January 22, 2025 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now your host knew he scruggs.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hey, we got a lot to talk about here on
the media Match. Thank you so much for coming in
here with your favorite writers. He's most trusted. Clarence Hill,
all City Dallas is here in the Hall of Famer.
He is ed Warder in the house. WFAA knew him
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Championship the bucket alum himself. He is Jean Jacques Taylor.
(00:49):
At least somebody here at the tables team went and
won a playoff game. Wasn't the whole dog one thing?
I should say one the whole thing? Congratulations sir, appreciate it.
Take your bow, Take your bow.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
We took out bout.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You played such a huge role in the accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I put my well, yeah, yeah, I got this.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
The degree says the Ohio State University congratulators the degree.
I don't need to trust.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I worked with him closely. I need to see it.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So I'm giving your props. Man, I could give you
your prop I appreciate that. Some other people can't.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Yeh.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Can't you talking about this man?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
But you looked at me. Cut your eyes, pray at me.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
You're still trying to get over here.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
He helped me tickets to the to the Texas whooping.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Come on, man, stop it, okay, okay.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
I had no problem with him in his buck eye fandom.
Steve Dinner's the other hand, he texted me non stop.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I see, I don't do any of that.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I don't mess with nobody. I had no problem with
this man.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Congratulations.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
I told Rocks congratulations outside when I saw Yeah, I
didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
She low, she low, keeping she low.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Keep it okay, well, well yeah, that's rare. Low keep.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
My god.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
I saw Bobby.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
I saw Bobby Compden in the bowels little ATMT Stadium
after the Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
He was happy.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Old Bobby Carr.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Was in Cobo.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Work.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I was trying to turn this Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
A lot of a lot of NFL stuff coming here.
We just getting work. Now that the Jaguars are getting
rid of GM Trent Bulky. So that news going on
there and then right here in this building, Brian Schottenheimer offense,
the coordinated the last two years, getting a second interview
to day with the club. Yesterday's interview. They needed more
(02:39):
uncore performance from shotty.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Ed anybody else getting a second interview among the four
people who have interviewed, not to our knowledge at this point,
ed Smoke this thing out ed, I think it makes
sense from Jerry's.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Portfen, just don't say it makes sense. Just don't it
makes sense.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I want, I said Jerry's point of view, just.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Make him so let him. Let him talk.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
So he's obviously a very experienced NFL assistant coach twenty
five years, have been here for three years, has not
called the plays here. This is the only place among
the ten teams he's worked for where he was the
offensive coordinator but didn't call the plays. He deferred to
Mike McCarthy on that. So I think the reaction to
this is going to.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Be bad, awful. It's going to be worse, to bet.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Will it be worse than hiring Dave Campbell?
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Yes, because at least you could sell Campo that Campbell
was part of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I was gonna say yes you could, yes you could
go fail.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Campbell was part of Super Bowl era.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
He was part of Jimmy and he was continuation of that,
and we're going back to him past.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah, there's nothing to say.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
There's nothing to sell here, nothing continuity. And that's also
big on Jerry's agenda.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So we can continue to seven and ten.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
What part of the twelve and five teams too?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And the seven and ten team.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Okay again, say you criticized, and understandably so and fairly
so when you're the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry's said the
Cowboys can always have the best there is in coaching
because of their's our status as a franchise. And then
they don't even interview. This is people who are the
most coveted coaches in football who are being hired by
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other franchises.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
This franchise is falling apart because of its overwhelming arrogance.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I mean, it's arrogance is beyond belief.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
And that's why they think that yes, anybody can should
be welcome to have this job. And we don't have
to interview these people as that people, and we could
just take our time getting around to people because people
will be happy to be here, and we can offer
Mike McCarthy whatever contract we want because he should just
be thankful to be here. And now you're like, Doug,
this is this is pathetic, and it's it's why they're
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you know, it's they can have some talent and they
can do well, it's just hard to overcome the arrogance
that they have.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So you said pathetic, Are you saying the candidate pool?
What's that?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
The pathetic thing is that you.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Can't presume failure by Schottenheimer. He's never had the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No, well, it's not even it's bigger than Shottenheimer.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
It's the fact that you're doing all of this so
that you're getting yet another coach who's so happy to
have a job because ain't nobody's going to hire him?
That whatever you say, hey Shoddy, go jump this high? Yes, sir,
how long should I stay in the air? Because he's
happy to have the job because he ain't got no
other options? He don't even have a Coordinet option.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
If you don't get this job.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
He back to being a position coach making four hundred
thousand instead of you know what will Jerry, give him
for me?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Will he given that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
If that makes him the lowest paid coach, you'll get that.
So that's what I mean. It's bigger than shoddy. Not
just don't even have anything to.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Do with him.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
He can't Ultimately, it does have a lot to do
with how he performs on the role.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
He can't succeed in his role. That is what I'm saying.
So that's why I said, don't have anything.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
When you say that, all right, most trusted.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Or the problem is the process, And I think that's
what you're talking about it. It's how you're doing it.
You know, it's saying that you know, yes, he could
be successful. We can't say he won't be successful. And
so it's not personal about him him. It's about the
process and how you arrived at him. And is this
about winning?
Speaker 5 (06:08):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Is it about being comfortable? Is it about right? But
is that about winning?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
You know?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Anybody you talk to who's successful and wor I'm not
defending this, presume the guy's gonna found No, no, no.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
We're he's railing about the process, just like you railed
about them not interviewing the best coaches that are available.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
You don't even give a call to Aaron Glenn. You
don't even give a call.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well, he didn't want them.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
They didn't make a request they can be turned down,
like the Cowboys turned down Mike McCarthy going to Chicago.
They didn't even make a request to be turned down, Okay,
because they were still really that with McCarthy, that that whole.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Week when they could have done that. So it's it's
the writing process. It's it's the idea.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
That you were waiting, wasting time deciding whether Mike McCarthy
wanted to come back, and Mike McCarthy ultimately turned you down,
and then you kind of left with your bands down.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
And now you're trying.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
To You only knew for a year this might happen.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Yeah, you only, And now you're trying to grasp the
sprawls and and and the other issue is the guys
you've interviewed. Okay, the only only two guys you've interviewed
have been coveted by other teams.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Only two of the four who two of the four
interviewed by.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Another Yeah, that that that that we wanted by other teams,
And like these guys are just nobody else one are
the cowboys, the smartest guy in the room.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Do they know something nobody else knows?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
You're about do for one of those, doesn't it?
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I mean, that's that's that's just that's the problem with
the whole process.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And just like the notion if you meet with all
these top coaches and then pick Brian Schottenheimer, that's different, yes,
than the way it's happening.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
No.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
And then you have the witting component. You know, this
is really not about shots by getting wit on this
coach is about the next cot right, It's about getting
Witten on the staff so he can be the air
apparent and listen with may be a great coach okay
one day, you know, but here's a guy who's gotten
out of the mud everywhere he's gone, right, you know,
he talked about that, you know, coming from Tennessee and
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he wasn't giving anything and everything else he earned it
became yes, call of Famer. The way he's going about
this coaching process, the way he's been put on the
pestle to be the next coach, that's not getting out
of the dirt. That's not what Aaron Glenn did. That's
not what Dan Campbell did. You know, work your way up,
earn this spot.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
That's what he's gonna do if he gets on the staff.
Here is it?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Are you earning your spot?
Speaker 9 (08:33):
You're already been given, like Jason Garrett, you know, Wade Phillips,
you're not earning anything.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
You know, you raised a good point when you say
it's about comfortability. But any of us who've ever talked
to anybody who's ever been successful in any line of work,
what do they say? You must be uncomfortable. You got
to experience the uncomfortability, so what so you can grow
and get better? And so when you could take this
comfortable process, it's it's bound to fail.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Okay, So Brian Schottenheimer is getting a lot of the
attention right now. Second job interview. Let's circle back to
Kellen Moore, who the Eagles offensive court, and he's busy
this week. Yes, the two two teams in the NFC
Championship are in the NFC East Washington and UH Philadelphia, and.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
They both have coaches who or coordinators who were just here,
just just here.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So is Kellen Moore out ed?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
That's a source? It is, It is one. It is
somebody who could be considered. But I guess I'll let
it ring.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I don't know that Kellen Moore's out, but I think
there's the sense I'm getting is that they're more confident
in Brian Schottenheimer as a leadership figure, uh, commanding presence
in the room than they are Kellen Moore. Like that's
their big concern about Kellen.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Moore and Kennedy command the room. I mean, he may
be a great off his mind. We've interviewed it.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
First of all, I don't be interview about a whole
lot of time interviewing Kellen Moore at this point, like
they is a three hour maximum. They didn't come close
to using all of their time, and and and.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Think about is how did this play? Wait?
Speaker 7 (10:17):
Wait wait wait wait hey your wife still cooks those
great butter biscuits.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Hey, kids, it was in a drive through interview.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Looks it was a zoom, wasn't a sit down meal.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
He's the only one that they didn't meet have it
right in person. You assume that they know him quite well.
He was their quarterback, he was their assistant coach, a
draft pick. That being said, they have a three hour
limit at this point to conduct a zoom with the
guy who's about to call plays. For the Eagles against
Washington and can't meet with him again until their season
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over is over. And they did not use all three hours.
They did not even come close.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Have you have you talked to Kelly.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I've talked to people who might know what.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
No, have you talked to Killing.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I have not talked to kell So.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
What I'm saying is that when you start talking to Keller, yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
You know you're saying he can't fit free out.
Speaker 10 (11:10):
I thought you.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I'm asking if I got that Kelling.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Dirty word about dirty word, nasty word.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I mean, come on, you know that boy can't feel
three hours.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Brian Shoes, I mean exactly. My next thing, Shotty back
here for over time. The Shotty volunteered to take the
rest of that time. That's why they're reading again today. Listen,
I'll have the rest of that Kellen more time, and
I'll come in tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
So what will be interesting is if you make this
decision and Kellen Moore gets to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Okay, you pass on a Super Bowl offense coordinator. I
don't think that matters. That's a results oriented decision.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Well, and it is, but that's the results are in
the business.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Well, we're gonna pass so we're gonna pass on Aeron
Glenn because his defense got rocked last week.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
No, but what Eric Glynn has a history of track.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I'm just saying, though, these are the two finalists right
now of the two people that have been favored four
but two of the ones that considered the favorites the
non Rooney rules, the two of the ones that had
been considered the favorites outside of Dion, he was considered
the favorite early on not but anyway, the ones that
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considered the favorites. And so I'm saying that if Kellen
is your guy, and we know we've all talked about
him not being able to command in the room, you
particulally could sell Kellen as a Super Bowl offense coordinator.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
But you can sell not not inside I'm talking about
to the fan base.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Are we trying to win?
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Yeah, he's winning and winning if he gets to the
super Bowl. You can sell that to the fan base
and ultimately to the team better. You can sell the
guy that's never gotten there and the guy that nobody
else was trying to give a job to.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Are you waiting that long? If you're Jerry, you know
what he got to lose.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You waited.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
It's not a way.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
He didn't know Chang Gilly till then.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
I mean, I'm just saying, we've been through these coaching processes. Yes,
can you can wait, But what's the rush down?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
You get a guy that's in, how uch should you
You could have hired you could have interviewed him last week?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Then why did we wait there this week interview him?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
But if it's such a rush, I'm just asking if
he's maybe wanting to get this done with so we
can hire assistance, keep whatever.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
I think it was a strategic that the two Rooney
Rul candidates were first.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
No, Kellen was first.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
He was first after they had already scheduled those of
the interview They had to shoehorn killing in because you
had to get him done before.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
The weekend, and he wasn't gonna take you but a
couple of minutes.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
He was shoehorned in.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Exactly, he could easily fill three hours and he's gotten
none as far as we could tell.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Those interviews were already scheduled, and then we shoehorned Keilling
Moore in that day.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
But they could have talked to Leslie Fraser or Robert Salah,
who now appears to be the favorite for the Jacksonville
job head coaching job. They could have talked to them
while they were here about their interest in being a coordinator.
Should they make certain other head coaching hires again, so
that could have a benefit to that.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
No doubt. But that's part of the process.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Why are you you don't like the process?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
We already talked, right, But that's part of the process.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Why are you trying to pick a coordinator for your
head goats? You shouldn't be What do you always tell
me about the process.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
What if What if Kellen Moore or shot he said, Hey,
I really like to have Robert Salaz my defensive coordinator.
So any way we could talk to them.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Well then they Kellen mood go and talk to him.
But but busy, keep this in mind, keeping this in mind.
And you know that you've been doing it a long time.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I'm not telling you.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Nothing doing a long time.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
These guys already got people in place.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
They already Kellen Moore has already talked to potential hires
for every pure you know, they they already got guide
lined up. Hey, if I get this job, will you
come with me here? They've already got done. This is
not something you do after the fat.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
All right, let's get our first break in here. If
Brian Schottenheimer successful in his second interview and gets the
head coaching job, any ideas about potential staff, Let's talk
about that with Jean Jacques Taylor, ed warder clartellon NEWI Scruks.
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Back to media, Mash.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Media Mash right here trying to make sense of the
Dallas Cowboys head coaching search. Mike McCarthy no longer here.
He's waiting to talk to the Saints about their head
coaching job. He interviewed for Chicago. That went to Ben Johnson,
who left the Detroit Lions as their offensive corner. He's
now the Bears head coach. Reports our Aaron Glenn is
about to take the job with the New York Jets.
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He played here for the Cowboys. Looks like he's going
to go there, so we know. Kellum Moore has been
interviewed Robert Sila has been interviewed, Leslie Fraser has been interviewed,
and Brian Schottenheimer is back for a second interview. Jean Shaqe,
Taylor ed Warder, He's Clarence Hill. I'm new he strugg
So I'll start with you most trusted. If Brian Schottenheimer
is the head coach, who do you anticipate? Who do
(18:13):
you think could be on the staff? He talked about
these guys all have homies and buddies and friends about
who they want?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
You said, all put together?
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Yeah, man, what you got. All I know is Jason
Witten's gonna be under staff. That's all I know right now?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
What roll?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Because Lone de Wellstewell is not on the staff. I'm
just saying Lound de Wells has been your tight ends
coaching to my knowledge, I don't think he's got a job.
And the only person I think off McCarthy Stav's got
a job so far as bones fossils in Tennessee and.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Luna could move the offensive line conceivably.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Didn't Dan Quinn try to hire him for that last
year when he left together.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
He's been his office line in his history.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
He could conceivably moved off his line if you wanted
to keep the same And Louda's probably gotten overtures from
other coaches and over other other stops as well. So
I mean, these guys are nothing's been set, but they're
they're you know, they're also being quartered by the teams.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
But tight end and run game coordinator right there that
Jason wentz tylely, think who.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Else is on that staff out of Argyle with him
at Liberty?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So anybody else.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Coording at a run game?
Speaker 6 (19:13):
In his first year as a pro coach, he got
Monday night football owns for his job.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
And how'd that go?
Speaker 14 (19:19):
Well?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
He got money night football.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
His hair looks better, His hair looked better.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
He got dirty work, dirty work that didn't go.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But he hadn't done that before.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
He's done football, before he'd been running the whole team
up in our guy.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Offensive man defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Would Shotty call play?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I assume he would.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Assume he don't only stay here under any circumstances if
he was to play.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, that's that goes with that saying.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I don't think much of the defensive staff is expecting
to come back here, regardless of who the next head coaches.
I mean, if you're thinking Brian Schottenheimer because of continuity,
that continuity might play on offense, but defensively, I think
there's going to be sweeping changes on that side of
the ball. I'm not sure Zimmer is coming. Mike was available, Yeah, Zimmer,
(20:09):
how come I don't interview him per head coach?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Exactly? Why when you get a shot of head COACHS?
Was wrong with Zimmer? He's been done it before.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
He came back here to save you last year, to
save Mike and.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
John and and and inconceivably right, Shottenheimer can beat the
office coordinator. You know you're still not and you windn't
can be able to stand up? Why is Zimer not
the head coachs? Why is Shottenheim or with Zimmer?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, so far in the process they have not talked
to Mike Zimmer about that exactly.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
So well, they've only known him for thirty years. Maybe
they don't need to talk to him but hire him.
But we haven't heard that at all.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
So two interviews that Dion Sanders not interviewed officially, Mike
Zimmer not interviewed officially. So just just names other people
have brought up and had wondered about. But they haven't
even spoken to them, and shot, he's the only one
named so far. We've heard that's got a second interview,
which I soon puts him in the lead.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Well, I mean, I think it's just it's one of
those gathering momentum things. He seems to be gathering momentum well.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
No doubt, which puts him in the league.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Yeah, you know, but I mean, you don't do the
second interview unless you're trying to hire a guy.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
You know, you bring a guy back for the second time.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
It's like the other when Ben came back and came
in to interview with Chicago they hired and Eric lenn
goes back and interviews with the Jets.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
They hired it.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
So I've heard, I've heard the name Matt Eberflus for
defensive coordinator. Thoughts anybody else here that's a.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Good defensive coordinat He just wasn't a good head coach.
He's fine as a defensive coordinator, and what is he familiar?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I mean, I think he would have a lot of
internal support here. I think he did a good job.
I mean, they wanted to make him a defensive coordinator
here before.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
I mean he's a quality coach. Ain't nobody mad about
eber Flues. He'll have your defense playing good, solid defense.
And you don't have to worry about him because he's
been a head coach. He can handle everything over there.
If you want to be exclusively offensive, get Pep talks again.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
And you know, Mike Irving was on his YouTube channel.
If you go see it, it's like Baron Bones operation.
We got enough money to prove that YouTube channel.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Just where is this coming from? Is this going somewhere?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Shooting off the hip the day man, I'm just talking.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Is this going somewhere?
Speaker 6 (22:18):
He was not happy with Schottenheim. He said the cowboy
did the high coach for the morale of the team.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
In morale.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Right, he said, he does. This does not inspire him.
He's his dobbers down. His morale is low. He like
most fans.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
So he's not going to do the big thing on
the scoreboard before games. If Shottenheimer's the head coach.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
He's not going to do the big pump up video
that's already been done.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Tell them, tell them that you just hd they just
got a quarterback. He should be happy about that.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
You know, I'm just saying, though, But my overall point is.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Just looking at our Twitter mentions, your Twitter mentions, fans
are not happy. This is not exciting anybody. People are
talking about leaving. You know, I'm done with the Cowboys.
We'll see that really happens. But from from a year
in which the apathy was an all time and I've
been around here a long time.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
We've been around a long time, You've been around a
long time.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
There's a lot of empty seats that last game.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
The apathy for this team coming into the season was
as low as I've ever seen. This fan base is
more disillusioned as I've ever seen. And put this on
top of it, after this past season, I.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Won't give you like ninety seven thousand people at games now.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Well they might be half from other teams because they
know destination, but I mean, it's it's just it doesn't inspire.
There's nothing about this that's inspiring for fan base that's starving.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
What will it do to the players? Do you think
that's who needs to be inspired?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Let's sa Another thing is the players, I think why why?
Speaker 14 (23:43):
But what?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Okay, they don't need to be inspired by their Boston No,
but what.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
The most things we're talking about was not about him
inspiring the team, was about him being comfortable. It's about
keeping the status quo, and that is the wrong attitude.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I agree that the fan base is going to be
outraged at, asked, apathy, apathetic, even worse. But if you win,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And that's the whole thing is can you can you win?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
And would Jerry do this if he was convinced Schottenheimer
wouldn't win?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But see here's why that doesn't.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Mean, Yeah, why he doesn't? Why did he trade for Mingo? Mingo?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I mean, did Jerry do any day giving up a
fourth round pick.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
No, Jerry lies to himself at every turn.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
That's why you can convince yourself that two rookie starters
playing different.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Later I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I mean he literally estimated that, you know, he got
the zig Ziggler.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I'm talking about the officsive line or office line, because
they let the people go and they tried to sell
why it would work with the rookies.
Speaker 14 (24:46):
Right.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
So the fact that he can convince himself that, oh shot,
he can come in here and do this and that,
and that's that's that's on point, that's on message for him,
that's on brand for him, and then midway through the
season he'll be like, huh, I guess this didn't work.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I guess I'm gonna have to move wing up sooner
than I thought.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yes, I mean it's dude. I mean, they they need
somebody to come in and slap them because you can't.
I mean, you just can't continually going around lying to yourself,
because that's how.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You end up with these problems.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Go spend that ten million and get Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Do you think all of us started with the misclibration
of the McCarthy situation, Like, oh, absolutely, we think we've
got leverage. He doesn't have any other options. We can
offer them whatever we want and he's going to take it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's the arrogance, man. It's like, well they still you know,
and I've said it for a minute now.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
It's some of this is.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
They win their marketing deals. Like they destroy you when
you say I want to be this of the Cowboys official,
this official right, because they say, hey, we'll take you know,
the vast majority of the money. But you go out
and tell everybody else that you're the official this of
the Cowboys and you make your money that way. They
do that and they win so often that they've convinced
themselves that we can do that with coaches, with players,
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with everybody, because we're the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
You should just be happy to be here.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
But if you objectively look at the last thirty years,
you can't possibly come to that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But they lie to themselves, so they do.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Since KYB being the richest franchise in sports over the
last thirty years, being the most watched team in sports,
I'm just look at it.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Over the week, throw a lot of one o'clock kickoffs
towards the end of the Look look at that, but.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Look at look at last year cowboys blowout loss to
Green Bay was viewed by five million more people than
Green Bay's lost to Philadelphia same same time.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
The fascination with the franchise.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
But the thing that they're missing this they've gone down
a little bit is you know, they're losing a little
bit of star power every year.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
You know, you got Dak, you got CD, you got Micah,
that's it.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
And so before you had a collection the galaxy, it
starts eighty nine probos this or that. Now you know,
you you lose those and you lose another bit of
visible ability. You lose another bit of stuff you can
advertise to you know, they need to shake it up,
but they won't. Why because they love comfortability.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
So I assume everyone's reactions on their own social media
channels where people were happy about the prospect of Brian Schotenheimer.
If Schottenheimer does get the job, what is Jerry the
ultimate marketer sell Dak?
Speaker 4 (27:26):
That's what he said he's gonna sell. People really are
not enamored of him either, not not anymore. When we
asked him after the last game, how do you sell
hope to your fan to your fan base, he said,
we got one of the best quarterbacks in football, and
we're gonna protect him, and that's gonna be it. That's
where he went with it. That was his answer. I
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protect him on both things, he said, a well protected,
superstar quarterback. He's one of the best quarterbacks in football.
He has been sometimes so.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
And it's crazy, and I get back to the protection thing,
and you look at what's the landscape the NFL and
landscape quarterback, which is the mobile, duel threat quarterback.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
And that's what deck at the last four guys standing
right now, deck three hundreds rushing.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
That's what Dak was coming out of Mississippi State, and
what he was was special about him when he broke
into the league was that dual threat part of it.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
And that's now out of his game.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
And if you look at the like you look at
Philadelphia Washington, they're the two best teams in the NFL
with the Reid option, which the Cowboys were exceptional at
when Zeke and Dak first came into the league, and
they had arguably their best teams, their thirteen win teams
his rookie year. That's what made that team such a
powerful dynamic offense. Was Dak could run. Now you really can't.
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And even I mean Jerry didn't want him to run
before this. Clarence stalked him into running, shame Dak into running.
I was there two days before he suffered that injury
in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I seem to remember that too.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
I just don't understand why you can't run a sprint?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Why?
Speaker 10 (29:01):
Why?
Speaker 4 (29:01):
What?
Speaker 6 (29:02):
What are we doing that you can't sprint? I mean,
look at all these coaches, look at Patrick Mahomes is
not fat. Patrick Brown probably won a five flat forty,
but he's nimble and he can sprint forward.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
What is why? Why is it so crazy that your
quarterback sprints forward and that's to pull pull a hamstring
just sprinting nine. Okay, Aaron Rodgers was sprinting.
Speaker 9 (29:24):
And doing fine, fight better than that at that point.
That's that's what since you bring up was doing it.
This is this is exactly how I've been hurt. This
is not out there examples. You should be sprinting every
day in practice.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
In man, people's body is a different.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
You should be spreading every day, and I got going
to do with it. You should be sprinting every day
in practice.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
James Jones and man Miles Boston every day in Brownsouston
used to do all that stuff and used to pull
his hamstring every year.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Okay, but he he did it throughout his career. That's
not been Deck's career arc because he's gotten older. Dog again,
you do. I mean, you got to be able to move.
I mean, listen, I love that.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
But he's not a wizard in the pocket. I mean,
the thing that made him great was all the things
that was part of his game.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
He can still extend play, yes, but what made it.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Great was all the things that are part of his game,
not being trying to sit there and beat Tom Brady
in the pocket.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
When we come back?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Should we come back?
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Speaker 8 (32:55):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Was it five coaching searches.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
You went through around here?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Man?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I think it was fun about five?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Him ed you've been here since Jerry said he won
a five hundred coaches could could found one?
Speaker 10 (33:05):
Did?
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
So we used that number five hundred again after the
last game. By the way, did you hear that? Yeah,
he said there would be five hundred coaches looking for
jobs if he made a coaching change when he went
down to the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Clarence Hill has been here for.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Nine and seven.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I got, I got, I got this insulted you missed
by a year.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I got, he got switches fire.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
You know, my first year on to be, first training camp,
want to be. That's when Switcher got arrested for having
a gun at the airport.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
You know what he said to me about that one
time I was supposed to interview him out at training
camp in Oxnard, And I was supposed to interview Jerry
actually and uh, Switcher was long gone and and Jerry
was late to the interview, which sometimes happens, believe it
or not. So I'm starting to look for Jerry. And
as I'm going toward, uh, the main lobby, which is
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in a separate building from the practice fields where the
practice fields are, I see Jim Auer, the trainer, going
the other way. He said, Hey, have you seen Jerry? Says, oh, yeah,
he's in the what do you called the gatehouse. He's
in the gatehouse talking to Switzer. And I said, Sweitzer,
what's Switzer doing here? He said, I think he wants
to borrow Jerry's bus for TEXASO weekend or something. So
I walked in into the main lobby and they're Switzer
(34:23):
and I tried to act surprised, even though I had
been told he was there. And he says, that's right, Worder,
it's me.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Barry's back.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
And I said are you and he says yeah. He
says I've caught your act on TV. And I said, oh,
is that what it is? In act?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
And he says yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Let me tell you heint nearly is good that men
carrying ef and gun through the airport for you classic Switzerland.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
So ed, is there a silver lining here at all?
From what I upset? And you know it's not. They're
not happy right now.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
So so you're it is right, they're not gonna be
happy to they have some playoff success, Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Mean it's up to it's up to the Cowboys front
office to make whatever decision they're going to make and
then make the best case in public to try to
get some level of acceptance. And like if they hire
Brian Scheinhimer, he deserves an opportunity to win or not, right,
That's what I would say. And at least you have
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the benefit of offensive continuity, which is what Dak is
gonna want.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Like, Dak just.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Committed fully to changing everything to play in the McCarthy
style of offense. Right, he talked about it with his
footwork and the timing of his release and all that stuff,
and all that's out the window if he has to
change schemes again for what this would be the third
time in his career, he'd got a different scheme. So
I think there's that benefit, whatever you think of that,
that's what you can sell.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Silver lining here, most trusted, I don't see a silver
lining at all.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
I don't see the you know, again, he deserves the
right to succeed and and and because it's not about him,
you know, there's no ankst necessarily toward him. It is
the process. A great guy, I think. You know, I've
asked them people, you know, what is his offensive philosophy?
You know he's not a West Coast guy. That's not
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his background, you know. And and you know he was
part of Seattle when the let Russ Cook Cook days
and Russ had his some of his best years he left.
You go back to him time with the Jets. He
was over run guy. He's he's really at core a
run oriented, run play action type guy.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
That's really what's best for that, you know, the play acts.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
That's why I agree with that. That's why I thought
Ben Johnson was such a guy because that's what they
do with the line play.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Of course, you got to get the running game. You
got your office line together. But that's that's that's what
he is, and so that's best for that.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
What if he brought Anthony Lynn here is his offensive coordinator.
Anthony Lin's a noted run game Yeah, he's run has
a history here with Parcels.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Can he can?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
He can?
Speaker 4 (37:05):
He getting shot? He worked together before.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
He's the run game coordinator.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
And if you made him offensive coordinator, I think he
could he could come.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
But then what we wouldn't do.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Is that a bracelet you're wearing, w w.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
W what wouldn't do?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (37:25):
So now not seem of a bird cage lighting, not
a silver lighting. Uh and that's because bird dropping.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Okay, So just because you don't give, like.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
You you really set Shottenheimer up to fail because as
soon as you lose two games, I mean, the fans
will be on his behind.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
And that schedule next year is a monster.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Now normally I don't say that, but this I looked
at it for a third place team and I was like, Yeah,
that's that's that's the nasty Skips.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So that's this thing. At this point in time, since
he's got a second interview, we're gonna we'll put him
in the league. What advice would you give Brian shot
him if he got the job.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Uh, let me see, I would say higher if you
don't think he's in the building already the very best
offensive line coach, Jerry will allow you to hire and
then go heavy on offense in the draft and get
all the pieces you need because your quarterback needs pieces
around him to elevate his game, and then go do
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your thing.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
It could it could it work? If they played the
same system and got better playmakers or more playmakers around
their quarterback, or you.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Gotta get more playmakers than But we said that since
they lost to Turf and should not be your second
best player, he should be like your fifth or sixth
best player.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Give it, guy.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Yeah, It's like one time I was telling my son
was playing au ball and I pulled the coach aside, like, dude,
my son should not be the second best player. He
should be like the fifth of the sixth best player.
We're gonna have a long season and we did beat fixing.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
What your son's reaction is when he hears this podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Oh, now, he'd probably say really, then his feelings would
have been hurt. I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Wouldn't suggest that I could give Brian Schottenheimer any significant advice.
I mean, he's a very engaging, relatable guy. I think
people will like him.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
I was gonna say that might be his best asset
is that he will come across as likable and energetic,
and that may give fans because fans are not going
to be familiar with him, this will be their first
real glimpse of him, and that may be enough to
earn him.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Just the smallest benefit of the doubt. Yeah, but he's
I mean, he's a different personality than like that. I
think that's the thing that got other than the eight
and eighths and the you know, inconsistencies with Garrett, I
think that's what ruined it with his introgram is that
he always acted it's kind of condescending towards the fans.
And I think the perception is although wrong, that Mike
McCarthy is not a very personable guy. I think he
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has a great sense of humor and engaged us well.
But Schottenheimer's on a whole different level in that regard.
So you agree, Clarence, I agree, I agree. I mean,
and I like Mike McCarthy. I think he he had
more personnel and people give me credit. That's what I said.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Yeah, you know, we had a great relationship with Mike,
probably like working with him.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Free agency. Pick one guy for the Cowboys that you
would franchise right now, franchise you mean to keep on
the franchise on franchise t anybody? There's no franchise tag guy.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
But if you could keep one player off the market.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Who Okay, that's two different conversations. Franchise, tag anybody.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Now you just mean one player. I don't want to
lose the free agency, correct.
Speaker 10 (40:27):
You know.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
I go back and forth on this because I have
problems paying a thirty one year old slack corner when
I have defensive tackles and defensive tackles who can who
I think can help.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I probably try to keep a Digga ZOOI.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
That's why I would, even.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Though I love Jordan Lewis, I'd be like, hey, I
could get him back.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Yeah, if you really want him back, you can pay
him back.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
Yeah, that's what I would do, because it's hard to
find young, big people who can play.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
I'm I would have said old Diggi zoo as well.
I want to keep Jordan Lewis though, uh and again,
and that's just it. And we keep talking about the market,
and everybody's talking about ghosting as well. And I don't
know what kind of market they're all gonna have. I mean,
we we think we overrate everybody here, right. Uh, Jordan
is at his age and coming off those injuries. Do
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you really think he's gonna have a robust market that's
gonna pay him big money?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Now, but here's the deal, Can you give me a
respectable deal?
Speaker 13 (41:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I agree, year, can you offer me three million of
the year not one point?
Speaker 5 (41:28):
No, no, I agree.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
But my point is there a lot of people think
they can be priced out. I don't know that everybody's
gonna be priced out, you know, and I don't know
what is gonna get.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
I mean, listen, is great.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Look at all the guys they lost on the defensive
line last year that are playing pretty well.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
But the only one that got decent money was Durrance
and he got like five millions six million a year.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I mean, why didn't they keep them?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
But that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
I'm just why didn't they keep them?
Speaker 5 (41:53):
And Dante they get big money?
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Exactly, I agree, But my point is that I think
they can bring somebody's guys back.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
But will they do they?
Speaker 5 (42:03):
That's the whole different conversation.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Next time we have this mash jock, who's the head
coach of the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
And now I'm just playing shoddy.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Next time we have this show, who's the head coach
of the Dallas Cowboy?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Are we all going to give the same answer just
like we did on Who's the one guy you cant
to keep off? For?
Speaker 7 (42:21):
I was gonna say Witting because they can't get they
can't get a deal done with Shoddy for the right money,
so they hire Witting.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
So who are you picking? I'll say Kellen Moore.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's this But he said next see he won't be
the coach by by the next show.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Well, well this is the question is who's going to
be the next coach?
Speaker 5 (42:41):
You're right?
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Just for the record, I'll be at the Senior Bowl
next Wednesday, So y'all have to do this what I mean, oh.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Finish, finishing. I'll go with Brian Shott. Now, okay, all
points to to Shoddy getting this job at this point
in time, and unless Jerry pull some really really by
the way, you wild welcome.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
You mentioned Rich Passatsia last and he's not as we
as far as we know, gotten an interview of any kind.
But there are certainly people in this building who think
a lot of them and think he's capable of being there.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Look, he brings substance.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Well, I'm gonna say Shoddy because if the thing don't
work with Shoddy, I mean, what are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (43:22):
You give him a second interview? All this momentum going
and he's paid a.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Lot of money to fly him in or something like
he was in his office probably anyway.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
I understand that. But they're doing a second interview. He's
the only one who's gotten the second interview so far.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
The momentum is building towards Shot. And now if he
don't get the job, then something broke down.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
All right, well something broke down to McArthur didn't get
the job. What about if they go into this and
the next weekend, Dion's here to watch his son's play
in the East West Shrine Bowl at AT and T Stadium.
We start seeing all this video of Dion and Jerry
together in a football environment and Shot he hadn't been higher,
(44:00):
and Kellen Morrise coaching in the Super Bowl. What are
we gonna think about all that?
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Does it get this done before Friday?
Speaker 10 (44:05):
Man?
Speaker 14 (44:07):
Right?
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
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At least somebody here at the tables team went and
won a playoff game. Wasn't the whole dog one thing?
I should say one the whole thing? Congratulations sir, appreciate it.
Take your bow, Take your bow.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
We took out bout.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You played such a huge role in the accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I put my well, yeah, yeah, I got this.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
The degree says the Ohio State University congratulators the degree.
I don't need to trust.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I worked with him closely. I need to see it.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So I'm giving your props. Man, I could give you
your prop I appreciate that. Some other people can't.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Yeh.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Can't you talking about this man?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
But you looked at me. Cut your eyes, pray at me.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
You're still trying to get over here.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
He helped me tickets to the to the Texas whooping.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Come on, man, stop it, okay, okay.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
I had no problem with him in his buck eye fandom.
Steve Dinner's the other hand, he texted me non stop.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I see, I don't do any of that.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I don't mess with nobody. I had no problem with
this man.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Congratulations.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
I told Rocks congratulations outside when I saw Yeah, I
didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
She low, she low, keeping she low.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Keep it okay, well, well yeah, that's rare. Low keep.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
My god.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
I saw Bobby.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
I saw Bobby Compden in the bowels little ATMT Stadium
after the Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
He was happy.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Old Bobby Carr.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Was in Cobo.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Work.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I was trying to turn this Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
A lot of a lot of NFL stuff coming here.
We just getting work. Now that the Jaguars are getting
rid of GM Trent Bulky. So that news going on
there and then right here in this building, Brian Schottenheimer offense,
the coordinated the last two years, getting a second interview
to day with the club. Yesterday's interview. They needed more
(02:39):
uncore performance from shotty.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Ed anybody else getting a second interview among the four
people who have interviewed, not to our knowledge at this point,
ed Smoke this thing out ed, I think it makes
sense from Jerry's.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Portfen, just don't say it makes sense. Just don't it
makes sense.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I want, I said Jerry's point of view, just.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Make him so let him. Let him talk.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
So he's obviously a very experienced NFL assistant coach twenty
five years, have been here for three years, has not
called the plays here. This is the only place among
the ten teams he's worked for where he was the
offensive coordinator but didn't call the plays. He deferred to
Mike McCarthy on that. So I think the reaction to
this is going to.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Be bad, awful. It's going to be worse, to bet.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Will it be worse than hiring Dave Campbell?
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Yes, because at least you could sell Campo that Campbell
was part of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I was gonna say yes you could, yes you could
go fail.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Campbell was part of Super Bowl era.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
He was part of Jimmy and he was continuation of that,
and we're going back to him past.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah, there's nothing to say.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
There's nothing to sell here, nothing continuity. And that's also
big on Jerry's agenda.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So we can continue to seven and ten.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
What part of the twelve and five teams too?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And the seven and ten team.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Okay again, say you criticized, and understandably so and fairly
so when you're the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry's said the
Cowboys can always have the best there is in coaching
because of their's our status as a franchise. And then
they don't even interview. This is people who are the
most coveted coaches in football who are being hired by
(04:18):
other franchises.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
This franchise is falling apart because of its overwhelming arrogance.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I mean, it's arrogance is beyond belief.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
And that's why they think that yes, anybody can should
be welcome to have this job. And we don't have
to interview these people as that people, and we could
just take our time getting around to people because people
will be happy to be here, and we can offer
Mike McCarthy whatever contract we want because he should just
be thankful to be here. And now you're like, Doug,
this is this is pathetic, and it's it's why they're
(04:47):
you know, it's they can have some talent and they
can do well, it's just hard to overcome the arrogance
that they have.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So you said pathetic, Are you saying the candidate pool?
What's that?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
The pathetic thing is that you.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Can't presume failure by Schottenheimer. He's never had the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No, well, it's not even it's bigger than Shottenheimer.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
It's the fact that you're doing all of this so
that you're getting yet another coach who's so happy to
have a job because ain't nobody's going to hire him?
That whatever you say, hey Shoddy, go jump this high? Yes, sir,
how long should I stay in the air? Because he's
happy to have the job because he ain't got no
other options? He don't even have a Coordinet option.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
If you don't get this job.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
He back to being a position coach making four hundred
thousand instead of you know what will Jerry, give him
for me?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Will he given that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
If that makes him the lowest paid coach, you'll get that.
So that's what I mean. It's bigger than shoddy. Not
just don't even have anything to.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Do with him.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
He can't Ultimately, it does have a lot to do
with how he performs on the role.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
He can't succeed in his role. That is what I'm saying.
So that's why I said, don't have anything.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
When you say that, all right, most trusted.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Or the problem is the process, And I think that's
what you're talking about it. It's how you're doing it.
You know, it's saying that you know, yes, he could
be successful. We can't say he won't be successful. And
so it's not personal about him him. It's about the
process and how you arrived at him. And is this
about winning?
Speaker 5 (06:08):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Is it about being comfortable? Is it about right? But
is that about winning?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
You know?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Anybody you talk to who's successful and wor I'm not
defending this, presume the guy's gonna found No, no, no.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
We're he's railing about the process, just like you railed
about them not interviewing the best coaches that are available.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
You don't even give a call to Aaron Glenn. You
don't even give a call.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well, he didn't want them.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
They didn't make a request they can be turned down,
like the Cowboys turned down Mike McCarthy going to Chicago.
They didn't even make a request to be turned down, Okay,
because they were still really that with McCarthy, that that whole.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Week when they could have done that. So it's it's
the writing process. It's it's the idea.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
That you were waiting, wasting time deciding whether Mike McCarthy
wanted to come back, and Mike McCarthy ultimately turned you down,
and then you kind of left with your bands down.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
And now you're trying.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
To You only knew for a year this might happen.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Yeah, you only, And now you're trying to grasp the
sprawls and and and the other issue is the guys
you've interviewed. Okay, the only only two guys you've interviewed
have been coveted by other teams.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Only two of the four who two of the four
interviewed by.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Another Yeah, that that that that we wanted by other teams,
And like these guys are just nobody else one are
the cowboys, the smartest guy in the room.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Do they know something nobody else knows?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
You're about do for one of those, doesn't it?
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I mean, that's that's that's just that's the problem with
the whole process.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And just like the notion if you meet with all
these top coaches and then pick Brian Schottenheimer, that's different, yes,
than the way it's happening.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
No.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
And then you have the witting component. You know, this
is really not about shots by getting wit on this
coach is about the next cot right, It's about getting
Witten on the staff so he can be the air
apparent and listen with may be a great coach okay
one day, you know, but here's a guy who's gotten
out of the mud everywhere he's gone, right, you know,
he talked about that, you know, coming from Tennessee and
(08:10):
he wasn't giving anything and everything else he earned it
became yes, call of Famer. The way he's going about
this coaching process, the way he's been put on the
pestle to be the next coach, that's not getting out
of the dirt. That's not what Aaron Glenn did. That's
not what Dan Campbell did. You know, work your way up,
earn this spot.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
That's what he's gonna do if he gets on the staff.
Here is it?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Are you earning your spot?
Speaker 9 (08:33):
You're already been given, like Jason Garrett, you know, Wade Phillips,
you're not earning anything.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
You know, you raised a good point when you say
it's about comfortability. But any of us who've ever talked
to anybody who's ever been successful in any line of work,
what do they say? You must be uncomfortable. You got
to experience the uncomfortability, so what so you can grow
and get better? And so when you could take this
comfortable process, it's it's bound to fail.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Okay, So Brian Schottenheimer is getting a lot of the
attention right now. Second job interview. Let's circle back to
Kellen Moore, who the Eagles offensive court, and he's busy
this week. Yes, the two two teams in the NFC
Championship are in the NFC East Washington and UH Philadelphia, and.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
They both have coaches who or coordinators who were just here,
just just here.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So is Kellen Moore out ed?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
That's a source? It is, It is one. It is
somebody who could be considered. But I guess I'll let
it ring.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I don't know that Kellen Moore's out, but I think
there's the sense I'm getting is that they're more confident
in Brian Schottenheimer as a leadership figure, uh, commanding presence
in the room than they are Kellen Moore. Like that's
their big concern about Kellen.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Moore and Kennedy command the room. I mean, he may
be a great off his mind. We've interviewed it.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
First of all, I don't be interview about a whole
lot of time interviewing Kellen Moore at this point, like
they is a three hour maximum. They didn't come close
to using all of their time, and and and.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Think about is how did this play? Wait?
Speaker 7 (10:17):
Wait wait wait wait hey your wife still cooks those
great butter biscuits.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Hey, kids, it was in a drive through interview.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Looks it was a zoom, wasn't a sit down meal.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
He's the only one that they didn't meet have it
right in person. You assume that they know him quite well.
He was their quarterback, he was their assistant coach, a
draft pick. That being said, they have a three hour
limit at this point to conduct a zoom with the
guy who's about to call plays. For the Eagles against
Washington and can't meet with him again until their season
(10:50):
over is over. And they did not use all three hours.
They did not even come close.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Have you have you talked to Kelly.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I've talked to people who might know what.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
No, have you talked to Killing.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I have not talked to kell So.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
What I'm saying is that when you start talking to Keller, yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
You know you're saying he can't fit free out.
Speaker 10 (11:10):
I thought you.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I'm asking if I got that Kelling.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Dirty word about dirty word, nasty word.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I mean, come on, you know that boy can't feel
three hours.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Brian Shoes, I mean exactly. My next thing, Shotty back
here for over time. The Shotty volunteered to take the
rest of that time. That's why they're reading again today. Listen,
I'll have the rest of that Kellen more time, and
I'll come in tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
So what will be interesting is if you make this
decision and Kellen Moore gets to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Okay, you pass on a Super Bowl offense coordinator. I
don't think that matters. That's a results oriented decision.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Well, and it is, but that's the results are in
the business.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Well, we're gonna pass so we're gonna pass on Aeron
Glenn because his defense got rocked last week.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
No, but what Eric Glynn has a history of track.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I'm just saying, though, these are the two finalists right
now of the two people that have been favored four
but two of the ones that considered the favorites the
non Rooney rules, the two of the ones that had
been considered the favorites outside of Dion, he was considered
the favorite early on not but anyway, the ones that
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considered the favorites. And so I'm saying that if Kellen
is your guy, and we know we've all talked about
him not being able to command in the room, you
particulally could sell Kellen as a Super Bowl offense coordinator.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
But you can sell not not inside I'm talking about
to the fan base.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Are we trying to win?
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Yeah, he's winning and winning if he gets to the
super Bowl. You can sell that to the fan base
and ultimately to the team better. You can sell the
guy that's never gotten there and the guy that nobody
else was trying to give a job to.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Are you waiting that long? If you're Jerry, you know
what he got to lose.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You waited.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
It's not a way.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
He didn't know Chang Gilly till then.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
I mean, I'm just saying, we've been through these coaching processes. Yes,
can you can wait, But what's the rush down?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
You get a guy that's in, how uch should you
You could have hired you could have interviewed him last week?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Then why did we wait there this week interview him?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
But if it's such a rush, I'm just asking if
he's maybe wanting to get this done with so we
can hire assistance, keep whatever.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
I think it was a strategic that the two Rooney
Rul candidates were first.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
No, Kellen was first.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
He was first after they had already scheduled those of
the interview They had to shoehorn killing in because you
had to get him done before.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
The weekend, and he wasn't gonna take you but a
couple of minutes.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
He was shoehorned in.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Exactly, he could easily fill three hours and he's gotten
none as far as we could tell.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Those interviews were already scheduled, and then we shoehorned Keilling
Moore in that day.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
But they could have talked to Leslie Fraser or Robert Salah,
who now appears to be the favorite for the Jacksonville
job head coaching job. They could have talked to them
while they were here about their interest in being a coordinator.
Should they make certain other head coaching hires again, so
that could have a benefit to that.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
No doubt. But that's part of the process.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Why are you you don't like the process?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
We already talked, right, But that's part of the process.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Why are you trying to pick a coordinator for your
head goats? You shouldn't be What do you always tell
me about the process.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
What if What if Kellen Moore or shot he said, Hey,
I really like to have Robert Salaz my defensive coordinator.
So any way we could talk to them.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Well then they Kellen mood go and talk to him.
But but busy, keep this in mind, keeping this in mind.
And you know that you've been doing it a long time.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I'm not telling you.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Nothing doing a long time.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
These guys already got people in place.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
They already Kellen Moore has already talked to potential hires
for every pure you know, they they already got guide
lined up. Hey, if I get this job, will you
come with me here? They've already got done. This is
not something you do after the fat.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
All right, let's get our first break in here. If
Brian Schottenheimer successful in his second interview and gets the
head coaching job, any ideas about potential staff, Let's talk
about that with Jean Jacques Taylor, ed warder clartellon NEWI Scruks.
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Back to media, Mash.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Media Mash right here trying to make sense of the
Dallas Cowboys head coaching search. Mike McCarthy no longer here.
He's waiting to talk to the Saints about their head
coaching job. He interviewed for Chicago. That went to Ben Johnson,
who left the Detroit Lions as their offensive corner. He's
now the Bears head coach. Reports our Aaron Glenn is
about to take the job with the New York Jets.
(17:49):
He played here for the Cowboys. Looks like he's going
to go there, so we know. Kellum Moore has been
interviewed Robert Sila has been interviewed, Leslie Fraser has been interviewed,
and Brian Schottenheimer is back for a second interview. Jean Shaqe,
Taylor ed Warder, He's Clarence Hill. I'm new he strugg
So I'll start with you most trusted. If Brian Schottenheimer
is the head coach, who do you anticipate? Who do
(18:13):
you think could be on the staff? He talked about
these guys all have homies and buddies and friends about
who they want?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
You said, all put together?
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Yeah, man, what you got. All I know is Jason
Witten's gonna be under staff. That's all I know right now?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
What roll?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Because Lone de Wellstewell is not on the staff. I'm
just saying Lound de Wells has been your tight ends
coaching to my knowledge, I don't think he's got a job.
And the only person I think off McCarthy Stav's got
a job so far as bones fossils in Tennessee and.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Luna could move the offensive line conceivably.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Didn't Dan Quinn try to hire him for that last
year when he left together.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
He's been his office line in his history.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
He could conceivably moved off his line if you wanted
to keep the same And Louda's probably gotten overtures from
other coaches and over other other stops as well. So
I mean, these guys are nothing's been set, but they're
they're you know, they're also being quartered by the teams.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
But tight end and run game coordinator right there that
Jason wentz tylely, think who.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Else is on that staff out of Argyle with him
at Liberty?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So anybody else.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Coording at a run game?
Speaker 6 (19:13):
In his first year as a pro coach, he got
Monday night football owns for his job.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
And how'd that go?
Speaker 14 (19:19):
Well?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
He got money night football.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
His hair looks better, His hair looked better.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
He got dirty work, dirty work that didn't go.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But he hadn't done that before.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
He's done football, before he'd been running the whole team
up in our guy.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Offensive man defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Would Shotty call play?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I assume he would.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Assume he don't only stay here under any circumstances if
he was to play.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, that's that goes with that saying.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I don't think much of the defensive staff is expecting
to come back here, regardless of who the next head coaches.
I mean, if you're thinking Brian Schottenheimer because of continuity,
that continuity might play on offense, but defensively, I think
there's going to be sweeping changes on that side of
the ball. I'm not sure Zimmer is coming. Mike was available, Yeah, Zimmer,
(20:09):
how come I don't interview him per head coach?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Exactly? Why when you get a shot of head COACHS?
Was wrong with Zimmer? He's been done it before.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
He came back here to save you last year, to
save Mike and.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
John and and and inconceivably right, Shottenheimer can beat the
office coordinator. You know you're still not and you windn't
can be able to stand up? Why is Zimer not
the head coachs? Why is Shottenheim or with Zimmer?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, so far in the process they have not talked
to Mike Zimmer about that exactly.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
So well, they've only known him for thirty years. Maybe
they don't need to talk to him but hire him.
But we haven't heard that at all.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
So two interviews that Dion Sanders not interviewed officially, Mike
Zimmer not interviewed officially. So just just names other people
have brought up and had wondered about. But they haven't
even spoken to them, and shot, he's the only one
named so far. We've heard that's got a second interview,
which I soon puts him in the lead.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Well, I mean, I think it's just it's one of
those gathering momentum things. He seems to be gathering momentum well.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
No doubt, which puts him in the league.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Yeah, you know, but I mean, you don't do the
second interview unless you're trying to hire a guy.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
You know, you bring a guy back for the second time.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
It's like the other when Ben came back and came
in to interview with Chicago they hired and Eric lenn
goes back and interviews with the Jets.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
They hired it.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
So I've heard, I've heard the name Matt Eberflus for
defensive coordinator. Thoughts anybody else here that's a.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Good defensive coordinat He just wasn't a good head coach.
He's fine as a defensive coordinator, and what is he familiar?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I mean, I think he would have a lot of
internal support here. I think he did a good job.
I mean, they wanted to make him a defensive coordinator
here before.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
I mean he's a quality coach. Ain't nobody mad about
eber Flues. He'll have your defense playing good, solid defense.
And you don't have to worry about him because he's
been a head coach. He can handle everything over there.
If you want to be exclusively offensive, get Pep talks again.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
And you know, Mike Irving was on his YouTube channel.
If you go see it, it's like Baron Bones operation.
We got enough money to prove that YouTube channel.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Just where is this coming from? Is this going somewhere?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Shooting off the hip the day man, I'm just talking.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Is this going somewhere?
Speaker 6 (22:18):
He was not happy with Schottenheim. He said the cowboy
did the high coach for the morale of the team.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
In morale.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Right, he said, he does. This does not inspire him.
He's his dobbers down. His morale is low. He like
most fans.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
So he's not going to do the big thing on
the scoreboard before games. If Shottenheimer's the head coach.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
He's not going to do the big pump up video
that's already been done.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Tell them, tell them that you just hd they just
got a quarterback. He should be happy about that.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
You know, I'm just saying, though, But my overall point is.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Just looking at our Twitter mentions, your Twitter mentions, fans
are not happy. This is not exciting anybody. People are
talking about leaving. You know, I'm done with the Cowboys.
We'll see that really happens. But from from a year
in which the apathy was an all time and I've
been around here a long time.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
We've been around a long time, You've been around a
long time.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
There's a lot of empty seats that last game.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
The apathy for this team coming into the season was
as low as I've ever seen. This fan base is
more disillusioned as I've ever seen. And put this on
top of it, after this past season, I.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Won't give you like ninety seven thousand people at games now.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Well they might be half from other teams because they
know destination, but I mean, it's it's just it doesn't inspire.
There's nothing about this that's inspiring for fan base that's starving.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
What will it do to the players? Do you think
that's who needs to be inspired?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Let's sa Another thing is the players, I think why why?
Speaker 14 (23:43):
But what?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Okay, they don't need to be inspired by their Boston No,
but what.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
The most things we're talking about was not about him
inspiring the team, was about him being comfortable. It's about
keeping the status quo, and that is the wrong attitude.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I agree that the fan base is going to be
outraged at, asked, apathy, apathetic, even worse. But if you win,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And that's the whole thing is can you can you win?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
And would Jerry do this if he was convinced Schottenheimer
wouldn't win?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But see here's why that doesn't.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Mean, Yeah, why he doesn't? Why did he trade for Mingo? Mingo?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I mean, did Jerry do any day giving up a
fourth round pick.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
No, Jerry lies to himself at every turn.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
That's why you can convince yourself that two rookie starters
playing different.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Later I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I mean he literally estimated that, you know, he got
the zig Ziggler.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I'm talking about the officsive line or office line, because
they let the people go and they tried to sell
why it would work with the rookies.
Speaker 14 (24:46):
Right.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
So the fact that he can convince himself that, oh shot,
he can come in here and do this and that,
and that's that's that's on point, that's on message for him,
that's on brand for him, and then midway through the
season he'll be like, huh, I guess this didn't work.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I guess I'm gonna have to move wing up sooner
than I thought.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yes, I mean it's dude. I mean, they they need
somebody to come in and slap them because you can't.
I mean, you just can't continually going around lying to yourself,
because that's how.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You end up with these problems.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Go spend that ten million and get Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Do you think all of us started with the misclibration
of the McCarthy situation, Like, oh, absolutely, we think we've
got leverage. He doesn't have any other options. We can
offer them whatever we want and he's going to take it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's the arrogance, man. It's like, well they still you know,
and I've said it for a minute now.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
It's some of this is.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
They win their marketing deals. Like they destroy you when
you say I want to be this of the Cowboys official,
this official right, because they say, hey, we'll take you know,
the vast majority of the money. But you go out
and tell everybody else that you're the official this of
the Cowboys and you make your money that way. They
do that and they win so often that they've convinced
themselves that we can do that with coaches, with players,
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with everybody, because we're the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
You should just be happy to be here.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
But if you objectively look at the last thirty years,
you can't possibly come to that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But they lie to themselves, so they do.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Since KYB being the richest franchise in sports over the
last thirty years, being the most watched team in sports,
I'm just look at it.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Over the week, throw a lot of one o'clock kickoffs
towards the end of the Look look at that, but.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Look at look at last year cowboys blowout loss to
Green Bay was viewed by five million more people than
Green Bay's lost to Philadelphia same same time.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
The fascination with the franchise.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
But the thing that they're missing this they've gone down
a little bit is you know, they're losing a little
bit of star power every year.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
You know, you got Dak, you got CD, you got Micah,
that's it.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
And so before you had a collection the galaxy, it
starts eighty nine probos this or that. Now you know,
you you lose those and you lose another bit of
visible ability. You lose another bit of stuff you can
advertise to you know, they need to shake it up,
but they won't. Why because they love comfortability.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
So I assume everyone's reactions on their own social media
channels where people were happy about the prospect of Brian Schotenheimer.
If Schottenheimer does get the job, what is Jerry the
ultimate marketer sell Dak?
Speaker 4 (27:26):
That's what he said he's gonna sell. People really are
not enamored of him either, not not anymore. When we
asked him after the last game, how do you sell
hope to your fan to your fan base, he said,
we got one of the best quarterbacks in football, and
we're gonna protect him, and that's gonna be it. That's
where he went with it. That was his answer. I
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protect him on both things, he said, a well protected,
superstar quarterback. He's one of the best quarterbacks in football.
He has been sometimes so.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
And it's crazy, and I get back to the protection thing,
and you look at what's the landscape the NFL and
landscape quarterback, which is the mobile, duel threat quarterback.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
And that's what deck at the last four guys standing
right now, deck three hundreds rushing.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
That's what Dak was coming out of Mississippi State, and
what he was was special about him when he broke
into the league was that dual threat part of it.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
And that's now out of his game.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
And if you look at the like you look at
Philadelphia Washington, they're the two best teams in the NFL
with the Reid option, which the Cowboys were exceptional at
when Zeke and Dak first came into the league, and
they had arguably their best teams, their thirteen win teams
his rookie year. That's what made that team such a
powerful dynamic offense. Was Dak could run. Now you really can't.
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And even I mean Jerry didn't want him to run
before this. Clarence stalked him into running, shame Dak into running.
I was there two days before he suffered that injury
in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I seem to remember that too.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
I just don't understand why you can't run a sprint?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Why?
Speaker 10 (29:01):
Why?
Speaker 4 (29:01):
What?
Speaker 6 (29:02):
What are we doing that you can't sprint? I mean,
look at all these coaches, look at Patrick Mahomes is
not fat. Patrick Brown probably won a five flat forty,
but he's nimble and he can sprint forward.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
What is why? Why is it so crazy that your
quarterback sprints forward and that's to pull pull a hamstring
just sprinting nine. Okay, Aaron Rodgers was sprinting.
Speaker 9 (29:24):
And doing fine, fight better than that at that point.
That's that's what since you bring up was doing it.
This is this is exactly how I've been hurt. This
is not out there examples. You should be sprinting every
day in practice.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
In man, people's body is a different.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
You should be spreading every day, and I got going
to do with it. You should be sprinting every day
in practice.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
James Jones and man Miles Boston every day in Brownsouston
used to do all that stuff and used to pull
his hamstring every year.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Okay, but he he did it throughout his career. That's
not been Deck's career arc because he's gotten older. Dog again,
you do. I mean, you got to be able to move.
I mean, listen, I love that.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
But he's not a wizard in the pocket. I mean,
the thing that made him great was all the things
that was part of his game.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
He can still extend play, yes, but what made it.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Great was all the things that are part of his game,
not being trying to sit there and beat Tom Brady
in the pocket.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
When we come back?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Should we come back?
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Speaker 8 (32:55):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Was it five coaching searches.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
You went through around here?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Man?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I think it was fun about five?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Him ed you've been here since Jerry said he won
a five hundred coaches could could found one?
Speaker 10 (33:05):
Did?
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
So we used that number five hundred again after the
last game. By the way, did you hear that? Yeah,
he said there would be five hundred coaches looking for
jobs if he made a coaching change when he went
down to the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Clarence Hill has been here for.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Nine and seven.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I got, I got, I got this insulted you missed
by a year.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I got, he got switches fire.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
You know, my first year on to be, first training camp,
want to be. That's when Switcher got arrested for having
a gun at the airport.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
You know what he said to me about that one
time I was supposed to interview him out at training
camp in Oxnard, And I was supposed to interview Jerry
actually and uh, Switcher was long gone and and Jerry
was late to the interview, which sometimes happens, believe it
or not. So I'm starting to look for Jerry. And
as I'm going toward, uh, the main lobby, which is
(34:02):
in a separate building from the practice fields where the
practice fields are, I see Jim Auer, the trainer, going
the other way. He said, Hey, have you seen Jerry? Says, oh, yeah,
he's in the what do you called the gatehouse. He's
in the gatehouse talking to Switzer. And I said, Sweitzer,
what's Switzer doing here? He said, I think he wants
to borrow Jerry's bus for TEXASO weekend or something. So
I walked in into the main lobby and they're Switzer
(34:23):
and I tried to act surprised, even though I had
been told he was there. And he says, that's right, Worder,
it's me.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Barry's back.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
And I said are you and he says yeah. He
says I've caught your act on TV. And I said, oh,
is that what it is? In act?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
And he says yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Let me tell you heint nearly is good that men
carrying ef and gun through the airport for you classic Switzerland.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
So ed, is there a silver lining here at all?
From what I upset? And you know it's not. They're
not happy right now.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
So so you're it is right, they're not gonna be
happy to they have some playoff success, Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Mean it's up to it's up to the Cowboys front
office to make whatever decision they're going to make and
then make the best case in public to try to
get some level of acceptance. And like if they hire
Brian Scheinhimer, he deserves an opportunity to win or not, right,
That's what I would say. And at least you have
(35:27):
the benefit of offensive continuity, which is what Dak is
gonna want.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Like, Dak just.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Committed fully to changing everything to play in the McCarthy
style of offense. Right, he talked about it with his
footwork and the timing of his release and all that stuff,
and all that's out the window if he has to
change schemes again for what this would be the third
time in his career, he'd got a different scheme. So
I think there's that benefit, whatever you think of that,
that's what you can sell.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Silver lining here, most trusted, I don't see a silver
lining at all.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
I don't see the you know, again, he deserves the
right to succeed and and and because it's not about him,
you know, there's no ankst necessarily toward him. It is
the process. A great guy, I think. You know, I've
asked them people, you know, what is his offensive philosophy?
You know he's not a West Coast guy. That's not
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his background, you know. And and you know he was
part of Seattle when the let Russ Cook Cook days
and Russ had his some of his best years he left.
You go back to him time with the Jets. He
was over run guy. He's he's really at core a
run oriented, run play action type guy.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
That's really what's best for that, you know, the play acts.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
That's why I agree with that. That's why I thought
Ben Johnson was such a guy because that's what they
do with the line play.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Of course, you got to get the running game. You
got your office line together. But that's that's that's what
he is, and so that's best for that.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
What if he brought Anthony Lynn here is his offensive coordinator.
Anthony Lin's a noted run game Yeah, he's run has
a history here with Parcels.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Can he can?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
He can?
Speaker 4 (37:05):
He getting shot? He worked together before.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
He's the run game coordinator.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
And if you made him offensive coordinator, I think he
could he could come.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
But then what we wouldn't do.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Is that a bracelet you're wearing, w w.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
W what wouldn't do?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (37:25):
So now not seem of a bird cage lighting, not
a silver lighting. Uh and that's because bird dropping.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Okay, So just because you don't give, like.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
You you really set Shottenheimer up to fail because as
soon as you lose two games, I mean, the fans
will be on his behind.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
And that schedule next year is a monster.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Now normally I don't say that, but this I looked
at it for a third place team and I was like, Yeah,
that's that's that's the nasty Skips.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So that's this thing. At this point in time, since
he's got a second interview, we're gonna we'll put him
in the league. What advice would you give Brian shot
him if he got the job.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Uh, let me see, I would say higher if you
don't think he's in the building already the very best
offensive line coach, Jerry will allow you to hire and
then go heavy on offense in the draft and get
all the pieces you need because your quarterback needs pieces
around him to elevate his game, and then go do
(38:24):
your thing.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
It could it could it work? If they played the
same system and got better playmakers or more playmakers around
their quarterback, or you.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Gotta get more playmakers than But we said that since
they lost to Turf and should not be your second
best player, he should be like your fifth or sixth
best player.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Give it, guy.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Yeah, It's like one time I was telling my son
was playing au ball and I pulled the coach aside, like, dude,
my son should not be the second best player. He
should be like the fifth of the sixth best player.
We're gonna have a long season and we did beat fixing.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
What your son's reaction is when he hears this podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Oh, now, he'd probably say really, then his feelings would
have been hurt. I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Wouldn't suggest that I could give Brian Schottenheimer any significant advice.
I mean, he's a very engaging, relatable guy. I think
people will like him.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
I was gonna say that might be his best asset
is that he will come across as likable and energetic,
and that may give fans because fans are not going
to be familiar with him, this will be their first
real glimpse of him, and that may be enough to
earn him.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Just the smallest benefit of the doubt. Yeah, but he's
I mean, he's a different personality than like that. I
think that's the thing that got other than the eight
and eighths and the you know, inconsistencies with Garrett, I
think that's what ruined it with his introgram is that
he always acted it's kind of condescending towards the fans.
And I think the perception is although wrong, that Mike
McCarthy is not a very personable guy. I think he
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has a great sense of humor and engaged us well.
But Schottenheimer's on a whole different level in that regard.
So you agree, Clarence, I agree, I agree. I mean,
and I like Mike McCarthy. I think he he had
more personnel and people give me credit. That's what I said.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Yeah, you know, we had a great relationship with Mike,
probably like working with him.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Free agency. Pick one guy for the Cowboys that you
would franchise right now, franchise you mean to keep on
the franchise on franchise t anybody? There's no franchise tag guy.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
But if you could keep one player off the market.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Who Okay, that's two different conversations. Franchise, tag anybody.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Now you just mean one player. I don't want to
lose the free agency, correct.
Speaker 10 (40:27):
You know.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
I go back and forth on this because I have
problems paying a thirty one year old slack corner when
I have defensive tackles and defensive tackles who can who
I think can help.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I probably try to keep a Digga ZOOI.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
That's why I would, even.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Though I love Jordan Lewis, I'd be like, hey, I
could get him back.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Yeah, if you really want him back, you can pay
him back.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
Yeah, that's what I would do, because it's hard to
find young, big people who can play.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
I'm I would have said old Diggi zoo as well.
I want to keep Jordan Lewis though, uh and again,
and that's just it. And we keep talking about the market,
and everybody's talking about ghosting as well. And I don't
know what kind of market they're all gonna have. I mean,
we we think we overrate everybody here, right. Uh, Jordan
is at his age and coming off those injuries. Do
(41:15):
you really think he's gonna have a robust market that's
gonna pay him big money?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Now, but here's the deal, Can you give me a
respectable deal?
Speaker 13 (41:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I agree, year, can you offer me three million of
the year not one point?
Speaker 5 (41:28):
No, no, I agree.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
But my point is there a lot of people think
they can be priced out. I don't know that everybody's
gonna be priced out, you know, and I don't know
what is gonna get.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
I mean, listen, is great.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Look at all the guys they lost on the defensive
line last year that are playing pretty well.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
But the only one that got decent money was Durrance
and he got like five millions six million a year.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I mean, why didn't they keep them?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
But that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
I'm just why didn't they keep them?
Speaker 5 (41:53):
And Dante they get big money?
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Exactly, I agree, But my point is that I think
they can bring somebody's guys back.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
But will they do they?
Speaker 5 (42:03):
That's the whole different conversation.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Next time we have this mash jock, who's the head
coach of the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
And now I'm just playing shoddy.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Next time we have this show, who's the head coach
of the Dallas Cowboy?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Are we all going to give the same answer just
like we did on Who's the one guy you cant
to keep off? For?
Speaker 7 (42:21):
I was gonna say Witting because they can't get they
can't get a deal done with Shoddy for the right money,
so they hire Witting.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
So who are you picking? I'll say Kellen Moore.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's this But he said next see he won't be
the coach by by the next show.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Well, well this is the question is who's going to
be the next coach?
Speaker 5 (42:41):
You're right?
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Just for the record, I'll be at the Senior Bowl
next Wednesday, So y'all have to do this what I mean, oh.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Finish, finishing. I'll go with Brian Shott. Now, okay, all
points to to Shoddy getting this job at this point
in time, and unless Jerry pull some really really by
the way, you wild welcome.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
You mentioned Rich Passatsia last and he's not as we
as far as we know, gotten an interview of any kind.
But there are certainly people in this building who think
a lot of them and think he's capable of being there.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Look, he brings substance.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Well, I'm gonna say Shoddy because if the thing don't
work with Shoddy, I mean, what are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (43:22):
You give him a second interview? All this momentum going
and he's paid a.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Lot of money to fly him in or something like
he was in his office probably anyway.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
I understand that. But they're doing a second interview. He's
the only one who's gotten the second interview so far.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
The momentum is building towards Shot. And now if he
don't get the job, then something broke down.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
All right, well something broke down to McArthur didn't get
the job. What about if they go into this and
the next weekend, Dion's here to watch his son's play
in the East West Shrine Bowl at AT and T Stadium.
We start seeing all this video of Dion and Jerry
together in a football environment and Shot he hadn't been higher,
(44:00):
and Kellen Morrise coaching in the Super Bowl. What are
we gonna think about all that?
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Does it get this done before Friday?
Speaker 10 (44:05):
Man?
Speaker 14 (44:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
So ed warder Jaque Taylor, I knew he scruts Media
Mashed produced by Chris Beam, got Jazz, got Joshi, everybody
here at Dallas Cowboys dot Com and make it happen.
Thank you much. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
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