September 29, 2023 • 13 mins
On this episode of "The Snap," Sydney Jones is joined by FOX Sports NFC North reporter Carmen Vitali to discuss what she’s seen from Bears quarterback Justin Fields through the first three weeks of the season, how quarterback Russell Wilson will fare going up against the Bears defense and more. Carmen also details her role with FOX Sports, what her transition was like from a team to a network and more. Want more of "The Snap"? Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, TuneIn, Stitcher or wherever you find your podcasts. Make sure to leave a rating and review.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey to score this sudden. Hey, this is Tim Patrick.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Are you listening to The Snap with Sidney Jones on
Broncos Podcast Network?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Here?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
What's the Broncos Country?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome back to the Broncos Podcast Network and YouTube for
the latest.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Episode of The Snap. As always, from your.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Host is Sidney Jones and the Broncos are on the
road again this weekend and we'll look to grab their
first win of the season as they're said to face
the Chicago Bears on Sunday. So joining me for this
week's episode of The Snap is a Fox Sports NFC
North reporter Carmen Vites. Hallie, Carmen, thanks for joining the
show today.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Thanks so much for having me siin. I'm excited to be.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Here, excited to have you. How are you doing? How
are things going good?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
All things considered, I get to cover an entire division,
so I get to take the good with the bad.
And it happens to be that the Bears are kind
of on the bad end of names right now. So
it's hectic in Chicagoland right now, and there's desperation permeating
throughout the city. But I think that's probably, uh, that's
probably there's probably similar sentiment there in Denver.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Week four is quickly approaching here, so let's dive into
this matchup. I know both teams are heading into Sunday's
game winless. You know, both teams are coming off pretty
tough losses the past week.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So I guess what just intrigues you about this matchup.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's gonna be who wants it more, who's more desperate
at this point. I mean, it's not a sexy storyline
by any stretch of the imagination, but both of these
fan bases are desperate for a win. And I think
that from the Broncos perspective, losing the way they did
last week to the Dolphins, I mean, that was the
talk of the NFL. But the Bears lost not quite
(01:32):
as badly, but in the same way that maybe the
score didn't reflect that they nothing went right. There was
no glimmer of hope. There was nothing that you could
kind of latch onto and say, Okay, this is good.
Let's build off of this that hasn't existed in Chicago
for the first three weeks of the season, and so
I think that that's what Bears fans need to see.
That's what the Bears coaching staff and players need to
(01:54):
see is just something to go right. And I don't
know if that's the sentiment necessarily in Denver, but I
know both of these teams are desperate, and so you're
gonna see whose desperation wins out.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, I know it seems like injuries have kind of
been mounting up there for the Bears, specifically in the secondary.
So how do you think Russell Wilson in company will
fair gon up against this Bears defense.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think this is a get right game for Russell Wilson.
I think you know, he's a guy, he's a very
smart quarterback. He knows exactly what he's looking at. He's
been in this league forever. There's nothing he hasn't seen.
So I think he's going to be able to take
advantage of some of these miscues and missteps and miscommunications
that we're seeing from the Bear's defense. And quite frankly,
that's inexcusable when you have a defensive head coach who
(02:38):
is now calling the plays. The Bears DC Allan Williams
resigned just last week and now this is Eberflus's defense.
It was before, but it is now and he's calling
these plays. So you need to figure out. I think
their coverage is just really stressed because they're not getting
any pressure up front whatsoever that front for and Matti
Verflus came out today and said, we need to get
(03:01):
pressure with four. We're going to still keep sending four,
and I think I thought that was a little weird
coming from a defensive coordinator to admit to the fact
that he's not probably going to blitz a lot. Of course,
we know the blitzing doesn't necessarily mean pressure. You can
get pressure with four. I'm just not sure the Bears
have those guys. So I think that Russell Wilson is
going to have time in the pocket, and I think
he's going to be able to pick apart this defensive secondary, which,
(03:23):
like you mentioned, has injuries and also just has a
ton of miscommunication and miscues along the way.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, looking on at the weapons on both teams here,
what do you think will really be.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
The matchup to watch this weekend?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think a lot of it has to do with
the trenches. I mean, that's kind of my calling card
as a person, as a reporter, As a journalist, I
pay special attention to both sides of the line of
scrimmage just because I feel like everything starts and ends there,
and like I said, the Bears are struggling to get pressure.
And if they and that's a good offensive line that
Russell Wilson has, I think it's a little bit underrated,
(03:58):
and it's they haven't light up necessarily either to I
think their potential. So if they can protect him against
an anemic pass rush that the Bears have, I think
they're going to be really they're going to be better off.
And then consequently, the Bears offensive line has also been
riddled with injury that's been shuffling. Despite the fact they
thought they were going to come into this season with
(04:19):
some continuity, injuries prevented that, and they're still trying to
figure things out and protect Fields. I think that they're
doing a better job protecting him than most people think.
I think a lot of it is Fields kind of
not trusting it, bailing out when he doesn't necessarily need to,
not seeing guys get opened down the field half the time,
I think the start running the wrong routes. But if
that Denver defensive front can get to them, that's going
(04:42):
to be It's going to make Justin Field's day really hard.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Last one about the match up here for you, Carmen,
you know, I know here in Denver, head coach on
pay and he's talked a lot this week about improving
the attention to details at practice and that really you
can't ignore these losses, but you still have to pick
yourself up, you still.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Have to get ready for the next week.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So what's just been the message over there in Chicago,
what's the focus for this Bears team as they head
into this week?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
It's much of the same. Maddie keeps stressing details, and
he was talking about microing it down to each individual
player and making sure that each individual player knows what
they're supposed to be doing and make sure they're paying
special attention to the details. Maddie would Post also said
that he believes the Bears are close and that's what
(05:24):
he's seeing. I don't know if that's optimism. I don't
know if that's you know, trying to instill belief in
a locker room that is being tested incredibly so right now.
So I think that it comes down to a communication,
attention to detail. That's kind of all the things that
these guys are stressing, and just continuing to believe in
(05:45):
one another, because that's what they have to fall back
on through this incredible adversity that the Bears are singing.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Right well, Karmen.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
As many of my listeners know here on the staff,
one of my main goals is to highlight women's impact
in and around the NFL. So I want to switch
gears for the last few minutes of this episode here,
you know, just to start.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
What is your role with Fox Sports really entail?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It entails kind of having a pulse on four different teams.
I covered the entire division in the NFC North. I'm
lucky enough to have grown up in that division, although
it was the NFC Central when I was growing up.
I grew up outside Chicago, grew up a Bears fan.
These were the teams that I paid special attention to
my entire life, so I had the benefit of that.
But it's pretty difficult to try and be in four
(06:29):
places at once. Obviously that's not something that's physically possible.
It should work, but it entails a lot of travel,
and it just entails a lot of talk about attention
to detail, you know, listening back to all of these
press conferences. I watched the as soon as I can
get my hands on the all twenty two of these games.
That's kind of what I'm watching for. I'm watching these
(06:51):
games multiple times every week, trying to get a feel
for what happened in each of them and what the
storylines are when it comes to all these teams. But
most importantly, I think it's also about the relationships that
I've built within each market and each city, whether that's
within the team itself, on coaches and players, or even
if it's media members that are there every day. I
(07:12):
lean a lot on other people, and I'm really grateful
to have the relationships that I do, because I wouldn't
be able to do my job without them.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And this is your second year with Fox Sports, right
it is, So what did you kind of your path
look like to land this role here.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I actually wanted to be a sports writer starting at
the age of nine. Wow, I've been very singularly focused
my entire life. Amazing. I was watching. My dad grew
up in Philadelphia, so he's him and his family are
huge Eles fans, Like if you've ever seen Silver Linings playbook,
that's yes, gosh, chew a tea. And so I remember
(07:49):
watching games with my dad and my uncles and my
cousins and noticing people on the sidelines that weren't players
or coaches and asking him, you know, who are those people?
And my dad told me, you know, there's can do
a ton of things for a team. And at that
point I had already been interested in writing as a child,
and he said, you can write stories about your favorite
football team. And I was like, oh, really, so that's
(08:10):
what I decided I wanted to do is I wanted
to write stories about my favorite football team. And that
took me after college. I went to journalism school, I
did my masters at Northwestern, and then it took me
to the Buccaneers, where I did what you did what
you do a little more emphasis on writing. But I
was a staff writer and team reporter for the Buccaneers
for six years and that really kind of gave me
(08:33):
the foundation for the relationships I started to build and
how to really approach covering a team, because it's different
when you're on a team side. You get the benefit
of really being in it with the guys. And that's
an experience that I will always treasure and it's something
I try to take with me because it helped me
see the human aspect of all of this, and so
(08:53):
from there I ended up going to the Draft Network
very briefly and as a NAT, trying to get my
foot into the door into that kind of a national
role in From there, actually Fox Sports poached me. They
reached out to me and they had they were forming
this new staff of division writers and asked me if
i'd be interested, and it was a chance to, like
(09:15):
I said, go home and cover the teams that I
grew up watching. So it's been an absolutely crazy ride,
but I really enjoy again, the relationship aspect of it.
I don't think that's something that I realized at nine
years old was such a wonderful thing about this job.
But that's what I enjoyed the most. I love getting
to know players and coaches and people around this industry.
(09:37):
I think they all have just really interesting stories to tell,
and I want to tell them.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You know, you mentioned you were with the Bucks for
six years, So what was that kind of transition like,
from you know, a team to a network.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, it's been I'm still kind of navigating it, quite honestly,
because I'm now in a situation where I'm not able
to be at these teams all the time. So I've
gone from one extreme to another. I think I took
for granted the fact that being part of a team
means that people inherently trust you and you get these
relationships kind of without having to try because you're around
(10:11):
all the time. I mean, I can't tell you enough
what Bruce Arians and his staff did for me as
far as bring me into the fold. I was at
every single practice for the entirety of practice, despite the
fact that you can't report on most of practice. It
was just about being there and learning and making sure
that I understood what they were trying to do because
(10:33):
I wanted to be able to honestly to protect them
in a lot of ways. And when I would hear
people talk about what went wrong or whatever, it was
easy for me to be like, I know that you
think that corner got meat, but guess what he was
trying to pass off to the safety over top of him.
The safety wasn't there, and it kind of explaining how
these things can break down. I think protects guys from
(10:54):
some criticism and so not having that trust going to
covering four different teams where I can't be there all
the time. I mean a lot of these guys don't
know my face, and a lot of these guys don't know,
you know, my background, especially and how much I understand
their point of view. So that's been a challenge, but
(11:15):
it's been really great to again broaden my network, and
I'm still trying to figure out exactly the best way
to do it. I'm trying to figure out I'm not
to get four fan bases to hate me all the time.
I try to stay positive about every single team unless
it's not warranted, because I think I've been probably pretty
critical of the Bears. But but it's it's funny because
(11:37):
I'll say something nice about one team and then the
other three teams fans come at me and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
My gosh, just trying to do my job.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Only so much you can.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Do there, Yeah, I know. So I'm just you know,
you learn to have a really thick skin in this
industry and not take to heart what people say on
Twitter behind.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
The screen seriously, last, but certainly not at least here, Carmen.
You know, I just like to finish off these episodes
by inspiring the younger generation.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
So what's the biggest piece of advice that you'd give.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Or that you've received for you know, someone looking to
make the next step in their career.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, I always struggle with this question. For as many
times as I'm sure you've gotten asked it, I've gotten
asked it. I never have a great answer. And I
remember looking for that job and looking for that break,
and just wanting a roadmap and someone to tell me,
you know, damn do this and this will happen, and
that just unfortunately that's not the reality of the industry,
(12:32):
and that's not something anybody wants to hear. But the
flip side of that is you kind of get to
make your own way and there's not a wrong way
to do this, and so I think saying yes to
absolutely everything that you can it's something that I still
take with me now. It's probably why I'm so hectic
and busy and traveling and whatever it is, because I
can't say no. But it opens Even if the opportunity
(12:54):
doesn't seem like it's what you want it to be
or where it's you know that it's going to get
you to where you want to go. You honestly just
never know. You could make a friend, you could make
a connection at that that leads you somewhere else. All
of my jobs have come because I knew someone, and
so I just think saying yes to everything that you
possibly can is probably the best piece of advice because
(13:17):
there isn't a roadmap to this industry at all. Unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Oh that's great advice. You said, you never know what
to say.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Well, Garman.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I truly can't thank you enough for taking the time
today and to be on this podcast with me.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Thank you so much for thinking of me and for
having me anytimes it and good luck this weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Little do It for today's episode of.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
The Snap Broncos Country. Thanks so much for tuning in,
and thank you again to Carmen and for joining this show.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Beat you right back here on the Broncos podcast network
and YouTube next week for another episode.
Hey to score this sudden. Hey, this is Tim Patrick.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Are you listening to The Snap with Sidney Jones on
Broncos Podcast Network?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Here?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
What's the Broncos Country?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome back to the Broncos Podcast Network and YouTube for
the latest.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Episode of The Snap. As always, from your.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Host is Sidney Jones and the Broncos are on the
road again this weekend and we'll look to grab their
first win of the season as they're said to face
the Chicago Bears on Sunday. So joining me for this
week's episode of The Snap is a Fox Sports NFC
North reporter Carmen Vites. Hallie, Carmen, thanks for joining the
show today.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Thanks so much for having me siin. I'm excited to be.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Here, excited to have you. How are you doing? How
are things going good?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
All things considered, I get to cover an entire division,
so I get to take the good with the bad.
And it happens to be that the Bears are kind
of on the bad end of names right now. So
it's hectic in Chicagoland right now, and there's desperation permeating
throughout the city. But I think that's probably, uh, that's
probably there's probably similar sentiment there in Denver.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Week four is quickly approaching here, so let's dive into
this matchup. I know both teams are heading into Sunday's
game winless. You know, both teams are coming off pretty
tough losses the past week.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So I guess what just intrigues you about this matchup.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's gonna be who wants it more, who's more desperate
at this point. I mean, it's not a sexy storyline
by any stretch of the imagination, but both of these
fan bases are desperate for a win. And I think
that from the Broncos perspective, losing the way they did
last week to the Dolphins, I mean, that was the
talk of the NFL. But the Bears lost not quite
(01:32):
as badly, but in the same way that maybe the
score didn't reflect that they nothing went right. There was
no glimmer of hope. There was nothing that you could
kind of latch onto and say, Okay, this is good.
Let's build off of this that hasn't existed in Chicago
for the first three weeks of the season, and so
I think that that's what Bears fans need to see.
That's what the Bears coaching staff and players need to
(01:54):
see is just something to go right. And I don't
know if that's the sentiment necessarily in Denver, but I
know both of these teams are desperate, and so you're
gonna see whose desperation wins out.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, I know it seems like injuries have kind of
been mounting up there for the Bears, specifically in the secondary.
So how do you think Russell Wilson in company will
fair gon up against this Bears defense.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think this is a get right game for Russell Wilson.
I think you know, he's a guy, he's a very
smart quarterback. He knows exactly what he's looking at. He's
been in this league forever. There's nothing he hasn't seen.
So I think he's going to be able to take
advantage of some of these miscues and missteps and miscommunications
that we're seeing from the Bear's defense. And quite frankly,
that's inexcusable when you have a defensive head coach who
(02:38):
is now calling the plays. The Bears DC Allan Williams
resigned just last week and now this is Eberflus's defense.
It was before, but it is now and he's calling
these plays. So you need to figure out. I think
their coverage is just really stressed because they're not getting
any pressure up front whatsoever that front for and Matti
Verflus came out today and said, we need to get
(03:01):
pressure with four. We're going to still keep sending four,
and I think I thought that was a little weird
coming from a defensive coordinator to admit to the fact
that he's not probably going to blitz a lot. Of course,
we know the blitzing doesn't necessarily mean pressure. You can
get pressure with four. I'm just not sure the Bears
have those guys. So I think that Russell Wilson is
going to have time in the pocket, and I think
he's going to be able to pick apart this defensive secondary, which,
(03:23):
like you mentioned, has injuries and also just has a
ton of miscommunication and miscues along the way.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, looking on at the weapons on both teams here,
what do you think will really be.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
The matchup to watch this weekend?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think a lot of it has to do with
the trenches. I mean, that's kind of my calling card
as a person, as a reporter, As a journalist, I
pay special attention to both sides of the line of
scrimmage just because I feel like everything starts and ends there,
and like I said, the Bears are struggling to get pressure.
And if they and that's a good offensive line that
Russell Wilson has, I think it's a little bit underrated,
(03:58):
and it's they haven't light up necessarily either to I
think their potential. So if they can protect him against
an anemic pass rush that the Bears have, I think
they're going to be really they're going to be better off.
And then consequently, the Bears offensive line has also been
riddled with injury that's been shuffling. Despite the fact they
thought they were going to come into this season with
(04:19):
some continuity, injuries prevented that, and they're still trying to
figure things out and protect Fields. I think that they're
doing a better job protecting him than most people think.
I think a lot of it is Fields kind of
not trusting it, bailing out when he doesn't necessarily need to,
not seeing guys get opened down the field half the time,
I think the start running the wrong routes. But if
that Denver defensive front can get to them, that's going
(04:42):
to be It's going to make Justin Field's day really hard.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Last one about the match up here for you, Carmen,
you know, I know here in Denver, head coach on
pay and he's talked a lot this week about improving
the attention to details at practice and that really you
can't ignore these losses, but you still have to pick
yourself up, you still.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Have to get ready for the next week.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So what's just been the message over there in Chicago,
what's the focus for this Bears team as they head
into this week?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
It's much of the same. Maddie keeps stressing details, and
he was talking about microing it down to each individual
player and making sure that each individual player knows what
they're supposed to be doing and make sure they're paying
special attention to the details. Maddie would Post also said
that he believes the Bears are close and that's what
(05:24):
he's seeing. I don't know if that's optimism. I don't
know if that's you know, trying to instill belief in
a locker room that is being tested incredibly so right now.
So I think that it comes down to a communication,
attention to detail. That's kind of all the things that
these guys are stressing, and just continuing to believe in
(05:45):
one another, because that's what they have to fall back
on through this incredible adversity that the Bears are singing.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Right well, Karmen.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
As many of my listeners know here on the staff,
one of my main goals is to highlight women's impact
in and around the NFL. So I want to switch
gears for the last few minutes of this episode here,
you know, just to start.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
What is your role with Fox Sports really entail?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It entails kind of having a pulse on four different teams.
I covered the entire division in the NFC North. I'm
lucky enough to have grown up in that division, although
it was the NFC Central when I was growing up.
I grew up outside Chicago, grew up a Bears fan.
These were the teams that I paid special attention to
my entire life, so I had the benefit of that.
But it's pretty difficult to try and be in four
(06:29):
places at once. Obviously that's not something that's physically possible.
It should work, but it entails a lot of travel,
and it just entails a lot of talk about attention
to detail, you know, listening back to all of these
press conferences. I watched the as soon as I can
get my hands on the all twenty two of these games.
That's kind of what I'm watching for. I'm watching these
(06:51):
games multiple times every week, trying to get a feel
for what happened in each of them and what the
storylines are when it comes to all these teams. But
most importantly, I think it's also about the relationships that
I've built within each market and each city, whether that's
within the team itself, on coaches and players, or even
if it's media members that are there every day. I
(07:12):
lean a lot on other people, and I'm really grateful
to have the relationships that I do, because I wouldn't
be able to do my job without them.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And this is your second year with Fox Sports, right
it is, So what did you kind of your path
look like to land this role here.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I actually wanted to be a sports writer starting at
the age of nine. Wow, I've been very singularly focused
my entire life. Amazing. I was watching. My dad grew
up in Philadelphia, so he's him and his family are
huge Eles fans, Like if you've ever seen Silver Linings playbook,
that's yes, gosh, chew a tea. And so I remember
(07:49):
watching games with my dad and my uncles and my
cousins and noticing people on the sidelines that weren't players
or coaches and asking him, you know, who are those people?
And my dad told me, you know, there's can do
a ton of things for a team. And at that
point I had already been interested in writing as a child,
and he said, you can write stories about your favorite
football team. And I was like, oh, really, so that's
(08:10):
what I decided I wanted to do is I wanted
to write stories about my favorite football team. And that
took me after college. I went to journalism school, I
did my masters at Northwestern, and then it took me
to the Buccaneers, where I did what you did what
you do a little more emphasis on writing. But I
was a staff writer and team reporter for the Buccaneers
for six years and that really kind of gave me
(08:33):
the foundation for the relationships I started to build and
how to really approach covering a team, because it's different
when you're on a team side. You get the benefit
of really being in it with the guys. And that's
an experience that I will always treasure and it's something
I try to take with me because it helped me
see the human aspect of all of this, and so
(08:53):
from there I ended up going to the Draft Network
very briefly and as a NAT, trying to get my
foot into the door into that kind of a national
role in From there, actually Fox Sports poached me. They
reached out to me and they had they were forming
this new staff of division writers and asked me if
i'd be interested, and it was a chance to, like
(09:15):
I said, go home and cover the teams that I
grew up watching. So it's been an absolutely crazy ride,
but I really enjoy again, the relationship aspect of it.
I don't think that's something that I realized at nine
years old was such a wonderful thing about this job.
But that's what I enjoyed the most. I love getting
to know players and coaches and people around this industry.
(09:37):
I think they all have just really interesting stories to tell,
and I want to tell them.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You know, you mentioned you were with the Bucks for
six years, So what was that kind of transition like,
from you know, a team to a network.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, it's been I'm still kind of navigating it, quite honestly,
because I'm now in a situation where I'm not able
to be at these teams all the time. So I've
gone from one extreme to another. I think I took
for granted the fact that being part of a team
means that people inherently trust you and you get these
relationships kind of without having to try because you're around
(10:11):
all the time. I mean, I can't tell you enough
what Bruce Arians and his staff did for me as
far as bring me into the fold. I was at
every single practice for the entirety of practice, despite the
fact that you can't report on most of practice. It
was just about being there and learning and making sure
that I understood what they were trying to do because
(10:33):
I wanted to be able to honestly to protect them
in a lot of ways. And when I would hear
people talk about what went wrong or whatever, it was
easy for me to be like, I know that you
think that corner got meat, but guess what he was
trying to pass off to the safety over top of him.
The safety wasn't there, and it kind of explaining how
these things can break down. I think protects guys from
(10:54):
some criticism and so not having that trust going to
covering four different teams where I can't be there all
the time. I mean a lot of these guys don't
know my face, and a lot of these guys don't know,
you know, my background, especially and how much I understand
their point of view. So that's been a challenge, but
(11:15):
it's been really great to again broaden my network, and
I'm still trying to figure out exactly the best way
to do it. I'm trying to figure out I'm not
to get four fan bases to hate me all the time.
I try to stay positive about every single team unless
it's not warranted, because I think I've been probably pretty
critical of the Bears. But but it's it's funny because
(11:37):
I'll say something nice about one team and then the
other three teams fans come at me and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
My gosh, just trying to do my job.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Only so much you can.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Do there, Yeah, I know. So I'm just you know,
you learn to have a really thick skin in this
industry and not take to heart what people say on
Twitter behind.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
The screen seriously, last, but certainly not at least here, Carmen.
You know, I just like to finish off these episodes
by inspiring the younger generation.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
So what's the biggest piece of advice that you'd give.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Or that you've received for you know, someone looking to
make the next step in their career.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, I always struggle with this question. For as many
times as I'm sure you've gotten asked it, I've gotten
asked it. I never have a great answer. And I
remember looking for that job and looking for that break,
and just wanting a roadmap and someone to tell me,
you know, damn do this and this will happen, and
that just unfortunately that's not the reality of the industry,
(12:32):
and that's not something anybody wants to hear. But the
flip side of that is you kind of get to
make your own way and there's not a wrong way
to do this, and so I think saying yes to
absolutely everything that you can it's something that I still
take with me now. It's probably why I'm so hectic
and busy and traveling and whatever it is, because I
can't say no. But it opens Even if the opportunity
(12:54):
doesn't seem like it's what you want it to be
or where it's you know that it's going to get
you to where you want to go. You honestly just
never know. You could make a friend, you could make
a connection at that that leads you somewhere else. All
of my jobs have come because I knew someone, and
so I just think saying yes to everything that you
possibly can is probably the best piece of advice because
(13:17):
there isn't a roadmap to this industry at all. Unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Oh that's great advice. You said, you never know what
to say.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Well, Garman.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I truly can't thank you enough for taking the time
today and to be on this podcast with me.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Thank you so much for thinking of me and for
having me anytimes it and good luck this weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Little do It for today's episode of.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
The Snap Broncos Country. Thanks so much for tuning in,
and thank you again to Carmen and for joining this show.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Beat you right back here on the Broncos podcast network
and YouTube next week for another episode.
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