December 31, 2024 • 48 mins
Our roundtable of local beat writers discuss the latest Dallas Cowboys news & notes hosted by Newy Scruggs.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Cowboys This is.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and
offering sizzling takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Now your host new He scrugs.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Medium ash on New Year's Eve. People working getting things
done tomorrow. Don't look for certain folks because they won't
be here. They'll be out there doing doing their thing.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Jack Taylor's here, Nick Harris is here. You have so
it's most work on the.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Tuesday is ours? What is work like?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
What is it like? Scruggs feel good on Tuesday? Make
it Tuesday. We've expanded it today.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Kaiser sources allowed one day only change do what welcome?
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Nick?
Speaker 7 (01:04):
How you doing man?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I'm blessed man. You don't know you know you really?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Clarence is allowed Jack to return on Tuesday and the
mixture as well.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Show this show is sponsible.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Don't don't don't feed into the I mean these my brother.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
My brothers right here, and they fired me on the
TUESDA that wasn't here.
Speaker 7 (01:28):
That's crazy fired l.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Don't don't feed in. I got fired on the tubes questions,
don't feed into.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
The who called you to come into that?
Speaker 8 (01:39):
It's true, true, don't even don't even don't you can.
Speaker 9 (01:50):
Clean know he said a group live on your fingernails.
I know he said a group texting. I don't know
why you did this. You said a group texts. Find
somebody you.
Speaker 10 (02:01):
Said that, Oh are you sent a text message?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And now you're gonna can we can we just talk about.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
He got receipts on you.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You can send the group text message. It ain't even
you don't know why you're doing this.
Speaker 10 (02:15):
This is what we talk about when the cowboys have
nothing to play for but pry into the last week
of disease.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Niggas good to happen, Shot, thanks for coming in for
playing my brother. Hey, thank you very much, Thank you
very much. I keep calling Tiger Woods to say, let's
celebrate every on returning. I don't even think about calling
Lebron ain't happening. Bo Diddley's dead, so I can't talk
to him on the thirty. If Sandy Kofax is just
saying he's kind of boring like me, so.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Is he is?
Speaker 11 (02:44):
Man?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I did not know that. I did not know that.
Speaker 10 (02:46):
You can't tell he's got that Capricorn grind. He got
twenty seven.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Jobs mine on Sunday, so feel free.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It is that man, the fifth niggas a grinder.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Two man, I was the.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Fifth for real.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
Look at this? Look at this Joe Trahan.
Speaker 10 (03:04):
Black, Joe Traf right, yeah, all before Jason, did I know?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I like this.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I like this kid.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Guys was having a party before y'all to the capitol.
Huh right, hey stop that. Let's dive into the final, final, final, final,
final regular season game for the Dallas Cowboys twenty twenty
four season. It will be at Jerry World. The Washington
Commanders come to town up there. They call it Dallas Week. Here,
we just call it the end.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That the end this boys, men, the question is the
end of what you know and you know?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Is it the end? Or will it be a continuation?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
So Kayser source say, you jumped off right where I
was gonna go one O five three the fan today
Jerry Jones has the radio show and just was very
noncommittal about Mike McCartney, the head coach.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
So that leads me to.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Believe, gentlemen, right now, coming off this Philadelphia game, because
it was good vibes after beating Tampa Bay.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
The vibes is not good.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
After forty one to seven, blowed out, lost to Philly, getting.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Ready to face dan Quinn Washington.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Who you take if you take away the scoreboard? It
was a close game.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Okay, Cantchell, you out this real, can't tell you all
this real quick post.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
I heard that his postgames.
Speaker 10 (04:29):
I heard Michael Parsons talking about if you take away
the scoreboard, it was a close game, and it took
me back to nineteen ninety three and I stood on
a Arlington Sam Houston practice, I mean game field. They
had just played De Soto, and De Soto had beaten
Arlington Sam Houston sixty three to twenty eight. In former
(04:50):
Texas take running back Byron Handspard had had three touchdown
runs of more than fifty yards, a kickoff return like
a punt return for a touchdown in the late Great Kenos.
He said, aside from the big plays, we shut him down.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He took me back to the time the Cowboys got mala.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Wopped in Denver.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You was there, and and and then would run them off,
all of both, all over them, and they said, if
you take away the big plays, we played good good
old take away the big runs, you take away the scoreboards.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
You take away the big expenses.
Speaker 12 (05:22):
I'm rich other than that, yeah, man, really really yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Now Michael did that one time too, after the forty
nine A game and came up with something line like that.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
So he's it's in his it's in his bag, man,
and and and and and and.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Really it was started because your boy, Mike Leslie No,
his boy asked the question.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Pat Dylan, y'all was holding down really good.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What happened? You know? Passing and think about it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I'm gonna tell you the story within the story because
people see me behind and they're thinking, I'm laughing at Michael.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
You are the question police.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I was laughing at them.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You are the questions, and I'm like, and you, George
Matroda can confirmed because I'm talking to him.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You see, I'm talking to somebody and I'm that two five.
You know what happened to five? Number? Twenty five happened?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know you all right, they talked, they went out
to twenty five. That's what happened for the question police.
So I was laughing at the question and you and
it kind of fit with Michael's answer because that was
something worth laugh worthy too, But.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I wasn't really.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I was like, because I'm telling people we have our
own reindeer games in the media, you know. And I
was laughing at our Routeolph laughing at our route. I
was laughing at it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
What happened?
Speaker 10 (07:02):
What It's the Hoiday season, man.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So I'm back there laughing and I'm like this dude here.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
So that opened the door to he is.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
He is known as Positive Pa, and we love Pat.
He's known as positive Pat.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Uh Pat.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Pat was looking for He looked for the positives. Yeah,
but you I mean, seriously, man, you do real You
are the question police man.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
That's okay, everybody, you are.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
The questions Listen, we listen people talk about my question.
You don't ask questions. You make statements that we've been
doing this for years. It's it's okay. We have our
own little return o awn, little secret society. People talk
about our courts all the time. Y'all.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Don't you know question Jerry?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Y'all don't like we're supposed to argue with Jerry when
Jerry makes it, you're supposed to argue with him, Like
when my open store with Jerry's he was the best gym,
and you just let him say that. What am I
supposed to say, Jared, You're not You're not That's not true.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Jerry.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Let Jerry talk to him right about what Jared said.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I don't need to argue with Jerry about them being
the best damn Jim in the history of the league.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Yeah, a little known. Our jobs do not require us
to have a conversation with them. It requires us to
get quotes out of that, right, I mean, people, are
you you got?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You gotta don't argue back with them. You just let
them say stuff.
Speaker 13 (08:32):
What do you During your time on the beat, which
has been spanned many coaches in decades and presidents, who's
the worst questions?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Who had the worst question?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Starts with Raystone?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Ray Stone? Ray Stone was a his.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I mean, I mean, forgive him the emeritis past if
you want to.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
No, it was probably Nita. But we're not gonna do this.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I just don't want in Paris right now.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
So she she might be listening.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Hey, Bill is important, score touchdown? I mean we we
we got Minny, we love I love neither.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
She yes, I rememberhen she showed up in which top
I was with a parasol.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Yeah, just like a like a kite.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
No, like a like a um Brothers.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
From Savannah, Georgia, Jordan the parasol, Little Southern parasol.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Patrick Walker one of those.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
He's from Savannah, lived the Savannah a long time myself.
Man named my child after that town.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Love that town.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I remember the time she asked Buck Showalter about to
play and bust, Yeah, he's not here anymore. In the
kind parcels want to answer her questions in a kind
way that he would He would not, but yes, thank you.
All right, let's go to uh Star Telegrams future legend
Nick Harris here. So Trey Lance, Yes, why wasn't he
(10:04):
playing in the game? And will he at least start Sunday?
I mean, help me understand this. I don't get the
whole year of fourth rounder and this guy could potentially
walk out of here not playing a significant game.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
In a seventy nine season. Jeff Fisher says, it went
that seventy nine bo Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I would love to know what the thought process is
around Trey Lance from the personnel perspective. Maybe it's a
situation where it's like, hey, we don't want to put
this guy out here. He accidentally performs and then the
price tags a little bit higher here in a few months,
and they have the intention of bringing him back. If
you look at who they would want to back up
Dak on this assumed final contract that he would have
with the team, you look at Cooper Rush at thirty
(10:41):
one years old, Maybe they would like a younger guy
to have back up Dak over these next four years.
If that's the case, Trey Lance makes sense. He's been
in the system. You can develop them over the course
of a couple of years, and if you hide him,
then that price tag is going to be a little
bit cheaper. But other than that, I don't really have
an explanation for it, other than you know, they saw
an opportunity to get into the playoffs before last week.
They wanted to continue to have their best opportunity at winning.
(11:02):
That is a fact that Cooper Rush kIPS them the
best opportunity at winning. But I mean, you look at
some situations in the Eagles game where it was short
yardage opportunities, uh at third and one, fourth and one,
It's a great opportunity for Trey Lance to get in
the game. We're gonna read option try to maximize some
things with his athleticism and and they just weren't able
to find opportunities to get him on the field. He
shocked that it does not happen on Sunday though, you know, uh.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Just piggyback in there because there are other people.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Brian brought us talked about possibly they're hiding Trey Lance
and you know, keeping him, you know, so to keep
the money down. And he brought up him being in
the system and the reason why you could bring him
back and why they're not playing it. You no, no,
what I'm saying that they like it. They want to
bring him back.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Right, who's gonna big coach?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I mean, I mean thank you people what I'm saying, So,
I mean, how did how does that carry water? Make?
What the next coach? Unless you're bringing this coach back.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
If you're bringing this coach back, that's that's that's holding
no conversation and we still need to delve into that
whole Mike McCart the situation.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
But yeah, I mean, you don't play him.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean that it's it's it's I know, we're trying
to be logical and try to make sense.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Of an illogical situation because.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
The idea that you're trying to keep the money down.
He ain't got no market. Yeah, I mean, that's no
market he goes out there. I mean, what's the market
for Trey Lance.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Even if he's going and plays and has a game,
what's the freaking market.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
There's no market exactly, There's not one. And if he
goes out and let's say he accounts for three hundred
and fifty total yards in a.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Game, stop, there's still no market in one day.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That there's no market quarterbacks. Marketing market's gonna be Cooper.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
And it's in a in a league where we've seen
some revivals. I'm not saying that's gonna happen for Trey Lance.
For the league where we've seen some revivals for Sam Darnold,
Baker Mayfield, some other guys who didn't quite work out
in their first opportunities, there's a there's a desire from
teams to go get a young quarterback, to be like, hey,
let me try that problem.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So nick I talked about this on the last show,
that very thing, but then I couched myself saying this,
But Sam Darnold had played significant rights in the league,
and same with Baker Mayfield, who'd won a playoff game.
The problem here is this guy's not giving you anything
to even have a barometer on. And the only thing
(13:20):
I can think of, when you think about, well, who
could go get him, it would have to be somebody
who's coached him and says, well, I.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Know he can do this or that.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
And maybe I'm trying to think who's off the Kyle
Shanahan staff that somewhere now that the OC in New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
But they're all going to possibly be blown out as
well down there. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
And I just think that if you've used up a
fourth round pick and this season ends and this kid
has not even played and started a game, especially on
your seven to nine right now, that tells me I
don't know what you're doing as management. I just that
part to me is it's frustrating because we now know.
I mean, damn Mingo plays.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
More than Trey l And what an awful trade. It's
a wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I mean, what was he doing?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Didn't might talk to him? What was he looking for?
Speaker 6 (14:09):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
No, no, that was that was a great route.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Oh that's that was That was your question in the press.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Conea I asked because I just want to know because
I want to know if it was because the way
Macart looked. I don't know if it was a bad
route or a bad it was a bad pass, bad past, it.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Was a terrible path.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Still still don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I mean, he got on top of the guy he
routed he did.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I mean that was Queen Mitchell, Holly uh chouded rookie
and and cowboys were cooks. Was was riding up sleigh
and and your boy was getting some open on Queen Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
The quarterback did not play well.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
He got out of quintom and obey that's what they
called him.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, I just.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Found that out on Sunday. Apparently they called they called
his little island quintanam obey.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
Shout out to Toledo Barry Church, who's.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Hall of Famer. Good on them, Good on. They won
their bowl game too.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
So the Trey Lance thing is is somewhat baffling here
at this point in time.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I know, it's still just Jerry on the radio.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
How do we feel about Mike coming back versus not
coming back?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Just based on what we're getting from Jerry Jacques. You've
done this before.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
With Jerry, with these coaching searchers in situations.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean, I think I don't know. I mean, that's
really my thing.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
I mean, Jerry moves his lips a lot, and he
says a lot of different things, except.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
For this morning. He was like eerily quiet this morning.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
No, I think the I'm really can't tell you what
I'm rooting for.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I'm rooted with quick me too.
Speaker 10 (15:50):
Yeah, nobody wants to do that chain Gaily, all of
all of at the combine with no coach.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
No, I'm not talking about I'm talking about quick decision
on my car.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
But but yeah, but you but that's after they made
the decision. Talking at quick decision on McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm rooting for McCarthy to be like, I got other opportunities.
I don't want to be here. That's what I'm rooting for,
because that's chaos and I like that.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
You're chaos.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, I got to deal with it.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Got to writing, you know. I think it's in the listen.
I like McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I think he's done a great job, and I think
this sounds like a butt y'all know, y'all know he
ain't Jake Glazier like this.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Right, mm hmm?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
And Tom Pellero you know.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
This right, they're doing them a solid.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Right yep, yes, yes, the same way.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You know, yeah, gonna have all these Come on, you
can't sell my MiG card to the Saints fan base.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
But I mean, seriously, do you think he's trying to
create leverage here?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I mean, because they talking about the same well he
was coaching. Who's the quarterback? Why would you want to.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Go there Jacksonville?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Potentially because there's only thirty two of these.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You know, Mike McCarthy spoke volumes last week, but he said,
you know, I'm at a different point in my career.
Worry about the Sisters coach because he's done, he's been,
They've been to the mountain time. I don't think he's
just chasing a BS job to continued to coach. He
go back to the you know, he said that last week.
You know, he's not chasing no BS job just to
continue to coach, just to say I'm coaching.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
But and that's easy to say when you're currently at
this job.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
But this is the same man who applied for the
Browns job and the Jets job and didn't get the
meed who Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I'm sorry. I think the Browns and just job better.
The situations better Marcus than Jacksonville. And in New Orleans
which has no quarterback, and they got you see, you
see their counts.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
I'm talking about. This is before he came to Downs.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But still even in those situations, there's something there. There's
a history there with with the with certainly with with
Cleveland their fan base. I'm just saying though New Orleans,
if you look at the cap situation, they got to
get rid of everybody I mean that that thing is
and they have no quarterback. You know, that's certainly not
a situation where you anybody I would think wants to
(18:11):
be in.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
So that's about Jerry on the radio this morning, being
as quiet as he was on certain certain answers and
things of that sort. It makes me think that there's
really deep conversations being had with the Jones right now,
and they're gonna have to make a decision early next week,
and in my opinion, they need to have a decision
early next week so they get the ball. Mike Mike
Rabel was available yesterday. That means teams start getting the
(18:32):
ball rolling as early as today if they wanted to
some of these teams that don't have a head coach.
So for example, if that's a guy that they would
like to bring in and look at, then they need
to get the ball rolling on that. But for for
McCarthy's sake, they need to make They need to make
this decision pretty quick and their own.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And to me, if they really care about McCarthy, as
they say that, they will make it.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
They won't let him twist, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And if you if you are fond of him and
he's been a good steward, they don't let him twist.
And Stephen, you know, said on Monday that it will
be done after the Washington game.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Uh Sertainna Jerry said today that he's under no timetable,
you know, but he's gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But I think that they want to do right by
McCarthy and they need to gonna get tomorrowing because you know,
this whole coaching search is not like it used to me,
you got, I mean, it's a whole process. You just
can't make a quick hire anyway, you know, and you
and there are other teams are gonna be looking for coaches.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You need to get out there and get in the.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Mix, you know, because and compete with to the other
team for some for the same candidates.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Take a break here.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
One player who will not be back apparently is going
to be at the door quicker than possibly thought. We'll
do that next with Clarence Hill, Nick Harris, Jon Jack
Taylor new He scrutgs is a mediamational Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 11 (19:48):
How's wing Stop sound Chrispy Juicy, classic Wings, sauce and
tossed that those eleven soul satisfying flavors paired with hand cut,
seasoned fries, housemade honey, mustard, blue cheese or signature Wingstop
ratche I think you've heard enough, you leave it delivered
at Wingstop dot com.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
This is Nate Newton from Hanging with the Boys and
Wingstop is here to bring the flavor to game date
as the official Wings.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Order now, but download the wings Stop out ord and
online at Wingstop dot com.
Speaker 14 (20:18):
Hey Cowboys fans, a twenty twenty four football season is
here and set Gig is here to help you experience
all the action. Seat Gig makes it easier to find tickets,
so you can be a part of all the touchdown
celebrations this season. Whether you're buying or selling tickets at
Cowboys football games or to any other live event, Seat Gig.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Is the place to do it.
Speaker 14 (20:38):
Seat Gig is the official primary ticketing partner of the
Dallas Cowboys, the most disruptive idea ticketing, a ticket that works.
Expect the expected seed geek.
Speaker 15 (20:48):
How about them Cowboys or how about them Tyson Cowboys Nuggets?
As we cheer for the stars on the field, we
love that we've also got some stars on our plate.
Thanks to Tyson Brands star shaped cowboyets.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
They sure make game day special.
Speaker 15 (21:02):
And for every purchase of the new Tyson Cowboys Snuggets
this holiday season, Tyson Foods will donate one dollar to
the Salvation Army up to one hundred thousand dollars. As
you enjoy your stars on and off the plate. Remember,
tailgates and game day have always been Tyson.
Speaker 14 (21:18):
We got big personalities, we got big hair, big bell buckles,
we got fans all across as big state.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
And enemies and every other one.
Speaker 14 (21:26):
We even got a big star on the fifty yard line.
Smeirenov knows football is a wee thing. And experience that
is best enjoyed together with good drinks and good folks.
Home were away. We rally together, we cry together, and
we always rally cry together because most of all we
got big love for them boys.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Smear enough we do game days.
Speaker 14 (21:46):
Please drink responsibly.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Back to medium.
Speaker 16 (21:50):
Mash ahead, somebody.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
This is the media mash brought to you by no one.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Uh well, it is brought to you by eighty fan
chapter of Mail Hill.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Derek Derek Eagleton there all right, so we could come up.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Here and uh Clarence Hill of all City Dallas and
Nick Harrison is the Star Telegram have confirmed the Josina
Anderson initial report that Ezekiel Elliott would be released. So
you all have confirmed this here. So the Cowboys are
letting Zeke go. His days as a Dallas Cowboy are over.
Jack Taylor, they brought Zeke Elliott back this year. I
(22:38):
know you're Buckeye. Zeke's nearing due to your heart even
changed his number to fifteen, which he ran up and
down at and T Stadium and won year last national championship.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
But my son, the fifteen buck ed Jersey run through
the heart.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Of the South.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Yeah, man, how about your characterize this year here as you're.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Here this year. This year is awful.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I mean, there's no other way to say it.
Speaker 11 (23:01):
He was.
Speaker 10 (23:01):
I mean it was off from the jump, really, I
mean he didn't really contribute much. His biggest play was
the fumble he had earlier in the year. I mean
it was it's disappointing.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I mean, I bet if he looked back, he mean,
I bet if he looked back, he'd be like that.
Even came here, I just took it to the crib.
Why you look at me like that?
Speaker 7 (23:21):
He could have gone somewhere else going into the year.
He probably he had options.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
Like I said, it's hard to go home again.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Man, it's hard to spin the blocking.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's hard to go home again.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
The problem with going home again, this is the problem
is and I'm not saying the sequels entitled, but they
treated him like they.
Speaker 10 (23:42):
Still treated him like he was a star, right, and
when they should have treated like when herschel Walker left
and came back, they treated him like, oh, you you
coming back, so you could run down kickoffs and punks everything,
and you can act like a third running back.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
So you go back to training camp. And he didn't
take a lot of reps and they were saving him.
You remember Jerry talking as we know he was right,
you know, we know what z he can do, and
he's gonna south about this, and they had this plan
for him, and.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It was never there. I mean, they never used him.
And and to just.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Rico was the right choice. Rico had been the right choice,
but they never ran Zeke to see what z he
could do.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Anyway, That's just like it was such a weird setup.
Speaker 10 (24:27):
You almost wondered if McCarthy was on board with the
whole way, you know, because they just they just never
really used him well.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And and again, as I said, I don't think the
Cowboys knew what they had in Rico. But that is
another thing is how do you trust what you see
in Rico? Because he's never done it. He's never carred
the low he's in, He's had injury issues, he's never
been healthy. So you don't want to put all your
eggs and we're gonna make Rico the feature back and
(24:59):
and then.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
He can't hold up.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
And so they went in with this plan of trying
to make maximize an old Zeke and a new Rico
with this old running back by community because that's the
best thing we need to do best for the team.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
It's best for the team because they didn't know what
they had.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
There, made so many bad decisions this year, you know.
So that's what the mistake is, not bringing Zeke back
per se. The mistake is how you used it once
you got it.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
It was all of that and then not explaining his
role or telling his role, and then lying about we
communicated this role because Zeke didn't understand. You know, it's
one thing, okay, you don't use then you know, use
the shortyard his back. You know, you told me, you
blew me up and told me you liked what I
did last year, you like what you saw in New England,
and you had a plan for me, and then all
(25:46):
of a sudden, I'm not getting used at all.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
So he did not understand the plan and how it
went out.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And clearly again the Cowboys made the right decision, but
how they came about the decision.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
To go with Rico was flawed, without doubt. Yeah. Well,
and you know they were talking about you know Zeke.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
You know, he was you know, trying to get the
twin door sets the second all the time lead rush
and I was a touchdown score excuse me.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
You know, he came in with goals.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I he came in a goal, wanted to get a
thousand yards, wanted to get closer to ten thousand yards,
certainly wanted to move up on the chart in Cowboys history.
As far as rushing touchdowns, you know, none of it
came to rush. And then you got to depart in
the season, we was left home because he was being
tardy at the meetings and and what over else, you know,
common sense that they probably should have cut him the inn.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yes, uh, Zeke this year seventy four attempts for two
hundred and twenty six yards.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
And three touchdowns.
Speaker 11 (26:44):
Guess what though.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
More than you thought. But also I just go back
into we went back.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
We're back here on the players lounge, and I had
penciled in Zeke for four hundred and sixty five yards rush.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
M I didn't think. I did not.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I was not a fan of this move, and I
didn't think it would turn out. Well, I just didn't
think it would turn out this back.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
I think, you know, I think it's a it's just
a weird deal because I was a obviously I was
a huge fan of Zeke at Ohio State and I
thought they should have taken in the draft when he fell,
because I was like, oh, you put a great.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Running behind a great line, you should be able to
really do some things. And they did.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
But his career, I mean, you just thought he was
headed to the Hall of Fame after his first three season. Sure, sure,
And that whole suspension thing, it's like his thing was
just out of whack. Ever ever since that thing, ever
since that happened, his career was just kind of out
of whack.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
It wasn't the same. And it also just, at.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Least in my opinion, he went from being this beloved guy. Yeah,
and then you have to say Patrick's day stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
You just had things where he.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I always like to say, it's interest around who we
choose to condemn and who we choose to forget and
people I thought some of the public hadn't. They didn't
really forgive him, and things had changed. And then when
he held the remember he could call the lawsuits in
the court here and there. Instead of just taking it
and just going through with it, he let it affect him.
(28:16):
But I never regretted the drafting. I thought that was
the right thing to do, and it proved early on
it was the second contract where they really messed up
because they changed the rules right like not, I mean
it was maybe months later they changed the rules and
(28:37):
so had they just made him play on it.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
He did never have that leverage. And maybe they don't
even give him a second countract. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
But bringing him back after New England I thought was
a mistake. Bill Parcels Callbo was like this progress stoppers.
We saw it with Jason Witting when he came back.
Sometimes you just got to hey man, thank you, thank you.
But he didn't really progress because they still let Rico go.
The problem here is that.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
One they didn't get a draft once, they didn't drafted
running back. They were desperate to to trying to find
somebody to run with Rico, and and and and Zeke
was out there because they didn't go after running back
and free agency, which you know there were others out
there they could have gone after.
Speaker 11 (29:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And it goes back to Trey last deal.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
You know you tried that for that fourth round pick,
you for Trey Lass, you know, went after right after him.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, but Eric, what do you do this year?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Pretty damn good?
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Ten more yards Rico?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, and he didn't and he did the start and
he I mean, you know, but he could have.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Been you know, the back you picked could have been
your future.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, your future because you're now going to have to
go into the draft is ship free agency and try
to find find find some help now and.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
There are a lot of backs, so you can draft
it back. I mean this, this drafted loaded him backs.
But we're talking about this season and decision made for
this season part of the to make for this.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
There's no doubt that a mistake was made on in
free agency one draft to another and then it left
you with this. But I still I do wonder if
you hooked Mike McCarthy was some truth serve? Did he
even want Ezekiel Ellet back?
Speaker 7 (30:16):
The full story of Ezekiel Elliott does a Cowboys want
to be a complicated history. That will be an interesting
story one day, but.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
A deep blue.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
It'll be the last. It'll be the last time he
leaves here. At least he didn't leave as a center.
He left as a running back.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So wow, that's a thing.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
That's a good thing to take a break.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Could have been his last nap.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
He went back to center on those Redding Well, I
tell you your own.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
People, medium Ash be right back Cowboys dot Com. Hey
Cowboy fans.
Speaker 17 (30:56):
I'm Dak Prescott, quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, but lately
I've been learning in a new game. Crypto sound confusing,
don't worry. Even us pros were rookies and crypto once.
That's why I trust blockchain dot Com. They make crypto easy,
no confusing jargon, just the tools to help you win.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Prescott keats it slides with a first.
Speaker 17 (31:13):
Down, investigate your icons where everyone is a rook in
crypto with blockchain dot Com perfect throw.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
My goodness, wow did he ever thread the needle?
Speaker 17 (31:21):
Visit blockchain dot com Slash Cowboys to get started.
Speaker 15 (31:25):
Fall is here, and that means football is back, bringing
all the delicious game day foods with it as you
prep for all the big games, tailgates and watch parties.
Let Yo Kiero be your one stop destination for all
things homegating. Yo Kierro's fresh, flavorful, ready to serve guacamolele
made with real hals avocados will score taste bud touchdowns
as you cheer on the Cowboys. Yo Kiro's wide range
(31:48):
of mouthwatering and versatile products can be found in your
local grocery stores, produce or deli section.
Speaker 14 (31:53):
Grab some today. Hey Cowboys fans, a twenty twenty four
football season is here, and seat gig is here to
help you experience all the action. Seed Gig makes it
easy to find tickets so you can be a part
of all the touchdown celebrations this season. Whether you're buying
or selling tickets at Cowboys football games or to any
other live event, seed gig is the place to do it.
(32:15):
Seed Gig is the official primary ticketing partner of the
Dallas Cowboys, the most disruptive idea in ticketing a ticket
that works, expect the expected seed Geek.
Speaker 15 (32:25):
How about them Cowboys or how about them Tyson Cowboys Nuggets?
As we cheer for the stars on the field, we
love that we've also got some stars on our plate.
Thanks to Tyson Brands star shaped Cowboys Nuggets. They sure
make game day special. And for every purchase of the
new Tyson Cowboys Nuggets this holiday season, Tyson Foods will
donate one dollar to the Salvation Army up to one
(32:47):
hundred thousand dollars. As you enjoy your stars on and
off the plate. Remember, tailgates and game day have always
been Tyson.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Two media mash.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That sounds like a tag media mash right here on
Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
What sounds like that there, sir, claims Hill.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
The cares sounds like your spin is what it sounded like.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
So is there a statement out on Ezekiel Elliott?
Speaker 10 (33:20):
Sir, No, there's no statement, But it's one of those
deals where everybody seemed to have called the same person
because they all got the same.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
We Zeke was released to help him join the playoff team.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
If that's not the issue.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yes, he was released because he wanted to join the
playoff team. It's the outer respect and appreciation.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
For his services over the top that. I mean, we
all know what's the dirty game. We just cut him, Okay,
I mean what it is that.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
They didn't have to cut him. They didn't have to
release him. It is out of respect for his time.
That is a fact.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
It's the final game of I know. I'm just saying
that they should be playing. Okay, they shouldn't even be
should he be playing? That's that's my point. I mean,
he's like, come on, what are they gonna do with it?
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Right? They didn't want to make him in active.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The money is the same. Yeah, he might have been
in the act. It was time.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
If you're not gonna play Duce, now when you're gonna play,
it's like the trade last thing.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
Come on, Deuce was done once McCarthy didn't have five
after that big win other day, stop it was.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean, but at this point, like last week, I'm
see him once once they're out of the playoffs, tell
you why was not? Why Wasduce not the one the
primary back? I mean, probably because Turp has been your
backup tail back.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Yeah, they've they've found more since being out of the
playoff race with Turp and then than anyone else other
than Rico.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Right, but what's the I mean, CD was the running
back before the turping.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
It was RB two. He was one hundred R two.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, so Duce can't play, Okay, I put it out there, Okay,
But my point is, why is he active for one
snap two snaps a game?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Wh was the active last two or three weeks?
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Out of respect?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Out of respect, the same reason why they're cutting them
out of respect for his tenure.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Deuce really can't play, and so we need got there.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
That's all we're talking about.
Speaker 15 (35:12):
It.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
It makes me think of the media media scrum we
had last week when Zeke walked by and Clarence said, hey,
come on, we can get you and and he kept going.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
So it's very it's just very different of what what
once was. When he first came in here.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
I remember talking to Darren Woodson, who was here working
at ESPN on that draft day, wondering if they would
take Ezekiel Elliott. And they had the draft over at
at and T Stadium and Zeke wanted to be here
and it started off great. But this is the nature
of football. Jock's always told me, you know, sports is fluid.
And it started off You're thinking he's putting up his
(35:50):
first the first three years he was putting up those
Hall of Fame type This is the kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Write this down here. You need a couple of those rushing.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Ring type numbers. Yes, you know, two times two time
rushing champion won't make the Ring of honor.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah, and if the suspension probably would have been three.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, right now, he's not making ring line, that's my point.
But a two time rushing infl Russian champ that's I've
heard of, you would think, right, third all time in
Russian Cowboys history.
Speaker 15 (36:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
But his career was a slow dissent.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
He is the first running back in of our history
to have I hate that stack. It's a crazy stack.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I hate it.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
I can't stand it really because what is the stat then,
now that he had descending yards per averaging yards per
carry every year of his career, every year.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Of his career. Nobody, not one other back.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Now some of that is she said the numbers so
high initially, so really, initially, that is it?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
How about the last five years?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I said initially that means at the beginning the theater.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Read this statement from Cowboys owner president and general manager
Gerald Wayne Jones.
Speaker 10 (37:02):
Let me get my handkerchief hold tech out of respect
and appreciation for Zeke.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Oh, it did come from the pr butt.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
And wanting to provide him with an opportunity to pursue
any potential playoff participation possible.
Speaker 10 (37:18):
So ain't nobody cause we just hoping and praying. We
are releasing him from the Cowboys roster today. As I've
said many times previously, Hey, Christian Champson music.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
For this, Read this, give us some violins.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Zeke's impact as one of the greatest to ever play
with the star on his on their helmet will never change,
and it's etched in our record books in history forever.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
But we didn't want them tell that record.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
We thank him, love him, and wish him the absolute
best from your owner from America's team, Gerald Wayne Jones
put that in your story, and Nick put that in
your story.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
It's getting plugged in right now. That that's one hundred
and fifty words.
Speaker 16 (38:04):
You kidding.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Take that with you. Take that with you there, you go,
tweet this over here.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
To my people.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
I'll take the reins. Jerry Jones being u having the
opportunity in the draft to pivot on getting a running
back or firing on one, and then always pivoting the
conversation back to Zeke. It was telling of their relationship
at that point. Even after that they the first time
that they had divorced a couple of years ago, but
being able to bring him back he I think initially
(38:36):
Jerry saw a big role for him this year. I
do they would have drafted one.
Speaker 10 (38:40):
There's no place for sentimentality in his game percent right,
This zero place for it, and this organization has way
too much of it.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
This has always been my challenge. I would tell people
about the owner also being the general manager. You want
your owner to look at the glass and say it's
half full. That is some pure pH water, good for you.
But I need my general manager to look at that
water to say, I think the glass is cracked. I
don't know what the water is dirty? Was that glass
fully clean? And we may need to go think about
(39:10):
it as another glass around the corner that we need
to replace it with. But the general manager will always
lose to the optimistic owner. And I always believed that
Mike McCarthy was okay with Zeke being gone. Yeah, as
Skip Pete also went out the door as a running
back coach and Jeff Blasco took over. I'm not so
sure about him coming back. And then of course they
(39:33):
sent him home, then take him to a game. Talked
about mis meetings. There are issues there this year, and
that's where the sentiment comes in because actuality. If Jimmy's
coaching his team, not only would Zke not have made
the plane, Zeke, he'd have been gone, thank you for
your services, You're gone, but he was still here. And
(39:53):
then what was he doing while he was here? We're
finding situations where we weren't even getting the ball sometimes.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Jerry talked about on the radio show today how he
he misfired on the offensive line.
Speaker 10 (40:07):
It seems to me like, and I said this at
the very beginning, why would you How could you think
that they were you draft guys. You changed their positions,
and then you plug them in and you act all
surprised when they're not good right off the rip more
than one.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah, like, get over the skis.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You've been over your skis a few times before. Heaven
when you got over your ski just made over you.
You know when you get over your skis, No, you
fall down.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
It just don't sense to me.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Man, you get never problem. You fall out when you
get off your ski.
Speaker 14 (40:41):
What do you do?
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Lindy, I don't know. I watched I know when I
want used.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
To watch The Wild World of Sports. They were too
far over their ski with the dude.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
All I know is the ski lift tickets, Chris Bean
know them. Ski lift tickets cost too much. So my
children went on the ski lift ticket.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
No I'm not going. I'm gonna save some money on skin.
I just paid for them to go.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
I thought I wanted to go skiing, and then I
had to put the ski boots on. It's too claustrophobic.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
That's that's not me.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
It's a whole bunch of and I'll tell you my
worst experience doing that was the twenty ten Olympics. I
was covering the Olympics at the Van Cooper Olympics, and
I was covering some ski some skiing events, and so
you had to take this whatever you call it thing
(41:27):
over there, okay. And I got in with the great
Kate Heroppolos from Dallas More News, and I had my
backpack on.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Bad move because.
Speaker 10 (41:37):
Now you're leaning forward the whole time because you couldn't
put the bar down once it started taking off, and
I'm scared of heights. So that was the longest trip
up the mountain I'd ever been on because I thought
it was gonna fall off the whole time.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I thought it was thought it was. I thought this
was a story by skiing.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Did I had got.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
You know?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I mean, we had the boss team. He was hold up, damn,
Parris Wheel, your author. But I was not Wait and
Robert from.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Manius Jeff Fishing with that seventy.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Nine boo.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Beyond people, man, start beyond people.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
That's your story, man, that's my story.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
That's why I don't show up on the question for
your story, police, You'll be the question police story.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
That's funny studies.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I really thought it was my skin. It was they
had a god, they had this bigger, big old skate
slope tore my knee.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
I told my when I was down.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
And then I'm like, I never heard of jock go
sk I know where the was that.
Speaker 11 (42:54):
He gave me?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
There looked because he gave me. He definitely gave me
a look like whoa is this going.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Anyway? That's why he took you on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
The bottom Zeke's gone today? Well who else is gone?
After Sunday?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
And we haven't even got into make Zimmer and you
were there Mike Zerra getting all cinema.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Cry talking about he didn't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
We didn't, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
You know what, when you get older, you get more cinema.
I mean this is this has just been a different
Zener than we had back in the day. He don't
cuss anymore. My personal talked about last Zimon on screen.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
He just you know, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
He barely talks above a whisper. He really has not
been effusive with us. And yesterday when he found out
this was gonna be the last time they talked to us.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
He decided to open up.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:49):
He asked on the podiums like, this is probably the
last time, right, and they were like, yeah, then you
were right. After that, there was a clear kind of change.
He had mentioned about how important this year was for
him for his son Adam, who passed a couple of
years ago, and Jock. You could probably speak more to it,
but from people that I knew on that Jackson State staff,
whenever he was a consultant there, whenever that moment happened,
(44:10):
it was obviously a big thing that happened in his life.
And uh, to have a different demeanor after that, it's
it's expected, and you know, being able to get back
in the game of football for his son this year
was huge. It was important for him. He said in
his first presser when he first arrived here in Dallas
that he needed the game of football back. And you've
seen what the game of football has done to him
because sometimes in those pressers he's energetic, he's into it,
(44:32):
and you can see, you know, how locked in he is,
and then at other times you kind of see this
game can still be taxing, it can still it can
still take from you. And you wonder how all of
that will play into his decision to even want to
come back if he's allowed back.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Wall Nice had a lot of tragedy.
Speaker 10 (44:46):
His wife died unexpectedly out of the blue one day,
and my son died unexpectedly, and so that's a lot
of tragedy for for anybody.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Man.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
We we all, we we all we watched Adam grow
up and Chris Bean, you know, we saw him, man.
Speaker 10 (45:01):
And uh, yeah, and I stayed in touch with Adam
over years, Like I probably texted him two or three
times a year about various things, some just making a
comment if I talked to his old man or something,
and uh, because uh, because we had seen him. And
then I did a couple of stories on him when
he was with the Saints and they went to the
super Bowl and some other stuff and it was a
(45:22):
good dude. And uh, you know, I remember texting him
when they got the job in Minnesota. He was how
happy he was for his dad to finally get it,
get a crack at it job. And uh, you know
the thing about Jackson State is his cousin Andrew was
on that staff, and so so there was always a
lot to talk about little Zim and UH and Zimmer
because his uh, his cousin was there and so we
(45:44):
talked about HM quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yep, rest in peace, Adam. Yeah, it's still one of
those that I remember the news. And it was just
hard because we watched him, know it was ball boy
man and become a coach and for real, man like
happy for him too, like hey, man, out of shot,
he's doing his things. And and then of course you
know Jim's wife pass away.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
That was tough. And then you find out that he
had some struggles too, and it was just it was
just tough. It was tough.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
I men, you get around folks and you'll you when
you get to do this as long as we have,
you're gonna be that same way. Man, You're just kind
of like like damn. And so you know when you
root for Zimmer the bottom line, you know, at the
end of the day, we do a job. But man,
we want Mike to seek Mike's a good guy and
just and you just know people like that.
Speaker 14 (46:25):
Man.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
He's he's carrying some stuff.
Speaker 14 (46:27):
Man.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I don't know, I don't know how you carry it,
but he's carrying some stuff, man, And uh, whether he's
back here or not, I will always root for Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 7 (46:34):
The person don't want to see good people do good.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
He held on to that text for matter man. I
hear you, bro, I hear I hear it. Life is precious.
We could be here today and going today. That's how
it is these days. So hey, well, let's end.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
This year on this high note here.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
I appreciate all you. This has been great to be
able to do the media mash. We will ride on Thursday.
Let's take tomorrow off. We'll root for you, sir, Thank you,
thank you, r for.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Me, tomorrow for you. And happy birthday everybody, Happy birthday.
That knew he had a birthday yesterday he turned.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
And root for me.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Turned.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
I was a root for you too.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Okay, you know, you know, you know I have.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
I have a soft spot in my heart for Ryan
Day because your fan base, your fan base, everybody treating
John like he John Cooper.
Speaker 10 (47:21):
I mean, I'm sorry, man to stuff that you need
to interrupt the birthday. Praise man, praise you know that's sorry.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
We route because I got a new birthday, brother, Nick.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
We were rooting for the buck guys, room for the guys.
The Long Horns and Stadium.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
And the boat.
Speaker 18 (47:37):
Jan fifthers over here, that's right January fifth, right there
we root for l s U. So yeah, there you
go by by birthday time, birthday, Capricorn time. The grinders,
it's true street learn from us man.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
I'm a he's a that's a different kind of grinder,
a little more emotional.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
Old bull, the old bull walk down the hill. I'd
hear you are a runner down here. You're running here,
you run down tex Star down the If you.
Speaker 7 (48:08):
Go back about forty five years in Schulingberg, Texas to him,
he's been he was.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Running, he running all day.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
I'm old boy. Now walked out here. Yeah, it's not
gonna finish it.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
In the hill, leaving you in Beibo at Home clas Hill,
Nick Harris, Jan Jacck Taylor, New Restours for Jazz, Chris
and everyone has been a part of Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
The Media match of twenty twenty four, Happy New Year,
Seeing twenty twenty five.
Speaker 14 (48:33):
This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Cowboys This is.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and
offering sizzling takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Now your host new He scrugs.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Medium ash on New Year's Eve. People working getting things
done tomorrow. Don't look for certain folks because they won't
be here. They'll be out there doing doing their thing.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Jack Taylor's here, Nick Harris is here. You have so
it's most work on the.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Tuesday is ours? What is work like?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
What is it like? Scruggs feel good on Tuesday? Make
it Tuesday. We've expanded it today.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Kaiser sources allowed one day only change do what welcome?
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Nick?
Speaker 7 (01:04):
How you doing man?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I'm blessed man. You don't know you know you really?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Clarence is allowed Jack to return on Tuesday and the
mixture as well.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Show this show is sponsible.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Don't don't don't feed into the I mean these my brother.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
My brothers right here, and they fired me on the
TUESDA that wasn't here.
Speaker 7 (01:28):
That's crazy fired l.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Don't don't feed in. I got fired on the tubes questions,
don't feed into.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
The who called you to come into that?
Speaker 8 (01:39):
It's true, true, don't even don't even don't you can.
Speaker 9 (01:50):
Clean know he said a group live on your fingernails.
I know he said a group texting. I don't know
why you did this. You said a group texts. Find
somebody you.
Speaker 10 (02:01):
Said that, Oh are you sent a text message?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And now you're gonna can we can we just talk about.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
He got receipts on you.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You can send the group text message. It ain't even
you don't know why you're doing this.
Speaker 10 (02:15):
This is what we talk about when the cowboys have
nothing to play for but pry into the last week
of disease.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Niggas good to happen, Shot, thanks for coming in for
playing my brother. Hey, thank you very much, Thank you
very much. I keep calling Tiger Woods to say, let's
celebrate every on returning. I don't even think about calling
Lebron ain't happening. Bo Diddley's dead, so I can't talk
to him on the thirty. If Sandy Kofax is just
saying he's kind of boring like me, so.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Is he is?
Speaker 11 (02:44):
Man?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I did not know that. I did not know that.
Speaker 10 (02:46):
You can't tell he's got that Capricorn grind. He got
twenty seven.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Jobs mine on Sunday, so feel free.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It is that man, the fifth niggas a grinder.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Two man, I was the.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Fifth for real.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
Look at this? Look at this Joe Trahan.
Speaker 10 (03:04):
Black, Joe Traf right, yeah, all before Jason, did I know?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I like this.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I like this kid.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Guys was having a party before y'all to the capitol.
Huh right, hey stop that. Let's dive into the final, final, final, final,
final regular season game for the Dallas Cowboys twenty twenty
four season. It will be at Jerry World. The Washington
Commanders come to town up there. They call it Dallas Week. Here,
we just call it the end.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That the end this boys, men, the question is the
end of what you know and you know?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Is it the end? Or will it be a continuation?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
So Kayser source say, you jumped off right where I
was gonna go one O five three the fan today
Jerry Jones has the radio show and just was very
noncommittal about Mike McCartney, the head coach.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
So that leads me to.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Believe, gentlemen, right now, coming off this Philadelphia game, because
it was good vibes after beating Tampa Bay.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
The vibes is not good.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
After forty one to seven, blowed out, lost to Philly, getting.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Ready to face dan Quinn Washington.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Who you take if you take away the scoreboard? It
was a close game.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Okay, Cantchell, you out this real, can't tell you all
this real quick post.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
I heard that his postgames.
Speaker 10 (04:29):
I heard Michael Parsons talking about if you take away
the scoreboard, it was a close game, and it took
me back to nineteen ninety three and I stood on
a Arlington Sam Houston practice, I mean game field. They
had just played De Soto, and De Soto had beaten
Arlington Sam Houston sixty three to twenty eight. In former
(04:50):
Texas take running back Byron Handspard had had three touchdown
runs of more than fifty yards, a kickoff return like
a punt return for a touchdown in the late Great Kenos.
He said, aside from the big plays, we shut him down.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He took me back to the time the Cowboys got mala.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Wopped in Denver.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You was there, and and and then would run them off,
all of both, all over them, and they said, if
you take away the big plays, we played good good
old take away the big runs, you take away the scoreboards.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
You take away the big expenses.
Speaker 12 (05:22):
I'm rich other than that, yeah, man, really really yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Now Michael did that one time too, after the forty
nine A game and came up with something line like that.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
So he's it's in his it's in his bag, man,
and and and and and and.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Really it was started because your boy, Mike Leslie No,
his boy asked the question.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Pat Dylan, y'all was holding down really good.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What happened? You know? Passing and think about it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I'm gonna tell you the story within the story because
people see me behind and they're thinking, I'm laughing at Michael.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
You are the question police.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I was laughing at them.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You are the questions, and I'm like, and you, George
Matroda can confirmed because I'm talking to him.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You see, I'm talking to somebody and I'm that two five.
You know what happened to five? Number? Twenty five happened?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know you all right, they talked, they went out
to twenty five. That's what happened for the question police.
So I was laughing at the question and you and
it kind of fit with Michael's answer because that was
something worth laugh worthy too, But.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I wasn't really.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I was like, because I'm telling people we have our
own reindeer games in the media, you know. And I
was laughing at our Routeolph laughing at our route. I
was laughing at it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
What happened?
Speaker 10 (07:02):
What It's the Hoiday season, man.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So I'm back there laughing and I'm like this dude here.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
So that opened the door to he is.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
He is known as Positive Pa, and we love Pat.
He's known as positive Pat.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Uh Pat.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Pat was looking for He looked for the positives. Yeah,
but you I mean, seriously, man, you do real You
are the question police man.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
That's okay, everybody, you are.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
The questions Listen, we listen people talk about my question.
You don't ask questions. You make statements that we've been
doing this for years. It's it's okay. We have our
own little return o awn, little secret society. People talk
about our courts all the time. Y'all.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Don't you know question Jerry?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Y'all don't like we're supposed to argue with Jerry when
Jerry makes it, you're supposed to argue with him, Like
when my open store with Jerry's he was the best gym,
and you just let him say that. What am I
supposed to say, Jared, You're not You're not That's not true.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Jerry.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Let Jerry talk to him right about what Jared said.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I don't need to argue with Jerry about them being
the best damn Jim in the history of the league.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Yeah, a little known. Our jobs do not require us
to have a conversation with them. It requires us to
get quotes out of that, right, I mean, people, are
you you got?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You gotta don't argue back with them. You just let
them say stuff.
Speaker 13 (08:32):
What do you During your time on the beat, which
has been spanned many coaches in decades and presidents, who's
the worst questions?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Who had the worst question?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Starts with Raystone?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Ray Stone? Ray Stone was a his.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I mean, I mean, forgive him the emeritis past if
you want to.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
No, it was probably Nita. But we're not gonna do this.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I just don't want in Paris right now.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
So she she might be listening.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Hey, Bill is important, score touchdown? I mean we we
we got Minny, we love I love neither.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
She yes, I rememberhen she showed up in which top
I was with a parasol.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Yeah, just like a like a kite.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
No, like a like a um Brothers.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
From Savannah, Georgia, Jordan the parasol, Little Southern parasol.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Patrick Walker one of those.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
He's from Savannah, lived the Savannah a long time myself.
Man named my child after that town.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Love that town.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I remember the time she asked Buck Showalter about to
play and bust, Yeah, he's not here anymore. In the
kind parcels want to answer her questions in a kind
way that he would He would not, but yes, thank you.
All right, let's go to uh Star Telegrams future legend
Nick Harris here. So Trey Lance, Yes, why wasn't he
(10:04):
playing in the game? And will he at least start Sunday?
I mean, help me understand this. I don't get the
whole year of fourth rounder and this guy could potentially
walk out of here not playing a significant game.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
In a seventy nine season. Jeff Fisher says, it went
that seventy nine bo Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I would love to know what the thought process is
around Trey Lance from the personnel perspective. Maybe it's a
situation where it's like, hey, we don't want to put
this guy out here. He accidentally performs and then the
price tags a little bit higher here in a few months,
and they have the intention of bringing him back. If
you look at who they would want to back up
Dak on this assumed final contract that he would have
with the team, you look at Cooper Rush at thirty
(10:41):
one years old, Maybe they would like a younger guy
to have back up Dak over these next four years.
If that's the case, Trey Lance makes sense. He's been
in the system. You can develop them over the course
of a couple of years, and if you hide him,
then that price tag is going to be a little
bit cheaper. But other than that, I don't really have
an explanation for it, other than you know, they saw
an opportunity to get into the playoffs before last week.
They wanted to continue to have their best opportunity at winning.
(11:02):
That is a fact that Cooper Rush kIPS them the
best opportunity at winning. But I mean, you look at
some situations in the Eagles game where it was short
yardage opportunities, uh at third and one, fourth and one,
It's a great opportunity for Trey Lance to get in
the game. We're gonna read option try to maximize some
things with his athleticism and and they just weren't able
to find opportunities to get him on the field. He
shocked that it does not happen on Sunday though, you know, uh.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Just piggyback in there because there are other people.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Brian brought us talked about possibly they're hiding Trey Lance
and you know, keeping him, you know, so to keep
the money down. And he brought up him being in
the system and the reason why you could bring him
back and why they're not playing it. You no, no,
what I'm saying that they like it. They want to
bring him back.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Right, who's gonna big coach?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I mean, I mean thank you people what I'm saying, So,
I mean, how did how does that carry water? Make?
What the next coach? Unless you're bringing this coach back.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
If you're bringing this coach back, that's that's that's holding
no conversation and we still need to delve into that
whole Mike McCart the situation.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
But yeah, I mean, you don't play him.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean that it's it's it's I know, we're trying
to be logical and try to make sense.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Of an illogical situation because.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
The idea that you're trying to keep the money down.
He ain't got no market. Yeah, I mean, that's no
market he goes out there. I mean, what's the market
for Trey Lance.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Even if he's going and plays and has a game,
what's the freaking market.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
There's no market exactly, There's not one. And if he
goes out and let's say he accounts for three hundred
and fifty total yards in a.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Game, stop, there's still no market in one day.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That there's no market quarterbacks. Marketing market's gonna be Cooper.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
And it's in a in a league where we've seen
some revivals. I'm not saying that's gonna happen for Trey Lance.
For the league where we've seen some revivals for Sam Darnold,
Baker Mayfield, some other guys who didn't quite work out
in their first opportunities, there's a there's a desire from
teams to go get a young quarterback, to be like, hey,
let me try that problem.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So nick I talked about this on the last show,
that very thing, but then I couched myself saying this,
But Sam Darnold had played significant rights in the league,
and same with Baker Mayfield, who'd won a playoff game.
The problem here is this guy's not giving you anything
to even have a barometer on. And the only thing
(13:20):
I can think of, when you think about, well, who
could go get him, it would have to be somebody
who's coached him and says, well, I.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Know he can do this or that.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
And maybe I'm trying to think who's off the Kyle
Shanahan staff that somewhere now that the OC in New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
But they're all going to possibly be blown out as
well down there. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
And I just think that if you've used up a
fourth round pick and this season ends and this kid
has not even played and started a game, especially on
your seven to nine right now, that tells me I
don't know what you're doing as management. I just that
part to me is it's frustrating because we now know.
I mean, damn Mingo plays.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
More than Trey l And what an awful trade. It's
a wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I mean, what was he doing?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Didn't might talk to him? What was he looking for?
Speaker 6 (14:09):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
No, no, that was that was a great route.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Oh that's that was That was your question in the press.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Conea I asked because I just want to know because
I want to know if it was because the way
Macart looked. I don't know if it was a bad
route or a bad it was a bad pass, bad past, it.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Was a terrible path.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Still still don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I mean, he got on top of the guy he
routed he did.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I mean that was Queen Mitchell, Holly uh chouded rookie
and and cowboys were cooks. Was was riding up sleigh
and and your boy was getting some open on Queen Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
The quarterback did not play well.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
He got out of quintom and obey that's what they
called him.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, I just.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Found that out on Sunday. Apparently they called they called
his little island quintanam obey.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
Shout out to Toledo Barry Church, who's.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Hall of Famer. Good on them, Good on. They won
their bowl game too.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
So the Trey Lance thing is is somewhat baffling here
at this point in time.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I know, it's still just Jerry on the radio.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
How do we feel about Mike coming back versus not
coming back?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Just based on what we're getting from Jerry Jacques. You've
done this before.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
With Jerry, with these coaching searchers in situations.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean, I think I don't know. I mean, that's
really my thing.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
I mean, Jerry moves his lips a lot, and he
says a lot of different things, except.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
For this morning. He was like eerily quiet this morning.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
No, I think the I'm really can't tell you what
I'm rooting for.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I'm rooted with quick me too.
Speaker 10 (15:50):
Yeah, nobody wants to do that chain Gaily, all of
all of at the combine with no coach.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
No, I'm not talking about I'm talking about quick decision
on my car.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
But but yeah, but you but that's after they made
the decision. Talking at quick decision on McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm rooting for McCarthy to be like, I got other opportunities.
I don't want to be here. That's what I'm rooting for,
because that's chaos and I like that.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
You're chaos.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, I got to deal with it.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Got to writing, you know. I think it's in the listen.
I like McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I think he's done a great job, and I think
this sounds like a butt y'all know, y'all know he
ain't Jake Glazier like this.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Right, mm hmm?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
And Tom Pellero you know.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
This right, they're doing them a solid.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Right yep, yes, yes, the same way.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You know, yeah, gonna have all these Come on, you
can't sell my MiG card to the Saints fan base.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
But I mean, seriously, do you think he's trying to
create leverage here?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I mean, because they talking about the same well he
was coaching. Who's the quarterback? Why would you want to.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Go there Jacksonville?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Potentially because there's only thirty two of these.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You know, Mike McCarthy spoke volumes last week, but he said,
you know, I'm at a different point in my career.
Worry about the Sisters coach because he's done, he's been,
They've been to the mountain time. I don't think he's
just chasing a BS job to continued to coach. He
go back to the you know, he said that last week.
You know, he's not chasing no BS job just to
continue to coach, just to say I'm coaching.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
But and that's easy to say when you're currently at
this job.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
But this is the same man who applied for the
Browns job and the Jets job and didn't get the
meed who Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I'm sorry. I think the Browns and just job better.
The situations better Marcus than Jacksonville. And in New Orleans
which has no quarterback, and they got you see, you
see their counts.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
I'm talking about. This is before he came to Downs.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But still even in those situations, there's something there. There's
a history there with with the with certainly with with
Cleveland their fan base. I'm just saying though New Orleans,
if you look at the cap situation, they got to
get rid of everybody I mean that that thing is
and they have no quarterback. You know, that's certainly not
a situation where you anybody I would think wants to
(18:11):
be in.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
So that's about Jerry on the radio this morning, being
as quiet as he was on certain certain answers and
things of that sort. It makes me think that there's
really deep conversations being had with the Jones right now,
and they're gonna have to make a decision early next week,
and in my opinion, they need to have a decision
early next week so they get the ball. Mike Mike
Rabel was available yesterday. That means teams start getting the
(18:32):
ball rolling as early as today if they wanted to
some of these teams that don't have a head coach.
So for example, if that's a guy that they would
like to bring in and look at, then they need
to get the ball rolling on that. But for for
McCarthy's sake, they need to make They need to make
this decision pretty quick and their own.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And to me, if they really care about McCarthy, as
they say that, they will make it.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
They won't let him twist, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And if you if you are fond of him and
he's been a good steward, they don't let him twist.
And Stephen, you know, said on Monday that it will
be done after the Washington game.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Uh Sertainna Jerry said today that he's under no timetable,
you know, but he's gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But I think that they want to do right by
McCarthy and they need to gonna get tomorrowing because you know,
this whole coaching search is not like it used to me,
you got, I mean, it's a whole process. You just
can't make a quick hire anyway, you know, and you
and there are other teams are gonna be looking for coaches.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You need to get out there and get in the.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Mix, you know, because and compete with to the other
team for some for the same candidates.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Take a break here.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
One player who will not be back apparently is going
to be at the door quicker than possibly thought. We'll
do that next with Clarence Hill, Nick Harris, Jon Jack
Taylor new He scrutgs is a mediamational Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 11 (19:48):
How's wing Stop sound Chrispy Juicy, classic Wings, sauce and
tossed that those eleven soul satisfying flavors paired with hand cut,
seasoned fries, housemade honey, mustard, blue cheese or signature Wingstop
ratche I think you've heard enough, you leave it delivered
at Wingstop dot com.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
This is Nate Newton from Hanging with the Boys and
Wingstop is here to bring the flavor to game date
as the official Wings.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Order now, but download the wings Stop out ord and
online at Wingstop dot com.
Speaker 14 (20:18):
Hey Cowboys fans, a twenty twenty four football season is
here and set Gig is here to help you experience
all the action. Seat Gig makes it easier to find tickets,
so you can be a part of all the touchdown
celebrations this season. Whether you're buying or selling tickets at
Cowboys football games or to any other live event, Seat Gig.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Is the place to do it.
Speaker 14 (20:38):
Seat Gig is the official primary ticketing partner of the
Dallas Cowboys, the most disruptive idea ticketing, a ticket that works.
Expect the expected seed geek.
Speaker 15 (20:48):
How about them Cowboys or how about them Tyson Cowboys Nuggets?
As we cheer for the stars on the field, we
love that we've also got some stars on our plate.
Thanks to Tyson Brands star shaped cowboyets.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
They sure make game day special.
Speaker 15 (21:02):
And for every purchase of the new Tyson Cowboys Snuggets
this holiday season, Tyson Foods will donate one dollar to
the Salvation Army up to one hundred thousand dollars. As
you enjoy your stars on and off the plate. Remember,
tailgates and game day have always been Tyson.
Speaker 14 (21:18):
We got big personalities, we got big hair, big bell buckles,
we got fans all across as big state.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
And enemies and every other one.
Speaker 14 (21:26):
We even got a big star on the fifty yard line.
Smeirenov knows football is a wee thing. And experience that
is best enjoyed together with good drinks and good folks.
Home were away. We rally together, we cry together, and
we always rally cry together because most of all we
got big love for them boys.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Smear enough we do game days.
Speaker 14 (21:46):
Please drink responsibly.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Back to medium.
Speaker 16 (21:50):
Mash ahead, somebody.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
This is the media mash brought to you by no one.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Uh well, it is brought to you by eighty fan
chapter of Mail Hill.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Derek Derek Eagleton there all right, so we could come up.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Here and uh Clarence Hill of all City Dallas and
Nick Harrison is the Star Telegram have confirmed the Josina
Anderson initial report that Ezekiel Elliott would be released. So
you all have confirmed this here. So the Cowboys are
letting Zeke go. His days as a Dallas Cowboy are over.
Jack Taylor, they brought Zeke Elliott back this year. I
(22:38):
know you're Buckeye. Zeke's nearing due to your heart even
changed his number to fifteen, which he ran up and
down at and T Stadium and won year last national championship.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
But my son, the fifteen buck ed Jersey run through
the heart.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Of the South.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Yeah, man, how about your characterize this year here as you're.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Here this year. This year is awful.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I mean, there's no other way to say it.
Speaker 11 (23:01):
He was.
Speaker 10 (23:01):
I mean it was off from the jump, really, I
mean he didn't really contribute much. His biggest play was
the fumble he had earlier in the year. I mean
it was it's disappointing.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I mean, I bet if he looked back, he mean,
I bet if he looked back, he'd be like that.
Even came here, I just took it to the crib.
Why you look at me like that?
Speaker 7 (23:21):
He could have gone somewhere else going into the year.
He probably he had options.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
Like I said, it's hard to go home again.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Man, it's hard to spin the blocking.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's hard to go home again.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
The problem with going home again, this is the problem
is and I'm not saying the sequels entitled, but they
treated him like they.
Speaker 10 (23:42):
Still treated him like he was a star, right, and
when they should have treated like when herschel Walker left
and came back, they treated him like, oh, you you
coming back, so you could run down kickoffs and punks everything,
and you can act like a third running back.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
So you go back to training camp. And he didn't
take a lot of reps and they were saving him.
You remember Jerry talking as we know he was right,
you know, we know what z he can do, and
he's gonna south about this, and they had this plan
for him, and.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It was never there. I mean, they never used him.
And and to just.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Rico was the right choice. Rico had been the right choice,
but they never ran Zeke to see what z he
could do.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Anyway, That's just like it was such a weird setup.
Speaker 10 (24:27):
You almost wondered if McCarthy was on board with the
whole way, you know, because they just they just never
really used him well.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And and again, as I said, I don't think the
Cowboys knew what they had in Rico. But that is
another thing is how do you trust what you see
in Rico? Because he's never done it. He's never carred
the low he's in, He's had injury issues, he's never
been healthy. So you don't want to put all your
eggs and we're gonna make Rico the feature back and
(24:59):
and then.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
He can't hold up.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
And so they went in with this plan of trying
to make maximize an old Zeke and a new Rico
with this old running back by community because that's the
best thing we need to do best for the team.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
It's best for the team because they didn't know what
they had.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
There, made so many bad decisions this year, you know.
So that's what the mistake is, not bringing Zeke back
per se. The mistake is how you used it once
you got it.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
It was all of that and then not explaining his
role or telling his role, and then lying about we
communicated this role because Zeke didn't understand. You know, it's
one thing, okay, you don't use then you know, use
the shortyard his back. You know, you told me, you
blew me up and told me you liked what I
did last year, you like what you saw in New England,
and you had a plan for me, and then all
(25:46):
of a sudden, I'm not getting used at all.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
So he did not understand the plan and how it
went out.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And clearly again the Cowboys made the right decision, but
how they came about the decision.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
To go with Rico was flawed, without doubt. Yeah. Well,
and you know they were talking about you know Zeke.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
You know, he was you know, trying to get the
twin door sets the second all the time lead rush
and I was a touchdown score excuse me.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
You know, he came in with goals.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I he came in a goal, wanted to get a
thousand yards, wanted to get closer to ten thousand yards,
certainly wanted to move up on the chart in Cowboys history.
As far as rushing touchdowns, you know, none of it
came to rush. And then you got to depart in
the season, we was left home because he was being
tardy at the meetings and and what over else, you know,
common sense that they probably should have cut him the inn.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yes, uh, Zeke this year seventy four attempts for two
hundred and twenty six yards.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
And three touchdowns.
Speaker 11 (26:44):
Guess what though.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
More than you thought. But also I just go back
into we went back.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
We're back here on the players lounge, and I had
penciled in Zeke for four hundred and sixty five yards rush.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
M I didn't think. I did not.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I was not a fan of this move, and I
didn't think it would turn out. Well, I just didn't
think it would turn out this back.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
I think, you know, I think it's a it's just
a weird deal because I was a obviously I was
a huge fan of Zeke at Ohio State and I
thought they should have taken in the draft when he fell,
because I was like, oh, you put a great.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Running behind a great line, you should be able to
really do some things. And they did.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
But his career, I mean, you just thought he was
headed to the Hall of Fame after his first three season. Sure, sure,
And that whole suspension thing, it's like his thing was
just out of whack. Ever ever since that thing, ever
since that happened, his career was just kind of out
of whack.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
It wasn't the same. And it also just, at.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Least in my opinion, he went from being this beloved guy. Yeah,
and then you have to say Patrick's day stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
You just had things where he.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I always like to say, it's interest around who we
choose to condemn and who we choose to forget and
people I thought some of the public hadn't. They didn't
really forgive him, and things had changed. And then when
he held the remember he could call the lawsuits in
the court here and there. Instead of just taking it
and just going through with it, he let it affect him.
(28:16):
But I never regretted the drafting. I thought that was
the right thing to do, and it proved early on
it was the second contract where they really messed up
because they changed the rules right like not, I mean
it was maybe months later they changed the rules and
(28:37):
so had they just made him play on it.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
He did never have that leverage. And maybe they don't
even give him a second countract. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
But bringing him back after New England I thought was
a mistake. Bill Parcels Callbo was like this progress stoppers.
We saw it with Jason Witting when he came back.
Sometimes you just got to hey man, thank you, thank you.
But he didn't really progress because they still let Rico go.
The problem here is that.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
One they didn't get a draft once, they didn't drafted
running back. They were desperate to to trying to find
somebody to run with Rico, and and and and Zeke
was out there because they didn't go after running back
and free agency, which you know there were others out
there they could have gone after.
Speaker 11 (29:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And it goes back to Trey last deal.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
You know you tried that for that fourth round pick,
you for Trey Lass, you know, went after right after him.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, but Eric, what do you do this year?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Pretty damn good?
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Ten more yards Rico?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, and he didn't and he did the start and
he I mean, you know, but he could have.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Been you know, the back you picked could have been
your future.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, your future because you're now going to have to
go into the draft is ship free agency and try
to find find find some help now and.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
There are a lot of backs, so you can draft
it back. I mean this, this drafted loaded him backs.
But we're talking about this season and decision made for
this season part of the to make for this.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
There's no doubt that a mistake was made on in
free agency one draft to another and then it left
you with this. But I still I do wonder if
you hooked Mike McCarthy was some truth serve? Did he
even want Ezekiel Ellet back?
Speaker 7 (30:16):
The full story of Ezekiel Elliott does a Cowboys want
to be a complicated history. That will be an interesting
story one day, but.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
A deep blue.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
It'll be the last. It'll be the last time he
leaves here. At least he didn't leave as a center.
He left as a running back.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So wow, that's a thing.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
That's a good thing to take a break.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Could have been his last nap.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
He went back to center on those Redding Well, I
tell you your own.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
People, medium Ash be right back Cowboys dot Com. Hey
Cowboy fans.
Speaker 17 (30:56):
I'm Dak Prescott, quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, but lately
I've been learning in a new game. Crypto sound confusing,
don't worry. Even us pros were rookies and crypto once.
That's why I trust blockchain dot Com. They make crypto easy,
no confusing jargon, just the tools to help you win.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Prescott keats it slides with a first.
Speaker 17 (31:13):
Down, investigate your icons where everyone is a rook in
crypto with blockchain dot Com perfect throw.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
My goodness, wow did he ever thread the needle?
Speaker 17 (31:21):
Visit blockchain dot com Slash Cowboys to get started.
Speaker 15 (31:25):
Fall is here, and that means football is back, bringing
all the delicious game day foods with it as you
prep for all the big games, tailgates and watch parties.
Let Yo Kiero be your one stop destination for all
things homegating. Yo Kierro's fresh, flavorful, ready to serve guacamolele
made with real hals avocados will score taste bud touchdowns
as you cheer on the Cowboys. Yo Kiro's wide range
(31:48):
of mouthwatering and versatile products can be found in your
local grocery stores, produce or deli section.
Speaker 14 (31:53):
Grab some today. Hey Cowboys fans, a twenty twenty four
football season is here, and seat gig is here to
help you experience all the action. Seed Gig makes it
easy to find tickets so you can be a part
of all the touchdown celebrations this season. Whether you're buying
or selling tickets at Cowboys football games or to any
other live event, seed gig is the place to do it.
(32:15):
Seed Gig is the official primary ticketing partner of the
Dallas Cowboys, the most disruptive idea in ticketing a ticket
that works, expect the expected seed Geek.
Speaker 15 (32:25):
How about them Cowboys or how about them Tyson Cowboys Nuggets?
As we cheer for the stars on the field, we
love that we've also got some stars on our plate.
Thanks to Tyson Brands star shaped Cowboys Nuggets. They sure
make game day special. And for every purchase of the
new Tyson Cowboys Nuggets this holiday season, Tyson Foods will
donate one dollar to the Salvation Army up to one
(32:47):
hundred thousand dollars. As you enjoy your stars on and
off the plate. Remember, tailgates and game day have always
been Tyson.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Two media mash.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That sounds like a tag media mash right here on
Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
What sounds like that there, sir, claims Hill.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
The cares sounds like your spin is what it sounded like.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
So is there a statement out on Ezekiel Elliott?
Speaker 10 (33:20):
Sir, No, there's no statement, But it's one of those
deals where everybody seemed to have called the same person
because they all got the same.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
We Zeke was released to help him join the playoff team.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
If that's not the issue.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yes, he was released because he wanted to join the
playoff team. It's the outer respect and appreciation.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
For his services over the top that. I mean, we
all know what's the dirty game. We just cut him, Okay,
I mean what it is that.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
They didn't have to cut him. They didn't have to
release him. It is out of respect for his time.
That is a fact.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
It's the final game of I know. I'm just saying
that they should be playing. Okay, they shouldn't even be
should he be playing? That's that's my point. I mean,
he's like, come on, what are they gonna do with it?
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Right? They didn't want to make him in active.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The money is the same. Yeah, he might have been
in the act. It was time.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
If you're not gonna play Duce, now when you're gonna play,
it's like the trade last thing.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
Come on, Deuce was done once McCarthy didn't have five
after that big win other day, stop it was.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean, but at this point, like last week, I'm
see him once once they're out of the playoffs, tell
you why was not? Why Wasduce not the one the
primary back? I mean, probably because Turp has been your
backup tail back.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Yeah, they've they've found more since being out of the
playoff race with Turp and then than anyone else other
than Rico.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Right, but what's the I mean, CD was the running
back before the turping.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
It was RB two. He was one hundred R two.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, so Duce can't play, Okay, I put it out there, Okay,
But my point is, why is he active for one
snap two snaps a game?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Wh was the active last two or three weeks?
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Out of respect?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Out of respect, the same reason why they're cutting them
out of respect for his tenure.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Deuce really can't play, and so we need got there.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
That's all we're talking about.
Speaker 15 (35:12):
It.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
It makes me think of the media media scrum we
had last week when Zeke walked by and Clarence said, hey,
come on, we can get you and and he kept going.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
So it's very it's just very different of what what
once was. When he first came in here.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
I remember talking to Darren Woodson, who was here working
at ESPN on that draft day, wondering if they would
take Ezekiel Elliott. And they had the draft over at
at and T Stadium and Zeke wanted to be here
and it started off great. But this is the nature
of football. Jock's always told me, you know, sports is fluid.
And it started off You're thinking he's putting up his
(35:50):
first the first three years he was putting up those
Hall of Fame type This is the kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Write this down here. You need a couple of those rushing.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Ring type numbers. Yes, you know, two times two time
rushing champion won't make the Ring of honor.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah, and if the suspension probably would have been three.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, right now, he's not making ring line, that's my point.
But a two time rushing infl Russian champ that's I've
heard of, you would think, right, third all time in
Russian Cowboys history.
Speaker 15 (36:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
But his career was a slow dissent.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
He is the first running back in of our history
to have I hate that stack. It's a crazy stack.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I hate it.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
I can't stand it really because what is the stat then,
now that he had descending yards per averaging yards per
carry every year of his career, every year.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Of his career. Nobody, not one other back.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Now some of that is she said the numbers so
high initially, so really, initially, that is it?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
How about the last five years?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I said initially that means at the beginning the theater.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Read this statement from Cowboys owner president and general manager
Gerald Wayne Jones.
Speaker 10 (37:02):
Let me get my handkerchief hold tech out of respect
and appreciation for Zeke.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Oh, it did come from the pr butt.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
And wanting to provide him with an opportunity to pursue
any potential playoff participation possible.
Speaker 10 (37:18):
So ain't nobody cause we just hoping and praying. We
are releasing him from the Cowboys roster today. As I've
said many times previously, Hey, Christian Champson music.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
For this, Read this, give us some violins.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Zeke's impact as one of the greatest to ever play
with the star on his on their helmet will never change,
and it's etched in our record books in history forever.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
But we didn't want them tell that record.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
We thank him, love him, and wish him the absolute
best from your owner from America's team, Gerald Wayne Jones
put that in your story, and Nick put that in
your story.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
It's getting plugged in right now. That that's one hundred
and fifty words.
Speaker 16 (38:04):
You kidding.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Take that with you. Take that with you there, you go,
tweet this over here.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
To my people.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
I'll take the reins. Jerry Jones being u having the
opportunity in the draft to pivot on getting a running
back or firing on one, and then always pivoting the
conversation back to Zeke. It was telling of their relationship
at that point. Even after that they the first time
that they had divorced a couple of years ago, but
being able to bring him back he I think initially
(38:36):
Jerry saw a big role for him this year. I
do they would have drafted one.
Speaker 10 (38:40):
There's no place for sentimentality in his game percent right,
This zero place for it, and this organization has way
too much of it.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
This has always been my challenge. I would tell people
about the owner also being the general manager. You want
your owner to look at the glass and say it's
half full. That is some pure pH water, good for you.
But I need my general manager to look at that
water to say, I think the glass is cracked. I
don't know what the water is dirty? Was that glass
fully clean? And we may need to go think about
(39:10):
it as another glass around the corner that we need
to replace it with. But the general manager will always
lose to the optimistic owner. And I always believed that
Mike McCarthy was okay with Zeke being gone. Yeah, as
Skip Pete also went out the door as a running
back coach and Jeff Blasco took over. I'm not so
sure about him coming back. And then of course they
(39:33):
sent him home, then take him to a game. Talked
about mis meetings. There are issues there this year, and
that's where the sentiment comes in because actuality. If Jimmy's
coaching his team, not only would Zke not have made
the plane, Zeke, he'd have been gone, thank you for
your services, You're gone, but he was still here. And
(39:53):
then what was he doing while he was here? We're
finding situations where we weren't even getting the ball sometimes.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Jerry talked about on the radio show today how he
he misfired on the offensive line.
Speaker 10 (40:07):
It seems to me like, and I said this at
the very beginning, why would you How could you think
that they were you draft guys. You changed their positions,
and then you plug them in and you act all
surprised when they're not good right off the rip more
than one.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah, like, get over the skis.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You've been over your skis a few times before. Heaven
when you got over your ski just made over you.
You know when you get over your skis, No, you
fall down.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
It just don't sense to me.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Man, you get never problem. You fall out when you
get off your ski.
Speaker 14 (40:41):
What do you do?
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Lindy, I don't know. I watched I know when I
want used.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
To watch The Wild World of Sports. They were too
far over their ski with the dude.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
All I know is the ski lift tickets, Chris Bean
know them. Ski lift tickets cost too much. So my
children went on the ski lift ticket.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
No I'm not going. I'm gonna save some money on skin.
I just paid for them to go.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
I thought I wanted to go skiing, and then I
had to put the ski boots on. It's too claustrophobic.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
That's that's not me.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
It's a whole bunch of and I'll tell you my
worst experience doing that was the twenty ten Olympics. I
was covering the Olympics at the Van Cooper Olympics, and
I was covering some ski some skiing events, and so
you had to take this whatever you call it thing
(41:27):
over there, okay. And I got in with the great
Kate Heroppolos from Dallas More News, and I had my
backpack on.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Bad move because.
Speaker 10 (41:37):
Now you're leaning forward the whole time because you couldn't
put the bar down once it started taking off, and
I'm scared of heights. So that was the longest trip
up the mountain I'd ever been on because I thought
it was gonna fall off the whole time.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I thought it was thought it was. I thought this
was a story by skiing.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Did I had got.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
You know?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I mean, we had the boss team. He was hold up, damn,
Parris Wheel, your author. But I was not Wait and
Robert from.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Manius Jeff Fishing with that seventy.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Nine boo.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Beyond people, man, start beyond people.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
That's your story, man, that's my story.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
That's why I don't show up on the question for
your story, police, You'll be the question police story.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
That's funny studies.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I really thought it was my skin. It was they
had a god, they had this bigger, big old skate
slope tore my knee.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
I told my when I was down.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
And then I'm like, I never heard of jock go
sk I know where the was that.
Speaker 11 (42:54):
He gave me?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
There looked because he gave me. He definitely gave me
a look like whoa is this going.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Anyway? That's why he took you on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
The bottom Zeke's gone today? Well who else is gone?
After Sunday?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
And we haven't even got into make Zimmer and you
were there Mike Zerra getting all cinema.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Cry talking about he didn't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
We didn't, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
You know what, when you get older, you get more cinema.
I mean this is this has just been a different
Zener than we had back in the day. He don't
cuss anymore. My personal talked about last Zimon on screen.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
He just you know, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
He barely talks above a whisper. He really has not
been effusive with us. And yesterday when he found out
this was gonna be the last time they talked to us.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
He decided to open up.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:49):
He asked on the podiums like, this is probably the
last time, right, and they were like, yeah, then you
were right. After that, there was a clear kind of change.
He had mentioned about how important this year was for
him for his son Adam, who passed a couple of
years ago, and Jock. You could probably speak more to it,
but from people that I knew on that Jackson State staff,
whenever he was a consultant there, whenever that moment happened,
(44:10):
it was obviously a big thing that happened in his life.
And uh, to have a different demeanor after that, it's
it's expected, and you know, being able to get back
in the game of football for his son this year
was huge. It was important for him. He said in
his first presser when he first arrived here in Dallas
that he needed the game of football back. And you've
seen what the game of football has done to him
because sometimes in those pressers he's energetic, he's into it,
(44:32):
and you can see, you know, how locked in he is,
and then at other times you kind of see this
game can still be taxing, it can still it can
still take from you. And you wonder how all of
that will play into his decision to even want to
come back if he's allowed back.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Wall Nice had a lot of tragedy.
Speaker 10 (44:46):
His wife died unexpectedly out of the blue one day,
and my son died unexpectedly, and so that's a lot
of tragedy for for anybody.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Man.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
We we all, we we all we watched Adam grow
up and Chris Bean, you know, we saw him, man.
Speaker 10 (45:01):
And uh, yeah, and I stayed in touch with Adam
over years, Like I probably texted him two or three
times a year about various things, some just making a
comment if I talked to his old man or something,
and uh, because uh, because we had seen him. And
then I did a couple of stories on him when
he was with the Saints and they went to the
super Bowl and some other stuff and it was a
(45:22):
good dude. And uh, you know, I remember texting him
when they got the job in Minnesota. He was how
happy he was for his dad to finally get it,
get a crack at it job. And uh, you know
the thing about Jackson State is his cousin Andrew was
on that staff, and so so there was always a
lot to talk about little Zim and UH and Zimmer
because his uh, his cousin was there and so we
(45:44):
talked about HM quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yep, rest in peace, Adam. Yeah, it's still one of
those that I remember the news. And it was just
hard because we watched him, know it was ball boy
man and become a coach and for real, man like
happy for him too, like hey, man, out of shot,
he's doing his things. And and then of course you
know Jim's wife pass away.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
That was tough. And then you find out that he
had some struggles too, and it was just it was
just tough. It was tough.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
I men, you get around folks and you'll you when
you get to do this as long as we have,
you're gonna be that same way. Man, You're just kind
of like like damn. And so you know when you
root for Zimmer the bottom line, you know, at the
end of the day, we do a job. But man,
we want Mike to seek Mike's a good guy and
just and you just know people like that.
Speaker 14 (46:25):
Man.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
He's he's carrying some stuff.
Speaker 14 (46:27):
Man.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I don't know, I don't know how you carry it,
but he's carrying some stuff, man, And uh, whether he's
back here or not, I will always root for Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 7 (46:34):
The person don't want to see good people do good.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
He held on to that text for matter man. I
hear you, bro, I hear I hear it. Life is precious.
We could be here today and going today. That's how
it is these days. So hey, well, let's end.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
This year on this high note here.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
I appreciate all you. This has been great to be
able to do the media mash. We will ride on Thursday.
Let's take tomorrow off. We'll root for you, sir, Thank you,
thank you, r for.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Me, tomorrow for you. And happy birthday everybody, Happy birthday.
That knew he had a birthday yesterday he turned.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
And root for me.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Turned.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
I was a root for you too.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Okay, you know, you know, you know I have.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
I have a soft spot in my heart for Ryan
Day because your fan base, your fan base, everybody treating
John like he John Cooper.
Speaker 10 (47:21):
I mean, I'm sorry, man to stuff that you need
to interrupt the birthday. Praise man, praise you know that's sorry.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
We route because I got a new birthday, brother, Nick.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
We were rooting for the buck guys, room for the guys.
The Long Horns and Stadium.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
And the boat.
Speaker 18 (47:37):
Jan fifthers over here, that's right January fifth, right there
we root for l s U. So yeah, there you
go by by birthday time, birthday, Capricorn time. The grinders,
it's true street learn from us man.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
I'm a he's a that's a different kind of grinder,
a little more emotional.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
Old bull, the old bull walk down the hill. I'd
hear you are a runner down here. You're running here,
you run down tex Star down the If you.
Speaker 7 (48:08):
Go back about forty five years in Schulingberg, Texas to him,
he's been he was.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Running, he running all day.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
I'm old boy. Now walked out here. Yeah, it's not
gonna finish it.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
In the hill, leaving you in Beibo at Home clas Hill,
Nick Harris, Jan Jacck Taylor, New Restours for Jazz, Chris
and everyone has been a part of Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
The Media match of twenty twenty four, Happy New Year,
Seeing twenty twenty five.
Speaker 14 (48:33):
This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.
24/7 News: The Latest
Today’s Latest News In 4 Minutes. Updated Hourly.