January 27, 2025 • 46 mins
In this pre-press conference show the guys explain why the Cowboys are hiring Brian Schottenheimer as the franchise’s 10th head coach, mentioning offensive continuity with Dak and the 25-year veteran NFL coach’s ability to command the room.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
This is Mick shot streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And the official Dallas Cowboys at.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh yes, come on, good, what a minutes not work?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Can I heard around that? I heard it? No you didn't.
I was a sneeze. That's what I was wanting.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I have the fight song.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
No, we don't have time for that. Stuffs talking about. Alright,
there we go on mixed shots.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Ever take it? You got it. There were la la
la la.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
We're on the twenty twenty five officially, now.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Right, and you have and this is a football player.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
There is one football player on the football field, just
a had some rehab out there. Maybe at zeke he
can still be picked up. He can be picked up
by one of these days available right, All right, this
is your one hour warning or is it one hour
(01:37):
and fifteen minute warning?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Well, the start of the press conference on time.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
It's at eleven am. Press conference today, Brian Schottenheimer, your
new head coach.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And you guys were right, You guys were right.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I didn't think they would have a coach at this point,
and you guys said they would, So you got me
on that.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
We eliminated Kellen Moore a week ago.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Basically a week ago.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It was last Tuesday that we said that we thought
we'd be talking about a new head coach on Monday.
And that's right, you have it, a new head coach,
and we've got two teams in the Super Bowl, Kansas
City and Philadelphia. And enough about that, let's move on
to twenty twenty five and the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You guys were kind of huddled together after I left
after the show, as if y'all were scheming or something.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Scheming.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Did y'all have anything to do with this last that
was last last.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Month, Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday. Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
By the way, before we get started on all that, ever,
since this is the anniversary of a big day in
your life.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
What day is it?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
January twenty seventh?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yep, nineteen ninety one?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh? Was that what we won?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Wide right? January twenty January twenty.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Seventh, And I thought it was intol February.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
No, No, it wasn't until later that they started playing
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I don't feel any different.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Also feel older, you're one year old.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I don't feel anything happier thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Moment was a happy moment, though, it was a glorious moment.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Tears.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I told you about the silly press conference. I was
finally waiting to make my moment, you know, with the
media all around after the game, and I started crying,
and as I wiped my eyes, they were all going
to other areas to inter because LT.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Good job ever since, see you later.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's also the eighty year anniversary, the celebration of the
liberation of Aswitzchwitz. Schwitz can't spit it up.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I've been watching those movies recently, a few of those
movies on Yeah, crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Man, was this a diversionary tactic?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No? No, you just said it was an anniversary. I said,
well it was another in Hey, well we're going to
be did I write? Why is that?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I have to mention?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I lost my running back, my full back from Grambling
State University. He was part of about nineteen eighty Black
college championship team at Grambley State University. Robert Parham ended
up getting a Grambling Hall of Fame. He died of
a heart attack, and he was a heck of a fullback.
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He's one of those guys that was he was a
smart runner, but he wasn't talented.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He knew where his blockers were at all times, and.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
He reminded me a lot of Le'Veon bell On how
he was able to follow his blockers from step to
step and maximize, uh, every every carry that he had.
So I just had to mention that since since you
bringing up Auschwitz so.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, they brought up yesterday. I forgot it was five
years Kobe.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Wow, oh, they were saying, remembering Kobe, I did see
that this morning and.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It was it was a Sunday morning too, all right,
So get that out eleven o'clock press conference this morning.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
And it's gonna be a big show.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
By the way, it got a age set up.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Did you come through the front door upstairs or did
you go to the back door?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You always anyone's all still work.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
All set up, all set up in the atrium area
here at the Star. It's going to be a big shindig.
Of course, carried live here Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I'm
sure all the local TV.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Station stations were all prom.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
NFL Network probably be carrying it live, and so here
we go. It's the Brian Schottenheimer erab Dallas Cowboys football.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, these are the Cowboys. I think Ben Johnson got
a live interview in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
That is a good point, Bro, that is a good point. Ben.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Just hide the side boom, Let's go home, you know,
let's let's get ready to move.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Is Pete Carroll the biggest news that happened in Vegas
that day?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Well, we saw him running around out there on the
football field. That's about it passes. That was his celebration.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
So yeah, this is tenth tenth time.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Cowboys of ten head coach and coach nine by Jerry And.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
The announcement came down at eight thirty or so.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
On eight forty five somewhere in there, and I had
to spring in the action to kind of rewrite my column.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Who'd you think it would be? Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I thought, by then that's what was going to happen.
He I had to write, and I didn't want to
wait till eight o'clock at night to start, So I
thought I was covering myself. And I wrote about how
you know the Cowboys, this whole thing is about continuity.
And I said one of the biggest parts of the
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continuity was the fact that the Cowboys have Will McLay
here and they have some continuity in their front office.
Not saying he's the general manager, but he's sort of
the kind.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Of like general manager.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And I was pointing out that just because you hire
a general manager is not the panacea of success in
the NFL panacea, because there was five teams out there
looking for new gms, right and I was listening what
all the other teams do, but the Cowboys still had
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Mike McCarthy. And then I kind of switched it to say, well,
here's the reason also why they are hiring Brian Schottenheimer
as the new head coach, to continue some continuity on
the offense where you've spent the majority of your salary
cap funds on the offense, and you better take care
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of the offense.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
And so I thought this was a move to be
able to do.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
That, because whoever you hired elsewhere as the head coach,
the first question in the interview had to be who's
your offensive court because you didn't just lose a head coach,
you lost your offensive coordinator too. Now do you want
to start from scratch for the third time? In five
years or do you want to continue with what you
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had going on? And I think that's probably the one
of the main reasons that Brian Schottenheimer is now the
Cowboys head coach.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, as far as the higher is concerned. To me,
personnel is personnel. It's it's the people that you have
working for you underneath that. To me, I've always thought that, Uh,
the figurehead is there and that's the way it's supposed
to be.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
He's gonna take all the blame.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
But those guys, those minions, for lack of a better term, uh,
they better be able to work and better be able
to communicate. So along with Schottenheimer, we've let go of
a few guys as well, right.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Well they left, I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
They're all under not under contract officially. We know of
John Fossil's moving on to Tennessee. Al harris has moved
on to Chicago. Mike McCarthy has an interview supposedly midweek
with New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Oh he does, okay, because I was saying I haven't
seen him.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Seen reports that he midweek should have an interview with
New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I think between him and Kelly could.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Be and so then and I think they can go
ahead and talk with Kellen this week. Of course they
couldn't become of course, it's another couple of weeks before
he would become available. And let's let's also Joe Brady
would be another one. You would think that New Orleans
might be talking to you.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I read something he took his name out.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Okay, okay, And let's.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Also understand this. Everybody's like, what had an interview Ben Johnson?
They didn't interview Aaron Glenn, shocking that one day after
they lost. Each of them had a job right, that
was planned out. The agents had all that knocked out way.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
It wasn't like, oh, let's interview this guy, Oh let's
hire him. No, that was.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Worked out well in those interviews, virtual interviews taking place previously.
And so that was the criticism about the process for
the Cowboys. Is waiting on the Mike McCarthy decision, where
you missed the opportunity to interview virtually Aaron Glenn or
Ben Johnson January. You could have during for the for Detroit,
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a team with a first round by that they were
able to conduct interviews. But it just tells you that
they were not on the radar.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
No they were not not at all.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
He was right and here's the exactly, here's here's the
weird thing.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And I understood he wasn't missing an opportunity. He had
already made the decision that those aren't guys that fit here.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You know, And I think Aaron Glenn is going to
be a great leader. But the first question is who's
your offensive coordinator?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So you know, the Cowboys got criticized in two thousand
and seven because they bout interviewed ten people before they
settled on Wade Phillip.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
They did what the Chicago Bears did this Right, now.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
They're getting criticized that they only interviewed three people, and
it's like two of those I guarantee you they were
fishing for a defensive coordinator because you can interview Salah right,
and who was the.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Leslie Fraser?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You can interview those guys right for a head coaching job,
but you can also pick their brain about your defense, right,
So it's not and it's just like now all these
names are coming out for offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator. Well,
I think Matt eberflu is going to be the defensive coordinator.
Whoever's the offense is is going to be the next
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Brian Schottenheimer because the head coach is going to take
care of the offense. But while you're interviewing these guys
for those jobs, because it's an upgrade, you can also
pick their brain about well, I see you coached wide receivers,
or I see you coach linebackers, and you can pick
their brain about that too.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You're not just.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Limited to talking about the coordinator job. So there's ways
around things that people just don't understand well.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
To me, once again, figurehead is one thing, but we
do have an opportunity to start over in some areas.
Whoever he hires for to coach the defensive back, to
replace Al Harris, whoever he has to replace your special
teams coach, those are the guys that I'm hoping they
are going to be really fierce coaches that are going
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to bring a type of a culture here. You know
that's not necessarily better than last year, but it's definitely
gonna be different. Bring something fresh to the table and
let us see, you know what it's going to be
like to have a different energy around here, someone who
he might be able to communicate better with the DBS
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than Al Harris, he might be a guy that comes
with something different than.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Al Harris came with. And I love Al Harris. I
wish he would have stayed here. But if you're going
to bring.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
In someone different, then let that man do his job
and hopefully it can add to something positive and like
I said, create a different culture around here.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Sometimes you just need a different voice.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I remember when Barry Switzer got let go, before it
even happened, I was walking down the hallway at the
ranch and I ran into Ernie Zampeazi and he was like, Oh,
we're all out of here. He goes, We're out of here.
He goes, you know, he goes, you know, I've been
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doing this here for what was it, four years? And
he said, sometimes you just need a different voice. And
he was right, yeah, because they were all hot or
the majority of course, right, and they brought in you know,
that's when they brought in chan Gaily. But again, if
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you look at.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Their history of hiring head coaches.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
The success was always banked on who the offensive.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Coordinator was, and I think it basically came down to
whether they were going to hire Brian Schottenheimer or Kellen Moore, right,
and I think they they did talk with Pete Carroll.
But what you're looking at there is if they had
hired Pete Carroll, then Brian Schottenheimer would have been the
offensive coordinator slash play caller, right, okay, and so but
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I and getting back to Schottenheimer versus Kellen Moore, I
think the quarterback was a driving force.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Shot out about it. Yeah, no doubt about that. We
even talked about it last week. Yeah, yeah, we said
that that's what he liked, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Not necessarily that he didn't like Kellen Moore, but I
think he probably preferred Shottenheimer. And then I think from
the standpoint of the traits you look for in a
head coach, being able to command a room and so forth.
Shottenheimer also Phil has that.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Yes, I've never I believe in talk just hearing I've
heard him.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Talk stay for the press, okay, Okay, yeah, he because
they in.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Fact, during the season, you know, the coordinators do their
press conference on Monday of the week, okay, And so
they shot in the Heimer and Zimmer and Fossil would
talk to the media and it wasn't You could find it.
You could find it on Dallas Cowboys dot com or
YouTube or whatever. But you usually the local TVs and
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radio they're not using those because they use the head coach.
I would tell her producers at CBS, I would say,
let's use some Schottenheimer. I love hearing what Schottenheimer has
to say, and I didn't listen to it very much.
He's just got it.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
He can command the room.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
He has well. And I did have gone on YouTube
and seen some of the speeches that the dad made
and but Shot you could just see hear how sharp
he is he was, and how well he knew other
players around them, like the opponents and this guy you know,
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you give up a little nugget about in the background
on whoever.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It might be.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Uh. And so I think he's gonna he probably from
day one here connected well with Will McLay from a
scouting standpoint. I think that's a very important thing. But
it's a very important thing for the head coach to
be in lockstep with your vice president of player personnel
and with Stephen Jones. I think both Will and Steven
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they were on team Shotty Uh from the get go
on this myself, having not talked to either one of
them about it, but I can see and you can
see where Schottenheimer developed a very quickly a good relationship
with Dak Prescott because he has those people's skills. He
connects with people.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, is there any Is there any chance that Brian
would hire another assistant, just an assistant head coach.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
There is a chance.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's about what I'm hoping, you know, bring some color
in here.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I'd love to see Leslie Fraser come in here and
work with the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I mean, is there is he thinking.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
About I would think that there will be people along
those lines. Yeah, all right, and let's get into that
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All right, we continue with mix shines. We're leading you
up to the press conference, which you can hear right
here starting at eleven AM or thereabouts, Brian Schottenheimer, the
new head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. We were talking
about the potential makeup of the staff. Mickey's already touched
upon Matt Eberflus being a candidate and the likely defensive
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coordinator here, and there's been a number of candidates that
have been mentioned for other positions on the staff and
Everson throughout who might aston head coach? B And I
think that here's the deal with Schottenheimer is he's been around.
I mean, we're talking a guy with twenty five years
of NFL experience, and he prior to coming here, and
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of course in twenty twenty two, he was an analyst
here on the defensive side of the football, looking at
that more so than the offense at that time, because
that was the year Kellen Moore was the offensive coordinator here.
Prior to that, he was with Jacksonville for a year,
hired by Urban Meyer as a pass game coordinator. Prior
to that, for three years, he was the offensive coordinator
under Pete Carroll with the Seahawks. He was quarterbacks coach
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at Indianapolis for two years prior to that, for one
year the Georgia offensive coordinator and who was with the
Saint Louis Rams for three years as an offensive coordinator
from twenty twelve to twenty fourteen. They had absolutely no weapons.
Taevon Austin. Danny Amandola led them in receptions in twenty twelve,
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and Tavon Austin was their first round draft pick, number
eight overall, and he was probably their best threat offensively.
Nothing against Tavon Austin, but there were not much in
the way of weapons there. So there was. Sam Bradford
was there his first year, got hurt his second year,
and they had Kellen Clemens, Austin Davis, and Sean Hill
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Hill as his quarterbacks prior to that. Ever since.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Here, no, I was gonna say because I've.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
The last two we mentioned, Austin Davis and Sean Hill
were undrafted quarterbacks, and.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I've made a list of the quarterbacks he got to
deal with when he's been an offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And prior to that, he got Mark Sanchez and the
Jets to the AFC Championship.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
As a rookie.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, in two thousand and nine, they led the league
in rushing.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
And they went to the AFC title game twice during
his time there.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
But my point on mentioning all of that is the
fact and then he coached with his dad prior to
that with the Chargers and going back to when he
got out of college at Florida where he's the backup
quarterback on a national championship team in nineteen ninety six,
he coached with his dad in Kansas City, I think
Green Bay maybe for one year. But anyway, all of
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that to say, he's got a lot of connections around
the league and so it'll be interesting to see And
a lot of that has to do with availability though too,
and so.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Man, there's a lot of guys availabile available availability.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Because you have seven all these coaching changes.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So Staff's got basically, you know, tore up. Well, here's
the list of his quarterbacks he's had, starting with the
Jets Okay in six, Chad Pennington for two years, Brett
Favre at the end of his career two thousand and eight,
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and then Bill mentioned Mark Sanchez as a rookie. They
started a raw rookie in two thousand and nine. They
went to the AFC title game with a rookie. Then
he mentioned the Rams, Sam Bradford for one year. Sam
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Bradford gets hurt, gets hurt again, and then it was
Kellen Clemens, Austin Davis, and Sean Hill.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
He goes to Seattle and he gets Russell.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Wilson, and if I got my notes right, that season
with twenty twenty with Seattle, they scored a club record
four hundred and fifty nine points. Russell Wilson had forty
touchdowns passing that year, and they averaged twenty eight point
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seven points a game. After that, he ended up as
the past game coordinator in Jacksonville with a rookie quarterback
who started maybe before he was ready, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
So again, well and that what happened with urban Meyer
that year?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I mean that Yeah, it was down though too.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I mean he had to work for two different head
coaches at that time. So it's not like he's had
who's who of quarterbacks to deal with during his career.
Because a lot of people say, well, he's had all
these coordinator jobs.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
What did he do well? Okay, but who did he
have right?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Well? And here's one thing they got a voice to
me last night, Well, how is anything going to be
different when you've got the same guy that was on
the staff with Mike McCarthy. How are things going to
be different than when Mike McCarthy was here, And.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I was going to ask that same question.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Sounds like he had some ideas.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
We just we just went through the entire coaching staff
and how many coaches are going to stick around?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Maybe one or two?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, so, and how many people? How many coaches are
on a coaching staff, like twenty, yes, so we're talking
virtually the entire coaching staff is going to be different.
That's how things are going to be different. And just
because Brian Schottenheimer was the offensive coordinator doesn't mean he's
going to call the plays like Mike McCarthy called the place.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
That's what I was saying earlier. I don't really care
who the head coach is. I want to see what
these guys down here are going to do. This is
what a coach has created down here. Of course, the
coach can talk all he wants, The head coach can
talk all he wants, but if his assistant coaches in
on the same type of feelings in the same type
of direction, then you're wasting your time.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
In this quarter. And this coach has a jump start
on any coach you brought in here, because he's been
here for three years. He knows how it works here
behind the scenes, and he knows the ross or backwards
and forwards and uh.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And he is bringing in uh, how do you say
his name? Uh, the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Matt Eberflees, and he is he is a lot, he's
on a lot. He's going to be here.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Well it's not official official, but they're going to talk
to him about it.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
With somebody like that has a hell of a defense
And here's another guy.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Wasn't his problem as the head coach?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
No, it was not.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
And we've seen countless times where very good coordinators haven't
turned out to be very good head coaching. And we'll
see what happens with Schottenneimer here. But he does have
the traits and.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Or very good head coaches didn't turn into head coaches
until they had a really good offensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Nor turner. Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You saw what you went through.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
With Dave Shula.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, that wasn't my fault. He snitched on me, so
he snitched on me to Daddy.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
So no.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So, But truly, the culture can be created on different levels,
and that's what I want around. It is something different
to where when we go into a game, we're not
thinking completely thinking offense. When we go into a game,
I want us to be known here comes the Cowboys,
and boy, their defense is a hell of a defense.
(28:29):
That's what I want people to think when they think
about us. Yes, we got offense, easy to sign. It's
easy to notice on offense what's out there. But when
you start talking about defense, you've got.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Some very.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
How can I put it underrated ways or hidden ways
where you can have a good defense without it having
to be so overblown. It can be a culture that's like,
you know, part of this entire building, without you having
to go out and have superstars necessarily on at every position.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
By the way, as far as ibra Flus is concerned,
he was the linebackers coach here from twenty eleven to
twenty fifteen. Sewn Lee was the linebacker.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
And then he boy, I haven't drooling like that in
a long time.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Then twenty sixteen and seventeen he added the title passing
game coordinator to his title. And I just know, and
Mickey knows from experience here, Yeah, Rod Marinelli was the
defensive coordinator and even Prior to that, you had Rob
Ryan here. Ibra Flus had a major role in what
(29:44):
was going on defensively, even when he was just a
position coach.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I think he might have come here with.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Rob Ryan. Yeah, twenty eleven. That makes sense.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Because he was in Cleveland when Rob why.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
That's track was in that's right.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
And Jason Garrett's first year as the head coach was
twenty eleven and that's when heber flew his ulti year.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right, yeah, because prior to that he was defensive coordinator
University of Missouri.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
By the way, Okay, seven and eight, and by the way,
those were really good years at Missouri, made it all
the way to the Big twelve championship game. Who'd they
play this?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Unfortunately they ran in Oklahoma twice.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I didn't even have to know that. I knew.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You didn't even have to say I knew that's what
The only reason he brought that up was simply because
of that Oklahoma reference.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
So what are you thinking, Mickey?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
So getting him as the defensive coordinator and obviously he
knows people, and they're already talking to some people and
I see all this stuff. That's like they're bringing in
this guy as a coordinator. They're not going to name
them the coordinator, but they may name them a position coach.
And I think a different voice sometimes. I think nothing
(31:09):
against Dan Quinn with Michael Parsons, but I think he
took another step working with Mike Zimmer. It was a
different voice and and and sometimes that that helps. And
maybe in the secondary, you know, whoever they bring in
to do that, that a different voice may help these guys.
(31:31):
Maybe you can get Trayvon Diggs two when he's on
the team and you're going through warm ups, the stretch
and whatever, that he might do it with the rest
of the team instead of over to the side by
himself with Parsons like their own little group there. Maybe
(31:53):
another voice comes in and goes, hey, no, that's not
the way I do things. And sometimes that that's what
you need.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
And it depends sometimes it just depends on who that
word comes from, right, that might be It might it
might be a guy who means well, and I'm just
gonna pick Harris.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Let's say Harris means well.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
We know he's a great coach, but let's just say
his words fell deaf on certain player's ears. Well, then
this other uh person in the same this other coach
in the same position. His way of saying it, it
might appeal to the players better. And yeah, I know
that sounds a little prima donash right, Well, I didn't
like the way that sounded.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
But sometimes you just.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Uh gravitate towards other people for no particular reason, just
by by the way his demeanor is.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And think about this. Think about when you were young
and whatever, you were playing whatever level, and you had
played for this guy. Yeah, and then the new coach
came in. You got your ass and gear right because
you wanted to prove yourself to the new guy that.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Hey, I'm I'm worth it, right, And you might have tried.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But it's easier if that new guy comes in and
says something that clicks.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
And you hear right, and and you know what you like?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
He knows, Yes, had a new coach come in.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And to go, that's not what you want. You want
the other side of that, and that can't happen. It
has happened to me, It's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I heard.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I can't ever think of his name. The coach for
Atlanta Falcons, head coach Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Falcons right now, Raheem Morris, yeah, Raheem Morris.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I was there in Tampa and I heard how Raheem
Morris spoke to his defensive back group, which is a
great group. You had, Uh the guy from Bergner a
Khalid you had?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You had?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Was it a god? Was it one of the brothers
who was one of the safeties out there? The dbs
were very good there as a group. And the way
he taught those.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Guys a lot of brothers playing safety.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, that's why they're good there. But I havn't said that. Yeah,
you had players on that squad. The way he spoke
to them, I just sat in on the meeting and
the way he spoke to the terminology that he used,
(34:23):
the way he connected with him, It's like they were
all connected on the.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Same string in the same room. That's coaching. To me.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
He had that presence in that locker room, in that
meeting room, and I was just sitting back because they
allowed me to come into listen to his game plan
and to me the way he said things, it made
me visualize what I needed to do before I actually
did it.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
That's great that you mentioned it, Rahie Morris, because I
randomly during the season when I went behind enemy Lines.
Listening to Atlanta the week of the Atlanta again, Yeah,
and I'm listening to Raheem Morris would come on a
local radio station and he was great talking and and
Schottenheimer's got that same ability and shot. It comes so naturally.
(35:15):
That's I'm excited about if I get the opportunity to
host the Brian Schottenheimer Show.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I don't I won't even have to prepare for that.
I just throw.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
A popping out there and you'll just run with it.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
But to make up.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
But it's that ability to communicate.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
It's the verbiage, know exactly how to use those words
to where mentally you can see exactly what they're talking.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Why Raheem Morris was targeted early that this guy is
going to be a head coach in this league.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I'll never forget.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I've sat there, and I've been in the meeting rooms
with some hell of the coaches, and the way he
just this is the way he verbalized everything's like that.
I was gonna say, my Tomas the same type of thing.
I sat there and I went the way he said that.
It made me think I can go out and do
that drill right now. But I'm forty five years old. Right, So,
but that's what he made you feel, I said, in
(36:09):
my mind, I'm thinking that's exactly how I would have
tried to explain that to another defensive bag group.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
And I'll guarantee you that for this press conference today,
Schottenheimer will be pre prepared for whatever gets thrown at him,
because some of it's not gonna be friendly. It's gonna
be some some unfriendly fire.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Well, yeah, first of all, you know what's gonna be
the number one thing? How are you gonna run this team?
If you got your owner always over your shoulder, that's
gonna be. It'll that's gonna be. That's why you.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Interviewed for a head coaching job. Things like that. He'll
be prepared.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I'll go out on a limb right now and say
he'll have answers for everything comes his way.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
All right, my man, I have to go prepared.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
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Speaker 1 (39:45):
So did you catch Madison Keys winning the Australian Open?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
And it's about time. Boy, she's been struggling for years.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I know it was a It was a pretty neat
thing to see, especially figuring out who she beat, because
that girl not only is she good, she's huge and
took her down.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Well, Madison's I've always I've watched her since she came
into UH to the pros, and it's all the problem
with her has always been a footwork. It's a little
bit slow. Yeah, she's just a little bit slow, but
her power is there. Boy, the accuracy is there.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
She didn't hold back, she went after it. I enjoyed watching.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I wonder if that's gonna end up being a catapult
for her. Yeah she should. She should be doing better
than she's doing than she did.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Okay, Well that's coming up soon. East West Shrine Games
Week Thursday at at and T Stadium. They're already practicing
out at North Texas and we kind of skipped right
over the conference championship games.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Well, you know, I had the bills.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Thought I thought they were I thought this was the
time that he was gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
So do you think they got jobbed on the fourth
and one?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I think, how can I put this?
Speaker 1 (41:18):
It's like everybody that watched it on TV thought he
had the first down Allen when the quarterback sneak.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
We never saw a good angle from the camera, I know.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I mean I wanted to see the angle from the
guy that spotted it as a first.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I wanted to see if we could see the ball.
I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
See Josh front side, a better shot of him front
side so I could see where the ball was, because
once he turned, it compromised everything in regards to what
the referees and what you.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Called that gave him.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
That opened the door for the referees to kind of
screw it up a little bit because he didn't really
if I think if he stay forward and just done
what he always did and just you know, put it
over there. But Casey was ready for that every time.
And I gotta give Chris Jones man some love this guy.
First of all, you see him, he was crying there.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
The entire he was crying a national answer.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
I think he cried the entire game.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
But what you saw was even though the stats didn't
show it all for him.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I think they had him with like two tackles.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah, I know that did not depict how instrumental he
was in controlling that line of scrimmage for the Kansas
City Chiefs. Because even though they were pretty successful over
fifty percent on the tush push and all that kind
of stuff, those key moments such as the fourth down,
(42:41):
it's when he really showed what the leader he is, man.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I mean, where is his flowers?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah? What is his follower?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Absolutely everyone's talking about Mahomes And we saw Kelsey off
the interview and Taylor smith Man, where is Chris.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Jones talked to that man?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Been on the stage man, I mean the emotions that
he had, it all added to uh, you know, positivity,
It added to production.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
It made him a better player that day.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
They even had Cousins spags on. I didn't talk to him,
you know. And and Romo pointed out, I can't remember.
It was the first time they were at the goal
line and they were going to run the quarterback sneak
and he said that Alan generally doesn't go up the middle.
He goes over left guard, and I'll be darned if
(43:34):
that's not where.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Twice and they would they they knew it. And that's
what he pointed out.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Casey knows this as well, right, because they were ready
for it.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Once again, they were like six for nine on that.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
But it was the ones that they didn't convert is
what hurt the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
Did the Eagles surprise you?
Speaker 3 (43:55):
No, they played just when you look, when you look
at the Cowboys season, as bad as it was, we
were in pretty much every game except.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
For two, that's right, those were the ones. Those Eagles games.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
They almost beat the Commanders twice, right, beat them once
and had the lead nineteen what was it, sixteen?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
And here comes here comes the Commander magic out of
no where. Somebody screws up and next thing you know,
they sneak out the wind.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Well, nothing against dan Quinn because he did a hell
of a job, but you can't give up two hundred
and twenty nine yards, right and you Kevin touchdown.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
You can't have your offense fumbling the ball three or
four times.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, and I don't know that that's on him, but
to lose four, no.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
That is not on him. But that's where he had
to overcome, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
When you give up that many was keeping notes, right,
Barkley had two touches for two touchdowns and it's.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
Fourteen to three.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
So anyway, Uh, pretty good super Bowl coming up in
New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
You got anything to do there?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Now?
Speaker 5 (45:09):
I gotta carry your.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Pass me where all the big parties follow.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
All right, well, we gotta get ready to get you
a hand off to the press conference. Cowboys announcing today.
Press conference posts a scheduled start at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
Brian Shott and Himer.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
As the cowboys tenth head coach in the franchise history,
thanks to Bill Everson Mickey, and we'll be back with
Mick shots next Mondays.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
See you then, Oh Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (45:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh yes, come on, good, what a minutes not work?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Can I heard around that? I heard it? No you didn't.
I was a sneeze. That's what I was wanting.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I have the fight song.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
No, we don't have time for that. Stuffs talking about. Alright,
there we go on mixed shots.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
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Speaker 4 (01:06):
We're on the twenty twenty five officially, now.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Right, and you have and this is a football player.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
There is one football player on the football field, just
a had some rehab out there. Maybe at zeke he
can still be picked up. He can be picked up
by one of these days available right, All right, this
is your one hour warning or is it one hour
(01:37):
and fifteen minute warning?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Well, the start of the press conference on time.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
It's at eleven am. Press conference today, Brian Schottenheimer, your
new head coach.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And you guys were right, You guys were right.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I didn't think they would have a coach at this point,
and you guys said they would, So you got me
on that.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
We eliminated Kellen Moore a week ago.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Basically a week ago.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It was last Tuesday that we said that we thought
we'd be talking about a new head coach on Monday.
And that's right, you have it, a new head coach,
and we've got two teams in the Super Bowl, Kansas
City and Philadelphia. And enough about that, let's move on
to twenty twenty five and the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You guys were kind of huddled together after I left
after the show, as if y'all were scheming or something.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Scheming.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Did y'all have anything to do with this last that
was last last.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Month, Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday. Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
By the way, before we get started on all that, ever,
since this is the anniversary of a big day in
your life.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
What day is it?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
January twenty seventh?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yep, nineteen ninety one?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh? Was that what we won?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Wide right? January twenty January twenty.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Seventh, And I thought it was intol February.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
No, No, it wasn't until later that they started playing
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I don't feel any different.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Also feel older, you're one year old.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I don't feel anything happier thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Moment was a happy moment, though, it was a glorious moment.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Tears.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I told you about the silly press conference. I was
finally waiting to make my moment, you know, with the
media all around after the game, and I started crying,
and as I wiped my eyes, they were all going
to other areas to inter because LT.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Good job ever since, see you later.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's also the eighty year anniversary, the celebration of the
liberation of Aswitzchwitz. Schwitz can't spit it up.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I've been watching those movies recently, a few of those
movies on Yeah, crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Man, was this a diversionary tactic?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No? No, you just said it was an anniversary. I said,
well it was another in Hey, well we're going to
be did I write? Why is that?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I have to mention?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I lost my running back, my full back from Grambling
State University. He was part of about nineteen eighty Black
college championship team at Grambley State University. Robert Parham ended
up getting a Grambling Hall of Fame. He died of
a heart attack, and he was a heck of a fullback.
(04:12):
He's one of those guys that was he was a
smart runner, but he wasn't talented.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He knew where his blockers were at all times, and.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
He reminded me a lot of Le'Veon bell On how
he was able to follow his blockers from step to
step and maximize, uh, every every carry that he had.
So I just had to mention that since since you
bringing up Auschwitz so.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, they brought up yesterday. I forgot it was five
years Kobe.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Wow, oh, they were saying, remembering Kobe, I did see
that this morning and.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It was it was a Sunday morning too, all right,
So get that out eleven o'clock press conference this morning.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
And it's gonna be a big show.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
By the way, it got a age set up.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Did you come through the front door upstairs or did
you go to the back door?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You always anyone's all still work.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
All set up, all set up in the atrium area
here at the Star. It's going to be a big shindig.
Of course, carried live here Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I'm
sure all the local TV.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Station stations were all prom.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
NFL Network probably be carrying it live, and so here
we go. It's the Brian Schottenheimer erab Dallas Cowboys football.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, these are the Cowboys. I think Ben Johnson got
a live interview in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
That is a good point, Bro, that is a good point. Ben.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Just hide the side boom, Let's go home, you know,
let's let's get ready to move.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Is Pete Carroll the biggest news that happened in Vegas
that day?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Well, we saw him running around out there on the
football field. That's about it passes. That was his celebration.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
So yeah, this is tenth tenth time.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Cowboys of ten head coach and coach nine by Jerry And.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
The announcement came down at eight thirty or so.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
On eight forty five somewhere in there, and I had
to spring in the action to kind of rewrite my column.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Who'd you think it would be? Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I thought, by then that's what was going to happen.
He I had to write, and I didn't want to
wait till eight o'clock at night to start, So I
thought I was covering myself. And I wrote about how
you know the Cowboys, this whole thing is about continuity.
And I said one of the biggest parts of the
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continuity was the fact that the Cowboys have Will McLay
here and they have some continuity in their front office.
Not saying he's the general manager, but he's sort of
the kind.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Of like general manager.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And I was pointing out that just because you hire
a general manager is not the panacea of success in
the NFL panacea, because there was five teams out there
looking for new gms, right and I was listening what
all the other teams do, but the Cowboys still had
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Mike McCarthy. And then I kind of switched it to say, well,
here's the reason also why they are hiring Brian Schottenheimer
as the new head coach, to continue some continuity on
the offense where you've spent the majority of your salary
cap funds on the offense, and you better take care
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of the offense.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
And so I thought this was a move to be
able to do.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
That, because whoever you hired elsewhere as the head coach,
the first question in the interview had to be who's
your offensive court because you didn't just lose a head coach,
you lost your offensive coordinator too. Now do you want
to start from scratch for the third time? In five
years or do you want to continue with what you
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had going on? And I think that's probably the one
of the main reasons that Brian Schottenheimer is now the
Cowboys head coach.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, as far as the higher is concerned. To me,
personnel is personnel. It's it's the people that you have
working for you underneath that. To me, I've always thought that, Uh,
the figurehead is there and that's the way it's supposed
to be.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
He's gonna take all the blame.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
But those guys, those minions, for lack of a better term, uh,
they better be able to work and better be able
to communicate. So along with Schottenheimer, we've let go of
a few guys as well, right.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Well they left, I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
They're all under not under contract officially. We know of
John Fossil's moving on to Tennessee. Al harris has moved
on to Chicago. Mike McCarthy has an interview supposedly midweek
with New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Oh he does, okay, because I was saying I haven't
seen him.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Seen reports that he midweek should have an interview with
New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I think between him and Kelly could.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Be and so then and I think they can go
ahead and talk with Kellen this week. Of course they
couldn't become of course, it's another couple of weeks before
he would become available. And let's let's also Joe Brady
would be another one. You would think that New Orleans
might be talking to you.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I read something he took his name out.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Okay, okay, And let's.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Also understand this. Everybody's like, what had an interview Ben Johnson?
They didn't interview Aaron Glenn, shocking that one day after
they lost. Each of them had a job right, that
was planned out. The agents had all that knocked out way.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
It wasn't like, oh, let's interview this guy, Oh let's
hire him. No, that was.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Worked out well in those interviews, virtual interviews taking place previously.
And so that was the criticism about the process for
the Cowboys. Is waiting on the Mike McCarthy decision, where
you missed the opportunity to interview virtually Aaron Glenn or
Ben Johnson January. You could have during for the for Detroit,
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a team with a first round by that they were
able to conduct interviews. But it just tells you that
they were not on the radar.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
No they were not not at all.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
He was right and here's the exactly, here's here's the
weird thing.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And I understood he wasn't missing an opportunity. He had
already made the decision that those aren't guys that fit here.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You know, And I think Aaron Glenn is going to
be a great leader. But the first question is who's
your offensive coordinator?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So you know, the Cowboys got criticized in two thousand
and seven because they bout interviewed ten people before they
settled on Wade Phillip.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
They did what the Chicago Bears did this Right, now.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
They're getting criticized that they only interviewed three people, and
it's like two of those I guarantee you they were
fishing for a defensive coordinator because you can interview Salah right,
and who was the.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Leslie Fraser?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You can interview those guys right for a head coaching job,
but you can also pick their brain about your defense, right,
So it's not and it's just like now all these
names are coming out for offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator. Well,
I think Matt eberflu is going to be the defensive coordinator.
Whoever's the offense is is going to be the next
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Brian Schottenheimer because the head coach is going to take
care of the offense. But while you're interviewing these guys
for those jobs, because it's an upgrade, you can also
pick their brain about well, I see you coached wide receivers,
or I see you coach linebackers, and you can pick
their brain about that too.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You're not just.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Limited to talking about the coordinator job. So there's ways
around things that people just don't understand well.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
To me, once again, figurehead is one thing, but we
do have an opportunity to start over in some areas.
Whoever he hires for to coach the defensive back, to
replace Al Harris, whoever he has to replace your special
teams coach, those are the guys that I'm hoping they
are going to be really fierce coaches that are going
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to bring a type of a culture here. You know
that's not necessarily better than last year, but it's definitely
gonna be different. Bring something fresh to the table and
let us see, you know what it's going to be
like to have a different energy around here, someone who
he might be able to communicate better with the DBS
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than Al Harris, he might be a guy that comes
with something different than.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Al Harris came with. And I love Al Harris. I
wish he would have stayed here. But if you're going
to bring.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
In someone different, then let that man do his job
and hopefully it can add to something positive and like
I said, create a different culture around here.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Sometimes you just need a different voice.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I remember when Barry Switzer got let go, before it
even happened, I was walking down the hallway at the
ranch and I ran into Ernie Zampeazi and he was like, Oh,
we're all out of here. He goes, We're out of here.
He goes, you know, he goes, you know, I've been
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doing this here for what was it, four years? And
he said, sometimes you just need a different voice. And
he was right, yeah, because they were all hot or
the majority of course, right, and they brought in you know,
that's when they brought in chan Gaily. But again, if
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you look at.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Their history of hiring head coaches.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
The success was always banked on who the offensive.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Coordinator was, and I think it basically came down to
whether they were going to hire Brian Schottenheimer or Kellen Moore, right,
and I think they they did talk with Pete Carroll.
But what you're looking at there is if they had
hired Pete Carroll, then Brian Schottenheimer would have been the
offensive coordinator slash play caller, right, okay, and so but
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I and getting back to Schottenheimer versus Kellen Moore, I
think the quarterback was a driving force.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Shot out about it. Yeah, no doubt about that. We
even talked about it last week. Yeah, yeah, we said
that that's what he liked, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Not necessarily that he didn't like Kellen Moore, but I
think he probably preferred Shottenheimer. And then I think from
the standpoint of the traits you look for in a
head coach, being able to command a room and so forth.
Shottenheimer also Phil has that.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Yes, I've never I believe in talk just hearing I've
heard him.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Talk stay for the press, okay, Okay, yeah, he because
they in.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Fact, during the season, you know, the coordinators do their
press conference on Monday of the week, okay, And so
they shot in the Heimer and Zimmer and Fossil would
talk to the media and it wasn't You could find it.
You could find it on Dallas Cowboys dot com or
YouTube or whatever. But you usually the local TVs and
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radio they're not using those because they use the head coach.
I would tell her producers at CBS, I would say,
let's use some Schottenheimer. I love hearing what Schottenheimer has
to say, and I didn't listen to it very much.
He's just got it.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
He can command the room.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
He has well. And I did have gone on YouTube
and seen some of the speeches that the dad made
and but Shot you could just see hear how sharp
he is he was, and how well he knew other
players around them, like the opponents and this guy you know,
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you give up a little nugget about in the background
on whoever.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It might be.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Uh. And so I think he's gonna he probably from
day one here connected well with Will McLay from a
scouting standpoint. I think that's a very important thing. But
it's a very important thing for the head coach to
be in lockstep with your vice president of player personnel
and with Stephen Jones. I think both Will and Steven
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they were on team Shotty Uh from the get go
on this myself, having not talked to either one of
them about it, but I can see and you can
see where Schottenheimer developed a very quickly a good relationship
with Dak Prescott because he has those people's skills. He
connects with people.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, is there any Is there any chance that Brian
would hire another assistant, just an assistant head coach.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
There is a chance.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's about what I'm hoping, you know, bring some color
in here.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I'd love to see Leslie Fraser come in here and
work with the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I mean, is there is he thinking.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
About I would think that there will be people along
those lines. Yeah, all right, and let's get into that
a little bit when we come back here on mixed shots.
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Speaker 4 (20:24):
All right, we continue with mix shines. We're leading you
up to the press conference, which you can hear right
here starting at eleven AM or thereabouts, Brian Schottenheimer, the
new head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. We were talking
about the potential makeup of the staff. Mickey's already touched
upon Matt Eberflus being a candidate and the likely defensive
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coordinator here, and there's been a number of candidates that
have been mentioned for other positions on the staff and
Everson throughout who might aston head coach? B And I
think that here's the deal with Schottenheimer is he's been around.
I mean, we're talking a guy with twenty five years
of NFL experience, and he prior to coming here, and
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of course in twenty twenty two, he was an analyst
here on the defensive side of the football, looking at
that more so than the offense at that time, because
that was the year Kellen Moore was the offensive coordinator here.
Prior to that, he was with Jacksonville for a year,
hired by Urban Meyer as a pass game coordinator. Prior
to that, for three years, he was the offensive coordinator
under Pete Carroll with the Seahawks. He was quarterbacks coach
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at Indianapolis for two years prior to that, for one
year the Georgia offensive coordinator and who was with the
Saint Louis Rams for three years as an offensive coordinator
from twenty twelve to twenty fourteen. They had absolutely no weapons.
Taevon Austin. Danny Amandola led them in receptions in twenty twelve,
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and Tavon Austin was their first round draft pick, number
eight overall, and he was probably their best threat offensively.
Nothing against Tavon Austin, but there were not much in
the way of weapons there. So there was. Sam Bradford
was there his first year, got hurt his second year,
and they had Kellen Clemens, Austin Davis, and Sean Hill
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Hill as his quarterbacks prior to that. Ever since.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Here, no, I was gonna say because I've.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
The last two we mentioned, Austin Davis and Sean Hill
were undrafted quarterbacks, and.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I've made a list of the quarterbacks he got to
deal with when he's been an offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And prior to that, he got Mark Sanchez and the
Jets to the AFC Championship.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
As a rookie.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, in two thousand and nine, they led the league
in rushing.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
And they went to the AFC title game twice during
his time there.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
But my point on mentioning all of that is the
fact and then he coached with his dad prior to
that with the Chargers and going back to when he
got out of college at Florida where he's the backup
quarterback on a national championship team in nineteen ninety six,
he coached with his dad in Kansas City, I think
Green Bay maybe for one year. But anyway, all of
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that to say, he's got a lot of connections around
the league and so it'll be interesting to see And
a lot of that has to do with availability though too,
and so.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Man, there's a lot of guys availabile available availability.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Because you have seven all these coaching changes.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So Staff's got basically, you know, tore up. Well, here's
the list of his quarterbacks he's had, starting with the
Jets Okay in six, Chad Pennington for two years, Brett
Favre at the end of his career two thousand and eight,
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and then Bill mentioned Mark Sanchez as a rookie. They
started a raw rookie in two thousand and nine. They
went to the AFC title game with a rookie. Then
he mentioned the Rams, Sam Bradford for one year. Sam
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Bradford gets hurt, gets hurt again, and then it was
Kellen Clemens, Austin Davis, and Sean Hill.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
He goes to Seattle and he gets Russell.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Wilson, and if I got my notes right, that season
with twenty twenty with Seattle, they scored a club record
four hundred and fifty nine points. Russell Wilson had forty
touchdowns passing that year, and they averaged twenty eight point
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seven points a game. After that, he ended up as
the past game coordinator in Jacksonville with a rookie quarterback
who started maybe before he was ready, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
So again, well and that what happened with urban Meyer
that year?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I mean that Yeah, it was down though too.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I mean he had to work for two different head
coaches at that time. So it's not like he's had
who's who of quarterbacks to deal with during his career.
Because a lot of people say, well, he's had all
these coordinator jobs.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
What did he do well? Okay, but who did he
have right?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Well? And here's one thing they got a voice to
me last night, Well, how is anything going to be
different when you've got the same guy that was on
the staff with Mike McCarthy. How are things going to
be different than when Mike McCarthy was here, And.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I was going to ask that same question.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Sounds like he had some ideas.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
We just we just went through the entire coaching staff
and how many coaches are going to stick around?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Maybe one or two?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, so, and how many people? How many coaches are
on a coaching staff, like twenty, yes, so we're talking
virtually the entire coaching staff is going to be different.
That's how things are going to be different. And just
because Brian Schottenheimer was the offensive coordinator doesn't mean he's
going to call the plays like Mike McCarthy called the place.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
That's what I was saying earlier. I don't really care
who the head coach is. I want to see what
these guys down here are going to do. This is
what a coach has created down here. Of course, the
coach can talk all he wants, The head coach can
talk all he wants, but if his assistant coaches in
on the same type of feelings in the same type
of direction, then you're wasting your time.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
In this quarter. And this coach has a jump start
on any coach you brought in here, because he's been
here for three years. He knows how it works here
behind the scenes, and he knows the ross or backwards
and forwards and uh.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And he is bringing in uh, how do you say
his name? Uh, the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Matt Eberflees, and he is he is a lot, he's
on a lot. He's going to be here.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Well it's not official official, but they're going to talk
to him about it.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
With somebody like that has a hell of a defense
And here's another guy.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Wasn't his problem as the head coach?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
No, it was not.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
And we've seen countless times where very good coordinators haven't
turned out to be very good head coaching. And we'll
see what happens with Schottenneimer here. But he does have
the traits and.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Or very good head coaches didn't turn into head coaches
until they had a really good offensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Nor turner. Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You saw what you went through.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
With Dave Shula.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, that wasn't my fault. He snitched on me, so
he snitched on me to Daddy.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
So no.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So, But truly, the culture can be created on different levels,
and that's what I want around. It is something different
to where when we go into a game, we're not
thinking completely thinking offense. When we go into a game,
I want us to be known here comes the Cowboys,
and boy, their defense is a hell of a defense.
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That's what I want people to think when they think
about us. Yes, we got offense, easy to sign. It's
easy to notice on offense what's out there. But when
you start talking about defense, you've got.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Some very.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
How can I put it underrated ways or hidden ways
where you can have a good defense without it having
to be so overblown. It can be a culture that's like,
you know, part of this entire building, without you having
to go out and have superstars necessarily on at every position.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
By the way, as far as ibra Flus is concerned,
he was the linebackers coach here from twenty eleven to
twenty fifteen. Sewn Lee was the linebacker.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
And then he boy, I haven't drooling like that in
a long time.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Then twenty sixteen and seventeen he added the title passing
game coordinator to his title. And I just know, and
Mickey knows from experience here, Yeah, Rod Marinelli was the
defensive coordinator and even Prior to that, you had Rob
Ryan here. Ibra Flus had a major role in what
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was going on defensively, even when he was just a
position coach.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I think he might have come here with.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Rob Ryan. Yeah, twenty eleven. That makes sense.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Because he was in Cleveland when Rob why.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
That's track was in that's right.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
And Jason Garrett's first year as the head coach was
twenty eleven and that's when heber flew his ulti year.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right, yeah, because prior to that he was defensive coordinator
University of Missouri.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
By the way, Okay, seven and eight, and by the way,
those were really good years at Missouri, made it all
the way to the Big twelve championship game. Who'd they
play this?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Unfortunately they ran in Oklahoma twice.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I didn't even have to know that. I knew.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You didn't even have to say I knew that's what
The only reason he brought that up was simply because
of that Oklahoma reference.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
So what are you thinking, Mickey?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
So getting him as the defensive coordinator and obviously he
knows people, and they're already talking to some people and
I see all this stuff. That's like they're bringing in
this guy as a coordinator. They're not going to name
them the coordinator, but they may name them a position coach.
And I think a different voice sometimes. I think nothing
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against Dan Quinn with Michael Parsons, but I think he
took another step working with Mike Zimmer. It was a
different voice and and and sometimes that that helps. And
maybe in the secondary, you know, whoever they bring in
to do that, that a different voice may help these guys.
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Maybe you can get Trayvon Diggs two when he's on
the team and you're going through warm ups, the stretch
and whatever, that he might do it with the rest
of the team instead of over to the side by
himself with Parsons like their own little group there. Maybe
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another voice comes in and goes, hey, no, that's not
the way I do things. And sometimes that that's what
you need.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
And it depends sometimes it just depends on who that
word comes from, right, that might be It might it
might be a guy who means well, and I'm just
gonna pick Harris.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Let's say Harris means well.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
We know he's a great coach, but let's just say
his words fell deaf on certain player's ears. Well, then
this other uh person in the same this other coach
in the same position. His way of saying it, it
might appeal to the players better. And yeah, I know
that sounds a little prima donash right, Well, I didn't
like the way that sounded.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
But sometimes you just.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Uh gravitate towards other people for no particular reason, just
by by the way his demeanor is.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And think about this. Think about when you were young
and whatever, you were playing whatever level, and you had
played for this guy. Yeah, and then the new coach
came in. You got your ass and gear right because
you wanted to prove yourself to the new guy that.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Hey, I'm I'm worth it, right, And you might have tried.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But it's easier if that new guy comes in and
says something that clicks.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
And you hear right, and and you know what you like?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
He knows, Yes, had a new coach come in.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And to go, that's not what you want. You want
the other side of that, and that can't happen. It
has happened to me, It's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I heard.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I can't ever think of his name. The coach for
Atlanta Falcons, head coach Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Falcons right now, Raheem Morris, yeah, Raheem Morris.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I was there in Tampa and I heard how Raheem
Morris spoke to his defensive back group, which is a
great group. You had, Uh the guy from Bergner a
Khalid you had?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You had?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Was it a god? Was it one of the brothers
who was one of the safeties out there? The dbs
were very good there as a group. And the way
he taught those.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Guys a lot of brothers playing safety.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, that's why they're good there. But I havn't said that. Yeah,
you had players on that squad. The way he spoke
to them, I just sat in on the meeting and
the way he spoke to the terminology that he used,
(34:23):
the way he connected with him, It's like they were
all connected on the.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Same string in the same room. That's coaching. To me.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
He had that presence in that locker room, in that
meeting room, and I was just sitting back because they
allowed me to come into listen to his game plan
and to me the way he said things, it made
me visualize what I needed to do before I actually
did it.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
That's great that you mentioned it, Rahie Morris, because I
randomly during the season when I went behind enemy Lines.
Listening to Atlanta the week of the Atlanta again, Yeah,
and I'm listening to Raheem Morris would come on a
local radio station and he was great talking and and
Schottenheimer's got that same ability and shot. It comes so naturally.
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That's I'm excited about if I get the opportunity to
host the Brian Schottenheimer Show.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I don't I won't even have to prepare for that.
I just throw.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
A popping out there and you'll just run with it.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
But to make up.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
But it's that ability to communicate.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
It's the verbiage, know exactly how to use those words
to where mentally you can see exactly what they're talking.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Why Raheem Morris was targeted early that this guy is
going to be a head coach in this league.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I'll never forget.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I've sat there, and I've been in the meeting rooms
with some hell of the coaches, and the way he
just this is the way he verbalized everything's like that.
I was gonna say, my Tomas the same type of thing.
I sat there and I went the way he said that.
It made me think I can go out and do
that drill right now. But I'm forty five years old. Right, So,
but that's what he made you feel, I said, in
(36:09):
my mind, I'm thinking that's exactly how I would have
tried to explain that to another defensive bag group.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
And I'll guarantee you that for this press conference today,
Schottenheimer will be pre prepared for whatever gets thrown at him,
because some of it's not gonna be friendly. It's gonna
be some some unfriendly fire.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Well, yeah, first of all, you know what's gonna be
the number one thing? How are you gonna run this team?
If you got your owner always over your shoulder, that's
gonna be. It'll that's gonna be. That's why you.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Interviewed for a head coaching job. Things like that. He'll
be prepared.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I'll go out on a limb right now and say
he'll have answers for everything comes his way.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
All right, my man, I have to go prepared.
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Speaker 1 (39:45):
So did you catch Madison Keys winning the Australian Open?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
And it's about time. Boy, she's been struggling for years.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I know it was a It was a pretty neat
thing to see, especially figuring out who she beat, because
that girl not only is she good, she's huge and
took her down.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Well, Madison's I've always I've watched her since she came
into UH to the pros, and it's all the problem
with her has always been a footwork. It's a little
bit slow. Yeah, she's just a little bit slow, but
her power is there. Boy, the accuracy is there.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
She didn't hold back, she went after it. I enjoyed watching.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I wonder if that's gonna end up being a catapult
for her. Yeah she should. She should be doing better
than she's doing than she did.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Okay, Well that's coming up soon. East West Shrine Games
Week Thursday at at and T Stadium. They're already practicing
out at North Texas and we kind of skipped right
over the conference championship games.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Well, you know, I had the bills.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Thought I thought they were I thought this was the
time that he was gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
So do you think they got jobbed on the fourth
and one?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I think, how can I put this?
Speaker 1 (41:18):
It's like everybody that watched it on TV thought he
had the first down Allen when the quarterback sneak.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
We never saw a good angle from the camera, I know.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I mean I wanted to see the angle from the
guy that spotted it as a first.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I wanted to see if we could see the ball.
I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
See Josh front side, a better shot of him front
side so I could see where the ball was, because
once he turned, it compromised everything in regards to what
the referees and what you.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Called that gave him.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
That opened the door for the referees to kind of
screw it up a little bit because he didn't really
if I think if he stay forward and just done
what he always did and just you know, put it
over there. But Casey was ready for that every time.
And I gotta give Chris Jones man some love this guy.
First of all, you see him, he was crying there.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
The entire he was crying a national answer.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
I think he cried the entire game.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
But what you saw was even though the stats didn't
show it all for him.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I think they had him with like two tackles.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah, I know that did not depict how instrumental he
was in controlling that line of scrimmage for the Kansas
City Chiefs. Because even though they were pretty successful over
fifty percent on the tush push and all that kind
of stuff, those key moments such as the fourth down,
(42:41):
it's when he really showed what the leader he is, man.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I mean, where is his flowers?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah? What is his follower?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Absolutely everyone's talking about Mahomes And we saw Kelsey off
the interview and Taylor smith Man, where is Chris.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Jones talked to that man?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Been on the stage man, I mean the emotions that
he had, it all added to uh, you know, positivity,
It added to production.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
It made him a better player that day.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
They even had Cousins spags on. I didn't talk to him,
you know. And and Romo pointed out, I can't remember.
It was the first time they were at the goal
line and they were going to run the quarterback sneak
and he said that Alan generally doesn't go up the middle.
He goes over left guard, and I'll be darned if
(43:34):
that's not where.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Twice and they would they they knew it. And that's
what he pointed out.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Casey knows this as well, right, because they were ready
for it.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Once again, they were like six for nine on that.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
But it was the ones that they didn't convert is
what hurt the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
Did the Eagles surprise you?
Speaker 3 (43:55):
No, they played just when you look, when you look
at the Cowboys season, as bad as it was, we
were in pretty much every game except.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
For two, that's right, those were the ones. Those Eagles games.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
They almost beat the Commanders twice, right, beat them once
and had the lead nineteen what was it, sixteen?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
And here comes here comes the Commander magic out of
no where. Somebody screws up and next thing you know,
they sneak out the wind.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Well, nothing against dan Quinn because he did a hell
of a job, but you can't give up two hundred
and twenty nine yards, right and you Kevin touchdown.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
You can't have your offense fumbling the ball three or
four times.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, and I don't know that that's on him, but
to lose four, no.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
That is not on him. But that's where he had
to overcome, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
When you give up that many was keeping notes, right,
Barkley had two touches for two touchdowns and it's.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
Fourteen to three.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
So anyway, Uh, pretty good super Bowl coming up in
New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
You got anything to do there?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Now?
Speaker 5 (45:09):
I gotta carry your.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
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Speaker 1 (45:15):
All right, well, we gotta get ready to get you
a hand off to the press conference. Cowboys announcing today.
Press conference posts a scheduled start at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
Brian Shott and Himer.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
As the cowboys tenth head coach in the franchise history,
thanks to Bill Everson Mickey, and we'll be back with
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See you then, Oh Cowboys.
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