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Speaker 1 (00:07):
I know you're shocks, but we're rolling into day twenty
two of a government shutdown. In fact, it's so bad
for some families they are lining up at food pantries
to get the necessary food they need to feed their families.
A couple of great authors coming up in authors Corner,
(00:27):
plus your thoughts in the mail Bag, and a pre
market bell Netflix with incredible earnings, and some others checked
in what was it like on the market. I'm Kate Delaney.
Welcome to this version of all the things that we
do here. And you know we kick it off on
ATM with the rundown. Yeah, so we hit this from
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a couple of different angles. I mean, there are a
lot of services that are shut down. There are a
lot of people that are worried about their healthcare. There
are a lot of people, frankly that have been furload
and they're not getting paid and for some it's getting
that much worse as this continues to go on. Here's
the thoughts of a few people sharing what's going on
(01:16):
in their world.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Technically, I actually work for the government, so right now
I'm fur load, but technically stopped it going into work
because I'm essential, So just waiting for a paycheck.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
We lost about thirty or thirty five percent of our
business and the shutdown started, which is a huge.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Number considering we are a very small, faily old business.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
There's market uncertainty around it that's kind of halting everything,
which affects everybody. It's going to have reaching effects into
the economy and even things long term, like you know,
detriment to the park system.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I tried to make some phone calls regarding like my
Medicare health insurance, and I was not able to get
through to anybody. And I do have supreme questions I
need to be answered, and I do have small children
as well, so let's be concerning.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, so right now, at this point, there doesn't seem
to be anybody with any great ideas to say, yeah,
I'm pretty sure that this is going to work. I
think we're getting closer to the government being open. No,
all the updates are negative, as you know. The other
day on Monday, the eleventh time, Senate Democrats shut down
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the bill to fund the government that would have ended
the government shutdown in its third week. And the Democrats say,
this is about healthcare. Let's negotiate, let's have that conversation.
I think it's pretty obvious they don't trust the Republicans.
That's part of what the deal is here. John Fetterman
had his own take on what's being discussed the Democrat
(02:52):
Senate Democrat from Pennsylvania, and that is nuking the filibuster
to get things moving again.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
We ran on killing the f of us. Are now
we love it. You know, it's like carve it out
so we can move on. And I support it because
it makes it more difficult to shut the government down
in the future, and that's where it's entirely appropriate.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I here's some stats for you to cheer on. The
current shutdown is the fifteenth since nineteen eighty one. It's
tied for the second longest in our history the twenty
one days. The prior standoff lasted December, from December of
ninety five to January of ninety six. That was between
the Republican controlled Congress and then President Bill Clinton, the Democrat,
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for how to balance the budget. So there are no
votes scheduled on Capitol Hill. There wasn't any. On Tuesday,
Senate Republicans were at a luncheon at the White House,
and you know, part of that luncheon there was the
President was thanking them for fighting to keep the government
shut down, basically the shutdown fight. In other words, their
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part in staying with what they think is the right.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
Way to go.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
And you look at what's happened with services, it's it's
seven hundred and fifty thousand federal workers that have been
furloughed and ordered not to report to work. So it's
the employees that are essential to public safety. That's military personnel,
law enforcement officers, border patrol, air traffic controllers. They're required
to work regardless, you know, pay, no pay, whatever the
(04:27):
circumstances are there. And I'll say it again, so you know,
it's just plain. Democrats are pushing to ensure tax breaks
for twenty four million Americans who buy insurance through the
Affordable Care Act, and they've refused to back a government
spending bill that doesn't address the issue. They want to
make the tax break permanent, which would otherwise expire at
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the end of the year, and provide reassurances that they
there would be no temporary withholding of money. Republicans say
they are open the considering a fix for the expiring
ACA tax breaks, but they want the issue addressed separately
from ongoing budget concerns the impasse, and they're saying that
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the Democrats proposal could partially pay for health coverage for
people who are in the country illegally. The Congressional Budget Office,
the non partisan Congressional Budget Office, is that's not true.
So the Social Security Administration keeps issuing retirement and disability benefits,
but they're going to furlough rather twelve percent of their
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staff and pause marketing campaigns. Payments continue under the Medicare
and Medicaid health programs. The US Postal services open because
they don't depend on Congress for funding. But you got
thirteen thousand air traffic controllers and fifty thousand Transportation Security
Administration officers who are required to show up. Neither group,
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even though there's been discussions about this, neither group expect
to be paid until Congress approves a budget deal. The
Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, the nation's largest food aid program,
and the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for women, infants, and children,
known as WICC. They continue operations as the money is there,
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but some of that apparently is starting to run out.
They're talking about lack of funds for November in places
like North Carolina, Wisconsin, n Minnesota. Now, there was an
executive order directing the Pentagon to ensure active duty military
people are paid despite the shutdown. So one point three
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million active duty military did not get paid or did
get paid rather on October fifteen. So that's fifty five
percent of the defense departments seven hundred and forty thousand
civilian employees you know that have been furloughed that work
in various jobs, Civilians working in cybersecurity, medical care, weapons
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system maintenance, that kind of thing. They're not included in
the active duty personnel. And then you have the Department
of Homeland Security. Only five percent of the workers have
been furloughed, including those involved in research, planning, training, and auditing.
The Department of Homeland Security confirmed on October sixteenth that
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more than seventy thousand sworn law enforcement officers across the department,
including Customs and Border Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Secret Service, Transportation,
Security Administration, and other critical mission areas, will be paid
for all the hours worked during the shutdown. So you
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got the skinny on that. That is where we are at,
ladies and gentlemen, And I don't see anything this prolonged shutdown.
I don't see anything that's going to cause this to
change in any different way. You want to hear about
the weather, boy, it's been a long time since I
feel like since I've talked about the weather. I mean
(08:06):
meaning a couple of days really. But tropical store Melissa
has formed in the Atlantic, and so what does that mean.
It's going to stay away from mainland US and really
pose the biggest threat to Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica,
and Cuba. It might impact Puerto Rico as well. It's
(08:27):
churning over the Caribbean and that means heavy rain, strong winds,
rough surf, all of that. They're even talking about up
to ten inches of rain possible by Friday and the
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Speaker 1 (12:18):
If you don't have to dig very far. I know
I always say that, but it is true. Let's go
to this one from Ellen and Ellen is listening to
us in the Great State of Connecticut on WGC fourteen
ninety a m. She says, Kate, I'm just sick of it.
(12:42):
I am with you when you say get involved in
politics instead of burying your head like an ostrich. If
you don't like the people representing you, if it seems
like it's a constant logjam, then pay attention to who
you are electing. My friends, encourage the people who want
to work together to represent you. It's great to have
a difference of opinion, and of course we should be
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able to stand up for our rights, but there should
also be some compromise. Without compromise, how can any government
move forward. I'm a lifelong Republican. There's a lot of
things Democrats vote for and do that I cannot stand.
But if I were representing my party on the hill,
I would try, like you know what, to find a
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way through this. Instead of consistently holding up what could
be some important legislation that hasn't even been discussed because
nothing is really happening. And that's the tragedy in all
of it. Well said, that is the tragedy in all
(13:51):
of that. And it is tough. I mean, listen, it
is hardball when you're talking about when you're talking about
now politics, it's hardball, absolutely, And of course you you
should be able to stand up for your right, to
stand up for what you believe in, but you do
have to find compromise. There is an arch to compromise.
(14:16):
It's not tossing in the ball, tossing in the towel,
all of that. But there has to be a way
forward because if there isn't a way forward, where are we?
I mean seriously, where are we if there is no
way forward? All right, how about this one? This one
is from this one? Is this one is from Michael.
(14:40):
Easy for me to say, right, and Michael is listening
to us in the desert in Tucson, Arizona kvo I
ten thirty a m And Michael says, Kate, I'm gonna
go light on you, girlfriend. I have two daughters and
(15:03):
a son and they're all under the age of ten,
so you know, we're doing that trick or treat thing. Man,
these kids in the Halloween costumes they want It seems
that my son, no matter what, wants to be some
kind of a superhero. Whoever the superhero of the moment
is that he wanted to be Deadpool, but we kind
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of x Neye that he's going to an old school
hero Iron Man. And the two girls are doing something
completely different. One is Taylor Swift. H Taylor Swift. That
was pretty easy for us to put that costume together,
I should say, for my wife to put that costume together.
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And my other little girl, who is as precious as
can be five years old, wants to be the Good
Witch because she's all into Wicked. So that wasn't much
of a stretch for us either. But it's gonna be
interesting to trick or treat. We do have one of
those neighborhoods that you were talking about. That, isn't it great?
You can do the old fashioned thing where you know
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some of the neighbors. You walk down the street, people
say hi, you have conversation, They get excited about the costumes,
and you yell out that familiar phrase trick or treat. Although,
as I tell my kids, don't yell.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Be polite.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
My favorite candy, by the way, is twis What's yours? Oh,
I'm so glad you were paying attention. I love that
about your kids. Twist is pretty good. I this candy
is so tough, right, I think you can get so
addicted to it. I think I said this the other night.
(16:44):
I like Twizzlers. Twizzlers would be dangerous for me. I
could look at a pack. I could be sitting there
watching a watching a movie and or watching a game,
and you got the pack of Twizzlers. Who in fact,
I mean seriously, it's like I I like to say,
it's like that wood chipper effect where you just keep
you're not even realizing you're watching. You're involved, it's great,
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you're relaxing, and then you look down it's like, WHOA,
how many did I have? So I just pull some,
just very few aside and put the rest away because
I know what the results of that would be. So
thanks thanks for bringing that up. All right, Then we
go into this one, and this is Kevin who is
listening to us CACAA in California KCAA, of course, is
(17:36):
ten fifty AM and one O six point five FM
in and around low Melinda, Yeah, and Kate, I have
to tell you, I'm a big fan of the show.
One of my buddies used to listen to you on
NBC and he was telling me that he had heard
you a couple of months ago and he thought the
(17:59):
man Cave was funny. And he, by the way, says
he will call in. I'm going to hold him too,
and he says he's going to call in on your
Game of the Week thing. But as much as I
want to talk about sports in that Game seven and
the NBA and NFL, I wanted to talk about something
else instead. Really sad what happened in Atlanta and the
(18:23):
fact that you have obviously a guy who's not right,
who decides that he's going to take his ammunition and
rifle and you go into the airport and end some lives.
And wouldn't that be a tragedy? Can you imagine if
that had happened. Of course they would have taken him out,
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but how many people could he have killed or maimed
before that that happened.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
And good on.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
The family for hearing about the live stream that apparently
he was doing and putting an end to that because
we have been talking about something that is incredibly sad
and catastrophic, and you say it on your show. I've
heard it at least once or twice in the six
months or so I've been listening to you where you
talk about can't we have these areas? Why is it
(19:14):
that we go to church or go to school, or
we're going about our eyves trying to get from point
A to point B, and then suddenly our lives are
destroyed because somebody decides that they are going to take
out their rage randomly on a group of people they
have no connection to whatsoever.
Speaker 12 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Random rage. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Random rage, and it's awful when that happens. I mean,
you know, you know the history of all of this.
But hey, the good news is is, yes, absolutely the
family reported it. He was in the airport staking it around.
You know, he walked in, he looked like any other person.
He just kind of blends it in. So the good
news is is that that was stopped and he's gonna
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be doing some time for sure. Absolutely. All right, let's
go to and thank you for all those emails. You
can send me your thoughts, you can see on anything.
Kate at Katedalaney Radio dot com. Kate at katedalaneyradio dot com.
Just click on contact. That's how you get in touch
with us. So let's go to the pre market bell. Yes,
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so the pre market bell. It's interesting because there's a
lot of interesting earnings. I gotta mention this about Netflix.
Netflix shares dropped after they missed their earnings estimates, even
though it seemed really high, like what they talked about,
what they what they thought they were gonna hit, though
didn't hit completely what it was. I mean, so their
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shares fell seven I think it was. Yeah, it was
seven percent in extended trading on Tuesday after the third
quarter earnings missed. There's been this ongoing dispute with Brazilian
tax authorities for the weaker than estimated results, So go
figure that out. The streamer said. The specific expense stemmed
from a ten percent tax on certain payments made by
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these Brazilian entities for operations outside the country.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
YadA YadA, yah.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
We could go deep down that rabbit hole, but it's
a whole legal thing. So the third quarter, though row
seventeen percent, in line with the expectations, boosted by membership growth, pricing,
adjustments and increased AD revenue for the fourth quarter. Netflix
expects revenue to rise seventeen percent year over year as
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those trends continue. So how about that again, not a
surprise if you look at it from you know, if
you look at it from that angle. All right, let's
look at there were some other earnings I wanted to
look at. M Let's look at I'm not going to
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do that. I'm afraid if I get too in the
weeds with you, you'll say, what are you doing taking us
down this path? We'll do that one night. But DOW
futures are up point eleven percent, SMP futures are up
point sixteen percent, NASDAK futures point eight percent, and oil
is up a couple of bucks since we last met,
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fifty eight dollars and thirty cents. And my friends, what
did I say? Fifty eight dollars and thirty cents coming
up next? We've but introduce you to an interesting boxer
is going to blow your mind. His story next.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
On the show office, Colonner, see I still thout the
books they rose.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So the name of the book is small Town Boxer,
And Mike Susky joins us here on author's Corner on
America Tonight with me Kate Delaney. This book takes you
on such a twisted wild ride. What an incredibly talented
individual he was. Think boxing, and it's not just boxing,
because there were so many other things that happened to
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him in his life at one point, and he talks
about this. He says, he fell into the ashes of
despair and was, you know, at the bottom of the bottom,
and boxing took away his ability to sometimes talk comprehensively.
And we've had other boxers on the show, so we
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understand that. But all his glory, all the things he's done,
the people that he worked with, so incredible. His best buddy,
Chris Bird, you may know from Olympic Times, just great,
great stories. You can get his book on Amazon. Go there.
Small Town Boxer once again, Mike, thanks for coming on
to share your story.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
Well, I'd love to do it.
Speaker 13 (24:07):
This is I'm very thankful.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So how did boxing start for you because you kind
of grew up in a really rough and tumbled neighborhood, right,
is that part of it? And then plus your father's
success as a wrestler.
Speaker 14 (24:19):
Yeah, my father is one of the greatest amateurssers in
history fifty three and Oho all pins and zeros.
Speaker 13 (24:25):
If you start on me, pinned you. If you went
the distance, he set you out.
Speaker 14 (24:29):
And then so I grew up wrestling and then as
you know, I was aricant.
Speaker 13 (24:34):
I could, that was real.
Speaker 14 (24:35):
Tough, and I went hands with a black belt, that's
you know, and he gave me a black guy.
Speaker 12 (24:40):
And then that's what got me into boxing.
Speaker 13 (24:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
So actually the wrestling and because of his background, it
made you a better boxer, made you better prepared, right
to back everything up, Yeah, it.
Speaker 13 (24:52):
Was insane what I did.
Speaker 14 (24:54):
I went a national championship in my second boxing tournament.
Speaker 13 (24:58):
Wow. My first boxing tournament was the Junior Olympics. That's
the hands down the biggest one.
Speaker 14 (25:03):
And I beat the guy that had seventy wins, five losses,
six national titles, and I was two and oh two
first round knockouts and I beat the guy. I beat
the guy that was seventy with two wins.
Speaker 13 (25:14):
I beat the guy had seventy wins.
Speaker 14 (25:16):
And five losses, and I was five or six national titles,
you know, And so that that's credited to wrestling.
Speaker 12 (25:25):
And had I not wrestled that that would have never happened.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, and you know you were cruiserweight for people listening,
and you can go look them up on Facebook and
we'll tell you about that.
Speaker 14 (25:35):
But just in the pros and the prose, I in
the prose eye cruiserweight, but in the amateurs, I you know,
mostly middleweight, as middleweight national champion twice.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So wow, just unbelievable. And you know, you, you and
I talked off there. We had a great long conversation.
We talked about the places that you fought and the
things that you saw. And at one point, you know,
you were in you were in Michigan. You were fighting
at the place that people talk about all the time,
(26:05):
the Palace, right, Yeah.
Speaker 14 (26:07):
Yeah, I had one of the They announced that one
of the greatest fights ever fought here at the Palace.
They went and got a Russian to Jackie Kaalin, who
was in a movie starring Meg Ryan's played my promoter's
part against the Ropes, and Jackie went and got a
world champion Russian to knock me out, and I ended
up knocking him out and went down. They announced it
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one of the greatest fights ever fought here at the Palace.
Me and that Russian half killed each other, and then
I won on a TKO.
Speaker 13 (26:35):
I knocked him out.
Speaker 11 (26:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
And as we said, I mean you were winning, you
were winning big. I mean you had it all right,
I mean your fights were televised all of that.
Speaker 13 (26:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 14 (26:48):
I was ranked in the world, but I was eleven
and zero, which this never happens. I was eleven and
zero and ranked ten in the world by the WBO.
That's really rare. Yeah yeah, it's some really great. Like
I said, I set world records on ESPN and then
on Fox Sports Net in the national TV. I fought
that Russian and they announced that one of the greatest
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fights ever. And you know it's endless. I knocker guy
out twice. If you will look at my korel on
my Facebook page, I have really entertaining knockouts, very unusual.
I knocker guy out, he gets counted out, and the
referee kind of messed up. He went to collect the
scorecards and the guy comes at me, not knowing the
fight was over, and I'm looking at him.
Speaker 12 (27:29):
You know, I just knocked him out, and so he
wasn't all there.
Speaker 14 (27:32):
So I just tapped his gloves and he literally fell
straight back, stiff as a board on his head.
Speaker 11 (27:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
And you know what it's it's interesting too because you
had great friends in boxing that you met and I
mentioned one of them. You talked about him and got
to me Chris Bird family.
Speaker 13 (27:48):
We're brothers.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
I mean Chris, Chris had five brothers.
Speaker 13 (27:53):
You know, a part of that gang.
Speaker 12 (27:54):
The Joe Bird was the Olympic head coach ninety two.
Speaker 13 (27:57):
That was my coach.
Speaker 14 (27:59):
And by the grace of God, we went. That's the
first gym I went to. Was was Flint Pale run
by Joe Bird. And then and uh, Joe Bird was
took me in. You know, next thing, you know, he's
driving me all over the country. You know, my family,
the Birds are the greatest people I know on earth.
Speaker 13 (28:20):
This is awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And you told me about Roseburn. She was like a
great corner woman.
Speaker 13 (28:26):
She's a good second mother. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean the Bird boys, that relationship, how they lifted
you up, what they did, that's all part of this
book Small Town Boxer for you, Rosebird.
Speaker 12 (28:41):
I know where you're getting to. Rose Bird worked my corner.
Speaker 14 (28:45):
I won the International Black Expo was you know as
a big tournament at the Hoosier Dome and Rose Bird
was my corner man.
Speaker 11 (28:51):
Wow.
Speaker 13 (28:53):
Wow, yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
And and it's interesting too for you. So when you
knew you had it, you had this incredible your physique,
the way you work, the way you train. What was
your signature move?
Speaker 12 (29:09):
Well, I set world records on ESPN punched that.
Speaker 13 (29:13):
I was real good with combinations.
Speaker 14 (29:16):
My signature move was if you got in a ring
with me, I was gonna be throwing a lot of punches.
Speaker 13 (29:20):
I hit a guy. These are world records in the
Cruisewet division.
Speaker 14 (29:25):
I threw one hundred and thirty nine punches and I
hit the guy eighty eight times and both of those
world punched at records. So I was just you know,
And I grew up with Chris Bird, sparring with Chris Bird,
heavy world champ.
Speaker 12 (29:39):
I grew up with him, and you had to do
that or he would kill you.
Speaker 11 (29:44):
You know.
Speaker 14 (29:44):
You had to throw punches constantly and uh and then
he I learned to get inside and roll with my
shoulders to put him off balance so he couldn't hit me.
Speaker 13 (29:53):
Back, you know.
Speaker 14 (29:54):
And it worked sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. I'm
not saying you know up Chris by no means, but
you know, I learned a lot, for sure working with
Flimpeal Joe birds.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, and so you had all the success and of
course all the things that come along with it, a
lot of female companionship that go to these great.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
Logos, right.
Speaker 12 (30:17):
No, no, no, a lot of time out.
Speaker 11 (30:19):
No.
Speaker 14 (30:20):
I just had one girlfriend through high school. I loved her.
It's my first love, Karen Co.
Speaker 12 (30:27):
She ended up dying, uh after after our relationship, and
it was real.
Speaker 13 (30:32):
Heavy on me for sure. Wow.
Speaker 14 (30:34):
And I had a problem with their family, you know,
and they made a break up with me, and then
I was out of the country when she died. I
come home and I went over to the house, you know,
because I didn't want to think that her family didn't
think I was going to be there, you know.
Speaker 12 (30:51):
And like I said, she's my first love. We did
all through high school.
Speaker 13 (30:54):
Wow. And so I answered the back door.
Speaker 14 (30:56):
Only only people know you go through the garage and
knock on the back door, and only people they know
do that. And then the father answered the door. We
just looked at each other and cried. We hugged each other.
We we hugged each other and then cried together.
Speaker 12 (31:14):
And then and then he had a gym and I,
you know, I.
Speaker 14 (31:19):
Was training people and I trained them for for a
couple of years in my gym, and we were like,
we were like family. He'd sit down and have coffee
with my parents and everything.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
What what was it like training people because you had
such great power in the ring. Was it fun for
you to make that transition?
Speaker 13 (31:37):
Oh? Yeah, it was.
Speaker 14 (31:38):
It was you know, I was real knowledgeable think you know,
I was always picking up knowledge. And then you know,
my and then after my pro career, you know, it's like,
you know, working out was this part of my life.
Speaker 13 (31:50):
So you know, I.
Speaker 14 (31:51):
Ended up having a gym and then and then, uh,
in Michigan, I had a gym.
Speaker 12 (31:57):
In the back of my dad. My dad was a
builder and he built the gym on the back of
his house for us, for me anyways, and then and then.
Speaker 13 (32:06):
I moved to Arizona. I have my own gym too.
Speaker 12 (32:09):
So it's just uh, you know, physicality, you know.
Speaker 14 (32:12):
I was always working out, always running, always doing push ups,
always doing pull ups, and it just morphed into you know,
a bigger knowledge of of you know. And then I'd
look in the diets with the heat, but not the heat,
you know, your sleep patterns. I looked into everything on
your health and then I got to be the top
(32:33):
training in the nation. I got voted top training in
the Nation twice at Elie Fitness.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So when you look at the boxing game, now, what
do you think of it?
Speaker 12 (32:44):
It's nothing like it's just you know what happened.
Speaker 14 (32:48):
The UFC took a big bite out of the out
of boxing.
Speaker 13 (32:52):
A lot of your great fighters.
Speaker 12 (32:55):
You know, UFC is is ruining.
Speaker 14 (32:59):
I don't know, these guys can't fight nothing like the
UFC's ruining with today's boxing, you know, compared to you know,
compared to my day, eighties and nineties, even the seventies,
you know boxes. You know, like I said, the UFC
just took a lot of talent out of boxing for sure.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (33:19):
Yeah, I don't blame him.
Speaker 14 (33:20):
You know I would have been, you know, because I
grew up wrestling and i'd get into boxing I had
you know, I probably would have been a UFC fighter.
Speaker 12 (33:28):
If it was around exactly, had that opportunity.
Speaker 14 (33:31):
Yeah, if I had that opportunity that you know, that
is you know, I love the street fight, so that'd
be I knocked out four four big football players downtown
downtown Flint, a big bar fight.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yes, you definitely had that power. Hey, we're running out
of time. I want to make sure we do this
because there's so many other things in the book. You
got to get the book because you'll learn about the
fact that he was also for a time Donald Trump's bodyguard,
and so many other crazy stories that happened. The name
of the book A small town boxer. Tell us where
we can go to see those awesome fights on faceboo book.
Speaker 14 (34:01):
Oh well, going to go to Michael Susky s Uski,
then in bracket to be Mike Suska s Uska and
you can look at uh, you can see a knockout
real and then I'm an actor too, as in some movies.
Speaker 13 (34:18):
And I got a movie coming up right now.
Speaker 14 (34:20):
I have to go over over a Hollywood premiere. I
have to go over to Hollywood and watch the movie.
I was just saying, well, I did it years ago
and now it's just coming out a big movie.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Nice. Well, we can't wait for that continued success. Michael,
you were terrific. Thank you so much.
Speaker 12 (34:37):
Thank you, and you guys are great.
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Speaker 1 (38:00):
Recently, Cook joins us and boy, what a personality and
what a book. The name of her book is My
Spirituality of Nature, the relationship of spirituality and nature in
your life. I so believe in the very same thing.
And this is what we're featuring an author's corner here
in America tonight with me, Kate Delaney, Maurice, thanks so
(38:20):
much for coming on.
Speaker 18 (38:22):
Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
So when did you realize just even the title says
it all, when did you realize there was such a
symbiotic relationship between spirituality and of course what we see
in nature.
Speaker 18 (38:37):
It was what I would call a gradual awakening. It
happened started happening, probably in my twenties, and I just
started taking note of what was around me and I
made notes, not understanding at all that this would evolve
into a book. So I just appreciated so much being
(39:03):
with nature and outside, with animals especially, and I began
to notice some connections. I mean, not everything was totally
separate from the next. A man has a dog, a
woman has a cat, a cat has a flea, A
flea grows on grass somewhere.
Speaker 11 (39:25):
Where did all this come from.
Speaker 18 (39:26):
It didn't just spring up overnight, and it had to
come from an intention.
Speaker 13 (39:33):
Not.
Speaker 18 (39:33):
It wasn't just oh gee, look at that, nice, nice mistake,
nice surprise. No, it purposefully planned.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yep, purposely planned. I love that, and you talk about it.
You invite us to take really what you call a
phenomenal journey with you and seek out creation, God's creations.
And wouldn't people even in their life when they're so
stressed and so busy, And you know, you had a
busy career, all these different social work positions in healthcare
(40:04):
and in education, the degrees that you went through, the bachelor's,
the Masters, the clinical social work, which is a lot
of hours. And did that give you comfort?
Speaker 11 (40:15):
It opened doors for me.
Speaker 18 (40:18):
Every step that I took I very you know, it
was just mine.
Speaker 11 (40:23):
Nobody was pushing me.
Speaker 18 (40:25):
There were no previous Oh there were eighty five thousand
social workers in the family, so you have to be
one too. Kind of thing. It was all mine.
Speaker 11 (40:35):
It was my desire.
Speaker 18 (40:40):
It was I gosh, I don't know destiny.
Speaker 11 (40:45):
It was your destiny.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
You knew it, and you pursued it, even though that
wasn't something in your background.
Speaker 18 (40:51):
Exactly. Yes, you said it much better than I was standing.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Now you're saying it, You're saying it right. And so
it's interesting because in your twenties you had that realization.
Your eyes started to get open to what you were
seeing around you because you opened your eyes. So tell
us about the book, and when people read the book,
what can they expect.
Speaker 18 (41:10):
First of all, my desire in writing the book was
not about, oh boy, I'm going to be famous there,
oh boy, I'm going to make billions of dollars. My
goal always was some force greater than myself planned this
vision within me, and as a vision developed, I knew
(41:34):
that it was not meant for me.
Speaker 11 (41:36):
Alone that what I.
Speaker 18 (41:38):
Was essentially was an do it if you will, to
put a message together that was meant to go to
as many living beings as would have it.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Well, and you definitely. I mean, people can get this
book for a song of Kindle version pack however they
want it on Amazon and there so beautiful because you
talk about you've always been around animals, and I asked
you this question. We talked off air what your favorite
animals were, and I think you and I have that
in common, right, Zebras and giraffes.
Speaker 11 (42:13):
Yeah, yeah, I do love them.
Speaker 18 (42:15):
I love cats too, but zebras and giraffes have a
special draw and I'm not sure why, but I do
think part of it is because each of them has
been imprinted with a very recognizable sign, and not all
(42:37):
of us have that. Some of us are good at
being recognized for what we are, for who we are, and.
Speaker 11 (42:46):
We're proud of that.
Speaker 18 (42:47):
Other people don't have a clue, and I think that's
most people do not have a clue who they are,
how strong they can be, how beautiful they are, how
connected they are and sorry.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
And thinking about the connection. No, that's okay, I agree,
it's it. I understand, you know, thinking about that and
how overwhelming it is, but you know, the connection is
so important, the meaning and the connection, and you again,
you talk about this in the book and imagine if
people could appreciate the planet more.
Speaker 18 (43:21):
Yes, I mean if even if they don't realize that
the planet is essentially their lifeline. If people don't realize that,
if they just realize that there's beauty there and let's
help keep the beauty going, that helps keep all keeps
(43:41):
all of us going. And hopefully, though, what more people
will recognize is that if we don't sustain the planet,
the planet will not be able to sustain us.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Boy, isn't that the truth? And again the name of
the book is My Spirituality of Nature, the relationship of
spirituality and nature in your life.
Speaker 18 (44:01):
And you were a journaler, right, Yes, yes I was?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
And so by journaling, did you were you able to
pull a little bit from the journal when you when
you said you never thought you'd write a book, and
then you put it together exactly.
Speaker 18 (44:13):
Most of my journaling for that few years went into
the book. And it was a revelation to me that
my journaling was actually headed that way. I didn't know
it until the book was in front of me and
I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yeah, what did it feel like when when it was finished,
when you had when the book was done, when while
all of a sudden, I have a book, did it
feel like, this is pretty cool? I'm putting this out
into the world. Like you said, it wasn't about money
or ego, but it had to feel good that you
accomplished that.
Speaker 18 (44:50):
Yes, in it, you know, and it was still a
lot of personal hard work, but that's been my life,
so that wasn't a bit revelation. What I didn't understand though,
in the process was that the publishing of the book
has been very difficult and very costly in ways that
(45:13):
I didn't think.
Speaker 11 (45:14):
It would be.
Speaker 18 (45:15):
I thought, well, we'll just go out there, call a publisher,
slap a name on it, and there you go.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
That's what you would be even more proud because you
persevered and like you said, that's nothing new, that's what
you've done in your life.
Speaker 11 (45:28):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm so glad I did it.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
You're getting the word out and it's out there, like
I said, on Amazon, and people can get the book
on kindle or paperback. You know, it's very easy to
get if you're all listening to us. The cover is beautiful,
and the concept of what we've been talking about is
so wonderful. Who is Nature? Who am I? How are
we connected? These are all the things that you talk about,
(45:54):
and there's so few connections for people these days. That's
why I think your book is so important, because you
can always connect to nature. You can always get up
out of your desk, you can always shake yourself off
out of the situation you're in. And you discovered that,
didn't you.
Speaker 18 (46:12):
Yes, I sure did. And it was nobody directing me.
It was you know, what Nature's telling me what to
do the time.
Speaker 11 (46:22):
The days or whatever.
Speaker 18 (46:23):
That I realized or that I understood that nature was
pulling at me, that was like, Oh my God, the
doors of the universe were flung open, and all of
a sudden, for that moment, I felt everything that the
planet felt.
Speaker 11 (46:43):
I really believed that for that moment.
Speaker 18 (46:47):
And at different times since I've written the book and
before that, I've had these connections that felt exceedingly strong
with the natural world.
Speaker 11 (46:57):
And that's my spirituality.
Speaker 18 (47:00):
That's me discovering how I can relate to nature, to
the planet, and how I can show or demonstrate or
feel or present to other people how important it is
and how easy it is.
Speaker 13 (47:16):
To do.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Right open your eyes.
Speaker 11 (47:21):
Yeah, and you don't have.
Speaker 18 (47:22):
To spend you know, thousands of dollars to go out
and look at the sunset, or go pick a flower
in your backyard, or put a dollar in the pocket
as somebody who needs it that doesn't have it, maybe
they'll be able to see the earth a little brighter
for a second.
Speaker 11 (47:41):
Well, there's a lot we can do.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Absolutely perfect place to end this, there's a lot we
can do. Go get Maurice Elaine Cook's book. It is
just and it's a beautiful cover. I mean seriously, you
open the cover and you know you're into a whole
new world. Maurice, thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 18 (47:59):
Thank you for having I enjoy speaking with you. I
feel like you understand. I feel like we're related. We are.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Well that's a compliment. Thank you so much. Such a
great reminder to get out in nature. Whenever you feel
like you're overwhelmed. I think every single one of us
feels that at some point in the day, take a
walk around the block, or just take a different view somewhere,
or maybe jump in the car and go eat your
lunch at the park. I've seen a lot of people
do that make you count everybody
I know you're shocks, but we're rolling into day twenty
two of a government shutdown. In fact, it's so bad
for some families they are lining up at food pantries
to get the necessary food they need to feed their families.
A couple of great authors coming up in authors Corner,
(00:27):
plus your thoughts in the mail Bag, and a pre
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in what was it like on the market. I'm Kate Delaney.
Welcome to this version of all the things that we
do here. And you know we kick it off on
ATM with the rundown. Yeah, so we hit this from
(00:52):
a couple of different angles. I mean, there are a
lot of services that are shut down. There are a
lot of people that are worried about their healthcare. There
are a lot of people, frankly that have been furload
and they're not getting paid and for some it's getting
that much worse as this continues to go on. Here's
the thoughts of a few people sharing what's going on
(01:16):
in their world.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Technically, I actually work for the government, so right now
I'm fur load, but technically stopped it going into work
because I'm essential, So just waiting for a paycheck.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
We lost about thirty or thirty five percent of our
business and the shutdown started, which is a huge.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Number considering we are a very small, faily old business.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
There's market uncertainty around it that's kind of halting everything,
which affects everybody. It's going to have reaching effects into
the economy and even things long term, like you know,
detriment to the park system.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I tried to make some phone calls regarding like my
Medicare health insurance, and I was not able to get
through to anybody. And I do have supreme questions I
need to be answered, and I do have small children
as well, so let's be concerning.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, so right now, at this point, there doesn't seem
to be anybody with any great ideas to say, yeah,
I'm pretty sure that this is going to work. I
think we're getting closer to the government being open. No,
all the updates are negative, as you know. The other
day on Monday, the eleventh time, Senate Democrats shut down
(02:30):
the bill to fund the government that would have ended
the government shutdown in its third week. And the Democrats say,
this is about healthcare. Let's negotiate, let's have that conversation.
I think it's pretty obvious they don't trust the Republicans.
That's part of what the deal is here. John Fetterman
had his own take on what's being discussed the Democrat
(02:52):
Senate Democrat from Pennsylvania, and that is nuking the filibuster
to get things moving again.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
We ran on killing the f of us. Are now
we love it. You know, it's like carve it out
so we can move on. And I support it because
it makes it more difficult to shut the government down
in the future, and that's where it's entirely appropriate.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I here's some stats for you to cheer on. The
current shutdown is the fifteenth since nineteen eighty one. It's
tied for the second longest in our history the twenty
one days. The prior standoff lasted December, from December of
ninety five to January of ninety six. That was between
the Republican controlled Congress and then President Bill Clinton, the Democrat,
(03:34):
for how to balance the budget. So there are no
votes scheduled on Capitol Hill. There wasn't any. On Tuesday,
Senate Republicans were at a luncheon at the White House,
and you know, part of that luncheon there was the
President was thanking them for fighting to keep the government
shut down, basically the shutdown fight. In other words, their
(03:57):
part in staying with what they think is the right.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
Way to go.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
And you look at what's happened with services, it's it's
seven hundred and fifty thousand federal workers that have been
furloughed and ordered not to report to work. So it's
the employees that are essential to public safety. That's military personnel,
law enforcement officers, border patrol, air traffic controllers. They're required
to work regardless, you know, pay, no pay, whatever the
(04:27):
circumstances are there. And I'll say it again, so you know,
it's just plain. Democrats are pushing to ensure tax breaks
for twenty four million Americans who buy insurance through the
Affordable Care Act, and they've refused to back a government
spending bill that doesn't address the issue. They want to
make the tax break permanent, which would otherwise expire at
(04:49):
the end of the year, and provide reassurances that they
there would be no temporary withholding of money. Republicans say
they are open the considering a fix for the expiring
ACA tax breaks, but they want the issue addressed separately
from ongoing budget concerns the impasse, and they're saying that
(05:09):
the Democrats proposal could partially pay for health coverage for
people who are in the country illegally. The Congressional Budget Office,
the non partisan Congressional Budget Office, is that's not true.
So the Social Security Administration keeps issuing retirement and disability benefits,
but they're going to furlough rather twelve percent of their
(05:32):
staff and pause marketing campaigns. Payments continue under the Medicare
and Medicaid health programs. The US Postal services open because
they don't depend on Congress for funding. But you got
thirteen thousand air traffic controllers and fifty thousand Transportation Security
Administration officers who are required to show up. Neither group,
(05:57):
even though there's been discussions about this, neither group expect
to be paid until Congress approves a budget deal. The
Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, the nation's largest food aid program,
and the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for women, infants, and children,
known as WICC. They continue operations as the money is there,
(06:18):
but some of that apparently is starting to run out.
They're talking about lack of funds for November in places
like North Carolina, Wisconsin, n Minnesota. Now, there was an
executive order directing the Pentagon to ensure active duty military
people are paid despite the shutdown. So one point three
(06:39):
million active duty military did not get paid or did
get paid rather on October fifteen. So that's fifty five
percent of the defense departments seven hundred and forty thousand
civilian employees you know that have been furloughed that work
in various jobs, Civilians working in cybersecurity, medical care, weapons
(07:04):
system maintenance, that kind of thing. They're not included in
the active duty personnel. And then you have the Department
of Homeland Security. Only five percent of the workers have
been furloughed, including those involved in research, planning, training, and auditing.
The Department of Homeland Security confirmed on October sixteenth that
(07:25):
more than seventy thousand sworn law enforcement officers across the department,
including Customs and Border Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Secret Service, Transportation,
Security Administration, and other critical mission areas, will be paid
for all the hours worked during the shutdown. So you
(07:46):
got the skinny on that. That is where we are at,
ladies and gentlemen, And I don't see anything this prolonged shutdown.
I don't see anything that's going to cause this to
change in any different way. You want to hear about
the weather, boy, it's been a long time since I
feel like since I've talked about the weather. I mean
(08:06):
meaning a couple of days really. But tropical store Melissa
has formed in the Atlantic, and so what does that mean.
It's going to stay away from mainland US and really
pose the biggest threat to Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica,
and Cuba. It might impact Puerto Rico as well. It's
(08:27):
churning over the Caribbean and that means heavy rain, strong winds,
rough surf, all of that. They're even talking about up
to ten inches of rain possible by Friday and the
upcoming weekend. I mean, those cruise ships are staying away
from there, that's for sure. The hurricane season last until
November thirtieth. Meet you on the flip.
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If you don't have to dig very far. I know
I always say that, but it is true. Let's go
to this one from Ellen and Ellen is listening to
us in the Great State of Connecticut on WGC fourteen
ninety a m. She says, Kate, I'm just sick of it.
(12:42):
I am with you when you say get involved in
politics instead of burying your head like an ostrich. If
you don't like the people representing you, if it seems
like it's a constant logjam, then pay attention to who
you are electing. My friends, encourage the people who want
to work together to represent you. It's great to have
a difference of opinion, and of course we should be
(13:07):
able to stand up for our rights, but there should
also be some compromise. Without compromise, how can any government
move forward. I'm a lifelong Republican. There's a lot of
things Democrats vote for and do that I cannot stand.
But if I were representing my party on the hill,
I would try, like you know what, to find a
(13:30):
way through this. Instead of consistently holding up what could
be some important legislation that hasn't even been discussed because
nothing is really happening. And that's the tragedy in all
of it. Well said, that is the tragedy in all
(13:51):
of that. And it is tough. I mean, listen, it
is hardball when you're talking about when you're talking about
now politics, it's hardball, absolutely, And of course you you
should be able to stand up for your right, to
stand up for what you believe in, but you do
have to find compromise. There is an arch to compromise.
(14:16):
It's not tossing in the ball, tossing in the towel,
all of that. But there has to be a way
forward because if there isn't a way forward, where are we?
I mean seriously, where are we if there is no
way forward? All right, how about this one? This one
is from this one? Is this one is from Michael.
(14:40):
Easy for me to say, right, and Michael is listening
to us in the desert in Tucson, Arizona kvo I
ten thirty a m And Michael says, Kate, I'm gonna
go light on you, girlfriend. I have two daughters and
(15:03):
a son and they're all under the age of ten,
so you know, we're doing that trick or treat thing. Man,
these kids in the Halloween costumes they want It seems
that my son, no matter what, wants to be some
kind of a superhero. Whoever the superhero of the moment
is that he wanted to be Deadpool, but we kind
(15:25):
of x Neye that he's going to an old school
hero Iron Man. And the two girls are doing something
completely different. One is Taylor Swift. H Taylor Swift. That
was pretty easy for us to put that costume together,
I should say, for my wife to put that costume together.
(15:47):
And my other little girl, who is as precious as
can be five years old, wants to be the Good
Witch because she's all into Wicked. So that wasn't much
of a stretch for us either. But it's gonna be
interesting to trick or treat. We do have one of
those neighborhoods that you were talking about. That, isn't it great?
You can do the old fashioned thing where you know
(16:08):
some of the neighbors. You walk down the street, people
say hi, you have conversation, They get excited about the costumes,
and you yell out that familiar phrase trick or treat. Although,
as I tell my kids, don't yell.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Be polite.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
My favorite candy, by the way, is twis What's yours? Oh,
I'm so glad you were paying attention. I love that
about your kids. Twist is pretty good. I this candy
is so tough, right, I think you can get so
addicted to it. I think I said this the other night.
(16:44):
I like Twizzlers. Twizzlers would be dangerous for me. I
could look at a pack. I could be sitting there
watching a watching a movie and or watching a game,
and you got the pack of Twizzlers. Who in fact,
I mean seriously, it's like I I like to say,
it's like that wood chipper effect where you just keep
you're not even realizing you're watching. You're involved, it's great,
(17:08):
you're relaxing, and then you look down it's like, WHOA,
how many did I have? So I just pull some,
just very few aside and put the rest away because
I know what the results of that would be. So
thanks thanks for bringing that up. All right, Then we
go into this one, and this is Kevin who is
listening to us CACAA in California KCAA, of course, is
(17:36):
ten fifty AM and one O six point five FM
in and around low Melinda, Yeah, and Kate, I have
to tell you, I'm a big fan of the show.
One of my buddies used to listen to you on
NBC and he was telling me that he had heard
you a couple of months ago and he thought the
(17:59):
man Cave was funny. And he, by the way, says
he will call in. I'm going to hold him too,
and he says he's going to call in on your
Game of the Week thing. But as much as I
want to talk about sports in that Game seven and
the NBA and NFL, I wanted to talk about something
else instead. Really sad what happened in Atlanta and the
(18:23):
fact that you have obviously a guy who's not right,
who decides that he's going to take his ammunition and
rifle and you go into the airport and end some lives.
And wouldn't that be a tragedy? Can you imagine if
that had happened. Of course they would have taken him out,
(18:45):
but how many people could he have killed or maimed
before that that happened.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
And good on.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
The family for hearing about the live stream that apparently
he was doing and putting an end to that because
we have been talking about something that is incredibly sad
and catastrophic, and you say it on your show. I've
heard it at least once or twice in the six
months or so I've been listening to you where you
talk about can't we have these areas? Why is it
(19:14):
that we go to church or go to school, or
we're going about our eyves trying to get from point
A to point B, and then suddenly our lives are
destroyed because somebody decides that they are going to take
out their rage randomly on a group of people they
have no connection to whatsoever.
Speaker 12 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Random rage. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Random rage, and it's awful when that happens. I mean,
you know, you know the history of all of this.
But hey, the good news is is, yes, absolutely the
family reported it. He was in the airport staking it around.
You know, he walked in, he looked like any other person.
He just kind of blends it in. So the good
news is is that that was stopped and he's gonna
(20:04):
be doing some time for sure. Absolutely. All right, let's
go to and thank you for all those emails. You
can send me your thoughts, you can see on anything.
Kate at Katedalaney Radio dot com. Kate at katedalaneyradio dot com.
Just click on contact. That's how you get in touch
with us. So let's go to the pre market bell. Yes,
(20:32):
so the pre market bell. It's interesting because there's a
lot of interesting earnings. I gotta mention this about Netflix.
Netflix shares dropped after they missed their earnings estimates, even
though it seemed really high, like what they talked about,
what they what they thought they were gonna hit, though
didn't hit completely what it was. I mean, so their
(20:53):
shares fell seven I think it was. Yeah, it was
seven percent in extended trading on Tuesday after the third
quarter earnings missed. There's been this ongoing dispute with Brazilian
tax authorities for the weaker than estimated results, So go
figure that out. The streamer said. The specific expense stemmed
from a ten percent tax on certain payments made by
(21:16):
these Brazilian entities for operations outside the country.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
YadA YadA, yah.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
We could go deep down that rabbit hole, but it's
a whole legal thing. So the third quarter, though row
seventeen percent, in line with the expectations, boosted by membership growth, pricing,
adjustments and increased AD revenue for the fourth quarter. Netflix
expects revenue to rise seventeen percent year over year as
(21:40):
those trends continue. So how about that again, not a
surprise if you look at it from you know, if
you look at it from that angle. All right, let's
look at there were some other earnings I wanted to
look at. M Let's look at I'm not going to
(22:03):
do that. I'm afraid if I get too in the
weeds with you, you'll say, what are you doing taking us
down this path? We'll do that one night. But DOW
futures are up point eleven percent, SMP futures are up
point sixteen percent, NASDAK futures point eight percent, and oil
is up a couple of bucks since we last met,
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up next? We've but introduce you to an interesting boxer
is going to blow your mind. His story next.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
On the show office, Colonner, see I still thout the
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Speaker 1 (23:03):
So the name of the book is small Town Boxer,
And Mike Susky joins us here on author's Corner on
America Tonight with me Kate Delaney. This book takes you
on such a twisted wild ride. What an incredibly talented
individual he was. Think boxing, and it's not just boxing,
because there were so many other things that happened to
(23:25):
him in his life at one point, and he talks
about this. He says, he fell into the ashes of
despair and was, you know, at the bottom of the bottom,
and boxing took away his ability to sometimes talk comprehensively.
And we've had other boxers on the show, so we
(23:45):
understand that. But all his glory, all the things he's done,
the people that he worked with, so incredible. His best buddy,
Chris Bird, you may know from Olympic Times, just great,
great stories. You can get his book on Amazon. Go there.
Small Town Boxer once again, Mike, thanks for coming on
to share your story.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
Well, I'd love to do it.
Speaker 13 (24:07):
This is I'm very thankful.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So how did boxing start for you because you kind
of grew up in a really rough and tumbled neighborhood, right,
is that part of it? And then plus your father's
success as a wrestler.
Speaker 14 (24:19):
Yeah, my father is one of the greatest amateurssers in
history fifty three and Oho all pins and zeros.
Speaker 13 (24:25):
If you start on me, pinned you. If you went
the distance, he set you out.
Speaker 14 (24:29):
And then so I grew up wrestling and then as
you know, I was aricant.
Speaker 13 (24:34):
I could, that was real.
Speaker 14 (24:35):
Tough, and I went hands with a black belt, that's
you know, and he gave me a black guy.
Speaker 12 (24:40):
And then that's what got me into boxing.
Speaker 13 (24:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
So actually the wrestling and because of his background, it
made you a better boxer, made you better prepared, right
to back everything up, Yeah, it.
Speaker 13 (24:52):
Was insane what I did.
Speaker 14 (24:54):
I went a national championship in my second boxing tournament.
Speaker 13 (24:58):
Wow. My first boxing tournament was the Junior Olympics. That's
the hands down the biggest one.
Speaker 14 (25:03):
And I beat the guy that had seventy wins, five losses,
six national titles, and I was two and oh two
first round knockouts and I beat the guy. I beat
the guy that was seventy with two wins.
Speaker 13 (25:14):
I beat the guy had seventy wins.
Speaker 14 (25:16):
And five losses, and I was five or six national titles,
you know, And so that that's credited to wrestling.
Speaker 12 (25:25):
And had I not wrestled that that would have never happened.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, and you know you were cruiserweight for people listening,
and you can go look them up on Facebook and
we'll tell you about that.
Speaker 14 (25:35):
But just in the pros and the prose, I in
the prose eye cruiserweight, but in the amateurs, I you know,
mostly middleweight, as middleweight national champion twice.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So wow, just unbelievable. And you know, you, you and
I talked off there. We had a great long conversation.
We talked about the places that you fought and the
things that you saw. And at one point, you know,
you were in you were in Michigan. You were fighting
at the place that people talk about all the time,
(26:05):
the Palace, right, Yeah.
Speaker 14 (26:07):
Yeah, I had one of the They announced that one
of the greatest fights ever fought here at the Palace.
They went and got a Russian to Jackie Kaalin, who
was in a movie starring Meg Ryan's played my promoter's
part against the Ropes, and Jackie went and got a
world champion Russian to knock me out, and I ended
up knocking him out and went down. They announced it
(26:28):
one of the greatest fights ever fought here at the Palace.
Me and that Russian half killed each other, and then
I won on a TKO.
Speaker 13 (26:35):
I knocked him out.
Speaker 11 (26:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
And as we said, I mean you were winning, you
were winning big. I mean you had it all right,
I mean your fights were televised all of that.
Speaker 13 (26:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 14 (26:48):
I was ranked in the world, but I was eleven
and zero, which this never happens. I was eleven and
zero and ranked ten in the world by the WBO.
That's really rare. Yeah yeah, it's some really great. Like
I said, I set world records on ESPN and then
on Fox Sports Net in the national TV. I fought
that Russian and they announced that one of the greatest
(27:09):
fights ever. And you know it's endless. I knocker guy
out twice. If you will look at my korel on
my Facebook page, I have really entertaining knockouts, very unusual.
I knocker guy out, he gets counted out, and the
referee kind of messed up. He went to collect the
scorecards and the guy comes at me, not knowing the
fight was over, and I'm looking at him.
Speaker 12 (27:29):
You know, I just knocked him out, and so he
wasn't all there.
Speaker 14 (27:32):
So I just tapped his gloves and he literally fell
straight back, stiff as a board on his head.
Speaker 11 (27:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
And you know what it's it's interesting too because you
had great friends in boxing that you met and I
mentioned one of them. You talked about him and got
to me Chris Bird family.
Speaker 13 (27:48):
We're brothers.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
I mean Chris, Chris had five brothers.
Speaker 13 (27:53):
You know, a part of that gang.
Speaker 12 (27:54):
The Joe Bird was the Olympic head coach ninety two.
Speaker 13 (27:57):
That was my coach.
Speaker 14 (27:59):
And by the grace of God, we went. That's the
first gym I went to. Was was Flint Pale run
by Joe Bird. And then and uh, Joe Bird was
took me in. You know, next thing, you know, he's
driving me all over the country. You know, my family,
the Birds are the greatest people I know on earth.
Speaker 13 (28:20):
This is awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And you told me about Roseburn. She was like a
great corner woman.
Speaker 13 (28:26):
She's a good second mother. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean the Bird boys, that relationship, how they lifted
you up, what they did, that's all part of this
book Small Town Boxer for you, Rosebird.
Speaker 12 (28:41):
I know where you're getting to. Rose Bird worked my corner.
Speaker 14 (28:45):
I won the International Black Expo was you know as
a big tournament at the Hoosier Dome and Rose Bird
was my corner man.
Speaker 11 (28:51):
Wow.
Speaker 13 (28:53):
Wow, yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
And and it's interesting too for you. So when you
knew you had it, you had this incredible your physique,
the way you work, the way you train. What was
your signature move?
Speaker 12 (29:09):
Well, I set world records on ESPN punched that.
Speaker 13 (29:13):
I was real good with combinations.
Speaker 14 (29:16):
My signature move was if you got in a ring
with me, I was gonna be throwing a lot of punches.
Speaker 13 (29:20):
I hit a guy. These are world records in the
Cruisewet division.
Speaker 14 (29:25):
I threw one hundred and thirty nine punches and I
hit the guy eighty eight times and both of those
world punched at records. So I was just you know,
And I grew up with Chris Bird, sparring with Chris Bird,
heavy world champ.
Speaker 12 (29:39):
I grew up with him, and you had to do
that or he would kill you.
Speaker 11 (29:44):
You know.
Speaker 14 (29:44):
You had to throw punches constantly and uh and then
he I learned to get inside and roll with my
shoulders to put him off balance so he couldn't hit me.
Speaker 13 (29:53):
Back, you know.
Speaker 14 (29:54):
And it worked sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. I'm
not saying you know up Chris by no means, but
you know, I learned a lot, for sure working with
Flimpeal Joe birds.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, and so you had all the success and of
course all the things that come along with it, a
lot of female companionship that go to these great.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
Logos, right.
Speaker 12 (30:17):
No, no, no, a lot of time out.
Speaker 11 (30:19):
No.
Speaker 14 (30:20):
I just had one girlfriend through high school. I loved her.
It's my first love, Karen Co.
Speaker 12 (30:27):
She ended up dying, uh after after our relationship, and
it was real.
Speaker 13 (30:32):
Heavy on me for sure. Wow.
Speaker 14 (30:34):
And I had a problem with their family, you know,
and they made a break up with me, and then
I was out of the country when she died. I
come home and I went over to the house, you know,
because I didn't want to think that her family didn't
think I was going to be there, you know.
Speaker 12 (30:51):
And like I said, she's my first love. We did
all through high school.
Speaker 13 (30:54):
Wow. And so I answered the back door.
Speaker 14 (30:56):
Only only people know you go through the garage and
knock on the back door, and only people they know
do that. And then the father answered the door. We
just looked at each other and cried. We hugged each other.
We we hugged each other and then cried together.
Speaker 12 (31:14):
And then and then he had a gym and I,
you know, I.
Speaker 14 (31:19):
Was training people and I trained them for for a
couple of years in my gym, and we were like,
we were like family. He'd sit down and have coffee
with my parents and everything.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
What what was it like training people because you had
such great power in the ring. Was it fun for
you to make that transition?
Speaker 13 (31:37):
Oh? Yeah, it was.
Speaker 14 (31:38):
It was you know, I was real knowledgeable think you know,
I was always picking up knowledge. And then you know,
my and then after my pro career, you know, it's like,
you know, working out was this part of my life.
Speaker 13 (31:50):
So you know, I.
Speaker 14 (31:51):
Ended up having a gym and then and then, uh,
in Michigan, I had a gym.
Speaker 12 (31:57):
In the back of my dad. My dad was a
builder and he built the gym on the back of
his house for us, for me anyways, and then and then.
Speaker 13 (32:06):
I moved to Arizona. I have my own gym too.
Speaker 12 (32:09):
So it's just uh, you know, physicality, you know.
Speaker 14 (32:12):
I was always working out, always running, always doing push ups,
always doing pull ups, and it just morphed into you know,
a bigger knowledge of of you know. And then I'd
look in the diets with the heat, but not the heat,
you know, your sleep patterns. I looked into everything on
your health and then I got to be the top
(32:33):
training in the nation. I got voted top training in
the Nation twice at Elie Fitness.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So when you look at the boxing game, now, what
do you think of it?
Speaker 12 (32:44):
It's nothing like it's just you know what happened.
Speaker 14 (32:48):
The UFC took a big bite out of the out
of boxing.
Speaker 13 (32:52):
A lot of your great fighters.
Speaker 12 (32:55):
You know, UFC is is ruining.
Speaker 14 (32:59):
I don't know, these guys can't fight nothing like the
UFC's ruining with today's boxing, you know, compared to you know,
compared to my day, eighties and nineties, even the seventies,
you know boxes. You know, like I said, the UFC
just took a lot of talent out of boxing for sure.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (33:19):
Yeah, I don't blame him.
Speaker 14 (33:20):
You know I would have been, you know, because I
grew up wrestling and i'd get into boxing I had
you know, I probably would have been a UFC fighter.
Speaker 12 (33:28):
If it was around exactly, had that opportunity.
Speaker 14 (33:31):
Yeah, if I had that opportunity that you know, that
is you know, I love the street fight, so that'd
be I knocked out four four big football players downtown
downtown Flint, a big bar fight.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yes, you definitely had that power. Hey, we're running out
of time. I want to make sure we do this
because there's so many other things in the book. You
got to get the book because you'll learn about the
fact that he was also for a time Donald Trump's bodyguard,
and so many other crazy stories that happened. The name
of the book A small town boxer. Tell us where
we can go to see those awesome fights on faceboo book.
Speaker 14 (34:01):
Oh well, going to go to Michael Susky s Uski,
then in bracket to be Mike Suska s Uska and
you can look at uh, you can see a knockout
real and then I'm an actor too, as in some movies.
Speaker 13 (34:18):
And I got a movie coming up right now.
Speaker 14 (34:20):
I have to go over over a Hollywood premiere. I
have to go over to Hollywood and watch the movie.
I was just saying, well, I did it years ago
and now it's just coming out a big movie.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Nice. Well, we can't wait for that continued success. Michael,
you were terrific. Thank you so much.
Speaker 12 (34:37):
Thank you, and you guys are great.
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Speaker 1 (38:25):
So when did you realize just even the title says
it all, when did you realize there was such a
symbiotic relationship between spirituality and of course what we see
in nature.
Speaker 18 (38:37):
It was what I would call a gradual awakening. It
happened started happening, probably in my twenties, and I just
started taking note of what was around me and I
made notes, not understanding at all that this would evolve
into a book. So I just appreciated so much being
(39:03):
with nature and outside, with animals especially, and I began
to notice some connections. I mean, not everything was totally
separate from the next. A man has a dog, a
woman has a cat, a cat has a flea, A
flea grows on grass somewhere.
Speaker 11 (39:25):
Where did all this come from.
Speaker 18 (39:26):
It didn't just spring up overnight, and it had to
come from an intention.
Speaker 13 (39:33):
Not.
Speaker 18 (39:33):
It wasn't just oh gee, look at that, nice, nice mistake,
nice surprise. No, it purposefully planned.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yep, purposely planned. I love that, and you talk about it.
You invite us to take really what you call a
phenomenal journey with you and seek out creation, God's creations.
And wouldn't people even in their life when they're so
stressed and so busy, And you know, you had a
busy career, all these different social work positions in healthcare
(40:04):
and in education, the degrees that you went through, the bachelor's,
the Masters, the clinical social work, which is a lot
of hours. And did that give you comfort?
Speaker 11 (40:15):
It opened doors for me.
Speaker 18 (40:18):
Every step that I took I very you know, it
was just mine.
Speaker 11 (40:23):
Nobody was pushing me.
Speaker 18 (40:25):
There were no previous Oh there were eighty five thousand
social workers in the family, so you have to be
one too. Kind of thing. It was all mine.
Speaker 11 (40:35):
It was my desire.
Speaker 18 (40:40):
It was I gosh, I don't know destiny.
Speaker 11 (40:45):
It was your destiny.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
You knew it, and you pursued it, even though that
wasn't something in your background.
Speaker 18 (40:51):
Exactly. Yes, you said it much better than I was standing.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Now you're saying it, You're saying it right. And so
it's interesting because in your twenties you had that realization.
Your eyes started to get open to what you were
seeing around you because you opened your eyes. So tell
us about the book, and when people read the book,
what can they expect.
Speaker 18 (41:10):
First of all, my desire in writing the book was
not about, oh boy, I'm going to be famous there,
oh boy, I'm going to make billions of dollars. My
goal always was some force greater than myself planned this
vision within me, and as a vision developed, I knew
(41:34):
that it was not meant for me.
Speaker 11 (41:36):
Alone that what I.
Speaker 18 (41:38):
Was essentially was an do it if you will, to
put a message together that was meant to go to
as many living beings as would have it.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Well, and you definitely. I mean, people can get this
book for a song of Kindle version pack however they
want it on Amazon and there so beautiful because you
talk about you've always been around animals, and I asked
you this question. We talked off air what your favorite
animals were, and I think you and I have that
in common, right, Zebras and giraffes.
Speaker 11 (42:13):
Yeah, yeah, I do love them.
Speaker 18 (42:15):
I love cats too, but zebras and giraffes have a
special draw and I'm not sure why, but I do
think part of it is because each of them has
been imprinted with a very recognizable sign, and not all
(42:37):
of us have that. Some of us are good at
being recognized for what we are, for who we are, and.
Speaker 11 (42:46):
We're proud of that.
Speaker 18 (42:47):
Other people don't have a clue, and I think that's
most people do not have a clue who they are,
how strong they can be, how beautiful they are, how
connected they are and sorry.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
And thinking about the connection. No, that's okay, I agree,
it's it. I understand, you know, thinking about that and
how overwhelming it is, but you know, the connection is
so important, the meaning and the connection, and you again,
you talk about this in the book and imagine if
people could appreciate the planet more.
Speaker 18 (43:21):
Yes, I mean if even if they don't realize that
the planet is essentially their lifeline. If people don't realize that,
if they just realize that there's beauty there and let's
help keep the beauty going, that helps keep all keeps
(43:41):
all of us going. And hopefully, though, what more people
will recognize is that if we don't sustain the planet,
the planet will not be able to sustain us.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Boy, isn't that the truth? And again the name of
the book is My Spirituality of Nature, the relationship of
spirituality and nature in your life.
Speaker 18 (44:01):
And you were a journaler, right, Yes, yes I was?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
And so by journaling, did you were you able to
pull a little bit from the journal when you when
you said you never thought you'd write a book, and
then you put it together exactly.
Speaker 18 (44:13):
Most of my journaling for that few years went into
the book. And it was a revelation to me that
my journaling was actually headed that way. I didn't know
it until the book was in front of me and
I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yeah, what did it feel like when when it was finished,
when you had when the book was done, when while
all of a sudden, I have a book, did it
feel like, this is pretty cool? I'm putting this out
into the world. Like you said, it wasn't about money
or ego, but it had to feel good that you
accomplished that.
Speaker 18 (44:50):
Yes, in it, you know, and it was still a
lot of personal hard work, but that's been my life,
so that wasn't a bit revelation. What I didn't understand though,
in the process was that the publishing of the book
has been very difficult and very costly in ways that
(45:13):
I didn't think.
Speaker 11 (45:14):
It would be.
Speaker 18 (45:15):
I thought, well, we'll just go out there, call a publisher,
slap a name on it, and there you go.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
That's what you would be even more proud because you
persevered and like you said, that's nothing new, that's what
you've done in your life.
Speaker 11 (45:28):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm so glad I did it.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
You're getting the word out and it's out there, like
I said, on Amazon, and people can get the book
on kindle or paperback. You know, it's very easy to
get if you're all listening to us. The cover is beautiful,
and the concept of what we've been talking about is
so wonderful. Who is Nature? Who am I? How are
we connected? These are all the things that you talk about,
(45:54):
and there's so few connections for people these days. That's
why I think your book is so important, because you
can always connect to nature. You can always get up
out of your desk, you can always shake yourself off
out of the situation you're in. And you discovered that,
didn't you.
Speaker 18 (46:12):
Yes, I sure did. And it was nobody directing me.
It was you know, what Nature's telling me what to
do the time.
Speaker 11 (46:22):
The days or whatever.
Speaker 18 (46:23):
That I realized or that I understood that nature was
pulling at me, that was like, Oh my God, the
doors of the universe were flung open, and all of
a sudden, for that moment, I felt everything that the
planet felt.
Speaker 11 (46:43):
I really believed that for that moment.
Speaker 18 (46:47):
And at different times since I've written the book and
before that, I've had these connections that felt exceedingly strong
with the natural world.
Speaker 11 (46:57):
And that's my spirituality.
Speaker 18 (47:00):
That's me discovering how I can relate to nature, to
the planet, and how I can show or demonstrate or
feel or present to other people how important it is
and how easy it is.
Speaker 13 (47:16):
To do.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Right open your eyes.
Speaker 11 (47:21):
Yeah, and you don't have.
Speaker 18 (47:22):
To spend you know, thousands of dollars to go out
and look at the sunset, or go pick a flower
in your backyard, or put a dollar in the pocket
as somebody who needs it that doesn't have it, maybe
they'll be able to see the earth a little brighter
for a second.
Speaker 11 (47:41):
Well, there's a lot we can do.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Absolutely perfect place to end this, there's a lot we
can do. Go get Maurice Elaine Cook's book. It is
just and it's a beautiful cover. I mean seriously, you
open the cover and you know you're into a whole
new world. Maurice, thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 18 (47:59):
Thank you for having I enjoy speaking with you. I
feel like you understand. I feel like we're related. We are.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Well that's a compliment. Thank you so much. Such a
great reminder to get out in nature. Whenever you feel
like you're overwhelmed. I think every single one of us
feels that at some point in the day, take a
walk around the block, or just take a different view somewhere,
or maybe jump in the car and go eat your
lunch at the park. I've seen a lot of people
do that make you count everybody
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