September 1, 2025 • 64 mins
Episode 9 – Beth Green | Love, Family & Breaking CyclesIn this heartfelt episode, Jacob sits down with his wife, Beth Green, for a raw and unfiltered conversation about life, love, and resilience. Beth opens up about her upbringing, becoming a young mother, and the struggles of navigating difficult relationships before finding her way to stability and growth.
Together, Jacob and Beth reflect on their marriage, raising kids, the balance between sobriety and a partner who drinks, and the challenges—and humor—that come with building a life together. From breaking generational cycles to celebrating small victories, Beth’s story is one of strength, honesty, and hope.
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What's up everybody? September 27th is St.
Vibes in Reno, NV and I don't know about you guys but I miss
the way it used to be in downtown Reno.
Bikes lining the streets. It was an event and people would
come out. Well we're trying to bring that
back with the Baddest Little Bike show at Revision Brewery
come out September 27th. At Revision we've got to FXR,
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Bagger Club style Beat, gloss chopper, metric cars, vendors,
trophies, giveaways, surprise guests and more.
There is nowhere else to be on Saturday.
St. Vibes then Revision Brewing for
the baddest little bike show. Come check it out, grab your
drink. I did.
Oh, let me grab my drink. I.
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Just don't even know why you want me on here.
Yeah, the arsonist had oddly shaped feet.
Ow now, brown cow? I'm here with tits McGee.
And Tits McGee is on vacation. I am Veronica Corningstone.
Yeah, how's your day going, baby?
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I don't know, I'm a little nervous.
Why? Because I don't usually talk on
things like this ever. A little bit closer, you're
good. Sorry.
There we go, Subscribe to our only Fans.
I don't have one. He's a liar.
So where did you grow up, baby? I was born in San Diego, CA and
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I grew up in Oceanside for a little and then we moved to
Claremont and then we came to this beautiful town Reno, NV
that has no beaches or anything that is like California.
Totally landlocked, but it's allyou can eat.
Sushi though. This is true.
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And me and my best friend very much enjoyed that aspect.
But yeah, we came here and it probably honestly was the best
decision ever because I met my husband here and I had my babies
here. Yeah.
And if I would have never left that shit hole San Diego, then
yeah, he wouldn't have met you. And.
Where'd you go to school? I went to North Valleys.
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Yeah, home of the Panthers, I. You're a.
You're a North Valleys girl through and through.
Absolutely Valley girl through and through VS.
Yeah. So what do you think about what
we're doing here? I think it's really cool.
I'm actually very, very proud ofyou.
I think it's really awesome because you have, I've watched
you help so many people throughout the last 11 years
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that we've been together. I've watched you help families
get back together. I've watched a lot of really
great things happen, you know? You've also seen me start about
seven other businesses. This is true.
I've seen you be many men in many moons, but all of those men
I think needed to happen in order for you to be this man who
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I I think that this is who you're always supposed to be.
This like bad ass biker daddy who also is working on the
railroad which that makes me really proud because I know my
grandpa is really proud of you too.
Yeah. And yeah, your grandpa, when he
gave me that job, he definitely gave me a career, that's for
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sure. You know what I mean?
Hold on. One SEC is it is good.
Yeah. You know, he definitely gave me
a he definitely gave me a career.
Yeah. I I when I met you I had a was
working at a car dealership and making OK money but it was a
little shady that whole thing. Well, yeah, you spend also your
whole paycheck to buy me a firstthe very first time you met me.
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Yeah. Which was really really.
Yeah, you were the first white girl I'd ever dated.
Absolutely. Yeah, that was cool.
And you had slid just to set therecord straight.
You set slid into my DMS. OK, I did, because I listen.
Yeah, I was a lonely lady and you were speaking poetry on the
Internet and for a what? How old are you?
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Like 22? I never heard a 22 year old even
write something like that, so that's why I had to write.
Did you get this on the Internetor is this really you talking?
But it was worth it that I wroteyou.
You've put up with a lot of bullshit over the years and I, I
appreciate you and I appreciate you being the kind of wife
that's I'm able to explore thesethings and do these things and
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try to dip my toes and things and you just being supportive.
That's all you can ask for. You know what I mean?
That's cuz I think that you are capable of a lot of cool things.
You're a very cool person, you know, You don't give yourself
enough credit either. I mean I'm a really cool ass
person, don't get me wrong, but.Yeah, you're pretty cool.
Yeah, you made me cool in a lot of ways too.
You know what I mean? For sure, and I told you how to
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dance a little bit better too. Yeah, You're, you're you.
Yeah. Thank you.
Yeah, I probably won't be doing that anytime soon, but yeah.
So what was what was it like growing up having a kid and
knowing it wasn't going to work out with his father?
Was that a lonely time in your life?
Yes, because I come from a very strict Catholic households.
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We're talking we're talking generations upon generations of
women who stayed because that's what God tells you to do and
that's what the right thing is. I mean, my great grandmother had
to ask the Catholic Church to get on birth control after her
four. I'm I'm sorry, excuse me.
She had 12 children, but 14 if God would have allowed.
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These are her words. So when you come from a
background of thinking like, no matter what, once you decide to
have a family with somebody likeyou stick it out with them.
You roll through, you put up with what you need to put up
with because your child is supposed to have a mother and
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father. But I in my situation, I was
very young. I was 19 when I met his dad and
he was 16 years older than me. And I'm not saying you cannot
find love through age gaps. That's not true.
You can find the right partner for yourself regardless of the
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age. I'm just saying more often than
not, there is some type of predatory thing at hand there.
And in my situation, I'm not saying that he was a predator,
I'm just saying I was way too young.
He was way too old and. What do you even have in common?
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Everybody knew that but me. And I think too, I was in a time
in my life where I wanted to rebel.
I wanted a party. I was working at a nightclub.
I was having that time in my life.
I was making hand over fist money like crazy.
I was sleeping all day, partyingall night.
It was fun. It was cool.
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He was this older guy. We were having fun together.
He was to me, in my eyes, every bit of his story.
He, it was real. And so it was like, oh, he's
this cool guy. He's like all his cool doors are
going to open for me. Well, that's like the part when
you're 19 and you're not really realizing, like you don't have
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anything in common with this person.
And it's very much not real. As the relationship went on, I
actually tried to, I tried to run away.
I did. I, I ran to my grandparents in
San Diego and I left. I quit my job at the pepper mill
and I went to San Diego and I got a new job.
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My aunt got me a job, which I'm sorry I ruined that.
I'm sorry about that. But you know, I was dumb and I I
tried to forget. I tried to move forward.
I tried to forget about him. Sometimes in those
relationships, when you are thatyoung and impressionable by an
older person and the love bombing is so real, you just,
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you fold no matter what. And I mean, I had him locked.
I, I everything, but no matter what, he still could get to me.
He still was talking to me. And one of my biggest, you know,
regrets, not regrets, but one ofthe things I'm most sad I ever
did was I left in the middle of the night.
I didn't tell my grandparents where I was going.
I packed up all of my things by myself.
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I'll never forget it. I packed a entire bookcase.
I carried it out of the house without them even knowing.
And I, I feel so sad that I did that because all they wanted to
do was help me. Wonderful people.
And I left and I drove myself the 11 hours back home to Reno
by myself and I had $110 in gas money.
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And I came back and I started living with my best friend and
my parents were pretty, you know, sad, but they were happy.
I was home, obviously, but they knew why I came back and I went
right back to him and I proceeded to date him.
And within a year, I was pregnant and we were living in
this terrible house that had no heat, had no fucking air.
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It was awful. I was nine months pregnant.
And, you know, it was really setting in that like this
relationship is just not, it's not going to be what I think,
but I need to stick it out because I'm pregnant now.
I got to have this baby and I got to make this work.
And you know, as time went forward, we moved into other
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homes. We kept, I kept trying to put
this facade on that like everything was going to be
great. I'm just going to keep pushing
forward everything. And he just was very he.
I think I aged out because that is what happens.
I became 23. I was a mother.
I took it seriously and I don't think it was ever going to.
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I don't think in his mind he thought it was ever going to be
that serious. And you know, for him, this is
what was to be done and it. Brought you the best.
It did. It gave me the best experience,
the best gift. It made me.
I always say cash is my little savior.
He saved my life. He made me become a mother, be
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the best version of myself that I could possibly be in that
moment anyway. He gave me purpose.
He nurtured my young heart because I needed that.
I needed real love. And I'm not saying have a baby
and that's how you'll find real love.
But sometimes in those situations, that kid, it
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nurtures you in a way that you will never, ever be nurtured by
anybody else. It makes you feel whole.
And that's what happened for me.And then when I was finally, you
know, so much had gone on in ourrelationship that I didn't even
know about because I was. So I put my blinders on so much.
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But it didn't matter what was happening, what he did outside
of our home, whatever. I just needed to keep this unit
together. That's all my kid needs, a dad,
whatever kind of version he wants to give.
And that's what I'm going to do.And when I finally said I was
done, I packed up all my things and we left and I moved back in
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with my parents and I got my jobback at Macy's and I started
doing makeup again. And I met you and I was, you
know, single for about two years.
And that was a great time for mebecause I got to be with my boy.
And yeah, I, I grew up in so many ways that everything that
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became, that was always important became the forefront
of what I was supposed to do. And, you know, I still make tons
of mistakes. I still went out, I still drank,
I still gotten into fights with people and what have you.
But I know at the end of the day, my best thing that I've
ever done is be a mom. And I know that I'm a, I know in
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my heart that I'm a good mom and.
There's not a lot of things thatpeople can say.
They do things perfectly, but I think the only thing that I know
you've done perfect is be a mom that's real.
Thank you, baby. You do that better.
Sometimes, though, I just want to.
Sure. And then so you had cash when we
met. And he's also the reason you and
me broke up one time. Yes, you dumped me.
I did. And block me, I did you dirty
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bitch. Yeah, I was also 20.
You were also when you have a kid, you grow up, you grow up a
lot faster and you're a lot older than me all.
Right, let's just clarify something here.
She's a year older than me. I I was born October 10th, 1991,
and this man was born in December of 92.
Yeah, A. Whole lot of time.
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One year and get off of it. Yeah, we watched totally
different cartoons, OK. You loved Rocket Power.
Yeah, OK, so you, you met and you had this kid and I, still a
woman with a child at 23, is light years of maturity beyond a
22 year old man, even though I was sober, but still light years
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beyond my maturity level. And, you know, we were hanging
out and you're that little boy called me dad for the first time
and that freaked me the fuck out.
And I was also brand new to sobriety.
I hadn't worked in a sober program.
I was just sober. And it was, you know, it was a
scary thing. You know, he called, he called
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me Dad. And, you know, I just, I just
don't think I was, I was ready. You know what I mean?
I know. And you know, I didn't, I mean,
I didn't think that you were ready either when he said it.
I, my butthole buckered a littlebit because I was like, damn,
that might be the end there, which it was.
But in a way, I think that was also like a kind of good thing
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for us because you had to have that time.
You had to really like, like your dad, I'm sure.
I mean, your dad was probably just as nervous.
That's why like me and your mom,like we like, we are one in that
sense. Like we wanted those men for our
sons. We wanted real men for our sons,
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people that like you came in when you finally, when we
finally got back together, like you had been a you have been a
full blown dad to that boy sincethe moment that we have gone
back together. And I think that, you know, like
you said, it was new. You were new to everything.
You also just like still were recovering from a severe
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accident and like it, I was living light years beyond what
you were able to take in at that.
Point even the capacity of knowledge.
About. Life experience was not even the
same. Yeah.
But you caught up. I did catch up.
And here's what's wild about that whole thing is when would
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that when that whole first thingwent down.
This is so funny now, but I had no semblance of what a higher
power or a or a faith or anything like that was, you know
what I mean? So it was, it was a very
different thing for me, you knowwhat I mean?
Oh, tell us. Asked to wait.
Tell him I said, wait, anyway, Ihad no semblance of a higher
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power. I didn't know what that looked
like. I had no idea about any of this,
you know. And we broke up and somebody at
a meeting was talking about the meaning of life.
And the meaning of life to him was to have a family and to like
that day. Where your last day comes is
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simply how many people that you've loved in that room.
And that was right after we had broken up.
And I was like, what the fuck isthe meaning of life if not to be
a father? And it's so funny that that
bothered me so much when I literally had a dad that adopted
me and did the exact same thing.And it was like the other thing
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somebody said. That meeting was like giving
away what was freely given to you.
And I had a dad and I lucked outand he taught me everything.
He taught me how to be a man. He taught me music, He taught me
all these things. About a baseball.
Yeah, baseball and how to run. How to how to how to.
Yeah. How to be an athlete, you know,
And you know, I would have not had that if he didn't step up.
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And I here I am being a coward. You know what I mean?
And it was like, no, that that you like that girl, you love
that girl. That's what you need to do.
You need to shut the fuck up. You need to figure it out.
And I feel like that's been the theme of pretty much the last 10
years of our lives is you need to just shut the fuck up and
love this girl and just figure it the fuck out.
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You know what I mean? And that was, I just want you to
know, of all the crazy things that we've gone through in the
last 10 years, that was the bestdecision I ever made in my
entire life to this point. You hear that, people?
That's on the. It's on the Internet now, so.
Well, that was one of the best decisions I ever made either, so
don't worry. So I'm curious what it's like
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being a normal person who can drink and enjoy stuff like that
and being with a guy who's sober.
What is that like for you? Because I know that's not easy
and I know that there's things you you probably couldn't do if
we were both drinking. What is it?
What is that like for you? You can be candid.
You always got someone driving you home safely.
That's. For Oh OK, you just married your
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DD. For sure.
Baby, thanks. For always getting my ass home
safe. No, but it like when we first
started dating, I was so nervousto like drink around you,
especially because like you were, you know, freshly sober
too. And I remember your mom told me,
your mom said, honey, this is what they need.
This is their thing. They chose us.
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They know what we are and they know what we do and we're not
because you want to enjoy a glass of wine or you want to go
out with your girlfriends and drink or go out with your
husband and have drinks. You know, they're not here to
judge you. They're here judging themselves.
And 'cause I remember, like I wouldn't, your mom would like,
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offer me a glass of wine or something.
And I felt like nervous, you know, 'cause I just didn't know,
like what the. I was new to your family and I
wanted your family to love me and like me so much.
And I remember your mom said that they're sober.
We're not sober. And they like us for who we are.
Oh. For sure and I like that you
have drinks and do it normally. So I mean, sometimes, yes, of
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course I can. I can get a little rowdy, which
I won't lie, we've had some goodtimes, some good fights with
that. But I think for the most part
I'm a pretty. I get, I'm fun, I hope, but.
I feel like also being with you,it does actually make me like
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check myself a little more just because like, I don't want to
just, you know, get hammered drunk all the time, but.
So you're a little more cognizant to your drink.
Yeah, and I think too, like I'm not, I don't get that 20 year
old liver anymore, you know? And I'm not out here to just
like get hammered drunk and thengo off.
But, and if everyone knows me, then you all know that I like to
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have a good time to give me a ride.
I'm the first girl to throw the ones on the strip club.
But I think that being with you,it does it kind of because I do.
I mean, my family, all of us, weall, I've been around, you know,
drinking my whole life and stufflike that.
But like, I always want to be able to check myself because I
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don't want my kids to think that, you know, oh, mom's just
having a great time all the timeand like getting super hammered
all the time. I don't want that.
But I do think that when me and you go out, it's nice that my
husband, you're not sitting in judgement of me.
You're letting me enjoy myself because nine times out of 10, I
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am at home. I am making sure that our kids
are right. I'm making sure that you're
right. I'm making sure that when you're
out of town, I'm running our household right.
And so I feel like. And that's a foreign language to
people like us, right? We don't know what that looks
like. We don't even know what that
means. We can't fathom what that is.
And of course, every partner of a alcoholic is always wondering
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if they're drinking too much. And that's always a normal theme
among people. And the you're just normal, you
know what I mean? And it's, and it's a, but that's
a foreign concept to people who have what we have, right?
You know what I mean? We don't understand what it's
like to maintain your home and do all these things.
And that's why it's, it's and it's not your responsibility to
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change who you are because we'resober.
The only responsibility you haveis to make sure that you're not
making it harder for. Me no, absolutely.
And like, I feel like definitelyover the course of our lives,
like I can be completely honest,I know I've probably made it
hard for you, honey. And I feel like those are the
times though, when I like can get that reality check and be
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like, yo, bitch, why are you acting like that?
Like, why are you doing that? You are grown woman.
You got responsibilities, you got kids, you got school to take
care of. You got to get up in the
morning, You know, like don't bewho you know that you shouldn't
be and who you don't want to be.And so I think too, I'm I'm
grateful that I'm grateful that our kids have never seen you
drink. I'm grateful that I know the
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person that you were and I know every single thing about you,
but I love the person that I've got to be with throughout our
life together. Like, I'm grateful for that
because it also, and kind of, I guess a selfish, weird way to
say it, allows me to be who I want to be, you know?
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Do you feel like that's I feel like you've become more of
yourself than any other time in our.
Lives. Oh, absolutely.
Do you feel like that? You've made me feel like.
You got to be yourself. Yeah.
And I think. And I feel like I've succeeded
as a husband. You know, I think too, I mean,
when we first got together and you broke up with me, I think I
was so heartbroken because I, for the first time in my whole
life, you've made me feel like Iwas seen.
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You know, you saw me and you didn't judge me and you didn't
think I was just this crazy girlwho just was, you know?
No, I just thought what the fuckis this hot girl doing talking
to me? Because my problem is I like
girls that like me back. And the fact that you like me
back was dope. You know what I mean?
That was pretty fucking. Well, then you didn't like me
back and that was hurtful. But you know, it's fine.
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But no, I think honestly, I'm grateful because like, you've
made me more confident in who I can be.
And I think I've only gotten like better with just anything
really. I feel like you just allowed me
to be myself. And yes, there has been times
where you're like, hey, take it easy because I don't want to
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carry your ass home or you're going to fall off the bike while
we're driving back. But for the most part, you're
pretty rad Rad Daddy, that's forsure.
We had two more beautiful kids together, you know?
Right out of here. Who's your favorite?
My favorite who is whoever needsmy attention at that moment.
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OK, well, Layla's my favorite. God Dang it.
I knew you were going to say that.
She's pretty cool. Yeah, I know.
I. Just got to love him different.
I think that is yes, like we all, we love our children the
way that they need to be loved. For sure.
Judy is our. Don't tell.
Don't call him sensitive. Aw, he, just like his daddy,
just got a lot of feelings sometimes.
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I'm a man. You are a man and Judy's a man.
Yeah, Judy's a man. And bit like his daddy too,
yeah. Yeah, he's a big.
Town and Layla is she needs morea little bit more discipline
because she's a little bit of sass, but not with you because
you just say. Well, I think, I think with
boys, it's my job to raise motherfuckers.
It's you want them to be like that, you know what I mean?
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No, I think they need to be motherfuckers, especially in the
time of the world today. I think they need to be able to
grow up to be young men. And I think that's my role.
And I think your role is to teach her how to be a girl.
Because I don't know what the fuck that means.
I don't know what. That means either.
Well, it's OK. You're doing a good job.
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And I think, Layla, I get to just be like, whatever you want,
baby, you know what I mean? No, I.
Do love that. I mean, I always knew, like when
I was pregnant with her, I just always was so excited because I
knew she was just going to be like the stars in your eyes.
And she does look at you like that.
And it makes me so happy becauseshe just.
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My favorite thing to hear is when you pull up from a week's
work of Working Hard Daddy is. That is my favorite too.
That definitely makes it all good.
And what's funny about that is they.
Never say that when I come home.They do, they do, Layla does,
and they all do. It's all Mommy.
I want juice. Yeah, that's true.
I'm a juice bitch for life. Yeah, and I didn't.
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And and yeah, when you told me you were pregnant with Layla, I
fucking did not want to have a third kid.
I was fucking scared. No girls.
I did not want to have and then she ended up.
Guess what? If you're a witch, tap into a
witch power because it's real. Yeah, you love it.
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Down here, we had some fun timesdown here, some really fun
things I like when I like seeingin the early mornings, like when
we have to come down here for stuff like when you guys are
like we're going to head out forthe day or whatever.
When the pimps do the check insurance.
You guys listen to me. Come on.
Yeah, it's fun times down here. Definitely out here yelling at
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each other. That's so I want to ask you what
is your biggest turn ONS from methat you that is like not a
normal turn on bullshit. Probably like, what do you like
when I cry? I do like when you cry.
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That gets me going, dude. Sometimes, like sometimes it's
so rare, sometimes in fights, like it was just getting too bad
and I don't have anything else to say, I'll just start crying
and then I know it'll end. Because like.
Yeah, he's a freak. He's just.
Sleepy. Yeah.
Gets me going. No, no, I meant like mowing the
lawn. Like what is it?
Oh, yeah, I love when you do them all in.
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I love when you're outside working.
It's a good time. What other things do I enjoy?
Oh, I love when like you surprised me because your
surprise is like, I guess like throughout my whole entire like
dating experience. I didn't really have great
boyfriends by the way, but I never had like any men like
surprise me and like you actually give me like goosebump
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surprises. Like I remember the first.
Time. I'm not nice, but I'll buy you
whatever you. Want shut up.
Like, well, I mean, this was, I guess, the materialistic, but I
remember the first time when youbought that Cadillac and you
picked me up from Doctor Young'soffice.
I just remember like, I hadn't had any, OK?
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Mind you every boyfriend I ever had either crashed my car or
like I had to buy them a new caror like the last one I signed a
paper that I thought the car wasmine but they all tricked me and
the car was his. And so when I left the
relationship I thought I got thecar and they were like Nah
you're a dumb bitch. And so like when you, you've
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done things to dramatically change my life to make it easier
for me. And like, that is what I'm so
appreciative of. And it is little things.
It's like the fact that I get tosleep in an extra hour just
because, you know, like, I ain'tno morning girl.
I'm sorry. I want to be, but I'm a night
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out and I'll fold all the laundry until 1:00 in the
morning and it'll be sparkling clean, but I'm not a morning
girl. And so it's little.
It's things like that, honestly,like turn me on because I'm
like, damn that man. He got me my cup of coffee, he
let me sleep in the extra hour. So, well, let's get you.
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One of the things that we've been talking about is growing up
here. Do you think growing up in Reno
had an impact on my life, on abuse, or do you think that that
was more just something that wasdestined to happen?
Like abuse, like drug, like alcohol and drug abuse.
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Oh, I'm sorry, you don't know any of the lingo because you're
normal. Well, I'm thinking views like
you know. What?
She's papers? Yeah, like there's a new study
out. There, take a walk down memory
lane. No Beth.
Beth watches an insane amount ofcrime podcasts because.
Murder mysteries? You guys should educate
yourselves, OK? And it's not real life.
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It is. But there's a study out now that
says that watching those crime shows and those crime podcasts
makes you more depressed. What do you think about that?
I don't think so. OK, well, I just made it up.
Yeah. I know you have.
You've been telling me for six months and I've been fucking
looking that facts up and there is no facts about that.
That's. Fucking annoying.
I know, but you know what? I'm my head's on a swivel, OK?
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But Jesus Christ, well, that show makes it sound like
everybody. On this item.
OK, I'll get plucked out of a Walmart with my kids in a
minute. I need to be able to how to talk
those killers out of not killingme.
You know, they probably honestlywould they'd.
Kick your ass out of the van. They would 5 minutes, they'd
hear your whole life story and your ass would be out the van.
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It would not be long before theykicked you out.
Yeah, you'd be OK, I think. Yeah.
No, I think. I would be OK.
I think you'd be totally fine. So if there's a new one that's
out there wanting to try it. Yeah, Jesus Christ.
Yeah Kitty so but no, I think that honestly, yes, I don't
think that I don't think that it's necessarily here Reno yes,
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I think that the 24 hour partying is super super
attractive to kids who especially like want to already
get fucked up. I mean it was attractive to me.
I, when I first like, realized that like, yeah, like people
just like I'm here like all the time.
Like mind you, I came from San Diego.
So when I first came up here, like it was hard for me to like
kind of make friends because like, I'm, I went to my first
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day in 6th grade with an Avril Lavigne tie on, OK.
Like, I thought I was like, cool.
And I remember my, my, my best friend, she gave up to me the
first day. She goes, dude, what the fuck
are you wearing? And so it was different like
from here versus San Diego. But like, I think that you guys
are definitely so much more exposed to like having it
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accessible here. Like I remember the very first
time I ever bought alcohol, I was 15 and all I had to do was
walk into this gas station or this liquor store and I
literally told him, Oh yeah, I just got my ID.
It's going to come in the mail. And he just like, here's a
bottle of Jaeger, like boom. And so it's very much like easy
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for it's harder in like talking to even my cousins that grew up
in San Diego, like they had to like do the panhandling thing
like outside asking people like,Hey, can you buy me some booze?
Because like it wasn't like that.
And here it's very much accessible.
So I could understand why. And then it also is like you
background and like you wanted. To there might have been a
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genetic part. Yeah, too, I think definitely.
But like you felt, I think just from talking to you and like
learning about you and knowing you, like from what your parents
have told me and stuff like you felt no matter that you had a
wonderful dad, the best dad ever, you still felt lost.
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Like you felt different. And you were trying to like,
feel that you wanted to be accepted.
Just like every kid. You wanted to be seen.
And that's why I did it. I mean, I wanted to be that cool
party girl. I wanted to be the cool girl
with the cool car, always had a bottle and had a hookah.
And I was like. Yeah, yeah, you're so cool,
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dude. Well, that's what we were doing.
I mean, and so I get it, Like I that's why I was doing it, but
it just, I guess I wasn't, I wasso afraid of turning into
certain things that I had seen that I was like so afraid of
getting in trouble too. Like I had already gotten like
mics and then I was like stealing my car with no license
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like a dipshit and driving around hammered.
Like am I going to get in trouble for that?
No, we're way past the statute of limitations.
Yeah, you're good. Go for.
That but so you know, like I didreally stupid shit, but then I
realized like fuck, I'm going toget in like a lot more trouble
if I get like another ticket. And I think like that's where
like the fuck it comes in is like your fuck.
It went like fuck it, I don't care.
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I don't care what I do and I'm just going to be this bad little
Mamma jamma. And I like pretended to be like
I was still doing bad things, but I wasn't.
There was still that fear. Yeah, maybe we the kids is a
little rough down here. It's just more editing at the
end, but it's fine. You know what I mean?
Yeah, now they're not going to sleep.
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Another night. What's 1 of the hardest things
about me being sober to you? Because I'm sure there's some.
I think sometimes it's not Even so much that it's hard, it's
that I feel like a, a sense of guilt because even though you
don't express it all the time or, or what have you, but I feel
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like I don't know how to supportyou in certain things.
Like just because I'm not sober,Like even you know, like like I
know this isn't just about Friday or whatever, but like I
just, I feel like almost bad because I don't share the same
sentiments. As same disease, yeah, no, you
and you never need to feel. And so I think like, you know,
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when I, I want to be around all of your guys's stuff, and then
sometimes I feel like awkward because I'm not sober.
And then I feel like, oh, I'm like Jacob's big shitbag.
Life is drinking. And, and like, these are all
these great people that are changing their lives.
And you know, I feel like a sense of guilt because I don't
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know how to get on that level with you.
And I like support you. I want you to always, you know,
be sober. It's the greatest thing for you
and for our lives. But like you.
Could just equate it to a room full of people with an incurable
disease that you don't have. You don't need to feel guilty
about not having the same disease as the rest of.
Us. I know it's.
We're all envious. Yeah, well, I, I can understand.
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I just so, you know, like that's, I kind of feel like that
or like, you know, there have been times where I'm like the
only one drinking that's something.
And I'm like, OK, well, I'm sorry, it's a Saturday and it's
been a long week for me. So like, I'm going to have a
couple of cocktails at this BBQ,but like I but it's only because
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like you're sitting there like no relax, like have enjoy
yourself. You can enjoy yourself in the
way that you want to just like we can.
But like, yeah, there's always that little bit of guilt where
I'm like, I feel bad and I'm like, I'm sorry.
I'm I'm sorry, but. And I hate when people are
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looking at me or trying to talk to me or be around me.
So it's better when you're beingthe center of attention.
So I'm OK and I can just watch everybody.
Yeah. So I just put on the show that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's great.
Yeah, Yeah, you are definitely, we are definitely opposites in a
lot of things. You are definitely the
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extrovert, and that's one of themost, that's one of the things I
love about you. If we were two introverted
people, we would never leave thehouse.
My defense mechanism. It is, yeah.
Yeah, you didn't. Have.
You had a rough childhood and you do you definitely what the
thing about you that I commend the most is you had a rough,
(37:42):
rough childhood. And if you explained it to
anyone else, they would absolutely understand and agree.
And what you've done is your best to break the cycle and not
have you just be an absolute rock star of a mom where the
things that you experienced in your life growing up are never
going to be the same for our children.
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You. Did an amazing thing.
I will not and you will not. So we are, you know, different.
And I mean, I also had a great childhood.
I had a lot of, I have a lot of love.
I have great memories. I had great times.
It's just, you know, sometimes people, no matter if you're an
adult or not, you go through things and sometimes kids are
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there to go through with you. And one thing I'm always trying
to do is like, especially with Cash, like, you know, they
always say you're first born, especially if you're a young
mother, they grow up with you. And that's hard.
And I know my son Cash has grownup with me and seen me grow up.
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And, and there's so many things that like to this day, I feel
guilty for and awful for that mom guilt will eat you alive
sometimes. But I also know that I would cut
my arm off to feed my children at the end of the day.
And I know that everything I've done for Cash and for our other
children, obviously, but you know, Cash and me, like that kid
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kept me right. He kept me right in my mind.
He kept me right in my heart. And it was hard.
It was hard to love something so, so much and then realize
that this person does not share the same sentiment as you and to
not see how important it was. And then I would have these bats
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of just feeling like I wanted tojust run away.
And I feel like cash. He'd never deserve to see that.
But at the same time, he is, he is so emotionally mature.
He's so emotionally aware of other people.
And maybe some people think that's not a good thing.
Maybe they do. But I think it's a great thing.
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I think it's a great thing to raise children that are
emotionally aware of themselves and other people.
And you know, my son, he's, he'sbeen like my Little Rock and
Judy. He's my little sweet boy.
He makes me feel centered. And Layla, she makes me giggle
and she's just like me, a littleSpitfire.
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But I think that. Cashy just, he made me realize
I'm never going to be what I hadexperienced because I'm never
going to put that load on him. It's not right.
Children deserve to be children.And even when they grow up and
become adults, even when they grow up and become adults, they
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are still going to probably break your heart, but they'll
break your heart in good ways and bad ways.
And as a parent, you have to love them through it because
that's what you decide when you decide to become a parent.
You decide to put put aside youremotional baggage, your
emotional feelings, your lack oflove or what have you that you
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experienced as a child. And you decide to give forth
everything you have to make thatkids life excel and be better
than whatever you experience. That's all that's.
And that's all that's ever supposed to be done is.
I want my daughter to be better than me.
I want her to be a goddamn doctor.
I want her to shit on men and never have to care about anyone.
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I do. I want her.
To He is going to play softball and she.
No, she's not. She's going to be everything
that. She what are the what are the
nuns wear? What are nun things?
Stop. What are those called?
You're a Catholic. What is it?
Habits. She's going.
I'm going to start dressing her.Absolutely not.
But my point is this, I want my children to be everything that I
never did. And that's the whole point of
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life to me is I put these babieson here and I want them to get
everything they can out of this world.
That's the best thing you can doas a parent.
You're doing a great fucking joband you teach me every fucking
day what patience means. You know what I mean?
And I appreciate. It thank you for letting me have
my freak outs in the bathroom. Yeah, well, you get to do drugs.
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You're cool. I smoke marijuana, people, OK?
My wife is a drug addict. Just kidding, she smokes weed
everyday. And it makes me a better person.
God, God damn. Yeah.
And he would agree. Pumped when it got legalized.
Fuck, yeah, Yeah. It was like, yes.
You didn't have to go to that sketchy dude's house anymore.
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I mean, it sucks, you know, it'sweird.
You want to get out of there. They just want to hang out.
It's just like that movie. Like they just want to like,
chill for a minute. They want to show you the other
drugs that you don't want. And you're just like, fuck,
dude, I came here for an eighth.What the fuck are we talking
about now? Cool, yeah.
So. OK, so I got some questions I
want to ask you. OK.
OK, ready. Who's the better cook?
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Mama. Yeah, you are.
And you. You.
I throw down in the kitchen, baby.
You barbecued a steak the other day and it.
Oh. Yeah, tell him about the steak.
It made me feel a little emasculated.
Yep, that's right, because guesswhat?
That bitch was medium rare, perfect juice.
That boy came home 2 hours laterand it was still perfect.
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Yeah, that was a rough day. Yeah, I know it's rough.
I had to go fucking chop wood, that's what.
You get when you grow up with a dad you know you know how to do
shit then. Well, I fucking did too.
I just did different shit. Come on.
I'm not talking about you, baby,you, you do lots of stuff.
He can he can build us a God damn wilderness camp in the God
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damn woods. We're.
Fine. Yeah, yeah, my mom made me.
How many summers? My mom made me camp in the snow
as a. Child.
That's right. That's that's the one.
Yeah, yeah. You made an igloo, baby.
Yeah, kinda. That's and that's why I don't
sit the fuck down. See.
You know what I mean? Yeah, so you can blame my
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mother. I I don't blame your mother for
anything. I love her.
Shout out to Tam. Who's messier?
This bitch right here. You are very messy.
I do get a little messy. But you know why that it drives
me crazy? It's because when I woke up in
the morning it was you put your fucking shoes on.
Yeah, and who doesn't know how to be a normal person?
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Yeah, I don't take my shoes off.Yeah, that's crazy.
It's crazy. It's like a baby's foot.
Never already and you never. Had is like baby's feet, I can't
even touch him next to mine. But it's you don't think it's a
Wouldn't it be better to always be ready to?
Go I like a soft pair of sweatpants and I have to be sick
in order for this man to put sweatpants on in the house.
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I'm ready all the time, and that's a good thing.
You don't. If I'm ready, then you nobody
else has to. Do we can agree to disagree on
it? OK, wear shoes all the time.
Who said I love you first? Jacob, John.
OK. Don't say my full government
name, Jesus Christ. John Jacob Dingleheimer Schmidt.
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Yeah. And when he gets?
Me I. Say John.
Who snores louder? I got a snoring problem.
I got some problems. OK.
You might have a sleep apnea problem.
Get me a machine, Jesus. I would wear it but he says I
can't wear any more. Fucking ridiculous shit.
I got a eye mask massager that Ilove to wear at night and he
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says it makes me look like an alien so.
We have so much useless shit around our.
House bullshit. All my shit is worth it.
My heated blanket. Love it.
Thank you make you forgive me that on Christmas and my eye
massager. It's needed because I've been
getting headaches. It's ridiculous.
It's working. We have things in our house that
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I don't even know what they do. Excuse, they're not for you.
OK, don't you have an oven on the counter?
What's that thing called? That's an air fryer, and that
thing is awesome. What does that do?
It's does lots of stuff and makes lots.
It's good for me. Bingo Air fryer.
See, the producer says it it. Isn't it the same as a
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microwave? Listen, it cuts my, it cuts my
lunch prep in half in the morning for the kids because
I've been making up chicken Nuggets and stuff like that for
the for the lunches. I don't like it.
Jacob, you don't even cook. The bigger spender.
This is a good question. Jacob, John, stop.
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Saying my full government name. John.
Yeah, who's the bigger spender? Jacob, OK, Absolutely.
What do you think that is? Because I'll look at stuff or
like I'll get little notifications and it's like
$2300 to Harley-Davidson. I needed these pipes and these
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pipes is like they're going to look at how loud they are right
now. But you know what, if your man
is sober, just know that he's going to tweak out on something.
So better it be a bike than other like terrible things.
So. Then like meth.
Yeah, like meth or like some people just have like other bad
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habits like they like to do gambling.
I love gambling. Yeah, which?
Are really lucky. Yeah.
I never remember that time we won 500 bucks.
I thought we were rich. Was that on a slot machine?
Yeah. Cool sluts love them.
I think it's it's just be careful that I'm not trading one
addiction for another. Exactly, Yeah.
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But I'm not advocating for gambling by any means.
But I like to spend little amounts, $100 here.
Yeah, $117.00 here. And you look great every time
you do it. Thank you.
That's what. I do like to spend money.
Who do you think is more money conscious though?
It's your job. You're a protector and a
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provider. It's your job to spend the
money, yes. OK cool.
Who's more likely to get lost without Agps?
Not I, Jacob. I've got Rd. maps in my head.
OK, listen, here's this I can't be finding my ways around the
world like you do because you'd be driving like thousands and
thousands of miles like dude whodrives 15 hours in one day,
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Beth? Would get.
Lost but next question. I can do roads in town.
You could get around town, you're good at that.
Yeah. Who takes longer to get ready?
Me. You do.
And I don't regret it. OK, this is a great one and we
both have an answer. Who would be my movie character?
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It's so hard because it's such amash up for me.
Yours would be that lazy. I brought.
God damn you, I knew you were going to say that.
You look just like her. What's?
Her name You look just like her I.
Hate when you say that. I thought you were going to tell
me that I look like, what's her name?
Oh, and Cameron Diaz. OK, I'll be her but I'm not tall
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enough. I thought it was the spider
lady, but whatever. I think for me it's like you're
like John wicking with like withlike a Brad Pitti vibe from
Oceans. OK.
Thank you. That's me.
That's me for you. Gotcha.
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Like those. Yeah, like, but like super like
when you do that smile with yourFang teeth and like Brad Pitt
does that in the Oceans 2 movie and is like wrist is like you
have your watch on. Like it's super makes me hot
right now. But that's like you.
That's you with like a little bit of John Wick because you're
also like silent psycho. Thank you, baby.
And you would definitely kill somebody over a dog if you loved
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it. I mean, you love Bucky.
It did. So think if like somebody hurt
that dog. Are you sad that we don't have a
dog? Sometimes, but then I'm like, I
have three dogs. They're cute, they're kids, but
they're like dogs. That's funny.
Usually people say the other theother way around.
Yeah, we have three whole ass kids.
Yeah, it's like, I, I mean, likeyou literally like pulled her
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diaper aside and like, shit the other day on my carpet.
So like, that's like a dog shook.
So until like everybody can likedo their own bodily functions.
Thanks for always cleaning shit like that up.
Like, oh, like, oh, I won't evenbring it up.
No pay rent. I'll say it, but I'm.
Not I got sick because of sushi.No big deal.
And so when that happened, you were what?
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As I was scrubbed. What?
Don't look at me. I'm sorry.
Yeah, I'm sorry. You have to do.
That somebody's got to clean it up.
And that's always me, baby. And I'll be there.
Thanks for that. You're welcome.
OK, what is the silliest thing that you think you and I argue
about? When you come over sometimes
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after, like, I've been really stoned all night, then you come
and check the side of my bed. Yeah, like I'm your, I'm your
teenage daughter. And I know you'd be looking to
see if I got like some chips or something on the side of my bed.
You're a pothead through and through.
Yeah, and I never laughed about it, though you didn't.
You didn't change but but yeah, it makes.
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Me laugh and like I can't think you're serious.
You get because I get mad about the provolone cheese and onions.
It's. Not even provolone cheese.
It's green onions, people, and white cheddar cheese and.
Disgusting. Totally weird.
Try it. Hit me on it.
Try it. That's a very strange thing that
you do that I would agree that your your pothead habits are the
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silliest thing we argue. Yeah, or like when I get Ash
somewhere. The whole bathroom.
You OK? Just going to get annoyed.
It's going to be a fun ride home.
What is your part? Oh, this is good.
I already know this, but what's your partner's guilty pleasure
TV show? Yours.
No your or no yours. I think I know yours.
OK, tell me. I think it's SVU.
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Try again. OK, come on, it's something gay.
No, you showed me it. You got me addicted.
Gil. Gil Grissom.
Oh, Las CSI Las Vegas. Boom.
Yeah, that is like fucking Las Potato.
That shit just makes me go rightto night.
Night town, baby. That's a good one.
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What do you think mine is? Like anything that's like
rebuilding a car. Like you but also Don Draper,
you love Mad Men and we love MadMen.
That's like our fall time show that we restart.
I mean how many times have we watched it?
Not like 6 times. Yeah, I.
Like all seasons. We love that, like Chip and
Joanna Gaines is probably. My oh, you love Chip and Joe,
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but like we get upset with Joanna because she's so mean to
Chip and that makes you sad? Who's more likely to plan a
spontaneous trip? On Jacob Shingleheim, it's
always you. You're the one who has all this
stuff. OK, Yeah.
I can't, like plan drift. I don't know how to do that.
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And we taught me. Did you like my book?
Yeah, it made me cry on multipleoccasions.
Yeah, It your book was. It was.
It's weird. Owed to our life in a sense.
And like, you know how much I love my grandfather.
Like, yeah, I love him to the moon and back.
He is my Stars and Stripes and. Those that don't know, my book
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is based on my wife's grandfather who did give me his
company, his career when he retired.
And it was a very strange. It was a strange, it was kind of
a strange thing because I had never met anybody from my job.
And this guy gave me the companyand just kind of showed me the
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ropes. And I thought, wouldn't it be
interesting if everybody was a hit man?
You know what I mean? And.
And the running joke in our family was like always kind of
like. Because he traveled weird, which
now I traveled he. Would come in to town like I
remember we were ten, I was like10.
My my siblings were younger, obviously, but he would come in
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and just be like, Hey, do you guys want to come to Palm
Springs for the week? And we would go to these amazing
resorts and my egg candy would be there and like they would
have these amazing pools and everything.
It was so cool. And we were just like, dude,
like this is so cool. Like we're.
We get to do that now. Yeah, now we're doing it now
like it's full circle, thinking honey and.
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Thank you brother. And so it's just kind of like
the running joke on our family was always like, what's he
really doing? Like, why can't you just like
come and go as he pleases and like he's getting us like all
these cool hotels and like we get to go on vacations for a
week and like what? Like what's like, what does
grandpa do? Is he hit man?
And like that, obviously my grandfather, he just ran a
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railroad for a woman and built that whole thing up and he did
it on his back, you know, for 30years he made something out of
nothing. And that's like, but he was he
was very quiet. He was very reserved.
He was very talkative to people that he trusted and loved and
things of that nature. But, you know, it was just
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always kind of this joke that wewere just like, what do you
really do? Because we don't know what to
do. Like, we never seen you at your
job. You know, you just tell us you
go working on the railroad. So, yeah, it was.
I mean, I'll never, ever, ever forget like when my grandpa
called me and said, you know, would Jacob be interested in
something like this? And then when they started
calling you Jaker, I just remember like that was it.
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That's when I knew my grandpa trusted you and he believed in
you and he saw it in you to takethis where it needed to be.
Because he was a very forthrightman.
He was very honest. He was very secure in who he was
as a person. He was a good person.
And I just remembered when he was, he was so proud of you and
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your guys's talks lit him up, like when he was sick, not
feeling good when you would callhim, it lit him up for the week.
You know, it made him feel sick.Or when you took him on that
week when you just pick. Yeah.
And he said, like, that was one of the best times that he had
had and so long. And he just, I just try.
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It made me feel more secure in our relationship as well.
I mean, I know we had been married and had baby at this
point. Of course I felt secure, but it
made me feel, I guess, good in my heart that my grandpa felt so
good in his heart about you. And I remember when it was that
last day he said to you, no matter what happens between you
and Beth, just like me and Millie, no matter what happens,
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you always make sure you take care of my granddaughter.
And I know that you took it serious.
And I remember at his funeral when you spoke like that whole
room got quiet and it was real. And I just that mutual respect
was always there. There's a stoic thing coming in
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and starting a career on day onefor somebody that's literally
spent their entire life buildinga company.
There's a very stoic that you just kind of have to shut the
fuck up and you don't know shit and just sit there and what.
And one of the my favorite things about your grandpa when
he was talking to me about the railroad was, you know, it's
like he was training me and he he's not a any words.
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And so he, he was like, Hey, if it looks fucked up, it's
probably fucked up. And so my whole all my knowledge
from. Working on the road, I've never
heard my grandfather. Really, Jonal, pretty Jonal like
this because he's worked on the railroad.
Is is, Yeah, If it looks fucked up, it's probably fucked up.
That's my whole. That was my whole.
That was my whole one week. My whole life, like he tried to
give me a promise. Reindeer.
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Yeah, he wasn't. Like that with us.
And so, I mean, I just though isn't an impactful part of my
relationship with your grandfather that changed my life
and and fuck, everything we get to do is because of that.
I know it's like crazy. All the things that we've got to
take our kids to do and everything we've got to
experience. It's been, it's been a beautiful
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ride, railroad ride. It has been, but you did like
the book. Oh, I love the book.
I think it was like, it's crazy how much, like I said, that's
why I think you're like John Wick in that way, because it's
very much like that kind of world.
But in a lot of ways, there's somuch of me and my husband in
there that is real, you know? OK, so I got another question.
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OK, who if we had a podcast together, just you and me, what
would it be called? And you can say bad words if you
want. I'm not saying you need to say a
bad word right now, but. Oh God, I don't know.
Probably be like something raunchy.
Probably be like the Naked girl podcast.
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Oh, there it goes. The BJ podcast it'd.
Probably be the naked girls bandpodcast.
The naked girls band podcast because.
You loved the Naked Brothers Band.
I did. That was cool.
Yeah, but it was before your time.
OK, it was after my time, baby. Yeah, that's what I meant.
Uh huh. On road trips, who is the DJ?
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Me Sometimes you want to be DJ, but not most of the time, are
you? All right, if we swap jobs for
the day, what is it that you think I do?
The thing that you go and talk to Travis and you'll go and walk
the. Road Travis is one guy.
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OK. Well, I don't really know all
the rest of them because there'slike 40 million people that call
you, you work 15 states. So I don't really know how to
sum that up. But you walk around the track
and you check frog and switch points and if they're have bad
stuff on it, then you send Joey to.
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Yeah. Then you send Joey to Weld it
with the manganese stuff. Yeah.
And then you. Some of them are manganese,
yeah. And then you fix them.
Well, like you tell people or you say you can't do anything
'cause you your shit's bad. I lock them out of the truck.
Yeah, that part, yeah. And you just like look at snakes
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and stuff. I'd see a lot of snakes.
'Cause you send me those and deers and donkeys and donkeys
and horses and. Lots of horses.
And that's what I think you do. Yeah, I definitely do.
That and you walk around a lot. What do you think?
I do like my job? I think it's baby making.
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Yeah, you do a lot of things. OK.
Like what do you think? Well, I think you like answer
the phones for your dad and helprun his business, but like but
your job is like. Was my job.
Just being a great mom and a fucking dope wife and just being
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a being always saying yes. I am a yes man.
Yeah, OK, I got another one. OK.
If we got separated, which one of us is more likely to survive
the zombie apocalypse? What?
Why are we going to be separatedin it?
You said we had a plan and we have a bunker and stuff.
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What are? We talking about?
Don't talk. About the bunker, Nobody can
know where the bunker is. I don't care.
Why are we going to be separated?
OK? I would win because, listen, I
would do what Michelle did and Iwould fucking chop them
motherfucking arms off and put them on leashes and I'd be
having them zombies fucking get me through all the
motherfuckers. You walked up the stairs today
and you were out of breath. Not because I just smoked
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marijuana. And obviously with zombie pucks,
marijuana would be probably on my lower list of problems.
It would still be your problem people, and I would still need
to find it, but I would be in like fucking mode.
I would be killing. You are pretty.
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I wouldn't. Get to fuck the zombies, Jacob.
Right, so you. I'm not like taking deals like
that, you know what I mean? If our marriage had a theme
song, what would it be? Our marriage theme song is.
(01:02:51):
It would like either be like from the early days when you
used to love Mac Miller, or it would be Frank Sinatra.
What's? Sinatra song.
My grandpa's son. Which one I can think of the
name baby. Think of it for me that Elvis
Presley made that's in our favorite movie.
Nobody if I oh. My God, no, you can't put me on
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the spot. On.
The show. Say it, bitch.
Oh my God. Call Claire.
She knows it. Oh, that's that would be our
theme song. I just can't think of it.
Hey, Siri, what's the Frank Sinatra song that Elvis Presley
remade? Thank you.
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No, you stupid bitch. I don't know it, but that's what
it would be. Me.
I don't. Think that was Sinatra my way?
My way. OK, thanks.
It's our way. Always and forever.
It's our way. I just want to say thank you for
being my wife and putting up with all the crazy shit that
I've put our family through for the last eight years and let me
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figure out how to fuck it up. So I hello. 11.
You could do it right. Baby, you didn't fuck it up.
You fucked it up beautifully. I appreciate you, You are a
wonderful partner and I love youand.
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Is this your wedding? You look pretty good in Nate
that outfit. We're married, baby.
I OK, well, bye. I love you too.
And I'm appreciative of you and I'm really, really proud of you.
Thank you, baby. I need a kill in that.
All right, I love you. This is actually your
intervention, so just kidding. Well guys, tune into the next
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episode. See what I'm doing then.
No, I'm just kidding.
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What's up everybody? September 27th is St.
Vibes in Reno, NV and I don't know about you guys but I miss
the way it used to be in downtown Reno.
Bikes lining the streets. It was an event and people would
come out. Well we're trying to bring that
back with the Baddest Little Bike show at Revision Brewery
come out September 27th. At Revision we've got to FXR,
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Bagger Club style Beat, gloss chopper, metric cars, vendors,
trophies, giveaways, surprise guests and more.
There is nowhere else to be on Saturday.
St. Vibes then Revision Brewing for
the baddest little bike show. Come check it out, grab your
drink. I did.
Oh, let me grab my drink. I.
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Just don't even know why you want me on here.
Yeah, the arsonist had oddly shaped feet.
Ow now, brown cow? I'm here with tits McGee.
And Tits McGee is on vacation. I am Veronica Corningstone.
Yeah, how's your day going, baby?
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I don't know, I'm a little nervous.
Why? Because I don't usually talk on
things like this ever. A little bit closer, you're
good. Sorry.
There we go, Subscribe to our only Fans.
I don't have one. He's a liar.
So where did you grow up, baby? I was born in San Diego, CA and
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I grew up in Oceanside for a little and then we moved to
Claremont and then we came to this beautiful town Reno, NV
that has no beaches or anything that is like California.
Totally landlocked, but it's allyou can eat.
Sushi though. This is true.
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And me and my best friend very much enjoyed that aspect.
But yeah, we came here and it probably honestly was the best
decision ever because I met my husband here and I had my babies
here. Yeah.
And if I would have never left that shit hole San Diego, then
yeah, he wouldn't have met you. And.
Where'd you go to school? I went to North Valleys.
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Yeah, home of the Panthers, I. You're a.
You're a North Valleys girl through and through.
Absolutely Valley girl through and through VS.
Yeah. So what do you think about what
we're doing here? I think it's really cool.
I'm actually very, very proud ofyou.
I think it's really awesome because you have, I've watched
you help so many people throughout the last 11 years
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that we've been together. I've watched you help families
get back together. I've watched a lot of really
great things happen, you know? You've also seen me start about
seven other businesses. This is true.
I've seen you be many men in many moons, but all of those men
I think needed to happen in order for you to be this man who
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I I think that this is who you're always supposed to be.
This like bad ass biker daddy who also is working on the
railroad which that makes me really proud because I know my
grandpa is really proud of you too.
Yeah. And yeah, your grandpa, when he
gave me that job, he definitely gave me a career, that's for
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sure. You know what I mean?
Hold on. One SEC is it is good.
Yeah. You know, he definitely gave me
a he definitely gave me a career.
Yeah. I I when I met you I had a was
working at a car dealership and making OK money but it was a
little shady that whole thing. Well, yeah, you spend also your
whole paycheck to buy me a firstthe very first time you met me.
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Yeah. Which was really really.
Yeah, you were the first white girl I'd ever dated.
Absolutely. Yeah, that was cool.
And you had slid just to set therecord straight.
You set slid into my DMS. OK, I did, because I listen.
Yeah, I was a lonely lady and you were speaking poetry on the
Internet and for a what? How old are you?
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Like 22? I never heard a 22 year old even
write something like that, so that's why I had to write.
Did you get this on the Internetor is this really you talking?
But it was worth it that I wroteyou.
You've put up with a lot of bullshit over the years and I, I
appreciate you and I appreciate you being the kind of wife
that's I'm able to explore thesethings and do these things and
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try to dip my toes and things and you just being supportive.
That's all you can ask for. You know what I mean?
That's cuz I think that you are capable of a lot of cool things.
You're a very cool person, you know, You don't give yourself
enough credit either. I mean I'm a really cool ass
person, don't get me wrong, but.Yeah, you're pretty cool.
Yeah, you made me cool in a lot of ways too.
You know what I mean? For sure, and I told you how to
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dance a little bit better too. Yeah, You're, you're you.
Yeah. Thank you.
Yeah, I probably won't be doing that anytime soon, but yeah.
So what was what was it like growing up having a kid and
knowing it wasn't going to work out with his father?
Was that a lonely time in your life?
Yes, because I come from a very strict Catholic households.
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We're talking we're talking generations upon generations of
women who stayed because that's what God tells you to do and
that's what the right thing is. I mean, my great grandmother had
to ask the Catholic Church to get on birth control after her
four. I'm I'm sorry, excuse me.
She had 12 children, but 14 if God would have allowed.
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These are her words. So when you come from a
background of thinking like, no matter what, once you decide to
have a family with somebody likeyou stick it out with them.
You roll through, you put up with what you need to put up
with because your child is supposed to have a mother and
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father. But I in my situation, I was
very young. I was 19 when I met his dad and
he was 16 years older than me. And I'm not saying you cannot
find love through age gaps. That's not true.
You can find the right partner for yourself regardless of the
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age. I'm just saying more often than
not, there is some type of predatory thing at hand there.
And in my situation, I'm not saying that he was a predator,
I'm just saying I was way too young.
He was way too old and. What do you even have in common?
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Everybody knew that but me. And I think too, I was in a time
in my life where I wanted to rebel.
I wanted a party. I was working at a nightclub.
I was having that time in my life.
I was making hand over fist money like crazy.
I was sleeping all day, partyingall night.
It was fun. It was cool.
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He was this older guy. We were having fun together.
He was to me, in my eyes, every bit of his story.
He, it was real. And so it was like, oh, he's
this cool guy. He's like all his cool doors are
going to open for me. Well, that's like the part when
you're 19 and you're not really realizing, like you don't have
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anything in common with this person.
And it's very much not real. As the relationship went on, I
actually tried to, I tried to run away.
I did. I, I ran to my grandparents in
San Diego and I left. I quit my job at the pepper mill
and I went to San Diego and I got a new job.
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My aunt got me a job, which I'm sorry I ruined that.
I'm sorry about that. But you know, I was dumb and I I
tried to forget. I tried to move forward.
I tried to forget about him. Sometimes in those
relationships, when you are thatyoung and impressionable by an
older person and the love bombing is so real, you just,
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you fold no matter what. And I mean, I had him locked.
I, I everything, but no matter what, he still could get to me.
He still was talking to me. And one of my biggest, you know,
regrets, not regrets, but one ofthe things I'm most sad I ever
did was I left in the middle of the night.
I didn't tell my grandparents where I was going.
I packed up all of my things by myself.
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I'll never forget it. I packed a entire bookcase.
I carried it out of the house without them even knowing.
And I, I feel so sad that I did that because all they wanted to
do was help me. Wonderful people.
And I left and I drove myself the 11 hours back home to Reno
by myself and I had $110 in gas money.
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And I came back and I started living with my best friend and
my parents were pretty, you know, sad, but they were happy.
I was home, obviously, but they knew why I came back and I went
right back to him and I proceeded to date him.
And within a year, I was pregnant and we were living in
this terrible house that had no heat, had no fucking air.
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It was awful. I was nine months pregnant.
And, you know, it was really setting in that like this
relationship is just not, it's not going to be what I think,
but I need to stick it out because I'm pregnant now.
I got to have this baby and I got to make this work.
And you know, as time went forward, we moved into other
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homes. We kept, I kept trying to put
this facade on that like everything was going to be
great. I'm just going to keep pushing
forward everything. And he just was very he.
I think I aged out because that is what happens.
I became 23. I was a mother.
I took it seriously and I don't think it was ever going to.
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I don't think in his mind he thought it was ever going to be
that serious. And you know, for him, this is
what was to be done and it. Brought you the best.
It did. It gave me the best experience,
the best gift. It made me.
I always say cash is my little savior.
He saved my life. He made me become a mother, be
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the best version of myself that I could possibly be in that
moment anyway. He gave me purpose.
He nurtured my young heart because I needed that.
I needed real love. And I'm not saying have a baby
and that's how you'll find real love.
But sometimes in those situations, that kid, it
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nurtures you in a way that you will never, ever be nurtured by
anybody else. It makes you feel whole.
And that's what happened for me.And then when I was finally, you
know, so much had gone on in ourrelationship that I didn't even
know about because I was. So I put my blinders on so much.
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But it didn't matter what was happening, what he did outside
of our home, whatever. I just needed to keep this unit
together. That's all my kid needs, a dad,
whatever kind of version he wants to give.
And that's what I'm going to do.And when I finally said I was
done, I packed up all my things and we left and I moved back in
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with my parents and I got my jobback at Macy's and I started
doing makeup again. And I met you and I was, you
know, single for about two years.
And that was a great time for mebecause I got to be with my boy.
And yeah, I, I grew up in so many ways that everything that
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became, that was always important became the forefront
of what I was supposed to do. And, you know, I still make tons
of mistakes. I still went out, I still drank,
I still gotten into fights with people and what have you.
But I know at the end of the day, my best thing that I've
ever done is be a mom. And I know that I'm a, I know in
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my heart that I'm a good mom and.
There's not a lot of things thatpeople can say.
They do things perfectly, but I think the only thing that I know
you've done perfect is be a mom that's real.
Thank you, baby. You do that better.
Sometimes, though, I just want to.
Sure. And then so you had cash when we
met. And he's also the reason you and
me broke up one time. Yes, you dumped me.
I did. And block me, I did you dirty
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bitch. Yeah, I was also 20.
You were also when you have a kid, you grow up, you grow up a
lot faster and you're a lot older than me all.
Right, let's just clarify something here.
She's a year older than me. I I was born October 10th, 1991,
and this man was born in December of 92.
Yeah, A. Whole lot of time.
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One year and get off of it. Yeah, we watched totally
different cartoons, OK. You loved Rocket Power.
Yeah, OK, so you, you met and you had this kid and I, still a
woman with a child at 23, is light years of maturity beyond a
22 year old man, even though I was sober, but still light years
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beyond my maturity level. And, you know, we were hanging
out and you're that little boy called me dad for the first time
and that freaked me the fuck out.
And I was also brand new to sobriety.
I hadn't worked in a sober program.
I was just sober. And it was, you know, it was a
scary thing. You know, he called, he called
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me Dad. And, you know, I just, I just
don't think I was, I was ready. You know what I mean?
I know. And you know, I didn't, I mean,
I didn't think that you were ready either when he said it.
I, my butthole buckered a littlebit because I was like, damn,
that might be the end there, which it was.
But in a way, I think that was also like a kind of good thing
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for us because you had to have that time.
You had to really like, like your dad, I'm sure.
I mean, your dad was probably just as nervous.
That's why like me and your mom,like we like, we are one in that
sense. Like we wanted those men for our
sons. We wanted real men for our sons,
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people that like you came in when you finally, when we
finally got back together, like you had been a you have been a
full blown dad to that boy sincethe moment that we have gone
back together. And I think that, you know, like
you said, it was new. You were new to everything.
You also just like still were recovering from a severe
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accident and like it, I was living light years beyond what
you were able to take in at that.
Point even the capacity of knowledge.
About. Life experience was not even the
same. Yeah.
But you caught up. I did catch up.
And here's what's wild about that whole thing is when would
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that when that whole first thingwent down.
This is so funny now, but I had no semblance of what a higher
power or a or a faith or anything like that was, you know
what I mean? So it was, it was a very
different thing for me, you knowwhat I mean?
Oh, tell us. Asked to wait.
Tell him I said, wait, anyway, Ihad no semblance of a higher
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power. I didn't know what that looked
like. I had no idea about any of this,
you know. And we broke up and somebody at
a meeting was talking about the meaning of life.
And the meaning of life to him was to have a family and to like
that day. Where your last day comes is
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simply how many people that you've loved in that room.
And that was right after we had broken up.
And I was like, what the fuck isthe meaning of life if not to be
a father? And it's so funny that that
bothered me so much when I literally had a dad that adopted
me and did the exact same thing.And it was like the other thing
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somebody said. That meeting was like giving
away what was freely given to you.
And I had a dad and I lucked outand he taught me everything.
He taught me how to be a man. He taught me music, He taught me
all these things. About a baseball.
Yeah, baseball and how to run. How to how to how to.
Yeah. How to be an athlete, you know,
And you know, I would have not had that if he didn't step up.
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And I here I am being a coward. You know what I mean?
And it was like, no, that that you like that girl, you love
that girl. That's what you need to do.
You need to shut the fuck up. You need to figure it out.
And I feel like that's been the theme of pretty much the last 10
years of our lives is you need to just shut the fuck up and
love this girl and just figure it the fuck out.
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You know what I mean? And that was, I just want you to
know, of all the crazy things that we've gone through in the
last 10 years, that was the bestdecision I ever made in my
entire life to this point. You hear that, people?
That's on the. It's on the Internet now, so.
Well, that was one of the best decisions I ever made either, so
don't worry. So I'm curious what it's like
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being a normal person who can drink and enjoy stuff like that
and being with a guy who's sober.
What is that like for you? Because I know that's not easy
and I know that there's things you you probably couldn't do if
we were both drinking. What is it?
What is that like for you? You can be candid.
You always got someone driving you home safely.
That's. For Oh OK, you just married your
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DD. For sure.
Baby, thanks. For always getting my ass home
safe. No, but it like when we first
started dating, I was so nervousto like drink around you,
especially because like you were, you know, freshly sober
too. And I remember your mom told me,
your mom said, honey, this is what they need.
This is their thing. They chose us.
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They know what we are and they know what we do and we're not
because you want to enjoy a glass of wine or you want to go
out with your girlfriends and drink or go out with your
husband and have drinks. You know, they're not here to
judge you. They're here judging themselves.
And 'cause I remember, like I wouldn't, your mom would like,
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offer me a glass of wine or something.
And I felt like nervous, you know, 'cause I just didn't know,
like what the. I was new to your family and I
wanted your family to love me and like me so much.
And I remember your mom said that they're sober.
We're not sober. And they like us for who we are.
Oh. For sure and I like that you
have drinks and do it normally. So I mean, sometimes, yes, of
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course I can. I can get a little rowdy, which
I won't lie, we've had some goodtimes, some good fights with
that. But I think for the most part
I'm a pretty. I get, I'm fun, I hope, but.
I feel like also being with you,it does actually make me like
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check myself a little more just because like, I don't want to
just, you know, get hammered drunk all the time, but.
So you're a little more cognizant to your drink.
Yeah, and I think too, like I'm not, I don't get that 20 year
old liver anymore, you know? And I'm not out here to just
like get hammered drunk and thengo off.
But, and if everyone knows me, then you all know that I like to
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have a good time to give me a ride.
I'm the first girl to throw the ones on the strip club.
But I think that being with you,it does it kind of because I do.
I mean, my family, all of us, weall, I've been around, you know,
drinking my whole life and stufflike that.
But like, I always want to be able to check myself because I
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don't want my kids to think that, you know, oh, mom's just
having a great time all the timeand like getting super hammered
all the time. I don't want that.
But I do think that when me and you go out, it's nice that my
husband, you're not sitting in judgement of me.
You're letting me enjoy myself because nine times out of 10, I
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am at home. I am making sure that our kids
are right. I'm making sure that you're
right. I'm making sure that when you're
out of town, I'm running our household right.
And so I feel like. And that's a foreign language to
people like us, right? We don't know what that looks
like. We don't even know what that
means. We can't fathom what that is.
And of course, every partner of a alcoholic is always wondering
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if they're drinking too much. And that's always a normal theme
among people. And the you're just normal, you
know what I mean? And it's, and it's a, but that's
a foreign concept to people who have what we have, right?
You know what I mean? We don't understand what it's
like to maintain your home and do all these things.
And that's why it's, it's and it's not your responsibility to
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change who you are because we'resober.
The only responsibility you haveis to make sure that you're not
making it harder for. Me no, absolutely.
And like, I feel like definitelyover the course of our lives,
like I can be completely honest,I know I've probably made it
hard for you, honey. And I feel like those are the
times though, when I like can get that reality check and be
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like, yo, bitch, why are you acting like that?
Like, why are you doing that? You are grown woman.
You got responsibilities, you got kids, you got school to take
care of. You got to get up in the
morning, You know, like don't bewho you know that you shouldn't
be and who you don't want to be.And so I think too, I'm I'm
grateful that I'm grateful that our kids have never seen you
drink. I'm grateful that I know the
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person that you were and I know every single thing about you,
but I love the person that I've got to be with throughout our
life together. Like, I'm grateful for that
because it also, and kind of, I guess a selfish, weird way to
say it, allows me to be who I want to be, you know?
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Do you feel like that's I feel like you've become more of
yourself than any other time in our.
Lives. Oh, absolutely.
Do you feel like that? You've made me feel like.
You got to be yourself. Yeah.
And I think. And I feel like I've succeeded
as a husband. You know, I think too, I mean,
when we first got together and you broke up with me, I think I
was so heartbroken because I, for the first time in my whole
life, you've made me feel like Iwas seen.
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You know, you saw me and you didn't judge me and you didn't
think I was just this crazy girlwho just was, you know?
No, I just thought what the fuckis this hot girl doing talking
to me? Because my problem is I like
girls that like me back. And the fact that you like me
back was dope. You know what I mean?
That was pretty fucking. Well, then you didn't like me
back and that was hurtful. But you know, it's fine.
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But no, I think honestly, I'm grateful because like, you've
made me more confident in who I can be.
And I think I've only gotten like better with just anything
really. I feel like you just allowed me
to be myself. And yes, there has been times
where you're like, hey, take it easy because I don't want to
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carry your ass home or you're going to fall off the bike while
we're driving back. But for the most part, you're
pretty rad Rad Daddy, that's forsure.
We had two more beautiful kids together, you know?
Right out of here. Who's your favorite?
My favorite who is whoever needsmy attention at that moment.
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OK, well, Layla's my favorite. God Dang it.
I knew you were going to say that.
She's pretty cool. Yeah, I know.
I. Just got to love him different.
I think that is yes, like we all, we love our children the
way that they need to be loved. For sure.
Judy is our. Don't tell.
Don't call him sensitive. Aw, he, just like his daddy,
just got a lot of feelings sometimes.
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I'm a man. You are a man and Judy's a man.
Yeah, Judy's a man. And bit like his daddy too,
yeah. Yeah, he's a big.
Town and Layla is she needs morea little bit more discipline
because she's a little bit of sass, but not with you because
you just say. Well, I think, I think with
boys, it's my job to raise motherfuckers.
It's you want them to be like that, you know what I mean?
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No, I think they need to be motherfuckers, especially in the
time of the world today. I think they need to be able to
grow up to be young men. And I think that's my role.
And I think your role is to teach her how to be a girl.
Because I don't know what the fuck that means.
I don't know what. That means either.
Well, it's OK. You're doing a good job.
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And I think, Layla, I get to just be like, whatever you want,
baby, you know what I mean? No, I.
Do love that. I mean, I always knew, like when
I was pregnant with her, I just always was so excited because I
knew she was just going to be like the stars in your eyes.
And she does look at you like that.
And it makes me so happy becauseshe just.
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My favorite thing to hear is when you pull up from a week's
work of Working Hard Daddy is. That is my favorite too.
That definitely makes it all good.
And what's funny about that is they.
Never say that when I come home.They do, they do, Layla does,
and they all do. It's all Mommy.
I want juice. Yeah, that's true.
I'm a juice bitch for life. Yeah, and I didn't.
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And and yeah, when you told me you were pregnant with Layla, I
fucking did not want to have a third kid.
I was fucking scared. No girls.
I did not want to have and then she ended up.
Guess what? If you're a witch, tap into a
witch power because it's real. Yeah, you love it.
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Down here, we had some fun timesdown here, some really fun
things I like when I like seeingin the early mornings, like when
we have to come down here for stuff like when you guys are
like we're going to head out forthe day or whatever.
When the pimps do the check insurance.
You guys listen to me. Come on.
Yeah, it's fun times down here. Definitely out here yelling at
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each other. That's so I want to ask you what
is your biggest turn ONS from methat you that is like not a
normal turn on bullshit. Probably like, what do you like
when I cry? I do like when you cry.
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That gets me going, dude. Sometimes, like sometimes it's
so rare, sometimes in fights, like it was just getting too bad
and I don't have anything else to say, I'll just start crying
and then I know it'll end. Because like.
Yeah, he's a freak. He's just.
Sleepy. Yeah.
Gets me going. No, no, I meant like mowing the
lawn. Like what is it?
Oh, yeah, I love when you do them all in.
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I love when you're outside working.
It's a good time. What other things do I enjoy?
Oh, I love when like you surprised me because your
surprise is like, I guess like throughout my whole entire like
dating experience. I didn't really have great
boyfriends by the way, but I never had like any men like
surprise me and like you actually give me like goosebump
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surprises. Like I remember the first.
Time. I'm not nice, but I'll buy you
whatever you. Want shut up.
Like, well, I mean, this was, I guess, the materialistic, but I
remember the first time when youbought that Cadillac and you
picked me up from Doctor Young'soffice.
I just remember like, I hadn't had any, OK?
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Mind you every boyfriend I ever had either crashed my car or
like I had to buy them a new caror like the last one I signed a
paper that I thought the car wasmine but they all tricked me and
the car was his. And so when I left the
relationship I thought I got thecar and they were like Nah
you're a dumb bitch. And so like when you, you've
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done things to dramatically change my life to make it easier
for me. And like, that is what I'm so
appreciative of. And it is little things.
It's like the fact that I get tosleep in an extra hour just
because, you know, like, I ain'tno morning girl.
I'm sorry. I want to be, but I'm a night
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out and I'll fold all the laundry until 1:00 in the
morning and it'll be sparkling clean, but I'm not a morning
girl. And so it's little.
It's things like that, honestly,like turn me on because I'm
like, damn that man. He got me my cup of coffee, he
let me sleep in the extra hour. So, well, let's get you.
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One of the things that we've been talking about is growing up
here. Do you think growing up in Reno
had an impact on my life, on abuse, or do you think that that
was more just something that wasdestined to happen?
Like abuse, like drug, like alcohol and drug abuse.
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Oh, I'm sorry, you don't know any of the lingo because you're
normal. Well, I'm thinking views like
you know. What?
She's papers? Yeah, like there's a new study
out. There, take a walk down memory
lane. No Beth.
Beth watches an insane amount ofcrime podcasts because.
Murder mysteries? You guys should educate
yourselves, OK? And it's not real life.
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It is. But there's a study out now that
says that watching those crime shows and those crime podcasts
makes you more depressed. What do you think about that?
I don't think so. OK, well, I just made it up.
Yeah. I know you have.
You've been telling me for six months and I've been fucking
looking that facts up and there is no facts about that.
That's. Fucking annoying.
I know, but you know what? I'm my head's on a swivel, OK?
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But Jesus Christ, well, that show makes it sound like
everybody. On this item.
OK, I'll get plucked out of a Walmart with my kids in a
minute. I need to be able to how to talk
those killers out of not killingme.
You know, they probably honestlywould they'd.
Kick your ass out of the van. They would 5 minutes, they'd
hear your whole life story and your ass would be out the van.
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It would not be long before theykicked you out.
Yeah, you'd be OK, I think. Yeah.
No, I think. I would be OK.
I think you'd be totally fine. So if there's a new one that's
out there wanting to try it. Yeah, Jesus Christ.
Yeah Kitty so but no, I think that honestly, yes, I don't
think that I don't think that it's necessarily here Reno yes,
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I think that the 24 hour partying is super super
attractive to kids who especially like want to already
get fucked up. I mean it was attractive to me.
I, when I first like, realized that like, yeah, like people
just like I'm here like all the time.
Like mind you, I came from San Diego.
So when I first came up here, like it was hard for me to like
kind of make friends because like, I'm, I went to my first
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day in 6th grade with an Avril Lavigne tie on, OK.
Like, I thought I was like, cool.
And I remember my, my, my best friend, she gave up to me the
first day. She goes, dude, what the fuck
are you wearing? And so it was different like
from here versus San Diego. But like, I think that you guys
are definitely so much more exposed to like having it
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accessible here. Like I remember the very first
time I ever bought alcohol, I was 15 and all I had to do was
walk into this gas station or this liquor store and I
literally told him, Oh yeah, I just got my ID.
It's going to come in the mail. And he just like, here's a
bottle of Jaeger, like boom. And so it's very much like easy
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for it's harder in like talking to even my cousins that grew up
in San Diego, like they had to like do the panhandling thing
like outside asking people like,Hey, can you buy me some booze?
Because like it wasn't like that.
And here it's very much accessible.
So I could understand why. And then it also is like you
background and like you wanted. To there might have been a
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genetic part. Yeah, too, I think definitely.
But like you felt, I think just from talking to you and like
learning about you and knowing you, like from what your parents
have told me and stuff like you felt no matter that you had a
wonderful dad, the best dad ever, you still felt lost.
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Like you felt different. And you were trying to like,
feel that you wanted to be accepted.
Just like every kid. You wanted to be seen.
And that's why I did it. I mean, I wanted to be that cool
party girl. I wanted to be the cool girl
with the cool car, always had a bottle and had a hookah.
And I was like. Yeah, yeah, you're so cool,
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dude. Well, that's what we were doing.
I mean, and so I get it, Like I that's why I was doing it, but
it just, I guess I wasn't, I wasso afraid of turning into
certain things that I had seen that I was like so afraid of
getting in trouble too. Like I had already gotten like
mics and then I was like stealing my car with no license
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like a dipshit and driving around hammered.
Like am I going to get in trouble for that?
No, we're way past the statute of limitations.
Yeah, you're good. Go for.
That but so you know, like I didreally stupid shit, but then I
realized like fuck, I'm going toget in like a lot more trouble
if I get like another ticket. And I think like that's where
like the fuck it comes in is like your fuck.
It went like fuck it, I don't care.
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I don't care what I do and I'm just going to be this bad little
Mamma jamma. And I like pretended to be like
I was still doing bad things, but I wasn't.
There was still that fear. Yeah, maybe we the kids is a
little rough down here. It's just more editing at the
end, but it's fine. You know what I mean?
Yeah, now they're not going to sleep.
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Another night. What's 1 of the hardest things
about me being sober to you? Because I'm sure there's some.
I think sometimes it's not Even so much that it's hard, it's
that I feel like a, a sense of guilt because even though you
don't express it all the time or, or what have you, but I feel
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like I don't know how to supportyou in certain things.
Like just because I'm not sober,Like even you know, like like I
know this isn't just about Friday or whatever, but like I
just, I feel like almost bad because I don't share the same
sentiments. As same disease, yeah, no, you
and you never need to feel. And so I think like, you know,
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when I, I want to be around all of your guys's stuff, and then
sometimes I feel like awkward because I'm not sober.
And then I feel like, oh, I'm like Jacob's big shitbag.
Life is drinking. And, and like, these are all
these great people that are changing their lives.
And you know, I feel like a sense of guilt because I don't
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know how to get on that level with you.
And I like support you. I want you to always, you know,
be sober. It's the greatest thing for you
and for our lives. But like you.
Could just equate it to a room full of people with an incurable
disease that you don't have. You don't need to feel guilty
about not having the same disease as the rest of.
Us. I know it's.
We're all envious. Yeah, well, I, I can understand.
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I just so, you know, like that's, I kind of feel like that
or like, you know, there have been times where I'm like the
only one drinking that's something.
And I'm like, OK, well, I'm sorry, it's a Saturday and it's
been a long week for me. So like, I'm going to have a
couple of cocktails at this BBQ,but like I but it's only because
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like you're sitting there like no relax, like have enjoy
yourself. You can enjoy yourself in the
way that you want to just like we can.
But like, yeah, there's always that little bit of guilt where
I'm like, I feel bad and I'm like, I'm sorry.
I'm I'm sorry, but. And I hate when people are
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looking at me or trying to talk to me or be around me.
So it's better when you're beingthe center of attention.
So I'm OK and I can just watch everybody.
Yeah. So I just put on the show that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's great.
Yeah, Yeah, you are definitely, we are definitely opposites in a
lot of things. You are definitely the
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extrovert, and that's one of themost, that's one of the things I
love about you. If we were two introverted
people, we would never leave thehouse.
My defense mechanism. It is, yeah.
Yeah, you didn't. Have.
You had a rough childhood and you do you definitely what the
thing about you that I commend the most is you had a rough,
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rough childhood. And if you explained it to
anyone else, they would absolutely understand and agree.
And what you've done is your best to break the cycle and not
have you just be an absolute rock star of a mom where the
things that you experienced in your life growing up are never
going to be the same for our children.
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You. Did an amazing thing.
I will not and you will not. So we are, you know, different.
And I mean, I also had a great childhood.
I had a lot of, I have a lot of love.
I have great memories. I had great times.
It's just, you know, sometimes people, no matter if you're an
adult or not, you go through things and sometimes kids are
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there to go through with you. And one thing I'm always trying
to do is like, especially with Cash, like, you know, they
always say you're first born, especially if you're a young
mother, they grow up with you. And that's hard.
And I know my son Cash has grownup with me and seen me grow up.
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And, and there's so many things that like to this day, I feel
guilty for and awful for that mom guilt will eat you alive
sometimes. But I also know that I would cut
my arm off to feed my children at the end of the day.
And I know that everything I've done for Cash and for our other
children, obviously, but you know, Cash and me, like that kid
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kept me right. He kept me right in my mind.
He kept me right in my heart. And it was hard.
It was hard to love something so, so much and then realize
that this person does not share the same sentiment as you and to
not see how important it was. And then I would have these bats
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of just feeling like I wanted tojust run away.
And I feel like cash. He'd never deserve to see that.
But at the same time, he is, he is so emotionally mature.
He's so emotionally aware of other people.
And maybe some people think that's not a good thing.
Maybe they do. But I think it's a great thing.
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I think it's a great thing to raise children that are
emotionally aware of themselves and other people.
And you know, my son, he's, he'sbeen like my Little Rock and
Judy. He's my little sweet boy.
He makes me feel centered. And Layla, she makes me giggle
and she's just like me, a littleSpitfire.
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But I think that. Cashy just, he made me realize
I'm never going to be what I hadexperienced because I'm never
going to put that load on him. It's not right.
Children deserve to be children.And even when they grow up and
become adults, even when they grow up and become adults, they
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are still going to probably break your heart, but they'll
break your heart in good ways and bad ways.
And as a parent, you have to love them through it because
that's what you decide when you decide to become a parent.
You decide to put put aside youremotional baggage, your
emotional feelings, your lack oflove or what have you that you
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experienced as a child. And you decide to give forth
everything you have to make thatkids life excel and be better
than whatever you experience. That's all that's.
And that's all that's ever supposed to be done is.
I want my daughter to be better than me.
I want her to be a goddamn doctor.
I want her to shit on men and never have to care about anyone.
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I do. I want her.
To He is going to play softball and she.
No, she's not. She's going to be everything
that. She what are the what are the
nuns wear? What are nun things?
Stop. What are those called?
You're a Catholic. What is it?
Habits. She's going.
I'm going to start dressing her.Absolutely not.
But my point is this, I want my children to be everything that I
never did. And that's the whole point of
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life to me is I put these babieson here and I want them to get
everything they can out of this world.
That's the best thing you can doas a parent.
You're doing a great fucking joband you teach me every fucking
day what patience means. You know what I mean?
And I appreciate. It thank you for letting me have
my freak outs in the bathroom. Yeah, well, you get to do drugs.
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You're cool. I smoke marijuana, people, OK?
My wife is a drug addict. Just kidding, she smokes weed
everyday. And it makes me a better person.
God, God damn. Yeah.
And he would agree. Pumped when it got legalized.
Fuck, yeah, Yeah. It was like, yes.
You didn't have to go to that sketchy dude's house anymore.
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I mean, it sucks, you know, it'sweird.
You want to get out of there. They just want to hang out.
It's just like that movie. Like they just want to like,
chill for a minute. They want to show you the other
drugs that you don't want. And you're just like, fuck,
dude, I came here for an eighth.What the fuck are we talking
about now? Cool, yeah.
So. OK, so I got some questions I
want to ask you. OK.
OK, ready. Who's the better cook?
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Mama. Yeah, you are.
And you. You.
I throw down in the kitchen, baby.
You barbecued a steak the other day and it.
Oh. Yeah, tell him about the steak.
It made me feel a little emasculated.
Yep, that's right, because guesswhat?
That bitch was medium rare, perfect juice.
That boy came home 2 hours laterand it was still perfect.
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Yeah, that was a rough day. Yeah, I know it's rough.
I had to go fucking chop wood, that's what.
You get when you grow up with a dad you know you know how to do
shit then. Well, I fucking did too.
I just did different shit. Come on.
I'm not talking about you, baby,you, you do lots of stuff.
He can he can build us a God damn wilderness camp in the God
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damn woods. We're.
Fine. Yeah, yeah, my mom made me.
How many summers? My mom made me camp in the snow
as a. Child.
That's right. That's that's the one.
Yeah, yeah. You made an igloo, baby.
Yeah, kinda. That's and that's why I don't
sit the fuck down. See.
You know what I mean? Yeah, so you can blame my
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mother. I I don't blame your mother for
anything. I love her.
Shout out to Tam. Who's messier?
This bitch right here. You are very messy.
I do get a little messy. But you know why that it drives
me crazy? It's because when I woke up in
the morning it was you put your fucking shoes on.
Yeah, and who doesn't know how to be a normal person?
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Yeah, I don't take my shoes off.Yeah, that's crazy.
It's crazy. It's like a baby's foot.
Never already and you never. Had is like baby's feet, I can't
even touch him next to mine. But it's you don't think it's a
Wouldn't it be better to always be ready to?
Go I like a soft pair of sweatpants and I have to be sick
in order for this man to put sweatpants on in the house.
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I'm ready all the time, and that's a good thing.
You don't. If I'm ready, then you nobody
else has to. Do we can agree to disagree on
it? OK, wear shoes all the time.
Who said I love you first? Jacob, John.
OK. Don't say my full government
name, Jesus Christ. John Jacob Dingleheimer Schmidt.
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Yeah. And when he gets?
Me I. Say John.
Who snores louder? I got a snoring problem.
I got some problems. OK.
You might have a sleep apnea problem.
Get me a machine, Jesus. I would wear it but he says I
can't wear any more. Fucking ridiculous shit.
I got a eye mask massager that Ilove to wear at night and he
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says it makes me look like an alien so.
We have so much useless shit around our.
House bullshit. All my shit is worth it.
My heated blanket. Love it.
Thank you make you forgive me that on Christmas and my eye
massager. It's needed because I've been
getting headaches. It's ridiculous.
It's working. We have things in our house that
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I don't even know what they do. Excuse, they're not for you.
OK, don't you have an oven on the counter?
What's that thing called? That's an air fryer, and that
thing is awesome. What does that do?
It's does lots of stuff and makes lots.
It's good for me. Bingo Air fryer.
See, the producer says it it. Isn't it the same as a
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microwave? Listen, it cuts my, it cuts my
lunch prep in half in the morning for the kids because
I've been making up chicken Nuggets and stuff like that for
the for the lunches. I don't like it.
Jacob, you don't even cook. The bigger spender.
This is a good question. Jacob, John, stop.
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Saying my full government name. John.
Yeah, who's the bigger spender? Jacob, OK, Absolutely.
What do you think that is? Because I'll look at stuff or
like I'll get little notifications and it's like
$2300 to Harley-Davidson. I needed these pipes and these
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pipes is like they're going to look at how loud they are right
now. But you know what, if your man
is sober, just know that he's going to tweak out on something.
So better it be a bike than other like terrible things.
So. Then like meth.
Yeah, like meth or like some people just have like other bad
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habits like they like to do gambling.
I love gambling. Yeah, which?
Are really lucky. Yeah.
I never remember that time we won 500 bucks.
I thought we were rich. Was that on a slot machine?
Yeah. Cool sluts love them.
I think it's it's just be careful that I'm not trading one
addiction for another. Exactly, Yeah.
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But I'm not advocating for gambling by any means.
But I like to spend little amounts, $100 here.
Yeah, $117.00 here. And you look great every time
you do it. Thank you.
That's what. I do like to spend money.
Who do you think is more money conscious though?
It's your job. You're a protector and a
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provider. It's your job to spend the
money, yes. OK cool.
Who's more likely to get lost without Agps?
Not I, Jacob. I've got Rd. maps in my head.
OK, listen, here's this I can't be finding my ways around the
world like you do because you'd be driving like thousands and
thousands of miles like dude whodrives 15 hours in one day,
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Beth? Would get.
Lost but next question. I can do roads in town.
You could get around town, you're good at that.
Yeah. Who takes longer to get ready?
Me. You do.
And I don't regret it. OK, this is a great one and we
both have an answer. Who would be my movie character?
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It's so hard because it's such amash up for me.
Yours would be that lazy. I brought.
God damn you, I knew you were going to say that.
You look just like her. What's?
Her name You look just like her I.
Hate when you say that. I thought you were going to tell
me that I look like, what's her name?
Oh, and Cameron Diaz. OK, I'll be her but I'm not tall
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enough. I thought it was the spider
lady, but whatever. I think for me it's like you're
like John wicking with like withlike a Brad Pitti vibe from
Oceans. OK.
Thank you. That's me.
That's me for you. Gotcha.
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Like those. Yeah, like, but like super like
when you do that smile with yourFang teeth and like Brad Pitt
does that in the Oceans 2 movie and is like wrist is like you
have your watch on. Like it's super makes me hot
right now. But that's like you.
That's you with like a little bit of John Wick because you're
also like silent psycho. Thank you, baby.
And you would definitely kill somebody over a dog if you loved
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it. I mean, you love Bucky.
It did. So think if like somebody hurt
that dog. Are you sad that we don't have a
dog? Sometimes, but then I'm like, I
have three dogs. They're cute, they're kids, but
they're like dogs. That's funny.
Usually people say the other theother way around.
Yeah, we have three whole ass kids.
Yeah, it's like, I, I mean, likeyou literally like pulled her
(50:06):
diaper aside and like, shit the other day on my carpet.
So like, that's like a dog shook.
So until like everybody can likedo their own bodily functions.
Thanks for always cleaning shit like that up.
Like, oh, like, oh, I won't evenbring it up.
No pay rent. I'll say it, but I'm.
Not I got sick because of sushi.No big deal.
And so when that happened, you were what?
(50:31):
As I was scrubbed. What?
Don't look at me. I'm sorry.
Yeah, I'm sorry. You have to do.
That somebody's got to clean it up.
And that's always me, baby. And I'll be there.
Thanks for that. You're welcome.
OK, what is the silliest thing that you think you and I argue
about? When you come over sometimes
(50:58):
after, like, I've been really stoned all night, then you come
and check the side of my bed. Yeah, like I'm your, I'm your
teenage daughter. And I know you'd be looking to
see if I got like some chips or something on the side of my bed.
You're a pothead through and through.
Yeah, and I never laughed about it, though you didn't.
You didn't change but but yeah, it makes.
(51:19):
Me laugh and like I can't think you're serious.
You get because I get mad about the provolone cheese and onions.
It's. Not even provolone cheese.
It's green onions, people, and white cheddar cheese and.
Disgusting. Totally weird.
Try it. Hit me on it.
Try it. That's a very strange thing that
you do that I would agree that your your pothead habits are the
(51:40):
silliest thing we argue. Yeah, or like when I get Ash
somewhere. The whole bathroom.
You OK? Just going to get annoyed.
It's going to be a fun ride home.
What is your part? Oh, this is good.
I already know this, but what's your partner's guilty pleasure
TV show? Yours.
No your or no yours. I think I know yours.
OK, tell me. I think it's SVU.
(52:04):
Try again. OK, come on, it's something gay.
No, you showed me it. You got me addicted.
Gil. Gil Grissom.
Oh, Las CSI Las Vegas. Boom.
Yeah, that is like fucking Las Potato.
That shit just makes me go rightto night.
Night town, baby. That's a good one.
(52:24):
What do you think mine is? Like anything that's like
rebuilding a car. Like you but also Don Draper,
you love Mad Men and we love MadMen.
That's like our fall time show that we restart.
I mean how many times have we watched it?
Not like 6 times. Yeah, I.
Like all seasons. We love that, like Chip and
Joanna Gaines is probably. My oh, you love Chip and Joe,
(52:44):
but like we get upset with Joanna because she's so mean to
Chip and that makes you sad? Who's more likely to plan a
spontaneous trip? On Jacob Shingleheim, it's
always you. You're the one who has all this
stuff. OK, Yeah.
I can't, like plan drift. I don't know how to do that.
(53:05):
And we taught me. Did you like my book?
Yeah, it made me cry on multipleoccasions.
Yeah, It your book was. It was.
It's weird. Owed to our life in a sense.
And like, you know how much I love my grandfather.
Like, yeah, I love him to the moon and back.
He is my Stars and Stripes and. Those that don't know, my book
(53:26):
is based on my wife's grandfather who did give me his
company, his career when he retired.
And it was a very strange. It was a strange, it was kind of
a strange thing because I had never met anybody from my job.
And this guy gave me the companyand just kind of showed me the
(53:53):
ropes. And I thought, wouldn't it be
interesting if everybody was a hit man?
You know what I mean? And.
And the running joke in our family was like always kind of
like. Because he traveled weird, which
now I traveled he. Would come in to town like I
remember we were ten, I was like10.
My my siblings were younger, obviously, but he would come in
(54:13):
and just be like, Hey, do you guys want to come to Palm
Springs for the week? And we would go to these amazing
resorts and my egg candy would be there and like they would
have these amazing pools and everything.
It was so cool. And we were just like, dude,
like this is so cool. Like we're.
We get to do that now. Yeah, now we're doing it now
like it's full circle, thinking honey and.
(54:34):
Thank you brother. And so it's just kind of like
the running joke on our family was always like, what's he
really doing? Like, why can't you just like
come and go as he pleases and like he's getting us like all
these cool hotels and like we get to go on vacations for a
week and like what? Like what's like, what does
grandpa do? Is he hit man?
And like that, obviously my grandfather, he just ran a
(54:57):
railroad for a woman and built that whole thing up and he did
it on his back, you know, for 30years he made something out of
nothing. And that's like, but he was he
was very quiet. He was very reserved.
He was very talkative to people that he trusted and loved and
things of that nature. But, you know, it was just
(55:19):
always kind of this joke that wewere just like, what do you
really do? Because we don't know what to
do. Like, we never seen you at your
job. You know, you just tell us you
go working on the railroad. So, yeah, it was.
I mean, I'll never, ever, ever forget like when my grandpa
called me and said, you know, would Jacob be interested in
something like this? And then when they started
calling you Jaker, I just remember like that was it.
(55:42):
That's when I knew my grandpa trusted you and he believed in
you and he saw it in you to takethis where it needed to be.
Because he was a very forthrightman.
He was very honest. He was very secure in who he was
as a person. He was a good person.
And I just remembered when he was, he was so proud of you and
(56:05):
your guys's talks lit him up, like when he was sick, not
feeling good when you would callhim, it lit him up for the week.
You know, it made him feel sick.Or when you took him on that
week when you just pick. Yeah.
And he said, like, that was one of the best times that he had
had and so long. And he just, I just try.
(56:27):
It made me feel more secure in our relationship as well.
I mean, I know we had been married and had baby at this
point. Of course I felt secure, but it
made me feel, I guess, good in my heart that my grandpa felt so
good in his heart about you. And I remember when it was that
last day he said to you, no matter what happens between you
and Beth, just like me and Millie, no matter what happens,
(56:51):
you always make sure you take care of my granddaughter.
And I know that you took it serious.
And I remember at his funeral when you spoke like that whole
room got quiet and it was real. And I just that mutual respect
was always there. There's a stoic thing coming in
(57:13):
and starting a career on day onefor somebody that's literally
spent their entire life buildinga company.
There's a very stoic that you just kind of have to shut the
fuck up and you don't know shit and just sit there and what.
And one of the my favorite things about your grandpa when
he was talking to me about the railroad was, you know, it's
like he was training me and he he's not a any words.
(57:34):
And so he, he was like, Hey, if it looks fucked up, it's
probably fucked up. And so my whole all my knowledge
from. Working on the road, I've never
heard my grandfather. Really, Jonal, pretty Jonal like
this because he's worked on the railroad.
Is is, Yeah, If it looks fucked up, it's probably fucked up.
That's my whole. That was my whole.
That was my whole one week. My whole life, like he tried to
give me a promise. Reindeer.
(57:56):
Yeah, he wasn't. Like that with us.
And so, I mean, I just though isn't an impactful part of my
relationship with your grandfather that changed my life
and and fuck, everything we get to do is because of that.
I know it's like crazy. All the things that we've got to
take our kids to do and everything we've got to
experience. It's been, it's been a beautiful
(58:19):
ride, railroad ride. It has been, but you did like
the book. Oh, I love the book.
I think it was like, it's crazy how much, like I said, that's
why I think you're like John Wick in that way, because it's
very much like that kind of world.
But in a lot of ways, there's somuch of me and my husband in
there that is real, you know? OK, so I got another question.
(58:41):
OK, who if we had a podcast together, just you and me, what
would it be called? And you can say bad words if you
want. I'm not saying you need to say a
bad word right now, but. Oh God, I don't know.
Probably be like something raunchy.
Probably be like the Naked girl podcast.
(59:04):
Oh, there it goes. The BJ podcast it'd.
Probably be the naked girls bandpodcast.
The naked girls band podcast because.
You loved the Naked Brothers Band.
I did. That was cool.
Yeah, but it was before your time.
OK, it was after my time, baby. Yeah, that's what I meant.
Uh huh. On road trips, who is the DJ?
(59:25):
Me Sometimes you want to be DJ, but not most of the time, are
you? All right, if we swap jobs for
the day, what is it that you think I do?
The thing that you go and talk to Travis and you'll go and walk
the. Road Travis is one guy.
(59:46):
OK. Well, I don't really know all
the rest of them because there'slike 40 million people that call
you, you work 15 states. So I don't really know how to
sum that up. But you walk around the track
and you check frog and switch points and if they're have bad
stuff on it, then you send Joey to.
(01:00:08):
Yeah. Then you send Joey to Weld it
with the manganese stuff. Yeah.
And then you. Some of them are manganese,
yeah. And then you fix them.
Well, like you tell people or you say you can't do anything
'cause you your shit's bad. I lock them out of the truck.
Yeah, that part, yeah. And you just like look at snakes
(01:00:31):
and stuff. I'd see a lot of snakes.
'Cause you send me those and deers and donkeys and donkeys
and horses and. Lots of horses.
And that's what I think you do. Yeah, I definitely do.
That and you walk around a lot. What do you think?
I do like my job? I think it's baby making.
(01:00:55):
Yeah, you do a lot of things. OK.
Like what do you think? Well, I think you like answer
the phones for your dad and helprun his business, but like but
your job is like. Was my job.
Just being a great mom and a fucking dope wife and just being
(01:01:17):
a being always saying yes. I am a yes man.
Yeah, OK, I got another one. OK.
If we got separated, which one of us is more likely to survive
the zombie apocalypse? What?
Why are we going to be separatedin it?
You said we had a plan and we have a bunker and stuff.
(01:01:39):
What are? We talking about?
Don't talk. About the bunker, Nobody can
know where the bunker is. I don't care.
Why are we going to be separated?
OK? I would win because, listen, I
would do what Michelle did and Iwould fucking chop them
motherfucking arms off and put them on leashes and I'd be
having them zombies fucking get me through all the
motherfuckers. You walked up the stairs today
and you were out of breath. Not because I just smoked
(01:02:05):
marijuana. And obviously with zombie pucks,
marijuana would be probably on my lower list of problems.
It would still be your problem people, and I would still need
to find it, but I would be in like fucking mode.
I would be killing. You are pretty.
(01:02:25):
I wouldn't. Get to fuck the zombies, Jacob.
Right, so you. I'm not like taking deals like
that, you know what I mean? If our marriage had a theme
song, what would it be? Our marriage theme song is.
(01:02:51):
It would like either be like from the early days when you
used to love Mac Miller, or it would be Frank Sinatra.
What's? Sinatra song.
My grandpa's son. Which one I can think of the
name baby. Think of it for me that Elvis
Presley made that's in our favorite movie.
Nobody if I oh. My God, no, you can't put me on
(01:03:12):
the spot. On.
The show. Say it, bitch.
Oh my God. Call Claire.
She knows it. Oh, that's that would be our
theme song. I just can't think of it.
Hey, Siri, what's the Frank Sinatra song that Elvis Presley
remade? Thank you.
(01:03:33):
No, you stupid bitch. I don't know it, but that's what
it would be. Me.
I don't. Think that was Sinatra my way?
My way. OK, thanks.
It's our way. Always and forever.
It's our way. I just want to say thank you for
being my wife and putting up with all the crazy shit that
I've put our family through for the last eight years and let me
(01:03:54):
figure out how to fuck it up. So I hello. 11.
You could do it right. Baby, you didn't fuck it up.
You fucked it up beautifully. I appreciate you, You are a
wonderful partner and I love youand.
(01:04:15):
Is this your wedding? You look pretty good in Nate
that outfit. We're married, baby.
I OK, well, bye. I love you too.
And I'm appreciative of you and I'm really, really proud of you.
Thank you, baby. I need a kill in that.
All right, I love you. This is actually your
intervention, so just kidding. Well guys, tune into the next
(01:04:36):
episode. See what I'm doing then.
No, I'm just kidding.
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