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December 19, 2024 45 mins
This will be the biggest challenge the Cowboys have faced in the past month, and knowing Tampa Bay needs to keep wining to remain in first place in the NFC South. A good injury update, what happens at the other cornerback spot and the need to ride Rico.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is nick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys Act. Now Here are Bill Jones,
Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
And it's time for a Thursday edition of Mixed Shots.
Everson Walls with his early Christmas gift, a cowboy blue
sweater that he's dying today. There are football players on
a football field, and we're getting excited about Christmas weekends.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Man, nice little top.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
It's kind of greenish.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Shit. I didn't want to bring up the fact that
you're not wearing any school colors today, Mickey.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
No one's playing, is there other than high schools?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
No, that's right, but I mean your cowboy colors.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
You said school colors.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, well it's.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
My school colors.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Someone played last night, Yeah they did?

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, U l V against.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Cal I missed that they won.

Speaker 6 (01:18):
I must admit.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
We can talk some college basketball if you'd like, we can.
Uh huh, that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:24):
I'm not ready for college basketball.

Speaker 7 (01:26):
I think he wants to talk that because Oklahoma the
big When.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Did they beat the number one team? In the nation.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
They beat Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I don't know what they're ranked, but Oklahoma just might
be the number one team in the nation before you
know it when.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
They got to play Missouri twice.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
So be careful, you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
They beat Kansas with rank number one. Okay, guys missed that?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Are they unbeaten?

Speaker 5 (01:51):
One loss?

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Well, use unbeaten?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
So they Okay, that's gonna be a showdown, all right,
But we have football players on a football fee yield.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Hopefully there's enough for football here today.

Speaker 6 (02:03):
Bags is out there trying to count to see who's missing.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
So who's missing?

Speaker 5 (02:10):
He had six missing and it was only a walkthrough,
so we know Diggs is out, Tuma was out with
an ankle. Eric Kendricks was personal rests. So I'm not
worried about that. The one that I think may it
be a concern is Misy Smith with a back because

(02:33):
they brought back Justin Rogers today. Justin Rogers seventh round
draft choice. He was on a I think he was
on practice squad and they signed him to the fifty
three really defensive.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Tackles to tackle the old defensive tackle out of Auburn.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Were talking about that yesterday. No depth is kind of
out there by himself.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Will McClay had that in his hip pocket, right, that
was whenever the need arose, they would go to the
Justin Rodgers Bank well Man.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
And if you think about it, when you sign somebody
off the practice squad, you owe them three games they're left,
but you all three games and you also are hanging
on to their rights going forward. So they could have
signed them to a two year deal.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
That's what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, So which attracted because it's also Justin Rogers decision
whether he accepts an offer from the Dallas Cowboy the
other team.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
So now you get down to the last three games
and here you go, you make that move and you
fortifying yourself for the future too.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
And they're yeah, and all you got to do is
sign them.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
To because you got that seventh round draft pick back.
That's right.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Thought of it that way. That's that's like when you
know when they signed Cavante Turpin not knowing what he
was he signed a three year deal, right, and it's
like I know his agent and so I told him,
what are you doing after he's Rookie of the Year,
and I'm figuring, Okay, he's up for a big payday,
and my buddy goes, well, when no one's knocking at

(04:22):
your door and you didn't like play again in college
and you get an opportunity, you basically sign whatever they offering.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Right, And he's still even though he came into the
league ladies, still falls into the category of the he
hadn't put in the time to earn for his agency yet.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Until this fourth year.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
So now he'll be restricted this coming year. Which sometimes
they signed those guys early and gave them a little
signing bonus.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
I think that should be part of the practice. I
don't like wait until the last minute. I don't like
how we did it this year. I know it was
all kinds of circumstances that go with that, but time,
I mean, just needs to be a little better. That way,
you don't put yourself in the bind. Try and stay
away from that if you can in some way.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Well, I think they've got a better idea of where
they are against a very tight salary cap that's getting
tighter next year. But they've already taken care of two
of those big contracts and now Micah with its fifty
year options, is going to be twenty some million, right,
so they know that for sure, and they know that

(05:31):
what the quarterback is, and they know what the wide
receiver is. And I don't know that they've got another
big ticket item they got to worry about. But they
got to worry about would you like to bring Osa back?
Would you like to bring Rico back? So those are
things you got to take care of. And when you're
a restricted free agent, you have the right of first refusal.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Right, what year is Tyler Smith now in this league?
So he should the third year.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's just this is just so it won't be long
and you'll have a Tyler Smith decision to make.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Absolutely, I mean it's just ongoing exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
There's always gonna be that, right.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
You just got to hope the salary cap keep going up.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
You're right, because the salaries are going up and they
are making money. They are not going to pay anybody
they can't pay. It's not like, oh, well we're going
to go into Hawk for this guy. That is not happening.
They it's just a matter of getting it done. You
gotta be strategic about it. But the money is there
if you're strategic about how you do it.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
And the other thing Jordan Lewis was going back to
the injuries. Was limited yesterday with the elbow, but he
said he's good to go, So that helps out of.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
That.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
DB's what tough man.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
But the strange one did I mention? I didn't mention
the other corner the starters, right, the other corner? Uh,
I thought he was out with an injury.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Not there.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
They wanted to see Andrew Booth out there. Really, I
hope they saw enough. Sorry, So basically you're saying not
a man of the guy.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
But but but that also tells you they had seen
enough of a rearer in that game, right yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Right, yeah, kind of half the time.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Uh huh man, So that's that's six significance of that.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
We never talked about that, did we, Well you we
we we uh No, we talked about the other play
that he made, right, We.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Didn't talk about the one that.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
That was so and from your standpoint, when you're on
the outside like that and your guy cuts breaks in,
you got to take the other guy that's breaking out.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well right, Well, I don't think it was a man
to man situation.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
Yeah, it was just like you kind of match up
in a match up his own situation.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
So you got to take the guy that comes into
your area, right.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
But your area is way then got up here.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
You gotta carry him way back.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
All the way back there. Yeah, what your area? It
starts at the goal line and you come up. And
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
It's like when you're taking the trash out to the curb.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
You don't stop at the if you got to go
all the way to the curb, you don't stop at
the flower bed and drop it off there.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Got it right, you gotta put it in the bin.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, the bend is back there.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
You gotta put it in the.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Bed because the carbage man's coming up.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
So I don't know what he was thinking, but man
in the situation like that, And let's just hope he's
one of those guys, because I know I was. Once
you get me, you're not gonna get me with the
same thing anymore. So let's hope he's. I mean, he's
been there long enough to I think that's his deal.
So we got to have it booth out there. We
took care of the specialty was the wait before. Now
we took care of this, so we're not.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Gonna get him. Those two things are never gonna happen again.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
That's right, what's gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
No, we can't have those.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
You know, it's kind of hard to anticipate problems that
you just assumed that you wouldn't know, right, I would
anticipate that you're not going to line up deep and
stay deep.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
That's just you on me once for me once. Damn,
I was stupid.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
That's what that is.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
That's what that is, all right, mickey.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, we got the Tampa Bay Buccaneers rolling in here,
and they are rolling in here. They've won four straight games.
Their offense is averaging thirty one points a game. Baker Mayfield,
according to the head coach, is playing as well as
he's seen him play in his career, and goes all
the way back to seeing him at Lake Travis High
School where his the coach's daughter was a few years

(09:49):
ahead of Baker. But he's familiar with Lake Travis High
School and there, of course, Garrett Gilbert was there.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
He had him, of course, but.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
A lot of quarterbacks came out all Austin.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
So it's a weird season for them. They start off well,
they lose four straight and now they've won four string.
But there's a caveat there. They've beaten the two and
twelve Giants, the three and eleven Panthers, the two and
eleven Vegases, and the Chargers who are eight and six,

(10:27):
So I give them that one. Now, that last win
that was that.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Was I don't know if that means that they figured
things out, because if you're going to be trending up
with this is the best time to do it, right
this time of year. You don't want to go in
with any question marks. But having said that, you're ramping
up with these average teams and now you beat a

(10:52):
team like the Chargers. I don't know if I want
to put the Chargers up there as an elite type
of team in the league right now. But that was
a big win now, and the way they did it
was very impressive.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
So it's kind of like the Cowboys, like they got
wins in the same stretch. They got wins over the
Giants and the Panthers, which is the same as the Buccaneers, right,
and the only difference.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
And they beat Washington.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
They beat Washington, which is the equivalent of beating the Chargers, right,
So you're looking they lost to Cincinnati, which would have
been instead Tampa Bay gotta win over Vegas.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
That loss is going to come back to them.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
It is that freaking punt see punt man, you know.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
And the other thing they've done well too winning those
games is they've only in those four consecutive wins that
they've only given up sixty points. So my math tells
me that's fifteen points a game. That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Who do we owe that to? Do you think, Michael Parsons.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
No, I met Tampa Bay.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
So their average margin of victory the last four games
is about thirty one to fifteen.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Sounds that way, especially when you put up a forty, right.
So yeah, I think Mike McCarthy said this is a
big challenge, and I agree with him because they are
playing well offensively and defensively. You know they're gonna find

(12:21):
they're gonna meet the NFC Defensive Player of the Week
with Levonte David is that is one hundred and three
tackles already.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
You know who has the most solo tackles among active
players of the National Football League right now with.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Eleven hundred, is it David? That would be Levante David.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
Really, he has one hundred tackles, I believe I saw
this in their notes. Eleven straight times, eleven seasons in
a row with one hundred.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Tackles, second round draft pick in twenty two twelve.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
With at least one hundred how many season eleven?

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Damn he came in the league in twenty twelve.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
So this is he's been here forever, thirteenth years out
of Nebraska. He was with he played for Nebraska when
Nebraska was good. Yeah, it's a long time ago.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
I get back there with Johnny Fuss State. Yet is
its giving again?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Right? You know?

Speaker 6 (13:33):
This team, the Cowboys team, Yeah, what Tampa is.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
They've been that before.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
They have been that team that's gotten on the road.
Baker Mayfield has really been consistent with him. You know,
he's had some some inconsistencies, but overall, you know what
you're gonna get with Baker. He's gonna come out just
really trying his hardest and you're gonna get your best
from him. And there's sometimes when you might see greatness
from Baker Mayfield. But this Cowboys team, with the running

(14:04):
game that they have and the way this defense is playing,
it can be probably the best team that we've had. Uniquely,
I'll put it like that. In quite some time. I'm
not talking about the quarterback position.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Just despite all the injuries and what we've come.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
Through and now with what our game plan is, our
game plan is not to come out dak CD. It
is not that our game plan has come out of
hitching the mouth right now on both sides. On both
sides and the way we're running that ball, No one's
really that comfortable with us the way we're running the ball,
and I know the teams aren't that great, but we

(14:45):
did what we were supposed to do, which at times
is a miracle for us doing what we're supposed to
do to win the game. And we've done that, i'd say,
especially the last three weeks.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
The Cowboys went through a stretch of the season where
they had to be like five straight g games against
what were then division leaders, and then they've gone through
a stretch of about four games where they haven't faced
division leader. Well now they're back playing a division leader
this week in Tampa Bay and then a division leader
next week in Philadelphia. So we're going to find out
a lot more about where this Cowboys team is.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
That's what I talked about yesterday.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
You know, this Tampa team coming in here, that's usually
the teams, the type of teams that really put us
in our place. They've done that in the past.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Well, if you look at that five game stretch, so
Detroit first place.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Well in Pittsburgh before that, won that game.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Yeah, Pittsburgh now now San Francisco fell off, Atlanta second place,
Philadelphia first place, and Houston still hanging in the first.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
And Atlanta was a first place team when they played
when they played, and Houston's won their division.

Speaker 6 (15:54):
Yeah, so that was that was Atlanta's last good game.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
That was the stretch. Ye guts because think about it
after Pittsburgh, we forget they were three and two.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
So but like I said, it's it's our style of
play exactly. It's very different. Now we're not throwing the ball.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
We are a basically a run first team.

Speaker 6 (16:18):
I don't think I've ever I can't remember us being
a run first team in a long time. We'll find
winning while doing it, winning while doing.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Now, going up against this defense, will find out if
they can.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Interesting is even if I'm an offensive lineman, if I'm
an offensive coach, let's see what's.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Going to happen.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
We're going to continue to do what we do.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
The interesting thing about it is even after Dak got
hurt in the Atlanta game, it took like three games
before the Cowboys figured out that, okay, we need to
run the ball.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Rather first, rather than pass the ball first.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
And it's helping him out. I mean, it's helping him
rush out. He's you know, basically doing what he can
and we're living and winning with his limitations.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Well, the beautiful thing about it too is CDs still
getting his numbers nine catches, hundred and sixteen yards and
a touchdown with this philosophy, you know, he's benefiting from.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
By the way, So we have to say that the
running game is helping him a preparation, right, you don't
have the double team. We need that safety down here
to plug the run. Now I can work on you
one on one, and you know, most likely I'm going
to create the separation on a consistent basis.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
And it doesn't mean you're running. An emphasis on the
run doesn't mean you're flipping the script and going seventy
percent run plays and thirty percent pass plays.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
But we're running passing.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
Leg still a passing league, but we are. We are
running and giving our passing game a chance, a chance.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
And it helps when you're not down by twenty points,
no doubt immediately.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
And that's what I'm talking about with Michael pass.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Because I was looking here back everything from a passing
that's something when he came back.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
How about this, Since Mike has returned six games, Cowboys
lead the league with twenty four sacks and they are
third in the league with thirteen takeaways in those six
games since Mike has returned. And who has benefited a
lot also from that is Osa Digazuli. Take another away
from Osa's abilities, but having Micah.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Back the last seven people in the last.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Seven weeks, he leads the league with thirty two quarterback pressures.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Osa does.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Also since there's got two people blocking block.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
And when you mentioned about running the ball, they had
six games already that they attempted at least forty two
passes and twice in the fifties, no three times, okay,
fifty fifty passing attempts fifty one and fifty six.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
And I think the coaches looked would if they look
back at it at the end of it went at
the end of the season, they look back at it
and they go, we abandoned the run to early youse
games there's a certain point in the fourth quarter where
you have to avand right right. But and there were
third quarters of some of those games.

Speaker 6 (19:28):
That's when the game changed. The third quarters, not the
fourth quarters. The third wars coming that have to halftime.
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Speaker 5 (22:34):
Definitely is.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
All right, Look at all that stuff you got in front.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Of you going next.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
We know Todd Bowles is the head coach, former Cowboy assistant.
I think we mentioned Casey Rodgers yesterday.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Defensive coordinator, Skip.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Pete running back coach, been with the Cowboys. George Edwards linebackers.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Who's not only been with the Cowboys, but he was
with Mike Zimmer for a year and.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
With the Cowboys twice, by the way, and then they
had a offensive assistant backed in Jason's days, Kevin Carberry.
He's an assistant over there. Oh and by the way,
we also produced two people on Tampa Bay's website, Casey Phillips,

(23:23):
Bill knows very well, and it wasn't with us, but
she was covering the Cowboys. Briana Dix is one of
their writers on Tampa or whatever they call it, Tampa
Bay dot com or whatever it is. I just called up.
The two of them were doing a three person kind

(23:45):
of talk like we're doing right now and kind of
previewing the game, and they were really good at it.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
By the way, Casey Phillips has been good at it,
and you know, and she interned here with the Cowboys
for a while, and.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Maybe when she was in high school. I know when
she was in University of Missouri.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
But there's the common denominator right there.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
I don't know if it's Missouri or is it South
Lake Carrol, because she impressed me so much when she
was a student. She's about the same age as my daughter,
and she actually started a broadcast club at South Lake
Carroll when she was a high school kid, and she
played basketball. As a sophomore she made the varsity, So
it's you a good athlete also. But what was cool

(24:30):
kind of following her career is Okay, she was to
Missouri and then she worked for Disney and worked for
the Saint Louis Rams as well as I think the
Washington Wizards, and got an opportunity with Tampa Bay.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
But it's just cool when you know it. I was
about to say kid, but when she was.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Who you saw her when she was fifteen years old
and she had aspirations to do this, you know. And
then she interned at Channel eleven. She entered probably at
about every re broadcast entity in Dallas Fort Worth, but
that was how committed she was. And then to see
her go to Tampa Bay and then they signed Tom

(25:10):
Brady and then she's doing interviews with Tom Brady and
Rob Gronkowski. I mean, she's the one that's hosting these
and and what was really cool, which when Tampa Bay
won the Super Bowl and she did a little selfie
from the stands.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
I mean it almost just like.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
I started tearing up watching what you know from yeah, right, right,
and uh so anyway, it's it's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
So we'll get to see them because she's like their
head TV person on the on their website or whatever
other shows they do.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
By way, I wanted them. I think I mentioned it yesterday,
but Todd Bowles is a lover of HBCUs. He was
at Morehouse after he played his first I believe his
first coaching job was a defensive coordinator for Morehouse University
HBCU in Atlanta. Not it's not in Florida on Jacksonville

(26:09):
State and you've got Grambling State. After that, that's when
Doug Williams was the head coach. He had come back
for a belief his second stint at Grambling and he
bought tied bowls with him. If I'm not mistaken, that
entire coaching staff was pretty famous, guys, you know, because
Doug was relying back on his boys back when he played.

(26:30):
So yeah, and then after that, that's when he went
to the Jets in two thousand, after he left Grambling State.
That for those two years in nineteen ninety eight to
nineteen ninety.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Nine, And you're familiar with his son, right, No, Troy
Bowles highly recruited linebacker and he was at Georgia and
he's in the transfer portal right now.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
So what position? Linebacker? Oh? Okay, of course stud stud linebacker.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
So we got ties with ten.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
When you look at their defense, we mentioned Lavonte David,
but their two defensive tackles, Vida Veya and Elijah Cantsey,
if they they have combined for twelve sacks, they each
have six sacks. Not so not only defending the run,
but getting to the quarterback. And with what the Cowboys
have going on with injuries in the interior of their

(27:27):
offensive line, can be a little bit of a test there.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
As a matter of fact, this is a side note there.
So I think at the time it was asked, brock
Kauffman was considered the starting center because they didn't know
if BB was going to get back, So they asked him,
you know, has he studied vide Vea and you know,

(27:51):
does he know much about him? And he said, yeah,
I was talking to beattish about it, and he was
clueing me in on some stuff.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
So how about that.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
He was using his sources to be able to scout
having to go up against that.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
Against that exactly right? And It's not just how he looks,
it's how he plays. This young man is very he
got high motor.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
You better double team him.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
And see, that's the kind of thing that if I'm
the offensive line and I'm going up against him, you know,
you gotta feel some type of a challenge. I mean
not I don't mean just going in there like, oh lord,
I'm gonna be right. No, you gotta go in there thinking, man,
this is my chance. I gotta show these guys what
I could do. No, forget not necessarily him. I gotta
show my teammates they can depend on me to play

(28:40):
against a guy like that. I may not be the
best guy out here at that position, but I'm going
to show you can depend on me. I mean, at
one point you have. And that's what we've been seeing.
We've been seeing people that you can depend on. We've
been seeing dependability. I want that to continue.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Well, and not just your teammates now, but how about
showing this organization going forward, right because there's a you know,
we'll see what happens with Zach Martin. He's not obviously
he's not playing forever and he's likely going to retire,
and so he's not in the contract for next year,
and so they've got decisions to make on their offensive line.
There's there's openings at the end on that offensive line.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
And the end has been fixed up.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
They've been putting a little little paint on it because
we have been really successful at it. So they I'm
hoping they go into the game thinking, we're not afraid
of you guys. You know, we're going to challenge you
because they have people have been running on Tampa. It's
not like they've been invincible, and they've been scoring on
Like I said, they lost four straight. That had something

(29:43):
to do with the defense as well. So we got
to find those those those those cracks in the sidewalk.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
He's three forty seven three, and I don't think it's
like big sloppy.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Wait.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
So to me, some owing weight, Yeah, probably stressed, Yeah,
I'm talking about yeah, and uh, to me, the offensive
coordinators got to figure out we need him going sideways
and get the ball out.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
If nothing else, you just want to make sure that
he is handled one or two guys. You don't have
to blow them off the line necessarily them, just shield
them off. You know, let's hit them with some proper
plays that can give our offensive line of the chance.
You know, they don't have to be to where you
have to hold a block that long all the time.
There are schemes to where you can and I know

(30:37):
Nate Newton knows I'm talking about to where you can
just shield the guy off and the running back's gone,
don't I don't see him chasing too many people down
from behind.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
He's got nine tackles for losses, but he has six
sacks and ten quarterbacks getting in the backfield.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Right then, the other guy who's only I think he's
only played nine games because he was injured earlier. He's
got six sacks in nine games and he was a
first round draft pick last year.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
So this should be something that they should flish. Let's
see what we got, Let's see what we are. Yeah,
well that's what I talked about yesterday. Let's see what
we are.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
And the fact that those guys have sacks in the middle,
that's why you.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
Gots extremely unusual, right.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
You got to make sure.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Run getting off inside.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, make them be run conscious first.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
One other interesting thing that I'll be looking at on
Sunday night is so when you look at the center
for Tampa Bay Graham Barton. He was a first round
draft pick last year, went number twenty six overall, and
I know he was on the Cowboys radar and other
team's radar dur and at that point in the draft,
and the Cowboys had a decision to make on Okay,

(31:49):
do we pull a trigger on a player like that
and at a position like that, or do we trade down?
And as it turns out, the Cowboys traded down, and
then they got Tyler Goyton or left tack five picks later,
and they wound up with an extra third round pick
getting a center in Cooper b a center of slash guard.
We'll see where he winds up eventually in his career,

(32:11):
but they get Cooper BB there and so but Graham
Barton's doing a really good job for them as a
starting rookie center. And their offensive line is they have
they've shorted up here in the last couple of years.
They spent a second round pick on their right guard,
Cody Mock last year, and they got another first rounder starts.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
At left tackle, Test whorfs in behind them.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, so they got they start two first rounders and
two second rounders on their offensive line.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
So they don't mind going at them.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
So, and that's what the Cowboys have been trying to
do with their offensive line in the draft here in
the last few years, with a second rounder or rather
a first rounder in twenty twenty two and Tyler Smith
first rounder this year who hasn't been ready yet but
we'll see where how he progresses.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
And a third rounder. So yeah, yeah, they addressed it. Oh,
by the way, before we go to break, they also,
by the way, have seven starters listed as not practicing yesterday,
so they've got some issues too. But yes, this time
of the year, it's like for everybody in the league.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
It's not just the Cowboys that.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
It's it's loading practice, load manager.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
We're deep into the season.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
This is week sixteen, all right, And speaking of that,
I need to work on my load management. I just
don't feel like I think I need to take a
can finish those last ten minutes last and now if
we were doing some sort of n season tournament or
we had some.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Money evolved more money than I might.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
I might stick around and play the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
I'm thinking, you know, I probably didn't save myself because
we're going to be back here at ten am tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Right, that's right.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
I'm right.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
So I'm going to bail out and rest up for
tomorrow's ten am show, and you two take it the rest.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I have never bailed on my team.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Okay, see if anybody from the practice squad walks in.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Okay, all right, it's got a call out today.

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Speaker 5 (36:46):
All right, And we'll continue on here without Bill Jones,
who has another job to take care of and we
have one of the multiple multiple people to take care
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(37:07):
the field. And as Everson noticed, everybody was standing on
the field. Where the sun is that right?

Speaker 6 (37:13):
That's right, No one was in the show.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
A little chili here. You brought this up yesterday and
Mike talked a little bit about it today. Carl Lawson
kind of showing up, especially in this last game. Yes,
something caught your eye for sure.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
No, it's no doubt.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
Well, you know Oga's helping him down there, there's no
doubt about it, right, Yeah, having having Micah come back
and loss on you know, getting well, he really doesn't
get but about fifty percent. Now is he getting more
than fifty percent of it's maybe that many, yeah, Yeah,
And those two sacks in the against Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
He got two sacks against Atlanta, had one sack. He
only had one tackle in this game Carolina, but he
had a sack, a tackle for a loss, and two
quarterback hits he had He played forty four percent of
the snaps. Yeah, but you knew he was out there, yes.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
And then you know he's one of those guys he
kind of held it down until Michael came back. Yes,
you know, and we I mean those those two sacks
against the Falcons, that kind of let people know that,
you know, practice s gud practice squad players.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
They're not just practice squad players.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
All the time.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
And I think the other guy.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
They're not thinking like practice squad right right right, that's
what you want.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
And he you know, no no off season, no training camp,
you know, no ramp up. Basically his ramp up was
you know, being on the on the team, getting a
chance to practice.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
So that's what I was always saying about a practice player.
It is true you said many times when a guy
messes up, that's why he's a practice squad player.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I get that. That is that is that is that
is viable.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
But when you start talking about players that really need
to make a difference on the team, and we everyone
we bring in, they're not going to be stars, but
everyone we bring in are not going to play like
practice squad players.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
And he's one of those guys, you know.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
I tell they asked me one time to send my
Grambling State boys a message, you know, and they were
asking all the alumni to send in messages to them
to motivate them during the season. And the one thing
I told him is don't let somebody else tell your story.
Don't let somebody tell you how good you are. You know,
we all went through it. Somebody probably told you you

(39:33):
can't write.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
They did. And so now here you are.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
So yeah, and Grambling, I'm sorry, not just Grammy, but
the Dallas Cowboys has always been a team that has
had over achievers. We are known for that, Okay, I mean,
so that's the culture here. So that's what I'm looking
forward to here. Somebody like laws and show me that
I am better than my narrative.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
And show that I can play like I did it
a couple of years ago before things went south when
he was with the Jets because the previous year to
that he was a big time player. They paid him.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
And then I'm not I really look forward to him
doing I really look forward to him doing more with us, right,
I'm talking about No. One tackle games. Now, that was
a weird game Sunday where it was extremely balanced as
far as our defensive attack. You have a bunch of people,
a lot of tackles.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
And I think what you what they made a priority
is to make sure this dude stays in the pocket.
Yes he got out the one time.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
But they even stopped the Tuba. Yeah, they stopped Cuba
from getting his hundred yards if I'm not mistaken. And
this is a guy that was doing running very well
before that game, and we controlled him.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
And I think people need to also understand that Tampa Bay,
while they're in first place in the NFC South, they
only got a one game in Atlanta on Atlanta and
they realize that they got beat by Atlanta twice. So
if there's any any ties they're out.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
They're a totally different team now, Isn't that crazy? Yeah,
both teams are totally different teams now.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
So they've got to they've got to maintain a one
game lead on the Falcons, otherwise they're in trouble. So
they're somewhat of a desperate team that you know, depending
on what Atlanta keeps doing, they got to keep winning two.
They almost need to win out.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
We have seen.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
Games where that narrative is facing another team coming into
the stadium, right at and T Stadium, and we've played
like that, meaning we put the pressure on them from
play one. We haven't really done that this year, you
know at home right, we really haven't done that this year.

(41:56):
There are games we've come out in the past, many
games where we are bringing it to them right away.
We score on the first drive, not field goals. We're
talking touchdowns. You know, we got the sacks, we're doing
all of that. We can play like that in this game.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
We can't.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
We can get back to that because we used to
do that all the time. And if we do that,
I think we could intimidate these guys because they're coming here.
Put the put the pressure, put the pressure that coming here,
we're not going there.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
They're coming here, and we need to make them feel that.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
You know, I know, I don't know what the crowd
is going to look like, but I don't need a big, big.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
Crowded a bunch of rent watch it right. The other thing?
Uh so, okay, you win the toss when you're doing
I'm taking the ball, taking the ball.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
I'm taking the ball because and I'm running it. I'm
gonna run it down their throats. And every time we
gain my my crowd is going to be going crazy, right,
And that's the whole thing. Also, this, this crowd needs
to understand this is a different culture we have here now.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
You know, we don't have the dacks.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
You know, we don't have you know, the fancy wide
receivers running all over the place. We got just CD
doing this thing, working hard. That's what we've turned into
right now. We are not the team that we were
last year. I don't mean that we don't have the talent,
but we certainly don't have the same game plan.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Yeah, because a lot of a lot of times I hear, well,
this team was twelve and five last year. Well this
ain't that team.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
This ain't that team.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
We are totally different, right, And they were fussing about
us being twelve and five last two three years anyway,
So don't worry about what the record is right now.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
We just need to make the damn playoffs.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Would you take twelve and will take twelve and five
right now?

Speaker 6 (43:37):
And that's I'm sure a lot of those people that
were complaining it looks good to them too.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
It looks a lot better than it was used to do.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
So everybody was like, oh, this is a Sunday night game.
They're gonna change, you know, they'll change. This is a
big game for both teams, right.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
Just think about that Sunday night. Put the pressure on them,
Put the pressure on them, show them a nationwide television So.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
I think it was NFL network. They figured out, you know,
how they do with the percentage chances and going to
the playoffs, right, and obviously like Detroit, Minnesota, Green Bay,
they're all either one hundred percent they're going to go
to the playoffs, Philadelphia or somewhere in the nineties. Then

(44:22):
you get down to the bottom. It was, uh it
was the Cowboys, the Saints, yeah, and San Francisco one percent.
Damn one chance.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
My business part is a forty n oother fan. We
don't even hardly talk this yet because he ain't doing
the damn thing he's usually calling me talking trash.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
You know what's with the Cowboys. I don't hear from
him anymore.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
And I can't believe that New Orleans hasn't been eliminated already.
They're five and nine.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
Well that that that doesn't it doesn't make us look good, yeah,
because like like right.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Above them, but it's all one percent. Oh that's pretty sobering,
right all right, Well, that's it for mix shots on
this Thursday. We'll be back again and remember ten o'clock
ten claro uh for Bill and Everson Mickey Spagnola, and
we will see you again tomorrow on dallascowboys dot Com.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
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Speaker 1 (45:25):
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