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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is Mick Shot streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones,
Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
And it's ten am on a Tuesday. So what does
that mean? That means we're starting two hours early today
inside the SWBC podcast studio as Tampa Bay Week has
begun for us here on mix shots, Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
and Mickey Spagnola. We are just very proud of the
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fact that we all remembered that we are two hours
early today.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
We had to turn our right, that's right, Yes, get
us out of our routine, yep.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And so there's luck to get too. After a full
weekend of NFL games, including two Monday night games last
night that looked like better matchups probably if they'd been
in September than December. But here we are. We move
on to week number sixteen and the Cowboys still have
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playoff hopes.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
They had us, they actually had us, they put in
the hunt.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Hunt. Still we're back in the hunt after one win, and.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
The Saints are under us.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
We're second to last and the Saints last, moving on up,
moving on up.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But I tell you.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
The Saints still have a chance.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think they're like five and seven something.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Just because of their division. Maybe if if Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Loses out, they're five and nine, so they're three games
back with three to go there.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So that's why they're still technically.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
In it, and they probably to play like the Cowboys
sound to.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
But we figured out the path, and what helped on
the path was Atlanta winning last night. You want to
root for Atlanta. You wanted Atlanta to keep on keeping
on because you wanted Atlanta to be up there at
least tied with Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
You want them to get You want them to win
the win is division, right, Otherwise they've got to lose.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Because you lost to Atlanta. You don't want to be
involved in any sort of tiebreaker that.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Included you basically have to lose.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
They need to get ahead of or at least even
with Tampa Bay because they beat Tampa Bay twice, so
they have the tiebreaker on them for the division, right,
and as it plays out here, the Atlanta success helps you.
Now obviously the Cowboys have to win out, but and
a win over Tampa Bay helps Atlanta's cause too. But Washington,
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they play Philadelphia this week and then they play Atlanta,
and so if Atlanta will keep winning games, that helps
the Cowboys. And you just want to get to that
last week where you have a chance to catch Washington.
And that's without regard to what happens in the West.
You need help out there too.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Well the way, uh, I wouldn't a step further on
all that stuff. So, yes, you don't want to end
up in a tie with Atlanta. If you end up
win a tie with Washington, which means they got to
lose out and you got to win out and you'll
have the time, you'll have the tie breaker if they
also need Seattle to lose two games if they're a
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wild card team, right, so if the Rams win the West,
then so.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
You want the Rams to go ahead and go ahea business,
take care business went on out Rams.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
If the Cowboys end up in a tie at nine
and eight with Seattle and Arizona, they win the tiebreaker
on a on the basis of a better NFC record.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
In Washington would be included.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
In that right and Washington you would win head to
head right.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But the but if there's a four way tie.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Oh, you mean a four way tie for that last.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Spot, right, because that was you're gonna the best you
can do is tie Washington. But so you got to
look at it first. You have to look at a way.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
And you would beat Washington on NFC record, but.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You don't get to that until you get it in
a head to head tiebreaker with them. So here first
you got it, but first you got to win the
multi team tiebreaker. And so to your point, they have
a better conference. Cowboys would have a better conference record
than any combination of Dallas, Washington and the West teams.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Correct, because the best that helps clarify things because if
Seattle and Arizona don't get to ten wins, then they're
going to end up five and seven and four and
eight in the NFC, and the Cowboys could end up
seven and five. So that's the tiebreaker that would go forward.
But you would need none of those teams to get
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to ten wins because the Cowboys can't get ten right, right.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And so in order to do that for Seattle, which
is eight and six right now, they need to lose
two of their last three games and their final three
opponents are Minnesota, which they will not be favored in,
at Chicago, which they would be favored, and at the Rams,
which they probably would not be favored.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Before they can beat Chicago's okay.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
They're fine beating Chicago. They just need to lose to
Minnesota and Rams. And as far as Arizona, which is
at seven and seven right now, they're at Carolina, would
say that's a win. That's eight and seven. Then they
are at the Rams, make that a loss. They're eight
and eight, and then they finish against San Francisco and
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it doesn't matter then, right, So they just need to
lose one of their last three.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Right, and you have to make sure that nobody gets
to ten wins, because the Cowboys sure not get the ten.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Right, So it's actually doable, it is, it really is doable.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
As Mike and the problem.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
The biggest issue in this whole scenario, I think the
biggest issue is Dallas winning three games.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, and you got to beat Tampa Bay and they
have not done well against teams with winning records. And
then you've got to go on the road and beat
Philadehiladelphia which has a which.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
By the way, now has even though the division is
likely theirs, although they still haven't wrapped it up. Of
course they they're in the for the for the first
round by still.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, so they can't say, oh, that game doesn't matter
to us because they want that first round. It's Dallas too,
and it's and it's it's Dallas. And with Detroit in
Minnesota now tied at twelve and two, uh and Philadelphia
is twelve and two. So yeah, that first So.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
We have what we've done here ever since is we
have cleared a path. Okay, the the road is narrow,
and by the way, the gate is small, and the
road is narrow, and the lightest twilight.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
It's a doggy door. There's no gate. It's a doggy door.
I can see us trying to get through that hole.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
But yeah you can. As McCarthy said yesterday when it
was brought up, Yeah, we talked to the team about it.
They I mean, we know, But what I know is
we got to beat Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
They don't need to get into the mood. We just
got it, really, but they just need to know they
got to keep within.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
As I wrote, the if you look at the big picture,
it would be overwhelming. You got to just take snapshots.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yes, well they say one body of the time, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Now, And having said all of that, the Cowboys play
on Sunday night against Tampa Bay. And in order for
that game to mean something, yes, they need Washington to
lose to Philadelphia on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay, doable?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Okay, so you're you're an Eagle fan on Sunday afternoon,
So Washington otherwise they're eliminated.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
You realize Washington doesn't have an easy road.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, got it.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
They have to either beat Philadelphia, Atlanta or Dallas. And
beating Atlanta after watching last night may not be too difficult.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
But that's the Kirk Kirk Cousins homecoming games last.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Home another level of motivation.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
His last homecoming game to Minnesota did not work out
well for.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Can you guys realize how many what what slim hopes
that we're grabbing for? God, it's so slim. First of all,
Tampa is a good team, that's right, they really are.
I mean it's going a lot of points. Baker Mayfield
is I mean, he's just the guy to be wreckon with.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's just all of is to it. Uh, such a long.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Way from Carolina to now, right, he was just out
there just winging it in Carolina for.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, and even longer way from Cleveland, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Uh Beckham and is getting into arguments with everybody and
fighting with him and and now he just gets under
a regime that's you know for really experienced coaches.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Who who's the offensive coordinators?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Who did they because Dave Kanalis was there, Let me
look up real quick, clearly, I haven't done my research
yet on Tampa Bay.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Well, I mean, because first of all, you're dealing with
a got to be a future Hall of Fame at
Mike Evans. That kid is really good. He's dogged. Of course,
we've seen him before. We know what he can do
and can't do.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
But they lost some wide receivers, right, if I remember, well.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
They lost it was in that game they were trying
to come back and Chris Godwin got the final two
minutes of that game. Liam Cohen is our offensive coordinator
and he is spent some time with Sean McVay with
the Rams. He was the Kentucky offensive coordinator in college
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and then went to the Rams and went back to
Kentucky and so he was hired. But he was hired
to replace Dave Canalos who's now at Carolina the head coach.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
So and having said that, with the amount of points
they've been scoring, let's see on this see if they
have the points here for Tampa Bay. They have scored
four hundred and three points so far in the NFC.
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That ranks second behind Detroit, behind Detroit four h three
Detroit's four point fifty nine. And by the way, no
other team in the NFC has scored four hundred points.
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And here comes the Cowboys chugging along at two ninety eight.
That's twenty points a game.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, just about.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But they're coming off their Tampa Bay's coming off a
game in which they fell behind seventeen to ten against
the Chargers and then they rattled off thirty straight points
to end the game.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
So you know, I didn't really see the first half
of that game. Only the second half is what really
stands out. And what you see is a quarterback like
Baker Mayfield who really has a feel for this offense.
I don't really care who's playing. I guess the strength
of their team has to be their offensive line because
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he's able to negotiat in the pocket very well. They
keep him from getting into a lot of trouble, not
nearly the mistakes and turnovers that Baker Mayfield has been
known for in the past. And that is a problem
because when you get him outside the pocket, he's just
as dangerous as any other quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And what my memory is of him with Cleveland was
he was running for his life all the time, you know,
which was which to your point, when he gets out
of the pocket, he makes plays whatever, which is what
he did in college because he'd be running for his
life and he'd make a play and all the all
the time. And I think he figured out that what
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worked in college doesn't work in the NFL a lot
of times. That's what he figured out in Cleveland. And
then it continued at Carolina. And then after one practice
with Sean McVay with the Rams, all of a sudden
it clicked for it. And now, how about if he
didn't ever get.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
That that was the way this first game is, only.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It was like a Thursday game. He arrived on a
national It was he arrived on Tuesday, and he had
to play on Thursdays. And he won the game, and
that one moment in time just resurrected his career. And
then he bet on himself after that.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Okay, he.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Knew he was with a good coach. He knew he
was with a good coach who knew how to take
advantage of his lively own.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I mean, you can look at.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Bacer Mayfield easily call him Matt Stafford. You could easily
call him Stafford. I mean they play the same, they
have the same you know, little tricks with the ball
and ways to get rid of the ball. Brett fav
like stuff, same thing.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I think it was the second coming of the victory
of the uncluttered mind. He didn't know anything. He just
went out and played.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And but even for Sean mc sean McVay saw that
in him, you know. And so then just like he
did in college, he bet on himself after he was
at Texas Tech. Okay, Patrick Mahomes is there comes in
right after him. In fact, he I think he so
he was a non scholarship player, and Cliff Kingsbury wouldn't
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give him a scholarship because he had this guy named
Mahomes that was going to be their guy. So then
he transfers and walks on at Oklahoma and has to
back then Lo and behold, you had to sit out
a year even as a non scholarship player at both
places that you're at. And he was playing intermural football
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and winning on the intermural football field at Ou and
and Bob Stoops tells the story, he looks.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Like he's still out there playing in football.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
But even at Tech his true freshman year, he started
like five games at Tech and but then didn't get
a scholarship, and so he bet on himself and went
to Oklahoma, and even with you know what they had
at quarterback whatever you know, they he wins the job
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and becomes a starter for three years there and Kyler
Murray has to sit on the bench behind for a
full year.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So when he went to Oklahoma, did he go as
a walk on or a scholarship?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
He was a walk on. Stoops didn't even know who
he was when he walked into.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
His office or.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Hitting asked for n I L money back.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Then right right, so and so then after that stint
with the Rams, then he bet on himself again and
signs with Tampa Bay and then one season leads him
follows the greatest quarterback in the history of the game
and send them to the playoffs and then he gets
a bigger deal. You want to add an Now he's
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working on a bigger deal.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
You want to add another layer to that concern. No digs,
No Butler and Owaria and Lewis did not finish the game,
so they could be without could be. We'll find out
probably a little bit more tomorrow. They're top four current
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or four of their top five current cornerbacks having to
go up against everything. Bill just said, better get a
hell of a pass rush.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I'm going back to see those two corners that those
two dbs that they signed to the practice.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Squad, well, you're gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
D d Delaney and Troy Pride were signed to the
practice squad a week ago. And by the way, they
also signed it. I like this signing to the practice
squad last week. Brayden Daniels offensive guard. Uh. He was
a fourth round pick of Washington last year and then
he's had injury issues. He's been on like three different
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practice squads this year. But he's from Heburn High School.
I liked him coming out. He was in the big
Green notebook. That's a guy on down the road.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
I'll tell you what we don't just have to deal
with Baker Mayfield, and I'm talking myself into this. It
must be the offensive line, because was this guy, Bucky Irving. Yeah,
he's good, Well, hell Oregon, he's got a lot of holes.
I had a lot to choose from, you know. So
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sometimes when he's running through that line, he didn't even
get touched. And those are the kind of things that
make me nervous, having the guy that's shifty and he's
so small getting behind those big offensive linemen. You don't
know he's behind you until he was five years down,
five yards down the line.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Fourth round draft pick out of Oregon, Bucky Irving, rookie
one hundred and twenty fifth pick, and they were teaming
him with Rashad White, so they met that running back
by commit. Actually, like their third back, Sean Tucker out
of Syracuse, he had a neck injury, head injury coming
out and that's why he actually was not drafted. But
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he had a game earlier this season where he went
for one hundred and thirty one yards and fourteen carries himself.
So their run game is real, which again speaks to
what you're talking about. Their offensive line is real, and
one of the guys on that offensive line is their center.
Graham Barton, who's a first round draft pick who I
know is on the radar of the Cowboys. UH Cowboys
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opted to trade down and pick up a third round pick,
which in essence became Cooper Bebie their center, and UH
drafted Tyler Geydon, who, by the way, on Guyton, you
notice anything on him in the game the other day
that you notice him at the line of scrimmage where
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you know he hasn't had a tendency and he's gotten
called for this you know, illegal formation stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
He got his butt up on he was he.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Was clearly, clearly he has been coached to and it's
almost like he doesn't He did not have and I
didn't look closely. It is just at the snap of
the ball, I was like, all right, he's doing something
different with his yes, his stance and he you know,
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left tackles will put that left foot back, and he
was more square to the line of scrimmage. It seemed
like to me.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
And that's unusual for a tackle, right, Yeah, should have
told that to a dooga to get your butt on
the line of scrimmage?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Why why do you why does he.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Always do you want to go on a rent here
in the second that's okay.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
But regardless of how he set up, he played better.
He played more aggressively I thought.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
And he's got a negro.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
But without Yeah, that's the problem exactly.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
He's got to learn what.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Who was it?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Oh it was Tyler Smith. Remember all the holdings he got.
He wasn't holding he was he was punishing the guy
to the ground and they were calling hold.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Connor Williams did that all the time too.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, No, that's that's definitely, that's definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
It's like he won so finishing.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
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streaks can work against you.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yes, yeah, because that's what they see at the end, right, yep.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
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Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's why it's called the Mick rant.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
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Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And we're gonna see in just a moment if he's
got any more, if he's got left to the tank
when mix shots continues at a moment.
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Speaker 3 (24:20):
Okay, we continue with mix shots, and ever since has
been talking about this Tampa Bay offensive line, and he's
jumped the gun on me because normally I don't really
start studying the opponent until Wednesday of the week, and
so I've been scrambling here in the break trying to
answer some of his questions the offensive line for Tampa Bay. Everson.
(24:41):
One of the reasons that they're successful on offense is
exactly what you're pointing to. And right off the top
of my head, what I see with this offensive line
is they have been virtually injury free, really, and if
you look across the board in the National Football League,
the teams that are successful, it's usually you can point
to their offensive line. In this case, whatever area of
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a team you're talking about, it's because they still got
their regular players playing and they have invest Tampa Bay
has invested in their offensive line. Their first round draft pick,
Tristan Wirfs was the thirteenth overall pick, and he's on
his second contract now. And as I mentioned, Graham Barton.
Their center is a first round pick. Cody Mock, their
right guard was a second round pick last year. So
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it's been here in the last couple of years with
those two guys that they've shored things up. The one
injury issue they've had is a right tackle. They've had
a couple of guys that have played there. But which
gets me to the Detroit Lions. And remember when the
Cowboys played the Lions and how that game went.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Okay, you mean this year?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
This year?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Okay, and it was a forty two to fourteen game
whatever it was, and they did lose Aiden Hutchinson in
that game. Okay, But prior to the Aiden Hutchinson injury
and leading into that game, one of the most and
that was like the fifth game of the season. One
of the most remarkable things about the Detroit Lions coming
into that game, in my opinion, was how they their
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injury list was about one or two players deep and
they were backup players. Since then, they have been losing players.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I remember. I remember on.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
The heels of that game, I said, let's wait and
see where the Lions are at the end of the season.
Because the injury bug hasn't hit them yet and since
then it has now hit them and it's coming waves
now here. In the last week or so.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
They lost to their line, right, they lost defensive line.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Well one of them was a dB. Yeah, they got
the job.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Broken jaw Carlton Davis and then Ali McNeil, their defensive
tackle who's won the best defensive tackles in the league.
He's for the year, but also on offense now David
Montgomery as a season ending thee So now that we'll
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
But I saw it come across.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
The duo of Montgomery and Gibbs has now been broken apart.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
So you're telling me other people have problems other than
the Cowboys having to play their backup guard at backup center, yep.
And the backup keep back guard just keep going.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
But I mean, you look at it across the league
and it really is survival of the fittest, especially with
seventeen games. Uh huh. That's right, and that that's where
you're see in Tampa Bay is getting on a roll here. Well,
if you look across at their roster, they have been
able to stay pretty healthy. Yeah. That they had a
span there where they Evans and Godwin they both lost
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that both of them the wide receiver, but they got
Evans back. And that's why when Jerry.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
That's that's a big back.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, that's they are dangerous.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah right, And and Kate otten are tied in has
emerged as a real receiving threat this year. Uh. But
that's why back when the Cowboys lost to Ron Bland
in the preseason and Jerry was like, you know what,
that's all right. You know, it's all right because we're
going to get him back, right, you know. And so
that's the way you have to look at things in
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this league is the injuries that occur that they're if
they're coming back in four weeks, eight weeks, whatever, you
still got a chance. But when you lose him for
the season, that's when like Diggs, like and and and
especially for the Cowboys now, even looking ahead to next season,
when you've got two huge question marks to start the
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season next year, unprojected starters and overshown in.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Digs, well you might add, I mean he should be ready.
But you can add Sam Williams to that too, getting
back from his tarrant, he's got.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
A he's got a four month head start.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Yeah, on the right, right, So you would hope, but again,
Diggs may not be ready to start the season next
next year.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Well, you know, when you look at this team, I
see a coach that is extremely underrated. You see Todd
Bowles and I talk about at times. I talk about
the Baltimore culture, you know, talk about the culture that
they have in Philadelphia. Uh, you know, tough minded coaches
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and players that just play above themselves.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I think this Tampa team is a lot like that.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Todd Bowles is one of the most underrated coaches I
think in the NFL. First of all, he's so quiet,
you know, he's you know, doesn't He's so unassuming about
everything that he does.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
He's underrated by outsiders. People in the in the league
have the highest.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Respect for him, and he has really come through.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
At this point. They're trending up with right now. I've
seen them have their problems. I've seen Baker Mayfield not
do so well outside the pocket, even though Mike Evans
had come back. I've seen them lose a couple of
games where you know, the defense was just better than
they will and so they're doable. There's no doubt that
they are doable. We can take care of this team.
(30:18):
But you have to worry about a culture, a team
that has a culture of being one of the toughest
teams in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Sounds like you better score thirty points to beat.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Him, no doubt, because Baker, Baker's gonna He's gonna make it.
He's one of those guys is very dangerous when he
falls behind, very dangerous when he falls behind.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And with Todd Bowles, I mean it goes back. Of
course he was here twenty years ago, but his time.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
He was at Grambling. He was the DC at Grambling
when Doug was a coach.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
That he was on Parcels Parcels staff as the defensive
line coach, right, really, yeah, defensive.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Line would have thought he was secondary coach.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Oh maybe secondary. Yeah, you're right, it was secondary. I
was thinking of Casey Rogers.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Who I think it was on his staff. Casey Rogers
is a co defensive coordinator. Yeah, and he would Casey
was with them with the Jets too. Yeah, and he's
followed him. I guess he's probably with Arizona with him too,
I don't know, but.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, Bowles was. He was a good hand mm hmmm
for the Cowboys for sure. So you got a with
all these backups playing on the offensive line. You got
a reasonable explanation for why the running game now is flourishing,
(31:43):
other than maybe who you're playing against.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Apparently it's Cooper Rush. What I'm hearing, is it Cooper
Rush the reason? Said the coaches yesterday said it too.
Was it Schottenheimer?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Well it would have been.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Is he the Schoenheimer McCarthy yesterday was talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I don't think McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I think it was Schottenheimer talking about the pre snap
reads and the what the what the quarterback is doing
is to get them in the right the offensive line
in the in the right spot for the run blocking.
So apparently it's all Cooper Rush.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I can't give that to Cooper. I like Cooper.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Jerry.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Jerry also, Lie is just playing better.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
He said that just playing. Jerry said on today podcast,
I mean on his segment that they're blocking it different.
So I don't know if they that's beyond me.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
So so you're saying that the quarterback is the reason
that they're blocking, But.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
He also said the quarterback had something.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
If the quarterback made some adjustments with the defense the
offensive line and now they're blocking.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Better, maybe it's identifying that Mic linebacker they have Dak
had a problem.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
But it almost suns when when when when Zeke was
his brother?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Bet, yeah, that guy trying to find the linebacker.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
They might be well before, Rico has been the starting
running back since day one. Since since the first game
of the first game of the season, Zeke was the
starting run back. Rico became the starting running back in
Week two. So just everyone clear on that, Okay, But
apparently it has something to do with the line calls.
(33:27):
And Cooper is well, and he he's so quick to
make decisions even pre snap and post snap.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Is that the deal?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Well, that's what was said on the radio this morning.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Well, he said the quarterback processing very quickly. He said,
the quarterback is making good decisions, good at the line decisions.
So I don't know how that fits into the blocking
scheme has changed.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Well, the quarterbacks in involved in making those line calls,
and he is.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
I mean, but I can't say that these guys were
just playing better.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The offensive line is blocking better.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
That's right, How they're the runs, how the runs are decided, which.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Once again, quarterback has nothing to do with that, right,
That's all I'm trying to say. I mean, you know,
he just calls it, just the words come out of
his mouth and then he hands it off when he's
not stumbling.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
And but I mean, think about it, though, three straight
games rushing, it's been a while since.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
That that offensive line is getting feeling real good. Of course,
we're not playing against the best teams.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Well, that's that was about to bring out. When Derek
Brown was playing defensive tackle for the Carolina Panthers last year,
they were a lot more difficult to run. Again, he
got hurt the first week of the season. Okay, they
also are down Shaq Thompson at linebacker, and they didn't
have their rookie Trevin Wallace this week at linebacker, and
(35:05):
their last against the run, their last against the run
in the East NFL.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
And you've got we played the Giants before that, right,
you know, I mean, I don't know that if their
running game is any good, then we played.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
We just beve we beat somebody before that.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
So, well, how about Cincinnati's defense? How they do it
this year? Yeah, they've said they've tied the NFL record
for most losses, having scored thirty points in a game.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
And that that's because they suck.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
So now, so now we find out right right, got
two teams with winning records, actually three.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
That was something I was going to mentioned.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I was thinking about it last night, just about how
you know, with the last four games that's with except
for Cincinnati, those teams weren't really respected that much. This
team here, they have lots of experience. The coach is good,
the quarterback is good, They're good at every position.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
If we think we.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Deserve to be in the playoffs, this is the game
that we have to win.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
These are the games that we're gonna have to win three. Yeah,
just like that.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
So you're gonna have to play so far above yourself
from what you've been playing. It may not be above
yourself from last year, but from what we've been doing
this year. Everybody and every area of our team has
to play a whole lot better than they have been,
even though we're proud of what they've been doing so far.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
The last three four games.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Cincinnati came in at four and eight. Right now, they've
won two straight.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
The Giants came in at two and whatever and ten
maybe I think, and they are losing.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And then this.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Team came in at three and ten.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Carolina, So as the Cowboys have won three of their
last four.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Games, and before Cincinnati, well it.
Speaker 10 (37:07):
Was it was the starting with the Washington game, Washington, right, okay, Washington,
and then the Giants lose to Cincinnati in heartbreaking fashion
and then win at Carolina.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
That's what they've done. And I'm telling you Washington is
not as good.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Else they are record. They are taking advantage of the
last place schedule.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Think about think about Washington, but also think about Washington
and what a couple of their wins have come against
Chicago on a Hail Mary, and then this game against
New Orleans. If New Orleans converts on a two point conversion, they.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Lose that game.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
So just then they would create they're not that good.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
They would be a five hundred team, right if they
had lost that two games, that's right, regardless of whatever else.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
The problem is, you got to get to that game
meaning for them, get to that game. It's make it meaningful.
I can't remember, did we already.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Take their no? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah, all right, let's take another break. It would be
back teraftics up and.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I'll let you know what else. Jerry said on his
segment today.
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Speaker 3 (40:42):
All right, very good, Mickey. What else did Jerry have
to say this morning on the radio.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
I don't know why this came up. This is important.
Somebody asked him if he's ever eaten raccoon.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
It came up because Xavier Legette of the Carolina Panthers
made headlines by saying that he has.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Eaten raccoon, and so they asked Jerry if he'd eaten
raccoon and the answer was absolutely, either honey or his
mama made the best raccoon. And he added that and
one of the best things she cooked with squirrel.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
I was gonna say I've had squirrel. Yeah, I've never
had raccoon. So Jerry's on record for raccoon. Also, he
was asked.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
About somehow this got out there. I don't know how
Steven answered the question about, you know, the salary cap
going to be tight. They acted like tight again and
I'm going, no, it's going to be tight or because
of the count tracks you just signed, right.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Why is that news?
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Because I don't know Steven said something that made them
think that they can't sign Micah, and Jerry basically said,
no one said in this organization we can't sign Micah.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Well, the problem is they can't sign anybody else.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Right, right, exactly like, do you want to resign Rico?
Depending on what somebody else offers him? Can you resign
Osa because of the way he's playing, he's gonna get
some attention. Can you resign Kendricks who was playing on
a one year deal? So that's the problem, but he
(42:38):
wanted to make sure that the salary cap was going
to be tight next year, But he did not mention
anything about not being able to sign.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
I think if you have a team, you can pay
three superstars, right.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
But not at the top of their position, which was rare.
You're headed right now. CD is second, right, but he's
really first because guess what in Minnesota they got income
they got state income tax.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Because we're talking as far as the salary caps, yes, yes,
I mean, but you're right, you can. You just have
you have to hit on all of the not all
of them, but you have to have a keep churning
the roster with finding those players who can do what
(43:39):
these players are doing right now, these these undrafted guys
that are performing.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
There time to play, buddy.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
If we don't have no development time to get you
but out here that's well.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
And with the injuries, I mean, I would love somebody,
and especially with the new reserve rules now injured reserve
is used a lot more than they couldn't be used.
But once a year, you know, not that long ago.
Are there more injuries now than what there were twenty
(44:15):
years ago? It sure seems like it. We kind of
talked about that, yeah, which means that you have to
have a ninety man roster. Basically you go to training
game with a ninety man roster. And most of these
teams were, including the practice squad they're using throughout the
course of the year, seventy five to eighty players easily.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
I don't have time to count it, but I will
for tomorrow and see how many guys have actually played
in a game. And I bet it's getting I did
it at one point and it was in the low sixties.
I bet it's the seventy by.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
No, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it's seventy five.
And what was especially with the practice squad elevations, you
are naturally good. I have some and so like, if
a guy is hurting for a week or so, you
can not make him active for a week, and you
elevate a practice squad guy, and that's going to raise
those numbers some than what they used to do. But
(45:11):
I mean, I think it's been great for the league
and for those journeymen players to be able to have opportunities.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
You know, you don't know who the hell anybody is anymore.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
It's great for them to still have life in the league.
Josh Butler, I mean, and Kemon Hall, you know, those
keep on going. We have a bunch of Yeah, there's
a whole bunch of them. And other teams have those
same guys that are able to continue to keep hope
alive for their NFL careers.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
And I must admit it's impressive to watch this team
do the same thing. I mean, you don't know half
the defensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
You don't know. You definitely don't know half the DB's.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
I'm about to ask bags, who do we have left
at defensive back?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Do we even have a dime package?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
He's not miss distracted sixty six five right now?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
We have sixty five die packages.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
No sixty five players have played at least one snap.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Wow, that's a lot. That's a lot.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
And there might be more because I didn't I didn't
look at the special teams. I was just counting the
offense defense.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
It's gonna get seventy five.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
So oh well, didn't McCarthy say when they won the
superventy so use seventy seven?
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, so nothing's changed.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
And now that was seventeen games. Yeah, Now that there's
seventeen games, you're gonna need more.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Okay, Mickey, you have a TV assignment.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
You got do I do?
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Where can we catch this?
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Cowboys on your station tomorrow morning? Oh okay, all right,
Cowboys today.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
CBS Texas tomorrow. It's eight twenty five five, okay, all right,
we'll look forward to do that and.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
I'll be on the fan in thirteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
And Everson looks forward to the mess hall opening here
in thirteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
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Speaker 3 (47:01):
Hey yeah, yeah, I gotta go otherwise. We'll be back
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