January 21, 2025 • 52 mins
So much to talk about, from updating the Cowboys head coach search, to the NFL playoff games over the weekend to the CFP championship game. Plus concentrating how the offensive coordinator will affect the decision on the next Cowboys head coach.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is nick shot streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones,
Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I would like a fight song on this Tuesday, but
I'm not going to get one.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
No, you should not.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
What are you going to fight about?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm fired up? Oh it's stay number nine of Cowboys
Coach Search twenty twenty five. The college football season is
over and now it's full steam ahead for Shrine Bowl Week.
Here come right at the end of the week.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
How old is that bowl game?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It goes back as long as long as Randy White
goes back. A Manster played it in nineteen seventy four,
whatever year it was.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
This year is one hundred. I was going to say
one hundred.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, Producer Supremes got the answer for you.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Because Randy White is only halfway there.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, yeah, it was half one hundred years ago.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Did you not play a heck?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
No, I went to Grambling. They don't look at us.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Usually players in Grambling do play.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
No, they don't not back then, back now they do
now because the Shrine Williams came along, of course there
had to be something extremely special. But no, if you're
going to catch those guys, it's rarely HBCU players.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, the Shrine Bowl used to be big time.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It still is.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's going to be played at at and T staate away.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
From compared to the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, it's now it's rivaling that they're just going to
be played at at and T Stadium. Mickey, Thursday, January thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I still have a Senior Boat and they're gonna work.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Then I found out there was something called the Tropical
Bowl that they moved from Orlando to Daytona beach.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Diet This ever, the Portal Bowl.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Ever, since get this, they actually now play high school.
Of course, you had Pro Bowl in Hawaii. Now they've
got high school All Star games in Hawaii. The point
set of bowl. And I saw the catch of the
Year on Friday night on the NFL Network, Decorean Moore
out of Duncanville High School, who's headed to Oregon, number
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one wide receiver recruit in the nation. He made the
most incredible one handed catch in traffic.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
And I have started out, I know you got it
on the iPad.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I can send it to you, but I'm got I've
already made him my number one pick in the twenty
twenty eight NFL Big Green Notebook, Big Green Notebook.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Well, I coached them kids the Navy All Star Game,
All American Game.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I think that was on that this past Saturday. Oh
you did? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Was it this bad Saturday for wuk Muhammad all the
dbs that I coached out there? Man, they were pretty
good kids and they ended up playing in the the
Navy All American Game, which is down in San Antonio.
It was nice, all right, very good. I cast some
really nice talent there and they played nationwide television that
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Sunday that Saturday following Saturday.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Did you have coach number twenty nine from Notre Dame
on the island by himself with the best wide receiver
in the country?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Man?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Or is Ryan Williams, the Alabama seventeen year old true freshman.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
What happened to him?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Did? He seemed like he fell because Alban wasn't good
this year. He fell off big at ther Man Nick
Saban retired.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, well, Nick will say that's why.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
That's Jeremiah Smith, who Texas, by the way, held a
one catch for three yards, and the true national championship.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Guy really only had two catches of significance. One they
chose not to cover him when the corner back back
then the law. Okay, so the first touchdown, right, he's waving,
we don't have enough people over here, and he chose
to go inside and let the best wide receiver in
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the country just uncovered.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Do you think that's just a jerk reaction, Like, Okay,
if I'm here, I got a choice, you're number four,
you're somebody else, and so I come over and I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Not taking him. I'm gonna take him.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I say, my job, you know, do.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You think that?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
You know, now on that play at the end, would
did they send everybody on the blitz? Was there no safety?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
There was no safe?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah? Right, no?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
See, which is you have to question that?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So well, well, one thing.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
You can't question, regardless of what they decided to do
with number before or.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Not, was Jeremiah paramise.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
That catch is still the catch. You know, it's still
that that was still his moment.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You know, he was gonna catch it and wide open,
wide open. I mean, we got to catch it. But yeah,
what about.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Just getting on him on the line of scrimmage. You know,
don't worry about the first down, worry about the touchdown.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, well you you would think, I mean it all
though it was third.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, I'm saying it's a hell of a call.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, well it was third not not particularly it was
third and eleven. Yeah, you know, and they're not gonna
the only way you're going to end the game is
that way, basically, because it was an all out blitz,
right and uh and so he just reared back and
throw it to the best receiver in the country, as
you say, and he made that's right, and and he's
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wide open. And what was interesting about it is if
if they don't complete that ball, then Notre Dame is
getting the football back down eight. And by the way,
Twitter went crazy, but I will tell it about Twitter
went crazy when Marcus Freeman decided to kick the field
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goal down sixteen points. But really, when you do exactly
when you look at it in retrospect.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It would have come down all right.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Number one, they were not going to convert on fourth
down the way that game was fourth and nine or whatever.
It was, right, and you had enough time left where
you clearly had enough time to get possessions if they
kicked the field if they make the field goal and
then it plays out like it did, they got the
ball back, they scored a touchdown, they would have been
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down with four point fifteen left in the game. They're
down only six, needing a touchdown and just an extra
point to win the game. Here was my other thought,
and I don't know, Twitter is going nuts. Oh.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I was thinking, you've got limited time and you're going
to have limited possessions, right, So if I kicked the
field goal and make it, I can on side kick
and get a steal of possession back. But if I
miss on the fourth.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Down, yeah, I'm toast. I just felt like.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I thought that's what he was thinking.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I'm gone, Well, you know what I was thinking. Number one,
they were bogged in and they weren't. They weren't converting,
And secondly, what were the odds that they were going
to make three two point conversions?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Right? Right?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And so you were you were probably going to have
to kick a field goal, and if this miraculous comeback
was going to happen, they were going to have to
kick a field goal at some point, and as it
turned out, there was plenty of time left because they
finally got a stop and Ryan days much like Lincoln
Riley where he gets a lead in the game and
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he goes into a shell. They quit running their offense
and they're just running that little quarterback draw Kansas State
quarterback run all the time, and so they're not converting
until they had to throw it deep to the best
wide receiver in the country in the end of the game.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Anyway, I wanted to be there and ask him, were
you thinking of on side kicking because there was like
four minutes to go and they still needed too.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well at that point they were like nine minutes. There
was eight or nine minutes left.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, when they missed.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
When they missed the field goal, Yeah, yep, there was
that much time because they got the ball back, scored
and got it within eight with four and four minutes,
and I think.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
It just seemed like it was less time because they
wanted to They just went because they weren't doing it at
the point.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, so are if you're Washington and you just banged
the field goal off the upright, let it bounce.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
In right.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The bank the mithfield goal.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Now the one they the commanders, the commanders, the one
they made.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Oh oh oh, well you got me.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
There, Sorry, I changed I changed it here. So I
was getting back to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And by the way, we are on at a different
time because of the holiday yesterday. Yes, we moved to
nine o'clock on Tuesday, just for this week. Next week
we will be back at eleven am on Monday. This,
as I mentioned off the top, is day number nine
of the coach search. And do you think we will
have a coach named by the next time we convene
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next Monday at eleven am? Or is it going longer
than that?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Well, if indeed they're serious about Kellen Moore, then it's
going to go longer than they could make that that
and that game is being played on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
If he lost on Sunday, right by eleven am Monday,
they could name him the coach, kind of like what
Chicago did with Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So Ben's gone.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Johnson's gone to Chicago, So Mike McCarthy's not the new
coach of the Chicago.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Bears, and everything was going to be.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
That was always a ploy to try to get the
show the Cowboys that Mike McCarthy's got other options.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
And then we don't get to use Ben and Jerry.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Married thinking about that forever.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Come, did you ever express to Jerry that thought that
was a great I just knew some sponsorship.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
From one of the radio shows is gonna say. I've
been way up man, I've been having that. I think
I wrote it down.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Jerry might have actually interviewed him if you give him
that sponsorship idea.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
All right, So I don't think that was gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I don't think so either. So uh, what would you say?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Well? Number one, the Bear's job to me would be
safer because now I've got a young quarterback that I'm
in charge of developing, right, instead of inheriting a job
that everybody expects. Okay, we're going now thirteen and four
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because I've got the quarterback. So I think from a
you know, a five year deal that's safe. I think
the Bears was probably a better choice.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
We have breaking news, yes, you reported now the Cowboys
are expected to interview their own offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer,
for their vacant head coaching job.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Okay, so last week I was told that there's another
candidate whose name hadn't come up yet that would be
the one. And I think this might be.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
The one because his name had not come up yet,
and the first time I think it may have been
mentioned by others, but.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
No, it had not.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The first time that I heard his name mentioned was
on the Fox pregame show just prior to kick off
on Sunday when and it was now that I look
back at it, Kurt Menafee.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
It was.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It was a strange placement in the pregame show, right,
because that we are leading up to kickoff of the
Philadelphia Rams game, and usually earlier in the show they
take care of all the coaching rumors going on. And
Kurt Menafee said, he set up Jimmy Johnson to say
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something about the Cowboys coach search and Jimmy and this
is the first time I heard Schottennheimer's name mentioned. He said,
I think it's going to come down the relationship with
Dak Prescott is the key here, and so look for
Brian Schottenheimer or Kellen Moore.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
And I went, huh, And he said it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
With Jimmy has operation yes.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
With a lot of emotion.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Confident, yeah, confidence, confidence, I mean he was Jimmy was
I think, Jimmy, do you know on air, I'm just
speculating because of the timing. It was late in their
pregame show. Now, maybe you mentioned it earlier. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
That is just what I saw.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
That's what I saw, and.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I thought, uh, he has found out something here because
no one else was talking about Shottenheimer. So and then
sure enough by the next morning, Uh, the odds.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
The odds in Vegas just shot up like he was.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
He was the odds on choice to be the next
head coach.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
This came down from the mouth right that Jimmy said it.
Uh huh, odds are here's our betting favorite here.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
I thought I was telling you Jimmy never really speaks
on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
No, he doesn't. That was another thing that Okay, Jimmy's
not like an investigative.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
No, you know, he's not going to be hey, I
got something.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
All he's doing is he's doing his answer in his phone.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
And as it as it turns out, I heard that
his name did get mentioned last week inside the building. Okay, sure, So,
I mean it was kind of I when Jimmy said it,
I was thinking, okay, well, that's just kind of putting
two and two together. Right, he's the offensive coordinator that
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has a relationship with.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
But the way it was packaged, yes, I know, you
know that was like, okay, it was intentional. Yes, he's
got some new information here and he wanted to get
it out there.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
And yeah, I mean is it legitimate information?
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think it?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I think it.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well, clearly it is now that we are learning they're
being reported widely that the Cowboys are interviewing.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I mean, did they have to report they were going
to interview. He's in the building, right, It's not like
they got to bring him in.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But Jimmy said it's important.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Well, he said it, like, is he still in the building? Well,
I think didn't all the contracts expire?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I know, but you still be here?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I mean you can, yeah, but you can still be here.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I would think you still get good lunch, like like
we lunch.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
We last night on our show, I went and found
some old sound bite from Brian Schottenheimer talking about Dak
Prescott talking about his relationship with Dak or whatever, just
for mainly for people. Even though he talks every week,
we don't typically use Brian Schottenheimer sound bites on TV,
And so I wanted to show people, Okay, this is
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how this guy talks, which is one of his strengths.
You know, he's very good communicating.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Okay, But.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
And just to give people a paint a picture, Okay,
this is who Brian Schottenheimer is. And I can't remember
where I was going with that.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, do you consider this low hanging fruit?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Is this something that's legitimate even though it is it
has been brought out?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, makes the relationship with Yeah, I take it. One
of the keys on this is they paid a lot
of money to their quarterback and he's a part of
this process and it's how he's going to be most effective.
And if Dak I think Dak probably he's given a
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ringing endorsement to Shottenheimer.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I'm sure the last thing you want is a big
shake up while you're trying to come back from a
major injury. You know, you want to be as comfortable
as possible. You don't want to have to go through
a whole bunch of.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But the other thing, with the other thing with Schottenheimer, Okay,
if you want him to remain or start calling plays
now or whatever, I mean, he doesn't have to be
the head coach to do that, right, that's me.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I was thinking he could.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Remain the offensive coordinator and now you've basically giving him
a promotion where he's calling plays now under another head coach. Well,
and because what as Mike McCarthy may be finding out
right now? Okay, where's he going to land?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
You know?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
And if he gets hired as the head coach, do
they want him to be the offensive coordinator?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Right? Does?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Because my bottom line on Friday when I wrote, I said,
you can give me all these people that are candidates, right,
but the question everybody's got to answer is who's the
offensive coordinator? Because if you hire a defensive guy, that's
the first question I ask you, who are you going
to hire and so? And if it's an offensive guy,
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are you the head coach? And then you got an
offensive coordinator? Or are you the offensive coordinator? But the
key thing here is who's going to run this offense?
Because if you know, when you got rid of Mike McCarthy,
you also got rid of basically the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
It seems like we're just going for comfort here. You know,
I don't want to be too comfortable, you know, I
get it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
They don't want to change things.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
You know, if we wouldn't have had all these injuries
last year. I get I get it where they see
if we could just get most of those guys back
and won't be so chaotic as it was this past season,
then we could keep things as close to normal as
possible as far as keeping the same coaches, as far
as keeping the same coordinators, you know.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Or did he have other ideas that they weren't following.
He was just following what McCarthy said, because if you
think about the offense.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
He took it over. He took it over the last two.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Years, last two years. And Schottenheimer see three years ago
in twenty twenty two, Shottenheimer was in the building as
an analyst, primarily looking at the defense at that during
that season, and then Kellen Moore walked away and went
to the Chargers in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
And shot Mike wanted to take over it enough.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And so then Schottenheimer became the quote unquote offensive coordinator,
though McCarthy was a play caller. And that's the way
it's been the last two years. And by the way,
in the twenty twenty three season, DAK was second in
the MVP voting.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
So now, and here's the other thing that.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
They and they cut down on those interceptions that they
had with Kellen Morris.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yes, oh see, that they did. But remember Kellen, Yeah,
a lot of those interceptions weren't daxx. Though the criticism
of Kellen was always he wanted to throw.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
The ball too much.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
What did they do in Philadelphia? Ran the ball at
the NFL record well until until because they could run
the ball.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Vicky until the last drive of the game. The other day,
and they're in the snow. They've got Saquon Barkley who's
run for two hundred and five yards in that game.
And on first down they handed off to Barkley for
three yards. It's second and seven, and then Kellen Moore
called a quarterback bootleg and with a quarterback I'm playing
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on a bad knee, and it was a sack and
the Rams got back in the game because of that
play call.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
But they ran for two hundred yards exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
But you would too if Jalen Hurts was your quarterback
in sake, when Barkley was your running back.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But my point is when, and this is what happened
a lot of times when Moore was here. I think
you go back to what is in your DNA in critical.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh you mean it's too cute.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Well, yeah, passing is in his DNA well, and so
on second and second down and seven at the thirty
three where they need to run the football and not
give the football back to the Rams, they run a
bootleg where and get sacked and now you got to
put the football away.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
I think that the term is he tries. How smart
of it? That's right, That's what that play was. Just
just give Barkley the ball in the snow. Anyway, And
by the way, speaking of that.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Did you like Ben Johnson's play call on the double
reverse wide receiver pass in the game against Washington the
other night. Jamison Williams throws the interception. Talk, I mean,
what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Cute?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, I mean, whoa, this is the offensive genius. Okay,
they're finally getting some momentum, they're getting back into the game,
and he decides to call a double reverse pass with
the wide receiver throwing the ball in the coverage one
of the already one of the best cornerbacks in the league,
the rookie Mike Sainras still with Washington, who had two
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picks in that game. So, and you're having so you're
having a wide receiver and Dan Campbell said after the game, well,
I wish she would have made the decision to run it.
You don't expect Jamison Williams to make any decision that's
rational on the field in that situation. Don't put a
wide receiver in the position where he has to make
that decision.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
And you know that's just the waste of his talent
right to throw the ball? What is he a quarterback?
Does he have any don't think so.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
But it was a nice pass, yeah, short the spiral,
Well that whole data. Look Washington, and I wrote it
on Wednesday, this don't bet against this team because they're
living a charmed existence. What are the chances? What are
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the chances that on what was it? Fourth and two
at five and they're not listening to Tom Brady yelling
you better call time out, You better call time out.
You got too many guys in the field, right right,
And then they got penalized and now it's first in
goal at the two. How does that happen? You didn't
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do anything to create that they are living a charmed existence.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Well, I must say, regardless of that, they were less
charmed in this game.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Than they were in any other game. Well, because I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
That play they turned into a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Right, yeah, but for that, for that play, what if
you stopped them on fort for that play to give
you a fourteen point win right against this team? You
see what I'm saying, right, I mean, Detroit should have
they still they played them as well as I've seen
anyone play Detroit this year offensively on defense.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Okay, and so but you still gave up thirty some points.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, but you scored forty five.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
I know.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
The speaking of that, I'm sitting near on Ben Johnson. Okay,
he's supposed to be this genius, you know, and you
gotta hire this guy or I can't believe you're not
an interviewing that that called the double reverse wide pass. Okay. Well,
then we got the other guy who I love, Aaron Glenn.
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But okay, he is the defensive coordinator and there are
twelve men on the field there, and so who's responsible
for this stuff?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You know?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
And it's like it's like these other candidates, Okay, on
a fifteen win team, they can do no wrong. Okay,
they gotta gotta hire these guys. And they're just as
human as the guys that you've.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Let me tell you, And I think they got a
very few, very as you look at they had coaches.
As you look at all these championship games, there are
very few coaches that are like the elite coach and
and these are good teams. But I'm sorry, coaches make mistakes,
and we have seen it in every game over and
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over again.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Not the player.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
We're talking about, coaches making critical mistake in the huge games.
We've been watching them since December. Yep, it's crazy, man.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
The greatest coaches of all time make mistakes all the time.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Bro, So we we we will manticize the Toms, and
then with Pittsburgh's coach, we we will manticize those guys.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
But man, Mike Tomlin, Mike Tomlins up a whole lot
under as much fire as any coach in the league,
and he's got twenty one straight winning small.
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Speaker 3 (28:31):
All right, very good, Uh, Mickey, would you like to
clarify anything on the shrine bowls here?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
He was called on the carping mouth during the break.
Mickey was called on the carpet for saying that the
practices would be at Ford Center. They are not because
we've got Dallas Open Tennis that get started next week,
and so they would be practicing on tennis courts if
they were here. So they have They're going to be
practicing at indoor facilities in the area. And I was
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told last week that you n T was one of
the That's correct, you and T.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
So I can't just walk down the hall. No, you
can't like I did last year.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
That's I was told.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Isaiah standback is on that call, by the way, for
the Shrine Bowl.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
All right, okay, very good. All right, So we've talked
about anything else on Schottenheimer that you want to And
again the breaking news this morning as the Cowboys have
put in a request to interview Brian shot you have
to they put a request with their own team guy coach.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
It's just going well, one guy that evidently he's not
in his.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Office as John Fossil, right, and the other the others
of course, just to bring everybody up to speed on
the long weekend, maybe you were out of pocket, but
Kellen Moore did a virtual interview on Friday morning, and
then on Saturday morning, Robert Salah, the former Jet said
coach was here. And then yesterday it was Leslie Frasier,
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the assistant head coach of the Seattle Seahawks. So Schottenheimer,
by our count, would be interviewed number four and but
the third on the premises here.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
So I wonder if they asked my question to Salah
and Leslie Fraser.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
About who would your offensive coordinator be?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yes, better have a good ad, And they.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Answered Brian Schottenheimer. Right, here's their answer. Here's the answer.
The offensive coordinator is whoever Dak Prescott wants it to
be right.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
There you go. What if he says Kellen Moore.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
He won't say Kelling Moore. He will not say you don't.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Think so, now don't Well Kellen Moore got an interview,
he got it.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Well, I'm sorry to yeah, right coordinator?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
All right, yes, okay, that's why I want to make
sure you're clarified, not making a sideways yeah. You know
how people will just take a little clip, that little
sound bite. Well, Everson Wallace s is that like Kelling Moore?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well, and I did not not say that.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And here was here was my Here was my point
too on answering the question about the offense offensive coordinator.
Five of five of the top seven salaries in twenty
twenty four were offensive guys. So if I'm spending all
that money on the offense, I better find somebody.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
To run that off offensive right.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
And then next year I figured out seven of the
top twelve guys were in cap hits are offensive guys.
So if I'm spending all my money there, then I
better be able to take care of my top salaries
and I better be pretty good on offense if I'm healthy.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I mean, I look at the Detroit game. I was
very surprised.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I'm always I always seem like I'm on the outside
looking in when it comes to favorites. Yeah, I was
really carrying the banner for Jared Goff for MVP this season,
which he was doing, which he was doing pretty well
at the time, right Uh, I mean just really looking
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good through some really good passes in clutch situations all
season long, even the games as they lost by.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
The way, playing in the one of the worst divisions
in football, as it turns out if you look at
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
But it wasn't like that before the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
It turns out the Cowboys were playing in the best division.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And figure that conference. Go figure that, huh right.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah, and they went five hundred.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Man, come on, look at the teams that we did
beat outside of our division. Come on, this team was
right for agetting out yo yo, Gary go. I was
gonna say, well, now I see why everyone no one
wanted him for MVP.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
He's just the way it was.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
He ended up going back to the same old things
and he did back when he was with the Rams.
You know, you could see as he and Sam Donald
to me are from the same cloth, cut from the
same cloth. These guys don't like pressure. They don't perform
well underpression. And when I, of course, I'm gonna always
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compare this to what I've seen Dak do. Everyone talked
about how elite these guys were. Dak has been putting
been up against this kind of pressure for five For
the past five years, he's always looking at that kind
of pressure in big games. He's always had the most
pressures as a quarterback right put upon him. For I'd
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say he have to be in the top five in
the last three years as far as being hit by
more than most most quarterbacks. So when I look at him,
I look at Sam Donald, I look at Jared Goff.
You know, I was so disappointed in golf because I
thought he was gonna show me something different, and he didn't.
After all of these years, he's still that same quarterback.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
And the same thing happened to darnalda thing that was
the guy you were used to seeing, and it showed
up last game.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Right, it wasn't even close.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
It was like, what are you doing? And that was
the question you used to ask about that guy.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
When that's why defense is so good, That's why good
defense is so important. You stop a lot of things
from happening. I'll say this, A good defense stops.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Some history making plays. They stop history from happening.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Ye know, if we if you play good defense, then
then great plays don't happen.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I hate to point this part out because it sounds
so clich ish, but watching the college playoffs, the NFL playoffs,
if you ain't strong up front on both sides.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
That's it. That's it, ass Texas, that's Texas, right, Yeah,
you can't.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
They yours was under pressure and that's why. And those
are two tackles that are supposed to be first round
draft picks.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
And I keep hearing people saying about yours. It's like, yeah,
and any fumbled in the biggest play, and I'm going no,
it's right. Tackle didn't block the guy?
Speaker 5 (35:34):
My brother from you. He went to ut He hates
the do what what is wrong?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
He gets blind sighted by a guy that should have
been blocked.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
But you know, we'll see when it comes to us
next year. But man, as far as a college quarterback,
as far as the University of Texas, I think that's
the quarterback they needed at boy I hope Archie Manning
is at arch arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I hope that he.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Comes in here and does well because they are depending
on this young man a lot.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
By the way, my understanding is that, uh, just going
back to that, we got to go to a break
here on that goal line situation for Texas and Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Uh, arch arch was not available. They didn't.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You got him, he got he got hurt earlier on
the Remember the play he ran the ball, he popped
up the ball down. Yes, I understand he was in
protocol and so he was on. No one's ever said
anything about that, But that's my understanding from inside sources
down there.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
And just look at Notre Dame last night. The left
tackle who hadn't played all year. You had to go
in there and play against their best pass rush, and
he struggled right and turned a guard and he yeah,
kicked out the tackle.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
And then you got Kansas City. They got one of
the best guards in the league, Joe Toney. They've had
to kick him out, attack and struggle and so anyway,
all right, we continue with more mix shines in a moment.
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They didn't give you the dates.
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The livids February first through the ninth or something like that. Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 2 (39:51):
That's it?
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Well when's the when's the Shrine Bowl?
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Speaker 2 (39:59):
You don't even have a for the trying.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
For at and T Stadium.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah.
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Well we've been We've gotten a lot of a lot
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Speaker 2 (40:17):
And so.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
All right, uh, this little note that sounds like the
Jets have targeted Aaron Glenn as their new head coach.
He's talking with them today and the goal he played there,
Yes he did. He was drafted first round draft pick
of the Jets out of Texas A and M. And
the goal is to keep him from leaving the building
today the next head coach of the New York Jets.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
I just really like him, like him as a person,
like the way he coaches the way he speaks, I
think he would be good. And again, we got to
remember when you're hiring a head coach, it's got to
be somebody can stand in front of seventy people five
days a week and hold their attention like, Okay, this
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guy knows what he's talking about, or at least you
say it like you know what you're talking about. Not
every coordinator is a head coach.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
It's you know, some guys have to manage, you know.
He Some guys are good at head coaching. Some are
two different skill set of.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Being hands on.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
You know, you have to, like you said, you have
to capture their attention every day, all day.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And you have to have to be able to manage
a team.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
You have to be able to manage people, you know,
And as defensive coordinator, I'm sure he's done that on
a partial from a partial standpoint, and I would imagine
the way he saw Dan Campbell do it.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
He's been back there with him the entire time.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
And we're going to get to the Bills and the
Ravens here in just second, But real quick, what did
you see in Bill Parcells in the way he managed people?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
He was really good and how he was able to.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Because with Parcels, he and George Young didn't like each other,
so he had to deal with.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
A hostile GM.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
GM and I mean they hated each other. I mean
it was so clear.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
When boom Bill left, George was like, yeah, I finally
got what I needed.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
And then he made the mistake on who he hired
after well.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, I mean he made the mistake by not liking part.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Sales, you know, not dealing and and and dealing with
him better on on a more even basis. Uh pars
Sales was able to keep management out of the player's way.
He was always good at he He always said, I
want the team and management to hate me, not.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
To hate each other.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
He was the goal between Okay, keep keep George, keep
you away from my players, you know, let you. I'll
talk to you about my players. That that's what you
talked to me about. You don't go talk to my players.
I'll take care of that. And when it came to management,
if players had a beef, then we had to go
strictly to Parcels. Don't go above him. You could if
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you wanted to. He wouldn't hold it against you. But
the way he.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Wanted it was you come talk to me about it.
I will handle management. So he was just a real
good middle man.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
And the one thing that he did here he brought
in a couple of his guys and they were the
locker room guys of course, right, they kind of not.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
He believed in that.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Not only ran the locker room, but he was the
go between between the players and himself.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
And most likely it was a linebacker. Is a linebacker
type of person?
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Was it Gary? He had? He had somebody on defense offense?
Was Richie Anderson?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
So he could kind of monitor. He didn't go in
the locker room, but he had locker room monitor, that's right.
And uh yeah, and he commanded.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
It was usually call Banks or Pepper Johnson type that
would he would take them with it. He took him
to Cleveland. You saw what happened when Pepper went to Cleveland. Yeah,
come back in here, and they whipped out butts, you know,
after they got rid of me. So I'm like, yeah,
they don't need you ever.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
But I guess my question for you is more along
the lines of how he dealt with players on a
daily basis as far because a lot of it was
the antagonism type. But he also if it was he
one of those types that if he's given you a
hard time, that means he likes you.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
If he's given you a hard time, yes, that means
you better. That means you better tighten up. Okay, that's
what that means.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
But he's also there's a good nature.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
Yeah that if he if he doesn't give you a
hard time.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
You're out. That's right, Yeah, that's right. That's the point
right there.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
But he's engaging.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
He engaged with you, then he he wants to work
with you.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, you've got you've got a future.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
He's he's he's you know, he's checking out you. He's
checking your temperature. I see what you're about. And so
you know, when I first got there, he did the
same thing with me. Uh he went around asking uh,
some of the players that not just came in with me,
but those were that were there, asking them what kind
of person did they think I was?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
What kind of player did they think I was?
Speaker 5 (45:30):
He asked Thorn Channel, He asked Steve Diassi, but he
also asked Pepa Johnson, and he also asked Called Banks.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
But that's all part of managing people.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
No doubt, Because he talked to different types of people.
That's right.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
That's why. That's the way he treated the media too.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
But that didn't work for them.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Yeah, well, if you were smart, you understood if he
was on you, he was paying attention.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
At least it may sound to an outsider like, well
he really gave Mickey a hard time, but he was.
Actually I told you that new Jersey.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
That's new Jersey.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
He's a New Jersey guy. You know, they're gonna be
real with you. But come on, I'm gonna be real
with you. I'm not trying to go behind anybody else's back.
I'm coming to you. But you have some who if
I'm plus salesmann come to you in that manner, they're
still uncomfortable and they will go and complain and they will,
you know, take note unnecessarily.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
That's the half Italian in them.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
I think it is.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
It is, it is, I mean, and you gotta love
it because it's real. You know, give me a coach
that's not gonna be ask me man, I really and
some some players can see it coming.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
And then and the players who can't handle it, they
don't need to be honest. Team.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
That's why the culture there when I went, when I
came from here, and simply because we had gone through
so much here with the Cowboys. There are a lot
of builty excuses, a lot of finger pointing, a lot
of blaming every just everywhere. But when you when I
went to New York, the whole thing was nobody's blaming anybody.
We are in this locker room. It's the most solid
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locker room I've ever seen. And I've never been on
the defense. I've never been on the defense like that before.
I mean, I played with some great players here. I've
never been on the defense and had that kind of
culture to where they were the stars of the team.
The culture was defense, and if you stopped them on
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third and two, you got a standing ovation in the stands,
you know.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
And I think that's why I'm not sure about Bloodshell.
But like guys like Drew Henson, Chad Hutchinson, they were
not never gonna shrunk. Yeah yeah, but Romo hard. It
was for Phil Simms, but Romo is not the sensitive
type where Romo will flourish under it. Yeah, okay. And
Witton was the same way. It's tough guy. Yeah, you
(47:53):
love with them, sure right, all right? Tell me about
the Bill's Ravens.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
What do you think. I feel so sorry for Andrews.
So sorry. Good pass, right, good pass. It was good.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
It could have been you know, he kind of he
kind of aimed it, you know, and it was right.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
There's the championship.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
It's kind of like I think it's the same way
that Roger talks about the past that Jackie Rogers. I
thought that immediately, but but but Roger would say that,
you know, I should have given him a better pass.
Speaker 5 (48:23):
But he still got to catch it, right. You come on, guys,
I remember Drew Pierson. I'll never forget you Pierson. He
talked about how wide receivers complained about they want to
pass it. He said, anywhere in here youth is a
good pass that you.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Can be as low as you want. Just kiss the damn.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Ball, bro And he's their best receiver.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
And he's the best receiver. Well, Jackie, he made more
than one mistake in this game though. Yeah, he made
like three mistakes. We had to fumble bumble, Yeah, another.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Mispass, saying like with Jackie Smith, people forget that he's
in the Hall of Fame, but so does Mark. Andrews
drops that ball and Jackie Smith starts trending on Twitter
and trended in.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
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oh yeah, he from you. What do you expect? I
already used it.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
I was texting with Babeloffenbury what I said earlier in
the show that, uh, you know Ryan Day, Yeah, he
quit running his offense late in that game, you know,
and he got close on him. And I said, that's
what link. That was the most frustrate One of the
most frustrating thrink things with Lincoln Riley at OU is
that he would he would shut down the offense once
he got a lead in the game. Case in point,
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they played in the College Football Playoff semi final, one
of the great ones at the Rose Bowl against Georgia,
which wound up being a fifty to forty eight game
or something like that. But they got way up on
him and then he shut down the offense, and I said,
I texted the baby. I said, yeah, And in that
game he had Baker Mayfield, CD Lamb and Jackie Smith.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Mark Andrews gotta be like Jimmy and throw the slant
to Elvin Harper in the ninety two seed title again, right.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
I mean, you know, we could have been looking at
a really classic over time.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
So when we.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Oh, yeah, can you imagine if that game went overtime?
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Man, So when we reconvene on Monday, Nick shots at eleven,
we're going to have a new head coach. No, I
don't think so. Yeah, I think we could.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Do you think we could? I think Jason Witten will
be named the new head coach by Monday at eleven eight.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
I think he'll have a spot. I think he'll have
a spot on the spot on the on the staff.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
You think he wants that, I mean just the tight
end coach.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
I don't think he wants just the tight end coach.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, well eventually, No, but.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
I don't think you got to think about what he's
given up. He's got two more years coaching his son,
so I think I think just me, just me talking here,
I think he the only way that he would give
that up coaching his youngest son for his older son
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is going to Rice. So he's already graduated, he's got
one more one of the top recruits in the country,
a safety. He's got him for two more years. He
would be given that up. So if he were giving
that up, he would be want to be more than
just a tight ends coach. He would want to be
a position on the staff where he is.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
I'll give me some promises. It'd better be a hell
of a promise. I'd better be considered for something.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Or he's getting better, He's getting more. Uh, he's getting
better experience than just being in the tight end room
for an eventual goal of being a head coach in the.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
NFL is Remember they keep comparing that to Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbell coached in the NFL quite a while before
he got the head.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
Come out, and Whitten was in the NFL for seventeen years.
So it's it's gotta go quick learning curve here, all right?
Bell went off at eleven am on Monday.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
I would like a fight song on this Tuesday, but
I'm not going to get one.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
No, you should not.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
What are you going to fight about?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm fired up? Oh it's stay number nine of Cowboys
Coach Search twenty twenty five. The college football season is
over and now it's full steam ahead for Shrine Bowl Week.
Here come right at the end of the week.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
How old is that bowl game?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It goes back as long as long as Randy White
goes back. A Manster played it in nineteen seventy four,
whatever year it was.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
This year is one hundred. I was going to say
one hundred.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, Producer Supremes got the answer for you.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Because Randy White is only halfway there.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, yeah, it was half one hundred years ago.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Did you not play a heck?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
No, I went to Grambling. They don't look at us.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Usually players in Grambling do play.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
No, they don't not back then, back now they do
now because the Shrine Williams came along, of course there
had to be something extremely special. But no, if you're
going to catch those guys, it's rarely HBCU players.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, the Shrine Bowl used to be big time.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It still is.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's going to be played at at and T staate away.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
From compared to the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, it's now it's rivaling that they're just going to
be played at at and T Stadium. Mickey, Thursday, January thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I still have a Senior Boat and they're gonna work.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Then I found out there was something called the Tropical
Bowl that they moved from Orlando to Daytona beach.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Diet This ever, the Portal Bowl.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Ever, since get this, they actually now play high school.
Of course, you had Pro Bowl in Hawaii. Now they've
got high school All Star games in Hawaii. The point
set of bowl. And I saw the catch of the
Year on Friday night on the NFL Network, Decorean Moore
out of Duncanville High School, who's headed to Oregon, number
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one wide receiver recruit in the nation. He made the
most incredible one handed catch in traffic.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
And I have started out, I know you got it
on the iPad.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I can send it to you, but I'm got I've
already made him my number one pick in the twenty
twenty eight NFL Big Green Notebook, Big Green Notebook.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Well, I coached them kids the Navy All Star Game,
All American Game.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I think that was on that this past Saturday. Oh
you did? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Was it this bad Saturday for wuk Muhammad all the
dbs that I coached out there? Man, they were pretty
good kids and they ended up playing in the the
Navy All American Game, which is down in San Antonio.
It was nice, all right, very good. I cast some
really nice talent there and they played nationwide television that
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Sunday that Saturday following Saturday.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Did you have coach number twenty nine from Notre Dame
on the island by himself with the best wide receiver
in the country?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Man?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Or is Ryan Williams, the Alabama seventeen year old true freshman.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
What happened to him?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Did? He seemed like he fell because Alban wasn't good
this year. He fell off big at ther Man Nick
Saban retired.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, well, Nick will say that's why.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
That's Jeremiah Smith, who Texas, by the way, held a
one catch for three yards, and the true national championship.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Guy really only had two catches of significance. One they
chose not to cover him when the corner back back
then the law. Okay, so the first touchdown, right, he's waving,
we don't have enough people over here, and he chose
to go inside and let the best wide receiver in
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the country just uncovered.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Do you think that's just a jerk reaction, Like, Okay,
if I'm here, I got a choice, you're number four,
you're somebody else, and so I come over and I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Not taking him. I'm gonna take him.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I say, my job, you know, do.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You think that?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
You know, now on that play at the end, would
did they send everybody on the blitz? Was there no safety?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
There was no safe?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah? Right, no?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
See, which is you have to question that?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So well, well, one thing.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
You can't question, regardless of what they decided to do
with number before or.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Not, was Jeremiah paramise.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
That catch is still the catch. You know, it's still
that that was still his moment.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You know, he was gonna catch it and wide open,
wide open. I mean, we got to catch it. But yeah,
what about.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Just getting on him on the line of scrimmage. You know,
don't worry about the first down, worry about the touchdown.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, well you you would think, I mean it all
though it was third.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, I'm saying it's a hell of a call.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, well it was third not not particularly it was
third and eleven. Yeah, you know, and they're not gonna
the only way you're going to end the game is
that way, basically, because it was an all out blitz,
right and uh and so he just reared back and
throw it to the best receiver in the country, as
you say, and he made that's right, and and he's
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wide open. And what was interesting about it is if
if they don't complete that ball, then Notre Dame is
getting the football back down eight. And by the way,
Twitter went crazy, but I will tell it about Twitter
went crazy when Marcus Freeman decided to kick the field
(06:21):
goal down sixteen points. But really, when you do exactly
when you look at it in retrospect.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It would have come down all right.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Number one, they were not going to convert on fourth
down the way that game was fourth and nine or whatever.
It was, right, and you had enough time left where
you clearly had enough time to get possessions if they
kicked the field if they make the field goal and
then it plays out like it did, they got the
ball back, they scored a touchdown, they would have been
(06:52):
down with four point fifteen left in the game. They're
down only six, needing a touchdown and just an extra
point to win the game. Here was my other thought,
and I don't know, Twitter is going nuts. Oh.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I was thinking, you've got limited time and you're going
to have limited possessions, right, So if I kicked the
field goal and make it, I can on side kick
and get a steal of possession back. But if I
miss on the fourth.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Down, yeah, I'm toast. I just felt like.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I thought that's what he was thinking.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I'm gone, Well, you know what I was thinking. Number one,
they were bogged in and they weren't. They weren't converting,
And secondly, what were the odds that they were going
to make three two point conversions?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Right? Right?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And so you were you were probably going to have
to kick a field goal, and if this miraculous comeback
was going to happen, they were going to have to
kick a field goal at some point, and as it
turned out, there was plenty of time left because they
finally got a stop and Ryan days much like Lincoln
Riley where he gets a lead in the game and
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he goes into a shell. They quit running their offense
and they're just running that little quarterback draw Kansas State
quarterback run all the time, and so they're not converting
until they had to throw it deep to the best
wide receiver in the country in the end of the game.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Anyway, I wanted to be there and ask him, were
you thinking of on side kicking because there was like
four minutes to go and they still needed too.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well at that point they were like nine minutes. There
was eight or nine minutes left.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, when they missed.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
When they missed the field goal, Yeah, yep, there was
that much time because they got the ball back, scored
and got it within eight with four and four minutes,
and I think.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
It just seemed like it was less time because they
wanted to They just went because they weren't doing it at
the point.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, so are if you're Washington and you just banged
the field goal off the upright, let it bounce.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
In right.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The bank the mithfield goal.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Now the one they the commanders, the commanders, the one
they made.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Oh oh oh, well you got me.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
There, Sorry, I changed I changed it here. So I
was getting back to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And by the way, we are on at a different
time because of the holiday yesterday. Yes, we moved to
nine o'clock on Tuesday, just for this week. Next week
we will be back at eleven am on Monday. This,
as I mentioned off the top, is day number nine
of the coach search. And do you think we will
have a coach named by the next time we convene
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next Monday at eleven am? Or is it going longer
than that?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Well, if indeed they're serious about Kellen Moore, then it's
going to go longer than they could make that that
and that game is being played on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
If he lost on Sunday, right by eleven am Monday,
they could name him the coach, kind of like what
Chicago did with Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So Ben's gone.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Johnson's gone to Chicago, So Mike McCarthy's not the new
coach of the Chicago.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Bears, and everything was going to be.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
That was always a ploy to try to get the
show the Cowboys that Mike McCarthy's got other options.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
And then we don't get to use Ben and Jerry.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Married thinking about that forever.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Come, did you ever express to Jerry that thought that
was a great I just knew some sponsorship.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
From one of the radio shows is gonna say. I've
been way up man, I've been having that. I think
I wrote it down.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Jerry might have actually interviewed him if you give him
that sponsorship idea.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
All right, So I don't think that was gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I don't think so either. So uh, what would you say?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Well? Number one, the Bear's job to me would be
safer because now I've got a young quarterback that I'm
in charge of developing, right, instead of inheriting a job
that everybody expects. Okay, we're going now thirteen and four
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because I've got the quarterback. So I think from a
you know, a five year deal that's safe. I think
the Bears was probably a better choice.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
We have breaking news, yes, you reported now the Cowboys
are expected to interview their own offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer,
for their vacant head coaching job.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Okay, so last week I was told that there's another
candidate whose name hadn't come up yet that would be
the one. And I think this might be.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
The one because his name had not come up yet,
and the first time I think it may have been
mentioned by others, but.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
No, it had not.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The first time that I heard his name mentioned was
on the Fox pregame show just prior to kick off
on Sunday when and it was now that I look
back at it, Kurt Menafee.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
It was.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It was a strange placement in the pregame show, right,
because that we are leading up to kickoff of the
Philadelphia Rams game, and usually earlier in the show they
take care of all the coaching rumors going on. And
Kurt Menafee said, he set up Jimmy Johnson to say
(12:44):
something about the Cowboys coach search and Jimmy and this
is the first time I heard Schottennheimer's name mentioned. He said,
I think it's going to come down the relationship with
Dak Prescott is the key here, and so look for
Brian Schottenheimer or Kellen Moore.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
And I went, huh, And he said it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
With Jimmy has operation yes.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
With a lot of emotion.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Confident, yeah, confidence, confidence, I mean he was Jimmy was
I think, Jimmy, do you know on air, I'm just
speculating because of the timing. It was late in their
pregame show. Now, maybe you mentioned it earlier. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
That is just what I saw.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
That's what I saw, and.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I thought, uh, he has found out something here because
no one else was talking about Shottenheimer. So and then
sure enough by the next morning, Uh, the odds.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
The odds in Vegas just shot up like he was.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
He was the odds on choice to be the next
head coach.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
This came down from the mouth right that Jimmy said it.
Uh huh, odds are here's our betting favorite here.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
I thought I was telling you Jimmy never really speaks
on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
No, he doesn't. That was another thing that Okay, Jimmy's
not like an investigative.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
No, you know, he's not going to be hey, I
got something.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
All he's doing is he's doing his answer in his phone.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
And as it as it turns out, I heard that
his name did get mentioned last week inside the building. Okay, sure, So,
I mean it was kind of I when Jimmy said it,
I was thinking, okay, well, that's just kind of putting
two and two together. Right, he's the offensive coordinator that
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has a relationship with.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
But the way it was packaged, yes, I know, you
know that was like, okay, it was intentional. Yes, he's
got some new information here and he wanted to get
it out there.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
And yeah, I mean is it legitimate information?
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think it?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I think it.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well, clearly it is now that we are learning they're
being reported widely that the Cowboys are interviewing.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I mean, did they have to report they were going
to interview. He's in the building, right, It's not like
they got to bring him in.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But Jimmy said it's important.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Well, he said it, like, is he still in the building? Well,
I think didn't all the contracts expire?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I know, but you still be here?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I mean you can, yeah, but you can still be here.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I would think you still get good lunch, like like
we lunch.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
We last night on our show, I went and found
some old sound bite from Brian Schottenheimer talking about Dak
Prescott talking about his relationship with Dak or whatever, just
for mainly for people. Even though he talks every week,
we don't typically use Brian Schottenheimer sound bites on TV,
And so I wanted to show people, Okay, this is
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how this guy talks, which is one of his strengths.
You know, he's very good communicating.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Okay, But.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
And just to give people a paint a picture, Okay,
this is who Brian Schottenheimer is. And I can't remember
where I was going with that.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, do you consider this low hanging fruit?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Is this something that's legitimate even though it is it
has been brought out?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, makes the relationship with Yeah, I take it. One
of the keys on this is they paid a lot
of money to their quarterback and he's a part of
this process and it's how he's going to be most effective.
And if Dak I think Dak probably he's given a
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ringing endorsement to Shottenheimer.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I'm sure the last thing you want is a big
shake up while you're trying to come back from a
major injury. You know, you want to be as comfortable
as possible. You don't want to have to go through
a whole bunch of.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But the other thing, with the other thing with Schottenheimer, Okay,
if you want him to remain or start calling plays
now or whatever, I mean, he doesn't have to be
the head coach to do that, right, that's me.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I was thinking he could.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Remain the offensive coordinator and now you've basically giving him
a promotion where he's calling plays now under another head coach. Well,
and because what as Mike McCarthy may be finding out
right now? Okay, where's he going to land?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
You know?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
And if he gets hired as the head coach, do
they want him to be the offensive coordinator?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Right? Does?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Because my bottom line on Friday when I wrote, I said,
you can give me all these people that are candidates, right,
but the question everybody's got to answer is who's the
offensive coordinator? Because if you hire a defensive guy, that's
the first question I ask you, who are you going
to hire and so? And if it's an offensive guy,
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are you the head coach? And then you got an
offensive coordinator? Or are you the offensive coordinator? But the
key thing here is who's going to run this offense?
Because if you know, when you got rid of Mike McCarthy,
you also got rid of basically the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
It seems like we're just going for comfort here. You know,
I don't want to be too comfortable, you know, I
get it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
They don't want to change things.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
You know, if we wouldn't have had all these injuries
last year. I get I get it where they see
if we could just get most of those guys back
and won't be so chaotic as it was this past season,
then we could keep things as close to normal as
possible as far as keeping the same coaches, as far
as keeping the same coordinators, you know.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Or did he have other ideas that they weren't following.
He was just following what McCarthy said, because if you
think about the offense.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
He took it over. He took it over the last two.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Years, last two years. And Schottenheimer see three years ago
in twenty twenty two, Shottenheimer was in the building as
an analyst, primarily looking at the defense at that during
that season, and then Kellen Moore walked away and went
to the Chargers in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
And shot Mike wanted to take over it enough.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And so then Schottenheimer became the quote unquote offensive coordinator,
though McCarthy was a play caller. And that's the way
it's been the last two years. And by the way,
in the twenty twenty three season, DAK was second in
the MVP voting.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
So now, and here's the other thing that.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
They and they cut down on those interceptions that they
had with Kellen Morris.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yes, oh see, that they did. But remember Kellen, Yeah,
a lot of those interceptions weren't daxx. Though the criticism
of Kellen was always he wanted to throw.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
The ball too much.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
What did they do in Philadelphia? Ran the ball at
the NFL record well until until because they could run
the ball.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Vicky until the last drive of the game. The other day,
and they're in the snow. They've got Saquon Barkley who's
run for two hundred and five yards in that game.
And on first down they handed off to Barkley for
three yards. It's second and seven, and then Kellen Moore
called a quarterback bootleg and with a quarterback I'm playing
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on a bad knee, and it was a sack and
the Rams got back in the game because of that
play call.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
But they ran for two hundred yards exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
But you would too if Jalen Hurts was your quarterback
in sake, when Barkley was your running back.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But my point is when, and this is what happened
a lot of times when Moore was here. I think
you go back to what is in your DNA in critical.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh you mean it's too cute.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Well, yeah, passing is in his DNA well, and so
on second and second down and seven at the thirty
three where they need to run the football and not
give the football back to the Rams, they run a
bootleg where and get sacked and now you got to
put the football away.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
I think that the term is he tries. How smart
of it? That's right, That's what that play was. Just
just give Barkley the ball in the snow. Anyway, And
by the way, speaking of that.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Did you like Ben Johnson's play call on the double
reverse wide receiver pass in the game against Washington the
other night. Jamison Williams throws the interception. Talk, I mean,
what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Cute?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, I mean, whoa, this is the offensive genius. Okay,
they're finally getting some momentum, they're getting back into the game,
and he decides to call a double reverse pass with
the wide receiver throwing the ball in the coverage one
of the already one of the best cornerbacks in the league,
the rookie Mike Sainras still with Washington, who had two
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picks in that game. So, and you're having so you're
having a wide receiver and Dan Campbell said after the game, well,
I wish she would have made the decision to run it.
You don't expect Jamison Williams to make any decision that's
rational on the field in that situation. Don't put a
wide receiver in the position where he has to make
that decision.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
And you know that's just the waste of his talent
right to throw the ball? What is he a quarterback?
Does he have any don't think so.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
But it was a nice pass, yeah, short the spiral,
Well that whole data. Look Washington, and I wrote it
on Wednesday, this don't bet against this team because they're
living a charmed existence. What are the chances? What are
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the chances that on what was it? Fourth and two
at five and they're not listening to Tom Brady yelling
you better call time out, You better call time out.
You got too many guys in the field, right right,
And then they got penalized and now it's first in
goal at the two. How does that happen? You didn't
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do anything to create that they are living a charmed existence.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Well, I must say, regardless of that, they were less
charmed in this game.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Than they were in any other game. Well, because I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
That play they turned into a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Right, yeah, but for that, for that play, what if
you stopped them on fort for that play to give
you a fourteen point win right against this team? You
see what I'm saying, right, I mean, Detroit should have
they still they played them as well as I've seen
anyone play Detroit this year offensively on defense.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Okay, and so but you still gave up thirty some points.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, but you scored forty five.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
I know.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
The speaking of that, I'm sitting near on Ben Johnson. Okay,
he's supposed to be this genius, you know, and you
gotta hire this guy or I can't believe you're not
an interviewing that that called the double reverse wide pass. Okay. Well,
then we got the other guy who I love, Aaron Glenn.
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But okay, he is the defensive coordinator and there are
twelve men on the field there, and so who's responsible
for this stuff?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You know?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
And it's like it's like these other candidates, Okay, on
a fifteen win team, they can do no wrong. Okay,
they gotta gotta hire these guys. And they're just as
human as the guys that you've.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
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very few, very as you look at they had coaches.
As you look at all these championship games, there are
very few coaches that are like the elite coach and
and these are good teams. But I'm sorry, coaches make mistakes,
and we have seen it in every game over and
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Speaker 2 (24:56):
Not the player.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
We're talking about, coaches making critical mistake in the huge games.
We've been watching them since December. Yep, it's crazy, man.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
The greatest coaches of all time make mistakes all the time.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
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Speaker 3 (25:17):
But man, Mike Tomlin, Mike Tomlins up a whole lot
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and he's got twenty one straight winning small.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
But he can't win a playoff.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, right, all right, it's got to work for.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Even Nick Saban might have made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Once, Yeah, every once in a while.
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Speaker 3 (28:31):
All right, very good, Uh, Mickey, would you like to
clarify anything on the shrine bowls here?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
He was called on the carping mouth during the break.
Mickey was called on the carpet for saying that the
practices would be at Ford Center. They are not because
we've got Dallas Open Tennis that get started next week,
and so they would be practicing on tennis courts if
they were here. So they have They're going to be
practicing at indoor facilities in the area. And I was
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told last week that you n T was one of
the That's correct, you and T.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
So I can't just walk down the hall. No, you
can't like I did last year.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
That's I was told.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Isaiah standback is on that call, by the way, for
the Shrine Bowl.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
All right, okay, very good. All right, So we've talked
about anything else on Schottenheimer that you want to And
again the breaking news this morning as the Cowboys have
put in a request to interview Brian shot you have
to they put a request with their own team guy coach.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
It's just going well, one guy that evidently he's not
in his.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Office as John Fossil, right, and the other the others
of course, just to bring everybody up to speed on
the long weekend, maybe you were out of pocket, but
Kellen Moore did a virtual interview on Friday morning, and
then on Saturday morning, Robert Salah, the former Jet said
coach was here. And then yesterday it was Leslie Frasier,
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the assistant head coach of the Seattle Seahawks. So Schottenheimer,
by our count, would be interviewed number four and but
the third on the premises here.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
So I wonder if they asked my question to Salah
and Leslie Fraser.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
About who would your offensive coordinator be?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yes, better have a good ad, And they.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Answered Brian Schottenheimer. Right, here's their answer. Here's the answer.
The offensive coordinator is whoever Dak Prescott wants it to
be right.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
There you go. What if he says Kellen Moore.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
He won't say Kelling Moore. He will not say you don't.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Think so, now don't Well Kellen Moore got an interview,
he got it.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Well, I'm sorry to yeah, right coordinator?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
All right, yes, okay, that's why I want to make
sure you're clarified, not making a sideways yeah. You know
how people will just take a little clip, that little
sound bite. Well, Everson Wallace s is that like Kelling Moore?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well, and I did not not say that.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And here was here was my Here was my point
too on answering the question about the offense offensive coordinator.
Five of five of the top seven salaries in twenty
twenty four were offensive guys. So if I'm spending all
that money on the offense, I better find somebody.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
To run that off offensive right.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
And then next year I figured out seven of the
top twelve guys were in cap hits are offensive guys.
So if I'm spending all my money there, then I
better be able to take care of my top salaries
and I better be pretty good on offense if I'm healthy.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I mean, I look at the Detroit game. I was
very surprised.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I'm always I always seem like I'm on the outside
looking in when it comes to favorites. Yeah, I was
really carrying the banner for Jared Goff for MVP this season,
which he was doing, which he was doing pretty well
at the time, right Uh, I mean just really looking
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good through some really good passes in clutch situations all
season long, even the games as they lost by.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
The way, playing in the one of the worst divisions
in football, as it turns out if you look at
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
But it wasn't like that before the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
It turns out the Cowboys were playing in the best division.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And figure that conference. Go figure that, huh right.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah, and they went five hundred.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Man, come on, look at the teams that we did
beat outside of our division. Come on, this team was
right for agetting out yo yo, Gary go. I was
gonna say, well, now I see why everyone no one
wanted him for MVP.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
He's just the way it was.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
He ended up going back to the same old things
and he did back when he was with the Rams.
You know, you could see as he and Sam Donald
to me are from the same cloth, cut from the
same cloth. These guys don't like pressure. They don't perform
well underpression. And when I, of course, I'm gonna always
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compare this to what I've seen Dak do. Everyone talked
about how elite these guys were. Dak has been putting
been up against this kind of pressure for five For
the past five years, he's always looking at that kind
of pressure in big games. He's always had the most
pressures as a quarterback right put upon him. For I'd
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say he have to be in the top five in
the last three years as far as being hit by
more than most most quarterbacks. So when I look at him,
I look at Sam Donald, I look at Jared Goff.
You know, I was so disappointed in golf because I
thought he was gonna show me something different, and he didn't.
After all of these years, he's still that same quarterback.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
And the same thing happened to darnalda thing that was
the guy you were used to seeing, and it showed
up last game.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Right, it wasn't even close.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
It was like, what are you doing? And that was
the question you used to ask about that guy.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
When that's why defense is so good, That's why good
defense is so important. You stop a lot of things
from happening. I'll say this, A good defense stops.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Some history making plays. They stop history from happening.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Ye know, if we if you play good defense, then
then great plays don't happen.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I hate to point this part out because it sounds
so clich ish, but watching the college playoffs, the NFL playoffs,
if you ain't strong up front on both sides.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
That's it. That's it, ass Texas, that's Texas, right, Yeah,
you can't.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
They yours was under pressure and that's why. And those
are two tackles that are supposed to be first round
draft picks.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
And I keep hearing people saying about yours. It's like, yeah,
and any fumbled in the biggest play, and I'm going no,
it's right. Tackle didn't block the guy?
Speaker 5 (35:34):
My brother from you. He went to ut He hates
the do what what is wrong?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
He gets blind sighted by a guy that should have
been blocked.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
But you know, we'll see when it comes to us
next year. But man, as far as a college quarterback,
as far as the University of Texas, I think that's
the quarterback they needed at boy I hope Archie Manning
is at arch arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I hope that he.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Comes in here and does well because they are depending
on this young man a lot.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
By the way, my understanding is that, uh, just going
back to that, we got to go to a break
here on that goal line situation for Texas and Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Uh, arch arch was not available. They didn't.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You got him, he got he got hurt earlier on
the Remember the play he ran the ball, he popped
up the ball down. Yes, I understand he was in
protocol and so he was on. No one's ever said
anything about that, But that's my understanding from inside sources
down there.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
And just look at Notre Dame last night. The left
tackle who hadn't played all year. You had to go
in there and play against their best pass rush, and
he struggled right and turned a guard and he yeah,
kicked out the tackle.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
And then you got Kansas City. They got one of
the best guards in the league, Joe Toney. They've had
to kick him out, attack and struggle and so anyway,
all right, we continue with more mix shines in a moment.
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They didn't give you the dates.
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Speaker 2 (39:51):
That's it?
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Well when's the when's the Shrine Bowl?
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Speaker 2 (39:59):
You don't even have a for the trying.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
For at and T Stadium.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah.
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Well we've been We've gotten a lot of a lot
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Speaker 2 (40:17):
And so.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
All right, uh, this little note that sounds like the
Jets have targeted Aaron Glenn as their new head coach.
He's talking with them today and the goal he played there,
Yes he did. He was drafted first round draft pick
of the Jets out of Texas A and M. And
the goal is to keep him from leaving the building
today the next head coach of the New York Jets.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
I just really like him, like him as a person,
like the way he coaches the way he speaks, I
think he would be good. And again, we got to
remember when you're hiring a head coach, it's got to
be somebody can stand in front of seventy people five
days a week and hold their attention like, Okay, this
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guy knows what he's talking about, or at least you
say it like you know what you're talking about. Not
every coordinator is a head coach.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
It's you know, some guys have to manage, you know.
He Some guys are good at head coaching. Some are
two different skill set of.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Being hands on.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
You know, you have to, like you said, you have
to capture their attention every day, all day.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And you have to have to be able to manage
a team.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
You have to be able to manage people, you know,
And as defensive coordinator, I'm sure he's done that on
a partial from a partial standpoint, and I would imagine
the way he saw Dan Campbell do it.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
He's been back there with him the entire time.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
And we're going to get to the Bills and the
Ravens here in just second, But real quick, what did
you see in Bill Parcells in the way he managed people?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
He was really good and how he was able to.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Because with Parcels, he and George Young didn't like each other,
so he had to deal with.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
A hostile GM.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
GM and I mean they hated each other. I mean
it was so clear.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
When boom Bill left, George was like, yeah, I finally
got what I needed.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
And then he made the mistake on who he hired
after well.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, I mean he made the mistake by not liking part.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Sales, you know, not dealing and and and dealing with
him better on on a more even basis. Uh pars
Sales was able to keep management out of the player's way.
He was always good at he He always said, I
want the team and management to hate me, not.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
To hate each other.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
He was the goal between Okay, keep keep George, keep
you away from my players, you know, let you. I'll
talk to you about my players. That that's what you
talked to me about. You don't go talk to my players.
I'll take care of that. And when it came to management,
if players had a beef, then we had to go
strictly to Parcels. Don't go above him. You could if
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you wanted to. He wouldn't hold it against you. But
the way he.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Wanted it was you come talk to me about it.
I will handle management. So he was just a real
good middle man.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
And the one thing that he did here he brought
in a couple of his guys and they were the
locker room guys of course, right, they kind of not.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
He believed in that.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Not only ran the locker room, but he was the
go between between the players and himself.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
And most likely it was a linebacker. Is a linebacker
type of person?
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Was it Gary? He had? He had somebody on defense offense?
Was Richie Anderson?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
So he could kind of monitor. He didn't go in
the locker room, but he had locker room monitor, that's right.
And uh yeah, and he commanded.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
It was usually call Banks or Pepper Johnson type that
would he would take them with it. He took him
to Cleveland. You saw what happened when Pepper went to Cleveland. Yeah,
come back in here, and they whipped out butts, you know,
after they got rid of me. So I'm like, yeah,
they don't need you ever.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
But I guess my question for you is more along
the lines of how he dealt with players on a
daily basis as far because a lot of it was
the antagonism type. But he also if it was he
one of those types that if he's given you a
hard time, that means he likes you.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
If he's given you a hard time, yes, that means
you better. That means you better tighten up. Okay, that's
what that means.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
But he's also there's a good nature.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
Yeah that if he if he doesn't give you a
hard time.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
You're out. That's right, Yeah, that's right. That's the point
right there.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
But he's engaging.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
He engaged with you, then he he wants to work
with you.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, you've got you've got a future.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
He's he's he's you know, he's checking out you. He's
checking your temperature. I see what you're about. And so
you know, when I first got there, he did the
same thing with me. Uh he went around asking uh,
some of the players that not just came in with me,
but those were that were there, asking them what kind
of person did they think I was?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
What kind of player did they think I was?
Speaker 5 (45:30):
He asked Thorn Channel, He asked Steve Diassi, but he
also asked Pepa Johnson, and he also asked Called Banks.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
But that's all part of managing people.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
No doubt, Because he talked to different types of people.
That's right.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
That's why. That's the way he treated the media too.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
But that didn't work for them.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Yeah, well, if you were smart, you understood if he
was on you, he was paying attention.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
At least it may sound to an outsider like, well
he really gave Mickey a hard time, but he was.
Actually I told you that new Jersey.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
That's new Jersey.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
He's a New Jersey guy. You know, they're gonna be
real with you. But come on, I'm gonna be real
with you. I'm not trying to go behind anybody else's back.
I'm coming to you. But you have some who if
I'm plus salesmann come to you in that manner, they're
still uncomfortable and they will go and complain and they will,
you know, take note unnecessarily.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
That's the half Italian in them.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
I think it is.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
It is, it is, I mean, and you gotta love
it because it's real. You know, give me a coach
that's not gonna be ask me man, I really and
some some players can see it coming.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
And then and the players who can't handle it, they
don't need to be honest. Team.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
That's why the culture there when I went, when I
came from here, and simply because we had gone through
so much here with the Cowboys. There are a lot
of builty excuses, a lot of finger pointing, a lot
of blaming every just everywhere. But when you when I
went to New York, the whole thing was nobody's blaming anybody.
We are in this locker room. It's the most solid
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locker room I've ever seen. And I've never been on
the defense. I've never been on the defense like that before.
I mean, I played with some great players here. I've
never been on the defense and had that kind of
culture to where they were the stars of the team.
The culture was defense, and if you stopped them on
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third and two, you got a standing ovation in the stands,
you know.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
And I think that's why I'm not sure about Bloodshell.
But like guys like Drew Henson, Chad Hutchinson, they were
not never gonna shrunk. Yeah yeah, but Romo hard. It
was for Phil Simms, but Romo is not the sensitive
type where Romo will flourish under it. Yeah, okay. And
Witton was the same way. It's tough guy. Yeah, you
(47:53):
love with them, sure right, all right? Tell me about
the Bill's Ravens.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
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So sorry. Good pass, right, good pass. It was good.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
It could have been you know, he kind of he
kind of aimed it, you know, and it was right.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
There's the championship.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
It's kind of like I think it's the same way
that Roger talks about the past that Jackie Rogers. I
thought that immediately, but but but Roger would say that,
you know, I should have given him a better pass.
Speaker 5 (48:23):
But he still got to catch it, right. You come on, guys,
I remember Drew Pierson. I'll never forget you Pierson. He
talked about how wide receivers complained about they want to
pass it. He said, anywhere in here youth is a
good pass that you.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Can be as low as you want. Just kiss the damn.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Ball, bro And he's their best receiver.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
And he's the best receiver. Well, Jackie, he made more
than one mistake in this game though. Yeah, he made
like three mistakes. We had to fumble bumble, Yeah, another.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Mispass, saying like with Jackie Smith, people forget that he's
in the Hall of Fame, but so does Mark. Andrews
drops that ball and Jackie Smith starts trending on Twitter
and trended in.
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already used it.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
I was texting with Babeloffenbury what I said earlier in
the show that, uh, you know Ryan Day, Yeah, he
quit running his offense late in that game, you know,
and he got close on him. And I said, that's
what link. That was the most frustrate One of the
most frustrating thrink things with Lincoln Riley at OU is
that he would he would shut down the offense once
he got a lead in the game. Case in point,
(49:40):
they played in the College Football Playoff semi final, one
of the great ones at the Rose Bowl against Georgia,
which wound up being a fifty to forty eight game
or something like that. But they got way up on
him and then he shut down the offense, and I said,
I texted the baby. I said, yeah, And in that
game he had Baker Mayfield, CD Lamb and Jackie Smith.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Mark Andrews gotta be like Jimmy and throw the slant
to Elvin Harper in the ninety two seed title again, right.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
I mean, you know, we could have been looking at
a really classic over time.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
So when we.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Oh, yeah, can you imagine if that game went overtime?
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Man, So when we reconvene on Monday, Nick shots at eleven,
we're going to have a new head coach. No, I
don't think so. Yeah, I think we could.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Do you think we could? I think Jason Witten will
be named the new head coach by Monday at eleven eight.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
I think he'll have a spot. I think he'll have
a spot on the spot on the on the staff.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
You think he wants that, I mean just the tight
end coach.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
I don't think he wants just the tight end coach.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, well eventually, No, but.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
I don't think you got to think about what he's
given up. He's got two more years coaching his son,
so I think I think just me, just me talking here,
I think he the only way that he would give
that up coaching his youngest son for his older son
(51:21):
is going to Rice. So he's already graduated, he's got
one more one of the top recruits in the country,
a safety. He's got him for two more years. He
would be given that up. So if he were giving
that up, he would be want to be more than
just a tight ends coach. He would want to be
a position on the staff where he is.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
I'll give me some promises. It'd better be a hell
of a promise. I'd better be considered for something.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Or he's getting better, He's getting more. Uh, he's getting
better experience than just being in the tight end room
for an eventual goal of being a head coach in the.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
NFL is Remember they keep comparing that to Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbell coached in the NFL quite a while before
he got the head.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
Come out, and Whitten was in the NFL for seventeen years.
So it's it's gotta go quick learning curve here, all right?
Bell went off at eleven am on Monday.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
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the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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