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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
OUs are live on a first Friday Miracle edition of
Cleveland Brown's Daily. I am merely bow Day two mandatory
mini camp is in the books, Coach Stefanski addressing the
media at the moment. We anticipate Kenny Pigott, Joe Flacco
addressing the media as well. We will have Jerome Baker
in studio with us live at some point here in

(01:08):
the first hour of the program. Andrew Ciciliano going to
join us in the second hour of the program to
get you set. It was warmer, the sun was out,
it was bright. We went from I had somebody this
morning tell me you don't really have spring in Ohio.
It just winter kind of Peter's out and then it's summer,
and I think that's probably a pretty good description of it.
So it was hot out there. A lot of work

(01:30):
got done out there. Some of the highlights that are
making their ways around the social media if you don't
have access to that obviously, it looks like a long
run from Quin Shawn Judkins that I see where he
makes a heck of a move in the hole then
kind of makes a nice burst and run. It's been
a good spring for Q, really has been. But the
quarterbacks are where all of the attention will be. I
was starting to Girod on my way up here, and

(01:51):
from his vantage point seem like Joe. The reps again
for Joe were pretty minimal, and then it was Pickett
and Gabriel. A bit of a slow start for both
of those guys. Shoudor Maade some nice rows, and Gabriel
kind of came along late as the as the practice
went on. Give it good to see you, by the way,
you have having a nice, nice first Friday.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Great?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
How was that lead up? Last couple of minutes before
the show? Those are everything smooth?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Tee and off at five? I on the prize, what.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Would you shoot at Oakmont?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Did I read correctly because I haven't been around it
much this week to see the world wide web? But
did Roy shoot an eighty one in a practice round?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
So they I think he birdied his last two to
shoot eighty.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
It's perfect good. Yeah, I might be at one hundred
and twenty five.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I had Dave Shadalski of the Golf Die just on
with me this morning and I asked him, I'm like,
do the members there have fun? And he goes, no,
they don't. They don't have any fun. It's brutal. The
place is an absolute brute.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
So is it like that all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
The greens are like that all the time. The fairways
are like that all the time. The rouff right now
is grown up to five inches. And so what they
do there though, which was interesting, so this last night,
rather than just let them grow because then it would
become wispy, they slowly, they slowly let it grow so
that it's as thick on the top as it is
two inches in. So if it's whispy, you know, it's
like a needle. It's more narrow at the top and

(03:21):
it's a little easier to get out of. But instead,
like the thickness at two and a half is the
same at five, and so like when it goes in,
it's gone. And it feels like I saw something from
and we will do the football. But we'd got off
on a tangent here. I saw a line from Oh
my Gosh, the Australian Jason Day. Jason had a great line,

(03:41):
he said. They asked him what an eighteen would shoot
and he said one hundred and forty. He thought it'd
be one hundred and forty because he said, I could
just see an eighteen handicap on the first tee hitting
a cut right into the rough and then not being
able to advance it forwards, then it going to the
other ruff and basically they would just zigzag up and
down the fairway to try to get up to the green.
Rose said one as well, he thought to be one

(04:02):
forty perfect. He said, if you and this is an eighteen,
he said, if you now, if you just bunted it
along and like just hit wedge wedge, wedge, wedge wedge.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I've done that on a golf course.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, like that, maybe that's probably your best chance score.
I saw somebody yesterday on the golf channel put it
from one hundred and twenty five yards out, putted it
down the fairway up the green from one hundred and
twenty five at Oakmont.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Good.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's going to be a scene, man, great, and we're
going to actually be able to watch it all. Yeah,
that starts tomorrow. It does bright and early early tea times.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Uh seven. I want to say that there's a kind
of a money group that goes like seven ten, seven, nineteen, seven,
twenty six, something like that. Rory's among the guys in that,
and then Scott he's at one o'clock in the afternoon.
I want to say one twenty. So that's where you
go on that.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
You were out there, I did, I was g man
and I copious notes. Yeah, I thought the defense had
a day to be very honest, they should. The defense
was yeah, all over the place, GiB it.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
We'd have a big problem, be a very big problem
if we didn't with what we've invested on the defensive side.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, be a very big problem.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I see Kenny Pickett addressing the media now.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, he's on a different podium, of course.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Naturally, there you go. He was asked about the presence
of having Miles Garrett. He said, quote, his presence has
been felt these two days. I can tell you that.
So that speaks to your point on the defense.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yeah, there were there were a handful of plays today
that were quickly gobbled up and throw just turf the ball,
get out of the way, don't die. That was basically
the gist. I can tell you first team defensive line, Okay,
number ninety five obviously Alex right on the other side,

(05:56):
our top draft pick, Mason Graham and Malik Collins, we're
our starting defensive line. Yeah, and they made the presence.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Felt well that, Yeah, that could be a little bit
of an issue because that depends on what your offensive line.
Is that an offensive line issue or is that a
quarterback issue, or are we not identifying we're not getting
it out or we're not getting separation. Those are the
things that you kind of need eye in the sky
on that to see if there is stuff out there
that's being left out on the field. But quite honestly,

(06:32):
if our defense isn't the better of the two units
at this point, then I think you got big problems.
The defense should be having its way.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, I mean the defensive line really really good defense,
had a day. Defensive backfield had a day. Grant Delpit
with a past knockdown, MJ was all over the place.
Was it was pretty impressive, a really really good job.

(07:00):
I'm trying to think what else today. I mean, just
you said it like we started off red zone. Yeah
about twelve oh two. Not the greatest from mister Gabriel
or from mister Flacco, but I wouldn't put it all
on them. I would say there were two or three
drops and then we went split fields. I believe. Should

(07:26):
we take.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Believe mister Baker's walking in yeaheah. You want to keep
roll with it? Do it live or take a break
your world. You're the head honcho.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, let's go take a break, all right, so we
can adjust cameras and everything else.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
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Buckeye as well a VET. At this point, certainly in

(08:36):
your NFL career, what does it mean to you to
come home in this way and to play for your
hometown team.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
It means everything, you know, just playing high school here
then you know, playing five State. I think you know,
just it's just like the Iceland and k I get
to play for the Browns. So it's like something as
a kid you always dream of the playing for your
hometowns and I finally get to do it.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
One of those things where and I ask a lot
of you guys this when you're when you come in studio,
but like, at what point did it go all the
way back, all the way back to high school.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
And all that?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Obviously you're very highly regarded and goes to Ohio State
and all of it. At what point did you think
all of this was actually possible?

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Oh h my first moment, like truly, it was probably
like my sophomore year. My first offer was a Higo
State and then it was like, okay, that was cool.
But at the time, you know, I'm a sophomore. I'm
still worrying about, you know, the rest of my high
school career. And it was like Ohio State Florida, I
want to say, like it was like two big schools.
After they was like back to back to back, and

(09:35):
that was all before I got to lunch, and it
was just like, all right, maybe I couldn't play football
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
When that Buckeye offer comes in, it comes a lot
comes after that, doesn't it. I see you still see
that now in recruiting, like the Io State opens up
and then it.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Just comes right away. I never forget. I walked into
class and he was like, you know, you got somebody downstairs.
They offered me, and then by the time I got back,
it was like already three new schools that offered me.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
So it worked out.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Did I have it right that initially you committed to Florida? Yeah,
that's what I was trying to remember the recruiting process
when you were walking in here and I thought, I
remember that you'd committed to Florida. Then you flip back
to the Bucks, and then your NFL career obviously started
in Florida and now you're back in a high. A
little symmetry there.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted to play in SEC at
the time. You know, SEC was winning championships over and
over and over again, and I'm like one of those people,
you know, you put me where the best is at
and not really get to improve myself. But it all
worked out, you know how State end of winning championship
that year and yeah, you know I ended up coming
after that.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah. The thing that I find and I was talking
to Wat about this a little bit yesterday off air,
but like, you know, growing up in this city, growing
up in this state, you certainly were aware of what
it means to wear the scarlet and gray, but you
probably didn't fully realize it until you ran on in
the shoe a few times. You're like, oh, like quite literally,
the entire state their feelings rest on how we play

(10:53):
on a Saturday.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
And that is very true, you know, when it comes
to Ohio State football. You know in every community and
Ohio it's big no matter who you are, young, oh,
whoever you are, you know you're watching the buck Eyes.
You're rooting for the buck Eyes. And it was definitely
kind of cool just to go to different parts of
Ohio and everybody said the same thing. You know, we
all love the buck Eyes and we hope you do well.

(11:16):
So definitely a blessing.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
And I tell I think there's a lot of parallels
to what a NFL SAT Sunday is like here, and
I mean that it is a compliment and most of
our guys who who played in places like the guys
that we got a lot of guys from LSU, a
lot of those type of places, and I'm like, this
is a lot like Baton Rouge, And I mean that
in a compliment to our city because of how much
it means here a Browns football Sunday and the way

(11:38):
the city shuts down for a Browns football Sunday. You
can almost hear it, you can smell it, like from
a mile away. Yeah, And it's very much I think
a college experience. And you've played in some great places
obviously with great fan bases, but it's a little different
up here.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
Yeah, it's nothing like Ohio, no matter where I play
it at, no matter what it is. You know, Ohio
as a state and they really you know, prideful about
their football. And that was like the main thing of
just like signing here. You know, I was like, I'm
not just playing for me and what I do. You know,
if I miss a tackle, best believe my dad is
going to hear about it. My brother's going to hear

(12:13):
about it. So you know, I was aware of that,
and they pretty much made sure I knew that. You know,
it's not just you going to be on that field anymore.
It's we're going to hold accountability. So you got to
go out there and do your thing.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
That's a cool thing to have that family sharing it
with too, man right to the best part. Yeah, it's
such a cool part of it. So the all of
that stuff tracks and all that stuff makes sense and
it checks boxes. But then it's got to be a
fit for you from a play perspective. What is it
about this defense? Is Jim Schwartz defense and the talent
that's around you and how you fit in with it
that made sense for you?

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah, I mean just defense just kind of cater towards
my skill set. Just go out there and just make place,
shoot your gap, shoot your gun, and just go out
there and do what you do. I'll play in a
lot of defenses where I have to to gap and uh,
you know I could do it. I was doing it
for all these years, but at a certain time, you know,
you kind of miss just being able just to shoot
it and just make plays. And that's my skill, say,

(13:08):
being out in the open field, running freely and just
making plays. So I'm excited just to do that.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, you saw, you've certainly seen some of the impact
that Jay Okay has with his ability to just slice in,
make plays, get into the backfield, all of those things
very similar to the way your game is. In terms
of the conversations you had with coach Schwartz and really
what this last month or so and then Mini camp
were two days into it. How has the fit been
for you?

Speaker 4 (13:31):
For me, it's just been great. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
As soon as I got here, that was the first
thing that said, just be prepared to run and just
go out there and hit and make place. And you know,
actually being here these past you know a few weeks,
that's really it. You know, just go out there and
shoot it, do whatever you want to do. Just just
make the play. And that's that's really the cool part
now is you know, for a while, I'm not gonna
say I was held back, but it was kind of like,

(13:55):
you know, you have to make sure certain things play
off of this guy before you do this.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
But now is like, go out there and just do
what you do.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
So I'm definitely excited.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Let players be players. Man, what's how big of a
difference seven ninety five up there in front as he's
been the last couple of days.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
You know they always tell you about it, you know,
before he got here, and you know they kind of
warn you like, yo, he's far out there, but just
believe he's going to get there. And even today like
he was this one play the play was away from
and just to see how he just runs is ridiculous.
Like a guy like that, he's running hard, he does
what he does. So it's definitely making my job easy

(14:32):
for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's one of those things that even amongst the greatest
athletes on the planet, he still stands out. Yeah, and
that's something. Yeah, you played with some of those guys
in other places. You've been to, but there's something a
little bit different with that dude's makeup. Yeah, when it
comes with it, definitely blessed.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
He's blessed for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
The how is this two days in? How competitive is this?
Offense versus defense?

Speaker 5 (14:56):
I say it's competitive, but that's just we're still just
building up foundation. So you can just see the makeup
of that. Just like guys just going out there making
sure that runs to the ball, run hard, do what
they're supposed to do. But as far as like competitive wise,
we're getting after it, but we're all on both sides.
We're still vanilla and a lot of things we do.
So it's competitive, but the real competitive spirit comes in

(15:18):
training camp.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
How will you You got plans for so you got
one more practice tomorrow and then you got a little
bit of downtime here before you get back into camp.
As a vet, how do you recharge? How do you
refresh the mind, the body, all of it?

Speaker 5 (15:30):
So just be around your family. Yeah, that's the main part.
I think a lot of people don't realize the sacrifice
our family makes. And uh when we go on that
journey of the season, and for me, it's you know,
I'm going to miss for the most part, Thanksgiving, Christmas,
all those holidays.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I'm going to miss birthdays.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
So for me, it's kind of like one of those
things that I just want to spend as much time
as I can in summer, work as hard as I can.
When that time comes, you know, to go on training
camp and take on the season. It's kind of briefs
for me.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
It is awesome to have you here, buddy. It's great
to have you here in studio. Welcome home, and it's
it's cool to see you back in that idea of
a Cleveland kid like you and de Ward in that
bex too. Yeah right, Cleveland kids go to buck Eyes
and then play here, so that's that's very cool. It's
great having you here in studio. Jerome, good to talk
to you, buddy. Thank you for having all right there
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I did see coach in his availability just as we
were getting on air talk about don't pay too close
of attention about who's repping with whom. I love coach,

(17:20):
but with all due respect, I don't believe him. Like
they do everything with a purpose. They everything is so
meticulously planned out. If it didn't matter who was getting reps,
you could just draw their names out of a hat
and throw them in there. There's and it would be
silly to sit here and act like it doesn't matter
who's getting reps. It matters for sure who's getting reps
and where they're getting the reps.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Like you said, there's a method to the men, of
course for anybody. Yes, you're not just throwing guys out there.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I know he doesn't want to make headlines, and so
that's why he answers the way that he did.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I totally understand it. From his perspective. It's probably the
right thing to do, but it's also probably not what's
actually happening. Yeah, because you couldn't be a coach in
the NFL if it didn't matter who got reps correct
and when they got So I get all right, so
I can go through some of this.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Let's go what drills.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'll give you my notes, and then the the g
mantal slide.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
A little red zone at twelve oh two, Dylan Gabriel,
A nice draw. I will say this. The running backs
had a nice little day to day. The good Samson.
Samson's quick, the feet are ridiculously quick. And Judkins at

(18:34):
times looks like he got shot out of a cannon. Yeah,
we got a nice little b roll here that I like.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
That looks Jordan put together for the kids. B roll
is video over. Are talking that's right? Or we're talking
over the video? There you go voiceovers? What what a
lot of times you'll see his vo.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
So Gabriel got four plays didn't find their way into
the end zone. H Flack then with some reps.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
So Dylan got the first reps and was he with
ones yes?

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Okay, yes?

Speaker 2 (19:09):
And then Joe went with ones yes.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
So ones and twos mixed in on on this particular group.
I will say this. You know there were two three
I know, we go is it caught? Is it not caught?
Complete or not complete? But you also had three drops.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
I'm pretty sure the one guy and I don't know
what the situation was, but I'm like, I don't know
if he's ever caught a ball thrown that hard from
a quarterback before. Because Flaco put it on it's a
mustard on it. So they both had they both had
four plays, and then we went into split fields. And

(19:55):
on my field, I had I had flat go and
I had pick it and for the most part with
the ones and twos, a nice little touchdown from Flacco
to who's number eighty nine? Pull out your program kids,

(20:16):
Caden Davis, who promptly ran caught the ball, got both
feet in and with a truckload of steam, ran right
into the field goal post to the point where I
was like, is he dead?

Speaker 3 (20:28):
See all right?

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Because that post is moving dramatically. Everybody was like, ohs whoa,
all right, what what just happened there? But he got
the catch and he got the feed, so good for him.
Delpit had a nice knockdown. This was more third down
red zone plays, so a little bit more movement. Pickt

(20:51):
then came in. The defense really feasted. Yeah, the secondary
just locked down.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
MJ had a fantastic breakup, really really good. The defense
looked good, Like you said, the defense should be a
twelve twenty three. A little eleven on eleven and picket
Picket started to get going here. This is where a
little eleven on eleven. Pickett had some nice plays thrash

(21:23):
with another catch. He had a fantastic pass to Jerry
Judy might have been Pickett's best throw of the Yeah. Yeah, like,
and there were numerous people watching in the media delegation
that were like, Okay, that's that's why you went out
and you got him. So a nice little play there.

(21:45):
But again, there were a couple other plays that might
as well have been coverage sex. I mean the defense
was in on every play, yeah, And I mean that
those defensive edges I mentioned right, and Miles starting off.
But then you go Obo and you go try On
Schoyanka and you go McGuire and like it is just

(22:06):
one after another after another out there. Yeah, so so
it went picket, it went Shador, and then it went
Gabriel had a nice little session there, nice quick passes,
quick touch.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
He sees it well, yeah, it really does. He sees it.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Well.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, he's been he's looked good. He's doing the right things.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
And Gabriel recovered as well and had some nice plays,
a little seven on seven at the end, thrash again, thriving,
but again the seven on sevens I can't okay, they happened,
but there's no contact. There's no like, yeah, there's a defender.
You're you're you're battling uphill from the from the moment

(22:51):
it starts. Deontay Johnson was more with the twos and threes.
Didn't see him with the ones today, no h. I
mentioned Samson and Judkins. Tevin Jenkins the guy played for
the Bears offensive linemen that we took, former first round
pick we signed to a flyer. You know, he played tackle,

(23:12):
but he looked great at guard when the Bears put
him inside, looked pretty good and got some first team
reps at left.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Guard today, so maybe he could be a kind of
a swing guy and bounces around from guard to tackle.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Tilman and Woods both out there today but not participating.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Have we got an update on Tilman in terms of
just what's what's now?

Speaker 4 (23:33):
I don't know. Neither one had helmets, but they were
going through walk through. There was some walkthrough periods and
some install stuff going on. They were part of that,
but neither one participated in anything outside of that. Okay,
So I mean they didn't even really go through positions,
They just went through walk through stuff. So again, I
don't know what's going on with Tilman. He didn't practice

(23:55):
last week in the OTA availability and haven't seen him
in the first two days this week, so that has
to be a little concerning right now.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, Yeah, that is. I mean, it's it's the Sicilian
or Ty and I were talking about that yesterday.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
It is.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
It is, as currently constructed, it's the weakest room.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
It just is.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
You just don't have a lot of NFL proven commodities
in that room, like all the rest of them are
in pretty good spot. You got and then you got
the four headed quarterback that you're dealing with But in
terms of like as currently constructed, that receiver room outside
of Jerry Judy, who obviously had his breakout last year
with us, there just isn't a lot proven and it's

(24:43):
a it's a bet on Deontay Johnson and we'll see.
I contend if there is a room, and I imagine
that this would be the case, if there is a
room where you will where you feel like you need
to add another body and not just a body, but
like a guy who's in the too deep a dude
and you're not gonna get a dude dude because they're
all everybody. Let's those guys hit the market. But just
a flyer on someone with an elite skill set, this

(25:05):
is the position.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I think you'd see it.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Yeah, I think that, and that just me watching. Yeah,
we miss Elijah More, Yeah, you know, and I think
we we had that you know, restricted free agent tag
that we had put on them or unrestricted free agent tag,

(25:27):
and then the Bills just went all in on it.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, they got it done.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
So you know that. I think that's a that's a
tough loss for this football team because I think I
would have liked to have seen him in this offense
because it's you know, you're short shortening the field a
little bit, you're not stretching it a whole lot. Right now,
I will say this, we have a lot of tight ends.
We have a lot of tight ends, five or six

(25:55):
tight ends, and they all made catches throughout the day.
Like it was like wait, who Okay, that's another tight end.
Oh that's another tight end.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
It feels like we're gonna play a lot with two
of them on the field, doesn't he Yep?

Speaker 4 (26:06):
I would think so. And we lined I saw in
Nadjoku and Fan and lined up outside.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
So yeah, yeah, I mean that's how you so. And
yesterday you said Samson was split out wide yep. So
it seems like what they're trying to do now to
kind of make up for the lack of weaponry from
the receiver position is to repurpose or redistribute tight end
and running back into those slots. Yeah, to try to
create some missing.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
A man, what do you got? Because Gmail was on
a different field.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Gibby, real quick, before we get to the g man.
You said you were on a picket It was a
picket Flacco field.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
I was on picket Flaca and was the feeling red zone.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Is the feeling you got in the red zone that
that did Picket go first?

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Or did Flacco?

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Uh no, I'm sorry it was Gabriel Flacco.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh, Gabriel Flaco is with you?

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Uh no, no, I'm sorry what I take that back?
The first set of eleven on eleven's was a red
zone on one field. Yeah, they went split fields. I
had Flacco, I had Pickett. Flacco took the first.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Flacco went first there, ye, okay, because yesterday he didn't
get a rep, correct, so he got he got some
reps today. Yep, he got some reps today. Still, probably
not as much as the other eleven. Later on, Pickett
had the first rep, Picket went first, and he of the.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
First reps and seven on seven at the end.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, all right, that's I mean, all these things matter,
it does? It all matters? Like I understand why coach
doesn't want to say it out loud, but they do.
Go ahead, g man, welcome back, Welcome to man.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
How are you?

Speaker 7 (27:31):
I don't have too terribly much more to add. I
was on a field with Gabriel and Shador. I have
their numbers from over there. I only saw a ball
hit the ground three times.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
That's good.

Speaker 7 (27:42):
Pickett three for three in a touchdown, including a really
nice throw to Jerry Judy. I think Gibe mentioned that
it is a throw over the middle, Judy weaving through traffic,
untouched it was.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
It was a really nice play.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
Dylan Gabriel one thing I will say about him, he
called himself yesterday the play action king.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
I see it.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Now, Oh yeah, ball a little bit of a ball
with it.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
Can he can run the play action very efficiently. And
he loves his tight ends too. He touched on that.
I mean Brendan Bates was was prevalent. Brendan Bates is
a Cincinnati kid. Trey McKitty made some plays today, Blake
Whiteheart made some plays today, and then obviously David made plays.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I see Dylan in the just to drill it down
on that, just for a second. And Jordan had it
in the There was a clip that he had in
the in the B role that we were playing. If
you're watching on the stream, Dylan Gabriel looks so cool
rolling out of pocket and throwing on the run like
it's got zip to it. It gets there in a hurry.
It's ultra accurate. And you mentioned him liking to throw

(28:44):
to the tight ends. Well, that's music to Kevin's Fancy's
ears and that's probably why they love him so much. Yeah,
the play action game and the tight end. Yeah, he
had a pretty good one to throw to last year.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
Terrence Ferguson, he did get at Oregon, Like Gibbs mentioned,
it was Alex Wright of Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett, Like,
you know, he's a superstar. Unbelievable today there were multiple
plays he just blew up, like he had to pull
up to not hit the guy, not hit the quarterback,

(29:13):
not even not hit the running back. He was getting
to the quarterback before a handoff. Yeah, at some point,
he's unbelievable. He's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Did you see I don't know if it was available
on I don't know if you were able to make
it out on the stream. But when I mentioned Jerome
about having ninety five, just see his face slide up.
Oh yeah, yeah, it's just different. Yeah, it's crazy different.

Speaker 7 (29:30):
Soeven eleven with Pickett and Chador as well, Kenny does
have that athletics athletics side to him, which I think
people forget about a lot. He can scramble, he can
make plays with his legs and he was doing that
and again I mentioned this yesterday, but I think he's
tremendously accurate outside the numbers throwing to the sideline. Quinn

(29:52):
Shawn Judkins man, he's a beast. He is his his legs,
his quads are massive. He's such a strong runner. He
has a strong base, he can cut quickly. And then
Dylan Sampson's the perfect complimentary piece to that because he's
got quick feet.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
I think he's a bit faster of a runner.

Speaker 7 (30:14):
Don't quote me on that, but I think this, these
two running backs that they have in the backfield, it's
gonna be a nice and still got Jerome Ford by
the way, too, who also looked good today.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I think it's gonna be like what Quinn Shawn did
last year at Ohio State with its hot hand, them
both fresh, keep him both fresh. It helped Ohio State
through a sixteen game season last year having him both
And I think you're gonna lose. I think you're gonna
lean on in various moments. I think you lean on
all three of those backs.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Yeah, and there was there was one handoff and eleven
on eleven, Shador handed it off to Pierre Strong and
Wyatt Teller was standing over by me and Andrew trying
to get out of the sun. He said, and he's like,
oh he hasn't been touched yet. Oh whoa, whoa why Teller?
Funny guy.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
We love him. Yeah it.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
I thought Kenny had a good pocket presence in eleven
on eleven as well. I had a note on one
of the throws he made to Luke Floria. I had
to shoot, I had to shout out my golden flash
stepped up in the pocket nicely and again it was
one of those out routes.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
He stepped up and.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Delivered it on a frozen rope. So he's got the
arm talent. I can tell you that that that's that's
everything that I have that Gibbs didn't say.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, I think you're look all all of these all
of this stuff matters. You got one more day tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
This is going to set the table for what the
fall is going to be like. Knowing this regime, Kevin
Stefanski the front office, they will have it down to
a science with these reps. They will have spent a
great deal of time having plans probably for all four
that are very specific for the individual player. My hunches

(31:54):
Is would be that Gabriel and Pickett have a similar plan,
that Flat and Shadur would be the outliers and on
the other ends of the spectrum in terms of how
they're being built up here a little bit and being prepared.
I do think you're gonna get It's clearly going to
be a wide open Anyone can win quarterback competition. It's
just the rate you're going at. It's gonna be a
little different with all of the guys, and and and

(32:18):
all of this stuff matters. Every every snap matters, every
rep you get matter, And it seems like the rookie,
the two young guys are coming in nicely. I'll say
this about shoot or there's every single practice that we've
had access to, every ota that we've had access to,
there are a couple of throws where you go, oh, well,
that looks great. I mean, that's that's just the truth.
That's what's happening. He's doing everything right, and he's he

(32:41):
does a great job of on the intermediate uh, and
then the really intermediate all the way through the deep ball.
He can throw them all with great touch, great pace.
As he said, he layers the ball very well and
and that shows up when you watch you come out
here in this fall, when you come out and you
come to camp and you see him spin it like
he's he's a very natural thrower, very natural thrower of

(33:02):
the football. But that job is really the job. That's
the job is, that's the job through OTA's it's the
drop through mandatory mini camp, and obviously it'll be the
job in training camp and everything else. With as I mentioned,
the the I do think receiver is concerning. I think
you need to add to that one way or another.

(33:23):
And that could be via trade, there could be stuff
that happens in camp, who knows. But it does feel
like you need to add to that a little bit
because in what I've seen in OTAs and then what
you guys are relaying here in the copious notes, we're
not quite scary enough on the perimeter.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yeah, I would agree with that.

Speaker 7 (33:39):
And one more thing I want to add about the quarterbacks,
Like we talk so much about how they are on
the field, off the field, they're just as impressive. Like
these you mentioned it yesterday, Dylan Gabriel carries himself like
a five year vet.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
He sounds like a franch I mean, he just sounds
like it. He looked, you know, all of that stuff
he just carries. He's he's lived a very well traveled
football career. And when we were we talked to him
at the golf outing and we talked about this idea
of like going to UCF and winning, and then going
to Oklahoma and winning, and then going to Oregon and
winning and being the dude everywhere along the way. There's

(34:15):
some muscle memory that's been built up with that, and
he he's got this down in terms of coming into
a new situation, learning an offense quickly and applying it
like his his study skills are pretty elite, and his
brain's pretty elite in terms of getting ready to go,
and arm speaks for itself. Obviously there's from a size perspective,

(34:36):
but he's been that height his whole life and he
succeeded and as Kevin always says, like it never showed
up on tape, and so that's that's part of it.
But he is he's being asked to do things a
little bit different. As Mary Kay said with this a
couple of days ago, and Ze and I've been talking
about it for a month. He's been able, he's he's
being asked to do a little bit different things in
what store is being asked to do right now? So
all right, good stuff, good copious notes there boys, very good.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
We're doing our best. We're no Zagura, but we're trying.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Come on, I mean, he's the kids in Unicorn. Well
now there's two of them, another one bouncing around, Luca,
little Luca.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
I don't know, right this is good for the world
or it's great.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
It's great, It's all everybody would have want hopefully.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, so that's very good. All right, you want do
you want to take a break and go around the league?

Speaker 4 (35:25):
I know, let's go around those sports world here coming up. Okay,
we'll efforting all the audio. We're taking a quick time out.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
We're gonna we're gonna work to get the quarterback audio
and po potentially coach as well from you having some
technical issues getting dealing with that. So we'll get to
you get to that. But in the meantime, we're going
around the sports Worl'll do that coming up next. You
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Cleveland Browns, Deontay Johnson. Andrew was here in the break
and had a press conference uh downstairs here in the
last couple of minutes. Was kind of the tone of it,

(36:31):
paraphrasing what Andrew just was telling me in the break
was had a bad year, five good ones in Pittsburgh.
I'm gonna be good. So, uh, we need him to
be We'd like that. We need and he is enough
for that. Yeah, he's a he's definitely. He's kind of
the lottery ticket if it hits you know what the
talent is. But but that's that's a little bit part

(36:52):
of it. So I did like that. I did like
that approach uh from from Deontay there in that availability
that I think has just wrapped up Toledo guy. Yes,
played at Toledo.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
I want to hold it against him.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, I mean, statistically it kind of speaks for itself.
I mean, right out of the gates, six's eighty five
touchdowns in Pittsburgh, the nine twenty three and twenty twenty
seven touchdowns, eleven hundred yards, eight touchdowns in twenty one
eight eighty two seven touchdowns or no touchdowns rather than
twenty twenty two, than seven to seventeen. That last year
in Pittsburgh in just eleven starts and five touchdowns, and

(37:34):
then last year was split between Carolina, Baltimore, and Houston
three different stops. So just kind of got wayward there.
But a great start to a career and quite honestly
desperately needed by us if he can be somebody that
you can count on on the other side, opposite opposite
Jared Judy or operating in the slot. He's just twenty eight,

(37:54):
so he's got a lot of talent, plenty of time.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
I mean, we gave him a few highlight reels.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, Well, we'll work
on getting some of that quarterback audio for you for
a little bit later.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Andrew's going to join us in the two curtain. There's
two podiums, yep. Unfortunately they're both going at the same time.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
YEP.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Only one of them has a live stream and a
live feed that we can record directly into.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
And it's not the one with the two quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
There you go. So that's where you Why that happened,
I'm not really sure, but that's where we are.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, So we're trying to trying to piece together some
of the comments that were made outside as we're doing
the show live here. So that's that's what's going on.
A couple of things around the NFL world. Aaron Rodgers
had his introductory press conference in Pittsburgh yesterday, uh and
said that it was his soul, that it was a
decision that was made that his soul needed Pittsburgh and
Mike Tomlin, you love it. You're so excited Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Pepa, I got it. I gotta say this. Here's here's
my big question. Yeah, and this is the most important question. Sure,
what kind of shirt was that guy wearing on the
practice field this day because it looked like a jersey shirt. Oh,
it's the heat in the bloody I think it's the I.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Think that's like, that's the cut that Roethlisberger had, which
is like the looser it's like the looser fit. And
then they have the sleeves on the jersey, so you
can have them like a lot of our guys and
Deshaun would have them this way where they have like
the elastic on the sleeves and so they tuck them
in underneath the shoulder pad. Or you can have like

(39:29):
the longer sleeve that like Roethlisberger wore. And I think
that's what Rogers is going for. It's kind of the
floppier long sleeve. Okay, that came back last year in
youth football, the floppier sleeve. I started seeing it in you, Well,
we all did we all played with the floppy sleeves,
did we?

Speaker 8 (39:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (39:47):
We did.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
We didn't have the we weren't up tight around the arms.
That's a relatively new phenomenon. I guess, Yeah, we all
had the loose You're starting to see it and then
they flop.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Now I thought it was in. I mean, he confirmed
if he wasn't playing for Pittsburgh, he wasn't playing.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, and look, this is what I think from a
just a thirty thousand feet view of it. What you want,
what I would what you want as a fan is
what you hope for as a fan is when he
gets to August and September, you can talk yourself into
being a super Bowl contender. If things go our way,

(40:26):
these things can happen, and we had some of those.
There was the year Baker twenty nineteen or twenty we
were the fourth choice to win the Super Bowl. So
like you've had some of that where you could say,
if this happens and these things happen, away we go.
It was like that when you acquired to Sean Sure, Like,
you get the guy the last time he played, who's
a top five quarterback in the league. You put that

(40:48):
guy into a team with Nick Chubb and Miles Garrett
and Denzel Ward and let's go, let's go see what
that looks like. And then the you know, the suspension
happened and we were never really able to see it
that first year. But that's that's what you hope for.
And I think if you're a Steelers fan, what you
probably can do is you could say, all right, pretty
good run game. Offensive line isn't great, but we got
a good run. We got a good run game. We
just acquired DK Metcalf, we have good tight ends, we

(41:10):
got an elite defense. We went ten games without this guy,
So to me, for him there. It feels like if
they win a playoff game, that's a successful run. He
had some glowing things to say about Will Howard, so
you know he can bring him along as well. And
Andrew could correct me with us on this when he
joins me in the second hour there he is right

(41:31):
there grabbing a snack. But I don't recall like Jordan
love Ever saying anything cross about Aaron Rodgers. It seems
like he was pretty good to him. Like I don't
you feel like if there was ill will or that
he felt like he, you know, retarded his growth, They
just you didn't. You haven't. I haven't heard that. Yeah,

(41:52):
and maybe it was said and you know as a
packer beat thing, but I feel like I would have.
I would have heard it over the last few years
considering how much stuff were you around the league. So yeah,
I think you know, from their perspective, they can wake
up in October and September and say, yeah, we got
a shot and there's big time issues down in Cincinnati.
They got a lot they're dealing with with the Hendricks
and stuff, and that's it's a mess. You got Burrough

(42:16):
saying it's a distraction, an oppressor.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
I mean, and he's said that about Hendrickson. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, like not not the number one pick who
decided to No, it should be the left of center yesterday.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Well it should be. They've they invested in him two
years ago. They got Higgins and Chase Redone. This should
be an off season of hey, we we're different, let's
go chase it. And instead they're dealing with nonsense and
some of it self created, and Stuart's is self created.
I mean, there's no reason to do what they're doing

(42:50):
on that, so that that that things a little bit.
So Yeah, from a Pittsburgh perspective, Rogers plays well and
away you go. So he's married too, he had that
out there. It's funny, like I feel like we've known
all the women he's dated because he had it was
with Olivia Munn, he was with dani Ka Patrick, and
then he was with is it Shalane Woodley? I think
the other actress. And I didn't even know, not that

(43:13):
I'm entitled.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
I have no idea who this one is.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, I don't. I don't have any idea. He lives
in the same neighborhood as Siciliano. Maybe Siciliano's seen him
walking around.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Find out he's gonna join us two o'clock. He's eating somewhere.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
He walked out. There's like seven people in here. JK.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Dobbins signing one year, five point twenty five million dollar
deal with Denver. Just can't stay healthy.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Great back when he really great back.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
When he's healthy, great dude, great back. Just the health
part of it is not there. A couple of news
and notes from college sports. Lee Corso's final head gear
pick would be on August thirtieth in Columbus. It's Texas
versus Ohio State. He made his first head gear pick
in Columbus. It was the Penn State game in nineteen
ninety six. He did so because Herb Street's wife, Ali,

(44:01):
is a Buckeye cheerleader, and he asked her, do you
think you could get me that head And the answer
was no, I don't think so, and then they did,
and it's become a tradition ever since. I think it's
one of the defining moments of college football's rise over
the last thirty years into becoming the second most popular
sport in this country. I think college game Day sets
the table and the tone for the day in college

(44:23):
football unlike any other sports show on the planet. And
it's amazing how timeless it is. Like my kids will
sit and wait for him to put on a mascotthead
at the end of the show. He's picked Ohio State
more than anybody else, forty five times. Alabama's second, he's
picked them thirty eight times. So forty five for Ohio State,

(44:43):
thirty eight for Alabama. He's been to They've done more
Ohio State games than anything else. I'll be I'm happy
to tell you I was dead wrong on this. That Saturday,
Florida State hosts Alabama on ABC, ESPN and Corso went
to Florida State. So while I was aware of all

(45:05):
of this stuff with Ohio State that I just mentioned,
I assumed his last one would be at his alma mater.
And by the way, that's a much easier travel day
for Herbstreakuse, I'm guessing he's calling the game Saturday night
between Florida State and Alabama. I'd like to think so, yeah,
But instead they're at Ohio State Texas, which is a
big noon kick on Fox. And I think ESPN deserves

(45:27):
a great deal of credit here. Like they are not
They're going to the best game every week. They're not
going to the best game that's on their air. They're
going to the best game every week. They were at
Oregon Ohio State last year. They're going to Ohio State,
Texas this year. They're usually at Ohio State Michigan. Like,
they go to the best game, whether it's on their
air or not. And that takes guts in a world

(45:48):
that's all about the money and promoting your own entities,
and they go and do it in places that they're
not broadcasting, and they deserve credit for that.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Yeah, because Big Noon, it's only I think last year.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
It's only happened once where Big Noon hasn't. There's only
been one that I know of. There's only been one
time where Big Noon has been live at a football
at a football environment that they were not broadcasting, and
it was Colorado Colorado State two years ago. The scene
when they came on the scene with Schador and Dion
Travis Hunter, they popped on the scene and they were

(46:21):
they were there a couple of weekends in a row.
They had the game the week before, but then the
next weekend they were hosting Colorado State was actually a
ten oh five kick. It drew like eight million viewers.
A great game, really good game, and they were live
for that. And that's the only time that I know
that that big noon kick has been at a game
that there that wasn't on Fox.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
So it's a good job out of out of ESPN
to get there. My favorite, My favorite Corso game day
is when they give him the guns. So he gets
guns when he picks Oklahoma. He gets guns when he
picks Texas Tech usually Oklahoma State against stuns too, but
my favorite. They had the white shotguns from Oklahoma and

(47:02):
he fires those things in the air and everybody scatters.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Yep, because he's non discriminate where he's holding it or
in the air. Watch your head, you want to stay
down low in that situation. Yeah, there wasn't a little
other news today out of the NFL. By the way,
go ahead, Brian Thomas Jacksonville, I don't know if you

(47:26):
saw this today. Came down on his shoulder hard like practice.
Came to a screeching halt. They did resume, but basically
he landed hard on his shoulder. Fine, could have gone
back out, but they immediately took him inside and everybody
was like ro row yeah, I'm watching him a little

(47:48):
scared there today, just pre cautionary.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah, he actually said, yeah, Liam Cohnes and Brian Thomas
is fine. This is also interesting. There's a video where
Brian Thomas says about his connection with Trevor Lawrence that
it's video game like.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
So one more thing. Sean McVay was on Good Morning
Football this morning. Right, I'm not sure how many people
are watching that these days, but yeah, he was on
and he was asked how close was Aaron Rodgers to
joining the Rams. His quote was, that was a possibility,
but our first priority was to get Matt Stafford back.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah, it seemed like there was a little bit of
like flirtation. Obviously a lot of people with Stafford and
Pittsburgh really was really interested in Stafford, and I get
that from their perspective, that could have been a two
or three year solution, whereas Rogers feels like he's just
a one year contract. I suppose he could come back
for year two. And then when the Rams started to say, okay,

(48:48):
if this is the case, what else is out there?
And that's how you kick the tires on Rogers.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I'm sure it hooked up to a lie detector, Aaron
Rodgers say his first two options would have been Minnesota
and Los Angeles in some order, but once those became
not there, I think I do take him at his word.
I think it's pretty easy for him to be excited
about playing in Pittsburgh. I mean, other than Buffalo, it's
probably the most like Green Bay location in the league.

(49:15):
The history, the tradition, all of it. Tomlin. There's a
great admiration obviously that he has for Tomlin and vice versas,
so that works. Yeah. I mean, I know that nobody
around here once to hear it. I get it, But
I tend to think this is going to be just fine,
and I think you'll stay upright. I mean, they won
ten games without.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Him, twenty nine touchdowns and ten picks. Sounds like an
awful good thing. If you're the Squealer fans, Yeah, you'll
definitely tell whether you want him or not.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
All right, second hour of the program will get mister
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Here is Joe Flacco.

Speaker 9 (50:43):
Joe's we come to the end of the spring, you
feel like personally you've accomplished what you wanted to get
out of it.

Speaker 10 (50:49):
Yeah, you know, for me, it's a've got there and
just kind of getting your feel back and getting the
ball off your hand.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Well, make sure you're going through your reads the right way.

Speaker 10 (50:58):
So I feel great with that, you know, I feel
like I'm getting through things and spinning it well, and
you know, the other things will come. And it's not
like I've had a million reps, so it's tough to
kind of get in the groove and do those things.
But as far as when I'm out there just kind
of getting through everything and just the vision of it all,
I've I've felt good, fel comfortable, so.

Speaker 11 (51:17):
Fun to kind of watch on shore, you know, kind
it up with you a little bit, and I'm a
dancing during my job.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Was just really funny.

Speaker 11 (51:24):
But he kind of well, first of all, maybe we're
ninetyears but also is he bringing you know, a lightness.

Speaker 10 (51:32):
And some laughter and fund of course, yeah, I mean listen,
that's honestly how a lot of rooms and locker rooms
are anyway. But yeah, obviously, like you can see the
interactions and it's like that in meeting rooms too.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Sometimes we're laughing together.

Speaker 10 (51:48):
Sometimes you're chuckling because of whatever, you know, they're thinking
as the young guys. But I usually I would say
I've had a lot of I've had a smile on
my face a good portion of the time I've been
here this so.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
It's been a lot of fun.

Speaker 10 (52:02):
Going to be able to get you to do that no, no, no, no,
he's I don't know what Dancy was talking about, but
he's not getting me to do anything.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
But you're a post for a picture.

Speaker 10 (52:12):
Yeah, that was kind of harmless. That Wasn't that embarrassing?
That was like lightly mildly embarrassing. Well whatever, you know,
And all I was doing was copying somebody else.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Would I can do that? Would you?

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Uh? Been kind of load managed your a ota spring goold?

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Is that gonna continue in summer ball?

Speaker 10 (52:29):
I don't know what the plan is but exactly, but
you know, I I trust Kevin and that he has
a plan for all this, and you know, that's really
all I can do. You know, listen, I'd love to
go out there and take one hundred and twenty reps
a day and get in the groove and and do
all those things. But like I said, the coaches have
a plan, Kevin has a plan, and my job is
to just trust that, go.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Out there and and do the best I can. See
what you do her now in ots Cope yourning camp,
there's a small family sign.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
What have you seen Indiana.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Dyllan's with threshing World.

Speaker 10 (52:59):
Yeah, listen, I try to remember putting myself in their
shoes being young, and I'll say to them, like they're
not letting things bother them.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
They seem to be pretty comfortable.

Speaker 10 (53:08):
They've they've been able to relax themselves, come out here
and have good practices, find completions that they're they're mostly
not forcing the ball and things like that. You know,
maybe some of the times those completions, maybe they could
have put the ball somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
But I think for young quarterbacks to be able to
to not.

Speaker 10 (53:27):
Try to force things and sometimes just take the check
down and take the low guy can show a lot
of growth and can show some maturity.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
And I think they've both done that a little bit.
We've seen in three play Action you're very good at it.
Does it go back to the Koziak.

Speaker 10 (53:44):
Or we always I think even when I was even
before that, you know, when we kind of started with
Cam Cameron, when I was when I was a rookie,
we still had a good amount of that in our
in our game. I think with the type of zone
run game that we do in this offense and how
that's paired with the with the passing, you know, with
our play action game.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
I do think it's just good stuff.

Speaker 10 (54:06):
You know, and when you get into a rhythm and
you can kind of you learn how to tempo your
drop and get your eyes in the right spots.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Then yes, I obviously enjoyed doing that.

Speaker 11 (54:15):
I was talking to a little bit about you guys
being sort of from the same area, spending some time
in the offices and get some guys together. You're going
to pay at as much, But can you just talk
a little bit about how you guys.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Like that book? And yeah, you know what, I don't know.
I haven't thought too much of it.

Speaker 10 (54:38):
You always get questions about what you're gonna do over
these five weeks, and honestly, I'm forty years old.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
I'm gonna continue to do what I'm what I've been
doing the last few years.

Speaker 10 (54:46):
If something does happen to come together, it will be
nice to the fact that a couple of us are
right in that in that in that zone and maybe
we can pull some But honestly, like you know, those things,
it's more about kind of just getting together and spending
time with the guys, and it is throwing them all around.
It's just building report and getting to know guys, and
that's the most important thing.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Joe Tommy told us that sometimes your stories interrupt the
meetings they're built.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Is that true?

Speaker 10 (55:13):
Yeah, it's true. I think we all have a little
bit of this. You know, Shouder might throw something out
there and then I can just kind of build off
of that. Who knows, but we all have stories. Yes,
there's I mean, listen, there was I can think of
one time we had a meeting at nine o'clock and
I think we were lifting at nine twenty, so we
had fifteen minutes and somebody started it off with, uh,

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we were talking about this wasn't even a football story.
We're talking about vacations and do you actually like going
on them? And I was like, you know, sometimes, but
not necessarily. And that turns into five stories and the
next thing you know, it's nine to seventeen. You're like,
all right, guys, see you later. So yeah, that can happen.
But throughout the course of my career, that's like, you know,
that happens on Fridays in the season. You know, you're
you're you've prepared, you're ready, You've kind of covered everything,

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and sometimes I'm tell stories for fifteen minutes. Uh, it's
kind of what you know, that's what being a teammate
and getting to know these guys is all about so
it's a lot of fun to do.

Speaker 6 (56:09):
That was talking about social media twenty for seventy year cycles.

Speaker 10 (56:19):
Yeah, well it's I think when it initially came in,
I think Twitter started right around seven o eight.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
I came in an Oe.

Speaker 10 (56:25):
I can remember like the first time I walked into
the cafeteria Baltimore and somebody was like, hey, you mind
if we tweet this, and I nobody knew what that meant.
I think the evolution has kind of come from that's
a method to kind of see some stuff and have
some fun to like, it's the main news source, you know.
So the difference now is like that everybody's getting their

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stuff from there, and uh, it's treated a little bit
more seriously because everybody that is the main news source.
But you'd still all you still have the same thing
you always have, which is a million different opinions. So
it's like it kind of blends like your actual news
source with a bunch of other stuff. And you know, now,

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I think we live in this world where just like
everything you see on there, there's there's a good portion
of people that are taking whatever you see on there
very seriously.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
And sometimes it's not the case, you know, but you
just have to. I don't know. I've been on Instagram.
That's the only thing I've ever logged in on in
my life.

Speaker 10 (57:27):
I'm I won't download the other things because I don't
miss them, Like I like, yeah, if you told me
you're taking Instagram away, like I've been on it, I'm
too far down the road. But like Twitter and all
those other things, I won't even download it on my
phone just because I know it's it's a trap to
just you know, get sucked in.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
The dance on No TikTok dances.

Speaker 10 (57:51):
The fact that people that is different to this generation,
the fact that people want to get on their phones
and show people the most like that's embarrassing. You're in
a adult like being an adult. Like it's just like
I can't wrap my head around that.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
And like I get it.

Speaker 10 (58:05):
Like you have kids, and like you want to like
you want to like have fun with your kids, like well,
like have fun with your kids in private. You know,
That's what I think. I'm not guarded. I don't think
I'm guarded at all. I think honestly, if you talk
to me in person, I'll tell you a lot. I'll
be pretty honest with you, but like, yeah on social media,
no chance, no chance, just part of me there's there,
there's a piece of me. At times they were like, ah,
should I be this guy that kind of like does

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this a little bit? Like because that I feel like
in order to have a good social media you do
want to be honest and like show what you do
in your life.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
But it's just like that's a job and the younger.

Speaker 12 (58:37):
Players and maybe don't have the same perspective that you do,
and like the reality.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
It's just different.

Speaker 10 (58:43):
I mean, listen, if I grew up this when they did,
I'd be I'd probably be My personality is what it is.
I don't think i'd be dancing on camera, but yeah,
I would be more similar to them than I would
probably admit.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
A leader developing chemistry is that mostly organically? How that
happens at this time of year? Or does someone have
to say we're gonna go off and we're going to
do this things like that. I think things happen organically.

Speaker 10 (59:10):
I think guys feel first of all, when it comes
to leadership on a football team, you have so many
dominant personalities and at the end of the day, Kevin
Stefanski for the Cleveland Browns is the leader. I don't
care how many leaders you have on the team that
play like you have to fall in place and buy
into what the head coach is preaching, and then it's

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and then it's your job to kind of facilitate that
as a leader, but ultimately as a player, players respect
guys that show up, play well, work hard, and then
everything else kind of happens organically if you're you know,
depending on your personality and things like that. But the
first thing you have to do is take that field
and show that you can play some ball, and then
everything else kind of comes together.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Is part of campus limited to these guys, Like for
what do you think the most important thing.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
Is taking away from many camp I think into that break.

Speaker 10 (01:00:00):
And then looking ahead to anything, it's just kind of
giving yourself the reminder that you can do it. Get
some confidence back, get some confidence heading into the off
season so that when we come back for a training camp,
we feel like we're a team that can go win
football games. And I think a lot of the off
season is just getting that feeling back, you know, And
it doesn't matter what kind of season you had the

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year before. You've taken three months off, you've been in
a weight room, you've been getting back, and every time
you take that field, you got to give yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
That reminder like, oh, yeah, this is where I want
to be and man, I can do this. I love
doing it.

Speaker 10 (01:00:32):
And to give to go out there against your team
and to actually complete some balls and bat balls.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Down and do all the things that everybody's doing.

Speaker 10 (01:00:40):
It just gives you that little reminder like, Okay, yeah,
we look good, we're gonna compete. And I think when
you have that confidence going in the training camp, you know,
it gives you that it gives you that little bit
of an edge.

Speaker 11 (01:00:52):
You feel that a guy like I don't hear it,
who had such a turbulent off season we sat down
with there is one of the things that, God, I'm
excited about coming back was the fact that you had
a pretty good idea that you were going to be
here too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
And I heard Joel say similar dreams.

Speaker 11 (01:01:09):
So what what just how does that make you?

Speaker 10 (01:01:11):
Yeah, well, we were just I mean we were just
talking about relationships and teammates and listen, it feels good
to have players to feel that way about guys and
to and to maybe have sense that maybe you're felt
like that towards a little bit too, just because like
we're all trying to be good football players. And usually

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when you get those feelings towards guys, it means that
you're working hard and doing those right things, and it
always feels good for somebody to kind of pep you
up and say, hey, man, you did a good job today.
So when you have good relationships, it's another version of that.

Speaker 8 (01:01:44):
Joe, the way the literature look at you, was there
a guy when you came in in Baltimore that was
sort of that person for you?

Speaker 10 (01:01:53):
I don't know quite the same, but like I had,
I came in with Kyle Bower and Troy Smith. They
were kind of like competing and you know, we were
kind of all in that room to get And then
shortly after that, Todd Bowman came into my room. And
he was probably thirty six or thirty seven years old
at the time, and he had been around the league
a little bit, played in Minnesota, in Green Bay, Jacksonville.
I think he'd just come from Jacksonville. And Todd was

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awesome to me. He was kind of in Baltimore by himself.
His family was back in Minnesota, and he'd take me
out to dinner and go out for a drink here
and there, and just just an unbelievable person. And I
did like, look, I appreciated it in the moment, but
looking back also it was a nice It was something

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that kind of calmed me down, Like you had a
good relationship with somebody in the room that you know,
you could feel comfortable around and and you felt was
genuinely rooting for you to go play well.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
So Jill last one Jean yesterday talked about it. Ask
any questions and how valuable that is there a specific
area that most of the question slash advice ook the time.
It's tough to say. It's a little bit of everything.

Speaker 10 (01:02:59):
I mean, and I don't know if I've mentioned it before,
but I mean they were even asking me about cadence.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
You know, we're trying to sound the same with everybody,
and a lot of these guys in today's game, like
you're you're so used to no huddle and not even
doing a cadence anymore. Listen.

Speaker 10 (01:03:15):
I was that same way like I in college. We
were nothing in we were you know, in nothing but
shotgun and pretty much all no huddle. But Back then,
you were kind of like in these camps, you were forced,
like coaches really forced.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
You to kind of adapt.

Speaker 10 (01:03:30):
And these days it's kind of, you know, more of
that college style is kind of leaked into the NFL
a little bit, but you hit certain teams where you're
still doing those things, and I think it's it's questions
related to that, you know, uh, call and plays, the
bulk of the like the volume of the offense, how
do you kind of manage those things, and you know,
stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Under center shotgun.

Speaker 10 (01:03:51):
I think everybody likes being a shotgun, but I I
love being able to go under center in this league
because you cannot live in the drop. I don't care
who you are, you know, because even the guys that
are in shocking all the time, they're doing RPOs and
they're doing other things to kind of mix and match
and get easy completions and things like that. If you're
just living in three step and five step drops and

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you're letting the defensive line pin their years back and
come after, you're gonna have a tough time. So I
love the fact that we can go under center and
kind of marry the run. In the past, I think
that's just huge. I think teams do it in different ways,
and for us, it's getting under center a little bit,
and I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
At least they don't have any every now and then
those stories come up. I remind them of that.

Speaker 10 (01:04:35):
My first three years before that CBA hit and John
ran hard camps as it was. I think he learned
from Andy Reid. I told him we had one hundred
and ten, one hundred and twenty plays scripted. We would
run a two minute period and it'd be like ones,
twos threes, ones, twos threes, all right, twos.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Let's go, you get one more.

Speaker 10 (01:05:00):
And it was like whoa, Like we just did a
forty five minute, two minute period, and like, listen, when
I'm telling the stories, of course I embellish.

Speaker 8 (01:05:08):
A little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:05:09):
Probably had a half hour to each practice, but it
was different, you know. And the difference was that even
if even when it got easier in like eleven twenty eleven,
I think everybody that was playing at that point had
been through two days at some point in their life.
Guys that come in the NFL now have never done it.
They've never done it. We're out there for an hour
and fifteen minutes and guys think it's hard, you know,

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like our OTAs were over two hours for sure in Baltimore,
you know, like when I was younger. Yeah, pre pre embellishing.
I'm not embellishing on that. It was legit. In twenty eleven,
we came back from the CBA and you could you
could do a max of three hours on the field.
We did a max of three hours. We did that
three hours on the field of horn blue, no, no

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stretch of horn blue. We all ran we were all
round on the field, and then the horn blew at
the end of practice and we all ran off.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
And it just doesn't it's not like that anymore.

Speaker 10 (01:06:03):
I do tell the guys. I do tell the guys.
I don't want to go back to that. But there
is value in doing that every now and then.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
There just is. And but there's no way we're doing
it anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
I mean, that was a tour deforce, a tour de force,
the voice of your Cleveland Browns joining me here in studio.

Speaker 13 (01:06:19):
Hey, buddy, that's good, he's awesome. So he's becoming And
I just tweeted this, I mean that quote about hey,
will you dance on TikTok? Basically it's the setup he
said that I don't have TikTok, but yeah, if you
do have TikTok, would you dance on TikTok? And he
said the fact that people want to show people, I mean,
that's embarrassing. You're an adult. Be an adult. He's becoming
Larry David. Every time he's on the podium. It's a

(01:06:41):
curb episode and I'm here for it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
I love it.

Speaker 13 (01:06:45):
And he's not becoming Larry David in this anti social
like your neighbors or Susie are going to just scream
at you because you're a bad person. That's not Joe,
quite the opposite. No, but he is unfiltered now, and
I think it's amazing he is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
I was, I was telling you off air. I was
at Memorial a couple of weeks ago and talking to
Jack Nicholas and Jack about four or five years ago,
got to the point where he just stopped caring what
people thought and he just started talking. Would ask him
a question and he just answers it, and I think
that's where Joe is. And we noted this a couple
of weeks ago, like when he was the last time
he was on and you listen to a press conference

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and you ask him a question, prepare for a direct answer,
and that's what you get. Yeah, so he is I
will say this like, and it's what makes this room.
And you were out there and want to get your
thoughts on what you saw practice. But I think it's
what makes this all so unique because he is such
a tour de force. He is so one that he
is someone that everyone in this team looks up to.

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Everybody was here two years ago, remembers how good he
was in December, and there's that part of the muscle
memory too. So that's what makes this is all such
an interesting situation. We find ourselves in a quarterback. If
Flacco hadn't been here and hadn't been great two years
ago for that month, I think it would be a
little bit different. But because we have that muscle memory,
because we remember him all the greatness in Baltimore, and

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he's here and he looks good, plays good, and he's
such a tour to force from a personality standpoint, just
in terms of matter of fact, the way he goes
about his business, it adds an element to the room.

Speaker 13 (01:08:16):
Yeah, I mean that is one way to say it
is an element in the room. I went down the
YouTube rabbit hole. A couple of days ago, somebody on
Brown's reddit and for those listening, yes I do live
a little bit on Brown's reddit posted like a fifteen
minute highlight cutup of the twenty twenty three run down
the stretch.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Yeah right, and you're just like, okay, it's awesome. Okay,
oh wow, I forgot that one. Oh yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 13 (01:08:39):
Of course he threaded the needle on the run to
Amari Cooper and he got down the sideline against the Bears,
and that was amazing and that was, you know, part
of the comeback there. Yeah, I got Bathrow the throws
in Houston, but there's so many other throws, you know,
just third and longs where he completed and you get
twenty yards down in the field to David who makes
one hit to catch.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
You're like, oh wow, yeah, like I forgot all that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
And I don't know if you caught this.

Speaker 13 (01:09:02):
But Miles was asked yesterday, because I've been asked a
thousand times, like, hey, when you interviewed Miles that day
when he did the podium after signing the deal, and
he had that smile on his face where he said
he kind knew what the quarterback plan was Hey, what
was what was it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
What was he thinking?

Speaker 13 (01:09:17):
And I told everybody that was on a zoom and
like there were other people, I didn't have a chance
to follow up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
I have no idea. Yeah, I have no idea what
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Somebody asked yesterday, Miles, was Joe Flacco? Like that was
it Joe Flacco that you knew was coming? And he
didn't say no, and he didn't.

Speaker 13 (01:09:34):
Say yes, but I think people there inferred sure that
it was a yes. And then you see him on
the podium again today and you're like, yeah, I get it. Yeah,
I get it, totally get it. Yeah, No, it's it's
very very good. All right, let's take a break. Then
we're going to go through your observations from camps. We'd
also have Kenny Pickett audio that we want to play

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as well.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Do we have it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Give me we do? We're work efforting. I have Kenny
pick it if you want. Yeah, all right, So we're
gonna take a time out. We're gonna get uh mister
Siciliano's views of practice, and then we'll we'll have Kenny
a little bit later in the program. That's the plan
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BO Bishop Andrew Siciliano with you here, all right. We
emptied out there. Copious notebooks from the g Man and Gibbe.
Obviously it's all about quarterbacks. That's oh yeah, we tack
yeah those guys. What did you What did you make
of what you saw?

Speaker 13 (01:10:52):
I didn't see a lot of Joe Placo today, obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
More than yesterday.

Speaker 13 (01:10:57):
A little more than yesterday. I saw him in the
red little bit as well, red zone. Not great for
Kenny Pickett. But listen, I think when people say, oh,
they're working with the ones, they're working with the twos,
they're working with the threes, people got to realize it
is a mish mash out there. It's not always working
with the ones. Here's Jerry Judy, David njok who, here's
all of the ones. It is a mix and max

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or match situation there. Picking on the red zone not great.
Dylan and Gabriel had a nice ball at the back
of the end zone. He ripped one that I thought
was really good. Guy got his feet down. There was
a bald to Caden Davis I believe from Placo where
Davis ran through the back of the end zone the
former Charge wide receiver who was here late in the
year last year and ran directly in to the stansion.

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Hopefully he is okay. He got back up should or
Sanders in a two minute in a hurry up, moved
the ball down the field so to Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
Dylan Gabriel near the end.

Speaker 13 (01:11:51):
Of practice, they had a two minute situation here for
both of the young quarterbacks, and Gabriel hit a couple
of nice balls to tight ends, one of the Trey
mckitti and now the one to Brendan Bates. So Dylan
Gabriel had his moments today, certainly in that two minute drive.
Picket hit one to Jerry Judy on a crosser as
well where he got down the sideline, so he had

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a good moment in that situation as well. I don't
know that there's a screaming quarterback headline from today. I
really don't. I know, by the way, you'll probably read
articles tomorrow that focus on pickets bad series. And sure
there was a drop in there as well, buying a

(01:12:33):
joke who maybe not the best ball placement in the flat.
So there's a lot to unpack. I don't know that
any of the one quarterbacks truly stood out today.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Yeah, and so to me that the one thing that
I said, and it was just pushing back to our
head coach, who I enjoy a great deal. But I
do think all of this matters, and I think the
notion that that don't pay attention who's with the ones
or the twos. No, No, there are choices that are
being made. Everything that this front office and coaching staff
does is calculated, and it's done for a reason. They're

(01:13:03):
not haphazard with anything. And so the notion of like, oh, yeah,
we're just throwing them out there, I mean, that's just
that's not what's happening. There is a reason for it,
as you mentioned, very little from Joe, and Joe talked
about that in right off the top of the of
the piece that we aired where he said, look, I'd
like to have gotten more, but the reality is they
don't need to see more out of him. They need
to see if one of these three young guys can
be the future quarterback of the Cleveland Browns, not just

(01:13:24):
this year future, but maybe for a couple of years, future,
even longer.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
God willing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Yeah, And I know it sounds.

Speaker 13 (01:13:31):
I said this yesterday training camp, and the three preseason
games will matter, yes, the most.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Look.

Speaker 13 (01:13:39):
I know that you're going to see Dylan Gabriel in
in shod or standards for that matter. But let's take
Dylan Gabriel for example, in a preseason game in which
you roll him out, he's got a clear lay in
a vision, he hits a second level throw and bam,
bam bam they're in the red zone. Theyre putting points
on the board, and people go, Okay, wow, I see
that guy. I know you're gonna have those moments, and

(01:14:01):
I guarantee you're gonna have moments like that for Shador
as well. Luke Flora is gonna have like a three
touchdown damn a game against Carolina and it's gonna be
the best story in town. It's how many of those
moments can they stack I don't in you and I
talked about this again yesterday. I don't remember the last
time we had a legit, legit, legit competition like this
where the results actually do matter, Like you have people

(01:14:22):
out there running around. Go waitmit I had him zero
for two over here. No, no, no, he was one
for two. Wait wait, I had him six six for
eight on that far afield. I don't know that those
numbers really do matter. It's how many good moments can
you string together out there and if you throw, Hey,
there's a good ball, and there's a good ball, and
there's a good decision, but maybe it didn't result in

(01:14:44):
a catch or positive yardage. I think that's what the
coaches are looking at first and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Foremost, absolutely, I think you get the nail on the head.
It's nuanced, but you know when you see it, yes,
And that's that's kind of I think where we're at.
I was you would have a better handle on this
was How open was the forty nine ers pretty Lance
Garoppolo mix? How open was that?

Speaker 13 (01:15:10):
I mean they wanted to give it to Trey Lance
right and Rock Purty just want it, want it well.
Not only did he win it, Lance look bad, it was.
It was two sides of it pretty clearly wanted. Yeah,
but there was no wiggle room for them to go. Well,
but we're gonna give it to train Lance anyway, just
because of where he took him, Like you know, it's

(01:15:30):
going to be a slanted playing field, sure, and we're
gonna give it to him. He couldn't take it, and
Rock pretty clearly could.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
And I'm trying to remember because wasn't garoppolo like on
another field. I can't remember when he was going to
come and back from an injury there or if he was.
Maybe they had just put him in bubble wrap because
they they were gonna move on and they kept him
off on the other field.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Yeah, that sounds right. But remember I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Forgetting because it's so there just aren't many instances of
this where you have a true, wide open four guys
situation and it's weighted, I mean to the point to
where you know Joe saying I'd like to get more reps,
but the reality is we don't. We don't need to
see him doing any.

Speaker 13 (01:16:13):
Joe also said a couple of weeks ago that he
realizes he probably needs the fewest reps as everybody, so
both can be true. Absolutely, you realize you need the fewest,
but hey, you're a competitor, as he said, you want
to be out there slinging it. You'd rather be a
participant in practice rather than an observer. I just it's
going to be a roller coaster.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 13 (01:16:34):
The guy that looks the best in week one, chances
are as luck will have its probably in the preseason,
not going to be the guy that looks the best.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
In week two.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
I am.

Speaker 13 (01:16:43):
I think the joint practices will be huge, huge.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
I think I think the practices leading up to the
joint practices are going to be just as huge. From
the standpoint of deciding who gets to have those reps, Yeah,
that's fair. Who's who's going to take those reps? Because
that and by that point and this is I think
Kevin's coming in with us tomorrow. I think that's probably.
And he's not gonna give me a timeline. I've interviewed
him enough to know that I'm not going to get

(01:17:11):
a direct answer on it. But I think the way
I'll phrase it is, in your mind's eye, do you
have a date where you have to have this narrowed?
And he's got to and and I'm sure he won't
divulge it, but like, you can't be doing this for
long in camp. You can do it a little bit,
and then you got to This isn't college football where

(01:17:31):
you've got one hundred practices and three hour it's not
that it's a tight window and there's finite amount of time,
and you got a lot of work you got to
get done in a hurry, and you got a bunch
of new faces. You're installing kind of a new offense
that's different from what you ran last year. So there's
a lot that's got to get done a short amount
of time.

Speaker 13 (01:17:48):
I think you want to you want to know before
the final preseason game. Whether you announce it is another question.
But I also think it matters who's the guy, Like
if it's going to be one of the two rookies,
you want to figure that out before that final week
because you don't want to just toss the kid the
keys in the week after like Labor Day weekend. By

(01:18:11):
the way, you're going to be the starter. That's not
good for anybody. No, no, now, now what good what
would be great is if it's actually a difficult decision
between one of those two kids at that point, yeah,
and then maybe you do drag it out because they're
both still fighting and there's both still you know, there's
value there for both.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
I'll give you we got about a minute left, non quarterback.
What caught your attention?

Speaker 13 (01:18:36):
I think both running backs move really, really well. I
think Carson Schwestinger is going to contribute immediately.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
And listen.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
We talked to.

Speaker 13 (01:18:47):
Deontay Johnson afterwards. I don't know if we're going to
play that. He was a little defiant. I was defiant.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
He wanted to move forward not.

Speaker 13 (01:18:54):
Look back, which I think from a mental health perspective,
is fantastic. At the same time, you know, people want
to ask, hey, what happened to Baltimore?

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
Did you really quit?

Speaker 6 (01:19:02):
You know?

Speaker 13 (01:19:02):
Why did you have three teams give up on you
last year and another team seemingly fight your professional advancement
by squatting on your rights and not letting you leave
out of spite?

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Yep, right, he didn't want to go there.

Speaker 13 (01:19:14):
But look, if he's good and he's right both in
this building and on the field, he's a legit weapon.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
Like a legit legit weapon.

Speaker 13 (01:19:25):
When he was having a good year before fell a
part in Carolina, a very good year. He said Kenny
pick was one of the factors in coming here, and
he also conceded the Browns were the only team that culled.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Maybe it can be a marriage that maybe looks for everybody.
We'll see. Speaking of Kenny Pikett, you will hear from
him coming up next to listen to Cleveland Browns Daily
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Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
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Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
I'm picking the last time we talked to you, you know,
even more comfortable. What's your state of being? Yeah, yeah,
I do, I do.

Speaker 6 (01:20:31):
I think the more the more reps you get in
the new system.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
You just feel better.

Speaker 6 (01:20:35):
You know, some of these things are new to me
and a lot of guys here, so have an opportunity
to physically rep it definitely helps.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Kenny and the Steelers. You're two years there. Did you
you want to play taking?

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
We were not much not much play action? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Is that a challenge or an easy easy for you?

Speaker 6 (01:20:53):
I think it's just something that like like kind of you,
you rep it, you get a lot better out. I
feel like it's it's come pretty pretty easily so far,
and in this camp and the mini camp at OTAs after, like,
you know, really comfortable going through the play action footwork
and the fakes, uh and getting getting to where I
need to be on time. So yeah, a little bit,
a little bit we were we were more gunning in Pitts,
so not as much you know under center play action.

(01:21:16):
I mean some things.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
A lot of people have talked about the diversity of
experience in.

Speaker 9 (01:21:19):
The quarterback room and how that has been all a
high level.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Of the conversation, and you give us an example of
the conversation you've had.

Speaker 8 (01:21:24):
Do you feel like a flex pache?

Speaker 6 (01:21:26):
Yeah? I think you know, if we have a concept
that may be new to me, and I asked Joe
about it, and he's had it in the past. That's
kind of where the conversation starts, just getting another opinion
on how he's read it in the past, and footwork
stuff like that. So that's just one example, but there's
plenty of And we're in the film room and some
guy has a question, Usually everybody kind of gives her
two cents and we all talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
What's an example of its.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
Time though, where we can ask you a question and
answer that probably, uh, just going through a read and footwork.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Me and Shuder talk about that a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:21:57):
You know, whether you're taking three, five, seven from Under Center,
you know there's different fullworks for each play, and I
think you know more of the under centered stuff. I'd
say the college guys have more questions about just it's
just something new that they haven't done.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
So, you know, hopefully I can.

Speaker 6 (01:22:09):
Give them some good insight, you know, on things that
I do, things that Joe does to help them out.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Kenny, as we come to the end of the spring,
I feel like.

Speaker 6 (01:22:18):
What you're wanted to Yeah, yeah, I think you know,
coming in learning the system, you know, getting to meet
my teammates and and building that bond and just working
every day. You have to take it a day at
a time. We're installing new things every day, so you know,
you may get that player that you haven't run one time,
you know, and you have to take advantage of it.
So I think it's gone really well so far.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
How much a building that bet it's organic and how
much you as a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
For everything to prove the chemistry?

Speaker 6 (01:22:41):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's you know, it's it's always organic.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
I think in football, everyone you know, we're.

Speaker 6 (01:22:46):
All doing the same thing, We're all in the same mission. Uh,
this is a great locker room to be in. So
just being able to hang out with guys outside of football,
outside of the field, whether it's on the golf course
and the cafeteria, getting invite to eat, whatever it may be.
I think it's always a good time to get to
know your teammates.

Speaker 11 (01:23:00):
Does it help to have Miles Scarret to look out
there and see that he's there and know that if
you probably if you can get past him pretty much?

Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
Yeah, his presences and felt in two days I could
tell you that obviously playing against him, you know, I
understood that coming into it, but you know, I had
a scrambler today and I was running down the right side.
He was chasing me down like twenty five thirty yards
down the field. So you know his effort and what
he brings to the table we all know. Uh So
it's great to have him here in your.

Speaker 8 (01:23:25):
Two years at fifth third, steven there's he had six
with quarters comeback attributed to you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
How do you kill for that?

Speaker 6 (01:23:34):
I'd just say preparation, and it's it's the ultimate team game,
so you know, you need all other ten.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
Guys on the field to do their job as well.

Speaker 6 (01:23:40):
So I've been a part of great teams. I've had
great teammates that you know, when it comes down to it,
with the work that we put in, I trust that
they're gonna be where I need to be. They know
that I'm prepared and I'm gonna get the ball where
it needs to be. Uh So it's a it's a
complete team game, and that's you know. We started the
two minute stuff today and I thought it went really well.
So it was a good start for that.

Speaker 8 (01:23:57):
Started off about developing the bond with teammates and everything.
Obviously and weak or so you guys are gonna bring
for you know, kind of off season. How do you
continue that and build off of that while you're kind
of away from here, you know, during that period.

Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
But yeah, hopefully there's times where we you know, we
can get together maybe once in this next five weeks,
you know, wherever that may be, to get you know,
a couple of throwing sessions in hang out, you know,
like I said, go golf and just you know, be
around each other for a weekend. You know, could definitely
just help continue to build those bonds during that off
time when you were with the.

Speaker 9 (01:24:30):
Steel Yester may mentioned just about your cabridery you know,
being around you, being around Joe, being around.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
The Shawn and just the room that you guys have built.

Speaker 9 (01:24:40):
Also at the same time, you're competing for one job
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Yeah, just from your perspective, you know, what's.

Speaker 9 (01:24:47):
It like, what's that dynamic like where you're trying to
help out the kids, but also at the same time
you're trying to.

Speaker 6 (01:24:54):
Compete for now. I don't think like I like I
said the first time, you know, we kind of talked
about it. It's just such a natural thing that happens
in all.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
The quarterback rooms that I've been in.

Speaker 6 (01:25:01):
You just become you're you're around each other for so
many hours, you become friends. You know, you're always joking
about stuff like you become really good friends and you're
working and competing at the same time. So it's been
a natural progression in every room I've been in, and
this one's doing, you know, the exact same thing.

Speaker 9 (01:25:16):
About Well, yeah, practice, but I don't want to ask
you about preparing for him when you were with the Steelers,
Well what was what was that preparation?

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
Like, yeah, you're gonna get four hands on him at
all times, you know, especially third downs you're you're sliding,
you're chipping, you're putting two men on them, and that
just affects everything in the past game because that takes
out an underneath route where guys can start dropping underneath.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Second level, third level throws.

Speaker 6 (01:25:40):
So, uh, he's truly a game record player, you know,
in terms of.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
A game plan.

Speaker 6 (01:25:45):
So you always have to you know, know where ninety
five is and have a platform.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Kevin was talking.

Speaker 12 (01:25:49):
About social media being like an outside the ways amplifier.

Speaker 6 (01:25:53):
I know, you guys try not to pay time and
ask him like your friends and family.

Speaker 12 (01:25:57):
Though, like, how do you have to ever try to
like say, hey, guys, like that stuff doesn't really matter,
Like what are those conversations?

Speaker 6 (01:26:02):
Yeah, I luckily, you know, going into my fourth year
in the league and playing college football. I think everyone's
pretty used to it by now, which is a really
good thing. So you know, no one really talks about it,
you know, which is great. You know, when I'm home,
I'm home and relaxing, and uh, I just want to
spend time with my family and workers work. So how
can you, I mean, like, you are.

Speaker 12 (01:26:22):
Part of generation that like grew up without a fol
without social media and stuff. Some of these younger guys
just been a part of their whole life, right, So
how can you empathize with them as they try to
navigate the world that that's their.

Speaker 6 (01:26:32):
Real world sometimes, Yeah, which is a shame.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
It's a shame.

Speaker 6 (01:26:35):
It should never be considered the real world what you
see online and stuff. So hopefully nobody, you know, buys
into that. But I think the guys are handling it well.
You know, I'd never even thought about that. That's pretty true.
You know, I don't think it started coming around so
I was like thirteen fourteen, So yeah, it's different, different
world growing up in the social media I think these
guys handling really well. Tun it.

Speaker 11 (01:26:52):
If you had an opportunity to spend a little bit
of time so far here with Deonte, knowing him the
way that you do, and if so, uh, do you
think that maybe you can be a little instrumental in
making sure that he kind of acclimates well to the team.
Obviously last year he had some ups and doubts and
what can your role be and kind of helping him?

Speaker 6 (01:27:12):
Yeah, just help him anyway I can. You know, I
was talking to him a lot today in the field,
you know, in the two minute period, going to the play,
calls with him where he would be if he was
at Z or X or F and kind of, you know,
talking him through each play. So know, he's working really
hard at it. It's great to have him here, and uh,
you know, I'm gonna I know that he's gonna continue
to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
You weren't Philly last year, but from a distance where
you'd like, what the heck's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
H Yeah, you were in Philly last year, illustrated and
waved twice.

Speaker 6 (01:27:38):
See yeah, I I honestly I didn't really know what
was going on. I try to stay off everything during
the season. But you know, listen, I'm really happy that
he's here. You know, I think he could really help
us the things that he can do with his route
running and ability. So it's good to happen here.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
When he's at his best.

Speaker 11 (01:27:53):
What what can he bring to the table for you.

Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
Guys one on one? You know, he gets separation, you know,
I think he doesn't really good job of getting separation
out the line at the top of his routes, you know,
in and out of cuts. I think he's probably his
biggest strength. You know, he gets in and out really well.
So a lot of those third down possession down you know,
route running which you need to be precise out. I
think he can bring that.

Speaker 9 (01:28:15):
Wa Kevin splits you guys up on your field so
everyone can get and you bring amount of reps.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Just how helpful has that been?

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:28:24):
You know, when you're dealing with the format and the
rotation here so that you know you're able to maximize
your time and here right turn.

Speaker 6 (01:28:32):
Yeah, it's big, it's big, and the more reps you get,
the more comfortable you'd be. You know. Unfortunately, in a
situation like this, you may only get one play one
time in the entire camp. Uh, so you got to
try to maximize as much as you can. Whether it
goes good or bad, you can always learn from it,
which is great. But you know, as many reps as
you can get, it's it's extremely valuable at this point,
especially being on a new team and new guys.

Speaker 9 (01:28:53):
Kevin as in the developer of quarterbacks, it has like
what you've heard kind of match.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
Them to your experience.

Speaker 6 (01:28:58):
Yeah, no, to a t everything I expected coming into it.
You know, he's probably exceeded that just is the knowledge
of his system that he's been in for a long.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Time and how he understands.

Speaker 6 (01:29:07):
Quarterback play and what it's like to be back there
and kind.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Of you know, the clock that we're on and what
we have to do, you know, to be successful. So
it's been awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:29:15):
And he sits in every quarterback meeting and he's part
of all those conversations that we mentioned earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
So it's been awesome.

Speaker 11 (01:29:20):
We're not going to see you now until the start
of training. He ever talked to you until started training there.
So I know you've worked out some with Jerry.

Speaker 13 (01:29:27):
Judy off on your own.

Speaker 11 (01:29:31):
What kind of are your plans and do you guys
maybe as an offense have some plans to try to
get all together somewhere.

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
Yeah, I've talked to you know, Jerry and Thrash about
it actually in Joe's in New Jersey and I'll be
back in New Jersey as well, So hopefully we can
work something out. We can get you know, two or
three days in the middle of the break to you know,
continue to build that timing and hang out off the
field before we get ready to go into a big season.

Speaker 9 (01:29:53):
Deyonce has run after catchability.

Speaker 12 (01:29:55):
How do you balance and trying to let him cook
with and then you have a first.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Down he'd like to run backwards there.

Speaker 6 (01:30:01):
I mean, yeah, that's probably a Deionte question, but yeah,
my job is to get the ball in his hands
and he's gonna go try and get as many yards
you can answer. How do you feel about the question of.

Speaker 11 (01:30:11):
The fact that you are kind of having to make
sure that what is in the offense is gonna work
for you guys, and what isn't shouldn't be there, isn't
going to be there, and a lot of that I
think is kind of falling on you at this point.
How's that going while you're also trying to look great
and win the job.

Speaker 6 (01:30:28):
Yeah, you're you know, like there's a conversation we have, Like,
you know, it's kind of trial and error. We may
try one play and we don't love it, it gets
thrown out for the season. So that kind of goes
into that you only get one play once. You know,
If you hit it, it's great, it stays. If it
doesn't look great, it may be out. So it's kind
of a trial process for some new plays. That's that's
what this time is for. This time is not to
be perfect. It's to try new things, you know, test

(01:30:49):
timing with teammates, you know, and push yourself. So I think,
you know, it's gone well so far.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Hard to believe. Just one more buddy tomorrow and then
we break for summer and then we're back. Rookies are
in the building next week, but not on the field.
Look at you see there you go, they're in the building.

Speaker 13 (01:31:06):
Yeah, tomorrow's the last day and then school's out for summer.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Yeah, and it'll be fun to see one more day
of this and see how it all goes, and we'll
be back here tomorrow to break it out of down.
I think coach is going to join us here in
studio amazing that to look forward to, which is nice.
The next level is coming up next. Thanks for listen, everybody,
Cleveland Browns Daily, fifty ESPN Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
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