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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome to Jackson This Onrning Kindnu Stephens, fran Sexton, John
Oser with you today. It's week twelve. The Jaguars are
preparing to head out to Arizona to take on the
Cardinals this weekend. This all coming off a really dominant
performance against the Charger Skier at home last week. Let's
get into our big Things for today, brought to you
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and retirees. Big thing number one is a new standard.
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When we talk about that Chargers game, it's going to
be what I think the coaching staff refers back to
as the new standard for this football team and how
well they can play. Brian, how important is it that
they continue this new standard into another week.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, that's the whole goal of Gladstone, Bissellly and Cohen
and the regime that they have brought in and where
they're started. And I know everybody's thinking about game day
because that's the ultimate measure of what your standard is.
But really what the coach has been talking about this
week is the standard here during the week, from Monday
to Friday, whether you win or whether you lose, you
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have to come in and do the same things every
single week, and hopefully you do them a little better
than last week. So the standard is how they work
on the practice field, how they eat when they're in
the dining room, how they work in the meeting rooms,
how they take advantage of the time in the strength
and conditioning spaces for rehabilitation. The standard is set from
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Monday to Friday, and it shows itself on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
John, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Think you know when you say new standard. You can't
reach a thirty five to six standard over another postseason
team every week, like Brian said, But I do think
you can. You meet the standard of fewer penalties, of
being physical with the line of exacerimage, of playing to
your level and then seeing that seeing where that ends up.
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I said, You're not going to double another team's yards
or triple on other teams yards in the NFL every week.
But I do think Liam believes they can play cleaner,
they can play smarter, they can play better and if
if they channel that, you know, to me, that's really
the theme this week. Last week is great, but if
you don't follow it up, it loses a lot of importance.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Week tweak leak. We'll go on to our second big
thing today, which is gonna be Who's it gonna be.
We talked to a ton about the injuries for this team,
and this week is even more than we've normally seen.
Added on to the injury report. We're hoping to get
Brenton Strange back this week, John, but Trevon Walker didn't
practice yesterday. Any other names that jump out to you
from the injury report.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well, Trayvon jumps out.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I mean a d NP after a knee the week
before leads you to believe that could be dicey.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You're watching Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I don't know there. I don't have a great feeling
about that, but that's pure, you know, just sort of
watching the last couple of weeks. I do think they
get Brenton back, and I think to me, Brian, and
the interesting part will be do they get Jordan Lewis back.
If you're out, Trayvon, I don't think you make up
for Trayvon being out on this roster. But they get Lewis,
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Beck and Striegau and Green step up a little bit,
then you can counter that.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's worth mentioning that Trayvon went back into the ballgame.
After he was initially diagnosed with the knee in the
second half. So we'll see where that's at. I have
no indication, but when you look at a team that
threw the ball fifty seven times and a quarterback who
set an NFL record with forty seven completions in again, yeah,
Jordan Lewis would seem to be important. He was out
there running around during the portion of practice that was
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open to the media on Wednesday. Also, you hope Greg
Newsom is a guy who can come back. He's given
every indication that he will. You're going to need your
best covered corners out there on Sunday afternoon against the
team that throws the ball a lot. Now, they threw
it underneath a lot, John, I mean they dumped it
off to a guy named Michael Wilson who's thirty seven
catches on the season, but he got fifteen in the
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game last week. I think it goes to show that
the Cardinals made the most of what they had with
Jacoby Brissett and the tight end and this guy Michael
Wilson and the third string running back, and they put
up a lot of yards.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So the defense is going to have to be ready.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, most coaches would tell you they don't want their
quarterback to set the league record for most completions or
because it means you're probably setting a big record for
being behind. But this Cardinals team, that being said, they
can throw, so you got to rush them.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
They've been high and behind a lot the last two weeks.
They've given up forty one and forty four points in
the last two games.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Our final big thing today is going to be tight
end troublesompen. We talk about that Arizona Cardinals offense. It
runs through their tight end. Trey McBride and dam Cohen
talked a little bit yesterday about what the challenges are
defending him.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
A lot of respect for Tray's extremely versa. It's whole
similar in a lot of ways. The brock that way,
and you know, look, you've got to have eyes on
him and understand where he is in the formation at
all times in terms of he attached, is he in
the hip, is he in the slot, is he at one?
You know, obviously building a plan around you know, stopping
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guys like that is mixing up looks, right, is trying
to give different looks and present them and make sure
that maybe you have some some areas in the red area.
Whatever it is to double them or take away their
best player. That's some some things that we're looking at.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Brian is seem has had trouble with some talented tight ends.
We saw what Brock Bauers did. Trey McBride has the
ability to kind of go off, and that's clearly their
main target on offense.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You know, this guy plays like Travis Kelcey, he plays
like Rob Bronkowski, he plays like Greg Kittle. Great energy,
mixes it up whether he's blocking or whether he's catching
the ball. I mean, this guy's got a big time
I want to play attitude. I love watching him. I
think he's special. You hope that Devin Lloyd is up
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for the challenge this week. You'd love to have Eric Murray,
but he's on injured reserve. Antonio Johnson's gonna have to
be on his piece and cues because this guy will
give you everything he's got. You had ten catchers in
the ballgame last week in that loss. But when you
watch him play, john I mean, he's just he's a
football player through and through.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, he's really good. I tend with storylines like this,
I kind of lump it into the same The Jaguars
don't play well against backup quarterback. Well, for fifteen years
they haven't been that good. So good players, good tight
ends have beaten them. Well, good wide receivers have beatn them.
I mean it's a little bit of that. That being said,
this guy's really good and I think Liam Cohen said
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it best this week. You're probably not gonna take him
away with just one guy. One way to do it
you have to give different looks and frankly, you have
to shut down the rest of the offense so when
he gets his few, it's not a game breaking few.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
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Enemy Lines? Are we checking with a media member of
the opposing team against the Jaguars This week we're headed
to Arizona, so we're checking in with Arizona Cardinals team
reporter Craig Grilud. Craig, thank you for joining us. It
feels like we've reached that point of the season where
I mean, you guys are battling some injuries, had some
reports come out on Wednesday, So where's the team kind
of at with you guys right now?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Well, some good news on Wednesday. Running back Trey Benson
had his twenty one day practice window opened up, so
he's been on the field. Not sure if he'll be
available come Sunday. By that at least some good news
for a team, especially at that position that has.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Been banged up.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Amaro de Mercado is not going to play this week,
so that leaves Bam Knights and Michael Carter if Trey
is unable to go, And then for the second straight week,
Marvin Harrison Junior is not going to be available as
well because.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Of an appendicitis.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
So some good news, some bad news, but hey, no
one cares about your injuries because every team goes through it.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yes we all do. We know our fair share as well.
On offense, some moving parts, as you mentioned, not quite
sure what the running back room is going to look like.
The Jaguars have had some trouble with significant trouble with
tight ends this year. Brock Bauers had a field day
and we know Trey McBride can always be a game wrecker.
So what have you seen from him this year and
how crucial is he to the offense?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
You know, last season was his first full season as
a starter, and he had an outstanding year. I think
he's been even better this season because everyone knows about
Trey McBride now. I believe the stat going into last
week's game was that Trey McBride was the third most
double team pass catcher regardless of positions. So there is
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extra attention on number eighty five, Yet he still continues
to be the focal point of the offense that was
even with a healthy Marvin Harrison Junior. Certainly Michael Wilson
and how he played last week will kind of maybe
change things up perhaps for teams coming up like the
Jaguars on Sunday. But look, whether it's Kyder Murray or
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Jacoby Brissett, the tight end has always been the quarterback's
best friend, and McBride finds a way to get open.
And then what has made him, I think, elevate his
game to another level this season is what he does
after the catch. And then this season with already six
touchdown catches after having two last season, so the Cardinals
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are doing a good job of finding him inside the
red zone and making that production mean something on the.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Scoreboard on the defensive side of the ball. Cup to cuff.
Tough couple of weeks the last two weeks for you guys,
But what do you think the defensive focus is going
to be for the team going against the Jaguars this week?
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Every week, defensive players said every week it stopped the run.
And when you look at this Jaguars offense, especially what
they did last week at home against the Chargers, almost
two hundred rushing yards.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
So the focal point for the Cardinals will.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Be defensively at least stop the run no matter who's
running that football, and then try to get into known
pass situation. Head coach Jonathan Gannon doesn't believe in the
sack number as a statistic as far as a winning
stat but he does believe in affecting the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
And we know Trevor Lawrence with the.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Eight interceptions this season, has been prone to the turnover.
So if the Cardinals can again make it a one
dimensional offense for Jacksonville certainly would go a.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Long way with the Cardinals getting to win on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Can you give me a name or two, an X
factor player on either side of the ball that you
feel like we'll need to have a good game if
the Cardinals want to get a win.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Offensively, how about we just go with the low hanging
fruit in Michael Wilson.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Can he do what he did last week? Probably not,
He's not going to have one hundred and eighty five
receiving yards.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
But without Marvin available, can Michael be that wide receiver
one for a second straight week? And then on the
flip side defensively, rookie defensive lineman Walter Nolan the third
has only played three games, but he's already tied for
the third most tackles for lost with four, and he
has found a way to be disruptive on that side
of the ball as far as either collapsing the pocket
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from the inside outs or freeing up someone else at
Josh Sweat or Zavon Collins Acclays Campbell to make a
play in the backfield. Been very impressed by what we've
seen from Walter, Cardinals first round pick this season. Injury
earlier in the year, but now finally healthy.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Very good. We will see you this Sunday in the
Desert thanks for joining us.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
That's Craig Grieloud with the Arizona Cardinals and our behind
Enemy Line segment to say with us here on jags Am.
Coming up after the breaker, we will tell you what
we think the headlines are going to be on Monday morning. Yes,
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jags Am. We learned a little bit more about the
Cardinals from the team reporter, and now we are going
to give you our predictions from Monday morning. What we
think the headlines are gonna be? Brian, what do you
think will be talking about on Monday morning?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, I'm gonna stick with my theme all week.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You know, these Jags versus those Jags, and I went
with these Jags exclamation point. I really think I'm being optimistic.
I think Breton Strang's returns, I think they run the ball,
I think they passed the ball. Well, but watching this
team all week, John, watching them last week, it's clear
that you know Liam Cohen has got this team at
a completely different point than it has been in a
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long time, and I think these Jags go out there
and handle business. I'm not saying it's gonna be a
clobbering like it was last week, because you can't predict
those kinds of wings. But I think these Jags will
play well. I think they will run the ball. I
think they will pressure the quarterback, create takeaways, and come
away with a win that sends them to Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
With the momentum that they built.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Last week, it's a big game because you feel like
they've spent the first nine or ten weeks. Remember this
is a new thing still, and when you start in
September with a new regime, you're still trying to figure
out what you are. And it felt like they knew
what they were early, and then last week the players
really bought into that. And you know, I'm not saying
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they hadn't before, but there was a Okay, we get it.
This is how we're going to win, and you need
to follow that up. So I do think these Jags
is an appropriate headline.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
One of the things that gives me great optimism about
these Jags. I had a conversation after practice the other
day with Shan Surrett, the offensive line coach, and we
talked about Anton being out and Cold.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Stepping in and.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Ezra Cleveland missing some time, and just the way that
this particular group, because listen, they're the heartbeat of the.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Offense right now.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
If they're playing well, then this offense can go do
what it wants to do, which is be physical and
run the ball. I have the strong sense that that
room in particular is in a really good place and.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
The other heartbey of the offense, which is why I
went with see segue that's a specional television here, Desert
Runner or Riders that I go at.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Run Desert Runner.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I don't a Desert Rider, but.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
If they're gonna win, I think they need to run.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I think, for the most part, we have seen when
the Jaguars are are the more physical team, they're usually
the better team, and they usually win. It may be
an exception or two, but that's what they believe. And
if they're gonna play to their identity, which against a
team that you ought to beat, you ought to play
to your identity. So Desert Runners is what I went with,
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and I went with base Shelle Tooton, but it could
have been Travis.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Etm any other runners. We're all running.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
We're all runners, We're all runners, We're all winners.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Let's hope. I kept to the desert theme myself. I said,
it's not a mirage because I think a lot is
gonna come down on the secondary this week. And I
have been non complimentary of them at times throughout the
season because I feel they can play better. I think
this will be a great opportunity. They don't have a
ton of a run game right now. They're running back.
Has opened their practice window they start running back. But
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I don't think he's going to play this weekend, so
I think it's still going to be a lot of
Jacoby Brissett, and this is a great opportunity for the
secondary to come in and shut some stuff down. They're
not gonna have Marvin Harrison Junior, who had an appendectomy
last week, so he's not gonna play, so a lot
of it'll be around Trey McBride and then some of
the other guys that stepped up last week in garbage time.
But I think this is a great opportunity for the
secondary to come up kind of prove themselves a little bit.
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Greg Newsom, I think we'll be back. We don't know
about Jordan Lewis yet, but I think Jarian Jones has
been playing really great the last two weeks when Jordan
has been out, so I think this is an opportunity
for him as well.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
So if you get those two guys back, and you've
got Jarian Jones who's playing well, and how about Christian Brasswell, right,
he stepped in last week and it looked like he'd
been for a guy who's been on and off the roster,
on and off the practice squad for most of his
young career. He looked like a seasoned veteran last week
and played very well. So much of what they do
in Arizona right now is the underneath stuff. You'd like
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to think tip a couple of balls and maybe Devin
Lloyd or Foyer's there and you could get a couple
of takeaways and get that thing going again too.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It's not a mabarage.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Was good because I think that's what people want to see,
right it is prove it to us and at some
point in good seasons, usually a team hits a run
where they win two or three in the second half
the season and put themselves from you know, middling to oh,
they're pretty good right now. Based on the Chargers game,
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you have some momentum to having one of those kind
of runs, and they need to get a couple and
make that colds game board.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
If they're a contender, they win this week.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yes, this is an absolute provy game, and I hope
and think they can do that out in Arizona. So
enjoy the game this weekend. We will be back with
you on Tuesdays. We have that late travel back from Arizona.
But enjoy this one and we'll see next week. Tags fanis,
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Speaker 5 (17:12):
You gonna let that game beat us again this Sunday?
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Are we We can't?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
We cannot allow that game to beat us place, don't
what what is our response gonna be? It's a difficult moments.
The tough mullet, everything guys is still in front of us.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Everything put to the ends. All touchdown, he's gonna get sacked.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
We're gonna sack it again.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
But no, my touchdown, Jackson Villa's extended the lay.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Good for the touchdown that bolls intercepting Antonio Johnson picks
it off.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Wretchard for the pilot travase et.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Touchdown all day long and every Bank stadium.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
How good is that?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's pretty good? I jumped the guy I got. We
had this wonderful pecans This year we have an hunt
extra and also sounds in the game and a good
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Speaker 4 (18:08):
The Beatles were famous for their false endings.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
They would have songs, yeah, I mean come back. It
was a false ending. So you're right up there with
the best.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Oh, of course, me and the Beatles clearly the same.
This is an opportunity this weekend for them to go
out and show who they are.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Interestingly enough, the Jaguars, in their thirty first season, have
only ever been to Arizona twice, which is crazy. We went, yeah,
just scheduling and they you know, they redrew the divisions
in two thousand and two and it shook it all up.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
They've changed the scheduling modes.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
We were there in the final season that they played
at Sun Devil Stadium in two thousand and five. We
went the weekend after Thanksgiving instead of the weekend before.
And then we were there in twenty seventeen at the
current stadium, State Farm Stadium. So it's the least visited
place for the Jaguars in franchise history, and it's just
sort of a crazy twist of fate.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
No bad memories, some good ones.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, I've only been there once and it's an outstanding stadium.
They did not farewell and in the last trip there
in seventeen, they had beat by a backup quarterback in
Blaine Gabbert. So this needs to be a reverse of that.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
You can't relive that. And it's a big game.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
They're all big, but this is a significant game and
like you said, contenders.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Win this game. All right.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
It's a later kick. It's at four pm on Sunday.
We will see you back here next week on Jackson
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