October 22, 2025 • 35 mins
Welcome back to The Vikings Tailgate - Presented by Ticketmaster - The official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings. Chad Daniels and Cy Amundson are gearing up for a Vikings Thursday night matchup against the "Bolts" at Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles. Chad and Cy discuss the legend of Chargers Quarterback Dan Fouts, Adrian Peterson's record setting 296-yard game, Viking "Goats" in their era, why playing against pro athletes can make you contemplate your life, and Chad explains why yelling at the stadium is better than at home. All of this and more is in Episode 60 of The Vikings Tailgate - Presented by Ticketmaster - The official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings.
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Where come Oban Turm here?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Tailgate.
I'm your host, Cy Amandsen. Across from me my co host,
the Great Chad Daniel. It's a short week, Chatty Daddy,
you had a week off. We let Blake be here
never again because the game did not go the way
we wanted. Never again.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I can't believe the one game you gave to somebody
else was the Eagles. I got plenty of good Eagles stuff.
I used to be a fan because of crisscross.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I just the audience likes Blake. He's been on it
a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That is not true.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't know who when he comes on. So I'm
with you, he's gone.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, he's a jinx.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Banish him. Normally, we don't record so quickly after the
last game because we're a preview show in theory. But
short week, brother man, we can turn around all that
negativity into some positivity on Thursday night football against the Chargers.
And I was, I was getting ready for this show,
(01:50):
and we have a friend who just knows too many
sports facts to want to hang out with him a lot,
you know. Yeah, And I was just texting about the
upcoming game and he sent me and so I can't
guarantee this is true. You know, you and I aren't
big research guys. But that throughout their history, not counting Thanksgiving,
(02:14):
the Vikings are zero to six in Thursday night road games.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, they have not.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
They have not won a road game on Thursday night
in decades.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I don't know that they've been doing Thursday night football
for decades. That's just the dumb way he phrased the text. Sure,
he tried to put me in a sour mood before
I came to try to be in a positive mood
to fix how much of a sour mood I am
because we're recording so close to a loss.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, I'm going to tell you something right now. Why
don't you tell him? Text him back immediately and say
how does one and six look? Because that's where we're at,
that's where we're headed.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah you know, Oh okay. I thought you were talking
about his favorite team, which I think that's their record,
so that burn you were being positive. I thought you
were taking a shot at him and knew who I
was talking about, because there's clearly one friend we have
who does stupid stuff like this. I have a question
before we get in, do the matchup history and the
(03:11):
current matchup. I don't have a lot of beef with
the Chargers, cool colors, we don't have any horrific history
against them.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I'm gonna tell you something. I look great, and I
look great and powder blue. I don't have any because
of the Chargers in case we play them, but I
want you to know it makes my eyes pop.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's they used to be in San Diego, one of
the great American cities. Not a lot to hate but
I find it so interesting that a team, you know,
so I believe the Clippers did this as well. You
move from San Diego to La which is literally you
can take the PCH. That's a four hour on the
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PCH to get there. Now we lose the Dallas the
North Stars to Dallas, they become the Dallas Stars. My
question for you is if we lost a team and
they moved like, it's hard because they are Minnesota. It's
the state, and these are cities out there. So let's
(04:10):
say the Stars had moved and become the Sioux Falls
Stars or the South Dakota Stars, so we're talking four
hours away, or for you, the Fargo Stars.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Come on, they Fargo Stars, because now you gotta hear
everybody go, oh, look, the Fargo Stars are home today.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I guess the question I'm asking is if you're a
lifelong Charger fan and they move up to Los Angeles,
are you bitter about that and you walk away because
you're not getting a team back. I don't think they're
putting another I don't want to guarantee it. I'm not
in those meetings, but I don't know that there's gonna
be another one there. So do you just become bitter,
find another team, or stop being a fan of the league,
(04:47):
or do you follow that team to LA and be
okay with the drive?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Uh? Yeah, here's the thing though, the drive to LA
is different from the drive to Sioux Falls or Fargo.
I mean, you're gonna see nine cars going either way,
and so I don't know. It would be nice. It
would be nice to send the team to Fargo just
for a year, so Minnesotans could go over to North
Dakota and ruin all their roads and not pay taxes.
(05:13):
I think that would be great. But instead we host
the team, so we must deal with it, and that's fine.
I think that I think I would still be a fan. Yeah,
I think, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And Leicester was so did you ever did you ever
consider that when the Stars last?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
No? Because here's I was just gonna bring this up.
This is the problem with what Norm Green did. It
was so calculated and so mischievous that he took the
North Stars emblem away. They became the Minnesota Stars, and
then he moved them, and then they became the Lone Stars.
And now that the Stars get so I was just like,
(05:49):
you know, listen, Norm Green, I don't have a lot
of great things to say about him, and this is
a family show, so let's move on.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
When I think Chargers and Vikings, yeah, Chadley, I think
two things. It's crazy that're from the same game.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
One of them, Oh okay, you know where I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Going already, one of my most absurd happenings. I'm being dramatic,
but I would say in NFL history the fact, so
you it's two thousand and seven, right week nine, Vikings
Chargers end of the first half. Kicking a fifty seven
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yard field goal, Antonio Cramarti brings one hundred and nine
yard missed field goal all the way back. At the time,
it is the longest scoring play in NFL history. The
only way that it could be more is if you
Chris Carter Ballerina toes your way to like an extended
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two extra yards through the back of the end zone
and that's where you catch the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And then that's just semantics, but almost that's almost what
he did. It's it's almost nine point nine because he towed,
but he didn't he so so you know, we've seen
great receivers from the Viking. They you know, they have
their toes on the line. Fully extended, make the catch,
but that's going sideways on the sideline. Cromarty jumped back
and caught this thing. It was almost like he robbed
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a home run. He brought it back. He jumped up,
caught the ball which was technically out of the back
of the end zone, brought it back in, and then
went from zero to sixty before he was out of
the end zone. That dude can move. And this is
I think it was long.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Will the kite that might have been long.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, yeah, so fifty seven So I know where I
know we look forward, we don't look backwards. I'm gonna
tell you some Will Reiker during the Eagles game made
a fifty nine yard field goal and I was in
section one thirty six, which is to the right of
the goalpost. This thing banged the net. It was so
big it would have gone in from seventy at least
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seventy yards. It was such a huge kick. And it's uh, so,
I know we've had some kicking stuff like this where
fifty seven doesn't quite get there. Not anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Baby, What do you do you think that is? Are
we just at the point where, like from an evolution standpoint,
where back in the day, no one wanted to be
a kicker, and then everybody's like, why you know, kickers
make a lot of money and they get to be
in the NFL and it's cool, and like at some
point kicking got cool, and now it's a really competitive
universe because we are at the point where you go, yeah,
(08:25):
line up to kick it from fifty nine to sixty.
It's not even really a question, right, which it wasn't
more than a decade or two ago that you're like,
if this is fifty seven, it might fall short.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Exactly. Yeah. I think what happened was a lot of
people saw Happy Gilmour two with the hip surgery that
they did, and I think a lot of these kickers
are doing that now. And obviously that's complete nonsense. So
don't write in.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
The uh, that would be a crazy game. That would
be a crazy happening in and of itself, right. But
but then our boy goes he goes smash zoid on
the NFL Russian record two ninety six still bums me
out that he didn't get to three hundred, just because
(09:10):
that's a nice round number. But I remember, I remember
as it was happening, thinking, you know, the conversation about
goats and who's the greatest and all this stuff. I
want to tell you why Jordan is better than Lebron.
That's what I'm I enjoy that. I think it's really
hard to do in football, you know, having the goat
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conversation because of the specialized positions and how different they
are versus basketball, where it's a smooth, free flowing game
where you can do a lot of different things even
though there are different positions. But the thing that I
remember about Ap is going I don't during that game
and then the other time I remember it was during
that stretch that year that he got the two thousand yards,
(09:53):
that like those last seven to nine games where they
were putting all those people in the box and he
was just going and going and going, thinking I don't
know that this is the greatest running back of all time,
but in the moment that day that he went for
two ninety six, that that that stretch of games, I
think you take that guy against the best version of
(10:14):
every other guy, the Peyton's, the Jim Brown's the same,
and I'm not sure any of them are better than him.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Like, yeah, I mean Adrian Peterson, he could bounce around
a little Barry Sanders with the footwork, but he was
a he was a sprinter level runner that could that
hit people like a linebacker. I mean, it really was
unbelievable where guys were like, you know what, I'm gonna
try to wrap up his legs, but then he'd lift
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his knees up a little higher and you'd see their
shoulders separate and they'd be laying on the ground. I mean,
he was unbelievable. You know, it is hard to go
who is the greatest running back ever, because then you
have to throw in the argument of who in the
same season has had a.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You're going to do the tell you doing the herschel
Walker thing? Is this thing where you have to shoehorn
in her walker.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
A ninety yard run from scrimmage, a ninety yard reception
from scrimmage, and a ninety plus yard kickoff slash punt return. No, no, no, no, no,
of course it's walk baby.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I just think it's I think he was that sort
of and we've seen we've had this twice in my
fandom career where we've had a guy on our team that,
in a moment, like the peak moment of their career
might have been the better peak or the best peak
(11:30):
moment that anybody like obviously Jared, Jerry Rice, but Moss
at the peak of being Randy Moss. You go one
game guy at their peak, I don't know. And that's
that's what AP looked like. In that San Diego game.
You're like, well, what the hell are we doing? How
does a guy rip off like this? It was absolutely absurd.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, you ask yourself, who do I take? Who's best
game do I take? And he is way up.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I remember this. I remember the far year there was
a game where I think it was against the Ravens
where he broke loose and he was running up the
left sideline. Jay might remember this and he can tell
me what the actual game was, but I believe it
was the Ravens. It might have been the Steelers. But
(12:17):
he broke up the sideline and he trucked a defensive
back up near the sideline and let out this like
scream that You're like, was the most absurd thing I've
ever heard. It was one of the like, oh, no, one,
He truly looks like a man amongst little children running
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them over and screaming.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I mean, he looks like the mascots against the third graders.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Look where his Look where his knees are when he's running.
It's neck breaking height. It truly is. And I remember think.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Jay is the King immediately messages texts me Adrian Peterson
versus William Gay on the Steelers. So I thought Ravens
it was it was Steelers.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Nice. Yeah. Ap was one of those guys where even
if you even if the team lost, you still go
you leave your jersey on and go out to pick
up your dinner because you go, yeah, but we still
got all day. We still got AP.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
We still got a p the the Chargers. In addition
to being from a place that I think would be
great to live originally, they also had, like there's a
couple of things you already mentioned. There's three things basically
that I'm not going to rail on here. You got
the powder blue unis all time.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Let's talk about Dan Fouts, who I think a young
like retired but now in the media, Dan Fouts in
today's day and age with YouTube channels and guys being insane, like, uh,
you take that in his post career prime Dan Fouts
and throw that fella out into days. I think that
(13:58):
guy's an all timer. I think he is an absolute
all timer.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Also, he might he actually might get written in for
congressman somewhere. Yeah, the first person to ever actually get
written in. I don't know if that's true, but it
has to be close.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
The he in The water Boy. God damn, he's funny
in the water Boy though, the line the water Boy
just needed some water. It's I as a anytime I
can shoehorn Sandler into one of our conversations. Uh, it's
a no brainer for me. But so I am. I
am a very big Dan Fouts guy. But and I
(14:36):
gotta tell you, I do think it's probably I like announcers,
real announcers in movies. You know Dan Patrick's. I know
he's not an announcer, but he's a radio personality. He's been
in some stuff. I don't think anybody's ever gonna touch though,
Alan Michaelson, Oh, who are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I was gonna say, Bob Yuker in Uh, oh.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
No, that's right, Bob Youuker. It's not even close. Bob Yuker,
What am I talking about? I was going in a
different direction. I'm an idiot. Bob Buker in major League
is he He's unbelievable, King of Kings. Fun. This has
nothing to do with sports, but if you're a fan
of things that are fun to watch, watch Norm McDonald
tell David Letterman his Bob Bucher story. It's on YouTube.
(15:15):
You're welcome, but don't wait till our show's over. Listen
and then go do it. You could also pause, but
you know we're big. Take us start to finish, baby,
We're start to finish, guys. I was gonna say al
Michaels in Basketball, which was a big movie during my childhood. Yeah,
because you can just tell. I think he signed up
(15:37):
and I'm I love al Michaels. He's so good, dude.
He's all these iconic calls. He was incredible in like
the Pete Rose documentary. He's just great. And I think
on Basketball, and I have no proof of this, but
just watching it, I have to imagine he showed up
and was like, what am I doing?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
What is this movie like?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Not fully understanding what he'd gotten himself into.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Al Michaels was calling a game with Kirk kurb Street
and he kept making these funny burns and then I
don't think Kirk was getting him, so he would explain
them and then finally Al goes okay, like that, it
was awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
The third the third, Big San Diego Like for me,
where I'm gonna give him a lot of credit is
I'm a basketball guy and I don't know that he
was the first guy. Jay, you can help us out
again here, But I have to believe in the modern
NFL one of the first guys who like he just
didn't play college football. He was a college basketball player,
Antonio Gates. So he plays at Kent State and then goes, well,
(16:41):
I'm gonna play pro football, and not only does it
becomes a Hall of Famer man young side, the basketball
player loved that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Remember when, like a football guy would come out of
a two a day practice and you like somehow had
a pickup game going outside the school because that's where
the courts were, and he was like, do you guys
mind if I jump in? And then he just started dunking,
and you go, that's incredible. Now let's reverse it and
take it to the professional level. I mean, get out
(17:11):
of here. How do you even do that? Because your body.
The reason those guys can take hits in the NFL
is because they took them in college, and before that,
they took them in high school, and before that they
took them in middle school. Your body has to adjust
to getting hit like that. And he was like, huh,
I'll do it. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And he's not a wide receiver, right tight ends get hit.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, And he's coming from a sport where if you
get hit on the wrist you get to shoot two
free throws because it's cheating.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Go I you know I don't need all that attitude.
No one's down, no one's taking shots at hockey.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
No one can take shots at hockey.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Out of here, or I'll tell you who can't. Let's
not do it. Okay, but you set me up. I
guess who can't take shots?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Play nice the Was.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
There a moment for you? Was it? Do you have
like I have, like a pathetic age where you're like,
I don't think I'm gonna I don't think I'm gonna
go pro because I I remember being in my early twenties,
having never played football and having a bet with someone
about how whether or not I could kick a field
goal from a certain length. And I'd never tried to
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kick a field goal, and there was a part of
me in the back of my head was like, well,
this is how it starts. I'm gonna go out there,
I'm gonna knock this one through. I'm gonna realize God damn,
I didn't realize I could kick a football. I'm gonna
put a little work in and I'm gonna wind up
in camp. And I didn't, like really believe it, but
I didn't think it was impossible. And so when I
went out and I struggled very poorly, I had the
(18:37):
moment where I was like, this is the end of
my pro hopes in every sport available. I think I
was holding onto bowling a little bit in the back
of my head because I think you could probably get
good at that at a later age. But did you
you're a psycho? What at what point did you let
go of the Vince Papali invincible? Like you had to
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have thought if somebody he's me playing pond hockey, Like
what age?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'm going to tell you right now, I'm fifty years
old and I still think I could make the Olympics
in curling. That's no kidding. I invite me to your league, listeners,
invite me to your league, and I'll show you.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I mean I just think there's this thing. Jared Allen
is on a high level curling team. I think you'd
have to find a sport. Guys like us need to
find a sport where guys who are athletes don't want
to spend their time. And I don't think they exist anymore.
I think with they've all been so dude. Brad Johnson,
the former quarterback of the Vikings, qualified for the Papa
(19:38):
Shot National Championship oldest guy in the Papa Shot National Championships,
which is last year. Dude, Ethan and I my nephew
watched a video. Dude, You're like, oh, that's a professional
athlete shooting Papa shot. I thought I was good at
Papa shot. I am not good at Papa shot. This
dude is a professional. So that's the thing. Jared Allen
doing curling. Brad Johnson, when Papa shot, why don't you
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just leave the ping pong and the BATCHI ball to
all us noormies. Yeah, some of us can live out
our dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I gotta tell you. In the comedy world, I'm undefeated
in Papa shot, and that's just a fact. I don't
want to argue. I don't want to sit here and
show you my record. But going to bars after shows
with a Papa shot, I cannot be beaten. And then
Washington d C Kittie Corner. It's an underground billiards hall
has a Papa shot Kitty Corner from the Washington DC
(20:27):
improv and I go in and there is a guy
that is maybe up to my chest and he is
using both hands, both hands to just flick flick, flick,
flick flick. It looks like he's trying to get rain
off of his wrists. And he beat me by more
than double and it was the craziest thing in the world.
(20:49):
So I handed him my Crisp one hundred dollars bill
that I had bet, and uh not great. I found
out that I'm only good against comedians who suck at
lots of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Jay just said tennis players playing pickleball is pretty next level.
Uh sure, yeah there is. That's a weird one. The
pickleball thing is a weird one for me because I
get so worried watching middle aged people play pickleball because
I don't think they realize how close they are to
tumbling every time they play. But that's not what this
show is about, right.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
The show is about realizing that you and I have
another show whose producer doesn't do anything, and it's so
great to have someone in the book sending us information
and actually caring.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
It's great. What a change for the two of us.
The matchup this week, Chad our opportunity to get right
if you will. I find it to be an interesting one,
and I would say leading that was what I going
(21:51):
into last week thought to be a pretty interesting red
zone matchup. Okay, now, did I anticipate we would go
one for six in the zone this weekend and therefore
change a lot of the rankings and things that I
thought were interesting going into this Thursday night game? I
did not. But I think. I think. I think because
when you have a next level coach, right, and a
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guy who takes a lot of pride in his play
designing and his execution there, this isn't one of those
things where this team's gonna go one for six in
the red zone and come out and go one for
six next week. So I think it's gonna be tuned up.
I think there's gonna be some regression, some positive regression here,
because going into the Eagles game, the Vikings offense was
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sixty six point seven per TD rate in the red zone.
Chargers defense second best in the league forty two point
nine percent. Okay, and I thought that to be one
of the premier matchups. And I think now having a
little chip on our shoulder gives us a little juice.
I just whatever your second best defense is, I think
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in the set, well, let me let me, let me
continue my speech, because what I am tired of? Can
I give you what I'm tired of?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Why do you ask me things you're gonna do anyways,
just do it.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
What I'm tired of. And I don't care play anybody wherever, however,
But as a fan and a complainer, yeah, we keep
running into these teams in desperate situations. Sure the Falcons
get housed or excuse me, they lose that really tough
game to open the year with everybody watching. Then we
gotta get them on Sunday night. They're desperate, right, the Eagles,
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the world champions, lose two in a row, and then
we gotta get them. And oh, by the way, even
though we have a bye, they've got they had a
Thursday night game, right, a desperate team with extra time
that cuts off our extra time. And now the Chargers,
who everybody thought was one of the they thought they
were one of the best teams in the league. They're
not playing well, they get smacked and and we're going
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to their house and they got something to prove. I'm
tired of the chips on the shoulders, but I think
our performance in the red zone can mitigate that, because
I think you take the coach, you think you take
a players, and how proud they all are of how
they execute, and I think we're gonna punch that second
place ranking right in the face.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I like where your head's at. I'm going to tell
you that watching the Vikings go one for six in
the red zone made me realize something being at live
games is that I can yell as loud as I want,
and no one can yell at me for ruining their
experience because I was doing some screaming, and because you
know that when I yell at home at the TV,
(24:31):
someone that lives with me gets upset about that, even
though she can go full panic when she opens the
screen door and a bunch of bugs come in the
house and I think there's a murderer about to take
her out. That's fine. We don't have to get into that.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
What I'm saying, Can I ask you a question about
being there? Yeah, my dad took me to When I
was a kid, we didn't go to a lot of games.
One of the only things we ever did is we
went to a Twins game and it was actually the
last game of the strike season and it was the
last game of Kent Herbeck's career. Wow, and so Kent
(25:05):
Herbeck And maybe I just remember this as a kid,
but I don't think so. I think it's what happened.
He got up multiple times with multiple people on base,
if not the base is loaded, and every time he
jacked one like put it deep right to the warning track.
This place he goes up, this place goes nuts. Big
(25:27):
moment coming hits the ball, everybody goes crazy. And then
and it was like four four moments of that throughout
the game. Now, excellent end. The last out to win
the game, somebody did a line drive out of bounds
down the first baseline and he did at that age,
that year old Herbeck diving snag. Yeah, right to catch it. Excellent,
(25:52):
excellent moment.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And for you baseball fans, we know it's not out
of bounds, it's foul. Territory, But that's fine, keep going.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Did you was there? Did you have that vibe because
them getting like because I think they could have been
should have won that game. I think they were the
better team. I know nobody likes to use that language,
but I thought they were a very good team ready
to win that game. Was there a vibe where everybody
was like, oh my gosh, here it goes, here, it goes,
here goes Was there just like this pent.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Up I will tell you all day. Yeah. After the
third field goal, it was a lot of mumbling, the
Vikings cheer song, right, it was a lot of like,
it was a lot of that. But then score a
touchdown and then that Hockinson. Oh it was so close.
(26:39):
I still think it was a catch.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think it was a catch. I don't know. I
don't want to. I don't want to get in the
weeds with the ref who comes on the screen and
tells you what happened from his cozy booth, but I
don't happen to agree with him. The nice thing about
games is you usually get the energy and enthusiasm, and
you don't get all the Minnesota pessimism where you kick
the second ass.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
That's what I was gonna tell you, is that just
Minnesota Sports has this thing where where we almost it
feels like sometimes we don't want it, we want to wallow.
But there was none of that in this game. And
that's what I like about this team. It's like we
talked about Adrian Peterson. We go, wow, we still have
Adrian Peterson. We go, wow, we still have And now
(27:21):
it's a list, it's a list of people. We go,
I still got these guys. Le let's figure it out and.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Let me add something to my whole red zone point here.
They might be good in the red zone, but you
know what I think we're sitting on. You need to
think we're waiting on here. With how well Addison played,
I think I think we're gonna have We keep getting
these moments where we get these chunk plays, these fifteen
Like I think we are so close to having a
game where we go, oh did we just put three forty,
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a forty, a fifty, and a seventy on the board. Like,
I think we are so close to breaking through on
some long explosive passing games, and maybe this is time
to do it. Maybe we skip the zone because that, yeah, Addison,
that's a great idea. The Jordan Addison thing was nuts
on Sunday, and I it's why, despite the record and
despite how disappointing that game was. You know, if I'm
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if I'm being positive sigh, which we need me to be,
if I'm going to stay in a text thread with
you off the show, you know, in our private life
about this team, I would say that for so long
we have seen teams peak at the end of the
season that play really well into the playoffs, regardless of
their start. You know, the Rams have done it, the
Patriots did it for years. I do think this team
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has the makings of one of those teams, as they
get the rest of their guys healthy, as they really
sync together on offense, I think it is sitting there
waiting for them. You got to get this one. You
want to go to four and three, not three and four.
But I do think it's out in front of us
as a as an option.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
And if you want to look at patterns here win loss, win, loss,
win loss. I mean we know what comes next. Pretty Yeah,
you can't look past them, obviously, but talking about the
Addison day of those out routes, there's gonna be a
time where we send Hockinson in the middle, and there
is a just look off to Hawkinson and then that
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out route becomes an out and down and it's it's
gonna be an explosive play.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
It's coming, baby. You know. One other thing that I've
found to be interesting was there's somebody who tracks pace
of play and then categorizes it, and it's basically seconds
per play. And the Chargers have they are twenty nine
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point nine seconds per play, which is considered fast in
the league, and the Vikings are thirty point three, which
is average to fast. So I think depending on how
the game goes early, I think I think you're gonna
get some fast I think you're gonna get some movement.
And I think I think the thing I'm talking about
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where we start getting those shots, we start going, going, going.
I do think there's a possibility that it all comes
together just the way I not just want it to, Chad,
can I tell you the way I need it to?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, But I still can't
get over the fact that when you were crunching those
numbers and figuring that out, did you look up into
the left like the good doctor. What's wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Hey, I'm here's the thing I'm becoming. If I'm going
to get from our friend texted stats that ruin my day,
I'm going to go on a search for stats that
I like. Now, do I know how to put those
into practice on a show and make the two of
us look good?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Absolutely? No way, no way. Somebody else call in with.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
That, But that's not That doesn't mean that we can't
put a little stack icing on our wobbly chocolate cake. Okay,
all right, what do you got for a prediction? What
do you got for a player prediction? What do you
got for a chad prediction? And now I'm surprised that
you're not. I don't know what's going on in your life,
but I had this one pegged. You know, you got
(31:03):
a kid in California. Yeah, you know, we both are
a part of the industry that has a lot of
stuff in California. Hm. The ocean's there, which you love.
I'm somewhat surprised that you are not on the go,
do work, go to the game. See my kid trip
on this one?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, I could see where you're doing that, but I
I'm gonna be out there, see I'm gonna see her
she's actually gonna be here on that night. So we're
gonna we're gonna post up on the couch watch the game,
and she can dream about, uh, dream about that. Watched
The English Teacher with Sean Patton. We're gonna stream that
all the way through. We're gonna binge it. It's called
(31:44):
kids call it binging. So so here here's my prediction. Now,
obviously I said win, lost, win, loss, win, loss, so
you would think my prediction is a big win. But
I'm gonna go very conservative here because old Justi Pooh
is good at throwing the football, So I'm gonna say
Viking reeze.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Can we talk about how much Justin Herbert looks like
your kid? It is? It is?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's wild.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
How often do people tell him or you that I.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Don't know about him, but I've heard it a few times.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, they look very very similar.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Listen, good looking people shout out, I make good looking
human beings.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
It's like if somebody did, like right now, somebody did
a Netflix show about your kid and they had to
cast an actor, they would cast Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah. I don't know that he's an actor, but okay.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
But he's just a bigger you know, often they pick
people who are bigger and older than.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
They Chargers twenty four, and I know that sounds like
a lot. I'm so Minnesota Vikings to sixteen.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
To sixteen to sixteen, So that's a little aggressive, you know.
I think you're being a little aggressive because I'm I'm
a hardball guy. I think he's a very good coach.
So I'm gonna say Chargers seventeen. I think it's gonna
be a little more low scoring. I think it's about
one hundred and twenty four for the Vikings. Who you
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got for a player?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Okay, Well, here's the thing. I'm gonna go three players,
and everybody's I'm.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You're just gonna try to take as many players off
the board. So I can't choose a player.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
No, no, no, because they're all from the same position.
So I don't think you're gonna do it. I'm gonna
take three players.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I'm gonna say they chose all the centers, that the.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Quarterback whisperer is gonna play all three quarterbacks that wants
wishbone formation, and we are gonna see some trick plays
like we have never seen in our lifetime.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
In our lifetime, mine is Justin Jefferson. Okay, it's I
think you're gonna get one of those Justin Jefferson. Oh yeah,
No one's even close to this guy. Like twelve catches,
one hundred and eighty some yards and a couple of touchdowns.
All that film on Addison Hawkinson has come alive. Yeapdude.
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I think that they are going to have to maybe
they say, hey, beat us with Addison and Hockinson and
everybody else. But I think we're in a position where
we're about to have a big Justin Jefferson game.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Of course, I'm you know what, I could say, three touchdowns,
one from each quarterback in the wishbone formation.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
What's your chad prediction?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
My chad prediction is I'm gonna be as loud as
I want during this game because old girlfriend Kelsey Cook's
going to be at the University of Iowa doing stand
up comedy and I don't have to keep my volume
anywhere near normal. I am going to be yelling with positivity.
I am going to be shouting at how poorly I
think commercials are written nowadays. Everything that happens is gonna
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I'm taking it to a thirteen.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I am gonna be watching this game because I'm traveling.
I'm gonna be watching this game shortly after we land
in Charleston, South Carolina. We're I'll be doing stand up weekend,
and my family is using it as a chance to
go on a vacation, and so I will be watching
this game with my dad on a phone for at
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least part of it. So my energy will be right
here because he I love it. He doesn't handle the
chaotic energy. So no matter what happens, I go, it's
gonna be It's gonna be fine. Death, We're gonna the
team is gonna be fine. Everything's great. Death that's gonna
do it for us. Thank you for joining us here
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Where come Oban Turm here?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Tailgate.
I'm your host, Cy Amandsen. Across from me my co host,
the Great Chad Daniel. It's a short week, Chatty Daddy,
you had a week off. We let Blake be here
never again because the game did not go the way
we wanted. Never again.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I can't believe the one game you gave to somebody
else was the Eagles. I got plenty of good Eagles stuff.
I used to be a fan because of crisscross.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I just the audience likes Blake. He's been on it
a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That is not true.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't know who when he comes on. So I'm
with you, he's gone.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, he's a jinx.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Banish him. Normally, we don't record so quickly after the
last game because we're a preview show in theory. But
short week, brother man, we can turn around all that
negativity into some positivity on Thursday night football against the Chargers.
And I was, I was getting ready for this show,
(01:50):
and we have a friend who just knows too many
sports facts to want to hang out with him a lot,
you know. Yeah, And I was just texting about the
upcoming game and he sent me and so I can't
guarantee this is true. You know, you and I aren't
big research guys. But that throughout their history, not counting Thanksgiving,
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the Vikings are zero to six in Thursday night road games.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, they have not.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
They have not won a road game on Thursday night
in decades.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I don't know that they've been doing Thursday night football
for decades. That's just the dumb way he phrased the text. Sure,
he tried to put me in a sour mood before
I came to try to be in a positive mood
to fix how much of a sour mood I am
because we're recording so close to a loss.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, I'm going to tell you something right now. Why
don't you tell him? Text him back immediately and say
how does one and six look? Because that's where we're at,
that's where we're headed.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah you know, Oh okay. I thought you were talking
about his favorite team, which I think that's their record,
so that burn you were being positive. I thought you
were taking a shot at him and knew who I
was talking about, because there's clearly one friend we have
who does stupid stuff like this. I have a question
before we get in, do the matchup history and the
(03:11):
current matchup. I don't have a lot of beef with
the Chargers, cool colors, we don't have any horrific history
against them.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I'm gonna tell you something. I look great, and I
look great and powder blue. I don't have any because
of the Chargers in case we play them, but I
want you to know it makes my eyes pop.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's they used to be in San Diego, one of
the great American cities. Not a lot to hate but
I find it so interesting that a team, you know,
so I believe the Clippers did this as well. You
move from San Diego to La which is literally you
can take the PCH. That's a four hour on the
(03:49):
PCH to get there. Now we lose the Dallas the
North Stars to Dallas, they become the Dallas Stars. My
question for you is if we lost a team and
they moved like, it's hard because they are Minnesota. It's
the state, and these are cities out there. So let's
(04:10):
say the Stars had moved and become the Sioux Falls
Stars or the South Dakota Stars, so we're talking four
hours away, or for you, the Fargo Stars.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Come on, they Fargo Stars, because now you gotta hear
everybody go, oh, look, the Fargo Stars are home today.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I guess the question I'm asking is if you're a
lifelong Charger fan and they move up to Los Angeles,
are you bitter about that and you walk away because
you're not getting a team back. I don't think they're
putting another I don't want to guarantee it. I'm not
in those meetings, but I don't know that there's gonna
be another one there. So do you just become bitter,
find another team, or stop being a fan of the league,
(04:47):
or do you follow that team to LA and be
okay with the drive?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Uh? Yeah, here's the thing though, the drive to LA
is different from the drive to Sioux Falls or Fargo.
I mean, you're gonna see nine cars going either way,
and so I don't know. It would be nice. It
would be nice to send the team to Fargo just
for a year, so Minnesotans could go over to North
Dakota and ruin all their roads and not pay taxes.
(05:13):
I think that would be great. But instead we host
the team, so we must deal with it, and that's fine.
I think that I think I would still be a fan. Yeah,
I think, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And Leicester was so did you ever did you ever
consider that when the Stars last?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
No? Because here's I was just gonna bring this up.
This is the problem with what Norm Green did. It
was so calculated and so mischievous that he took the
North Stars emblem away. They became the Minnesota Stars, and
then he moved them, and then they became the Lone Stars.
And now that the Stars get so I was just like,
(05:49):
you know, listen, Norm Green, I don't have a lot
of great things to say about him, and this is
a family show, so let's move on.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
When I think Chargers and Vikings, yeah, Chadley, I think
two things. It's crazy that're from the same game.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
One of them, Oh okay, you know where I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Going already, one of my most absurd happenings. I'm being dramatic,
but I would say in NFL history the fact, so
you it's two thousand and seven, right week nine, Vikings
Chargers end of the first half. Kicking a fifty seven
(06:27):
yard field goal, Antonio Cramarti brings one hundred and nine
yard missed field goal all the way back. At the time,
it is the longest scoring play in NFL history. The
only way that it could be more is if you
Chris Carter Ballerina toes your way to like an extended
(06:49):
two extra yards through the back of the end zone
and that's where you catch the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And then that's just semantics, but almost that's almost what
he did. It's it's almost nine point nine because he towed,
but he didn't he so so you know, we've seen
great receivers from the Viking. They you know, they have
their toes on the line. Fully extended, make the catch,
but that's going sideways on the sideline. Cromarty jumped back
and caught this thing. It was almost like he robbed
(07:14):
a home run. He brought it back. He jumped up,
caught the ball which was technically out of the back
of the end zone, brought it back in, and then
went from zero to sixty before he was out of
the end zone. That dude can move. And this is
I think it was long.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Will the kite that might have been long.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, yeah, so fifty seven So I know where I
know we look forward, we don't look backwards. I'm gonna
tell you some Will Reiker during the Eagles game made
a fifty nine yard field goal and I was in
section one thirty six, which is to the right of
the goalpost. This thing banged the net. It was so
big it would have gone in from seventy at least
(07:56):
seventy yards. It was such a huge kick. And it's uh, so,
I know we've had some kicking stuff like this where
fifty seven doesn't quite get there. Not anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Baby, What do you do you think that is? Are
we just at the point where, like from an evolution standpoint,
where back in the day, no one wanted to be
a kicker, and then everybody's like, why you know, kickers
make a lot of money and they get to be
in the NFL and it's cool, and like at some
point kicking got cool, and now it's a really competitive
universe because we are at the point where you go, yeah,
(08:25):
line up to kick it from fifty nine to sixty.
It's not even really a question, right, which it wasn't
more than a decade or two ago that you're like,
if this is fifty seven, it might fall short.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Exactly. Yeah. I think what happened was a lot of
people saw Happy Gilmour two with the hip surgery that
they did, and I think a lot of these kickers
are doing that now. And obviously that's complete nonsense. So
don't write in.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
The uh, that would be a crazy game. That would
be a crazy happening in and of itself, right. But
but then our boy goes he goes smash zoid on
the NFL Russian record two ninety six still bums me
out that he didn't get to three hundred, just because
(09:10):
that's a nice round number. But I remember, I remember
as it was happening, thinking, you know, the conversation about
goats and who's the greatest and all this stuff. I
want to tell you why Jordan is better than Lebron.
That's what I'm I enjoy that. I think it's really
hard to do in football, you know, having the goat
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conversation because of the specialized positions and how different they
are versus basketball, where it's a smooth, free flowing game
where you can do a lot of different things even
though there are different positions. But the thing that I
remember about Ap is going I don't during that game
and then the other time I remember it was during
that stretch that year that he got the two thousand yards,
(09:53):
that like those last seven to nine games where they
were putting all those people in the box and he
was just going and going and going, thinking I don't
know that this is the greatest running back of all time,
but in the moment that day that he went for
two ninety six, that that that stretch of games, I
think you take that guy against the best version of
(10:14):
every other guy, the Peyton's, the Jim Brown's the same,
and I'm not sure any of them are better than him.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Like, yeah, I mean Adrian Peterson, he could bounce around
a little Barry Sanders with the footwork, but he was
a he was a sprinter level runner that could that
hit people like a linebacker. I mean, it really was
unbelievable where guys were like, you know what, I'm gonna
try to wrap up his legs, but then he'd lift
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his knees up a little higher and you'd see their
shoulders separate and they'd be laying on the ground. I mean,
he was unbelievable. You know, it is hard to go
who is the greatest running back ever, because then you
have to throw in the argument of who in the
same season has had a.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You're going to do the tell you doing the herschel
Walker thing? Is this thing where you have to shoehorn
in her walker.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
A ninety yard run from scrimmage, a ninety yard reception
from scrimmage, and a ninety plus yard kickoff slash punt return. No, no, no, no, no,
of course it's walk baby.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I just think it's I think he was that sort
of and we've seen we've had this twice in my
fandom career where we've had a guy on our team that,
in a moment, like the peak moment of their career
might have been the better peak or the best peak
(11:30):
moment that anybody like obviously Jared, Jerry Rice, but Moss
at the peak of being Randy Moss. You go one
game guy at their peak, I don't know. And that's
that's what AP looked like. In that San Diego game.
You're like, well, what the hell are we doing? How
does a guy rip off like this? It was absolutely absurd.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, you ask yourself, who do I take? Who's best
game do I take? And he is way up.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I remember this. I remember the far year there was
a game where I think it was against the Ravens
where he broke loose and he was running up the
left sideline. Jay might remember this and he can tell
me what the actual game was, but I believe it
was the Ravens. It might have been the Steelers. But
(12:17):
he broke up the sideline and he trucked a defensive
back up near the sideline and let out this like
scream that You're like, was the most absurd thing I've
ever heard. It was one of the like, oh, no, one,
He truly looks like a man amongst little children running
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them over and screaming.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I mean, he looks like the mascots against the third graders.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Look where his Look where his knees are when he's running.
It's neck breaking height. It truly is. And I remember think.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Jay is the King immediately messages texts me Adrian Peterson
versus William Gay on the Steelers. So I thought Ravens
it was it was Steelers.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Nice. Yeah. Ap was one of those guys where even
if you even if the team lost, you still go
you leave your jersey on and go out to pick
up your dinner because you go, yeah, but we still
got all day. We still got AP.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
We still got a p the the Chargers. In addition
to being from a place that I think would be
great to live originally, they also had, like there's a
couple of things you already mentioned. There's three things basically
that I'm not going to rail on here. You got
the powder blue unis all time.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Let's talk about Dan Fouts, who I think a young
like retired but now in the media, Dan Fouts in
today's day and age with YouTube channels and guys being insane, like, uh,
you take that in his post career prime Dan Fouts
and throw that fella out into days. I think that
(13:58):
guy's an all timer. I think he is an absolute
all timer.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Also, he might he actually might get written in for
congressman somewhere. Yeah, the first person to ever actually get
written in. I don't know if that's true, but it
has to be close.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
The he in The water Boy. God damn, he's funny
in the water Boy though, the line the water Boy
just needed some water. It's I as a anytime I
can shoehorn Sandler into one of our conversations. Uh, it's
a no brainer for me. But so I am. I
am a very big Dan Fouts guy. But and I
(14:36):
gotta tell you, I do think it's probably I like announcers,
real announcers in movies. You know Dan Patrick's. I know
he's not an announcer, but he's a radio personality. He's been
in some stuff. I don't think anybody's ever gonna touch though,
Alan Michaelson, Oh, who are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I was gonna say, Bob Yuker in Uh, oh.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
No, that's right, Bob Youuker. It's not even close. Bob Yuker,
What am I talking about? I was going in a
different direction. I'm an idiot. Bob Buker in major League
is he He's unbelievable, King of Kings. Fun. This has
nothing to do with sports, but if you're a fan
of things that are fun to watch, watch Norm McDonald
tell David Letterman his Bob Bucher story. It's on YouTube.
(15:15):
You're welcome, but don't wait till our show's over. Listen
and then go do it. You could also pause, but
you know we're big. Take us start to finish, baby,
We're start to finish, guys. I was gonna say al
Michaels in Basketball, which was a big movie during my childhood. Yeah,
because you can just tell. I think he signed up
(15:37):
and I'm I love al Michaels. He's so good, dude.
He's all these iconic calls. He was incredible in like
the Pete Rose documentary. He's just great. And I think
on Basketball, and I have no proof of this, but
just watching it, I have to imagine he showed up
and was like, what am I doing?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
What is this movie like?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Not fully understanding what he'd gotten himself into.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Al Michaels was calling a game with Kirk kurb Street
and he kept making these funny burns and then I
don't think Kirk was getting him, so he would explain
them and then finally Al goes okay, like that, it
was awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
The third the third, Big San Diego Like for me,
where I'm gonna give him a lot of credit is
I'm a basketball guy and I don't know that he
was the first guy. Jay, you can help us out
again here, But I have to believe in the modern
NFL one of the first guys who like he just
didn't play college football. He was a college basketball player,
Antonio Gates. So he plays at Kent State and then goes, well,
(16:41):
I'm gonna play pro football, and not only does it
becomes a Hall of Famer man young side, the basketball
player loved that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Remember when, like a football guy would come out of
a two a day practice and you like somehow had
a pickup game going outside the school because that's where
the courts were, and he was like, do you guys
mind if I jump in? And then he just started dunking,
and you go, that's incredible. Now let's reverse it and
take it to the professional level. I mean, get out
(17:11):
of here. How do you even do that? Because your body.
The reason those guys can take hits in the NFL
is because they took them in college, and before that,
they took them in high school, and before that they
took them in middle school. Your body has to adjust
to getting hit like that. And he was like, huh,
I'll do it. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And he's not a wide receiver, right tight ends get hit.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, And he's coming from a sport where if you
get hit on the wrist you get to shoot two
free throws because it's cheating.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Go I you know I don't need all that attitude.
No one's down, no one's taking shots at hockey.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
No one can take shots at hockey.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Out of here, or I'll tell you who can't. Let's
not do it. Okay, but you set me up. I
guess who can't take shots?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Play nice the Was.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
There a moment for you? Was it? Do you have
like I have, like a pathetic age where you're like,
I don't think I'm gonna I don't think I'm gonna
go pro because I I remember being in my early twenties,
having never played football and having a bet with someone
about how whether or not I could kick a field
goal from a certain length. And I'd never tried to
(18:15):
kick a field goal, and there was a part of
me in the back of my head was like, well,
this is how it starts. I'm gonna go out there,
I'm gonna knock this one through. I'm gonna realize God damn,
I didn't realize I could kick a football. I'm gonna
put a little work in and I'm gonna wind up
in camp. And I didn't, like really believe it, but
I didn't think it was impossible. And so when I
went out and I struggled very poorly, I had the
(18:37):
moment where I was like, this is the end of
my pro hopes in every sport available. I think I
was holding onto bowling a little bit in the back
of my head because I think you could probably get
good at that at a later age. But did you
you're a psycho? What at what point did you let
go of the Vince Papali invincible? Like you had to
(18:59):
have thought if somebody he's me playing pond hockey, Like
what age?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'm going to tell you right now, I'm fifty years
old and I still think I could make the Olympics
in curling. That's no kidding. I invite me to your league, listeners,
invite me to your league, and I'll show you.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I mean I just think there's this thing. Jared Allen
is on a high level curling team. I think you'd
have to find a sport. Guys like us need to
find a sport where guys who are athletes don't want
to spend their time. And I don't think they exist anymore.
I think with they've all been so dude. Brad Johnson,
the former quarterback of the Vikings, qualified for the Papa
(19:38):
Shot National Championship oldest guy in the Papa Shot National Championships,
which is last year. Dude, Ethan and I my nephew
watched a video. Dude, You're like, oh, that's a professional
athlete shooting Papa shot. I thought I was good at
Papa shot. I am not good at Papa shot. This
dude is a professional. So that's the thing. Jared Allen
doing curling. Brad Johnson, when Papa shot, why don't you
(20:01):
just leave the ping pong and the BATCHI ball to
all us noormies. Yeah, some of us can live out
our dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I gotta tell you. In the comedy world, I'm undefeated
in Papa shot, and that's just a fact. I don't
want to argue. I don't want to sit here and
show you my record. But going to bars after shows
with a Papa shot, I cannot be beaten. And then
Washington d C Kittie Corner. It's an underground billiards hall
has a Papa shot Kitty Corner from the Washington DC
(20:27):
improv and I go in and there is a guy
that is maybe up to my chest and he is
using both hands, both hands to just flick flick, flick,
flick flick. It looks like he's trying to get rain
off of his wrists. And he beat me by more
than double and it was the craziest thing in the world.
(20:49):
So I handed him my Crisp one hundred dollars bill
that I had bet, and uh not great. I found
out that I'm only good against comedians who suck at
lots of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Jay just said tennis players playing pickleball is pretty next level.
Uh sure, yeah there is. That's a weird one. The
pickleball thing is a weird one for me because I
get so worried watching middle aged people play pickleball because
I don't think they realize how close they are to
tumbling every time they play. But that's not what this
show is about, right.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
The show is about realizing that you and I have
another show whose producer doesn't do anything, and it's so
great to have someone in the book sending us information
and actually caring.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
It's great. What a change for the two of us.
The matchup this week, Chad our opportunity to get right
if you will. I find it to be an interesting one,
and I would say leading that was what I going
(21:51):
into last week thought to be a pretty interesting red
zone matchup. Okay, now, did I anticipate we would go
one for six in the zone this weekend and therefore
change a lot of the rankings and things that I
thought were interesting going into this Thursday night game? I
did not. But I think. I think. I think because
when you have a next level coach, right, and a
(22:13):
guy who takes a lot of pride in his play
designing and his execution there, this isn't one of those
things where this team's gonna go one for six in
the red zone and come out and go one for
six next week. So I think it's gonna be tuned up.
I think there's gonna be some regression, some positive regression here,
because going into the Eagles game, the Vikings offense was
(22:36):
sixty six point seven per TD rate in the red zone.
Chargers defense second best in the league forty two point
nine percent. Okay, and I thought that to be one
of the premier matchups. And I think now having a
little chip on our shoulder gives us a little juice.
I just whatever your second best defense is, I think
(23:00):
in the set, well, let me let me, let me
continue my speech, because what I am tired of? Can
I give you what I'm tired of?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Why do you ask me things you're gonna do anyways,
just do it.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
What I'm tired of. And I don't care play anybody wherever, however,
But as a fan and a complainer, yeah, we keep
running into these teams in desperate situations. Sure the Falcons
get housed or excuse me, they lose that really tough
game to open the year with everybody watching. Then we
gotta get them on Sunday night. They're desperate, right, the Eagles,
(23:30):
the world champions, lose two in a row, and then
we gotta get them. And oh, by the way, even
though we have a bye, they've got they had a
Thursday night game, right, a desperate team with extra time
that cuts off our extra time. And now the Chargers,
who everybody thought was one of the they thought they
were one of the best teams in the league. They're
not playing well, they get smacked and and we're going
(23:50):
to their house and they got something to prove. I'm
tired of the chips on the shoulders, but I think
our performance in the red zone can mitigate that, because
I think you take the coach, you think you take
a players, and how proud they all are of how
they execute, and I think we're gonna punch that second
place ranking right in the face.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I like where your head's at. I'm going to tell
you that watching the Vikings go one for six in
the red zone made me realize something being at live
games is that I can yell as loud as I want,
and no one can yell at me for ruining their
experience because I was doing some screaming, and because you
know that when I yell at home at the TV,
(24:31):
someone that lives with me gets upset about that, even
though she can go full panic when she opens the
screen door and a bunch of bugs come in the
house and I think there's a murderer about to take
her out. That's fine. We don't have to get into that.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
What I'm saying, Can I ask you a question about
being there? Yeah, my dad took me to When I
was a kid, we didn't go to a lot of games.
One of the only things we ever did is we
went to a Twins game and it was actually the
last game of the strike season and it was the
last game of Kent Herbeck's career. Wow, and so Kent
(25:05):
Herbeck And maybe I just remember this as a kid,
but I don't think so. I think it's what happened.
He got up multiple times with multiple people on base,
if not the base is loaded, and every time he
jacked one like put it deep right to the warning track.
This place he goes up, this place goes nuts. Big
(25:27):
moment coming hits the ball, everybody goes crazy. And then
and it was like four four moments of that throughout
the game. Now, excellent end. The last out to win
the game, somebody did a line drive out of bounds
down the first baseline and he did at that age,
that year old Herbeck diving snag. Yeah, right to catch it. Excellent,
(25:52):
excellent moment.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And for you baseball fans, we know it's not out
of bounds, it's foul. Territory, But that's fine, keep going.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Did you was there? Did you have that vibe because
them getting like because I think they could have been
should have won that game. I think they were the
better team. I know nobody likes to use that language,
but I thought they were a very good team ready
to win that game. Was there a vibe where everybody
was like, oh my gosh, here it goes, here, it goes,
here goes Was there just like this pent.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Up I will tell you all day. Yeah. After the
third field goal, it was a lot of mumbling, the
Vikings cheer song, right, it was a lot of like,
it was a lot of that. But then score a
touchdown and then that Hockinson. Oh it was so close.
(26:39):
I still think it was a catch.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think it was a catch. I don't know. I
don't want to. I don't want to get in the
weeds with the ref who comes on the screen and
tells you what happened from his cozy booth, but I
don't happen to agree with him. The nice thing about
games is you usually get the energy and enthusiasm, and
you don't get all the Minnesota pessimism where you kick
the second ass.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
That's what I was gonna tell you, is that just
Minnesota Sports has this thing where where we almost it
feels like sometimes we don't want it, we want to wallow.
But there was none of that in this game. And
that's what I like about this team. It's like we
talked about Adrian Peterson. We go, wow, we still have
Adrian Peterson. We go, wow, we still have And now
(27:21):
it's a list, it's a list of people. We go,
I still got these guys. Le let's figure it out and.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Let me add something to my whole red zone point here.
They might be good in the red zone, but you
know what I think we're sitting on. You need to
think we're waiting on here. With how well Addison played,
I think I think we're gonna have We keep getting
these moments where we get these chunk plays, these fifteen
Like I think we are so close to having a
game where we go, oh did we just put three forty,
(27:49):
a forty, a fifty, and a seventy on the board. Like,
I think we are so close to breaking through on
some long explosive passing games, and maybe this is time
to do it. Maybe we skip the zone because that, yeah, Addison,
that's a great idea. The Jordan Addison thing was nuts
on Sunday, and I it's why, despite the record and
despite how disappointing that game was. You know, if I'm
(28:13):
if I'm being positive sigh, which we need me to be,
if I'm going to stay in a text thread with
you off the show, you know, in our private life
about this team, I would say that for so long
we have seen teams peak at the end of the
season that play really well into the playoffs, regardless of
their start. You know, the Rams have done it, the
Patriots did it for years. I do think this team
(28:37):
has the makings of one of those teams, as they
get the rest of their guys healthy, as they really
sync together on offense, I think it is sitting there
waiting for them. You got to get this one. You
want to go to four and three, not three and four.
But I do think it's out in front of us
as a as an option.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
And if you want to look at patterns here win loss, win, loss,
win loss. I mean we know what comes next. Pretty Yeah,
you can't look past them, obviously, but talking about the
Addison day of those out routes, there's gonna be a
time where we send Hockinson in the middle, and there
is a just look off to Hawkinson and then that
(29:16):
out route becomes an out and down and it's it's
gonna be an explosive play.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
It's coming, baby. You know. One other thing that I've
found to be interesting was there's somebody who tracks pace
of play and then categorizes it, and it's basically seconds
per play. And the Chargers have they are twenty nine
(29:40):
point nine seconds per play, which is considered fast in
the league, and the Vikings are thirty point three, which
is average to fast. So I think depending on how
the game goes early, I think I think you're gonna
get some fast I think you're gonna get some movement.
And I think I think the thing I'm talking about
(30:01):
where we start getting those shots, we start going, going, going.
I do think there's a possibility that it all comes
together just the way I not just want it to, Chad,
can I tell you the way I need it to?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, But I still can't
get over the fact that when you were crunching those
numbers and figuring that out, did you look up into
the left like the good doctor. What's wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Hey, I'm here's the thing I'm becoming. If I'm going
to get from our friend texted stats that ruin my day,
I'm going to go on a search for stats that
I like. Now, do I know how to put those
into practice on a show and make the two of
us look good?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Absolutely? No way, no way. Somebody else call in with.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
That, But that's not That doesn't mean that we can't
put a little stack icing on our wobbly chocolate cake. Okay,
all right, what do you got for a prediction? What
do you got for a player prediction? What do you
got for a chad prediction? And now I'm surprised that
you're not. I don't know what's going on in your life,
but I had this one pegged. You know, you got
(31:03):
a kid in California. Yeah, you know, we both are
a part of the industry that has a lot of
stuff in California. Hm. The ocean's there, which you love.
I'm somewhat surprised that you are not on the go,
do work, go to the game. See my kid trip
on this one?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, I could see where you're doing that, but I
I'm gonna be out there, see I'm gonna see her
she's actually gonna be here on that night. So we're
gonna we're gonna post up on the couch watch the game,
and she can dream about, uh, dream about that. Watched
The English Teacher with Sean Patton. We're gonna stream that
all the way through. We're gonna binge it. It's called
(31:44):
kids call it binging. So so here here's my prediction. Now,
obviously I said win, lost, win, loss, win, loss, so
you would think my prediction is a big win. But
I'm gonna go very conservative here because old Justi Pooh
is good at throwing the football, So I'm gonna say
Viking reeze.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Can we talk about how much Justin Herbert looks like
your kid? It is? It is?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's wild.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
How often do people tell him or you that I.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Don't know about him, but I've heard it a few times.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, they look very very similar.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Listen, good looking people shout out, I make good looking
human beings.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
It's like if somebody did, like right now, somebody did
a Netflix show about your kid and they had to
cast an actor, they would cast Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah. I don't know that he's an actor, but okay.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
But he's just a bigger you know, often they pick
people who are bigger and older than.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
They Chargers twenty four, and I know that sounds like
a lot. I'm so Minnesota Vikings to sixteen.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
To sixteen to sixteen, So that's a little aggressive, you know.
I think you're being a little aggressive because I'm I'm
a hardball guy. I think he's a very good coach.
So I'm gonna say Chargers seventeen. I think it's gonna
be a little more low scoring. I think it's about
one hundred and twenty four for the Vikings. Who you
(33:13):
got for a player?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Okay, Well, here's the thing. I'm gonna go three players,
and everybody's I'm.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You're just gonna try to take as many players off
the board. So I can't choose a player.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
No, no, no, because they're all from the same position.
So I don't think you're gonna do it. I'm gonna
take three players.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I'm gonna say they chose all the centers, that the.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Quarterback whisperer is gonna play all three quarterbacks that wants
wishbone formation, and we are gonna see some trick plays
like we have never seen in our lifetime.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
In our lifetime, mine is Justin Jefferson. Okay, it's I
think you're gonna get one of those Justin Jefferson. Oh yeah,
No one's even close to this guy. Like twelve catches,
one hundred and eighty some yards and a couple of touchdowns.
All that film on Addison Hawkinson has come alive. Yeapdude.
(34:04):
I think that they are going to have to maybe
they say, hey, beat us with Addison and Hockinson and
everybody else. But I think we're in a position where
we're about to have a big Justin Jefferson game.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Of course, I'm you know what, I could say, three touchdowns,
one from each quarterback in the wishbone formation.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
What's your chad prediction?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
My chad prediction is I'm gonna be as loud as
I want during this game because old girlfriend Kelsey Cook's
going to be at the University of Iowa doing stand
up comedy and I don't have to keep my volume
anywhere near normal. I am going to be yelling with positivity.
I am going to be shouting at how poorly I
think commercials are written nowadays. Everything that happens is gonna
(34:46):
I'm taking it to a thirteen.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I am gonna be watching this game because I'm traveling.
I'm gonna be watching this game shortly after we land
in Charleston, South Carolina. We're I'll be doing stand up weekend,
and my family is using it as a chance to
go on a vacation, and so I will be watching
this game with my dad on a phone for at
(35:10):
least part of it. So my energy will be right
here because he I love it. He doesn't handle the
chaotic energy. So no matter what happens, I go, it's
gonna be It's gonna be fine. Death, We're gonna the
team is gonna be fine. Everything's great. Death that's gonna
do it for us. Thank you for joining us here
(35:31):
on the Vikings tailgate. Hey, you're on the podcast beat
and that means a lot to us. It would mean
a lot if you left a review the five stars
the whole thing right, uh, thank you for joining us
and we will see you next week. Score
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