Tommy Rees: “We want to play sound football” - Cleveland Browns Daily - 11.6.25

On this Thursday in Berea, Z sits down with Browns QB Dillon Gabriel (39:08) for an exclusive interview on his first four NFL starts. You’ll also hear from new Browns play caller OC Tommy Rees (21:51) and DC Jim Schwartz (1:03:35) on this week’s Matchups. Plus, get your fantasy minute (1:20:24) and this week’s Mailbag (1:23:58)!

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
I still live on a Thursday dish of Cleveland Browns Daily.
I am merely Bo. He is the Great Z and
I believe this is the quote that sets the tone
for this show. I was blanking dialed in Jason Gibbs.
That's all you need to know, right, How is Jason?
I don't think he was. I don't think the Great

(00:58):
Gibbe was dialed in at all.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
As a matter of fact, and I have been dialed
in jmex locked in. We have put together a program
for you two.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
You have for the people, not for us, for the people.
It's for the people. It's a matchup date, it's everything
that you want. We got Dylan Gabriel with Ze in
studio on the program.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
You have.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
That's my ability swipe gibbets YETI right in front of
his face, speaks to my ability to move in silence.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
A mail Bagh mail Bag Thursday and my Chippewaw Roots.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh my god, Last of the Mohicans.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Can't it?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, that's right. What a movie, what a score. I
haven't seen it in a long time, got a dial
it probably thirty years, I would say, I've only seen
it once. What, Yeah, I think once. I mean it's
a choice. It's long, right, No? Is it like three?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Really no No, it's not an epic of like when
they do that to you.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It was definitely a movie in college where I'm like,
at one point of this movie and I start making
out with the girl.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Nineteen ninety two. Michael Man, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna
say two fifteen to twenty max.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
One hour fifty two. You know, it's interesting fifty two.
I think the way you feel about Mohicans is the
way that I feel about heat. And they're both Michael Mann, Yeah,
he did both. Our fifty two does that too bad?
Is that's not bad? That's dole. Our fifty two is doable.
I'll eat fifty Oh, I know it's a that's a
full day. And then you can cut some of it.

(02:23):
You don't need all of the Mohican. That's why heats
the best one of the great rewatchable movies because you're
really only if it's on one of those channels it
has commercials. Yeah, mutch for a little while. Yes, yeah,
I don't. I definitely don't know this.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
What.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh it's a less than Mohican soundtrack.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, no, i'd together, but I'm just saying I don't.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
All right, you need to me this favor because we
have great affection for each other. You need to watch it,
all right and be dialed. This is like it requires dialing.
You can watch it with the with the lady. She'll
love it. Beautiful romance, it's it's stunning. The lat One Stowe,
Madeline Stowe. No matter what, man, no matter what occurs,
I will find you.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yes, you stay alive, Stay alive. I guess chingatch cook. Uh.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
It's got a great villain Magua west Study unbelievable And
the last like thirteen minutes of the movie, there's no
dialogue till the very end. It's just that kind of
song but like building to a crescendo. But that soundtrack
beautiful scenery. It's actually shot Carolina in Carolina yep in

(03:28):
by Chimney rock Yep and it's just like everything unfolds
and all you hear are like, you know, just the
sounds of everything on full but no dial just you
don't even need it. It's mesmerizing, it's been a long time,
and then and then sad. You're gonna be like, oh my,
it's one of the great it's one of the great
American film achievements.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I think what what happens with a lot of that
stuff is if it doesn't get circulated to you on
I mean, people don't have traditional A lot of people
aren't having traditional cable. Although I think I'm kind of
winning with it right now based on everything that's gone
and and so if you're not on like that and
it's it's not fed to you, like I haven't even

(04:08):
seen it, I'm gonna have to seek it out to
see if it's even if it's streaming anywhere.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
First of all, I own it as you should. I
bought it on Amazon Prime, as you should do everybody.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't know that. I yeah, I don't know everybody
should own I think it's possible. I wanted to see
what I may could own.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
I bet for five ninety nine you could own this
film for your life, for the rest of my life.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
They could pass it on to your children.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Can you do that? Why not?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
How would they know the Amazon? I guess you could,
just like I guess, they just would be stuck with
my login forever. That's the way that would go.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
So anyway, so I want you to watch it all
I wrote that down unbelievable and then and then listen
to the Rewatchables pod on it, which is incredible.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
There.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, I just I think I I've just given you
three of the most funny you did that because I
actually did that this week. I had seen Once a Time,
Once upon a Time in Hollywood one time, and I
remember thinking that I didn't like it very much. And
then it was on the FX when I was on
Monday night. As I was bouncing around, I watched the scene.

(05:18):
I'm like, why would I not like this? It's Dicabrio, Tarantino,
all of it. So then I rented it Tuesday night. Yeah,
Tuesday night, I rented it and I watched it and
I'm like, this is awesome.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
I don't know why I didn't. There's a lot of
first time I didn't love it the first time either.
I thought there were a lot of good scenes. Yeah,
I didn't think it was necessarily like a great.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I mean at the end, I'm cheering. It's funny. Because
I watched it the first time. It's possible that I
bailed before the very end because I knew what was coming,
or I thought I knew what was coming. Yeah, and
then it goes the way that it goes, and I'm like,
that's great. Yeah, it's fantastic. Yeah, it's the same I
did with Inglorious Bastards. I'm just to change the history. Yeah,
to do it my way. It's good. It's better, it's better.

(06:03):
It's better what I missed yesterday. How did you do
on the Guests of Scores? He has gibbe, how do
you do on Guests of Scores?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Well, you got a new philosophy on how to beat
the system from a listener. So I think we don't
have to cancel the segment.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh no, it's no, it's no good because you're too good.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, you become he went he started off eight and two.
Oh jeez, I think you went nine and four.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Limbtum. It might have to be a thing. Maybe we
have to change it because of your success. Maybe you
have to change it where you have to get it
exactly right.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
See I brought that up yesterday. He was not having
any of them.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
No, But I mean like at this point, like you've
won this championship, He's kind of like, you're the intercontinental champion.
I have won this championship. You've won it. It's done,
it's acknowledged, you're the champion. And in order for you
to be the heavyweight champion, we have to graduate to perfection.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
I think that the standard then should be a standard
for a win should be you think it should be.
I think it's like if I can get if I
could get six out of sixteen on the number on.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
It on it, Yeah, there's no other way to do
it unless you did. The only other thing you could
do is if you kept it at a half point,
but you couldn't go over like prices right it Like
it's a half point without going over, Like I mean,
that's just arbitrary. But just try and find find something
that we could put on it that would make it.

(07:23):
We do the exact but i'd have to get if
what constitutes a win.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I'm willing to give it another shot next week. Let's
see what happens.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
He hasn't had a single losing r.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, but like this week we started got he got
though not We're we're giving the solid answer. There's no
hook because someone gave him.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's a cheaty, a little bit of a cheat code.
It's all year. It's a shift in their philosophy. Yes,
there used to be a plenty of a three. It
was a three, a six A lot of times you
see put Now everything is with the hook, but right
both ways. It used to be a lot of whole numbers.
It could be four, five, it could be six. It's

(08:08):
always now it's always a hook because I don't thin
they don't want any push us. They either want it
wins or losses. Yeah, mostly they want losses. But that's yeah,
because it's there's never you never get a whole number anymore. Well,
I'm looking at it.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
So last week, last week there were in the entirety
of the lines, there were three whole numbers. Baltimore was
minus seven, Chargers were minus nine, and Arizona was plus three.
Those were the only whole numbers. The week before. Yeah,
there wasn't a single whole number the week before that,

(08:43):
not a single whole number. So I was out there
guessing on the halves yeah, and the whole numbers didn't
need to do it, didn't need to weekfore that there
was one Arizona, Indy was seven. So they're when they
move lines out, they're moving them a full point. They're
not doing it half because that would get them on
a whole number again.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, I mean, this is it's a big shift here.
Let me, oh, you know what, I get to do
real quick, just for fun, just for fun. Since we've
got a second here, I'm going to go back into
the archives. Yeah, and I'm going to go back to
I should have our picks of every single year, even
on the even on those you have them. Yeah, I

(09:19):
know that you have like our picks, picks and all
that stuff in the in your dock there, but I
don't know. I didn't know that you had that. You
were doing this too. All right, So going back to
twenty twenty four, for example, I just picked a random week. Okay,
in week thirteen. This is twenty twenty four. This is
not that long ago. Last year two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten of the sixteen were whole numbers.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
See it's done. They're done with that. So they're yeah,
it's it's same in college. There's no whole numbers anymore
in college either, So that is a mass seven and
a half, nine and a half, ten and a half,
six and a half. You don't ever get a whole
number anymore. So philosophically, they just everything's got a hook. Yeah,
this is yeah, this is it. It's another winning week there.

(10:02):
Good job to you. Oh yeah, give me so unhappy.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Man.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I gave him, I gave him his credit. I mean,
these two the love fest, it was gross.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Little man there jacked up his a little cheerleader on
the sidelines.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Mini me.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
I was sitting in near sea and you can see
it's like no, no, So g Man was in his
ormal seats. I couldn't say, was like, g Man, come
over here so I can see. We can get the
proper you know, adelation after it, each after each.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
By the way, the debutante chiming in, she's watching the program.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Oh I have missed, Debutante.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Last of the Mohicans and The Hunger Games both shot
in her hometown of Asheville, North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Right, how about that Hunger she had built Jimney Rock.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
She said, Hunger Games came to my middle school casting extra. Okay,
you're in middle school. Might have been on marriage number
one at one point. For me, it's a good extras.
I didn't want to miss class. Of course.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
She's a debutante and a parent a Biltmore. Aren't they
down there?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Is?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Are they Vanderbilts? The Biltmore's down there, right, that's Asheville.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Do I have that right?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't know that massive? Yeah, the state, the state.
It's in Nashville, right that I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
She'll chime in quickly on that. I'm pretty sure I
have it right. It was the largest, the largest home
in America ever built, the Biltmore House, Ashville, North Carolina. Absolutely,
you've not seen that place. I've not been to that place.
I've not been there either, but you're aware of it.
I'm aware of it.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I also like very built in Scottsdale. Well, the one
in Santa Barbara's very nice too, right on the water. Yeah,
lovely Spanish California architecture. Let's go, Oh Spaniards. You should
see the coliseum.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Oh Spaniard.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
That's a nice drop into what a day for us?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Did you do college football?

Speaker 6 (11:47):
Nate?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
We did not, all right, because we did a little
College Football Nate on Tuesday. I want to go back,
but I think we've thrown our things out.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
We had it.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
So Texas, Heck, and unless I'm mistaken, wasn't even in
at all. No, they were, they were in. But Texas
and Oklahoma were at their first two they were eleven
and twelve. They were both out.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, so Texas Tech wasn't yeah them n B y
v N. But they play this weekend, so it's all
going to sort itself out over the course the next month.
But yeah, yeah, there you go. A couple of things
from US today. A DNP for Carson Swessinger high ankle
spring revealed in the locker room today, So that is
that's not great. He's been one of the one of

(12:26):
the big time bright smiles now but they're not rolling
them out yet. They're they're still I think they think
that they're still some potential. We'll see. He's uh, he's
just had an awesome year, So that would be. That'd
be a tough one. Also, not practice to day, Isaiah
Bond and Harold Fan and junr So that is all
three rookies out today. What are your thoughts on those three?

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Well, the one that I would be the most concerned
about there is is Harold fannin junr. Yeah, because where
did that come from?

Speaker 2 (12:58):
No reason why.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
We were talking Frickers and his BG visit over the
weekend down in the.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Cafe without the BEG context. We were talking. What did
you just say? We were talking Frickers, Frickers, I'm gonna
needs wings.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay, it's where he it's where he's wand it's where
he took coach and ab when they came here.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Just said he said he didn't see him. Maybe he
was a late arrival.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Well, I mean that that's all. That's all individual work.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Oh, this place looks pretty solid.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
If you want to take the boys. If you ever
had a game in Northwest Ohio, like there you go
a game, Oh yeah, take the boys.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
To I this looks like the boar's nest on Dukes
of Hazzard.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
You're pretty close.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I mean that looks great.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
If you just need to feed, you just need to
feed the team in Northwest Ohio.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
That's solid. Is practice over?

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Should be wrapping up now. The wutant said, yeah to
the biltmore the air was my childhood crush, had it?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
There you go, I'm not mistakes. She could have married
into society. Yeah, she's been introduced into society, but she
could have married into it. I mean, she could have
been a Vanderbilt. I'm not worried about Harold Fannon. All right,
there you go, that's what matters most. We're not worried
about Harold Fannon. So that's solid. That's solid. What about Bond?
You worried about him a little more worried about Bond?

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Enough from the clown big Frickers guy too. Did you guys.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Used to do the Urban Meyer call in show from Frickers,
Same with a Dan Dackitch call in show.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Those that had to be a scene. The Dockach one
had to be a scene. Urban at that time was
probably still pretty following, you know, keep it between.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
The navigator rode in on the coaching part of it.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, was he when you when you were doing that
with him? Did he have the Uh? What I loved
about him at Ohio State and Florida was just he
just you asked him a question, you got a direct answer.
So I just loved that.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I didn't I did doc Its show, I didn't do
Urban Show. I came back a couple of times visited
Dave d Natally, my good friend. Yah, yeah, yeah, ky c.
He he did the Urban Meyer Collins show. Okay, herb
focused locked in, locked in.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
He just such a and he would give you direct Yeah,
just ask a question, get an answer.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
It was such a difference from Tress, who would filibuster
forever and never answer anything. And you're like, I don't
even know what just happened. I've been here for an hour.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
I don't know what that was.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
I have no clue. And I like him everybody, I
like them both, but like, I don't know what just happened.
And then Urban, you get Urban. It's like you asked
me a question, I'll give you an answer next question.
Oh okay, Well that's refreshing. I guess we have our answers. Yeah,
on all of that, all right, there you go, inching closer.
What'd you guys make of the cabs in the unis?
Hold on?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
What did your kid do last night?

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
They had so they had meeting hand out, they had
the they had the It's a really cool thing that
the Calves do and and we've done it now. This
will be our third year in a row doing it.
The last uh, the last two or three years, we've
done it with Aurora. And you go to Rocket Mortgage
and you is that what it's called still? Yeah, just

(16:19):
Rocket Arena, Rocket Arena, Rocket Arena, Rocket Arena. That's a
lot of names, Dan, I know, it's a lot. It's
still the cue to me. So you go down there
and you, uh, so they are fifth grade team versus Aurora.
Was the first basketball game on that court.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
So like they were the first ones to play on
the throwback court. So Beamsy's a sixth grader, so we
played after them. But so we went down we played
and it's unbelieved. It's so cool, Like the kids are
so jacked up. There's a real one, really over zealous
security guy that was worried about a lot of things.
That we're all going to be fine. It's all going
to be fine. Just middle school parents, it's all going

(16:59):
to be fine. Like moms can walk across a section
to say hello to their children.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
It'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Like it's no one's going to make a mess with that.
It's fine. It's all going to be fine. But the
experience was awesome. You could see it's yeah, experience was
awesome and it's just a really cool thing that they do.
And then everybody I had to go. I had a
basketball practice with Bootsy, so I had to go home,
and I wasn't able to stay for the game, but
my wife stayed and Beamsy stayed, and they all stay

(17:23):
for the game. And they down in like the high
five lane and all that stuff, so they're down on
the courts. They get to do all of that and
it's just really cool. It's just a great job. I think,
a really out of the box thing that they do
that brings people there on a Wednesday night that otherwise
wouldn't right and gives you an experience, like they discount

(17:44):
the tickets all this stuff, so it gets it hooks you,
hooks you as a kid, it hooks you right like
you have to play. I mean, it's such a cool experience.
So that was awesome, and they had a ball and
we thank the Cabs for that because they it's a
really cool thing that they do and those uniform So
I didn't stay for the game, but they had them
in like all the stores. As I was walking by

(18:05):
of that era, I remember thinks it's funny because I
remember that era. I just moved here towards the end
of that era, moved up from Florida, and it just
amazingly that those uniforms remind me more of Lebron than
the ones they wore when they won the title, Like, yes,
those ones, Yes, the blue one and then the wine
one in the white, those three. I just think of him,

(18:28):
and I was thinking about this. There was a there
was a you can't afford to miss a single game
component to him. Yes, it was like as if Bo
Jackson would have played for like seven years in your
hometown and played every game. I mean, it was just
such a he was such a physical marvel. I was
thinking about this a lot last night and then into

(18:48):
this morning, about how if you would watch every single game.
I don't watch every single game of anything that does
eighty two or one hundred and sixty one anymore. I
don't know that kind of time. But in those days
you would watch all but because you didn't know what
you would see the way that he just relentlessly attacked
the rim like just such reckless abandon it just and
we've never up and tell him we'd never seen somebody

(19:10):
that big, that strong, that fast, that bouncy move like that.
He's six eight two forty five and he moved like
he was six two two o five and it just
was anyway, So all that came rushing back seeing those
uniforms and they're great. I don't know if I thought
they were great in the moment. I never ever really
considered them. But there is a power. That's that power

(19:32):
of nostalgia when you get that that feeling of nostalgia
of oh wow, that that brings me right back to that.
So that's and to see that was pretty cool. And
the idea that he's still playing in those uniforms are
throwbacks is crazy.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, you know, that's I think that's the craziest part
of all this. And yeah, like the guys that are
currently playing on the Cavaliers, how old they were when
he started this journey.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Oh my god, Like some of them are weren't even born?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Correct?

Speaker 6 (19:59):
No?

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, yeah, no, some of them were even born. I
mean it's yeah, it's it's absolutely stupefying. But they do
a great job. The show presentation, I mean, the game
presentation is great. They yeah they did Okay, they did
all right. They took care of their business the way
that's all you kind of a yeah, yeah, they were
a little rusty, little clunky, but handled their business and

(20:21):
it was fun. It was really fun, and there were
our folks are great and so it's a good mix.
Everybody wins on that side of things.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
So it was good.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
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day years.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Coach Rees, how do you feel about taking over the
play calling duties and what do you feel you can
bring to the table and kind of stamp do you.

Speaker 8 (22:11):
Want to put out?

Speaker 9 (22:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (22:12):
I really think mentality here from the beginning was like
whatever is asked to me last year, this year, whatever
the organization it's going to ask and me want to
do that, you know, my fullest capabilities. Excited about the
opportunities certainly, but try not to think of it in
those terms, like we have a job to do as
a staff, myself, players included, like focus really on having

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a great week of preparation, making sure that we're putting
our best foot forward, using the bye week to improve
some you know, some areas where we really need to
improve on. And you know, ultimately then you know, call
a good game on Sunday.

Speaker 11 (22:46):
Obviously, on Sunday a change your you know, your role
and stuff changes. But from Monday through Saturday, how much
does that change? What what what you have to do
and kind of what's you know, what's asked of you.

Speaker 10 (23:00):
Yeah, I think we're fortunate to have a really good
staff that you can collaborate with lean on. Obviously, Kevin,
this week has been great. The rest of the staff
has been great, you know, Bloom and CEO and some
of the guys that you lean on throughout the week.
You know, your job changes a little bit, right, like
you're having final stamp power on the game plan and
where you see things falling and what's going to make

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it to Sunday. So that certainly changes, but the collaborative nature.

Speaker 9 (23:24):
Of it does not.

Speaker 10 (23:25):
Ultimately, you're making the final decision, which, like I said,
changes things a bit, but process goes on as normal
outside of that final part.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Conclusion you drew after the bye week about the passing game.

Speaker 10 (23:38):
Yeah, look, there's a lot of areas there we need
to improve, and then the passing game, like we've said
from the jump, takes all eleven. Certainly, we want to
stress defenses in probably some ways that we have not
yet been able to or not able to connect on,
you know, feature the guys that we can lean on
and make our quarterback feel comfortable.

Speaker 9 (23:56):
So, you know, the bye weeks are always great.

Speaker 10 (23:58):
We could we need the reset to kind of look
at things, make sure that we're doing the best things
for our players, best things for our quarterbacks.

Speaker 9 (24:05):
And I feel like we have a good plan moving forward.

Speaker 12 (24:07):
I think you've learned when you're calm plays Notre Dame
in Alabama, and do you think calling them in the
NFL will be any different?

Speaker 10 (24:16):
Look, you learn every time you call plays, right, you know,
I started calling plays the last game of the season
in twenty nineteen. You know, had a handful of years
there in a row calling them, called them in big games,
called them in games people didn't watch everywhere in between.
Worked for two head coaches that are pretty intense on
game day. So obviously you learn how to block out

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some noise, some friendly fire there. But I think you
get into a groove, you get into a comfort level.
So much of it is about learning your own team,
learning your own quarterback.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
You know.

Speaker 10 (24:46):
Fortunate for me, I've been able to be here, sit
with Dylan, be with the offense. I know kind of
what helps him, what makes him click. I think, you know,
got a good feel for our personnel here. That's so
important when it comes to calling games. And then you know,
you get into a rhythm throughout the game of figuring
out what from the plan works, what you need to
adjust what they're doing to try to take some things away,
and then you're just looking to build counters and things

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that can compliment what you've already tried to set up.
But I think every time you call a game, you learn,
every time you even for me in the role I've
been in, like you learn as you're putting yourself in
the shoes to call a game again, you know, as
you're listening and observing and helping, you know. I think
those were critical moments for me to move forward on.
So I like the NFL part. I think these last

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couple of years, just being in the position I've been
and seeing it first hand, I don't have a whole
lot of concern there.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
I mean the fact that you've.

Speaker 13 (25:36):
Got some so many young skilled players on offense, and
you you know, have this experience calling plays in college
and these college concepts, Like how how much of an
impact is that to these things?

Speaker 10 (25:45):
Yeah, I don't know if it is. I really look
at it as calling a game and like you're going
to shape it to who you have. You know, I
think we have a good blend of young and vets
right now and we've got to get the most out
of them. You know, I wouldn't say like solely be
because I called games in college. It gives me a
leg up. I think calling games gives you the perspective
of how you utilize your personnel and how you utilize

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putting guys in the right spots. Certainly, like you see
a lot of things from college transfer into the NFL
as of late. You know, like you watch Denver play,
they have a lot of stuff there that that makes
their quarterback comfortable. So I think finding the right blend
of again, maximizing your personnel and who.

Speaker 9 (26:23):
You have is important. I will yeah, why do you
like to do it like that?

Speaker 10 (26:30):
It's a great vantage point to be able to call
the game. It's a great environment to be able to
call a game, and it's where my comfort's been. I've
called games from the field. I prefer to call them
from the booths as times progressed on, but want to
keep the same rhythm that we have.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
It's comfortable out of Little Shotgun at Oregon. Gabriel was
comfortable playing mostly Shotgun Oregon.

Speaker 14 (26:52):
You need you think you need to go to that
to make them more comfortable.

Speaker 10 (26:56):
I think there's a lot of things we can do
to make them comfortable. I think there's great communication between
in the staff on what gets him to that point
yesterday that.

Speaker 15 (27:04):
You will have final say at latitude over most things
that he really wants you if you to put your
stamp on this, but also when it comes to maybe
whether or not to go on it, go for it
on fourth down, he's going to retain some of that.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
How do you feel about.

Speaker 10 (27:17):
How he's the head coach. Every head coach makes the
decisions on game day management. Right, it's your job to
call the play when the situations come up. It's their
job to head coach's job to make sure that they're
putting the team in the best position.

Speaker 14 (27:31):
Obviously, fans are familiar with the Tommy Reeves offense.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
So without getting.

Speaker 9 (27:37):
Anything away with the Ohio State country, what do you
think they're thinking expect. I'm not going to put any
labels on it.

Speaker 10 (27:44):
We want to go out there and play sound football,
put our players in the right spots and have success. Like, look,
we got to score points, We got to stay on
the offense. To sit here and say a bunch of
stuff that it's going to look like, you know, we
want to maximize the guys we have, and that's looked different.
First year I called plays at Notre Dame. Looks different
than when I was at Alabama. It's just you're trying
to maximize the guys you have on the roster.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
All right.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
For the other side of the matchup, we turned to
the Jets and we're back at the podium presented by
Vivid seats Pert, your official fan experience package today for
the Ultimate Game Day. Here is Jets head coach Aaron Glenn.

Speaker 16 (28:16):
When it comes to this game, man, this is a
team that you just take a look at their defense.
They're playing at a very high level, and they have
some some key guys and key positions that that are
playing at a high level for them. Obviously the Dean Garrett,
he's a really good player. The defeat the dB Ward,
damn good player. And this is a sound, sound football

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team that plays very aggressive. So we have to be
on our p's and q's when it comes to how
we operate on offense when it comes to when it
comes to how we operate off when it comes to
their offense, I know exactly what the coach is trying
to do while he's trying to do a good job
of making sure that he brings this quarterback along slowly.

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They're leaning on the game and they're obviously giving him
a chance to get the ball out quick.

Speaker 17 (29:03):
Now we know a lot about this player, Uh, the
quarterback Gabriel.

Speaker 16 (29:06):
I mean, he's been a captain every place he's been
when it comes to college, and he's done a good
job for those guys. And just now I understand exactly
what he's going through trying to get his team offensively
be on the right track. Uh, someone's similar to us
now and I know this coach is gonna work his
ass off to make sure you get it there.

Speaker 17 (29:24):
So we're looking forward to the competition.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
This is a game that.

Speaker 17 (29:30):
That's our total focus that we're on this game.

Speaker 16 (29:33):
And for the most part, the guy's a upbeat, ready
to go, just like they've always been each week, and
we're looking forward to playing this team, so we look
for getting to win.

Speaker 17 (29:42):
So any questions, what uh what was yesterday?

Speaker 4 (29:45):
He liked for you, you have to trade away you
guys that are.

Speaker 17 (29:49):
Yeah, yeah, that was.

Speaker 16 (29:51):
It was a pretty intense day, but for the most part,
just getting calls from a lot of different teams and
when the opportunity to present itself for us to be
able to like build this team, it's hard to pass
it up.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
You know.

Speaker 17 (30:07):
Listen, those two guys are great players. We all know that,
all pro players. But the one constant in this UH,
in this league has changed.

Speaker 16 (30:16):
And I've said that to all our players, not just
today but throughout this UH season that this is a
fluid game, fellas, and there's.

Speaker 17 (30:27):
Some players come and go, coaches come and go.

Speaker 16 (30:31):
But the one thing that I do know with with change,
there comes opportunity, and I think Suston Quinn is gonna
have a great opportunity with those teams. But I also
know there's a lot of opportunity for our guys here
too though, So that's where the focus is for our
guys now. I'm like I say, it was a it
was an inten today, but man, we're looking forward to
playing Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Did you listened it all here to to talk to
the team uh about trading these guys?

Speaker 18 (30:55):
We cause I know Darren spoke to yesterday said the
goals to win, the goals to win.

Speaker 8 (30:59):
But yeah, I don't think there's any doubt that in
the right now today, you guys are better with Quinn and.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Sauce than without.

Speaker 16 (31:07):
To me, I always hit things head on, and obviously
when you have two guys like that that end up
leaving your team, you don't want to make too much
of a deal about it because the players know that
this is a league of change, just like I just
talked about. And that's as far as it went. And listen,
we won a game last week with Sauce not there,
you know, And listen, we know how good a player is,

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We know how good a player Coinning is. But man,
we are moving forward. You know, we have a good
amount of draft capital that we're looking forward to, and
when that time comes, we'll handled that.

Speaker 17 (31:40):
But right now, again we're focused on Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
And speaking of being focused on Cleveland, the job of
stopping the Browns offense will fall to Steve Wilkes's former
defensive coordinator right here. Let's go to the podium now
and listen.

Speaker 19 (31:53):
To him when you look at and I'm gonna go
ahead and address this up front. I'm gonna allow coach
to it to deal with the personnel issues in regards
to the things that happen in regards to the trade,
I will say this, this game is all about change,
and those changes come through injuries. Sometimes it comes through

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trade as you saw the other day. But we got
to do a great job of pressing and moving forward
and get ready to win the next game. I say
I have total confidence, total confidence and the guys that
we have here a z Thomas Brandon Stevens, Malachi, Jarvis,
Brown Lee. I can keep going on and on on

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the guys on the back end as well as the
front because what I've seen, I saw the toughness of physicality,
the competitive nature. We can win with that, and those
are the guys right here that again, and then I'm
excited about the coach and I'm looking forward going into
this next game.

Speaker 14 (32:50):
In regard to the next game, throw the record out
the window.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
All right.

Speaker 14 (32:55):
The Browns are a good football team.

Speaker 19 (32:57):
Our stand and running game with this rookie run back
along with Ford, tremendous receiving corps with the tight ends,
and Judy and Gary was doing a great job just
you know, really orchestrating and running that offense.

Speaker 14 (33:12):
So we've got a tough task ahead of us this week.

Speaker 19 (33:15):
In number one, it starts with stopping to run the
one thing that we struggled with a little bit of
the previous game.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
All right, time for that first matchup. It's presented by
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your Cleveland Browns, please bet responsibly. It is our offense
versus the Jets defense. For more on that, we turn
it over to Doc Diz.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
He yes, all right, Browns are going against a defense
that is bad. The New York Jets. People were acting like,
oh man, they broke up a top five defense.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
No, they did not.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
The Jets have not been good. You know, I know
that they don't have a single interception this year. That's crazy,
not one zero. They are twenty ninth in sacks. They
have eleven sacks, zero picks none zero. They are giving
up twenty seven point six points a game twenty seventh.
Their rush defense one hundred and thirty five point eight
yards per game twenty six. Pass defense is decent eleventh

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in the league. Total yards their twentieth in the league.
On fourth downs their twenty eighth in the league. Their
turnover margin is minus nine that's thirty second in the league.
They are goald to go defense. They've gone up twelve
touchdowns on fourteen trips, twenty seventh in the league.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
No thing, They've been good. They've been a good third
down defense. I give them their crip. Been a good
third down defense.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Running backs again, the Jets this year are averaging one
hundred and thirty total yards and a touchdown per game.
James Cooks hit him for a buck thirty two. Devon
a Chans hit him for one hundred and one total
yards in that one. Javonte Williams has hit him for
a buck thirty five. Rico Dowdell and Chuba Hubbard combined,

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when they're still splitting carries for one hundred and ten
and then last week, Chase Brown and Samaji p Ryan
on twenty one carries went for a bucks sixty seven.
I'm not a mathematician, but that's eight yards of carry.
In fact, in two of their last four games, they've
given up over seven yards of carry. Now, they did
a good job against the Broncos running back somehow, but
they have not done a good job outside of that.

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They've given up more than one hundred yards rushing in
five to running backs alone. In five games this year,
they've given up more than one hundred and forty three times.
This has to be a big Quinn Shawn Jenkins game.
This defense lost their best player up front, which was
Quentnin Williams. They are small at defensive end. Jermaine Johnson
is two hundred and fifty four pounds. Will McDonald is
two hundred and forty five. This is a game where

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the Browns need to run and attack the edges. They
benched former first team All Pro Quincy Williams at linebacker.
It'll be Jamie and Sherwood, who last year led the
league with ninety eight solo tackles. He had one hundred
and fifty eight of them and then Keiko mount Ugo
malui Ugoa. Yeah, there it is Keiko mali Ugoa. His
first name is Francisco. I think you should go by Francisco.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's fun to say Francisco.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
I''m prom with that.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Keiko Mauigua, mali goa, Mali goa.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
That's what we go.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Mal like go uh Maligoa. Rookie out of Miami, fifth
round pick. So those are the linebacks. They're corners and safeties.
Letsen who's gonna be starting for them? Brandon Stevens who's
a former Raven. He's going up one hundred nine rating
in coverage. They just lost Andre Cisco for the year
or not for the year's on IR, so that means
Isaiah Oliver or Tony Adams are going to start. They

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give up one of them gives up ninety percent completions.
The only gives up one hundred and thirty four rating.
Jarvis Brownlee is a fifth round pick from Tennessee in
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
He is there Nickel.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Their other safety is Malachi Moore, their fourth round pick
this year, who's given up a ninety eight rating in coverage,
sixty seven percent completions and the new starter on the
other side, Azaria Thomas, who's given up a one hundred
and eleven rating in coverage.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Good grief, dude, that's the most nameless secondary.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Yeah, the only one you've ever heard of is Brandon Stevens.
And Cisco was a third round pick of the Jags
out of Syracuse. And I know that Ceciliano's said that
he will not be participating. Yeah, this is not that
they are not good.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
This is not good.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Upfront, Will McDonald leads the team with three sacks, only
have eleven total. I mean Juwan Briggs a second on
the team are Juwan Briggs. Yeah, now they're Juwan Briggs
with two sacks. Like, we should dominate this team. Yeah
we should, Yeah, you should.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
You this should be. This a very soft landing spot
for Tommy with play calling and coming off the battle
for Dylan and healthy Q and uh throwing it to
the all of the things that we've struggled with for
the last I mean the whole season. Those things should
open up Sunday.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
So they've given up thirty four to thirty twenty nine,
twenty seven, thirty seven now against Denver inexplicably, they gave
up thirteen. Carolina was thirteen as well, and then they
give up thirty eight to the Bengals last week. The
two games against the AFC North they have given up
they themselves have produced seventy three points. They've given up thirty.
I'm sorry, they've themselves pretty seventy one points. They've given

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up seventy two in those two games in the AFC North.
So high scoring games there. But we absolutely should be
this should be a big offensive performance for the Cleveland Browns.
Quite frankly, it's got to be a big offensive performance
for the Cleveland Browns. It'd be pretty sunning if it's not.
I mean, because there's there's not a lot here.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
There's nothing really here to be too worried about, and
they've pushed in the chips there on to twenty twenty six.
We'll get the other side of the matchup coming up
a little bit later in the program, speaking of that
offense and unlocking what is there? Z one on one
with Dylan Gabriel coming up next. You listen to Cleveland
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Speaker 1 (38:54):
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Speaker 5 (39:07):
Welcome back to Cleve Brown's Daily, brought to you by
Valley Bet, official sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns.
Very happy you joined in studio by the starting quarterback
of your Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Dylan Gabriel and Dylan.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Before we get into anything, let's just talk about is
there a difference between a college bye week and an
NFL bye week?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
More time off?

Speaker 6 (39:24):
You know, in college, they definitely keep you there and
you got some schools, so it was good to have
a true week off and then spend some time with family,
so yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
What you just need.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
Went to some dinner dinner spots, so yep, kind of
learned my way around there and then uh, it's a
good food town and it's very underrated. And got to
go to a Cavs game with ib and Carson. Yeah,
so we enjoyed that and then just chilled. I slept
in and got out of bed when when I wanted
to that.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Had to be nice.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
What's your normal? What's your normal like in the building,
like this week, what's your in the building time?

Speaker 6 (39:59):
Probably forty five to seven, okay, and then we're rolling.
You know, you leave un till five or six.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
So it's good though.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
And I think what's cool too is like a different
schedule from college. NFL is like all day it's football,
So there's so much you can accomplish within a day.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
All right, As you kind of sit here and this
is unfamiliar territory for you, I can't I don't know
last time probably in four games that you only won
one of them. Problem maybe never in your life, I'd
probably say probably not. How have you kind of just
processed the difference in the National Football League and sit
back and say, okay, we got four games in here.
How have you kind of kind of looked back on

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it and what was your own like self scout process.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
Yeah. I think it's interesting. You know, I think going
through this process you are going to appreciate it down
the road. And in the moment, there's a lot that
you want to expedite the process and get to a
level where you feel happy about playing it. And that's
collectively as well, but as a quarterback, you know it's
going to be judge off of wins and losses. That's
part of why you sign up for it and the

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love for the position. But also you know, I know
there's going to be strides I need to take to
get better, you know, And I think from game to
game there's been different challenges and I think I've learned
week to week.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Uh. You know, everyone's got great players. You know, it's
a national Football league.

Speaker 8 (41:13):
And.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, you know, no cupcakes, no non conferences, no.

Speaker 6 (41:18):
But you know, I just think the competitive level of
football that we're playing at all around the league, it's
there's a lot of great players and there's a lot
of good edge rushers. So there's a challenge each week
at all three levels of a defense, and you try
to fine tune and find where you can attack and
be good at that. But I think more than anything,
it's us looking inwards. I think the bye week was

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good for that of trying to get better, uh, and
and do the self scout of where we need to attack,
what's our strengths, what are what's our weaknesses, and try
to you know, mirror the boat to to where you
can help yourself be efficient sustainable offense to to score
points and win games. That's that's how I think, eliminate
distractions and focus on what matters.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
What's something that you have kind of said, all right,
this is one area where I know I have got
to I've seen it and I know I can do it.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
This is what I've got to do going forward.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
I think all together, it's explosives. Yeah, you know, for anyone,
you know, a fifteen play drive compared to six or
eight play drive, it's a.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Lot easier to go see, Yeah, a lot easier.

Speaker 6 (42:19):
And you look at it of you know that creates
momentum rhythm as well for an offense. But then also
you can just go down the field and not have
to be perfect for fifteen plays. You know, there will
be drives where you'll have to go grind it out
like that. But the more explosives you get, the less
likely you'll have, you know, a bunch of play drives.
So we're just working through that and want to create

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those in every which way. The run, the pass, you know,
whether however it may be, and then being great on
third down in the red area. You know, we get
down there a bunch and have but want to score
points and then on third down sustaining drives. You know,
when there's a third down, you got to have it,
you got to go get it. And I think we're

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learning that through opportunities that you got to go make happen.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
In the NFL, I would imagine the windows are different, right,
and and I know that there's no question after a
kind of the way the season started for us, you
were tasked with, let's take make sure we take care
of the football. How are you kind of now that
you've had four games kind of being able to balance
that fine line of Okay, it's third down, I got
to put it past the six versus, but I also
can't put the ball in harm's way, like, because I
feel like that's ultimately that finding that balance, especially on

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vertical throws as well, is that's what the league is.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
Yeah, it's it's a fine line, you know, And I'm
finding that balance not only every day but each week.
And you want to find a balance of not pressing
and not you know, you can't force it, yeah, and
then not going broke taking a profit, you know. So
that's that's something you do, whether it's coverage that's matched,
you know, winning on that or zone coverage when you

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got a high low a certain defender or a defender
in conflict and playing off that. But sometimes you can
leverage a defender one way or the other. So just
trying to be aware of that, ultra aware and then
creating it and making it happen.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
Obviously, the big news this week is that there's gonna
be a new play caller. How did you find out
and were you surprised?

Speaker 6 (44:11):
Yeah, I got call early and you know, appreciate that,
and that's just open communication. And I don't think surprise
the words. It's understanding what coach you know, Stefanski wants
and for this team, you know, he sees all about
the team and wants to win and taking the right
steps to do that. I think for coach Tommy, it's
it's someone that's been a consistent voice in not only

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the locker room but just on the offensive side of
the ball. And I think it'll be good. You know,
I think it'll be good just because who coach Tommy is.
I've been a fan of him even in college, but
even getting to work with them, it's like, I think,
day to day nothing has really changed. It'll just be
the flow of on game day, so we look forward
to it. We're all coming together to create improvement and

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that's all we're focused on.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
Have you noticed maybe any difference in kind of the
style because you have so many seconds right that they're
allowed to talk to you on maybe Kevin thinks it's
important to say these things, Tommy, maybe things that's important
to say things? Is how's that kind of gone to
practice with a new voice in your head and maybe
the way that they approached their allotted time.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
That's a great question because there is an adjustment in
terms of just verbalizing it and hearing a different voice
and how they pronounce certain things. Yeah, I don't think
you think of that until what's happening. You know, it's
a speaker in your voice or in your ear. So
it's good though, and it's something through practice we're all
getting through and he's done it through walk throughs as well. Yep,
so a voice I'm familiar with, but now it'll just

(45:34):
be more consistent.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I'm not asking for you to say what they are.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
But have you noticed anything maybe that feels a little
bit different with Tommy and maybe the way that either
he wants to sequence or some of the things that
he likes corners, the playbooks that he likes.

Speaker 6 (45:48):
I think it'll always be, you know, a group effort
with all the coaches and separating the game plan to
certain areas where coaches take you know, pride in and
kind of focus on.

Speaker 17 (45:58):
I don't think that will ever change.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
But I think, you know, within a flow of a game,
I think certain guys just have great feel and coach
Tommy's done it, so just trusting that and being around
I'm excited to that be our first game, going in
together and working through that, but also just know that,
you know, we've always been working on this together and
as a squad to make it go happen.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Bright Lights, Big City head into New Jersey. Even though
they are the New York Jets.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
We'll be playing this game in New Jersey, but in
the you know, off in the distance, you'll be able
to see the skyline of New York City Jets.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
I don't know if you ever had this.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
I managed in college, and I think guys transfer in
the middle of a week, but you had the Jets say,
here's our best defensive lineman, a all first team All Pro,
here's our best cornerback, Dylan, don't worry about those guys,
they're not going to be here anymore. What was that
kind of news like for you on the trade deadline
where there were really only a couple of big moves
and they were all off of the defense that you're
going to be facing.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
Yeah, we got out of a meeting and found out
about it. So I always say it, but I'm never
surprised in the league anymore. You know, crazy things happen,
and you're only eight games in, only eight games in,
and uh, you know, I think college at some point
get to something like that. So, uh, just control what
you can and I think for anything, it's still a
nice surprise, Yeah, for sure, and there's still a bunch

(47:16):
of great players. So you just adjust and you know,
work through the depth chart. But then also know that
you know, there's a lot of things that we're working
on that is you know, focus and centered on us
and how we can be better, you know, through certain
things as well.

Speaker 5 (47:29):
All Right, this is a defense that kind of kind
of plays it down the middle almost even split on
middle of the field open, middle of the field closed.
They don't do a lot of disguising kind of even
on cover one, cover two, cover three. When you've kind
of gone through your preparations for them. What's kind of
stood out to you about the way that they try
to attack opposing offenses.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
I think it's trust in personnel, also confidence in uh,
you know, coverages that they've ran a bunch throughout you know,
whether it's training camp or OTAs. I think that's where
that kind of style of play comes from. Yeah, and
that's trust and belief in and who they got. So
I think that's you know, usually goes on either end
of the stick on that one, but yeah, I think

(48:08):
they're they're a great team and they they'll obviously create
challenges in multiple ways.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
When you look at a team that and they're I
think they're top five in the league in terms of
their cover two percentage. When you see a team that
does play some of that shell, how does that you know,
kind of change maybe your mentality And did you.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
See as much of this in college? I feel like
it's seems like a trend. Like Minnesota.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
We played Minnesota, they come into it, they're like a
huge shell team. Now they change it up a little
bit with us, but that's still a big shell team.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
I think there's themes within a year throughout every league
you know, and and what's working, and if a team
had success with it, you know, the other teams will
try it and then you may get that theme throughout.
But for the most part, I think there's different ways
of switching it up. You know. I think it's maybe
the drastic shell to a single high look and maybe
not expecting it or trying to get you know, maybe

(48:56):
a offense used to one coverage and then they got
a change up, Uh, may get you off for a play.
So I think that's kind of more so maybe the
reasoning behind that.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
How important is he getting to get said tilman back,
which is great to this offense? How important is it
for you to say and even get with the coaches
and be like, let's get these receivers going early, because
I gotta imagine it's like basketball, right, you want to
get your scores of the ball, let them see the ball.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Go through the net, get into the rhythm of the game.
So how important is that and is that something that
we should expect to see maybe coming out here in
New York.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
It's huge, you know, you want to get everyone going
and especially your your best players. And I think everyone's
aware of that, and I think it's It's a mixture, right.
You want to establish the run, you want to be
really good in the past game. You also want to create,
you know, touches for your guys to have some run
after catch and go do their things. So it's fine

(49:47):
to balance to that, but definitely want to emphasize, you know,
getting our best players of the ball.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
How hard is it to kind of balance that with
You got to take what the defense gives you, for sure.
That's that's the league.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Right.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
There are times where as you said, when we can
leverage something, that's when we can take the shots. But
for the most part, it's all right, we're gonna run
this play, We're expecting this.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Look, we got this. Look. This guy, whether he goes
here or here, is going to determine where the ball goes.

Speaker 6 (50:09):
I think the best offenses are most sufficient when the
ball is being sped around and you look at you know,
guys that have maybe not equal but very balanced offense.
And then I think you can also tell when certain
guys are doing well each day. Yeah, and maybe that
day it's a tight end running back day, and maybe
it's a receiver day on another so I think that

(50:33):
can be a good sign intel of when offense is clicking.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
On all cylinders.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
How excited to get out there and just get this
thing going because I know, you know that we can
get this offense going.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
Yeah, I'm ultra competitive, you know. I wanted to look
a certain way and you're used to a certain style
and want to play at that pace, but also that
aggressiveness and have it look a certain way, you know,
and then ultimately go win games. So it's a consistent
effort of calm, persistence, of just working at something and

(51:03):
trusting it. But this is all times that really build
you know, tough people and people that can work through
these kind of things, and it makes it that much
more rewarding. So that's how I attack it. I know,
it's one day at a time, one meeting, Yeah, you know,
one practice, and I think that's all you can can
really control, and that's where we come together and go
do that thing. But we'll make it happen.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, let's go, Dylan, thanks so much for the time.
Good luck on Sunday. Thank you all right, good stuff
with Ze and Dylan. There some breaking news, multiple reports
Ken Rosenthal among m Jeff Passon. I believe Adam Schefter
as well. Now Paul D. Podesta has been the chief
strategy officer here with the Cleveland Browns for the better
part of the last decade, and according to their reporting,

(51:46):
among others, he is moving on to become the Colorado
Rockies head of baseball operations again. Paul D. Podesta, who
has been here with the Browns the last ten seasons,
was hired in January of twenty sixteen. He is moving on,
reportedly to the Colorado Rockies to head baseball operations. We
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news here in the sports world. It affects us directly.
Chief strategy officer Paul de Podesta, according to Jeff Passon,
according to Ken Rosenthal, Adam Schefter, others reporting that he

(53:18):
has taken a job to run the baseball operations with
the Colorado Rockies. Nothing yet official from Colorado or from
us here with the Browns, but those reports are out there.
They're being confirmed by the biggest newsmakers in the business.
Paul was hired in January of twenty sixteen as chief
strategy officer and it is a ten year run that,
according to multiple reports, is coming to an end today.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
My friend, Yeah, that would obviously be a big, big one,
as he has been the chief strategy officer here, as
you mentioned for a decade with Paul d. Pedessa, I
think it's you know, his first love for those of
you who watch Moneyballs, first level was always baseball. Yeah,
and so you know, I would say, if this is
what he's doing, good for him, going back to what
he you know, truly loves and is passionate about. I've

(54:02):
always enjoyed my time with PAULI does a very smart guy.
Hasn't always necessarily what we've done worked out the way
that maybe we wanted to. But yeah, and an excellent,
excellent guy. And certainly, if if this is true, which
at this point with the names that are reporting it is,
obviously it feels pretty true. Yeah, certainly wish him, wish

(54:22):
him the best, wish him the best. And I don't
think it, I don't think I wouldn't read into it
that this means there's a whole big shift coming here
at this point.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Certainly not in this alone is though, but it is
some ten years as chief strategy officer. I mean, that's
a big shift on its own.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
You know, to have this news happened, no doubt, no doubt,
and you know things have unfortunately other than you know,
a playoff win in twenty twenty and a playoff appearance
in twenty twenty three with Joe Flacco, which certainly was
not part of the plan. That No, no, you know,
we have not had the success that we've wanted, and
we're you know, not a tough spot, but we're not

(55:00):
in the best spot right now.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
So you could see a change probably ultimately might be
best for everybody involved. It was this was probably what
would you say, it was maybe three years ago. He
came in here. He used to it once a year.
He would come in here with us once a year.
Let me tell you something, and that's what I'm to say,
Like when he came in and it was two or
three times that he's been in studio the best. He's

(55:25):
so good at explaining the reasons for why things happen
and what you're trying to do. And I remember saying
this to him that day when he left. I said,
I wish I would have heard more from you through
the years because I think that it explains stuff.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
But he's yeah, great at explaining.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
He's a great guy, like really nice, great guy, great family,
super nice guy, super smart, And when you talk to him,
you feel confident in the plan because he is so
smart about it. Everything he says makes sense. It's not
like he's speaking in.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
These you know, flut and wins where you're like, I
don't even know what he's saying.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
No, he is matter.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
It all makes sense now.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
It is also true that you know, doubling down against
the six when you've got eleven and a casino is
the right play. And guess what, it's not a guaranteed win. No,
And unfortunately for the Browns, we've been on the wrong
side of things that when you actually get to hear,
as you say, when you get a chance to talk
with Paul and I, Paul was always.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
An open door for me.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
I was able to go in and really understand our
thought processes on a lot of things. And I appreciate
that immensely, Like I really like Paul Deepedesta a lot. Unfortunately,
things just haven't necessarily worked out the way that the
good strategy that led to some of the positions were
in we had hoped, you know what I And the
biggest one, obviously is what Jimmy has I'm talking about

(56:45):
the trade for John wat Do you understand why it happened?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
It has not.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Yielded the fruit that you wanted at that time, And
but you know, there were always one thing. It doesn't
bring any comfort, but there were always sound reasons for
the way that the Browns have operated. Like if you
said with them and you'd listen to Paul the Podesta
and talk about you'd be like, okay, yep, that makes sense.

Speaker 14 (57:04):
I get him.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
It just hasn't worked out, unfortunately. And I think the
part of that is there are things in the National
Football League that are intangibles that are maybe not quantifiable
in any way, and you talk about you know, human analytics,
but just whatever that is. There are a lot of
things there. But I certainly wish him well. I think
you will be very good in baseball, which has now

(57:28):
become even more so when he was really at the
forefront of it. Yeah, you know, analytically driven. I mean,
think about if you watched a baseball game from our childhood,
so let's call it in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Yeah, ladies, through the early nineties, mid nineties. Yeah, all
the way through.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
You knew what a left field or a center field
and a right fielder were because they played in left field,
center field, and right field.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
You know, that's right shortstop in the second base and
we're in the first Like they all just played their position,
played the positions.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
But then you know, as they got into the analytics
of where guys hit, it no you got three guys over,
you have all these shifts and all this everybody's different
for every it's it's not like that anymore. And he
was kind of at the forefront of that. And Moneyball
obviously a great book, uh, an excellent movie that was made.
And I was somebody who grew up out there, you know,
I knew about the A's and what they were doing. Yeah,
it's unfortunate that it didn't work out. I think, you know,

(58:18):
sometimes the best laid plans do not and I think
that they there were sound reasonings, and I think we
did a lot of things that were really really smart
in terms of how we were able to use the
cap to our advantage with cash and all those things
that we kind of were at the forefront of in
the league. It's just unfortunately, this is a an industry
where you've got to have that quarterback really to be

(58:39):
long term successful, and I think that is the truest
thing in the league, and we have not been able,
unfortunately to find that. And you know, that's kind of
where the why the Browns are where the Browns are
right now, and that quest is ongoing right now.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah, and just for him, you know, in his personal
life southern California. It's where he calls home. And now
that's that's nothing with Denver. That's an easy the easy commute.
And so back to baseball, closer home West Coast ish
at least adjacent. So there's there's that side of it
as well. Just from a timeline standpoint, in terms of

(59:12):
my hunches, Colorado would be the one to officially acknowledge first,
would that be how that would go? That it would
be the Rockies that would do that, and then there
would be something officially from us. And again these are
I mean, this is its passion schefter Rosenthal, like, these
are all the people that would have this type of thing.
So it was broken on the baseball side of it,

(59:35):
and then others responded after that, but it was it
was passing Rosenthal that were kind of at the forefront
of it. But then the so you so in terms
of a time and then the next thing I think
would be curious is will that position be filled? Will
we fill with a chief strategy officer? Again, like what
is that? Because it was a triumvant. It was it
was him and ab and Kevin and we've talked about this,

(59:55):
the power structure and kind of how that all works
and they're all equal viewed and that's the way that
it kind of goes. And and they were very they
worked very well together collaboratively, they got along very well. Like,
is that a position that is filled here in the organization?
I think that's an next logical thing to kind of ask, Yeah,
what is it going to look like?

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
And and you know, I think once this thing is
confirmed by the Rockies and once the Browns make a
statement about it, you know, I think that'll be a
very real question. Okay, so what did it look like before?
What does it look like going forward? Is that a
role that you would like to you know, fill in
going forward or is that a role that will no

(01:00:34):
longer exist?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Will that be something you know we've got with HSG, Like,
is that something that becomes now?

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Yeah, I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
And that'll be it'll be interesting to see. But yeah,
I certainly wish deep O well, I wish it had
worked out better for him because I do think he's
a very smart guy. I think that he wanted this
team to be great. I mean I know he did
him Yeah, and he's smart, charming, gregarious, super intelligent, talented

(01:01:06):
all of those things, and I think the NFL is
just a little bit of a different challenge. And the
reality this doesn't matter how good you are at anything.
If you don't have a quarterback the NFL, it's not
going to your it's not going to be a success.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Your black check analogy is the perfect one you can
play all the odds in the world with. Sometimes the
house wins. Yeah, and by the way, win a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Those are pretty nice looking casinos that were not built
on paying out money.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
No, no, they're not. So that is your breaking news
here as we across the second hour here of the program.
Chief strategy officer Paul de Podesta been in this position
since January of twenty sixteen, reportedly moving to Colorado to
head up the baseball operations of the Rockies. Still nothing
official yet from either the Rockies or the Browns. Will

(01:01:50):
continue to monitor that. But these are I mean, these
are people that you pay attention to on this stuff,
with Rosenthal and pass It and Schefter. So they've got
it and that is what is being reported. So for
now we will take that as fact as we move along.
Coming up next, we get back onto the football field.
Take a look at the matchup from the other side,
our defense versus a Jets offense that reportedly will have

(01:02:11):
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Again if you're just joining us. The breaking news of
the day reportedly Paul de Podesta, chiefs strategy officer of

(01:03:11):
Your Cleveland Browns since January of twenty sixteen, is moving
on to the Colorado Rockies to head up the baseball operations.
There nothing official from Colorado, nothing official from our side
of things either, but it is being reported by folks
who don't miss on this type of stuff. So that
is your breaking news of the day. We discussed it
in the previous segment. Time to get now back on
the football field and the matchups. We'll do our defense

(01:03:35):
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Speaker 12 (01:03:44):
Off the game he had right the five sacks, delayed frustration.
He showed just what did you take away from his
performance and then his reaction to be.

Speaker 9 (01:03:53):
Taken out at the end of I think, yeah, I
like the competitiveness with it.

Speaker 18 (01:03:58):
You know, you want guys and the thing is for him,
like there's there's sometimes you get taken out of a
game because it's like a blowout win and you're protecting
your guys at the end of the game.

Speaker 9 (01:04:11):
And we had that at the end of the Miami game.

Speaker 18 (01:04:14):
You know, and and guys guys want you know, sacks
and interceptions and things like that, and they're fairly well
they're easier to get at that time at a game
than other times, but this was the point that we
were down, and I appreciated the competitiveness of him wanting
to figure that out. Also one hundred percent see where

(01:04:35):
Kevin was with it of you know, the game's over,
let's let's protect our players. Outstanding performance, you know, I
think I think the thing and I told him this,
The thing I was probably most proud of his play
was was not the five sacks. It was the way
he played the run in that game. And he did

(01:04:58):
a really good job there setting edges and you know,
and and chase him from the backside and things like that. Obviously,
in a losing effort, there's really no silver linings, but
it was a good individual performance.

Speaker 20 (01:05:14):
We know how important Miles is to your defense on
the field, but when you're going through these and you're
trying to clean things up, how important is he off
the field in the efforts that you're trying to make
across the team.

Speaker 9 (01:05:25):
Yeah, you mean just.

Speaker 14 (01:05:28):
The him being vocal and open in that way.

Speaker 18 (01:05:31):
Yeah, I mean, you want all your guys to be
honest and to be yeah, to be honest with their
feelings and and things like that, but you also you
also want to frame it the right way. And I
think Miles has been good that way. I mean, you know,
I think that you guys that deal with them on

(01:05:52):
a daily basis, I mean, you know, having frustration at
the end of the game is not something that normally
shows with him. So he's done a good job of
being consistent and working. I don't know if you guys noticed,
but like the week before that game, he took every
single practice rep, every single and he had told Jacques,

(01:06:16):
I don't He had told Jaquah, hey, I wasn't happy
with my performance the week before. You're not taking me
out of practice in this during this week, And I
think that goes you know, like that kind of statement
speaks speaks loud too, And he ended up with, you know,
a good performance in the game. So you know, you know,

(01:06:38):
I don't want to, you know whatever, call that out
too much, you guys. You guys aren't out there and
see the reps, but usually d Lineman because particularly the
way we go, we'd like split reps in practice. But
I think that sends a strong message. And you know,
it's a difficult thing to do during the week to
take every single rep, but I appreciated him doing that.

(01:07:02):
I think it showed on that Sunday again, no silver
linings and a loss. But you know, we'll put it
behind us and move on to the jets.

Speaker 15 (01:07:11):
If a person's going to be able to play or not.

Speaker 7 (01:07:13):
But with how well he's been doing, just in terms
of calling your defense back there and managing the whole thing,
what will that be like for you guys if he
can't go.

Speaker 18 (01:07:24):
Well, we have some experienced players there. My mood got
a lot of his starting experience last year. Devin Bush
has played in there, you know, Bake has played in there.
You know, so we have a lot of different ways
that we can go with it. And you know, we'll
practice that way and just see where it see where
it lands. But yeah, Carson means a lot to us.

(01:07:47):
He's not just from his play on the well, his
not just his play, but also his communication and you know,
things like that. And I think he's also stepping into
some leadership things. We We've said a lot of times
it's just a matter of time before the ball found him,
and it did on that play. And you know, I think,

(01:08:07):
you know, we get him back on the field, whether
it's this week, next week, the week after, whatever it is.
I think you'll continue to see a lot of those
same positives from him.

Speaker 12 (01:08:17):
In that Patriots game, looked like they had some success
in the second half running to the outside.

Speaker 9 (01:08:22):
What did you see and how can you clean that up?

Speaker 18 (01:08:25):
Yeah, I mean, some of it was a couple of misstackles,
and we've generally been a really good tackling team this year,
So some of it was that, and then some of
it was the quarterback scrambles, you know, I mean that game.
I mean, when you look at the rushing stats, it's
been so long I can't remember, but they're obviously bullied
by you know, those scrambles, which were big games. It

(01:08:47):
all counts the same, you know, whether they're running or passing.
But for the most part, I've been pleased with our
perimeter defense this year. We put a big emphasis into it,
and particularly our defensive tackles have done a really a
good job of flattening it out and making plays on
things like jet sweeps and cracked tosses and things like that.
This game, I thought we did take it a little

(01:09:08):
bit of a step back, and we got to bounce
back that.

Speaker 11 (01:09:10):
Way all really well, And how much does the presence
of a running quarterback enhance that running game.

Speaker 9 (01:09:17):
Yeah, for sure. It just makes you defend one extra guy.

Speaker 18 (01:09:21):
It's like having an extra blocker out there because you
know you have to have availability to handle the quarterback.
So a lot of different ways to do it, but
you know, it certainly adds a different different dimension. You know,
Fields has tremendous speed. He's a four to three type quarterback.
He's got great size. They have called quarterback runs like

(01:09:45):
quarterback sweeps, particularly in short yardage. They have quarterback draws,
and then they have options, whether it's a zone read
or an RPO and things like that. It just really
makes you play a sound It's like playing the triple
option in college.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Right.

Speaker 18 (01:10:00):
You have to make sure you cover to dive the
quarterback and the pitch. And this makes makes makes you
really play assignment football and puts an emphasis on that.

Speaker 9 (01:10:09):
You know, we've obviously seen it before.

Speaker 18 (01:10:11):
Lamar with Baltimore runs a lot of stuff like that,
and we've seen other teams that do it. So we
have a good plan to be able to handle it.
But sometimes plan is a little bit easier in theory
than an execution. You know, it's one thing to say, yeah,
you have the quarterback on this. But another thing when
you have a guy that's the athlete that Justin Fields
is and the speed that he has, so you know

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it's going to take it's going to take our a
good team effort to defend that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
All right, there you go, Coach Schwartz at the podium.
Now for the behind enemy Lions view the man they're
in charge of stopping. You heard him talking about him
right there, Jet's quarterback Justin Fields.

Speaker 9 (01:10:49):
What was your reaction to the trades yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
I was surprised, like all the other trades are in
the league.

Speaker 8 (01:10:55):
But you know, it's one thing that you know that
kind of sucks in this league when you you know,
Bill bonds in locker rooms with guys and then you
know next day they leave. But like I said, it's
it's the thing that happens every year. So you know
you're surprised, but not at the same time.

Speaker 13 (01:11:10):
From the organizational view, I think they got a lot
of draft picks for the future. That doesn't really help
you guys Sunday against Cleveland, they're going forward. So how
as a player where you have nine games left, you
process is that two of your better players are gone from.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
The team you control. You can control and play ball.

Speaker 17 (01:11:26):
So AG told us that he briefly addressed the trades
with the team.

Speaker 8 (01:11:31):
What was your take away from play Yeah, he just
told the team that you know, changes constant. You know,
that's that's one thing, and it's league that that that
doesn't change it, and that's that is changed. So you know,
you just have to adjust to it. And the team
that does it the best will keep going and you know,
keep keep des sending. So yeah, but like I said,
you you you can't be surprised by change. That's that's

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just what comes, you know, in this business, in this game,
and like I said, you just got to keep playing ball.

Speaker 9 (01:11:57):
You were in the division with Cleveland last year. What
what kind of challenge is this defense present?

Speaker 8 (01:12:02):
Yeah, I think they have, you know, one of the
top defense in the league. Of course, you know, they
have ninety five on the other side of the ball,
great great player, so first and foremost taking care of him,
a great second level defenders too, and you know dv's
as well, So they trust their dbs a lot. They
play a lot of man coverage and you know, so
it's gonna be about really just executing on our side
of the ball and like I said, taking care of

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ninety five and you know, making sure that he doesn't
right the game you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Mentioned Miles Justin, when can you look at his stats
and it looks like a video game.

Speaker 17 (01:12:29):
It doesn't look like real when he does sack wise
every single year.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
What, in your opinion makes him special? His athleticism and
his strength.

Speaker 8 (01:12:37):
I think, you know, really just got given abilities and
just working with those those two things right there, He's
he's been able to work up a skill set to
where he can, you know, do different things on the field.
But I think just his guy given abilities, just with
his speed and strength and really his athleticism. So I
think that's why he's he's been so good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Yeah, and Justin would be specifically equipped to answer that
question that his first start was a bit of a
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Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
All Right, Jets have some stars for sure on offense.
Garrett Wilson, who says he is good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
He will be back.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
He would be amongst them, and he's got one thousand
yards every season. Was the offensive rookie of the Year
in the league in twenty twenty two. He says he
is back after missing the last two games. He's their
leading receiver thirty six catches, three or ninety five yards
and four touchdowns. Doesn't have about one hundred yard game
yet this year. They've also got Brese Hall there running
back five yards of carry. He's got five hundred and
eighty one yards rushing, two touchdowns, both of those came

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last week. On a season high one hundred and thirty
three yards rushing. He's got twenty one catches for one
hundred and seventy eight yards. He also threw a touchdown
last week, the first of his career. They also have
a very good second running back, Isaiah Davis, fifth round
out of South Dakota State. He's averaging six point four
yards a carry. Last week, he had one hundred and
nine total yards on twelve touches in that game against

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the Bengals. Got a good young tight end Mason Taylor,
son of Jason Taylor, second on their team, twenty nine catches,
tw hundred and forty two yards and a touchdown. Field
should be the quarterback here, folks. Sixty four percent completions,
not many yards passing per game, but five touchdowns, zero interceptions.
Only qualified quarterback in the NFL this year who has
not thrown an interception rating of ninety two points six.
He's also run for two hundred and eighty eight yards

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and three touchdowns. That's second most among all quarterbacks. In
terms of rushing yards, bo, do you have a guest
who has the most rushing yards as a quarterback this year?

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Most stretching yards by a quarterback this year? Yep, it
always helps. I'm not looking at stats. I just want
to pull up standings and then I can then I
can identify quarterback. Yeah, I'm gonna go is it Jackson Dart?
Not Jackson Dart.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
That's a good guess, though, I don't think he's I
think because of Russ early on.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Oh that's right, he started the first couple of games. Yeah,
Drake May, No, it is not Drake May Gibbe g Man,
do you guys have guesses most rushing yards for quarter
most rushing.

Speaker 5 (01:15:15):
Yards for a quarterback this year in the NFL. By
the way, Jackson Dark game are on the season. On
the season season, Dart's got two fifty one in six starts.
Justin Fields and seven starts has two eighty eight. So
Dart's been quite quite productive. He's been getting after yeah,
five rushing touchdowns as well for Jason Dart. No idea, Okay,
is g Man in there?

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Young Gabriel? You have a guess? Is he Drake May? No,
he is a girl favorite Herbert Justin Herbert. I oh,
he's been taking off the last few weeks. Couldn't even
believe it when I saw Justin Herbert is the answer?

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
Yeah, I got that from the NFL. The NFL stats,
Justin Herbert. Drake May, by the way, has two hundred
and seventy Herbo is three oh five. I believe is
the is the number there? Justin Herbert leading the league
in I think it was leading league in attempts and yards,
or at least he had been for a while. He's

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got twenty four hundred yards passing already, and he's got
three hundred and five yards rushing. Meanwhile, he had three
hundred and six yards rushing in all of twenty twenty four,
and in fact, that was his career high. So within
two yards he will set his new career high through
ten games.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Yeah, justin Herbert.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
Anyway, offensive line's given up a lot of pressures this year.
All of them have given up at least sixteen pressures.
The guards have given up eight sacks Between the two
of them, Joe Tipman their second rounder from twenty three,
John Simpson fourth running from Vegas and twenty they've given
up eight sacks and thirty five pressures. The tackles, both
of them first rounders. Their first rounder, Fashanu Oulu Fashunu,

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Fashunu from Penn State.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Did you probably know that guy?

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
Did I say that right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Forshunu and then Fashionu. I believe so. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
Fashion U and Membu, who was their first round pick
out of Missouri. This year, they've given up six sacks
and forty two pressures. They'll play a lot of twelve personnel.
Jeremy Ruckert, former Buckeye, not much of a receiver. He's
got nine catches for ninety six yards and a touchdown
this on the entirety of the season. They're not a
great offense. They're twenty ninth. They've given they've been sacked
thirty one times. That's twenty ninth.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
They are the third rushing offense, no surprise, with Justin
Fields buttressing those numbers. They are the dead last passing offense,
twenty fifth in total yards per game, twenty fourth in
points per game. They've fumbled ten times, losing seven that's
fourth most in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
They're not particularly good on third down twenty seventh in
the league, and they're not particularly good in goal to
go they're twenty sixth in the league. There, so not
a This is not a great offense. Our defense. I
think we should have a field day getting home getting pressure.
Justin Fields was not hit in the game by the Bengals.
They didn't have one quarterback hit. They are useless up front.

(01:17:54):
They really are without and think about Murphy Sjamar sturtose
first picks.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
I know, yeah, they really struggle at everything other than drafting.

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
Receiver Duke Tobin. It's amazing that there isn't he's drafted.
I mean, how many guys on their defense were first
or second or third round picks over the last five
years and there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Dude, before that, it was offensive line. How many offensive
linemen did they drifted Billy price at Ohio State at
Center in the first round. Let me tear his peck
at the COMBA when we were there. Yeah, I think
he did on the bench. I believe you have that right. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
So this is not a good offense. This is folks
should be comfortable. This is the game we should win. Yep,
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Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
Yeah, and now you're getting into the nitty gritty and
one of the things you're gonna have to pay attention to.
You got bye weeks and then you've got injuries. Now
there are injuries all over the National Football League, so
you're gonna have to check in for the latest on that.
But for example, if James Cook is unable to go,
Ray Davis as somebody you're gonna want, Woody Marx could
get a much bigger role this week in the event

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that Nick Chubb cannot play for the Houston Texan.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
He's dealing with a foot injury. So those are just
some of the things that you need to pay attention.

Speaker 5 (01:21:04):
You got a lot of fantasy viable guys Kansas City
and Cincinnati on buys, so there's a lot to look
at here.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
This week.

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
We'll start the quarterbacks for you, as we always do.
Matt Stafford. I think at this point it's hard not
to play him. I mean, the guy is all he's
starting like eighty touchdowns a game. He's been fana him
into the MVP. Yeah, yes, the cool injury. He keeps
this up and they keep winning, he might work his
way into it. Yeah, I think Jackson Dart is a
must start at this point. Bo Nicks is a must

(01:21:31):
start at this point. Caleb Williams, I would keep going
with Sam Darnold, Donald Daniel Jones.

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
Those guys are our people that I would have no
problem getting in your lineups this week at the running
back position. As I said, you got to pay attention
to a lot of the injury news. If Cook can't go,
that makes Davis a viable guy. I f Rico Dowdell
is out, Chuba Hubbard becomes a good start. Saquon Barkley
is out. Now you're looking to probably Tank Bigsby there
in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Manung guy, your guy, my guy. It feels like he's
the guy, right, He's got kid he is. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
So DeAndre Swift is back, but you have to imagine
he has earned some type of a role in that offense.
And one surprise me No RJ. Harvey and I he's
scored in four straight games.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
What he marks?

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
Like I mentioned, if there is no Nick Chubb in
that game for the Houston Texas, remember they don't have CJ.
Stroud either, It's Davis Mills wide receivers. If Parrett Wilson
is back against us, gonna get shut down, but you
can go ahead and get him back in your lineups.
Chris Olave, Romeo Dubbs Franklin, who I've had kind of
had an up and down year, but no Marvin Mims there,

(01:22:38):
so he's got an opportunity. H Parker Washington in a
PPR league if Brian Thomas, who's banged up, if he
doesn't play, you know they already are gonna be without
Travis Hunter and a PPR league. I think Parker Washington
is a definite is a good play for you guys
right there. Somebody that I would look at getting in
your lineups as well. Trey Tucker.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Again, you're going down. You're looking for like Waiver wire stuff.
But trades have to pay attention to injuries now though,
kids because there's a lot of them, and Tooby Myers
got traded, so that means somebody's got to step up
and catch the football.

Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
Other than Rock Bowers, you would think somebody has to.
He would probably be the leading candidate there. Tight ends
at this point. You know Gadson is must start. I
think he's played that way. You got to keep him
in your lineups now, we know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Harold Fannin's been listed with an hamstring injury, so that
is concerning with Harold fan there. If he is unable
to go, that would give David Joku certainly a lot
more looks in the offense for the Cleveland Browns there
and then defenses this week is always like to play
the matchups, which we got to do Denver against Vegas, Tonight,
Browns against the Jets.

Speaker 5 (01:23:40):
Love that one. Bills against Miami, I think is always
a good That's a good start there. As I look
through Chargers against the Pittsburgh Steelers offense, which doesn't produce
a ton is a good one as well. Some of
those are some of the defenses to look at this
week for fantasy football.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
All right, good jevit to you, doctor Ze. Time to
open up that mail bag, Hello, Gibbe, Oh lah hey, buddy, score,
were going to get to here.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
A lot going on here, you know what, Let's do
that because I always try to rush that at the end. Yeah,
there's thirty five mile an hour wins in Denver. Oh jeez, okay,
that's what's going on. That's that's a very real thing
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Yep uh.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
The score was minus nine and a half for Denver.
FYI the Denver Bronco doesn't look like it is anymore,
though I'm looking at it right right now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
It is because on the sheet it's it's less than
it's I see nine and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
It's nine and a half now, okay, all right. The
Denver Broncos are seven and two and they are playing
host to the Las Vegas Raiders. It's a short week.
It's Thursday, kids, it is a Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
It's a Thursday, Thursday. Pay attention, it's a Thursday. You know,
the Broncos they're very good, very good. They are a
darn good football team. And yeah saying they're the best.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
And yet.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
In their last five games they've won by four two, one,
twenty and three.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
They're in the throwbacks tonight, which are beautiful. And that's
why on a Thursday, I think Ashton, gent and Vegas.
They keep it close. Broncos powers close. Denver gets it
done barely on a Thursday, just barely on a Thursday.
Broncos thirty, Raiders twenty six on Thursday. On a Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
On Thursday, Denver elevated tight end Mercedes Lewis, forty one
year old tight end will play to night.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
That might be the only storyline worth watching.

Speaker 14 (01:25:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
I need to stay up played for that one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Like him still playing tight End at forty one, it's
on the It's in the vicinity of Lebron still playing
if he ever comes back from this aiatica. That is
age like it just crazy crazy, different levels obviously, but
just the ability to still be upright and be functional
at that age at tight End in the NFL was nuts.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Uh. Now it's time for Little mail Bag. Let's do it.
Given cl fan in Chicago, what is your one guilty
pleasure movie? Borderline of afraid to admit on live radio,
I'm not afraid to admit it. It's Christmas Bounty. We're
getting into the holiday season starring the Miz. Was there
for the Red Carpet premiere, which occurred in my basement,

(01:26:37):
and it's fun. You get to hear him do a
new Jersey accent, which is also fun his first foray
into acting. It's a great movie. I recommend it. Have
your kids seen it?

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
I don't believe so No, come on, dude, where's it
that I don't know? I just search for it. I
own I have not seen it, my wife did. I
got out of the shower this morning and I heard
Mariyah carry yeah, and I just went, nope, yes, too soon.
I can't do it. Can't do it, can't do it, honey,

(01:27:07):
it's too much. Oh it can be done. I can't
do it yet. I'm all for trees and the rest
of it, but I can't be hearing that already. Oh baby,
it's too short of a season as it is. I mean,
it goes Thanks Thanksgiving, so backed up this year it is. Yeah,
I'm all fine with all of it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
I walked into the studio this morning to start my
day and the G Man was playing YouTube videos of
him playing in a jazz band at Wadsworth High School
Christmas music playing sacks of course, Christmas Bounty uh fandaego
at home is the lining? Oh there you go, there
you go? What are they charging fifteen?

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Who was who was better on the sacks? The g
Man at Wadsworth or Rob Low in sant Elmo's Fire.
Oh there's no, he doesn't just put that into YouTube.
You want to be blown away, g Man?

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
You don't want to talk about it now. I was
impressed by him. I am impressed you have a little
rift in the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
What can he do? Do anything he wants? We are missing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
It was the jazz flute. Certain scene. That's great. You're welcome,
You're welcome. Love it dog Today. Favorite Brown's uniform configurations,
any variant you'd like to see in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
White, orange lid, white over white orange lid, brown over
white standards. I think that the all white that we
wore last year is really cool with the white lid,
and I think the all brown we wore the really cool.
I don't love the orange pants.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
No, me neither. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
I know some people don't. We're looking at it right there.
I that over a white pant, yeah is great. Yeah,
I really kind of like this. In the all Whites,
I think the all whites, I think a Bernie and
the all whites. I mean, that's what it's. That's what
it to me. I think the all whites is the look.
I love that one. Clean Clean, It's so Chris clean.

Speaker 4 (01:29:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
Brownie and the ak Man. We're supposed to get our
first real snowfall the winter later today. He was in Alaska. Yeah,
your boy, this is you're supposed to get it. Sunday
night into Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yeah, it sounds like it. I'm sure. Well, oh, the
kids aren't in school Monday anyway, So what difference does
it make? Of course?

Speaker 14 (01:29:26):
Perfect?

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Why not? It's adjacent to Veterans Day, I'm sure or something.

Speaker 9 (01:29:30):
I don't know it is.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
It has to be.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Do any of you guys enjoy any outdoor winter activities
or sports? No. I enjoy going to Florida and playing golf.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Yeah, so I we made a deal when we moved.
When we moved north, if you're going to live up here,
you got to live in winter. So the boys ski,
We do all of that stuff. They all ski where
I grew up in, which is relatively I guess, compared
to the rest of the continental United States, relatively close
to Alaska. We skied in snowollbild all the time and

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had the Snowmobiling is awesome, is undefeated. It's so much fun.
I used to love to ski. I don't. I think
here it's borderline dangerous. I'm terrified every time I go,
and I like, good lord, I feel like there's sixty
thousand people coming to a million different places. That's it's crazy.
But out West, I love it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
The girls, the girls have been on snowboard since they
were old enough to study.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
And I think, and I was a skateboarder growing up,
you probably do find it, Tony. You would probably do
very well on a board then. And I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
I don't like how your legs are locked in. Yeah, yeah,
I feel it just feels like I'm gonna rip my knee.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
I want to lose. I want to do bob sleds.
You're gonna lose? Should be a scene. Oh man, you
said it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
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