the Eagles are more aesthetically pleasing,
because I think this is a fascinating day. He wants out.
It'd be interesting to see if Detroit can impose their

(01:11:51):
style on Philly. But it's Detroit at Philly. Trico collins
Worth and Melissa Stark.

Speaker 8 (01:12:01):
I think the Lions should be favored, I really do.
I don't know that they are going to be favored,
So this feels like I should probably take Eagles minus three,
which I'll do, but I think the line should be favored.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
I agree with you. You did the wise thing. You've
chosen wisely. I think the words the Old Man in
the Last Crusade. It is indeed Eagles minus two and
a half. Okay, so another duve. Why can't you just
be a pick them? Why can't we have pick thems anything?
They're allergic to them. They're allergic. They don't do whole
numbers anymore. There's no three, there's no there used to be.
So minus minus six, yeah, all the time, minus seven,

(01:12:34):
minus four, minus three, pick them, none of it.

Speaker 8 (01:12:37):
It's all They clearly have deduced that they make more
money by having no.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Pushes, by doing winners and losers. Yeah, even when they lose.
Raiders at Cowboys, Raiders at Cowboys. This could go in
any number of ways. Raiders and Cowboys, Cowboys minus six,
Cowboys minus three and a half, which is weird to me,

(01:13:02):
but another win for you nine and six.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Good job.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
That's some interesting games. I'd love Seattle at Rams, Yeah,
I think. I think Lions and Eagles is kind of fun.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
I like watching Buccaneers and Bills.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
By the way, this could be if the Broncos win
this game, Chiefs could be in trouble, buddy, real trouble.

Speaker 8 (01:13:22):
So you know, we talk all the time about Ravens, Bills,
and Chiefs all you know, their teams that can win
the Super Bowl. If the playoffs were to day, the
Chiefs nor the race, Neither the Chiefs nor the Ravens
are in now. The Ravens, I think, will ultimately get
in by winning their division. The Chiefs then would just
have to displace the Jacks. So it's not that unlikely.

(01:13:45):
But if the Chiefs keep losing, it's not a guarantee either.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
They are going to get to a point because they can't.
They're not going to win that division. There's just too
much ground to make up. So I don't think they're
going to win the division, catching both the Chargers and
the Broncos, and there's more losses for the chief schedule
still is it's more robust than Baltimore's.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
So they go at Denver home Colts off of the
Colts by Is the following week.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Yep, put this thing out there.

Speaker 8 (01:14:21):
At Cowboys home, Texans home, Chargers at Titans home, Broncos
at Raiders. So Titans Raiders feels pretty good for them
down the stretch. So they're five and four. So let's
say they split with Denver, they split the we'll call
it the Colts and Chargers, even though they maybe sweep those,

(01:14:44):
so that would be SI and then they should they
should win the rest, Yeah, they should be, So they'd
be seven and six.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
They're probably due to lose one. They're not expect them
to seven ten and seven, But I don't think that's
enough to win the division.

Speaker 8 (01:14:57):
No, no, no, But this is a big one if
they want to try to win the divis all of
a sudden, you beat the Broncos. Yeah, they fall to
eight and three, you're at six and four.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Now we're talking.

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
Now, we're talking.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Yeah, it's a big, big week for the Yeah. Some
fun games in the once the sun goes down, Cecilian,
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(01:16:25):
Munching on macadamia nuts and Dubai chocolates while gazing at
the Pacific Ocean. That is cascading up against the side
of his luxurious home. Yes, pretty accurate, Not at all.

Speaker 14 (01:16:39):
Hi, guys, love you. No, it's like fifty five in overcast.
I'm not asking for a cookie.

Speaker 9 (01:16:48):
Boo hoo.

Speaker 14 (01:16:49):
I know I watched the news. I know it's far
worse back there this week, and I miss you both.
But no, it's kinda it's kind of gloomy and overcast
and kind of ugly shocking.

Speaker 9 (01:17:01):
It's winter.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
You'll have three of those a year, so I think
I'm not feeling too sorry for you.

Speaker 14 (01:17:06):
I still have not gone to the new Arawon. Bo
I know you text me every day asking for photos.
I want to see it, Like what's in the sushi
counter today? I want Those cookies are so good? Can
you bring me one? I'm sorry, dude, I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Have not yet gone That Sushi's got to be elite.
It's got to be good. It's got to be elite,
just has to be. There's no way it's not. We
were into We had a conversation, buddy on Monday. Uh No,
Tuesday was Yesterdays show. I had this conversation. I want
to I want to run it by you. As a
purveyor of the National Football league for as long as
you have been, And the conversation was, with eight games

(01:17:41):
to go, is this as wide open as the Super
Bowl champion quest has ever been in your time?

Speaker 14 (01:17:52):
Yes, and I would argue that the league absolutely loves it. Sure,
this is what you want, right, you want everybody with
a shot. Look at look at the AFC standings the
team were playing this week, the Ravens all of America.
All of America thinks they're gonna win the division and
end up as one of the top four seeds in
the AFC. Right now, they are four and five and

(01:18:13):
the ten seed in the AFC right now, like if
the playoffs were to start to oun obviously they don't,
they would be at home and they wouldn't even be
close to the postseason. The Bengals, and I am not
in any way suggesting the Bengals are about to make
a run. But if they somehow beat the Steelers this week,
and they've already beaten them once, now granted it may
have to be Jake Browning, but they've already beaten him once.

(01:18:34):
If they were to beat the Steelers after Aaron Rodgers
played quite possibly the worst game of his NFL career
this past week, they would be four and six, one
game back in the win column, the first in the
AFC North, with the possibility of Joe Burrow coming back.
We left them for dead a couple of weeks ago,

(01:18:56):
and the NFC people won, Matt Lafleur fired, and they're
the seventh seas and the Niners are not even in
it right now as the eight seed. So yeah, it's
wide open, Like who here is good? I know the
Seahawks are good. I know the Eagles are good.

Speaker 9 (01:19:10):
I think the.

Speaker 14 (01:19:12):
Rams are fantastic. Ram Seahawks great game this week. But
like in the AFC, does truly anybody scare you?

Speaker 9 (01:19:19):
Anybody?

Speaker 5 (01:19:21):
I mean if the Chiefs weren't the Chiefs, but.

Speaker 9 (01:19:23):
They are, right, I think it is the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
It's reputation and like belief that eventually it'll click, because
it always does. Yeah, Like you guys are.

Speaker 14 (01:19:32):
Talking about the Chiefs and the Broncos a few minutes ago,
so I've heard a bunch of times, Well, if the
Broncos beat them this week, they're three and a half
games up. Okay, I'll flip it around. If the Chiefs
beat the Broncos this week, they're a game and a
half back, and then what are all the shows talking
about on Monday? And I know Russell Wilson two years

(01:19:54):
ago led the Broncos to a victory over the Chiefs.
If memory serves, that was that. I'm throwing out Week
eighteen last year because Carson Wentz started for Kansas City
and the game had nothing, well, it meant nothing for
Kansas City. The Broncos have beaten the Chiefs in one
game that meant something, one game since the Obama administration.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
It's been a minute.

Speaker 9 (01:20:15):
Yep, it's been a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
So so so then off of that, because I think
we all are I think we all kind of circle
the same teams in the NFC CO Seattle, Rams, Eagles,
Lions like they they all seem especially if Green Bays formed.
The last couple of weeks been a little weird, So
I guess those four seem like they a little bit separate.
Where are you in the a f C?

Speaker 5 (01:20:38):
Then, I mean back to who do you think can win?
Who can represent the AFC in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 9 (01:20:45):
Team Kansas play.

Speaker 14 (01:20:47):
At the same time, I would not want to have
to face Josh Allen in the postseason because the same
Bill's defense that seemingly loses a starter a week and
and looked bad last week against Miami. Well maybe the
defense didn't look entirely bad, but they're a team that
nine days ago we were praising for shutting down the Chiefs.

Speaker 9 (01:21:11):
So even though Mahomes.

Speaker 14 (01:21:13):
Has Josh Allen's number in the playoffs, I wouldn't want
to play Buffalo. But I don't know that Indy scares me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Denver's got either says Indy real to you or not.

Speaker 9 (01:21:22):
I think they're real.

Speaker 14 (01:21:24):
I think Denver has the defense to beat anybody, anybody
in either conference.

Speaker 9 (01:21:31):
But hey, way to do bo Nicks. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Here's the thing that I every time I do this exercise,
I think the one that the thing that is kind
of the sticking point for me is can I see
a scenario where fill in the blank is hoisting the
Lombardi Trophy as the quarterback of the winning team in
the Super Bowl. Now, if you think about the last
twenty years, like Nick Foles did that, and I wouldn't

(01:21:57):
have thought that was ever gonna happen. So there are
instances where crazy stuff happens, but by and large, to
win the Super Bowl, there's a path, right, There's like
you build towards it. You don't just kind of come
out of nowhere. So when we have the Colts conversation
or the Denver conversation with Nicks, I know they were
really good last year. Or even like the team that's
the hottest in the AFC is Drake May and New England. Yep. Men,

(01:22:21):
you got to go back to like Mahomes to have
that ascent. Yep.

Speaker 14 (01:22:25):
If the AFC Championship Game were today, there is a
three way tie at eight and two. It goes Indie, Denver,
and New England. If I told you before the season
began that the AFC Championship Game would be in any
of those three towns, I think you would rank them
Denver one, and then you would say Indianapolis and New

(01:22:47):
England go jump in a lake.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:22:52):
It's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 8 (01:22:53):
I think that's why the playoffs are going to be
so interesting, especially on the AFC side, because it is
just so wide open. I think in the NFC feel
pretty comfortable that it's going to be one of those
four teams.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
You're looking running a business, the business.

Speaker 9 (01:23:05):
What are we doing now around SG or just blue suit?

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
He's popping I mean he's living his best line. Yeah,
it's a great sway getting things built, running the business.
What he does nothing, it's really enthusiasm unknown for mankind.

Speaker 9 (01:23:20):
Hey, can I pull the curtain back a little bit?

Speaker 14 (01:23:22):
Yeah, So when the music begun, When the music begins
coming out out of a break, as it did before
this segment, sometimes the music goes for like three seconds
and Bo jumps in as the talented and professional host
that he is, and he reads the promo copy to
get us back from break. And sometimes it seemingly goes
for like three minutes because Kevin is inundoubtedly saying, hey, guys,
are you good?

Speaker 9 (01:23:43):
You good?

Speaker 6 (01:23:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Yeah, you good?

Speaker 9 (01:23:44):
Okay, So as as we're waiting here, this music played
a while.

Speaker 14 (01:23:48):
There's usually a funny anecdote being told or a joke
being told before one of you says, yeah, we're good.
So what was it coming back from this break?

Speaker 9 (01:23:58):
No comment?

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Thank you, Bo, You're welcome keV and keV? Thank you?

Speaker 9 (01:24:07):
keV? Was that young Gabriel?

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
No, that was that was keV. I'm sorry you at
our back? Yeah, keV at our back? Yeah, I mean
you have to have you have a little Sometimes you're
in the middle of something. We got a little wiggle room.
Yeah yeah, it works. Okay, yeah, I'll tell you in
the break. So this was I asked. We asked half
this on Tuesday when he joined us. All these days

(01:24:30):
they're kind of all different than just because of the
schedule a little bit and the hoff coming back from Berlin.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
How do you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Determine success for this team in the second half?

Speaker 9 (01:24:41):
Your Cleveland Browns and yours?

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Yes, our hour, our collective or this our time?

Speaker 14 (01:24:50):
Mister, I would love that's I would love to say. Well, actually,
I'm not going to say with love. I will always
say wins and losses, wins and losses, because if they're
winning football games here, it shows me that the offense
has figured it out and there is something to build
on for next year. I have caught myself a couple

(01:25:11):
of times in the last day. Matter of fact, I
might have caught myself on on a text thread that
the two the three of us are on Sunday after
the game looking at who won and who lost and
what is the what does next April look like?

Speaker 9 (01:25:25):
I don't want to be that guy.

Speaker 14 (01:25:27):
I will always root against the Jaguars this year, nothing personal,
because I want to see that pick go higher. But
I don't want to live in that world yet. Mentally,
I am not ready to live in that world yet.
So it's gonna be wins and losses and quarterback development.
It's gonna be blocking up a play for quin Shawn.
We're all ten, all nine actually hold their block and

(01:25:52):
there's a lane there. It's scoring points. It's more ninety
five play or ninety five yard touchdown drives. It's more
of that. Because if you don't have all of that,
then then what does the draft at this point matter?
Don't I don't want to always circle the third Thursday
in April on my calendar.

Speaker 9 (01:26:12):
I'm kind of I'm kind of over that.

Speaker 8 (01:26:14):
Yeah, same, you mentioned quarterback developments. Five games of Dylan Gabriel,
eight games to go. How do you see that playing out?
How would you like to see that playoff?

Speaker 14 (01:26:26):
So I've said, Nathan, you and I have had this
conversation both on and off the air since the third
Saturday in April this year, and that is I do
not care which rookie quarterback does well.

Speaker 9 (01:26:39):
I don't. I just want one of them to make
a statement. This year.

Speaker 14 (01:26:44):
We're like, all right, we got the guy, and by
the way. It may be neither, it may be neither.
I just want one of them to make that statement.
I've I think we've seen plenty of good from Dylan Gabriel.
There's just not enough of it. He would tell you
the same thing. He said it today on the podium
talking about inconsistently see somebody said, Somebody asked him, do
you learn more about you know the good plays or
do you learn more about yourself with the bad plays?

(01:27:07):
And he gave the right answer, which is both, which
is can't just look at one and ignore the other.
So you need more of the good. Certainly when you
scheme something up where whyatt teller pancakes to dude and
you just got to hit a layup and Malachi Corley
can go fifty yards for a touchdown. You can't leave
those plays on the field. He knows it, and I

(01:27:28):
think everyone else knows it. There are so many what
ifs on a game by game basis. You need some
of those what ifs to turn into touchdowns.

Speaker 8 (01:27:39):
Absolutely, And you know at some point, you know this
will be six games, then we'll have seven coming out
of it, and we'll see what that sample size looks like,
and hopefully you can get it going. It's a Baltimore
Ravens seem kind of just like last year was dreadful
defensively for a while and then now the last three
games they have been pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
So this is a test to me.

Speaker 8 (01:27:58):
You know, they're allowing you know, one of the lowest
quarterback ratings in the league. They're hitting the quarterback. They're
allowing the third fewest points in the league. Of the
last three they allowed three touchdowns only, which is the
lowest in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:28:09):
Over the last three games, they have the most turnovers.

Speaker 8 (01:28:12):
This is a test, like, if he can take a
big step forward in this game, I feel like that
would not be an insignificant data point.

Speaker 14 (01:28:19):
Yeah, it would be a very significant data point. As
I right now also have page one of the Ravens
media guide up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Yes, right there, it's a nice little box right now.

Speaker 14 (01:28:29):
Look there picture of Kyle Hamilton, an NFL low three
touchdowns allowed the last three weeks and NFL high seven
turnovers forced the last three weeks and allowing thirteen point
seven points a game the last three weeks. Browns beat
the Ravens last year at home in a game that

(01:28:50):
wasn't supposed to happen and was glorious, and we're going
to keep that one close to our hearts for as
long as we live. It would be great to see
Dylan Gabriel come out and march him down the field
a few times. And it would be great to see
the defense due to the Ravens run game what it
did back in week two. People have forgotten. I know
you guys, haven't forty five yards on the ground between

(01:29:12):
Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry. Nobody has done that. Nobody
has done that, So you can do that again. You
could force a fumble again. You got to capitalize on
those short fields. Browns were able to capitalize on the
on the short field after the rocket pick last week
one play beautiful play, Yeah, I mean that was that
was totally unlike what happened in New England. Imagine how

(01:29:33):
that game would have gone if after the Swesssinger picked,
they did the same thing in New England. It didn't
and then that kind of started started the downfall. I
am happy though, as you guys just said that the
world's greatest human, Charles Davis, is coming to town this week.

Speaker 9 (01:29:46):
Jason mccordy also aren't great, guys, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Hey, Bud, I hate to put a time constraint on this,
because I know you could go for a long time
on this. We had about a couple minutes left in
the show. But I know that you're aware of the
situation with Bernie Coozart, and I know what he meant
to you as a child in your youth. A few seconds,
a minute or so. I want to give it to
you because I'm sure that it's it's something that is
near and dear to your heart.

Speaker 9 (01:30:10):
Yeah, I'm glad you wrote it up. Well.

Speaker 14 (01:30:12):
I've texted with Bernie a few times this morning. Send
it in videos. You send in videos from his hospital bed,
and he is staying as positive as he can humanly
be a guy. You, all of us have experienced that
positivity from him, and that is the one thing that

(01:30:32):
I am holding.

Speaker 9 (01:30:35):
I know that that positivity will pull him through. How
about that?

Speaker 14 (01:30:38):
And my generation knows winning and learned to love Brown's
football because of Bernie Kosar.

Speaker 9 (01:30:45):
He took over.

Speaker 14 (01:30:46):
He was drafted as a rookie when I was eleven
years old. And that eighty five team, the team that
went eight and eight and won the division and lost
actually blew that lead in the fourth quarter in Miami
in the wildcard round. That is the team that made
me love football. He is football to me. And we're
all saying a prayer for Bernie tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Well said, brother, We'll see you this weekend. And Bernie,
we love you, buddy, We love you, absolutely, love you. Bernie,
you matter, absolutely Thanks for listening body Cleveland Browns Daily,
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