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As we wrap up 2024 and head into a new year, there are plenty of questions regarding more changes from new coaches to even a new running back?

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
This these Cowboys storyline with Nick Eatman.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
What is up? Welcome to Cowboys storyline, the final storyline
of twenty twenty four. It is Tuesday, December thirty first,
Happy New Year to everyone. Hope everyone is safe. Tonight
has us good times, can stay awake. Whatever you gotta
do U should be, should be fun to roll into
the new year always is. Well, let's wrap this up

(00:46):
the right way, have another great show, and let's talk
about Cowboys, Commanders, Cowboys, Eagles. If you want to go back,
I don't think he would have us close the book
on that one. It was closed in the third quarter
for the most part. And anything you want moving forward.
I know this is the time of year. Mike McCarthy
said it yesterday. He said, we're trying to finish the race.

(01:06):
He said, I'll talk about contract stuff, coaching stuff when
it's time to talk about it. He said, I'll stick
to what I've done all year and try to finish
the race. Some of the coordinators had some interesting things
to say. Uh if if you caught those interviews, Mike
Zimmer included there. But it's gonna be this is that time.
I mean, the season will be over here before you

(01:27):
know it. But it just rolls right into all these
new decisions the Cowboys have to make, and so it's
gonna make for without a doubt, it's gonna make for
an interesting offseason, all right. Eight A A eight five
five two two ninety seven is the number to call.
Let's get right to the callers here. Robbie Cocobach, Florida, Robbie, your.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
First Happy New Year's nixt night be first.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
You too, How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm great and happy to hear you and your family
and all the staff there, Christie or especially he's the
artist work command.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
There, christ no doubt, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yeah, sure, I hope.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I hope we beat the heck out of the redskin
of the Commander.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Excuse me?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (02:05):
And what's your favorite New Year's memory?

Speaker 5 (02:07):
I'll leave the rest off show to.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Listen, Okay, man, I'm trying to think. I will say this,
and there's been a I'm sure a lot. There's a
lot of things you don't remember obviously from the New
Year's but I'm trying to think from a Cowboys standpoint
when we played games like on New Year's I know

(02:30):
one time we did play on January the first in
New York. I can't remember what year I should know.
This might have been twenty eighteen, but it felt like
it was. It was a little bit before that. And
I remember we didn't have anywhere to go, and we
were in the hospitality room the night before. Nothing was

(02:51):
really open, and we found some pizza place and I
was with the guy that works for ESPN, Todd Archer.
We went to some pizza place in New Jersey and
and if you've ever seen the movie Rounders with Matt
Damon where they kind of goes into like an underground
place to go play poker, that's basically where we where
we ended up. I didn't think I was gonna make

(03:12):
it that night, Like, I mean, we were like some
pizza joint and it was like, oh, it's open, let's
go there. Here's the address. And then he went down
the steps and knocked on the door and it was eleven,
by the way, eleven, Okay, it was a while. Yeah,
that's oh, that was the That was the game they
played for the for the finals, I mean, to win
the NFC East and did not win, but we were
kind of stuck there, like, oh the guys. Todd was like, yeah,

(03:35):
scoo pizza. You know, I've heard of this place and
I swear it was. I was. It was like top
five like terrifying moments because I'm like this, this just
doesn't seem right, Like I hope this pizza better be
damn good, because like somebody's gonna like whack my knees
is to get it. But didn't happen. And I think
the pizza was good. It wasn't as memorable as the

(03:55):
moment there. Maybe I exaggerated a little. Who knows. All right,
thanks for the call, Robbie. Let's go Gary, New Mexico. Gary,
what's up?

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Hey? Happy New Year guys, you too.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
How are you doing?

Speaker 5 (04:06):
I'm doing good man. Hey. The Cowboys actually won an
NFC championship game on New Year's Day in nineteen seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
So wow, going back, how much things have changed an
NFC championship game on New Year's Day. Now it's like
we're not even through the regular season.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
But oh no, it's crazy. It's crazy. So I'm reading
your website here it says take a few trips down
memory Lane as a as an older Cowboy fan, I
have moved to Memory. I live on Memory Lane one
twenty eight. Memory Lane is my addressment. Okay, so I
got I got a trivia I'm going to get you
on this week's trivial question.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
No, I'm ready for the challenge.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
I've got one. I'm going to get in. I'm want
to give you a fair shot. We're going to go
back to your wheelhouse nineteen eighty three. You're really good
at games. So Washington at Dallas Week fifteen, nineteen eighty three.
This was probably the most hyped game of my childhood,
and by comparison, it's very similar to what we're about
to see with Minnesota and Detroit. It was for all
the marbles, Division Championship, home field, Evans, all that stuff.

(05:05):
So this was the No Danny No Game. Do you
remember the game?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yes, the No Danny No go.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Okay, here's the trivia question and I'm gonna set it
up for you. It's the third quarter of the game.
It's fourteen to ten Washington Leeds. Cowboys have all the momentum.
Though they're driving the ball, they kind of stalled out.
It's fourth and one at midfield, Landry lines up to
go for it, but all he wants to do is
draw him off sides. Right, Danny White thinks he sees
something in the defense. At the last second, he changes

(05:33):
it to a live play. The play gets stuffed Landry
the sideline catches. The cameras catch Landry yelling no Danny
nor on the sideline. The question is this, who did
Danny White give the ball to on that play?

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Man? Oh, I don't think it was Dorset.

Speaker 7 (05:50):
I'm gonna says, Oh Man, you got it. Yeah, yes, yeah,
I knew would have got it. No, he would have.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
If you remember the player. Man, that play was blown up.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
From the beginning, Washington won that game something.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Yeah that that that play, that play, not only that
play changed their whole season. Yeah, that's completely it was.
Oh it was horrible. But man, that is next level stuff.
I can't believe you got that one.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
There's three running backs to get and I don't think
it's Dorset, who was my favorite player. Maybe new House
got it, but I mean, you know it was it
was I mean, I know the running back, so I
mean that that that's a good one. But but I
mean I had process of elimination there, so Uh.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Yeah, Okay, I gave you a chance, all right, So
let's get back to this year's team.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Let's go all right.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
And I'm trying. This is my relentless effort to stay
positive with this year's team.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
But uh goods.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
I'm really impressed with the running game. I mean, as
bad as they look Sunday, they still ran the ball
well and they did that against the top ten run defense.
And I think when we look back on this season,
there's plenty of blame to go around, but I think
one of the unfortunate things is that the offensive line
finally coming together after Dak Prescott got hurt. They've gotten

(07:11):
better over the last several weeks. And I think when
we look back on it, and I've heard McCarthy say
this a couple of times, if Tuma Adoga had not
gotten injured in training camp, he would have been your
starting left tackle. I think that's kind of the miss
stories of this season, because since he's gotten healthy and
came back, they've been a little bit more solid on
that left side. I think Zach Martin was a shell

(07:32):
of himself all year. I think he was probably playing
hurt all year. You remember back at the beginning.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
Of the year.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
He was not what he used to be. Just unfortunate,
and now that the offensive line has started to come together,
is just kind of a little bit, you know, too little,
too late, a lot of blame to go around, but
I think that's just an unfortunate thing. But I think
that's something they can build on moving forward. With this
young offensive line, I think they run block better than

(07:58):
they pass block, but I think they're showing some physicality.
I think that's something regardless through the coach is. I
think that's something that they can build on moving forward.
But they've got to do that. They have when Dak
comes back next year, whatever they do coaching wise, they
have got to give him a strong running game. That
has got to be that has got to be paramount.
And I love Rico Dwell and I'm not opposed to

(08:19):
him coming back, but they can't just be complacent in
the running back area in the offseason. That they've got
to try to give him a strong running game and
give him all the help they cancel that he can
be successful. But I like your thoughts on that, and
they'll hang up and listen. Thanks for taking the ball,
all right, thank you.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
There.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, there's no doubt. I wouldn't worry about how much
money this guy makes and how much you know where
as far as Dak goes. He needs a running game.
They all do. They all need a running game. I've
seen last year's team with the Chiefs. They run out
the games Pacheco. You know, as great as Mahomes is,
there's times where you've got to run the football. You've
got to run it when they know you're going to
run it. I'm not one that sits back. Really, I've

(09:00):
seen every game, like you guys have watched every game,
just about every play, I think, And I'm not one
that sits here and says, what were they doing with
the running game? Like if they would have just given
the ball to Rico all year long? They did give
the ball to Rico. I mean he was pretty much
the guy most of the season here. They didn't know

(09:23):
what they were doing. At times they would it would
Zeke would play here, but like, let's be honest. I mean,
Rico has had a good, solid year, but it's never
been super flashy or anything like that. He's had his moments.
He's not extremely special. He's a good, solid back and

(09:44):
and I like him. I like him and I think
he needs a little help too. I think there would
be another running back would be great to have. He'd
be a great complimentary back. He could be the starter
with another young guy or vice versas. Doesn't matter. Those
two runners, you need them both. But he had moments too.
You know, he'll fumble here, he won't hit the hole
like you want him to. He doesn't break it to

(10:05):
that next levels. All the time. I'm just saying he's
a good, solid back. The whole running game was kind
of was was just it was a weird season too,
because you say that about Chuma. Gary just mentioned that
about Tuma getting hurt. The plan all along was for
Tyler Gouyton to be the left tackle. That was the plan,
so Tuma could have been one hundred percent healthy. They

(10:26):
were going to find a way to get the get
their first round pick in there, and he proved as
the season went on he wasn't the best option. And
that's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. I said that in the press
box the other day. Fourth quarter, third I think it
was third or fourth quarter. But there's Tuma out there
and they're rotating left tackles and you would have never
you never would have thought by the last game, last

(10:47):
road game of the season, there's Tuma, you know, still
rotating with Tyler Goeyton. That was never supposed to be
the case. So it's credit to Tchuma for you know,
being pretty good and playing well. But also it wasn't
what they thought. They thought Geyton would definitely take over
by week one, be the guy and just get better
and better and better. And that didn't. That didn't happen.

(11:11):
Doesn't mean that he won't turn the corner here, but
that didn't happen like they thought. All right, let's go
to Dylan Northport.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Florida, say, Nick, Yeah, just a touch on that last
call before I get into my stuff. You know, Rico
is he's just like a not really. He's a jack
of all trades but doesn't excel in anything. He's a
good number two. He can carry the team if he
needs to for a few weeks. If RB one goes down,
he can spell RB one. But he's not the guy
that I want leading the charge every Sunday. Yeah, so

(11:37):
I don't want to say him, but if he's cheap enough,
sure why not?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
And that that'll be interesting to see what what what
his market is. Uh, there, and yeah they have to
you have to re sign him as well. I'm sure
he'll get the chance to test it. But you know,
the Cowboys are going to have to change their mindset
on the running back position, in my opinion, not just
well we got Rico, we'll sign him and we'll bring

(12:01):
back Zeke and maybe Deuce and we'll make it work. Now, No,
you got to have somebody a little bit special because
the special running back. This was the year of that
the special running back showed how special they are and
how much they could really help.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
So yeah, I joined Travis's space on Twitter last night.
We talked about the running back position for a couple
of minutes, and that was kind of one of the
things you talked about, was like, Dak has never had
a play making running back.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
He had Zeke.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Zeke was really good. He was not the guy that
was going to house the eighty yards out. I know
he took one on a screen, you know, one time,
but he's never a speed guy. It would help Dak
tremendously to have a guy in the field that could
score without having to put the ball in the air
from any point on the field, especially at this point
in his career where he seems to be maybe on
the down.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Where would you put Pollard in that group? I mean
he was I mean he had.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
I like Pollared a lot, but I just think get
an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
But he had some moment. I mean he he was
there with Dak, He had his moments. He took it
to the house a few times. I know New Orleans
it was about fifty yards or so, and I mean
he had some.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
But but again, I feel like they rode Zeke for
too long and didn't give We heard try two or
three training camps in a row where it's like, Okay,
we're gonna use Pollard more receiver, get him in the
passing game, you know, involved split more cares with Zeke,
and this kind of never happened. It was always a
Zeke show until Zeke was gone. And then you know,
Pollard had his one season and I think he kind
of got a raw deal season. To be honest with you,

(13:20):
I don't think that he had the best offensive line play.
I don't think the play calling was up to snuff
as far as his skills goes. But that kind of
weapened to my next point about Mike McCarthy. You know,
Rob called yesterday. I talked about Mike, and it got
me thinking. So I sat down and I did kind
of pros and cons on Mike McCarthy because I don't
like dog pile.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I like to do my.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Research and try to figure out the other side of
the fence and kind of understandable both positions keeping and
letting go of Mike McCarthy. So I had a hard
time though, making o the pros. You know, all of
the pros on Mike McCarthy were his historical performances, Like
he has a really good career record, so he's doing
something right. Apparently his teams are typically competing for playoff positions,
so he's doing something right. There's quarterback Guru supposedly, and

(14:01):
Dak played his best ball in twenty twenty three. I think,
so maybe there's something to that. But when you look
at like characteristics and traits, like I couldn't think of
anything that Mike does that's like, wow, I want that
guy as my head coach. He's not a great play caller,
he's not a great clock management guys. And here's my
biggest issue was this year the team was the team

(14:25):
has been on discipline. They have a lot of issues
of penalties over his whole tenure here. But this team
was really ill prepared, which was evidenced by the players
and Mike himself for multiple losses talking about how they
didn't practice well during the week and they weren't prepared,
weren't prepared, weren't paying attention to details, and that that's
like the number one thing that a head coach has
to do obviously, is get his team prepared. They're professionals,

(14:47):
the players are. They should be ready anyways. They should
be showing up and getting ready. But if they're not,
you know, a lot of these guys are young kids,
blow to mid twenties, young guys like you got to
get them focused. I don't know how you do it.
I'm not a coach. I don't know the details on that,
but like to me, head coach has to have his
team ready, and they weren't ready in the beginning of
this year multiple weeks. So that's that's the most troubling
thing for me. But if you have any pros I

(15:07):
Mike McCarthy off the top of your head, I'd love
to hear about them.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
All right, Well, thanks thanks for the call, Dylan, and
always always appreciate you always thinking, you know, outside the
box and and not just you know, just coming on
here and saying what about this? And that, I mean
just like coming up with it with some with a
with a different topic, different way to look at it.
That that's that's why you created the Twitter spaces, and
that's why you're one of those leaders there on that

(15:33):
and really took this show to another level. So I
appreciate you doing that. Some of the some of the
pros are things that that aren't they don't have stats
on them, you know, and that's what makes it's kind
of like an offensive lineman. It's like judging them. You
got to sort of know what you're looking at. And
and and in this case with McCarthy, and this is

(15:53):
where it gets. This is kind of tricky because the
players love them. Okay, it's evident by two of the
leaders on both sides. You know, players love and players
players want to play for him. That can be a
good thing. Did anyone want to play for Bear Bryant?
I mean, did anyone want to play for Bill Parcells

(16:13):
and and and those guys I mean Belichick maybe at times.
I mean there's a reason why coaches, you know, think
about when you were in high school and junior high
and those coaches that you didn't like, they probably were
good though for you. So just you know, it's like, yeah,
everybody wants the substitute teacher, but they're not. They're not

(16:34):
there for they're there for a reason. But that's my
point is is that just because they're the it's a
player's coach isn't always a good thing because you know,
there's there's been some talk here maybe they don't practice enough.
Maybe they you know, because he's he's easy on them
and when at times get you know, once them off
their feet, wants to take care of them. Things like

(16:54):
that didn't help with injuries. You know, they still were
the most injured team in the NFL. So, uh, the
players coach thing is kind of that's that's a that's
a tough one because you gotta you gotta know, yes,
it's good on one end, but but sometimes you know,
it's a different it's a different age too, it's a

(17:14):
different era. It's a different era to to just say like, well,
you know, I gotta be real hard on him. You
gotta scare them, you gotta you know, they had to
have fear you know Jimmy Johnson was that way. I mean,
there was there was guys that probably didn't like Jimmy
that much, but at the end of the day that
it was like, hey, he was great for us. I
think Akman would would say that, you know, early on,
I think Jimmy was tough on him. So I don't
know if I answered that. I mean, some of some

(17:34):
of the there there are some some pros he understands,
you know, you know, he under understands how to how
to navigate through a season, and and and you know,
get him, you say, get them ready to play. They
were not prepared, like you said several times during the season.
I think he got him, he got you know, he
kept it going, I kept him playing hard and all

(17:55):
that kind of stuff. Some of that's on the players
as well. So, uh, you know, if more than anything,
if he comes back, it's because he's had good teams,
He's had good he's he's had a good program here
for five years. For three of those years in a row,
when Dak was healthy, for the most part, they were
right there and and and they were they were in

(18:18):
position to to go, you know further in the playoffs.
They lost in the playoffs. But that's what you want,
at least want them to get there when Dak isn't there.
You know, they've they've they've struggled. So were they gonna
Were they gonna get there? Just because Dak state? Who knows?
Who knows? But I mean he's the starter for a reason,
and you know, I would like to think they could
have won some of those games, but who knows. All right,

(18:40):
let's go to Rick in Webster, Massachusetts.

Speaker 8 (18:45):
Hey, Nick, how you doing? Happy New Year and your family?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Thank you appreciate it. Happy New Year to you.

Speaker 8 (18:52):
Yeah, a couple of things, you know, what's uh Dylan said?
You know, Rico is not a number one running back.
He's good, complimentary running back, but I would like to
see him come back. The other key positions I would
like to see a players I would like to see
come back if possible or definitely Jordan Lewis, Oh's up?

(19:14):
We can you know keep them Chauncey and uh, you
know the you know, possibly Kendricks if was like that.
But you're saying, is some of the key positions we
should get, you know, like a running back like middle
rounds and the wide receiver you know, probably you know,

(19:35):
a linebacker and a cornerback to just to show up
the depth there and hopefully that Kaylen Carson and Ware
and Butler and all them come back and help with
the depth at the cornerback position. But all and I
like to have a good New year end. Let's go,

(19:56):
let's beat those commanders this weekend and go from there.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
All right, appreciate it, Thank you Rick for the call.
You know, as you kind of went through the cornerback
position there, it got me thinking, you know, that's that's
a position, that's an area. I don't know where they're
going to pick. I honestly haven't even looked to see
where the draft order would be as it stands right now.
And I'm sure we'll we'll hear that and get that story.

(20:21):
If they win, it could be here. If they lose,
it could be here. I'm guessing somewhere in the middle fifteen,
seventeen eighteen, something like that. I really haven't seen it.
But cornerback is a position there where you know you're
looking at probably you know, I third or fourth corner
depends on traditionally. I don't even know what this year

(20:43):
looks like there on the draft, but you know that's
that's a spot where you could you could take a corner,
you know, and you got Land. That's that's he's going
to need a contract here after this season. Diggs. I
don't know what's going to happen with him. He's his
injury is one that's going to probably go into the
season next year, and you know, and it's going to

(21:05):
be up to him to get himself ready to go
and also to be back. You know, it's not just
the training staff and athletic training trainers getting them back going.
I mean, a part of it's going to be on
him too. He doesn't always stay here in the offseason,
so you know, he's got to be committed to get
back early as well. And so the corner could be

(21:25):
a spot where I could see the Cowboys drafting in
the first round, maybe second, because you just never can't
have enough corners. This year was certainly, you know, it
was certainly one they'll see. Chris is saying the Cowboys
are at thirteen right now. The best they can get
is eleven. What's the worst? You know what the worst? Chris,
jump in here.

Speaker 9 (21:44):
I'm looking at it right now. A second.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
So they can get to eleven if they if they
lose thirteen right now, So all right, that's better than
I thought. Probably in the fifteen range or so. Needed
San Francisco to win last night, that would have been better.
I think. I think it is. You know, it goes
head to head, but it also goes strength of schedule.

(22:09):
I'm not sure if it just goes head to head,
if two teams are tied and whoever won the game
gets the worst draft pick, that or it might just
be strength of schedule. I say, yes, I should know that,
but usually it's all you're you're talking about the twenties
and twenty five.

Speaker 9 (22:20):
Seventeen is the worst. I'm sorry, seventeen is the worst.
So the best you can get as eleven. You can't
get to ten. You get worse as seventeen. So there
you go. There's your window. All right, So fourteen fifteen,
who knows? I mean that that's a bit. I mean,
that's a difference, There's no doubt about it feels like
it's a different player. Seventeen and eleven in the first
round seam. It feels like a different player. To get

(22:43):
to eleven, you want to know the scenario gets to eleven, Okay,
if you lose the game. San Francisco has to win
and Indianapolis has to win, and then then you get that.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
So there you go San Francisco.

Speaker 9 (22:57):
San Francisco play the Arizona Z don't know, Okay, that
could happen.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Indianapolis plays Jacksonville.

Speaker 9 (23:02):
There you go, So there you go.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I don't know who the quarterback is there, I mean Dobbs,
I guess. So, yeah, they needed that win. I mean,
the forty nine ers of winning that game would have
been good. There. Then again, hey, it's all good. Whatever
it is is what it is. Just go and go
get it. Go get a good player, you know. I mean,
if they're a fourteenth, you can always get good value

(23:24):
depending on the position that you get. And I'm telling you,
if you get a guard, I'd be all for it.
You know, Zach Martin was drafted fourteenth and in twenty fourteen,
and I'd be all all for that, you know. I mean,
not a center, you don't know if you need a center,
but getting a guard, getting getting a corner, I think

(23:45):
I think you get great value there. Obviously you get
good value at running back. If that's if that was
one worthy of that to draft that high. I don't know.
I'd rather go for the guard myself than they're back.
But anyways, all right, let's go to k How about
we do that before do anything else? Go to break
here on Cowboy storyline. Be right back, Cowboys fans.

Speaker 10 (24:06):
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Speaker 1 (25:38):
The Cowboys story.

Speaker 12 (25:39):
Huh, Brian, Yeah, I'm here man, all right, Oh now

(26:07):
I can hear you.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Nick, all right, come on, let's go absolutely well.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
Good morning. First of all, good morning to you, sir.
And you know, I the thought I had and listening
to the couple of callers about Rico is I'd like
to see him because the offensive line got better as
the season went on, but without Dak, I'd like to
see him play with the full force of everything. You know,

(26:33):
I'd like to see him all together and see if
he's maybe better than we think he is. I know
he's had a you know, a good you know five
games throt not a good five game stretch because the
win against Tampa wasn't wasn't was not exactly stellar. Yeah,
but but the other games were pretty good. And I

(26:54):
would like to see him starting quarterback, starting offensive line,
whoever that's going to be year, and just see maybe
he's a little better than we fought because he's playing
with them, he's playing under some really adverse conditions, and
he got better as the season went on. So I
know he doesn't have the breakaway speed like somebody mentioned,

(27:15):
you know, he's not the guy that's going to take it,
you know, take it to the house from eighty yards.
But that's just my thought, Henrico. So you know, I
was listening to Isaiah Standback on he does NFL dot
Com once a week, and they were talking about the Vikings,
and they had a very interesting point, and I wanted
to see if you had seen this at any point

(27:35):
in your history with the Cowboys. Five of their players,
key players are cast off guys from other teams and
their top players for the Vikings this year Darnold, Aaron Jones,
Stefan Gilmour, Andrew Van Ginkle, which is their leading sack
guy at twelve and a half, and Jonathan Grenard Greenard anyway,

(28:00):
but their top players on what might be the top
team in the NFC. Had you, I mean, that's a
will of a turnaround.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, it is. If you told me who's the best
player on the Vikings team, I mean, I don't think
you said them. So like when I when I think
of like their star players, I don't think of them.
I mean I think of Justin Jefferson, who I'm sure was,
oh I know was drafted by them, So I mean, yeah,
it's it's definitely key. I mean, what are the Eagles doing?
I mean the Eagles, I mean when I think of them,

(28:33):
I think of, you know, two main guys, aj Brown
and Barkley, and they came from different teams. Slay is
pretty good, you know. I'm saying they've got some key
players too coming from other teams. But yeah, but your
point is it's not the way for the Cowboys. That's
not what the Cowboys have done by far.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
So no, just you know in your mind, what has
been the year if if you've seen one, you know, obviously,
you know back in the day they got Haley, you know,
they got Dion one year. You know, they got some
pretty big players that made a huge difference, right and
maybe turned them around. In your time, there has there
been anybody like that? And I'll hang up and take

(29:15):
that one man. Yeah, Happy New Year, you too, thank you.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah. I mean, obviously you're talking about two of the best,
you know back in the nineties, and with trading for
Haley and then getting don you know, and the Don
one was taking him away from the forty nine ers
and putting him on your team. Uh so it made
him better for sure. And you know, that was probably
the biggest one of all time because Larry Brown was

(29:40):
a solid player and he had a phenomenal season and
I think we all know why because I mean, he
had a little bit more safety help than he ever
did before. Because de Han's on the other side, you know,
we haven't seen free agents like that. The best one
that I can think of since I've been here that

(30:00):
just came in and was phenomenal was Leroy Glover. That
that to me is the best free agent signing that.
Since I've been here four years, four Pro Bowls, he
was really really good on some teams that weren't that good,
but but he was, you know, he was really a
great player. Brandon Carr thought was a pretty good free

(30:23):
agent acquisition. Again, like, we're not talking about a lot.
This doesn't happen a lot. So uh no, No, there
hasn't been a ton of free agent help guys that
just come in and and and make a difference. That's
by design. That's not what the Cowboys do. Should they
change it? If they could, you know, if if, I
mean if if they can, and I think this year

(30:45):
you'll see more of that because I think they will
sign some some have to sign free agents because they
there's twenty five of them on their team. So even
if they signed their own whatever, I think they're gonna
sign more outside than their guys on their own team.
That's just what I think. So I think it'll look
like they're a little bit more active in free agency,

(31:06):
when in reality, I think it'll be more of a
shift of the roster, if that makes sense. All right,
let's go to a Zach in Chicago.

Speaker 13 (31:15):
Oh hey, Nick, it's Josh.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Oh I'm oh sorry, Josh in Chicago. That's how you know,
I'm sorry. Oh good, what's that, Bud?

Speaker 6 (31:23):
Not too much?

Speaker 13 (31:23):
So hey, you know, I real quick on the Eagles game,
I predicted a win from the Cowboys, you know, and
some of the bold predictions I've made this year I
could have been more wrong about. So I'll just make it,
you know, last day of twenty twenty four, I'll make
a twenty twenty five bold prediction. I'll make two of them.
The first one Overshown won't play until twenty twenty six,
and the second one the Cowboys won't go.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
To the super Bowl.

Speaker 13 (31:44):
So if I'm wrong about those, you know, the storyliners,
they can pin it on Twitter x and you know
they can they can call me out if I'm wrong
about those, Okay, okay, So yeah, So I just wanted
to mention really quick about some of the younger guys.
I feel like taking a step forward.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know.

Speaker 13 (32:01):
Mazzie Smith, I think is looking at a little bit
better in the past few weeks and few games. And
I think Collins, now Malie Collins, who is you know,
signed by Kansas City, is having like a really good year.
And I think Hankins was talking in the offseason about
how it took him a few years to figure out
really how the defensive tackle position really worked in the NFL.
So hopefully Mazzie turns that corner and keeps developing. But

(32:24):
I also want to bring up Smith, right, Like, Tyler
Smith really kind of struggled his first year and then
he really kind of figured it out his second year,
And I'm hoping that's kind of the same thing that
happens with Guidon in the future as well. I mean,
the guy's inn athletic freak. He's got a lot of traits,
but he didn't play a lot of college ball, so
maybe he can figure it out too. That's kind of
all I have, you know, looking forward to the future.
But have a happy New Year everyone, see all later.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Thanks man, appreciate the call, Josh. You know you say
that about I tried to have that argument too, Like,
you know, Tiremon Smith wasn't that great his first year.
He played right tackle, he started every game. He was
he was pretty good. He just wasn't like, oh, he's
going to the Hall of Fame, you know. It wasn't
like that. He wasn't a pro bowler and all that.

(33:09):
But he he they moved him back to the left side,
and then of course the rest is history with him.
That's not what we've seen, you know, from from Tyler Guyton,
like we haven't we haven't seen that having seen a
lot of the flashes the moments there, he's it's it's
it's like it was with Mazie, you know, he's he's

(33:29):
got to he's got to get better. And it starts
in the weight room for him, and and maybe in
the film room. And he's got to understand, you know
a lot of things. I mean, it's not just about
hasn't played because when you haven't played a lot of football,
I mean, that's there's there's two parts of that. You
you know, you got to learn how to play, but
also you got to learn learning the game, learning the huddle,

(33:52):
learning the calls, learning the the schemes, stuff like that.
It's not just about pass rush moves from the you know,
defense and and and figuring out where to put your hands.
It's there's a lot of stuff about playing football. And
so he's he's got to grow up. And they knew that,
they knew that he had some you know, learning to
do on and off the field, and so if he

(34:14):
if he wants it, you know, if he wants it
bad enough. And that's not just Tyler Guyton, that's any
player in the league, any young guy, if they want
to succeed and they want to do all the little things,
then then he can get there because he's got you know,
he's he's got the frame, he's got all of that.
He's an athlete, he's got some strength to him. He's

(34:36):
got some dog to him as well. He's just got
to he's got to want to put the work together
and put the work in in the off season and
all that to try to go and and and be
be that guy. I think he can. We'll see, we'll
see if he turns the corner the because they need it.
I mean, you can't whiff on first round picks, and
this team can't. They don't. They don't have free agents.

(34:56):
They don't you know, they don't sign free agents. So
you better not miss on first round picks. That's what's
made this team, you know, it's what's made it kind
of work here. And then why they've had a good
competitive rosters because they have drafted well, not just in
the first round, but they're hitting on some of these players,
but they're definitely they were hitting on the first round,
and then last two years you can say that they

(35:18):
have not They've not hit for first round. I mean,
Mazzi was solid this year, but only because of our expectations.
And that's the thing. If Tyler Guidon is better next year,
just solid, that's still not going to be good enough
for what you drafted in the first round. So all right,
let's go. Our next caller is David in Pinehurst, Texas.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Nick Man, thanks for having me on the show. I
just have to tell you something, huge loyal Cowboys fan
of was bored in seventy five from the newer nineties
nineties fan. But man, hell is not red, it is green.
I went to two games this season in Dallas versus
the Texans, and yeah, I was in Philly last Sunday

(36:04):
State at the Bellevue Hotel. Wore a Cowboys jersey in
the subway to Philly, Section three, Section one oh four,
Row three, seats one through four. And let me tell
you something, that fan base is the most loyal, crazy
fan base I've ever been around.

Speaker 10 (36:23):
You.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
That atmosphere was like Kyle Field except for every whoop
you got an fu Cowboys. The only thing that saved
me from not getting my butt kicked was I had
forty seven on the front and I had Trump on
the back. Philly was a swing state. They loved that
guy there. The last thing I want to say is
this franchise needs a structural seismic change. I don't have

(36:48):
all the answers and what that is, but we've got
to look to the division champion. They've won seven in
the last twenty we won seven. They've been to two
Super Bowls or two Conference cheamschampionships, you know, and they
have one bowl to represent. Howie has got to be
probably the best gem in the NFC because Lorie lets
him do his thing. They got away from the Carson

(37:11):
Wentz contract. We have got to do something seismic. Going
back to Mike, I think Mike is a great motivator
of men. I think he's a good man. He's got
a chip on his ring, you know. But let's call
a spade a spade. The team turned around when they
hired DQ as the DC. What happened this season? No DQ,

(37:32):
the team goes in the toilet. I know we had
significant injuries. I don't know what the answer is, other than.
We need a cultural shift, and it's got to start
with mister Jones doing something drastic. I'll still support him.
I love him till I die, and I'm gonna be
at the next tough home game somewhere, maybe a Legion

(37:53):
if it's there. But please let me go to an
away game where we win and we show up better
than the way that we did in Philly. Please, mister
Jones do something for the loyal fan base. That's really
all I got.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Did you hold on? I still can't get past this.
He wore a forty seven Cowboys jersey forty seven with
Trump on the back.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
You damn right, I did, And it was the only
thing that saved me for me getting my butt kicked.
I had little twelve year old kids telling me off,
flipped me the bird eyed for my other friends, my
other buddy wore a Parsons eleven jersey. That was the
only reason, you know, because he's a he's a Pennsylvania guy,
you know, so they loved him. And but and I
think is where we were sitting, you know it. We

(38:35):
weren't in the cheap seats, So I mean, and that's
another thing, you know, I'm paying my harder money to
support this team. But I will tell you every fan
Cowboys fan, do it one time in your life. It
is somewhat of just going into like I said, uh,
your rivals hell, and it sucks even worse when you
get your butt kick like we did. But I hope

(38:57):
I know that I felt everything that mister Jones felt
knits him when he was there, because I saw, you know,
the tweets and the videos and whatnot. Hey, I felt
the same thing there. But like I said, the only
thing that saved me was the forty seven Trump Jersey.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Okay. I don't know if that would save you in
every city, but maybe maybe it did there. All right,
all right, thanks David. That's interesting. I didn't see that,
but I think we'll all agree whatever it is. I
think that we're looking to make the Cowboys great again,
so that's probably if that's if that would work, then
that's fine. All right. Let's go to Randy in California. Randy, Yeah,

(39:39):
go ahead, what's up? Randy?

Speaker 8 (39:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't hear anything like you just
I can hear you talking, and then Rand are you
ready to go?

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I'm ready to go. Hey, we'll talk about that, the
Eagles game and everything. You hear me, Yeah, so the
Eagles game and the Cowboys game which they lost.

Speaker 8 (39:56):
Which was expected.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
But there's something that's provious Jerry to do better. I
was listening to him to the fan and he has
a great way of answering questions without actually answering the question,
which I find astonishing.

Speaker 14 (40:09):
They need to stop having these.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Deals where they wait till the last minute to sign
someone because they already knew what was going to cost
for DAK. If they already knew what was going to
cost for CD Lamb, then you get like, you get
to look at some of these players if they're gonna
be cornerstone players or not, and if they don't want.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
To fight on, I'm going to stop you.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
Randy.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
I'm gonna have to stop you. That is absolutely wrong, Okay,
that that is wrong. And when people say that, they
act like the DAK number was sixty two, like two
years ago, a month ago, all that to the time
it was sixty and the Cowboys finally they were trying
to get there and they finally said, ah, I find
it sixty. That wasn't the deal. DAK was asking for

(40:46):
sixty five. CD was asking for thirty seven. So it
wasn't like they they if they would have done the
deal two months ago or six months ago, they would
have been they they would have paid way more. So,
like you, people don't know what these two players were
asking for. That's why it took as long as it did.
It was actually a negotiation. People just think, uh, cowboys said, fine, fine,

(41:10):
whatever you want, here's a blank tech nag do it.
That wasn't the case like they. They fought on this
to this point. So people don't ever realize that the
player is actually holding it hostage too, because they are
asking for the moon and the cat and that's that's
what it is. So anyways, I had to throw that
out there because I don't think people realize that.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, I mean, and that's the player's progative to do
that to make his most money the Again, it's sure, yeah,
I'm totally poor that So like for instance, like Trevor
Lawrence got like it was fifty five. So I'm as
because you're paying some you're paying a player for what
they have done and what you expect them to do.
And what have Dak has done has been far greater
in significance than Trevor Lawrence. So you already knew it

(41:51):
was going to be over fifty five, right, So.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
I get your point.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
He said, yes for sixty five, and we're thinking about
sixty and narrow it down.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
That's fine.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
But if you're going to like someone like Precious, if
Overshown wasn't hurt, and when's the quickest you can you
can sign in, you should do it. If you really
think he's that special foot player, get on it because
you can spread the cap hit over hit even though
it's fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I'm with you on that. If you know, if you
know right away that you want the player, and yeah,
then then started early. I think the same way when
in that term. But you know, agents are pretty good too.
Now the agents are like whoa, you know, if you
if you want to if you want to pay it early,
then this is what it's going to because then was
what happens is the agent projects everyone's projecting. Well, the

(42:35):
agent thinks that Overshown is going to be Ray Lewis,
So you know that's what an agent does. They think
of their player that way. So they that's when they're like, oh,
you want to sign them early? You know two years ahead? Well,
this is what he's going to do this year and
next year and he'll be this so might as well
pay for it, you know. That's why they try to
do that with Deron Bland. But I mean, Darron Bland

(42:57):
has you know, the pick sixes and all that, and
it's like you know, now, now we'll we'll wait, we'll
wait and see how this goes.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
No, I guarantee. I that's that's totally fine by the
same standpoint. And you know, they're putting their put they're
putting their their client at risk if or if it's
significant injury, then they can if they can't play no
more that and there are things that hurt that kind
of hurts them.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Free agency, that's the game, and that's always yeah, yeah,
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I would say the big and the biggest team to
the biggest incentive to get these players to sign an
early contractor is making a fully guarantee because that's what
it really matters, because then that you can either have
you know, injury, you know, injury clause and all other
kind of stuff. But like giving the guaranteed money the
biggest game and if you're gonna sign them early. Guard
he signed with the last highest finebacker got in that market,
you can go five million above that, and then you
added on it to the other two years, and then

(43:45):
then and then I was gonna say, you know, uh,
is Mica going into his is his fifth year option
or is this his gay year?

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (43:52):
He No, he's going into the fifty year option.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
So okay, So yeah, so I have this, Well, I
think they're probably can. I think I would be disappointed
if they really drag this out and not get it
done and might have misses out on training cap I'll
be very disappointed. But when we were talking about Deron Blane,
if this team doesn't feel like, okay, don Brent's gonna
cost too much money, we're paying a corner already, then

(44:15):
you have to start look at the options. Okay, we'll
trade them.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Then other teams.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
If the other teams know they're not going to sign someone,
they trade them, you're gonna get a higher draft pick
instead of just Ai. And then the last one, right
manage all having a fart, but I had a brave part.
But yeah, oh the last one was like Howie Roseman,
the way he's doing stuffing, He's adding him a lot
of stuff on the pro rated bonuses and non pro

(44:40):
rated bonuses, which eventually costs them in the end because
in twenty twenty nine, they're like, they have like two
hundred million dollars in dead money and he's in that
window now, he doesn't worry because if he doesn't do
anything in the time of his contract, he's getting fired.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Are they gonna win? That's the thing? This is, this
is exactly what the Cowboys were three years ago, and
they they they've got to win. This is their window
to when they they're there. They're they're having the same
type of season they're there. They got to win. Uh,
you know, if they don't, then yeah, you'll be blamed
for it. But you know, he's going for it, you know.
And people don't like to realize that what the Cowboys
did the same thing. Cowboys went for it in their

(45:14):
own way and and it's it didn't work in their window.
Now they're kind of look like they're getting out of it.
All right, It's go to Robin Vegas. Hey, Nick, Hey,
rob got to be quick man. I still got a
break to do. So what's up.

Speaker 14 (45:25):
Did you watch that game last night?

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I did.

Speaker 14 (45:28):
Those are the two best play callers in the league,
and that of those offenses a light years ahead of
the Cowboys do. And there's a guy available, uh that
Ben Johnson.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
I mean, if he could do that.

Speaker 14 (45:45):
With Jared Goff, who I always thought I think he's
a little better than Dak, but hell, he could do
with him. He could do it here. Uh we were
talking about coaching game Campbell to me is the type
of coach you need, and especially with today's because of
the money and because of the outside influence, you need

(46:05):
a guy like that. He is so much like Bill
Parcells where he just gives you the look and these
players know that's the kind of guy you need, a
walk around coach surrounded by really good assistant coaches. And
the only reason if Jerry stays with Mike, it's just

(46:27):
like the same reason why people stay in a bad relationship.
It's just because he's comfortable. That's all it is. There
is no other reason than to bring him back other
than Jerry just says, you know, I'm just comfortable. He's
a nice guy.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
I like him.

Speaker 14 (46:41):
We get a longer and a maighty two whatever I am.
And that's it because he doesn't bring anything else today
that his ceiling is. He shows you what his ceiling is,
and to me, that would be such a wrong move.
I agree with the last caller. Yes, of course there
has to be a shake up at the front office,

(47:02):
but that won't happen. So let's go to the next
trickle down, which would be the head coach. And that's
why this team needs such a strong coach, like at
Jimmy Johnson. You know, you know, Jerry used to do
the same thing with Jimmy. Bring people into the locker room,
kiss them off, and Jimmy would just look, give him
a look, but then go about his business like come on,
get at you. That's what they need. And unfortunately, I

(47:26):
just don't know if Jerry wants at his age and
his billions of dollars, I just don't think he has
the will to win a championship like he used to.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
You know, yeah, I can't. I can't. I just would disagree,
but I don't know, it's not worth arguing about, you know,
what someone else is feeling and all that. I think
the desire to win as much as it's ever been,
probably even more because it's been so hard to get back.

Speaker 14 (47:53):
But yeah, but it's like this, It's like I want
to hit the lottery, but I don't play it.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 14 (47:59):
It's it's like Jerry, I want to win a championship,
but I don't do what you need to win a championship.
He knows what needs to be done.

Speaker 13 (48:05):
He ain't stupid.

Speaker 14 (48:06):
He looks at these teams, it says, wow, free agencies
really help these teams, especially Philly. And he doesn't do
anything like those teams. So if you don't do that,
you will never win a championship. Yeah, you cannot draft.
All right, good enough.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
All right, all right, Rob, appreciate you. Yeah, a new
year to you two. You got you'd be safe. Let's
go to break real quick and we'll be right back
after this.

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Speaker 4 (49:30):
To Cowboys storyline.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
What's up, We're back here to close this thing out
and not only close out the show, but close out
the season. In the year of twenty twenty four, I
got the crew here, I got my son, Jacob, got
Chris is kids right here. Look at Logan and Presley.
What's up? Everyone? Say hey, hey, hey, real quick, Christmas came.
What was your What was your best gift? Mine was

(49:56):
of your head VR headset about what about you? Guys?
Say loud by iPad got iPad I. Oh, okay, awesome,
all right. So and you guys, do you even know
what a new Year's resolution is? You did? What is it?
And what are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (50:12):
It's like a thing you want to do, like for
the New year, and I do not have one yet.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
You don't have one. You're just perfect as this. No,
you don't need to get better. I mean, okay, what
if the Cowboys said that, like, we're good, we don't
need a resolution. We're good. All right, guys, we're gonna
wrap this thing up. We got to get out of here.
Why don't you say, everyone, Happy New Year, New Year?
All right, Happy New Year's Eve. That's right, all right,
So for Chris, be his kids, for Jacob, my whole family,

(50:41):
all that. Happy New Year to everyone. We will see
you next year. We'll see you on Thursday, Thursday, January second.
We back here for a Cowboys story line. Bye bye,
Happy New Year.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
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