WR Isaiah Bond on Adapting to the NFL - Cleveland Browns Daily - 11.26.25 - Cleveland Browns Daily

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I lets do live on a loaded up the first
Friday edition. This is the ultimate First Friday, merely bow
the great z. This is the first Friday the first
Fridays were made for. Is this one heading into the
Thanksgiving home? This is the biggest football Christmas.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Social gathering, pub, bar, watering hole night of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
It's number west. I mean, you and that at various
points of your life, it represents different things. Whether you're
you know that first time like that you were legally
able to go to like your hometown pub and have
a drink with with family and friends. So those times
are great, and then there's times as adults and times
when you're stranded. I mean, there's many times in this

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business that we're in that I've often I always have
to work this weekend because when I was in Florida,
this was Florida State, Florida was this weekend, and obviously
it's o high to State Michigan. So I've never not
worked the friday after this, so this is kind of
like the one day that you have is this night,
heading into heading into tomorrow. It was also I mean,
this was.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
For for young folks who make their first day all
go off to college.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
When you come back that.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
First reunion post college, which happens on that on this
Wednesday night. This used to be the night of Mizfest. Tequila,
I thought, Tequila, Yeah, this is what it's society. I
could walk around with air pods in and they.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Just I can tell you, good to see it, good
to talk.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
To you, guys, Thanks for jumping in.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
We should have just brought booze and started drinking, because
no one else is here anyways, I don't even.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Notice that I've been I was doing.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
No one else is here, so we might as well brought.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Some cocktails, a lot of a lot of dimmed lights lights.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Fela may have started the first Friday of all first
Fridays on a Tuesday night. Oh first Friday.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Evey, that's a bold move.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
I believe he's hurting a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
I believe that Tequila and young Gabriel started the ultimate
first Friday on a Friday.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
I think it was I've Benzo two weeks ago. Oh yeah,
I wasn't time that night. I was.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
I was facetimed live. You were facetimed live by you
have a small baby man. Yeah, well I happened.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
To be out as well.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Oh, okay, okay, it was actually it was.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yeah, it was two weekendsgo because my boys, when my
boys were in town, ok for the Ravens game, for
the Friday Friday night for the Ravens game.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, he looks like he enjoyed it.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
He supposed to.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Two minutes.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Right now. Oh man, this he's frowning three o'clock.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
The professionals around.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
That's how good last night.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Hold on, there's a million trade that prevent that from happening,
right If I'm wrong, he's still in his twenties, is
he not? Of course, no reason for him to still
be in this like a.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Champion, no excuses.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Back in my day, in the twenties, give in the
twenties and our twenties, come on, we would be going
again and by three, run it next day, run it back.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
There was a good chance that maybe at lunchtime we
needed something to get hair of the dog. Yeah. Yeah,
you get back on the horn.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
When you fall off the horse, what do you do?
You get back on the Yes, that's it.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Whatever. Yeah, well can It's a.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Fun one out there, so enjoy, be safe.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
It's going to be I think the weather is going
to start getting all right, does it start getting nasty tonight?

Speaker 3 (04:02):
I left. I had some things to do after my
morning activities, and then I left. Talked to your boy
this morning, the great Herbs. Do you know what his
record is in rivalry games in college from all of
his school Okay, so he was at unblemished, No, it's blemish,
but not much. So he's at Bowling Green, where you
gotta beat Toledo, yep, and he's split. He's split. He's

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at Utah, where you got to beat BYU. He went
to and oh yeah. Then he went to Florida, where
you got to beat Tennessee, Florida State, and Georgia, and
he went He went sixteen and two okay against those,
then undefeated, and then seven and zero against Michigan for
a grand total of twenty six and three in rivalry games.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Basically, I was trying to find Basically unblemished pretty much.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
And the only one of the three was his year two.
At year two at Bowling Green, he lost to Toledo.
And you must have had an injury that year, Gibbet,
because they were Bowling Green was ranked like twentieth and
the country. I was looking this up this morning. They
were like twentieth in the country.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
The first they'd be school to ever have college game day.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Okay, so that so did somebody get hurt, Like did
Josh Harris get hurt? Like what happened?

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, they had they had a star wide receiver who
was a playmaker and he went down that they had
a couple.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Injuries because they lost like three of their last four. Yes,
but they were undefeated and ranked like twentieth in the
country up until that point, and they beat Power five
teams like they were there. But I was curious, like
I wonder, like Saban was eighteen and ten at Toledo,
Michigan State, LSU, and Alabama and what you would call
rivalry games, No one's even in the vicinity, Like there

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might be like a new Rockney or something from one
hundred years ago who was incredible, but nobody's better than
urban and rivalry games.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
It was.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Twenty six and three in games that matter to your
school is nuts. But that's that's how that guy rolls
on the college side of things. Back here on the
professional side of things. No practicing today for us or
not practicing today for US? Denzol Ward out with a migraine,
Aiden Huntington with a quad, Brendan Bates with ankle. Did
I hear another one that you added? Give Alex right
right not practice today? Okay, but I guess it was

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known that he wasn't going to be out.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
There yet it was known the practice reports didn't have
it on there. So we had a question. But got
that answer, all.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right, very good and because we won. Miles Garrett earned
AFC Defensive Player of the Week for the game's last weekend.
The National Football League announced on Wednesday. It's the fifth
career weekly award for Miles, first since Week twelve of
twenty twenty four. He joins Andre Schmidt Grant Delpitt, who
a Special Teams Player of the Work, is the third
third Browns player to be named AFC Player of the

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Week this season.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, and Miles Garrett now has five Player of the
Week awards tied with the great Bernie Kozar for the
most ever by a Browns player.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Is that so that's the number?

Speaker 5 (06:49):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I guess you can't win it at left tackle.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
I think he is zero Player of the Week award
for the yeah he gets off.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
What is hoff got to get to get a clean
I mean, how many clean sheets you got to get
to get AFC Offensive Player of the Week.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I don't think that there's even a possibility. But he
he'd have to probably catch a touchdown on a tackle eligible.
You'd have to catch a touchdown. Maybe you'd have to.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Catch two allow no pressures and like no, blank, we'd
have to run for three hundred and twenty yards.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
At the time blank, like DeMarcus Ware there you go,
or Terrell Suggs something we didn't.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
But a lot of that stuff was that was right.
He was right at the onset of like the PFF
stuff and a lot of like that data wasn't available. Yeah,
that we have now in terms of how they're grading
and all that.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
I'm going so far as say, I don't believe that
there has ever been a non skill positioned person who's
ever won Offensive Player of the Week.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I think that's fair. Who do you think has won
the most offensive Players of the Week in NFL history?
And I don't have the answer. I'm just curious what
the guess is Peyton Manning. That would be my guess too,
That's the first that popped.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Into my mind.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, greatest regular season quarterback Allever.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, I think Peyton absolutely.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
And then defensive, who do you think is one of
the most defensive?

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, I think one thing we need to understand is
when did they start doing this?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I understand I'm gonna say.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
I'll be damned what I was gonna say. Are Jerry right?
The same thing I am?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
The most is Tom Brady?

Speaker 5 (08:25):
That's fine, I mean that would be that's a.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
That's a. But I would have thought it was Manny.
So he's won. Yeah, Brady's won forty. Wow, Manning's won
thirty seven. Okay, Breeze has won thirty two. He is
third on that.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
So this feels like this is something that is in
the two tis very new.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
It seems to me like, can we talk about who's fourth?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Oh my gosh, with a special team.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
It's a kicker.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
John Carney won it twenty eight times.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Good for head?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
How about that?

Speaker 5 (08:52):
John Carney.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
That's isn't John Carney the kicking coach for our guy?
Then John Carney Andre Schmid's kicking coach.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
The most defensive was Derek Thomas fifteen.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
So that goes back aways.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, that's eighty nine to ninety ninety one, fifteen of them.
He has the most defensive ones. I'll tell you what,
Miles should have already had three this year, like if
we win, like he would be it.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah. John Carney is the kicking coach for Andre Schmidt?
Are Andre Schmid?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
How about that?

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Like just his personal kicking coach? Yeah yeah, huh quite accomplished,
played for twenty three seasons. Yeah, Bruce Smith at thirteen,
Derreck Thomas. They really spread the defensive ones out because
I mean they got a Mark Moseley on here who
played from seventy to eighty six.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
So then these are older than they're older.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, Lawrence Taylor won at sixteen times, so I guess
that's more. That's the most What about what about?

Speaker 4 (09:50):
I would have thought JJ Watter Aaron Donald would even
in the top Revis Island.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
No, they're nowhere even in the top.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Brime now Ed Reid ray Lewis, Brian Urlocker.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Nope, no, Lawrence Taylor number one and then Derek Thomas
number two. I mean Miles has five, He's got five,
So yeah, in order to get to the you know.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
By the way, the fact that Miles has five in
his career and Jordan Brooks has two this season is blasphemy.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well yeah, that's also the nonsense of the have to
win in order to win it thing, which is dumb.
It seems silly, a three phase game, Yeah, it really is.
Are we going to get all this in? I mean,
I'm just looking at this. We've got Matt I'm telling you,
we just got to stay on clock, got to stay
on clock. We got we got college football four downs,

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oh my god, over unders. We got our matchups. Oh
my gosh.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
By the way, I didn't even throw it in there.
Isaiah Bond just joined us. We just hate him. So
we'll do Bond and matchups. But the matchups are quick.
It's just one matchup.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I don't know. Should we break now, sure? I think
we should break now. Let's go so much going on
and we never do this, But I just feel large
and Kes living together. We got her keV keV. I'm ready.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
I bet he Kevin, is kevit done hosting? I think
Kevin's cleaning the toilets over there after he's done. He's
doing it all natorial work. That's right, I do it
all man. It's okay. I got it.

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Speaker 6 (12:33):
Away from it, she said, you know, I really liked
what I did here, and I really feel like this
is things I needed to really really work for you
to progress on.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
I was really thankful for being out there, of course.
And there's everything you know, in the midst of a
game that you could progress in when it comes to
like even forward, when you're hitting the ball off locane defenders,
understand that the windows do c it was a little
bit quicker. You know, It's a lot of things that

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you could go back and and in a game and
and and look back and wanna re rejo.

Speaker 8 (13:10):
I seen that all to say, like, you know what,
can we reasently ex recently expect you in your second
start where you couldn't expect.

Speaker 9 (13:15):
Yourself in the sassof, I'll say to do my job.

Speaker 8 (13:18):
Sure, how about didn't E lout you after the game
kind of for the first time, just how hard this
past six.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Months really has been for you, which for the most
party for us. You had that smile, had that great
attitude and everything, but uh, this was a lot harder,
or wasn't it then?

Speaker 9 (13:37):
And you really let on?

Speaker 10 (13:38):
And why and how were you able to just not
show it.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
As such a show?

Speaker 7 (13:42):
Well, first and foremost I got got so through that
he's able to protect me through everything.

Speaker 9 (13:48):
But we're in a good.

Speaker 7 (13:49):
Moment now, you know. And uh, I I don't like
looking back. I don't like looking back at the past,
you know. And how I was feeling in that moment, however,
it was because I'm hearing now, So I don't never
doell on the pass and and things that happened before.

Speaker 10 (14:05):
Should Harold on seeing the yards after the catch, he's
able to kick up? What's that like for you as
a quarterback? And Dylan Sampson made the comment that Harold
just never quits on a place like.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
No, it's great to be out there with Harold. I
know all the receiver cord that's that's the goal is
to get. Yet you know, yards have to catch. So
I think he said an example, he set the ball
high for us in his team.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Lack Cleveland Browns quarterback is everyone his first to start
surprise you.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
And you feel I don't really go off analytics, analytics
and all that stuff, and it doesn't really, it doesn't really, Uh,
it really doesn't matter to me, honestly. You know, I'm
focused on what I could do and what I could control.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
You could be the first.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
Always with the best, you know, and I do everything
I can, you know, for this team and for everybody.
But I got a great defense, got a great team,
got great receivers.

Speaker 9 (15:07):
So I'm just thankful it was a big play that
I said your yard or help you?

Speaker 10 (15:12):
And then did you notice the effect that it seemed
to have on the rest of the team.

Speaker 9 (15:16):
Well, it's it's about belief.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (15:19):
The reason why I am so confident in the way
I am is is the guys around believe you know
so that that's that's what's most important. Within having the team,
within having the offense, within having to have a spark,
you know you you gotta have guys that believe you
know so, And I'm fully confident myself throughout everything, you know,

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and I'm confident my team and I'm sure they confident
in me also sure.

Speaker 10 (15:46):
Obviously you had a conversation with Kevin about remaining the
Starter earlier this week. Just what was that all of
like for you, because you talk about the where you
put in six months to get your point to just start.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
To know that you got that opportunity, but you did enough.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
To keep the job, and what was that like?

Speaker 7 (16:04):
Well, I'll say I'm definitely not comfortable though, So that's
that's first and foremost that I have another opportunity to
go out there. But in life you gotta understand how
how quickly things come or how long it comes. It
could be taken at any point in time. So I'm
never comfortable in situation I'm in. I always want to
exceed expectations and always want to grow, you know, in

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each and every week.

Speaker 9 (16:27):
I would want to put a.

Speaker 7 (16:28):
Better product, but myself be a better version of myself
for the team to be out there with.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
Dylan Sampson, I've seen him handle this year. He kind
of got off through so start and it seems to
be coming on. Obviously made that huge.

Speaker 7 (16:40):
Play for you, So don't be in the same all year,
you know, mentally, so you wouldn't even know unless you
look at the numbers, you know. So, uh, he has
good energy get everything, you know when he's out there,
so yourself and then in.

Speaker 10 (16:55):
The president of the United States an NFL players, so yeah,
for you to get you know.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
And I told you so from the President of the
United States.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
What what did that meet here this yek?

Speaker 9 (17:06):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (17:06):
Yeah, he definitely. He definitely been a supporter, you know
for a minute. So I'm just thankful for him from
you know, even taking time out of his day to
be able to speak out, you know, and support.

Speaker 10 (17:18):
He should or obviously unforced circumstances for why Dylan Gabriel
lost the starting job last week, we do a percussion.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
But now that he's back, just how has.

Speaker 10 (17:27):
He sort of showed support for you already this week
as you guys knew.

Speaker 9 (17:31):
Ready for Yeah, definitely, he's a hard worker. He's the
same guy.

Speaker 7 (17:35):
I feel like a lot of people in his locker
room is the same within every situation they're in. You understand,
he's spent a lot of years in CODs, so he
got experience in a lot of different areas and a
lot of different people, so he knows how to like
bond and mess with different people.

Speaker 9 (17:49):
So since he'd been back, he's been good. He's been good,
he been cool throughout everything. Sure, how's it feel to
be part of it?

Speaker 6 (17:56):
We've talked so much about this rookie class and now
you're contribute as part of it. Just how do you
look at this entire group and you being part of it?

Speaker 9 (18:05):
Yeah, I'm just thankful. You know, Andrew very made the choices,
you know he.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
Made, and and the coaching staff for getting us all here.
I feel like it's a great class. We all bond together,
we're all we're all like family, you know. So I'm
just thankful that we're all here together. And I know
it's gonna be very exciting. And you have high expectations
for us. You know, we're here to exceed those.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Who do you see from.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
When when you watch them on tape and the game.

Speaker 9 (18:33):
We're not trying to ask you to give away game,
you know for sure? What do you see when you
do defense? They're well coached team.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
Honestly, they rush the pass very good, They're great in coverage,
have great disguises. Overall, they know how to get pressure
to the quarterback. So they're they're great all around defense.
You know, we know, we know they're gonna have some
different you know, cooking for us.

Speaker 9 (18:57):
But it's going out there, even having this opportunity, you know,
to to go out there and study him and be
able to go on a field. It is cool, you know,
it's very cool. So I'm just thankful for.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
All right. Time to meet those San Francisco forty nine ers.
It's presented by Vividseats Official Fan Experienced package of your
Cleveland Browns San Francisco eight and four on the season,
that is good for third in the hyper competitive NFC West.
Coached by the Gangster Kyle Shanahan, he is seventy seven
to sixty six in his ninth season as a head coach.

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He is a two time NFC champion series record. The
Browns do lead that thirteen to eight. Last time out,
we won here. We remember this one very well. Nineteen
to seventeen. Wasn't that the one one Pedro picked them
to win on Brown's Daily.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
That's right, and then they lost. That was Loo's first
game in the booth. That's Jake Moody. He missed it
wide to the right, that's right. Last time out, they
beat Carolina at twenty to nine. Their league rankings offense
tenth overall, twenty sixth then rushing third, in passing, their
defense twenty second overall, tenth against the run, twenty six
against the pass. The turnover differential is minus six. For

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more on the San Francisco forty nine ers, we turn
it over to Duck to Zee. Yeah, this is a
very very good offense and they are kind of positionless.
They got a lot of guys that can do a
lot of things for them. Christian McCaffrey right now sensational,
leading the league in total yards from scrimmage, total touches,

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rushing attempts, receptions, all of it. They've got youth check
Kittle's having a nice season. Jake Toanjas has been a
nice addition for them at the tight end position. Piersoll's
back healthy. You know, they've got Juwan Jennings having a
nice season. Sky Moore the former Chiefs hit some nice
plays for them. DeMarcus Robinson. They just have a lot
of guys. Kendrick Burn's got a couple games over one
hundred yards. He had won over one hundred and fifty

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where they just move people around. They don't have a
great line, but they haven't given up a ton of sacks,
just nineteen this season. They don't run it well, but
they somehow do a lot of those what I call
long handoffs, especially to Christian mcaff For you who has
just been you know, this is one of those seasons
he's having that is just it's he's special.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Now, my get.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
I can't tell you how many times per Niners game,
including on Monday night, where I get text from my
dad who was furious with how much Christian McAffrey touches
the Well, well, dad, he's very good. He's like Brian Robbins.
He's like they're going to get him hurt. So he
leads a league with two hundred and seventeen carries, he
leads a league with eighty one receptions. That's never happened before.
Nobody has ever led the league in carries and receptions.

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He leads the league. He already has we played twelve
games they have. He leads the league. He's got two
hundred and ninety eight touches already, fifteen hundred and eighty
one total yards and twelve total touchdowns. So he leads
the league in total touches, total yards, rushes and receptions.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
That is nuts that he's got basically eight hundred yards
rushing and receiving.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Oh, he's going He's going thousand thousand, yea for the
second time. Last time he did it was twenty nineteen.
To do that at the age of twenty nine would
really be something considering that prior to this season he'd
already had nineteen hundred touches in the NFL. To then
go one thousand, one thousand again is wild. In fact,
he hasn't been. His seven and eighty five through twelve

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games is the most he's had receiving since the year
he went over a thousand, So this is this is
kind of a wild thing. He's had two one hundred
catch seasons in his career, leading the league though twelve
games eighty one catches, which is kind of interesting because
that means now he's had the benefit. To be fair,
he's not even averaging seven catches the game. He's everything

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six point eight, but he's had the benefit of the
Niners haven't had a buy yet. Yeah, so there are
a lot of guys at eleven games who even if
they were averaging seven catches the game would be at
eighty one. I think it's be very hard from the
lead the league in receptions all the way through. But nonetheless,
that's who they are on offense, very good. This is
gonna be a fun one in terms of they're the
number two third down offense. The Browns are the number
three third down defense. They average twenty two first downs

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the game. They're fifth in the NFL. The Browns give
up just sixteen first downs a game. They are second
best in the league. So matchup of teams that are
very good at certain things here in terms of that. Now, defensively,
you flip it around, as Ceciliano said, this is the
not the who's who on defense, it's the who's he defense.
You don't know who any of these guys are. You

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really don't. They're without Warner, they're without Nick Bosa. I mean,
here's their starting line on defense, Alfred Collins, Khalia Davis,
Bryce Huff and Sam Ukuanu.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Huh who Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Their linebackers are Tatum Bethune, their seventh rounder from last year,
de Winter is a sixth rounder from twenty three, and
Luke Gifford, an undrafted free agent from nineteen. Their corners,
they got uped in stout their third round of this year,
Ronardo Green at the second round of the year before,
and then Demm Diamador Lenore, who was with the Chiefs,
who is a very good corner.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
He's there as well.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
This is not the no.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
This is Malik Mustafa.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Fourth round pick, Jaiir Brown, a third round pick, all
home grown but not necessarily a defense that you know,
they don't sack the quarterback. Third second in the NFL
in sacks. They are the number twenty six pass defense,
the number twenty two total defense. They are number twenty
six in turnover march here they're minus six yet they're
eight and four eighteenth on third downs. But they win.

(24:13):
They just they just win. They know what to do,
they know how to win, and they go out and win.
This is a matchup I think the Browns certainly could win.
D Winners leads the team with seventy eight tackles. Bryce
Hugh leads the team now with four sacks. It had
been Nick Moose had been tied for the team league
with three and he hasn't played in months. But you know,
you think about the fact that Mac Jones came in

(24:35):
went five to three in his eight starts, seventy percent completion,
thirteen touchdown, six picks, Purty three and one is a starter.
Numbers not quite as good he had the three pick
game last week. But they just they know how to win.
That's what they do. The home team in this matchup
has won five straight games, which is great, the Browns
being them. As you mentioned, nineteen to seventeen and twenty
three brownsley the season all time thirteen to eight.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Would not have had that.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
No, I would not. This must have played much in
that in the hay, in that heyday, through the.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
That's what we were gonna get into. Hey, we'd have
to look that up.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Actually a week I can't look that up, as I
as I talked, But yeah, this is this is a
winnable game. You've got to stop Christian McCaffrey. You've got
to try to make the forty nine ers one dimensional,
and then you have an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Here's how it goes. Uh, here we go.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Eighty four Niners win, eighty seven nine Ers win, ninety
nine Ers win, ninety three Browns win, two thousand and
three Browns win, two thousand and seven Browns win, eleven
Niners win, fifteen Browns win, nineteen Niners win.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
That was the Monday night beating.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Uh, and then the Browns won the last one.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
So this is right to go back to the fifties.
There you go. That's got to be where the Browns
have the dominance.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Brown started off five and two, eight and three from
nineteen fifty to nineteen eighty one eight and three, which
means they are five and five since.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, so that that tracks certainly. It's always fun when
when that uniform comes to town and this the weather's
going to be nuts.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
How about this Sunday twenty three, Yeah, that's not that
long ago. No Browns were quarterbacked by p J.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Walker. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
The leading rushers for the Browns on that day were
Jerome Ford and Kareem Hunt. The leading receiver that day
was Marquise Goodwin.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Jeez, I would not have had that.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
I'm sorry, he was a He had a twenty yard rush.
Sorry risk leading receiver, I'm already had one hundred and eight.
Kareem Hunt had twenty four. Uh, and for them it
was I UK had seventy six. McCaffrey got hurt in
that game early on, but he had a receiving touchdown.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
That's just wild. PJ. Walker, Amari Cooper, Kareem Hunt, Jerome Ford.
Someone else got hurt for the forty nine ers.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Deebo in the fed.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
Yeah, Debo got hurt like game skirmish.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
No, he didn't get hurt in the skirmish, but he
started a skirmish.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Well, there's a detention player in the middle. No, Trent
william Trent Williams got dinged up in that game. Yeah,
they know they lost.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Trent got hurt, McCaffrey got hurt, and Deebo got hurt
and they still had a field goal to win it
at the end and he missed it.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
He did.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
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(28:15):
the collegiate Variety. Time for four downs with your Uncle
bow in college football. Nate, Hello, Gibbe, Yeah, baby, gentlemen,
big weekend.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
This is it great? This is the best.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
The table is set.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Clear your schedules do nothing?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Well? Oh, what a tune too, cav.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Okay, boy, gotta come through. Let's go. Let's go the
big one, mammoth huge. Some people are saying the biggest ever.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Can say, Hey, where's the where's our fun moment for
in the in the rundown?

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Is it in the rundown? No, but we gotta have it.
Maybe we will, maybe we won't.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Bo wants it. The people want it? Okay, enough from
the clown wants it?

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Okay. We there's for an audience of one. That's it.
I was gonna say, I didn't even have to thank you,
thank you for finishing that. Uh, it's time for four
downs with Uncle Bo and college football Nate keV hit it.
First down. Ohio State finally beats the team up north Saturday.
If they do blank college football Nate.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Don't get in your heads, don't try to prove something.
Just win the game. You're the better team by a lot.
Just go out there and play a normal game plan.
Pretend like it's not Michigan. Pretend like you're playing any team.
Change the uniform all week, pretend's not Michigan. Get out
of your own heads. Ryanda from my sources down there
already is acting tense, acting like a different guy.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
No, be the same guy. Be you.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Let Ohio State be Ohio State. Here's the beautiful thing too,
This game doesn't really matter that much anymore. It was
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
It's a good way to die. Hold on.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Last year.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, losing that game should have ended their season, and
maybe it takes a completely different turn.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Preps.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Ryan Day's not even the coach of the team anymore. Yeah, okay,
what did you do after that game? He remind me
what the Buckeyes do after they lost the Michigan last Yeah,
they won out and and won it the national championship.
So of course it's important. It's important to the current students,
it's important to the alumni, it's important to all the
fans of the Buckeyes. But you can't build it into

(30:31):
something it's not anymore. This is not the end all
be all, and by the way, I'm saying that not
because I truly believe that. But if you take that mentality,
you're gonna smoke them.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I think the I mean, the weather's gonna be bad.
The quarterback is from southern California. He's never played in
games like this. He's the most accurate quarterback in the country.
I think a lot of what Z says is true.
I think they their defense is giving up seven points
a game historically good. All you have to do is
get to twenty one and you should be fine. I

(31:04):
can't see a scenario where Michigan scores three touchdowns in
this game. So unless you give them the football or
turn it over, it's hard to find a way. And
I do think the real key to this, the only
real flaw this team has this year is what I've
coined the short red zone, so inside the seven eight
yard line somewhere in there. They have on multiple times
this season gone for it on fourth down and goal

(31:26):
and not gotten it. And I think this is the
type of game Saturday three works. If you get inside
the five and they stuff you. The amount of energy
that it gives that stadium is hard to you can't
there's not a data point that can measure it properly.
If you get down there, kick the field goal, go
up three and make them chase. If you make this

(31:46):
Michigan team chase you, I don't think they can. So
just handle your business in the red zone every single
What Jim Trussel did not say the punt is the
most important. That's a big misnomer. The punt's most important
playing football. Thatt's that what he said. He said, any
play that ends with a CA is the most important
playing football. So what he means by that is extra
points field goals. That's the difference was what he went

(32:07):
with with that, And I think that's important. I think
get points when you can make Michigan chase, and you'll
be fine.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Let me say this as well, because this ties into it.
I think that there is a a misnomer that has
somehow burrowed its way into Ryan Day's head that it's
not enough to beat Michigan. He has to beat Michigan
in a certain way by proving the toughness of Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
So that goes back to for the longest time, whichever
team won the rushing battle won the game.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Okay, well they have as quarterback and receivers in the country.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
So but it's crazy because like JK. Dobbins went for
two hundred against him, Carlos Hyde, Damn Near went for
two hundred against him, Beanie went for two hundred against him,
Zeke went for two hundred against him. Like there's all
these instances where like whichever running back, Like there's like
on the Michigan side like Biakabatuca Timby.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Remember there's these.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Crazy games that were like whoever runs it the most
wins it. Like there was a stat So I think
that's where that kind it came from. That's fine, don't
worry at it anymore. Just win, Just win, baby, Al Davis,
just win, baby, just it. Don't make it bigger than
it has to be. Just it's a football game that
you're the better team, go out and win.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Yep. Next second down. What is your most memorable moment
or player in the Ohio state team up North rivalry?

Speaker 3 (33:21):
You went to one? You were at the Game of
the Century, weren't you.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
I was at the game that's where they got stopped
on the fourth down Michigan got Was that the where
thought it was short?

Speaker 5 (33:28):
It was?

Speaker 3 (33:29):
You were there at sixteen? Was the Curtis Samuel walk off? Yes,
that's probably the loudest at stadium ever. Was it was
pretty cool? Yeah, that was a very fun That's a
fourth down. J T. Barrett Sneak said, Harbaugh forever is
going like.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
The short yep, holiday members on that team.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I want to say, yeah. And then the next play
Curtis Samuel went walks it off and that wins it
the game over game. It's amazing when you rewatch the
highlight of that, like how quickly they had the because
fireworks went off, Like there he's barely in the back
of the end zone and fire are going off in
the stadium. Like that's how quickly they had it.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah, that one was really cool. That's the only one
that I've been at personally. Yeah, and then I remember
the year, I want to say it was in the
early two thousands where it was.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
One v two Chad Henny. That's six. That's game of
the century.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
I wasn't a set, but I remember vividly watching it.
I was in New York, I want to say, for
a wedding, and I remember watching it in the hotel
and being very engrossed.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
To the Yeah, it was number one versus number two.
They've played as top five five times in the last decade,
both in the top five. The previous stretch record for
that was the ten year war with Woody and bow
they played seven times when they were both ranked in
the top five. So they've done this a lot, which
is why it's the best rivalry in college football by
a wide margin.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
There's a lot.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I was at everyone from seven through sixteen. I've been
at a couple cents. The one that it has nothing
to do actually with the game. They had a senior
captain in the twenty twelve team when they were undefeated
named Johnny Simon. He was a Cardinal Mooney kid, and
he was the heart and soul of that team. And
they were undefeated. They couldn't play in a bowl game
and he had a big time knee problem and he

(35:09):
wanted to play in the game. And his knee was
the size of a grape. Oh, it's bigger than a grape.
Beside is a watermelon. And he tried to getting it
drained and drained and drained to be able to play.
And I'll never forget. We're all wondering, like he's going
to play? Is he's not going to play. They were
trying to be undefeated in twenty twelve and I looked
down from the press box and I saw him not
in his uniform, but with a brace on his knee.

(35:31):
He was the last kid introduced, tears streaming down his
face because he couldn't play in it. Urban hugged him
like it was his son, and I thought, that's what
it is right there, that's what it meant. That's that's
the game. It's there what he did to play, and
then it wasn't enough, and it just broke him to
not play. I love Johnny Simon, really good Ford slory.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Yeah. The year they beat Michigan to go to the
national title in two thousand.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
And two, oh two, sure is well because.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Saying it was it was trust all the way nail
Bier to get to the Orange Bowl and yeah and
just what the fan you know, my buddies were still there,
like yeah, just insane.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah that it's it's hard to I was in Florida
at that time, so it's hard. I can't even imagine
because it'd been forever been on that stage. All the
newspapers still probably yeah, yeah, magical team.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Next turned down factor fiction. Ohio State can win the
national championship with only one of its two wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
It's a fact as long as that. I really think
it's Jeremiah Smith needs to be the one. And that's
not a disrespect to Carnel Tata's just Jeremiah Smith is
I think generational. I think that they've got their quarterback
is great. Their talent overall is great. But as you
said it before, it's the defense. They don't need to
score a ton of points to win.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
Now.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
I saw a mock draft today that had that had
Rvel going one, Caleb going seven, and by the way
to the Bengals, I've seen them will one two, yeah,
and then uh sunny styles in the top fifteen. There's
four defensive players in the first round. Be Kate McDonald's
going to be first round or two. I think they
have four first round picks on their defense and the
three of those Reese styles in Caleb, they are so

(37:18):
damn smart, Like what he does, what Patricia does with
them is pretty remarkable. What he's doing with them. Yeah,
the way they disguise stuff. So yes, they can as
long as it's Jeremiah that I think they can.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Yeah, final one, s four, it's down. What is the
best rivalry this weekend in college football that is not.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
High a second? I prepare for this. Okay, it doesn't
say this weekend.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Okay, I'll take out this weekend. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Wouldjake Migo first, Yeah, go ahead, the brawl of the
wild baby, let's go, let's go, let's go. Yeah, big win.
Last week eight they won, correct me if I'm wrong
here about two in a row. That's three out of
four and seven of the last nine.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
They have their cruising.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
I mean when I was a kid, the grids one
all the time.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
So I'll have you know.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
And one of the reason I said, obviously it's a
you know, cater to We're heart.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
I love you a great deal.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
But when I was in the elevator in Vegas. A
couple of our coaches were on there like Quality Control ESA,
and they were all they were just talking about that
how great the Brawl of the Wild was and how
really that was like the coolest have you ever been
to one? And one guy's like yeah, and he's like.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
It's so cool.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
The state, like the view, just the experience of it
is awesome. So that's what I'm going with.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
If you ever do go, If if you're looking for
like a bucket list thing to go to, it go
to and I'm Montese, go to Missoula because that stadium
is it's in the mountain, right in the base of
Hellgate Canyon, and so that's the panorama, is the rocky mountains,
Like it's crazy cool place. So that would be it.
You know what makes o High State. There's a million
things that make Ohio State Michigan the best. But the
big thing is is they both have been really great

(39:00):
for fifty years and really one hundred years, like Auburn
Alabamas this weekend the Iron Bowl. But there's great stretches
of time where one of them is terrible off, and
there's stretches of time when they're both been bad and
they didn't play for forty years. Probably my favorite, and
I think the only thing that dings it from being
on the Ohio State Michigan level is when it's played
is probably red River. I think Texas Oklahoma would be

(39:23):
an awesome game, but it's played in the first weekend
in October every year, so it doesn't quite have the consequences.
One of pure hate is going to happen Friday Night,
which is Texas Texas, A and M. Like that is
pure hate. Another one that's pere hate is Missouri Kansas,
but they play now earlier in the season too. There's
a lot of them.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
They should take Oklahoma Texas and they should put it
on Black Friday.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
That'd be great. Yeah, but they love it at that
State Fair. They do it at the State Fair and
they do all of that. But like that one is
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We like to call over under dun dun dunda dunda
dun dun dun dun. So we had seven last week,

(40:57):
U Z backed up a five and oh with a
five and two. Yeah, the call it moving time? Yeah,
give it you were bad four and three. You guys
had all same except for one. So that's the way
it was gonna go. Got it, Zee, You are now
thirty five and twenty two overall thirty five? Yeah, give
a thirty two and twenty five three two man not

(41:20):
as good? Yeah, less less than less than much. All right,
here we go, boys, We have a seven pack again.
Mister z Young Gabriel, bring yourself to the camera. Young
Gabriel's over unders last week?

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Where he gave two of them? He did.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
One was the opening kickoff over under twenty seven and
a half yards.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
Do you know what the opening kickoff was?

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Twenty eight twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
The other was Carson Swetzinger over under nine and a
half tackles.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
The number was ten. Actually I think it was eleven.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
If you count the special teams, it was eleven. But yeah,
young Gabril, Yeah, that's right. The ball's not gonna spike itself.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Good job to him.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
That's twenty seven and a half and it's twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Is unbelievable, it really is.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
I would imagine he's going to get a call from
somebody in Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Oh baby, bookmaker?

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
All right, you guys, ready, ready, I'm always right. Pass
attempts for first time starter Shador Sanders in home debut
twenty and a half DUC disease twenty and a half
pass attempts. That's over, dog, that is over.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
This is gonna be a good competitive football game, whether
it's not gonna be great, but we're not asking for
him to throw it fifty times.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Forem's twenty twenty one, twenty one times, doable, doable.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Give for whatever reason, because I'm awesome at guessing numbers.
I thought you were gonna say twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
So I, oh, you're well over, well over all right,
well over all right.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
Next over thunder all.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Right, we're gonna we're gonna get a little creative with
our boy Christian McCaffrey here, so you can have over
under Quinn, Shawn Judkins, and Dylan Samson over under McCaffrey
by himself, gibbe total yards.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
I will take the Cleveland Browns for five hundreds. I'll
take s words.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Totally yards. So I just want to just throw one
thing out here.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
McCaffrey's basically sixty six sixty six each way, so he's
about one hundred and hundred and twenty five something like that.
One hundred and thirty eight game.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Yeah, last week would have been.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
So he's gone one forty two, one ninety six, one
seventy three, sixty eight, two oh one, one eleven, one
forty one, forty one ten, one forty.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
But it's not against our defense, that's right.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Not against our defense. Now, I will say this because.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Dylan's coming along.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
This is back to his boyhood love right here.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
This is our best game from Dylan. Dylan goes eighty two. Yep, Judkins,
this is our This would I think probably be the
best combined game that they've had, at least recently.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
So they would have been won twenty nine.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
With a sixty six yard catch and running there. Look,
here's the thing. You pick up more yards through the air,
and we are going to be beating them. Unlike Gibbe,
I have belief in the Browns, and thus McCaffrey is
gonna have to have all these passing yards.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
He's leading the league in reception.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Here, throw to mcaff throw mccaff throw to McCaffrey. Or
we're down what is that? What's that, Nathan, We're down
twenty eight in the fourth quarter. Yeah, that's right. We're
gonna be throwing to McCaffrey, throwing it to McCaffrey, throw
it Toeah.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
And that's a dominance.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
And so therefore, because of my love and belief in
the Browns, mckinfrey.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Next over under.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
By the way, backing the Browns served me, well, he
hasn't been backing the Browns.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
I have brock perty completions seventeen and a half.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
Oh, so I'm on BFF eight look it up quick.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
I don't need to look at up because again I
already told you how. I'm I told you how you're
going to go. You gotta go over, yes, chase, chase
down twenty eight, Jump it off to McAffrey, Dump it
off to McCaffrey.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
McAffrey left. Mcaffrey's over over over seventeen minutes over a
right over. You're not sacking a whole lot of offensive
fireworks in this game, so I am not over under nolf.
I was looking at the weather. I think it's going
to be a slog man. I think it's going to
be thirteen to ten Yeah, sacks turnovers yet twenty eight

(45:33):
it is. I think it's going to be very difficult
for us. But twenty eight sacks plus turnovers in this game,
we're going four and a half. Give it four and
a half. Hmmm, I'll save you the look up party
didn't get sacked last week, although he did.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
They're pretty good in that aspect.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
But it's going to be sloppy.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
It's going to be sloppy. I'm sorry. We find we
find ways to defy. When people tell us we can't
do something to offensively, we go ahead and we do
it over all right. I mean, I feel like this
could be Miles Garrett's over under. So you're going over
to of course, Good job, Pedro Junior. Next over under

(46:13):
all right?

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Thursday football?

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Oh is this again, Gabriel?

Speaker 3 (46:18):
No, Young Gabriel didn't participate this week Thursday football.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
He sent it to you.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
No, I didn't get anything from him.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
He sent you a text.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Controversy brewing. Oh my god. We'll add these as bonuses.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
Nine.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
We gotta fly through this, all right. Chiefs Dallas total viewers,
doctor Z forty point five million total viewers. The record
for most viewed Thanksgiving Day game Giants Cowboys from twenty
three was forty two point six for context, so forty

(46:54):
point five million. Chiefs Cowboys medialy do thirty nine point five.

Speaker 8 (47:01):
No.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
Bending the rules, not betting the rules is an ask. Yeah,
I know you have the right to.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
End forty over point five over.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
I'll go under, just barely, but I'm going undre we.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Go if I said under, you to said over Thursday
night the.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Whole time, next over under.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
All right, give you there are six teams playing on
Thursday six six AFC total points scored over under NFC
total points scored.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
God, So the.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Lions are playing the Packers, the Cowboys are playing the Chiefs,
and the Ravens are playing the Bengals. So you can
have the total points of the a f C or
the NFC.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
Wow, that is a hell of a question here. You're welcome.
I don't know if anybody's playing defense in any of
these games. Boy, the Ravens just haven't gotten right, uh.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
ANFC AFC all right, So that isn't over for Z
and Cincinnati. I'm banking on the Cincinnati Baltimore game to
give me.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
Yeah, that's the one. I just I don't know what the.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Now we're back. These are the g Man picks g
Total touchbacks? Who's going first? Z? On this one?

Speaker 5 (48:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Total touchbacks over under one point five?

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Total touchbacks county g Man.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
For clarification purposes, this counts punts as well. Just kickoffs.
Just kickoffs, okay, just kickoffs? Who goes first?

Speaker 10 (48:39):
Here?

Speaker 5 (48:40):
Where the hell did you pull this from? Under? Yeah?
I'm going under as well?

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Right under under? Next one from g Man over it
loves the kicking game. He does big kicking game guy,
he's special. All right, longest completion give a from Shador Sanders.
The number is twenty three point five. Givee twenty three
point five.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
I want over in a very bad way, but the weather,
I think is going to prohibit that I will go under.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Over Dude, he even went over and then in the
game on four completions against Baltimore. Gibbe, you have no
belief in this team.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
Over under?

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Okay, I hope you take things, give play and get
some belief.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Now, thirty six and a half ze thirty six and
a half is the actual. We've never done nine before either,
breaking all sorts of rules.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Twenty eight How many points is twenty eight to seven?

Speaker 3 (49:37):
You had a twenty eight to nothing. How many points
is twenty eight to seven?

Speaker 5 (49:40):
Thirty five? Under?

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Under? Over? Baby, all right, we could have a big
movement here. Really happened. Gonna be very excited.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
How many differences a lot?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Like?

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Five?

Speaker 5 (49:54):
No? Way? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Oh yeah? One?

Speaker 5 (49:56):
Two? Yeah, you're a three minute it's into the game.
It's going to be going, hey, what did you have?
What'd you have? Five? Five out of nine?

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Five out of nine? Yeah? All right, second, I'm coming
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are very happy to be joined by Isaiah Bond. Isaiah,
how are you doing?

Speaker 11 (50:42):
I'm doing a maser can't complaining.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Fifty two yards? Fifty two yards? That was there the time,
the longest pass play the season. You had had that
earlier in the year thirty five. You get fifty two
yards on that one. Got asked how close were you
to being able to keep your feet right there at
the end.

Speaker 11 (50:59):
I definitely was very close.

Speaker 8 (51:01):
I think my momentum definitely took me to the ground,
but I tried to die for an end zone, but
I didn't want to fumble it, so.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
That's why I kind of reached the ball back. Smart
take care of the football. We got it in on
the very next play. Obviously, we want to see you
get that touchdown. But you know, you and I have
talked and I see practice every day. You catch one
two of those every practice, and have been all season long,
and we've just been waiting and waiting for that opportunity.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
In the game.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
You've been behind the defense sometimes finally got behind the
ball came. What were you kind of thinking when the
ball was actually there, because you're like, it's finally happening.

Speaker 8 (51:31):
Yeah, I think I know, get the same reaction every
time a deep ball gets done at me.

Speaker 11 (51:35):
I mean there's go time.

Speaker 8 (51:36):
I think any type of deep threat or any receiver,
whenever it's the ball near you got to have that
mentality as mine. So that definitely was my mind state.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
All right, So pre snap, they're going cover zero. Now
normally it covers zero. Usually see them give you a
little cushion. Your guy came up and pressed you immediately,
so I'm sure where you pre snapped, You're like, all right,
if we can block this up, I got a good shot.

Speaker 8 (51:57):
Here, yeah, one hundred percent. I mean always like that
should be in a fast receiver. If you give me
a couple of seconds, I'm gonna be opened downfield.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
When you have somebody in that situation where they're pressing you,
then maybe you didn't think they were gonna be pressing you,
but when they were, how important is that release and
what's kind of going through your mind pre snap to
decide exactly what release you want to get to be
able to get vertical?

Speaker 8 (52:16):
I mean, honestly, I love when guys come down and
press me, you know, because it lets me use the
off season training, all the stuff I've worked for an
off season, you know, press, release, releases, you know second
second level moves, so les me allows me to use
those type of uh, you know, combats to come back
to defense. So I honestly love when people come down
and press me.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
How different is that from college college? Not a whole
lot of pressing going on.

Speaker 11 (52:38):
Yeah, way different. I didn't get PSS all in college.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
So you said you worked on that the out seas
because you knew coming in the league that was gonna
be something you have to deal with.

Speaker 8 (52:44):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean it's an NFL pro.
There's actely just like me out there, you know what
I'm saying. So I knew there was definitely gonna come
down and press uh says one thing I definitely did
work in all season is.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
At paid off right there when Schador makes a throw
like that to you, and obviously saw the reactions from
like Miles and guys on the side headline, But how
does that help open this offense up when you guys
can now put on tape all right, Yeah, we're gonna
go over the top of you if you come and
try to do that again.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (53:08):
I think it helps extremely every level I played at,
the deep game and the deep pass has always been
a part of offense, and it always helped offense.

Speaker 11 (53:15):
It helps and run.

Speaker 8 (53:15):
It helps everyone in the field because you're not just
able to, you know, condense one sided offense.

Speaker 11 (53:20):
So it's definitely gonna help tremendously.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
How have you kind of stayed patient because there was
a time here where you were not getting the ball
and then he had a little bit of an injury.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
You've come back from that.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
How did you maintain kind of your positivity so that
when the moment did come, you rose to the moment
and hit it.

Speaker 11 (53:34):
Yeah, I gotta take back credits.

Speaker 8 (53:39):
I got a short little story when I was at Alabama.
My mottel was, I don't care when I play, I
just know when I get in I'm be ready. So
that's always my model. Whenever you know my play is
called not smile, I don't care if it's a it
might be a tailtale, but I get happy, so you
gotta go. You might know when the ball is coming
if I smile.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
To my home. We won't let anybody.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
The Niners are not a out to listen to this.
You could use that to your advantage. You just go
out there and smile, and you know, as a decode
when you're running a clear out route because you know
you can neverrun that deep clear out and then you
get Jerry on the big over all of a sudden,
there's a lot of space there. How's it been working
with Tommy now that he's calling the plays. You obviously
known him from your time at Alabama. How has kind
of that relationship been and how have you seen kind

(54:19):
of this offense of alve a little bit.

Speaker 11 (54:21):
Yeah, I think it's a good thing. Tom is oc.

Speaker 8 (54:24):
Like I said, we had that previous relationship when I
was in the collegiate level. So yeah, he does my skill,
said know what I can do. He's seen that play
before before most people were seen.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
It on Sunday.

Speaker 8 (54:33):
He's seen that play a couple of times and a
hundred times in practice, so he's seen, Like I said,
he knows the moskill said, and I'm just happy he's osi.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Was it getting frustrating at all to be to know?

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Like, all right, when you're in practice every week, it's
like boom boom, boom boom, you're catching all his deepalls,
but then in the game it just had not come.
Whether you get behind the defense and the ball's not thrown,
protection breaks down, balls not quite gets there deep enough.
To you, was that kind of tough because you know
they want it. You know, we've been working at it
every week and it's there. You know, we just haven't
been able to connect on it.

Speaker 11 (55:01):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 8 (55:02):
It definitely gets frustrating, especially like you said, when you're
open downfield, you're getting behind the defense and the ball
is to come. But like I said, it makes moments
like this way more sweeter.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
What's it been like working with Shador because you did,
it's not like you guys had this whole off season.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
To work together.

Speaker 11 (55:15):
Yeah, it's been. It's been great so far.

Speaker 8 (55:17):
I mean, he's another guy way for his time, and
he came in and he showed up that's that shows
a great player whenever you're able to come into a
pressure situation and you're able to evolve your gameplay. So
I'll give kudos to him as well. It was an
amazing pass. I give him more credit is it as

(55:38):
a receiver.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
And I think we even saw some of the routes
in this game, not to you, but where in the
past maybe guys thought the ball was not going to
come on that particular route, so they didn't maybe run
that route.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
The way that they would have.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
You know, with Schador, it feels like on the field,
you better be ready, right, Is that some of you
guys have kind of talked about And and I'm sure
as a receiver that's exciting because even if maybe I'm
not the primary, but if I get deep and I
get free, the ball is gonna come in. Even if
I'm not, it'll give me a shot, you know, one
on one to make a play.

Speaker 8 (56:04):
Yeah, it's definitely, you know, a good thing for a receiver.
You know, it makes you want to, uh, you know,
run every round one hundred percent when you got a
quarterback like that that can throw anything. So it, like
I said, it's it's definitely a beneficial to the defense.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
What have you seen getting ready for for the forty
nine ers? Here a team obviously, it's had a lot
of success so far the season eight and four. They're
one of the better teams, one of the better coach teams.
Roped Robert Slid Their DC does a heck of a job.
What have you kind of seen when you put their
tape on and and how this matchup is going to be.

Speaker 8 (56:32):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, you know, it's the NFL.
Everyone has good players. At end of the day, It's
just gonna come down to us, you know, handle into
a little things right. As long as we handle little
things right, I think it we'll get to win. And
I feel like that every single week no matter who
we play, as long as you do a little things right,
you'll win the game.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
If it is snowing, as it's saying that it might be,
Will this be your first snow game?

Speaker 11 (56:56):
Hundred percent will be my first snow game.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 11 (57:00):
Honestly, I'm excited for it.

Speaker 8 (57:02):
Judy Is He's gave me a couple of experiences he's
had in the snow and he says is to is
one of the more funner games he said he's had,
so I'm electrified for the game.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
There's gotta be some advantace so you know where you're
going and they're more reacting. So if the footing is
a little bit off, yeah, it would benefit you.

Speaker 11 (57:17):
I would think, yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
But you do like playing in a dome, I would imagine.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
Yeah, yeah, that was pretty well.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
In a few years and a few years, we'll have
one of those here, yes, sir, all right, Isaiah, congrats
on the big one and hopefully this kind of gets
it going. They say, this seems kind of coming bunches,
so hopefully we really get you going down the field.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
And he finished this season strong.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Yes, I appreciate it, Thank you, good luck, Thank you man.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
How likable is that guy? He's easy to root.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
For it he is, and he's been open a lot,
but it's been frustrating for him, you know, And I
don't blame him because he can only do you know
what he can do? WHOA a little bit of news
right here? What do we got a little bit of news?
Go ahead, Adam Schefter reporting, Let me click on it.
Make sure it's yeah. It is the four time Pro

(58:00):
bull center Frank ragnow coming out of retirement and returning
to the Lions for their playoff run.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Today was the deadline.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
If a player is on a club's reserve retire list,
he must be reinstated prior to that club's Week thirteen game.
Detroit plays Thursday. Deadline today rag now is back. And
by the way, I saw two articles from somewhat reputable people.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
I know where you're going because I think I saw
him about Aaron Donald.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
I know.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
I saw it too. I know, Siciliana don't want to
hear it, but I heard it. I read it from
two people, and it wasn't like fake nonsense. It was like,
could he be intrigued by this? No, I don't know
if what that. I don't know what it would be
like for him because he is retired, retired, right Like,
is there a statute of limitations on that?

Speaker 4 (58:43):
To me, I guess he would be afraid they would
retain his rights.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
I saw it twice this week, same yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
Like, and he was at the game, animated and obviously
he is in absurd shape.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Yeah yeah, I mean, can you imagine dropping him in
the middle of that defense as good as they are
right now? Yes, Yeah, that's a great job out of them,
like they get they did all that they did to
go win the Super Bowl and they won it. Then
they hit on their picks without even having picks. We'ren't
even having them, and they hit right back like the
Nicua they hit on Nicula fifth round. Yeah, crazy and

(59:21):
Fisk and Davante has been incredible. Yeah, and it's an
easy cell. Who doesn't want to play in that system
with Stafford and.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Yeah, he's basically their goal line back.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Yeah. I mean they throw that fade to him every
time and he catches it every time. Yeah, and Stafford
puts it right on the screws.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
Yeah.

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Speaker 5 (59:50):
I think.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
You need to hit chunk plays. You need to take
care of the football. I mean that is critical. Uh.
And and I want to see this run game yet going,
especially if the weather a little inclement. I want to
see this run game get going against this defense they've
been their top ten run defense, They've not been as
good of a pass defense, which we mentioned, but I
think it's the same thing. Get the run game going,
hit some chunk plays, and protect the football. And if

(01:00:12):
you do that, I think everyone they do not rush
the passer like they don't rush the passer. Miles Garrett
has as many sacks in the last four games as
they have on the season.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
On the other side, the matchup, the Browns have to
win on defense Sunday to win in the final, Tallly
is what.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
You've got to contain Christian McCaffrey. And you've got to
turn brock Perty into a pure drop back quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
You have got to turn him into a drop back quarterback.
If you can do that, you've got a chance.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
There you go.

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otherwise cloudy and windy. It's on the lake. It could
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like the fact that you could walk about a half
mile into Lake Erie.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Drop almost six feet.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Yeah, it's like it's like a mile out there.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
All of those they sent, all the freighters, the iron
ore boats, everything's out in the middle of the lake
right now, staging out there. They dropped anchor and they're
just going to ride out the storm out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
There, just hanging it out. And there's flood on the
other side, you know, in near Buffalo and stuff, so
be careful.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
Yeah, I mean they were saying they were forecasting something
that could be like fourteen foot waves. That's nuts. I
used to love that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
That was on a six to twelve foot wave. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
Are getting close. And let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
This is most leagues now the fantasy playoffs start in
week fifteen. So this is it. This is the end
of the rope. It's this week and next week something
you have to plan for that. I don't remember ever
having this happen, And you should plan ahead. In week fourteen,
the Niners, Giants, Panthers, and Patriots are all on buys.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
What so plan.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Ahead if you're a team that you know, For example,
I know them is and I don't know if he's
listening or not, but he has two quarterbacks are Drake
May and Brock Purty. Oh no, so he's not gonna
have a quarterback. He also has Ted McMillan, so his
team's gonna be end they play us, which is great,
but that's something you've got to plan for now.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
So that's just something to think about.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
But as we get here into week thirteen, because I
think because this year it falls on Thanksgiving, there are
no buys this week, so they need it. They just
the buye should end to you have enough games for
the windows. Just do like eight teams over four only
their buys are only four weeks, eight teams per week
to be fine. It's the absolutely and you could do
it even like two divisions at a time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
It's totally like, it's fine. This isn't hard, not hard,
all right. Here we go quarterbacks this week. At this point,
you go with what you've got, right, this has to
be a Lamar Jackson bounce back game. You stick with him.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
And if you've got Joe burn been waiting and you
don't have a significantly better option, I think you play
him this week as well. But that's it's the guys
and the one guy that's kind of the you know,
not a household name quarterback type that's been a really
good fantasy quarterbacks. Jakobe Brissett. I mean he has just
produced every single week he's been out there. Running backs.
It's again the guys that you know. Josh Jacobs is back.

(01:04:46):
We found out today he will play against the lines.
I think you can start him. Etm's been playing well.
Chase Brown's coming on really strong, which is nice to
see for him. Rico Dowdell posting some things in Carolinecea
and basically a I didn't get the ball enough. You
need the ball more. We'll see how that plays out.
I think that Harvey in Denver is a good start
this week against Washington. Vidala Sassoon is still a good

(01:05:07):
start this week as long as o'marion is not back,
and then Kareem Hunt's been playing very well against Dallas.
It's in the end zone. Here's one on your waiver wire.
If you need a running back, probably he's been picked up.
But if your league runs waivers tonight, Devin Neil is
somebody you can look at. With Alvin Kamara out in
New Orleans wide receivers again, I think Yoshivash is a

(01:05:28):
good little kind of pickup and play if you're looking
for a wide receiver this week, just because it's against
Baltimore and we know Higgins is out, so he'll be
in the Burrow's back and Burrow is back. Your darn right,
he's back, so he's He's kind of one of those
guys that I would look at. There's an extra one
defensive matchups and tight ends tight ends you at this
point you kind of know what's going on defensive matchups

(01:05:48):
this week. I like the Chargers is a pickup and
play against Las Vegas. I like the Rams against Carolina,
Denver against Washington, those are and Seahawks against minnesot Those
are probably the big ones this week. Jags they think
you get a lot of takeaways and the Jags this
week they play another one. Jags play Tennessee, Falcons play

(01:06:09):
the Jets.

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Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
Yeah, baby, where you finally crossed the fifty threshold for
the season combined fifty two games over five hundred. We
are right now, bo big bounce back. Last week nine
and five middling seven and seven for me.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
There.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Nonetheless, here we go week number thirteen.

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
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Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
Fuckle up?

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
We don't need to do the Monday night game today, right? No,
we're gonna think are we gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Have a victory Monday?

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
My guess is no Hoffson Studio with us all of Monday?

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Oh that's no baby, the hustra damis. That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
Welcome to Thanksgiving twenty twenty five. We kick things off. Packers,
Leons from Detroit City, Burd Cahart, Brady Andrews, Rinaldi, the
pageantry of Thanksgiving. Nathan Zigura lead us off right now.
The Lions on the outside looking in on the playoffs.

(01:08:17):
I like the Packers. I've liked the Packers all year long.
Lions at home good, They're gonna be a good team.
I think the Lions actually do win this game, but
I think maybe they win it late on a field
goal thirty one to thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Boy, just slight same bit different. This is actually two
and a half this morning, so it's changed a little bit.
I like that a little bit more. You like that
a little bit less?

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Ragno back. I know he's not playing this week, but
a little bit of juice with that. Are they gonna
wear the berries? I've heard they're gonna wear the Berry
uniforms tomorrow. You like that? I do like the berries.
I like the Berrys. Give me the Leos to handle
some business in this one. I think it's gonna be
a really good game. Let's go leeive Packers thirty one.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
To the middle game of the Afternoon Nance Romo Wolfson CBS.
Kansas City survives last week? Can they keep on surviving?
Six and five? They are in big d to take
on the Cowboys. Cowboys have won two in a row.
More of a must win game for Dallas than Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Here, Bo Bishop, Yeah, I just think Jerry had his
big moment. He had a twenty one point comeback. Yeah.
On Sunday, Landman debuted with a big number. He should
have won an Emmy for land Man. I just don't
think he's gonna have too many nights things in a week,
and it just sets up for Mahomes playing well on Thursday.
Three to three hundred yards. Last week, they're kind of clunky.

(01:09:47):
I think they're less clunky. I think they win. I
think it's a good game, but I think they win
this one. Twenty eight, twenty four. I think this actually
could be a beating. I think they're going to get
up and I think they're going to keep rolling here.

Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
I like this one.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
Chiefs Big thirty five Boys fourteen.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
The Nightcap on Thanksgiving, Burrow is back the Bengals on
the road in Retbird Territory in Baltimore crab cakes, probably
in the press box for a big night game like that.
Simon's probably gonna build the Bengals for it. It'll be great.
Ravens the Bengals. Nathan Zegir, Mike Brown, Hey, who's this?

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Who's Simon? Why is he charging me?

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
Simon Jellen? Who's this? Gellen guy? Charge like Magellan for cab.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
I don't pay for the media's food except once a
year with turtle soup.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
But he won't af You won't even let them know
he's billing them till they're in Valet about to get
into their cars.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
You got to come back.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
That now defunct restaurant, like going, oh no, they forgot
to pay. No, dude, the having to come out and
like free on a co sation with us about it?

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
But what about it's just we won a free dinner.
And then Simon was like, oh yeah no, and it
was not the portion we paid for was not cheap.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
U no, no, no, no, no, no, it's like three
of us, No, it was one hundred and fifty each. Yeah,
for a free dinner. For a free dinner, right, yeah, yeah,
that we had to eat with him yeah, which I
would never do.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
He's got a great beer, even if you paid me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
I do like it's a gal. I like him in
doses six seconds in and out. That's all. I don't
need a whole evening. The whole evening. Well, not that
ends that way.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
No, girl, I'm going to be so mad at myself
because I'm going to do it just seems so obvious,
and there's no reason to do the things that seem
so obvious, except in this case, I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Just feel like it has to be.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
So I'm gonna take the Bengal side of this thirty
five thirty one, but this who wouldn't do that? Which
makes me think like it's dumb?

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Yeah, I know it. I'm doing the same. I think
the Burrow bump is there, and I think and the
Ravens haven't been lights out, so I know which is this.
I know I think the Ravens do win the game,
but I think it's close. We'll go Ravens twenty seven,
Bengals twenty one.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
To Black Friday, we go Are you a pretender? Or
are you a contender? This game might summarize that to
a te Chicago on the road at eight and three
in the City of Brotherly Love. Philadelphia eight and three,
bo Bishop.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
The Chicago Bears are eight and three, And this is
what it is on a team that just had a
twenty one nothing lead and gave it all up. That's
dysfunctional fighting. Somebody knows something. Philly by a billion Satan,

(01:12:51):
that's what we should be doing on the Baltimore one.
But one of those is going to go that way,
and it will probably be the opposite. But one of
them is going to go the way and the other
one's going to go. One of those games will be
a beating, I think so.

Speaker 9 (01:13:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
Next, the Titans continue their march to the number one pick.
We go to the Sunday one o'clock slate Spiro Archiletta
Adide Titans hosting the All of a sudden very good,
maybe not frisky Jacksonville Jaguars at seven and four. Nathan's Girl.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
So this is I feel like this is line reflects
that maybe people didn't really watch the Seattle game. And
I know that the Tennessee was on the right side
of that line, but Seattle just stopped trying. Yep, they
could have beaten them. They could have scored sixty. I
think the Jags are very much in there. They have
a lot to play for, and they're gonna keep the
I think the foot the pedal to the metal as

(01:13:43):
it were.

Speaker 5 (01:13:44):
Jag seven Titans zero.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
I think this is gonna mirror their game against Houston
from a couple of weeks back when Houston went in
there and won sixteen to thirteen. I think it's gonna
mirror that. So I like Jacksonville to win. Unfortunately for US,
I mean, what the hell, I'll go tight either way.
I'm the same. I'm gonna go Titans to win. Outright,
Titan went, they gotta win. They get it out right beautiful.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
Next up on Sunday at one o'clock, another pretender or
contender game. The Houston Texans are six and five, winners
of three in r row. Texans on the road in Indy.
I and Eagle, JJ Watt, Evan Washburn, Bo Bishop.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
I mean, it's really remarkable Houston's won four out of five,
three in a row without C. J. Stroud. Possibility he's
gonna play this week. I think I saw something like
that earlier today. We'll see. This is really early in
the week to be yes sort hanging out a little bit.
I'm just gonna go gut here. There was a time,
and I still think they're pretty close that, if not
where the Colts had the largest margin of victory in

(01:14:45):
the league, and I think they still do. I think
they get one at home. I think they get back
on track a little bit. I like the Colts winning
this one. Comfortable, comfortable, comfortable twenty seven Texans seventeen.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Texans d is too good, too good Colts.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Yes, they take care of business at home, but it's
gonna be buy a field goal twenty four twenty one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
By the way, Colt's number two in that differential. Now
god Ran Ramants, Yeah, Ramitts.

Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
Fast up next to teams that don't want to win,
probably buying for a tie, if at all possible. New
Orleans on the road in South Beach. The Saints are
two and nine, the Dolphins are four and seven. This
one is on Fox, Nathan.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
I like the way the Dolphins have been playing lately.
The New Orleans was dreadful against Atlanta. They were, and
if I recall correctly, Miami trounced Atlanta in Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
I like the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Comfortable, comfortable, comfortable here.

Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
They're right now, they're on a down there South Beach
having the time of their lives. The sun's gonna be out.
It's gonna send me a great time for them. Dolphins
sixty seven Saints say ah shucks minus two.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Samese. Samese's give me the Dolphins.

Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
In a game that the people in their own markets
won't want to watch. The Atlanta Falcons gutless on the
road in Jersey to take on the New York Football Jets.
Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, Megan O Levy. We appreciate you
going overseas for all the bad football. Welcome back. Here's
some more bad football for you. Bo bishit like Daard Madrid.

Speaker 9 (01:16:24):
This.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Yeah, I think I think here's the crazy thing with Atlanta.
The Bucks play the Cardinals with maybe not Baker. We'll
see very losable game for them.

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
I can tell you. Baker Mayfield listed as a non
participant in today's practice. Yeah he had, Hey, Bucky Irving
actually practice he.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Had an availability I think yesterday where he talked about
like how he has to think about the big picture
and all these things. So there's that. So if they
that's a very winnable game for the Cardinals. And then
the other one in that division is Carolina. They got
the Rams. If the Falcons win, they're going to be
a game out of the division. And I think they
do win in New York. I think they take care
of business and win with Kirk Cousins. No London again

(01:17:08):
in this game for them, but I think they do
just enough. I love the fact that the score is
what the score is. I like them winning sixteen thirteen same.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
And I would tell you this is the perfect opportunity
for the Falcons to be gutless and choke on this.
No no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
That divisions terrible. They are terrible, horrid.

Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
Next Arizona, the team we were just talking about on
the road. Cardinals are three and eight struggling, but the
team they're playing struggling just as bad. Tampa Bay's lost
three in a row. They're six and five Buccaneers Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Nathan, did we have YouTube for that, Joe Namath, Susie Culber,
that you just did? That's the name of I could
care less if the team is struggling. Was that live?
Was that when we had YouTube?

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
Lock?

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
I remember watching it, but was YouTube Pulley operation?

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
I remember seeing like it was Twitter and all that
where it was immediate. No, it was immediately, Cheryl.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
But I don't know if like Twitter was as big
then Yeah, let's see what I'll tell you the year
when your recollection.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
I would say it would be like I would say
Rex Ryan was there, and I would say it would
been like.

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
Mid eight, two thousand and three.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Oh my gosh, oh three. So YouTube probably wasn't. I
want to kiss you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
The infant moment captured on Sunday Night footballs later described
by name as a blessing in disguise because the public embarrassment.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
Let would confront his and overcome his alcoholism.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Yeah, and there was no YouTube in three. No, let's
say what, no social media and that didn't come until
later in the decade. Yeah, no, no, So that was
one where like all of us watched it live and
then there was like in those days, there was like
hot clicks in the big lead, like they would put
up the videos. That's kind of the only way you
saw it was that way.

Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
I don't even remember what the player was. Yeah, I
would have thought more like seven o nine. I want
somewhere in there.

Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
Late. Yes, the Carolina Panthers march towards bo Bishop's wallet continues,
the Panthers playing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
I got the Bucks, give a.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
Oh thank you for set to McBride. Bucks win by
set by thirty twenty seven, twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Same same, Yeah got McBride.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
Yep, all right. Now we move on ram It playing
in Charlotte taking on Carolina. The Rams maybe the best
team in the National Football League. A big test on
the road though, Bo Bishop.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Yeah, this gimmick worked last time. I'm not going to
do they put you through all the gimmick. I just
think that the Rams are a machine right now, and
I think they bury them thirty one to fourteen. The
Rams are machine.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
That's just a lot. It's a lot on the road,
a home dog. They could be up fourteen in the fourth.
Cour not care at all. They know that they've got
the game over. I think Caroline is going to be
able to be close enough. Rams thirty four, Panthers twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
That would do it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
To the four o'clock slate, we go the Minnesota Vikings
not playing so well.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Is brosmer starting? This number makes me think bros Murr
has been announced that he's starting.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
It might be thirteen and a half with McCarthy, It
might be this. He did get all the first team
reps McCarthy Seattle by a billion. I don't care this,
brose they have no chance.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
The only thing that bothers me about Seattle is they
are notorious off the pedal team, like they had the
one game where Darnold was what eleven for eleven in
the first half for like one hundred and eighty yards
and three touchdown. Then they didn't do anything after. But
I don't care. I think they need to score. I
think they need to score twelve points to cover this line.
So Seattle Rammitt massive beating same. Can you imagine Justin

(01:20:55):
Jefferson so mad? No, he is man, he's very unhappy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Like Jackson Smith and jigbik is putting up like an
all time season with Donald, with Donald, and they have nobody.
They don't have Addison, like he's on an island, like
they don't have He doesn't have Addison as a compliment,
like it's him stand He's got over forty percent of
their receiving yards.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
And I think for Donald this has to be I
think he's gonna say, listen, Clint, let's yeah, let's keep
going here, let's keep let's there's a little.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Personal for me Yeah, Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
That's an incredible name. Game of the week in the
four o'clock window. Buffalo on the road in the city
that smells like hot Dog Water Squealers hosting the Bills
Nance Romo Wolfson double duty this weekend. Bo Bishop. It's

(01:21:49):
a big game for Buffalo, it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Big game for Pittsburgh. Yes, because they're gonna They're gonna
see on Thursday night that Baltimore improves to seven and five.
Rogers seems like he's gonna He wanted to play last week.
It seems like he's gonna go. He was talking about
callousing and all these things today, so you know, it
feels like he's going to go. Look, they can play
all the renegade they want, it's not gonna be enough

(01:22:13):
for them to beat Buffalo at home. I think Buffalo
wins this game thirty one to twenty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
Mm mmmmmmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Do you now?

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
I do?

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
All right, So let's look at the Bills season. When
they have They've lost back to back games once, which
was the Patriots and Falcons in weeks five and six.
They came off of that they won beat the Panthers
by thirty one. Then they lose to the Dolphins. Next week,
they beat the Bucks by twelve, lose to the Texans.

(01:22:50):
I think they haven I just don't think the Steelers
are good. Maybe I'm just biased.

Speaker 9 (01:22:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:22:53):
I think the Bills win this one.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Comfortable comfortable, comfortable, comfortable, comfortable, comfortable, comfortable, thirty negative four.

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
The final game in the four o'clock window. On Sunday,
we go to so far Los Angeles, the Chargers hosting
the god awful Las Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Nathan, what's the line that would make you even contemplate
Las Vegas fourteen and a half?

Speaker 5 (01:23:20):
Yeah, same Chargers.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
What is their path? You guys are just out there,
like how do they They don't. I don't know what
that looks like the future, Like what do you?

Speaker 5 (01:23:30):
You have a couple of pieces, but what direction?

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
It just gave Geno that contract. You just fire the coordinator,
you paid all the money, your head coach in your
head coaches in his seventies, like he clearly thought he
was coming there to try and win. Now they drafted
a running back in the first round. Where the feeling
is you were trying to and I like Genty. I
think he's a nice player, a really good player, but
like they have a million issues million and I don't
even know like it. I don't even know if they

(01:23:55):
can move Gino or they're like going to play him
for two more years? Like what is that even look like?
But no, I think it's the number would have to
be two touchdowns plus I just don't see how. I mean,
I watch I thought, if, like if Miles plays the
last series, I think we would have had two more
sacks against them. There was a swinging door. Now they

(01:24:16):
don't have our defense, the Chargers don't, but still, yeah,
Chargers by a billion.

Speaker 5 (01:24:22):
Final one Sunday night foosball. Good news. We'll watch fifty
quality games before we get to this one, so we
don't have to really watch this. Denver winners of eight
in a row. They are nine and two, on the
road in Washington to do battle with the Commanders. Boh Bishop, I.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Think Jayden's playing in this? Is he?

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
I think? So?

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
I mean it's early.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
The last I had just heard was not on yesterday's
Good Morning Football. They thought he needed one more one
more week. But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
I mean, that's that's the the with doing this now. Yeah,
takes that tough. So I'm gonna let's just do it
this way. If he plays, I think they stay in it,
and I think they make it first getting Denver wins
a close game. But Denver's offense isn't scary. Their defense
is really good, so they don't really housing anybody anyway.

(01:25:18):
I like Denver winning kind of a slugfest. Seventeen thirteen.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
See if we have any updated news here for you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
He will resume practicing week thirteen, but he's not expected
to return to the starting line up in time for
Sunday's matchup against the Broncos.

Speaker 5 (01:25:34):
Adam Schefter of ESPN reports, all right, so I'll go.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
I'll take the Broncos over the Mariota's comfortable, comfortable, comfortable,
seven nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:25:47):
No, I'll do it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
So there's three that win a point or a half
point even from morning to afternoon, and that's one of them.
That one was seven and a half this morning and
now six and a half. Cart the Chiefs one was
three now now it's three and a half. And the
Lions was two and a half now it's three.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
John Kind, by the way, Dan Quinn on Jane Daniels,
we would not put him out there if he was
not able to fully express who he is as a player.
Until that point, they'll just keep working toward his return.
He has more steps to go still not clear for
contact and take some reps.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
I like that line from Burrow, Like I don't know
if you guys saw his press conference yesterday when he's like,
I'm a football player, I'm healthy, I'm gonna play. Like
because someone's like, well, Joe, did you think about just
shutting it down? Like it's not doing you guys any
good to win these games, He's like, I'm a football player,
I'm gonna play. Yeah, I want to play exactly, Like
what are you kidding? Like they're compensating me to play.

Speaker 5 (01:26:38):
It's my job.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
I'll go handle my business. So much more to come,
including our score, the Buckeye score, the apple pie bourbon recipe.
It's all coming up next. Cleveland runs daily eight fifty
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Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
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Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
All right, this is this is the first Friday. Get
your pens and paper ready. This is the gift that
gives for a month. I like using Woodford for this.
I like the clear bottle. I like the way that
it marinates. I like the way it looks on the shelf.
So take a bottle of Woodford or Bourbon of your choice.

(01:27:32):
You could use Rye whatever you want, but I think
Bourbon's the best, and I think the mashpill on Woodford
is really good for this. So take that pour out
three fingers and put it in a glass. Take a
Granny Smith apple cord peeled, sliced thin as you can,
razor thin, razor thin.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Put those babies in. Mister, have you ever thought about
a honey crisp? I like, that's our favorite apples.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Well, we're getting this sweet from the vanilla, so I
like the tartart of the Granny Smith with it, but
worth the considerations. Put the Granny Smith apple in. Do
it one cinnamon stick with the old recipe called for two.
You and I have talked, and i've i've I think
that's right, especially as you wait a month. I think

(01:28:16):
it starts to get really cinnamony if you if you
do that. So I go one cinnamon stick, and then
I go two Madagascar vanilla beans. I take the tip
of your knife and just slice down the middle of
those babies. They're kind of funky looking things. But so
when you see and they're expensive, so but when you
see them, just kind of go right down the middle.
Get those things to open up, put those in, put

(01:28:36):
the cork back in, and then enjoy the holiday week,
the Christmas holiday.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
And I will say, if you are not inclined or there,
you find it tough to find the actual Madagascar vanilla bean.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
They're tough.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
A little a small one of.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
The mattagass garvanilla, extract the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Yeah, that'll go too. Yeah, you could even any sort
of vanilla. Do not open No, I leave it in.
I leave it in there. I open it. It does
it's a great gift. I do it as favors and stuff.
And we have some traditions that we do it and
then we pop it for you know, Christmas Eve, yep,
a couple days before Christmas, and then enjoy it that

(01:29:14):
week between Christmas and New Year's. It's a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:29:18):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
We ready, we got some scores.

Speaker 5 (01:29:22):
We have scores. We go on Saturday to the game
in the land up north. It's Ohio State it's that
other team. Bishop.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
I mean, look the twenty and a half point favorites
last year in this game and lost thirteen to ten.
That was a gross It's ridiculous, Like, how does that?
It just doesn't even make sense, So no sense. I
do like the way they've approached this week, and I
think their defense is built for this game. There's an
extra there's an extra added element to this. And Matt
Patricia going back to the Detroit area. Remember he is

(01:30:00):
by the Lions, and I think he's going to be
excited to go back up there. And I think what
they've done over the last really probably two months is
nothing but vanilla everywhere.

Speaker 7 (01:30:10):
Four.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
I think is definitely gonna play. I think there's a
decent chance seventeen plays and I think they will use
them both in the red zone. I think their defense
is going to be on point. I think the Buckeyees
handle business. I think they win relatively comfortable in this one.
I'm gonna go Buckeyes twenty eight Michigan seven.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
I was gonna say twenty eight to twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
To Sunday at Huntington bank Field, Brown's Shador Sanders first
home start. Brown's hosting the Niners.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
Zagora, I've already said it, twenty eight seven Browns, let's go.
Dad's not gonna be happy. He's not even coming. He's
so sure that the Browns are gonna win. He is
not even making a trilling, not making the trick.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
I think we take care of business too. I think
the defense is going to be a real problem, and
I think the slop's gonna help. So I think I
think we take care. It's gonna be a fun one
twenty one down on the lake. So there you go,
Happy Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving, thankful for all of you who listen.
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