November 20, 2025 • 28 mins
Welcome back to The Vikings Tailgate - Presented by Ticketmaster - The official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings. Cy Amundson and Chad Daniels are salty heading into the week 12 "Border Battle" in Green Bay. Chad and Cy talk about the time Chad got yelled at by every Packers fan in Lambeau Field, how Cy almost caused a riot wearing a Vikings Favre jersey in Appleton, WI, the impact of pro teams in small towns, and why Jalen Redmond is the unsung hero for the 2025 Vikings Defense. All of this and more is in Episode 64 of The Vikings Tailgate - Presented by Ticketmaster - The official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings.
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I'm your host Siaminson, sitting across from me as a
guy who criticizes my intro every week with his little smirk.
Ladies and gentlemen. The co host, Chad Daniels, Hello, everybody,
listen to me. I'm not in the mood.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I know you're not.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Oh, I know I'm not in the mood.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Nobody is.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
As a Viking fan, I'm not in the mood. And
it's not just that we lost to the Bears last
week the way we did. It's that that happened, and
now it's Packer week, and I know you have a
lot of relationships with Packer fans. I don't know what's happening,
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but the amount of trash talk early and often from
Packer fans is hitting me at a aggressive level.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Sure, I'm just gonna throw this out there. I believe
that the Packers and the Eagles should get all their
primetime games taken for the next seven years, because that
was the worst game of football I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
By the way, you know, how everyone's like right now
when the team's not doing as well as say they
were last year. It's interesting what happens to the fan base,
right Some people get really negative and really really critical.
Some people get really really defensive and really really homery.
You know. It's kind of like, Oh, I don't know
the American political system, and there's no gray area whatsoever.
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Rights there is, we exist in it, but the gray
area doesn't get discussed. And the only thing I will
say about some of the I've heard some people who
are very positive and homery who are really upset. And
I had one friend go like, I'm embarrassed. He was like,
I'm embarrassed by how dramatically we're reacting to some struggle.
And I go, let me, let me tell you a
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little bit about reacting to struggle in a fan base.
A friend of the program, Blake Wexler, like Flong Eagles
die Hard, sent me this. There is an Instagram account
right now whose sole purpose is comparing a coach, an
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assistant coach on the Eagles to Saddam Hussein. That's what's
happening interesting over in Eagle Land where they're a super
Bowl favorite. So I actually think we're doing okay.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I wonder if the person that started that account
is the same guy that ate the cop horse crap
after they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's the only way I could have done that to
his brain to make him do that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Somebody's got worms.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But here's the thing, man, Like, I am a little
riled up because I've been getting just and I'm not
in the mood to engage back. This isn't a fun year.
This like or moment for Packer Week for me, so
like I want to win. I still dislike them, and
I shouldn't say it's not fun. It's like I don't
really have the ammo to go back, right, you know,
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you can't quite go back as hard. So what I've
been doing, and I want you to tell me what
you think about this, I'm not engaging at all. I'm
only I'm not trash talking bast silent treatment, yeah, silent treatment, no,
not quite all they trash talk me. If any of
the Packer fans trash talk me, I just send them
back a fact about their state that I think is absurd,
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and then I no matter what they say after that,
then they get silent treatment. So, for example, somebody said
some really negative things to me, some heavy duty trash talk,
and all I wrote back was Wisconsin once had two
local towns argue over who would get a thirty foot
tall fiberglass badger statue, so enjoy the game. A Milwaukee
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resident legally changed his name to Count Justinian de mort
Or a Cape daily slept in a coffin shaped bed,
and petition the May to declare his birthday vampire appreciation day,
and I'd still rather hang with him than talk football
with you. That's the sort of stuff that I'm sending back.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's smart.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Wisconsin currently has seventeen hundred and sixty bridges that need
to be repaired, and I assume that's because your fans
keep walking on them. That is the sort of stuff
it's It could be a heavy foot joke. I'm not
gonna let you paint it the way you wanted to
paint it. That's an interpret it however you want it.
But that is how I am just I'm just taking
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shots at Wisconsin culture in response to the football trash
talk I'm receiving.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, that's a smart way to do it. I mean,
there are a lot of those. I've been to Wisconsin
several times, so have you to perform live stand up comedy, and.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You know it is that's actually the origin of our friendship,
don't right. No, I don't know how many people know that.
Our friendship not the birth birth, but I think the
growth of our pl when it flourished. You want to
tell it, you want to tell the people.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, we were in Appleton, Wisconsin, which is just south
of Green Bay, and we were working at the Skyline
Comedy Cafe and what year do we.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Think this is? Back in twenty two thousand and seven
it was the far of year. What year was far
twenty nine, two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Okay, so we're there and we're doing We used to
do this decathlon thing where we would do ten events
that were somewhat athletic. Right, it was like wiffleball, home run,
derby contest. Yeah, just stuff like that that wasn't the
actual game game, but it was derivative of it. So
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we would do that and then on the and then
we were playing cribbage at the club for I think
it was the tenth event.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And then it's funny how the athleticism started with the
athletes or with athletics and whittled down to let's play
cards and move toothpick.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well towards towards the end of the week. You don't
have access, right, you can't like quick run to the
ry Ymca in between sets. But what you can do
is right before a set is you can put on
a Vikings Brett Favre jersey like you did. And then
I heard you get I heard you get introduced, and
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then I heard just thick booing without you having said anything.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Now, it's it was right before. It was right before
the first game that Brett Farve played the Packers as
a Viking. It was the it was the Saturday night
before that was going to happen, I think on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah and uh. And the people were I'm gonna go
with less than pleased yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And so that's when I thought to myself, like, yeah,
I think that he and I have a pretty similar brain.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I the way I know we have similar brain is
because you might not remember this. So I went up
on stage. Cliff, who ran the club, pulled the lights
up because and I quote, he was pretty sure somebody
was going to throw a glass at me because I
was doing the Hulk Hogan like bump up up like
hand to the ear motion, over and over. And then
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you ran to the booth and as I was going up,
played the Monday night football theme music. That's the one
thing that I remember. And here we are years later
with the team letting us be involved, which.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's right, and our friendship barely hanging on.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Jay the producer just said that people throw pool balls
on the field at players during that game. During the
Lambeau game, when Farv went back there for the first
time and had signs comparing Farv to Fredo from The Godfather.
So I didn't get the pool balls.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I knew it was you, but.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You could you know, you could feel that that would
probably be the reaction in that room night, because I
believe Appleton is where the opposing team stay. So Appleton
they're not just pack Vans. I think they feel like
they're really a part of it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, because I went to a Vike's Packer game Lambeau
and Brett Farv was still the quarterback Dante Culpeppers for US.
Dante Culpepper was getting murdered. I'm saying straight up murdered,
and Brett Favre would get touched on the shoulder. It
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would be like you wouldn't even know if he was
down playing touch football and they'd throw a flag. So
I start freaking out. I'm screaming down the field and
here's the section around me, right, just a couple rows
started chanting all before I know it, within the minute,
the entire stadium. Here's the crazy thing about this stadium
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is they don't have to know, they don't have to
have witnessed what happened. They just know if somebody sends
out the bat signal, we have to join in. And
so this entire stadium was chanting that. And then we
were at the bar afterwards back in Appleton, because we
were staying at the same hotel that the Vikes were
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staying at, and we're at the bar right next door,
and then this Packer fan comes in. He goes, oh, man,
somebody from Minnesota really got it tonight because everybody was chanting.
And my buddy goes, he's right here, this guy. And
I really didn't even do anything to deserve it other
than yelling. Because remember when Farv and even even Rogers
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that whole thing. The Packers got a lot of calls.
They were the chiefs. They were the chiefs of the
early two thousands, so it was tough.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Can I ask you a question about Lambeau, please, because
begrudgingly I think we can both admit such a cool place.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, maybe this is a dumb comparison, but it's the
closest you get to the English soccer vibe, where a
tiny town of a few tens of thousands has a
giant stadium in a team. That's what it feels like
it's so incredible. But the question I always have, and
I always ask when I meet somebody from Green Bay
or who lives there, like in today's modern age, with
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how big it's all become, how do you experience that?
Because you and I Alexandria Fergus Falls, my dad's from
Detroit Lakes, were right near Detroit Lakes, and we know
what it's like when we Fest comes to Detroit Lakes, right,
And I know a guy who told me once he's like,
I would rather eat my own foot than be in
Detroit Lakes during we Fest. And I wonder, I mean,
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you either have to lean one way or another. If
the Vikings move to Fergus Falls, Yeah, and you still
live there, are you loving every minute of that? Or
do you want to get out of Fergus Falls and
travel to where the Vikings play? Would you love a
pro team in your tiny small town? No?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
No, no, because too many people come, so you know,
even in the summertime, have a little cabin up there.
There's a town called Battle Lake that has I think
I think eight thousand people in it. No, that's way
too big. Maybe, I mean we might be talking about
even hundreds of people in it. And then in the
summertime it's thirty thousand people. Yes, and so that's too
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much because you never know. You don't get to vet
who's coming. No one has to fill out an application
to get into the town, and I'm not into it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It would be you know, of the imagination scenarios of
ways you could get rich. I do think one of
the cool ways would be like, yeah, we just owned
a couple of houses in Green Bay, kind of near
the stadium, and then twenty years later we're like, well,
let's go buy a palace and retire somewhere. Yeah, that's
all time real estate because those houses and they're like
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that is one of the cooler parts of the vibe
is just walking past that row of houses that are
all partying and tailgating. That feels so authentic and uniqueere
You're like, that's a neighborhood, that's a stadium, and Chad
could probably hit both of them with a baseball.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, it's pretty interesting. And speaking of owning things, and
the Packers, boy do their fans love to tell you
that they own the team. But when you say, hey,
call down to the field and let's run this one,
they don't have any access to that. So you don't
own anything. Let's just stop it. They gave you a
certificate so you could feel important.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I couldn't agree more. I think that's a great place
to take to break because I want you to have
that last negative word. We're gonna come back. We're going
to talk about other stuff. But I couldn't agree more
with that assessment. Actually I lied. I'll tack on top
of it. I do think they're a lot like trust
fund kids. They just keep getting stuff no matter how
you know, no matter what happens, they just keep getting good,
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nice things. But let's we don't need to devolve. Let's
get into the game itself. Yeah, growing up, like you're
you're thirty years older than me, so we you experienced
this as a later stage adult, while I was experiencing
it as a child. But it's interesting to think back
to that mystique that was built and that existed through
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most of our formative years. I think some younger fans think,
like lambeau is this forever iconic, and it's not. They
had split their games with Milwaukee before ninety five, and
in ninety five they go full lambeau Field. From that
point on, they go on an absurd twenty five because
it coincides with the rise of farb They go on
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a twenty five consecutive regular home season win streak. I
think it's the second largest in NFL history. I think
the Dolphins had like twenty seven. And that streak ends
ladies and gentlemen. With the Randy Moss game boo yeah,
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ninety five to the Randy Moss game September seventeenth of
ninety five to October fifth of ninety eight, they did
not lose a home game, and then the winter thing
still persisted. They were twelve and zero all time in
home playoff games. And then do you remember when Vic
shattered that. You remember when he came in in that
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two thousand and three playoff game. He was like twenty
two years old and just throttled them in a way
where everybody went, what that's not right, You're up like
twenty four zero. So I don't know if home field
advantage has changed for the entire league, if people are
more prepared for weather and the elements, if just the
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technology and advancements of being an NFL team have changed that.
But we I do remember a time where it's like,
go to Green Bay lose.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's very nice that that is not that way anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, because it used to be, well, you know, it
would get so cold so early. And that's what I
love about that stadium is it's a lot of bleachers
and so you are smushed together. It's you are surviving
because of a stranger's body heat. It's it's perfect.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I do.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I really like that stadium, but I really like to
watch them lose in that stadium New York Giants.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I'd like to watch them lose. I think if they
do lose, I normally we do game previews, but I
want to Can we do a player spotlight as a
dude I've been talking about all year and I can't
stop talking about him. And I don't think even though
other people are talking about him, the credit is anywhere
near where it should be. And I think it really
clicked last game Bears game, Tom Brady said, and I
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think everybody picked up on it. Maybe it's common knowledge,
but he goes. Brian Flores told them that Jalen Redman
has been our best defensive lineman. It's on the line
with you know, Jonathan Gernard's some other good players. But
I totally agree, and I think this guy is not
only doing that right now, but like, if you're looking
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for hope, if you're looking for enthusiasm to me on
the defensive side, I got one for each side. But
it's he's a place to put a ton of it,
because not only is he like this unique story, but
I didn't understand this. So he grew up in a
place called Midwest City, Oklahoma, which is the funniest name.
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It's like being from town. Yeah, I'm from town, Illinois.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Hey, we need a name for our city.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, where is it pretty south near Texas? Well, let's
call it Midwest City. Brother, Midwest City, Oklahomer. So, he
didn't play varsity football his first two years of high school.
He was just a basketball player. And I know there's
like basketball players in college who went on to play
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football in the pros, and I guess maybe some of
them never played high school football. But the first time
this dude ever touched a football he was a junior
in high school. First year high school, eighty two tackles,
fourteen sacks. They played like nine games in high school.
Du senior year. Listen to this second year ever playing
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football his senior year starts, he's only been in the
sport for a year, eighty seven tackles, thirty four for
a loss, nineteen and a half sacks, and he becomes
the number sixteenth nationally ranked player. Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Now I have some stats here too. From his high
school sophomore year basketball scored one hundred and sixty four points,
eighteen dunks, one shattered backboard, fourteen tackles, And that's why
they asked him to move to football.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Dude, think about going from never touching a football to
the sixteenth ranked prospect in a sport that everybody desperately
wishes they were a prospect in in two years. Like
that's I think they should take the Jalen Redmond story
and show it to you know, when a bunch of
eighth graders are going to play basketball or football for
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the first time, they should set everybody down and go,
ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to talk about Jalen Redman
and they should tell all this and then they go.
So when you get mad at your coach for not
playing your son correctly, which by the way, he's just
a dad and he's volunteering, when you do that, I
want you to ask yourself yes, could my kids start
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playing football at sixteen and be a nationally ranked recruit
by eighteen? And if your answer is no, maybe take
a breath, change your tone, and refocus.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Because this high school was in Oklahoma, so many dads
had to be screaming about this basketball player turned football
player starting to get all these things and then after
one game. This is my impersonation of so many dads
in Oklahoma. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
He so he goes to college. He ends up having
a medical issue in college. Carol Levin, I believe did
a really great story on this. But he doesn't get drafted,
right despite his combine. It's like he has the second
best forty yard dash time among interior defensive lineman's second
best ten yard split, and the best broad jump and
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vertical jump. Like he's an off the charts athlete and
he's still Oh, by the way, only been playing football
significantly less than a decade, so he's undrafted, signs with
the Panthers, plays in the XFL. Everybody knows this part
of the story. But man, it's not that I like,
I'm not focusing on him because I want to focus
on the fact that he's been good. I'm focusing on
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him because I think guys like that who learns so
quickly and becomes So what's he going to look like
in two years? I don't think he's at a ceiling
are you? Are you all of a sudden going what
have we found ourselves here? And with the way I
think Donovan Jackson is played on the offensive line, the
whole talk in the off season was we've got to
fix the trenches. We got to fix the interior trenches.
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And they went and got a couple of big name
free agents on both sides, and then I think the
Donovan Jackson draft pick, even though it was a number
one pick, and this Jalen Redman thing which happened the
year before, they kind of flew under the radar. And
right now, if you're looking at the future of those interiors,
I feel really good about it because I think both
these guys have a chance to be incredible studs. We
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should move to the game preview. We should do that
part of the show, because that is I could have
just talked I could have just talked Jalen Redmond the
whole time, but we do have to preview the game.
That's an important part of our job. Okay, one thing
I'm really looking forward to this weekend. Justin Jefferson. He
passed last Sunday Tory Holt to climb to number two
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on the list of most receiving yards in a player's
first six seasons. He only needs one hundred and ninety
seven to pass Randy Moss and come number one. Everybody
else is either on this list in the top five.
I mean, you're talking it's Randy Moss, Tory Holt, Jerry Rice,
Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, we're already, We're already to the prediction segment because
I think he's getting it Sunday. So the uh, I
think the interesting thing about it, The thing I like
about it is now that they play seventeen games, it
can be kind of baked and you're like, well, he's
that gay all the extra games, but with one hundred
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and ninety seven to go, it's feasibly could break it
in the next couple and that shortens that, Like it's
not like he needed the extra games. He's just breaking
the record purely based upon breaking the record. So it's
kind of wild that we have, you know, in our lifetimes,
we have got to have Randy Moss and Justin Jefferson
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and Chris Carter.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
It's pretty it's pretty strange. It's pretty great.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
J Let me let me tell you this. So Chris
Carter was at the game and they were talking to
him about Vikings Bears matchups, and he's down on the field.
They go, so what do you think about the Chicago
Bears and he goes, I gotta tell you I love
the Bears. Without the Bears, I wouldn't be in the
Hall of Fame. And the place goes crazy. It was
such a good line, and it's exactly what everyone needed
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because we were tense.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Let me give you two things to feel good about,
and then let's do our prediction. Okay, okay, Aaron Jones
is returning to Lambeau. This is take two for that
journey last year. Pretty good. Week four twenty two. Carries
ninety three yards, four receptions forty six yards. He's done
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very well against the Packers on the whole, with one
hundred and forty total rushing yards seventy six receiving yards.
But in addition, our wide receivers have done exception really well.
Jefferson and Addison combined four in week four one hundred
and fifty seven yards and two touchdowns, and then Jefferson,
Addison and Naylor in Week sixteen combined for two hundred
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and forty two yards and two touchdowns. So this is
a This is a group of weapons that has had
success against the Packers. And if for no other reason
that I have a bunch of unfinished trash talk chats
in my phone right now, hm, I would love to
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see that continue. What do you got for prediction score is? Uh?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Listen, I'm gonna tell you something. I got up at
three point thirty in the morning to fly home from Washington,
DC to watch the same mistakes being made over and
over and never taking a chance to fix them. I'm
going Viking six Packers three. I'm in a negative headspace
right now.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
You're in a negative headspace. I actually I am in a
little bit of a negative headspace too. I'm gonna go
I also think the Packers are going to score three
Vikings one hundred and twenty seven. And I think this
is a breakout week for my boy Jalen Redmond. I
highlighted him on the show. And then if he does breakout,
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I mean he's already broken up. But I'm like, oh,
he has like a monster game, and if that happens,
I will convince myself that I played a role in it,
and then we might have to do a player segment
highlight thing on every show. Because I deal with obsessive
compulsive disorder and I believe in a lot of silly stuff.
I'm very superstitious those aren't the same thing. I just
happened to have both of them coexisting in my brain.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
For my player prediction, I'm gonna go Aaron Jones gets
a Lambeau Leap Purple Edition Purple E discion.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Are you when was the last time you were at
a game in Lambeau? Was it that one you got
boot at? Or have you been to one since I.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Went to one? Since? So my uncle, who my great uncle,
he ended up he had the high school rushing record
in Green Bay for I think into the nineties. And
this is my great uncle, and so when he was little,
he used to sneak in to practice under a fence
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all him and his friends could watch. And it was
just just this really cool, really cool experience to get
to bring him to a Packer game, and it was
it was the game that Adrian Peterson ran wild on them,
so it was really really fun to see. But I've
got to bring him into the little museum, the Packer
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Hall of Fame, and he started crying and I was like, oh,
this dude was tough. So it was it was a
really interesting fun moment. So the juxtaposition of having that
chant happen at one game with my buddies and then
getting to watch this guy like really have a great
time was very fun.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Here's what I think. Should let me give you a
pitch because we're both in a little bit of a
negative headspace and I'd like to push us into a
positive headspace. So clearly that's my NonStop goal. Here's my pitch. Okay,
I think if and when they allow us to keep
doing this show next year, which I can't imagine why
anyone would, given who you and I are as like
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people like the closer they let us, the more insane
we become. But I think I think Chatty Daddy Insie
recording from Lambeau next year. Yeah, sure, we'll do it
on the fan absolutely will help with the pregame show.
How about you have the We're the you know how
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you wake up and you're like, what time's Colin Coward on.
But there's that other show that's on in the morning
that keeps switching, like the Breakfast Ball or whatever. Give us,
make us breakfast Ball to the pregame show. Put Cy
and Chatty Daddy out in Lambeau and let's just see
what comes back.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah not Chad and Si we don't come back, and
body Bags made.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
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I'm your host Siaminson, sitting across from me as a
guy who criticizes my intro every week with his little smirk.
Ladies and gentlemen. The co host, Chad Daniels, Hello, everybody,
listen to me. I'm not in the mood.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I know you're not.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Oh, I know I'm not in the mood.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Nobody is.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
As a Viking fan, I'm not in the mood. And
it's not just that we lost to the Bears last
week the way we did. It's that that happened, and
now it's Packer week, and I know you have a
lot of relationships with Packer fans. I don't know what's happening,
(01:45):
but the amount of trash talk early and often from
Packer fans is hitting me at a aggressive level.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Sure, I'm just gonna throw this out there. I believe
that the Packers and the Eagles should get all their
primetime games taken for the next seven years, because that
was the worst game of football I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
By the way, you know, how everyone's like right now
when the team's not doing as well as say they
were last year. It's interesting what happens to the fan base,
right Some people get really negative and really really critical.
Some people get really really defensive and really really homery.
You know. It's kind of like, Oh, I don't know
the American political system, and there's no gray area whatsoever.
(02:31):
Rights there is, we exist in it, but the gray
area doesn't get discussed. And the only thing I will
say about some of the I've heard some people who
are very positive and homery who are really upset. And
I had one friend go like, I'm embarrassed. He was like,
I'm embarrassed by how dramatically we're reacting to some struggle.
And I go, let me, let me tell you a
(02:53):
little bit about reacting to struggle in a fan base.
A friend of the program, Blake Wexler, like Flong Eagles
die Hard, sent me this. There is an Instagram account
right now whose sole purpose is comparing a coach, an
(03:14):
assistant coach on the Eagles to Saddam Hussein. That's what's
happening interesting over in Eagle Land where they're a super
Bowl favorite. So I actually think we're doing okay.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I wonder if the person that started that account
is the same guy that ate the cop horse crap
after they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's the only way I could have done that to
his brain to make him do that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Somebody's got worms.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But here's the thing, man, Like, I am a little
riled up because I've been getting just and I'm not
in the mood to engage back. This isn't a fun year.
This like or moment for Packer Week for me, so
like I want to win. I still dislike them, and
I shouldn't say it's not fun. It's like I don't
really have the ammo to go back, right, you know,
(04:01):
you can't quite go back as hard. So what I've
been doing, and I want you to tell me what
you think about this, I'm not engaging at all. I'm
only I'm not trash talking bast silent treatment, yeah, silent treatment, no,
not quite all they trash talk me. If any of
the Packer fans trash talk me, I just send them
back a fact about their state that I think is absurd,
(04:24):
and then I no matter what they say after that,
then they get silent treatment. So, for example, somebody said
some really negative things to me, some heavy duty trash talk,
and all I wrote back was Wisconsin once had two
local towns argue over who would get a thirty foot
tall fiberglass badger statue, so enjoy the game. A Milwaukee
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resident legally changed his name to Count Justinian de mort
Or a Cape daily slept in a coffin shaped bed,
and petition the May to declare his birthday vampire appreciation day,
and I'd still rather hang with him than talk football
with you. That's the sort of stuff that I'm sending back.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's smart.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Wisconsin currently has seventeen hundred and sixty bridges that need
to be repaired, and I assume that's because your fans
keep walking on them. That is the sort of stuff
it's It could be a heavy foot joke. I'm not
gonna let you paint it the way you wanted to
paint it. That's an interpret it however you want it.
But that is how I am just I'm just taking
(05:35):
shots at Wisconsin culture in response to the football trash
talk I'm receiving.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, that's a smart way to do it. I mean,
there are a lot of those. I've been to Wisconsin
several times, so have you to perform live stand up comedy, and.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You know it is that's actually the origin of our friendship,
don't right. No, I don't know how many people know that.
Our friendship not the birth birth, but I think the
growth of our pl when it flourished. You want to
tell it, you want to tell the people.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, we were in Appleton, Wisconsin, which is just south
of Green Bay, and we were working at the Skyline
Comedy Cafe and what year do we.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Think this is? Back in twenty two thousand and seven
it was the far of year. What year was far
twenty nine, two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Okay, so we're there and we're doing We used to
do this decathlon thing where we would do ten events
that were somewhat athletic. Right, it was like wiffleball, home run,
derby contest. Yeah, just stuff like that that wasn't the
actual game game, but it was derivative of it. So
(06:41):
we would do that and then on the and then
we were playing cribbage at the club for I think
it was the tenth event.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And then it's funny how the athleticism started with the
athletes or with athletics and whittled down to let's play
cards and move toothpick.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well towards towards the end of the week. You don't
have access, right, you can't like quick run to the
ry Ymca in between sets. But what you can do
is right before a set is you can put on
a Vikings Brett Favre jersey like you did. And then
I heard you get I heard you get introduced, and
(07:21):
then I heard just thick booing without you having said anything.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Now, it's it was right before. It was right before
the first game that Brett Farve played the Packers as
a Viking. It was the it was the Saturday night
before that was going to happen, I think on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah and uh. And the people were I'm gonna go
with less than pleased yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And so that's when I thought to myself, like, yeah,
I think that he and I have a pretty similar brain.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I the way I know we have similar brain is
because you might not remember this. So I went up
on stage. Cliff, who ran the club, pulled the lights
up because and I quote, he was pretty sure somebody
was going to throw a glass at me because I
was doing the Hulk Hogan like bump up up like
hand to the ear motion, over and over. And then
(08:14):
you ran to the booth and as I was going up,
played the Monday night football theme music. That's the one
thing that I remember. And here we are years later
with the team letting us be involved, which.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's right, and our friendship barely hanging on.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Jay the producer just said that people throw pool balls
on the field at players during that game. During the
Lambeau game, when Farv went back there for the first
time and had signs comparing Farv to Fredo from The Godfather.
So I didn't get the pool balls.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I knew it was you, but.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You could you know, you could feel that that would
probably be the reaction in that room night, because I
believe Appleton is where the opposing team stay. So Appleton
they're not just pack Vans. I think they feel like
they're really a part of it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, because I went to a Vike's Packer game Lambeau
and Brett Farv was still the quarterback Dante Culpeppers for US.
Dante Culpepper was getting murdered. I'm saying straight up murdered,
and Brett Favre would get touched on the shoulder. It
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would be like you wouldn't even know if he was
down playing touch football and they'd throw a flag. So
I start freaking out. I'm screaming down the field and
here's the section around me, right, just a couple rows
started chanting all before I know it, within the minute,
the entire stadium. Here's the crazy thing about this stadium
(09:49):
is they don't have to know, they don't have to
have witnessed what happened. They just know if somebody sends
out the bat signal, we have to join in. And
so this entire stadium was chanting that. And then we
were at the bar afterwards back in Appleton, because we
were staying at the same hotel that the Vikes were
(10:10):
staying at, and we're at the bar right next door,
and then this Packer fan comes in. He goes, oh, man,
somebody from Minnesota really got it tonight because everybody was chanting.
And my buddy goes, he's right here, this guy. And
I really didn't even do anything to deserve it other
than yelling. Because remember when Farv and even even Rogers
(10:31):
that whole thing. The Packers got a lot of calls.
They were the chiefs. They were the chiefs of the
early two thousands, so it was tough.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Can I ask you a question about Lambeau, please, because
begrudgingly I think we can both admit such a cool place.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, maybe this is a dumb comparison, but it's the
closest you get to the English soccer vibe, where a
tiny town of a few tens of thousands has a
giant stadium in a team. That's what it feels like
it's so incredible. But the question I always have, and
I always ask when I meet somebody from Green Bay
or who lives there, like in today's modern age, with
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how big it's all become, how do you experience that?
Because you and I Alexandria Fergus Falls, my dad's from
Detroit Lakes, were right near Detroit Lakes, and we know
what it's like when we Fest comes to Detroit Lakes, right,
And I know a guy who told me once he's like,
I would rather eat my own foot than be in
Detroit Lakes during we Fest. And I wonder, I mean,
(11:34):
you either have to lean one way or another. If
the Vikings move to Fergus Falls, Yeah, and you still
live there, are you loving every minute of that? Or
do you want to get out of Fergus Falls and
travel to where the Vikings play? Would you love a
pro team in your tiny small town? No?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
No, no, because too many people come, so you know,
even in the summertime, have a little cabin up there.
There's a town called Battle Lake that has I think
I think eight thousand people in it. No, that's way
too big. Maybe, I mean we might be talking about
even hundreds of people in it. And then in the
summertime it's thirty thousand people. Yes, and so that's too
(12:13):
much because you never know. You don't get to vet
who's coming. No one has to fill out an application
to get into the town, and I'm not into it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It would be you know, of the imagination scenarios of
ways you could get rich. I do think one of
the cool ways would be like, yeah, we just owned
a couple of houses in Green Bay, kind of near
the stadium, and then twenty years later we're like, well,
let's go buy a palace and retire somewhere. Yeah, that's
all time real estate because those houses and they're like
(12:45):
that is one of the cooler parts of the vibe
is just walking past that row of houses that are
all partying and tailgating. That feels so authentic and uniqueere
You're like, that's a neighborhood, that's a stadium, and Chad
could probably hit both of them with a baseball.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, it's pretty interesting. And speaking of owning things, and
the Packers, boy do their fans love to tell you
that they own the team. But when you say, hey,
call down to the field and let's run this one,
they don't have any access to that. So you don't
own anything. Let's just stop it. They gave you a
certificate so you could feel important.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I couldn't agree more. I think that's a great place
to take to break because I want you to have
that last negative word. We're gonna come back. We're going
to talk about other stuff. But I couldn't agree more
with that assessment. Actually I lied. I'll tack on top
of it. I do think they're a lot like trust
fund kids. They just keep getting stuff no matter how
you know, no matter what happens, they just keep getting good,
(13:41):
nice things. But let's we don't need to devolve. Let's
get into the game itself. Yeah, growing up, like you're
you're thirty years older than me, so we you experienced
this as a later stage adult, while I was experiencing
it as a child. But it's interesting to think back
to that mystique that was built and that existed through
(14:03):
most of our formative years. I think some younger fans think,
like lambeau is this forever iconic, and it's not. They
had split their games with Milwaukee before ninety five, and
in ninety five they go full lambeau Field. From that
point on, they go on an absurd twenty five because
it coincides with the rise of farb They go on
(14:26):
a twenty five consecutive regular home season win streak. I
think it's the second largest in NFL history. I think
the Dolphins had like twenty seven. And that streak ends
ladies and gentlemen. With the Randy Moss game boo yeah,
(14:46):
ninety five to the Randy Moss game September seventeenth of
ninety five to October fifth of ninety eight, they did
not lose a home game, and then the winter thing
still persisted. They were twelve and zero all time in
home playoff games. And then do you remember when Vic
shattered that. You remember when he came in in that
(15:08):
two thousand and three playoff game. He was like twenty
two years old and just throttled them in a way
where everybody went, what that's not right, You're up like
twenty four zero. So I don't know if home field
advantage has changed for the entire league, if people are
more prepared for weather and the elements, if just the
(15:29):
technology and advancements of being an NFL team have changed that.
But we I do remember a time where it's like,
go to Green Bay lose.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's very nice that that is not that way anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, because it used to be, well, you know, it
would get so cold so early. And that's what I
love about that stadium is it's a lot of bleachers
and so you are smushed together. It's you are surviving
because of a stranger's body heat. It's it's perfect.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I do.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I really like that stadium, but I really like to
watch them lose in that stadium New York Giants.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I'd like to watch them lose. I think if they
do lose, I normally we do game previews, but I
want to Can we do a player spotlight as a
dude I've been talking about all year and I can't
stop talking about him. And I don't think even though
other people are talking about him, the credit is anywhere
near where it should be. And I think it really
clicked last game Bears game, Tom Brady said, and I
(16:27):
think everybody picked up on it. Maybe it's common knowledge,
but he goes. Brian Flores told them that Jalen Redman
has been our best defensive lineman. It's on the line
with you know, Jonathan Gernard's some other good players. But
I totally agree, and I think this guy is not
only doing that right now, but like, if you're looking
(16:50):
for hope, if you're looking for enthusiasm to me on
the defensive side, I got one for each side. But
it's he's a place to put a ton of it,
because not only is he like this unique story, but
I didn't understand this. So he grew up in a
place called Midwest City, Oklahoma, which is the funniest name.
(17:13):
It's like being from town. Yeah, I'm from town, Illinois.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Hey, we need a name for our city.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, where is it pretty south near Texas? Well, let's
call it Midwest City. Brother, Midwest City, Oklahomer. So, he
didn't play varsity football his first two years of high school.
He was just a basketball player. And I know there's
like basketball players in college who went on to play
(17:39):
football in the pros, and I guess maybe some of
them never played high school football. But the first time
this dude ever touched a football he was a junior
in high school. First year high school, eighty two tackles,
fourteen sacks. They played like nine games in high school.
Du senior year. Listen to this second year ever playing
(18:03):
football his senior year starts, he's only been in the
sport for a year, eighty seven tackles, thirty four for
a loss, nineteen and a half sacks, and he becomes
the number sixteenth nationally ranked player. Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Now I have some stats here too. From his high
school sophomore year basketball scored one hundred and sixty four points,
eighteen dunks, one shattered backboard, fourteen tackles, And that's why
they asked him to move to football.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Dude, think about going from never touching a football to
the sixteenth ranked prospect in a sport that everybody desperately
wishes they were a prospect in in two years. Like
that's I think they should take the Jalen Redmond story
and show it to you know, when a bunch of
eighth graders are going to play basketball or football for
(19:02):
the first time, they should set everybody down and go,
ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to talk about Jalen Redman
and they should tell all this and then they go.
So when you get mad at your coach for not
playing your son correctly, which by the way, he's just
a dad and he's volunteering, when you do that, I
want you to ask yourself yes, could my kids start
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playing football at sixteen and be a nationally ranked recruit
by eighteen? And if your answer is no, maybe take
a breath, change your tone, and refocus.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Because this high school was in Oklahoma, so many dads
had to be screaming about this basketball player turned football
player starting to get all these things and then after
one game. This is my impersonation of so many dads
in Oklahoma. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
He so he goes to college. He ends up having
a medical issue in college. Carol Levin, I believe did
a really great story on this. But he doesn't get drafted,
right despite his combine. It's like he has the second
best forty yard dash time among interior defensive lineman's second
best ten yard split, and the best broad jump and
(20:20):
vertical jump. Like he's an off the charts athlete and
he's still Oh, by the way, only been playing football
significantly less than a decade, so he's undrafted, signs with
the Panthers, plays in the XFL. Everybody knows this part
of the story. But man, it's not that I like,
I'm not focusing on him because I want to focus
on the fact that he's been good. I'm focusing on
(20:44):
him because I think guys like that who learns so
quickly and becomes So what's he going to look like
in two years? I don't think he's at a ceiling
are you? Are you all of a sudden going what
have we found ourselves here? And with the way I
think Donovan Jackson is played on the offensive line, the
whole talk in the off season was we've got to
fix the trenches. We got to fix the interior trenches.
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And they went and got a couple of big name
free agents on both sides, and then I think the
Donovan Jackson draft pick, even though it was a number
one pick, and this Jalen Redman thing which happened the
year before, they kind of flew under the radar. And
right now, if you're looking at the future of those interiors,
I feel really good about it because I think both
these guys have a chance to be incredible studs. We
(21:29):
should move to the game preview. We should do that
part of the show, because that is I could have
just talked I could have just talked Jalen Redmond the
whole time, but we do have to preview the game.
That's an important part of our job. Okay, one thing
I'm really looking forward to this weekend. Justin Jefferson. He
passed last Sunday Tory Holt to climb to number two
(21:51):
on the list of most receiving yards in a player's
first six seasons. He only needs one hundred and ninety
seven to pass Randy Moss and come number one. Everybody
else is either on this list in the top five.
I mean, you're talking it's Randy Moss, Tory Holt, Jerry Rice,
Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, we're already, We're already to the prediction segment because
I think he's getting it Sunday. So the uh, I
think the interesting thing about it, The thing I like
about it is now that they play seventeen games, it
can be kind of baked and you're like, well, he's
that gay all the extra games, but with one hundred
(22:32):
and ninety seven to go, it's feasibly could break it
in the next couple and that shortens that, Like it's
not like he needed the extra games. He's just breaking
the record purely based upon breaking the record. So it's
kind of wild that we have, you know, in our lifetimes,
we have got to have Randy Moss and Justin Jefferson
(22:53):
and Chris Carter.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
It's pretty it's pretty strange. It's pretty great.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
J Let me let me tell you this. So Chris
Carter was at the game and they were talking to
him about Vikings Bears matchups, and he's down on the field.
They go, so what do you think about the Chicago
Bears and he goes, I gotta tell you I love
the Bears. Without the Bears, I wouldn't be in the
Hall of Fame. And the place goes crazy. It was
such a good line, and it's exactly what everyone needed
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because we were tense.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Let me give you two things to feel good about,
and then let's do our prediction. Okay, okay, Aaron Jones
is returning to Lambeau. This is take two for that
journey last year. Pretty good. Week four twenty two. Carries
ninety three yards, four receptions forty six yards. He's done
(23:42):
very well against the Packers on the whole, with one
hundred and forty total rushing yards seventy six receiving yards.
But in addition, our wide receivers have done exception really well.
Jefferson and Addison combined four in week four one hundred
and fifty seven yards and two touchdowns, and then Jefferson,
Addison and Naylor in Week sixteen combined for two hundred
(24:06):
and forty two yards and two touchdowns. So this is
a This is a group of weapons that has had
success against the Packers. And if for no other reason
that I have a bunch of unfinished trash talk chats
in my phone right now, hm, I would love to
(24:27):
see that continue. What do you got for prediction score is? Uh?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Listen, I'm gonna tell you something. I got up at
three point thirty in the morning to fly home from Washington,
DC to watch the same mistakes being made over and
over and never taking a chance to fix them. I'm
going Viking six Packers three. I'm in a negative headspace
right now.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
You're in a negative headspace. I actually I am in a
little bit of a negative headspace too. I'm gonna go
I also think the Packers are going to score three
Vikings one hundred and twenty seven. And I think this
is a breakout week for my boy Jalen Redmond. I
highlighted him on the show. And then if he does breakout,
(25:12):
I mean he's already broken up. But I'm like, oh,
he has like a monster game, and if that happens,
I will convince myself that I played a role in it,
and then we might have to do a player segment
highlight thing on every show. Because I deal with obsessive
compulsive disorder and I believe in a lot of silly stuff.
I'm very superstitious those aren't the same thing. I just
happened to have both of them coexisting in my brain.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
For my player prediction, I'm gonna go Aaron Jones gets
a Lambeau Leap Purple Edition Purple E discion.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Are you when was the last time you were at
a game in Lambeau? Was it that one you got
boot at? Or have you been to one since I.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Went to one? Since? So my uncle, who my great uncle,
he ended up he had the high school rushing record
in Green Bay for I think into the nineties. And
this is my great uncle, and so when he was little,
he used to sneak in to practice under a fence
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all him and his friends could watch. And it was
just just this really cool, really cool experience to get
to bring him to a Packer game, and it was
it was the game that Adrian Peterson ran wild on them,
so it was really really fun to see. But I've
got to bring him into the little museum, the Packer
(26:37):
Hall of Fame, and he started crying and I was like, oh,
this dude was tough. So it was it was a
really interesting fun moment. So the juxtaposition of having that
chant happen at one game with my buddies and then
getting to watch this guy like really have a great
time was very fun.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Here's what I think. Should let me give you a
pitch because we're both in a little bit of a
negative headspace and I'd like to push us into a
positive headspace. So clearly that's my NonStop goal. Here's my pitch. Okay,
I think if and when they allow us to keep
doing this show next year, which I can't imagine why
anyone would, given who you and I are as like
(27:18):
people like the closer they let us, the more insane
we become. But I think I think Chatty Daddy Insie
recording from Lambeau next year. Yeah, sure, we'll do it
on the fan absolutely will help with the pregame show.
How about you have the We're the you know how
(27:39):
you wake up and you're like, what time's Colin Coward on.
But there's that other show that's on in the morning
that keeps switching, like the Breakfast Ball or whatever. Give us,
make us breakfast Ball to the pregame show. Put Cy
and Chatty Daddy out in Lambeau and let's just see
what comes back.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah not Chad and Si we don't come back, and
body Bags made.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Thanks again Chad for being here. Thanks all of you
for listening to the show on our podcast. Fend that
needs a ton while you're here, give it a review
like if you haven't done that. Finally, a huge shout
out to Ticketmaster, the official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings,
for helping make this show happen. Enjoy the game, everybody,
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