Did Studio Meddling Ruin "Tank Girl" (1995)? / "Dick Tracy" (1990) Was the Last of Its Kind

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Tonight on Meet Your Double feature, a free spirited rebel
fights to restore water to a post apocalyptic earth in Tank
Girl. Then a hard nosed detective
fights to bring down a colorful gang of criminals in Dick Tracy.
He's a stylish superhero double feature, and it starts right

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now. Hello and welcome to Meet Your
Double Feature, a double-blind movie review podcast.
My name is Thomas, joined as always by my brother Frank.
Frank, how are you? Oh.
I'm excited we're back. Season finale we never left.

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Finale we're still. There we never left, but this is
a bit of a hiatus for us. We have not recorded an episode
in over a month and so I'll be honest, this all feels brand new
to me. Yeah, How does this work?
This is a microphone. Microphone named after
microphone. Oh, I hate that guy.

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Anyway, that's a great question.How does this work?
Maybe somebody listening is asking that question cause
they've never heard our show before.
In case you're wondering, Meet You Double Feature is a
double-blind movie review show. We have two films to talk about
back-to-back that neither of us had seen before recording them
for this episode. But Frank gave me one to watch,
and I gave him one to watch, andwe're going to decide who made
the better blind movie selection.

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I think it was me. Frank thinks it was him.
He's incorrect. They were on the show.
Later on in the show, we're going to talk about the movie I
asked Frank to watch, 1990s DickTracy.
And 1st, we're going to start with the film that Frank you
selected, 1995's Tank Girl. Also of note, this is the end of
our season about forgotten superhero films, as you can tell

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from the fact that these are barely superhero films.
I think Dick Tracy is. Dick Tracy is Tank Girl a little
bit more of a stretch. I would call it a comic movie
because Tank Girl was a comic strip, not so much a superhero.
But we didn't know that. We had not seen the film.
That's the premise. That's the premise of the show.

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Now, Frank, before I roll in with my review, any context for
why you asked me to watch Tank Girl?
You know, I was trying to reallyget us to the outer, the outer
edges of what constitutes a superhero slash comic book
movie, I guess. Yep.
And honestly, we've seen a lot of them.

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You know, this was an effort to see some forgotten superhero
films. You know, it turns out there
wasn't that many that we forgot.Well, we being you and I
specifically because there are some more obscure ones that
people would enjoy that we just watched growing up already.
You know, like Darkman from Sam Raimi or like the Phantom.

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Like there's some famous forgotten ones that we weren't
able to cover for the show because we don't one of us had
already seen them. So yeah, we were kind of at Slim
Pickens here towards the end of the season, but we did our best.
Yeah, I think, I think we've made some varied choices which I
like this like these are all superhero movies, hard to see a

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through line through all of them.
Although I will with Dick Tracy,there's there's definitely some
common elements with some previous films that I've watched
this season, so. OK, looking forward to that.
I do have some production notes about Tank Girl as a character
that do tie into one of our previous films that we've
discussed this season, so I'll start with that.
Tank Girl, as I mentioned, was acomic strip that was adapted

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into a film in 1995. It began, I believe, in the late
80s as sort of a counterculture.Like girl rocker character in
the United Kingdom was made by two British dudes who are more
well known. At least one of them is more
well known as the person who created the artwork for the
gorillas the band. Oh wait, so he did Tank Girl

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first? Yeah, let me pull up the name so
that I don't look foolish. That's gorillas with AZ
actually. What's the name of the band?
The name of the guy? Tank Girl and the Gorillas are
connected through their Co creator, British artist Jamie
Hewlett. So that is a connection I was
not expecting when I sat down towatch Tank Girl.

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Awesome, that would have been cool if there was gorillas music
in the movie. Oh, that would have been pretty
neat. Actually, it would have fit.
Unfortunately that project came later, otherwise I'm sure they
would have. Yeah.
The other note that I had is that the origins of the comics,
so the two creators, Hewlett andthe other one whose name I
didn't write down, Bad job doesn't.
Matter. They're relevant.

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Hate that? Guy relevant.
The other person? No, no, no, we'll look it up.
British comic series created by Jamie Hewlett and Alan Martin.
You can see why I forgot that other name, but not very
notable. Just really going to drag this
guy when? You.
Remember his name? You're like freaking boring name
guy over here. We'll cut that out so he looks
smart. Jamie Hewlett and Alan Martin

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created Tank Girl, I think when they were both still in college.
The reason that the name Tank Girl came about, according to
the Wikipedia article at least, is that there was sort of a
running bit between Hewlett and some of the people in the band
he was in at the time, where they were just adding Girl to
the end of every character that they made-up.
And it says it was because they had just seen the 1980s
Supergirl movie. Whoa, Episode one.

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Yeah. So I guess they saw Supergirl
probably the only ones and then just kept doing like Blank Girl
as like a bit. And so then when they created
Tank Girl, that's why she becameTank Girl.
Isn't that crazy? They watched that movie in the
80s and then nobody saw it againuntil this year when I watched
it. When you watched it and we
talked about it on the show, Yep, we're the only.

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Watched it in between. So anyway, that was my that was
my long winded connection back to a superhero movie proper.
But I did think that was kind offunny.
Yeah, that's cool. I mean, it's connected to one we
already saw. There you go.
Can't be forgotten, the guy fromthe gorillas has seen it.
Guy who did the artwork for the He's not a member of the band

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though, is he? No, I think it's just just the
art. But I mean, that's it's kind of
like a really crucial part of that band's aesthetic.
More so than most, yeah. Yeah, who cares about the music?
Who cares? Remember the monkey?
He's a gorilla actually, with AZ.
Oh, it's a good point. Anyway, that's my like

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production background on Tank Girl.
It was a successful comic in thelate 80s.
It was like a counterculture icon.
The comic itself was not really like a traditional narrative
story. It was a very zany like
surrealistic comic strip that didn't really follow any defined
logic but kind of had that like grungy riot girl art style.

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So really, really easy to translate into a feature film.
Oh yeah, certainly. So it's not as if it was a
horrible idea that didn't work and was a total flop.
You know, I will say though, real quick, I, I actually feel
like stuff like that typically is something that would be great
to adapt into another medium because it is so loose.

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You know, I, I feel like there'ssome, I, I know some people
really liked maybe the first season of like the Last of Us TV
show, but from what I've heard, people have fallen off on the
second season. And I've just always thought I'm
like, what a bad thing to adapt though, because it's already a
story that's been told in such acinematic way, like through the
game, through the original. And so it's like, if you're

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going to adapt something, I feellike there should be some
purpose or intentionality behindthe adaptation because it is
going to inherently be somethingdifferent.
But I feel like if you have something that's just loose and
kind of a kinetic energy idea and imagery, you can kind of do
whatever you want with that really, which I think would be a
fun jumping off point for an adaptation.

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But that's a good point. I think on paper there's no
reason this couldn't have turnedinto a good movie 'cause just
like you said, all you need is the aesthetic.
And then you can kind of use that as an opportunity to create
like a core narrative out of it 'cause it still had characters
in a setting it just was not. It didn't really bother with the
traditional narrative structure in most of the comics.

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Tank Girl also went on a hiatus after some point in the 90s and
then came back in like the 20 tens for a while.
So it's really only had a coupleof short runs.
And I think there's there's still more to be done.
I think even now there's probably you could make Tank
Girl again now and it would probably have a better chance of
working than it did in 95. Like a movie?
You mean like a movie adaptationof it?

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Because I do think that what we got in the 90s, I'll say right
off the bat, classic movie adaptation problem, the studio
got involved. That's like the overarching
problem with the movie is that the director and the 2 original
comic creators both like have all gone on record saying like
this movie got taken out of our hands in post production.
They made a bunch of changes, they censored it a lot, and the

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end result was not what we wanted to make.
Yeah, tale as old as time. Tale as old as time as Tank
Girl. She have a tank.
She actually have a tank. Yes, so the premise of Tank Girl
is that she lives in a tank in like a post apocalyptic earth
and drives it around. And we do get to that point in
the movie, but at the beginning she is not.

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She doesn't have her tank until like the second act.
Oh, so it's like a surf monkey situation again?
It's a surf monkey situation, but she does get it long before
the end of the movie, so that's good.
OK, cool, cool. What's she doing before she's?
That's what she lives like. Why'd they call her?
Was she just called Girl at the beginning?

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OK so before I launch into the actual plot of the movie Tank
Girl, I would have never guessedthis would come up.
But I honestly have to give a content warning for this movie
and even the discussion because Tank Girl.
The movie features many, many scenes, especially in the first
half, of people threatening sexual violence against women

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and at least one against a child, and none of it is handled
with enough tact to be like, notuncomfortable to watch.
It's a huge part of the discussion.
And I think a lot of the movie was trying to be about a lot of
like, feminist ideas. And there's been a lot of stuff
written about it since about whether it's truly a feminist

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film or almost like just appropriated the aesthetics of
feminist filmmaking. It's a lot.
It's like weirdly heavy despite having such a goofy premise.
So just wanted to forewarn with that before we actually get into
the Plot Summary at all. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I, I don't know if it made it in the episode, but that
there's, there's a scene like that in Supergirl as well.

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And it's like upsetting and likecomically stupid in that movie
too 'cause she has superpowers and she keeps fending these
people off, but then they still persist.
It's. Like.
That doesn't even make sense. It's upsetting, and I think in
Tank Girl it's intended to be upsetting, but it does tip the
tone of the movie over into being like kind of miserable at

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the beginning because when the story launches, it's set in the
future. I think it's like post
apocalyptic Earth. And there's actually a really
funny line at the beginning because Tank Girl herself,
played by Lori Petty, is narrating the opening and she
just says it's 2033, the world is screwed now.
I was like, Yep, Correct. Yeah.

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I mean. Screwed sooner than that, but.
Sooner than that. It didn't even take that long,
Tank Girl, but thank you. And she explains that it's a
post apocalypse specifically because it like stopped raining.
There's been no water in like 11or 12 years.
Most of the world is a desert. The only people who have water
is this big evil mega corporation that they just call

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water in power because they haveall of the remaining natural
resources. They're hoarding them and
essentially trying to rule the world by killing or enslaving
anybody who's trying to live outin the desert by themselves.
Yeah, none of that can ever happen.
None of that could ever happen. Water scarcity?
Never heard of it. Never.
Heard of it, don't want to talk about it, it scares me.

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Don't stop bringing it up, Tank Girl.
So that is our premise. Tank Girl lives in like a little
commune out in the desert. There's this kind of neat set
that they have set up in the first act where it's like a
house, like a three story old looking house that's like half
covered up by the sand, like it's like half submerged into

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this big sand dune. And so in order to still have a
walkway to get up to, like the top floor, they built this big
curved wooden ramp that looks like the entrance to Helms Deep.
Cool, I like that. Is this this a practical set
we're talking about here? There is some fun practical sets
and also some cute little miniatures of like the evil
headquarters and and some of theaction stuff.

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So production design good enough, kind of interesting,
very like zany 90s look to the whole thing. 90's the 90s were
so zany. 90s were so zany there was no water I guess.
They said surge, everybody was just drinking surge non-stop.
Surge. That's true.

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Frank, I might have talked to you about this before, but there
is a website you can find onlineof an Internet movement of
people trying to make, I think Coca-Cola bring back Surge.
And it's like the most pathetic thing I've ever seen because the
language they use is not like bring back Surge because the
fans love it. They're trying to like speak
corporate. They're like Surge is a

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marketable commercial entity forCoca-Cola Company.
Oh, I'm glad you called it a movement, you know, because it's
like a really important thing that we should be focusing on.
I don't want to think about the the water shortage or any other
real. Problems.
Where's the surge? I mean, listen, what do you call
6 people and a website if not a movement?

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It's a band. It's a band.
Anyway, so Tank Girl starts. Tank Girl lives in a commune
with like some of her friends and these little kids who are
just kind of doing their best toto make it in a world that
doesn't have any water. The other faction in the world
that they have to worry about isthis group that they call the

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Rippers who according to the opening narration are like flesh
eating monsters and kind of a classic like post apocalypse
trope if it kind of felt like they were talking about the the
reavers from from Firefly if youremember that.
I was picturing like the psychosfrom Borderlands but.
Same thing. Yep, just like crazy cannibal

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monster people living out in thedesert.
So those are the two groups thatour main cast has to worry
about. They have to deal with the
rippers and they have to deal with Water and Power, who are
just the evil organization. Almost immediately, Water and
Power shows up and kills all of Tank Girl's friends and kills
her boyfriend and kills her pet ox that she was riding around on

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and kidnaps the little girl thatshe was friends with and kidnaps
Tank Girl. And this is where we get like
our three or four scenes in a row of people threatening sexual
violence against Tank Girl. So huge bummer in the first like
10 minutes of the movie. 1st 10 minutes, all that happens.
It's almost instantly we get a short scene of her coming across

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these people who got killed by rippers and like taking the
water supplies that have been left behind while doing this
narration that I swear was all added in post and was not
intended to be there because it's very like it kind of
clashes with what's on screen. Like visually Tank Girl is a
silly movie, but trying to play it like the world they live in
is kind of like sad and dangerous.
But Lori Petty's narration is like, she's putting on this

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voice that makes her sound like she's 12 years old, and she's
just like, that's me. I'm Tank Girl.
Probably wondering how I got here.
How did I make it through life without surge?
Oh my gosh. Well.
It can only go up from here. You just get all the sad stuff
out of the way right at the beginning.

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Dude, we don't get the sad stuffout of the way for the first
like hour of the movie. It's so miserable.
This is supposed to be a fun movie.
I thought this was aimed at likekids when I when I turned it on,
but instead it's like, no, no, no, we're going to do kidnap,
sexual violence, threats, and then just like literal torture
for multiple scenes in a row. What?

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So like our characters don't getto even have like a good time at
all in the beginning. It's just straight into just
bad, bad times, bad times at Ridgemont High for the rest of
the movie. That's not even what that's
called. Yeah, pretty much.

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I think there's like 1 scene where she's like flirting with
her boyfriend and talking to this kid that she knows and they
try to establish that Tank Girl herself is really clinging on to
like old pop culture artifacts that she's collected in the form
of like old junk. So she has like like pin up
calendars and props and just things that she came across in

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the desert. And so she tries to make like
pop culture references that don't even really make sense
because she's not very old and the world has been messed up for
a long time at this point. It's kind of like when the genie
shows up in Aladdin and starts talking about like modern pop
culture stuff and it's like, excuse me?
Yeah, but that that works in Aladdin.
It works in Aladdin. It kind of works in Tank Girl,
but she seems to know more than makes sense.

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Like she makes a joke at one point about like, oh, I got to
get home to watch Baywatch. And it's like, do you even
really know what ATV is like? How long have things been this
messed up? You're like 20 years old.
Wasn't this also a thing with like Star Lord in Guardians of
the Galaxy? He was making like a lot of
references to like 80s culture even though you left earth when
he was like 9 years old. So exactly it's it's kind of on

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par with that where like it's harkening to something for the
viewer's sake, even though the character maybe wouldn't
remember a lot of this stuff. And that makes sense in the
comic strip because I think TankGirl has a bit of a meta
narrative quality in that where she can like wink to camera a
little more directly. She doesn't do that in the movie
because she's busy suffering. Oh, she doesn't do like the Zack
Morris like. She does not call a time out.

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And yeah, like Zack Morris, she just gets kidnapped and there
her small child friend is kidnapped, and then she
interacts with the bad guy played by Malcolm McDowell.
So we got a real actor in the movie Lookout.
Lookout. Wait, who's playing Tank Girl?
Oh, Tank Girl's Lori Petty, who you might remember as one of the
leads in Point Break, the Keanu Reeves action movie.

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She was the female lead in that.Oh, OK.
Yeah, I like that you had to clarify what point break was.
Like I I wouldn't know that. The audience might not know.
We don't know. Oh.
Oh, I forgot about them, Yeah. There's other people here, so
yes, if you've seen Point Break audience then she is the female
lead from that opposite Keanu Reeves and the late Patrick

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Swayze. Swayze.
Yeah, the Swayze didn't we talk a lot about Swayze recently?
Was that. No, that was in one of our.
Oh, that was in our our ranking every movie ever made.
Yeah, we we went on and on aboutRoadhouse and how much we all
love Patrick Swayze. So check that out if you have
not already to hear more about the sways man.
In the meantime, back to Lori Petty.
So I don't even know how to properly summarize a lot of this

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because it happens kind of quickly.
She gets abducted. She gets brought back to the
Water and Power headquarters, which is like a fully
functioning building that has all this stuff in it because
they've hoarded all the resources left on Earth.
Malcolm McDowell tries to hire her to work for him because she
showed that she's fairly capable.
She like, stole somebody's gun and killed a lot of his soldiers
while they were attacking. So he's like, just come work for

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me. And she says no because she's
very rebellious. And basically her whole
character is that she just like,refuses to be subjugated by all
these evil men. Like, even when some of them are
like, threatening to assault her, like, she just always
throws it back in their face by being like, hypersexual towards
them. And then when Malcolm McDowell
threatens physical violence against her, she just like,

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never. Let's them see it affect her.
She's just always cracking jokes.
That's like the core of the character in the movie is like,
you can't, you can't bring me down.
You know, the man can't hold me back.
But for the audience's sake, we just have to watch them try for
like 20 minutes and it's a huge bummer.
What an odd narrative pacing choice.

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I'm so curious as to like where the movie goes from there.
When you when you are starting at such a low point.
Strange. It's real.
Like bottom of the second act like low point storytelling and
it's like the very first thing that happens.
Tank Girl never gets a chance toreally even establish what she
wants in the context of this story.
Right. That's what I was thinking.

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It's like what, what journey is she on when she's immediately
suffering? And like, typically for a movie
like this, you would want to show how capable she is in like
certain situations, you know, Soit's like maybe have like that
first act action sequence where she's like, successful before
things start to go poorly for her because it's like, we're
supposed to be rooting for this character.

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This is the problem with the movie, like among many, is that
you have no reason to really care about her, aside from the
fact that we obviously don't like seeing anybody put through
these like, horrible situations.Because we don't know her, we
don't know anything about her. And her character never shows
any vulnerability even like in private so that the audience
could see that she's like putting on a front to to stick

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it to the evil characters. She's just always on.
She's always like in character as this like unflappable, you
know, rebellious hero character.So the whole time I'm just like,
all right, Tank Girl seems fine with all of this torture stuff.
I'm not I'm sad. Yeah, she's just like, don't
have a cow, man like. Pretty much it it it'd be like

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if you tried to like water board, Bart Simpson.
That's like what this movie feels like.
That's a good pull quote for themovie.
You tried to water board Bart Simpson.
So that's, that's like the wholefirst act.
For some reason, like, Malcolm McDowell becomes fixated on this
idea that he wants to, like, break her spirit because she's,

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she shows so much resistance to it.
And it even, it goes so specific, like he locks her in
like, a freezer for a while and then comes together and it's
like, you're going to work for me now.
And then she, like, spits in hisface, which is supposed to be,
like, doubly insulting because there's so much water scarcity.
It's like Dune. She's like, wasting her
moisture. Yeah.
Yeah. And then her second thing is so

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bizarre. He sticks her in a giant metal
pipe that he explains as it goesfurther down and gets smaller
and smaller. So you eventually get stuck and
he's just like, is it that scaryif you're claustrophobic?
And then so he like, puts her inthere for like several days and
then when he takes her back out,he's like, just say it.
Just say I won. Just say I, I broke you.
And she never does. That's like the whole dynamic

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for her, and for why he becomes so obsessed as the villain in
the movie, is that she just won't give him the satisfaction
no matter how badly he treats her.
Sounds like episode of Star TrekThe Next Generation where Picard
is being tortured. OK, let's dig into this.
That sounds more fun. No, hang on, the pipe thing does

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sound horrifying though. I wouldn't want it.
Just just like, couldn't you just stay in the part of the
pipe where it's bigger though? Like.
Well, they just like, it's too, too slick.
They just like throw her down the pipe and she gets stuck.
Yeah, that sounds awful. I've always been scared of
getting stuck in like one of those like water park slides,
you know? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a horrible thought, isn't
it? See, this is this is the fun

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1990s sci-fi movie Tank Girl. It's just like, man, that would
be a horrible way to die. And it's like we're 20 minutes
in. I haven't even started in on my
popcorn. And I'm just like, well.
Oh, I don't want this. I'm going to die someday.
Chicago Tribune says I don't want this.

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I'm going to die someday. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So eventually we meet another character called Jet.
I think in the comic she's called Jet Girl because again,
we're still doing the Supergirl thing.
In the movie they just called her Jet.
She is another prisoner of waterand power who has like technical

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know how. And so they have her in this
hangar fixing their like, helicopters and planes and
stuff. And she, as the other woman in
the movie, is also constantly being molested by a strange man.
They have multiple scenes of this soldier guy who just keeps
saying like, you know, I'm giving you all these special
privileges because you're smart.You know, maybe you got to make

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it worth my while or I'll take it all away.
And I, I kid you not, despite the literal post apocalypse
happening, you know how Tank Girl gets this guy to leave her
alone? She goes up to Jet and kisses
Jet herself. And the guy's homophobia is so
strong that it repels him and heleaves.
What? Yeah, he's, he's busy trying to

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molest this woman, and another woman comes up and kisses that
woman and he's too disgusted andso he has to go home.
This. Is not at all what I thought
this movie was going. To be it's not, it's such a
bummer. The whole movie is a bummer
until the second-half and then it becomes like a can't be
sci-fi movie. Like so she lives in a tank,

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right? Like.
Eventually she steals a tank. She doesn't even know how to
drive it at the beginning, but her and Jet eventually escape
and then Jet has a plane and Tank Girl has a tank.
OK, see. Like, why is that not where the
movie starts? Why do we not start there?
Like, I don't know. That's fun.
Now we're now we're in the territory of fun where you can

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go to a movie and be entertained.
Much like how on our show we tryto stay in that territory of fun
rather than this ravine of misery.
OK, so they get their they get their cool tank and jet and
they're like, wow, how So they wait, they call themselves that

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after they get those things or that was like already their
name. And they're like, oh, this is
convenient. Like now.
I'm Jack. I'm so glad I found a tank
because I've been calling myselfTank Girl this whole time and
all I had were shoes. No, she's they have different
names. They call Tank Girl Rebecca and
Jet, they just called Jet. So I think that one's more just
a coincidence. But then I think at one point

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Tank Girl in the tanks is like, I'm Tank Girl.
And so she Dons the the title. It's a superhero origin story.
You know, once you get the tank she get hit by a radioactive
tank. Yeah, I was going to say maybe
Girl's her last name. Like before she was Rebecca
Girl. And now?
Rebecca Girl and Now. She's tank girl.
And when they threw her down thetorture pipe, she was like, what
am I, pipe girl? Yeah.

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That's how the movie feels. Like they do this really
upsetting torture scene. And then her attempt to rebuke
it is always so like, gotcha. And it's like, you didn't get
them. You can't.
Like. OK.
The movie, I think, is trying tobe feminist filmmaking because
it's been written about in a lotof, like, books and articles
about its role in, like, feminist film of the 90s.

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And there are certain things it does that show that it was
leaning that way because despiteall of the like, you know, vibes
of the whole thing, there's no actual explicit content shown on
screen. Tank Girl as a character is not
shot in like a suggestive or like, objectifying manner.
And I do think a lot of the story is supposed to be about
her, like taking the power back in this deeply problematic

(27:58):
patriarchal society that she lives in in the post apocalypse.
But the dynamic of it is too sinister for her, just like
being sassy to feel like taking the power back, you know what I
mean? Yeah, totally.
She can't just be like crying and it's like sobbing and be
like cowabunga like. Like, that's me.

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That was me watching. Like, was the movie written or
directed by a woman too? Or is it like, you know, are
there any like women behind the scenes in the making of the
film? Because I feel like that would
be an important distinction as well.
Good question. The original Tank Girl comic
series was written by two men. The film was directed by a

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woman. Although she's one of the ones
who said that like the story gottaken out of her hands and there
was a lot of edits made. And I do think that some of what
was cut, which I'll get into does suggest that some of the
more like feminist elements of the visuals were were what was
removed. Like there was things done
trying to think of an example, like there's all this stuff

(29:05):
about women being abused in the movie, but then they also try to
do things to flip the script with Tank Girl because she
herself is like a very hypersexual character.
She's just like constantly making sexual references to
everybody else. And like, I think her house at
the beginning, she was supposed to have like a room full of sex
toys, like as a visual gag. And they, like, cut that out
because they were like, that's like, that makes people

(29:27):
uncomfortable. And it's like, oh, OK, like,
that's uncomfortable. Yeah.
Which which people does that make you?
Does that make you uncomfortable?
Exactly Male. Studio hits, male studio hits.
Or like there was a scene that Ithink I read was actually
present in the theatrical release but was cut in every
subsequent release, including what I watched.
Where I'm jumping ahead a bit. Tank Girl ends up with a mutant

(29:50):
kangaroo boyfriend who is half man half kangaroo.
I was going to say, when does the mutant kangaroo?
Boyfriend show up, boyfriend show up.
And there's a scene in the original cut of the movie that's
like them in bed together after having had sex.
And supposedly the company that built all of these very
impressive like kangaroo mask prosthetics had built like an

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oversized like kangaroo penis islike a joke that was supposed to
be visible during that scene. And they made them cut that too.
But it was in the theatrical cut.
It was supposedly in the theatrical cut, but a lot of the
things that the studio made the director cut out of the film
were like phallic imagery done to sort of trivialize men, you

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know what I mean? And like the types of things
where, if they were still present, would maybe aid in
making the movie feel more like counterculturally feminist.
And instead it's like, cut out all the parts that make men look
silly and leave in all the partsabout women getting hurt.
And then you can release the movie and it's like, oh.
Yeah. I mean, I mean, I'm at least
starting to see the, like, overall artistic intention of

(30:51):
the film now. Like, yeah, before it was, it
was heavily altered. Yeah, I will say that as far as
I could tell, I think even if this movie had been released in
the format that the original authors intended, it still would
not have been very good because these story structure elements
are like still poorly arranged. It's it's too much suffering for

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a character we don't know anything about.
And then ultimately the confidence of the other
characters get just isn't severeenough to feel like cathartic.
Like you can tell a story about something really upsetting or
serious and still make the audience feel like it was worth
experiencing because it kind of meant something.
Or like was trying to really elucidate something important

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that happens in the real world and Tank Girl just does not earn
the right to cover such messed up stuff in what is seen on
screen. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what
it sounds like. It's like that.
That's the thing that's most baffling or confusing to me.
Is that just that it was structured in such a way.
Yeah, I, I just don't understand.

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I mean, I, I guess I again, likeif that is the point they're
trying to drive home, if that's the thing they're trying to
illustrate right away is like what this woman is going through
in this world. I still think there's another
way to do that in a way that brings the audience in.
You know, you have to, you have to lure the audience in to, to
tell this story, I think. I agree, I think even as even

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the parts of the audience that would naturally be sympathetic
to everything the authors are talking about, like from the
jump, that's just not really howa movie works.
You're trying to take the audience on like an emotional
roller coaster to land them at apoint where they come to the
conclusion you want them to have.
It's like inception. You have to like plant the seed,
but let them have the thought. Whereas Tank Girl just like
shoves the thought at you. And then then like halfway

(32:42):
through gets tired of doing thatand is like anyway, kangaroo
guy. And it's like, well hold on, why
are we now backtracking? Cause the reason that shows up
is that I mentioned the Rippers are like the evil flesh eating
monsters. But when Tank Girl and Jet
finally encounter them, you findout that they are these like
army experiments gone wrong. And they're just these like

(33:02):
hippie monster guys who have allthese like they look like
furries. To be honest, they all just look
like dog man and kangaroo man. But they're totally like nice.
And well, they're not nice because they all still are kind
of lecherous and creepy towards all the women, but they're more
nice. Yeah, nice.
Nicer than. The.
Other people we've seen. Yeah, if you take like, sexual

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abuse, it's like a baseline for this world, which you, the movie
asks you to do, They're still the nice ones in comparison.
Yeah, yeah, this is reminding meof like, like I'm watching Game
of Thrones for the first time and that's how I feel about so
much of that show. I'm just like, I, I get it.
There's a lot of good storytelling happening here and
I and I see all of the like, youknow, violence and attitudes

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towards women that you're showing in this story.
It to illustrate a point. But that doesn't make it less
upsetting to see all the time, especially when you're like
binging a show like that. And it's like, Oh my gosh,
another one of these scenes. I don't need to see this again.
Yep. Yep, Yep, that is exactly how
watching Tank Girl feels. It's so bizarre how heavily they

(34:11):
double down on these elements. Like I said, I don't.
There's a scene. Tank Girl's little kid friend
gets kidnapped, and they track her down to what is shown to be
like a strip club. And there's this whole scene
where, like, they're trying to, like, send that girl away with a
grown man. And Tank Girl and company stop
this from happening. And I kid you not, the very next
thing that happens is they find the woman who runs the club and

(34:34):
is responsible for this heinous threat of violence against a
child. And they're like, how are we
going to pay her back? You know what Tank Girl does?
She makes her sing a song and then Tank Girl starts singing
the same song and it literally turns into a song and dance
number in the middle of the movie.
Wow. This movie is starting to sound
weirdly like avant-garde in a way.

(34:55):
Like it's like, was this AI mean?
I guess, yeah, You said it was atheatrical release, but it
sounds like this movie had like higher ambitions almost in terms
of almost being like a like an art house film.
Kind of I think it, it almost matches the spirit of the
original source material in terms of being very like

(35:16):
confrontational. But again, the edge is missing
from the whole thing, even in what did get filmed and kept in
the movie. Like you don't.
The other funny thing about thatscene, not that anyway it's
especially funny is that they rescue the little kid from
immediate harm. They do a song and dance number.
Nothing bad actually happens to the people responsible for that.
And then in the middle of singing and dancing, they stick

(35:38):
around for too long and the water and power soldier show up
and they kidnap the girl again. And it's like, Tanko, that's
your fault. You did that.
You sat around literally dancingon a stage.
And then the kid you saved is now missing and in danger again.
And it's like, are we supposed to be sympathetic to that?
Like that was on you. That's on you.
That's on you. What's her name?

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What was her original name? Rebecca.
Rebecca girl, that's on you. She'd.
Call you loser girl. So anyway, I don't story wise.
You don't need to know the rest man.
It's just they they meet they meet up with the kangaroo Bros

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who are all like super goofy. Iced tea is in the movie.
Is one of these guys lawn ordersiced tea?
They're all Kangaroos. Half of them are dogs.
One of them is a kangaroo. But they just say that it was
like an army experiment gone wrong and that the army, like,
tried to kill them all afterwards.
And then they just ran into thislittle, like, hippie hideout.

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And, like, one of them's like, reciting poetry and playing the
saxophone. Like, it feels like somebody's
weird caricature of, like, hippie liberals, but they're
supposed to just actually be thegood guy characters.
I'm like, oh, why are they so lame?
Yeah, so interesting this this movie like to what I was saying
earlier where you where you takelike what is kind of loose

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source material and adapt it. You know, it almost feels like a
like a Rorschach test of sorts that like, if you gave this
material to different directors,like what they would give back,
you know, like what type of filmthey would make.
Because there's a lot of interesting elements here to use
in this story. Like, I like, I like mutant

(37:26):
kangaroo boyfriend. That's just a funny sentence.
Like it? Just feels good to say.
Feels good to say like, you know, it's there's stuff they
can use in different thematic ways.
You know, it's like take take these same core elements, take

(37:48):
the the theming and just see what type of film comes out of
that. This just seems like and
unfortunate results I guess. Yeah, and I can place a lot of
the blame on the studio for forcing the authors to
compromise their vision. They're also, I haven't touched
on this yet, a ton of stuff in the movie was never filmed.
And so the entire thing is actually stitched together with

(38:11):
hand animated like comic style sequences that you would think
makes the movie a little more flashy and interesting.
But they kind of stink and they're all really short and
they don't properly bridge the gap between certain things that
were never filmed, and so it just looks bad.
Oh, I'm sure, because I mean, ifyou did that intentionally, like
if, you know, you planned on having animated sequences

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throughout the film to interjectat certain, you know, to kind of
drive home emotional beats or something, that would be
interesting. But when it's more of like a
Band-Aid to fix stuff that was supposed to be shot and is not
there, that just sounds sloppy. I mean, the end of the movie is
an animated sequence because they didn't film the end of the

(38:55):
movie. They beat Malcolm McDowell.
And then the whole imagery that they keep using is like, we're
going to break open this facility that's storing all the
water and just kind of let it like run over the desert and
like rehydrate the world. It's like, First off, the
drought was not water in Power'sfault.
There's still not enough water. So these people are just going

(39:16):
to burn through all those resources immediately, and then
they're all going to die anyway.But the way it's depicted is a
cartoon sequence of like a giantocean wave and Tank Girl and her
kangaroo boyfriend surfing on the wave and.
And then the movie just ends. Oh.
She's so she literally surf monkeys.
She does surf monkey. She surf tanks.
Yeah, so that's how this episodeis going to end.
Spoilers. It's just going to be an

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animated sequence for like the animated sequence sequence.
Yeah, I'm going to go to. I'm going to go to art school.
I'm going to learn how to draw. I'm going to make 47,000
drawings to show 6 seconds of footage.
Uh huh. There's going to be a
significant delay between the recording of this episode and
when it's released it. Might be 2033 by the time.

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I did it. Still not that good, but I did
it. Still not that good, probably
not worth the effort. Tank Girl.
It's the final pull quotes on the box.
I mean, that might be it. That might be girl.
There's more, there's. More but like, there's not, you
know? Take girls sound sad.

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I don't want to talk about sad assault.
That's how I felt watching it. So cowabunga, dudes.
We're going to go to our intermission now, and when we
get back, Frank's going to talk about what is hopefully,
hopefully a much more fun film, 1990s Dick Tracy.

(40:42):
Oh, I got nothing. Well, you got nothing.
All right, back now from the other side of the break.
Frank, we turn things over to you to hopefully save this
episode by talking about 1990s Dick Tracy.

(41:04):
Save her from what? I don't what's what's the
problem. What could you just bring
everybody spirits up? I feel like I'm having a cow
right now and I would like to nolonger have a cow.
Don't have a cow, man. Like how Tank Girl had a cow and
then they shot it at the beginning anyway.
Let's talk about Dick. No, you told me.

(41:29):
That's what you told me. To do, I did say to do that Dick
Tracy is also a comic book figure more in line with those
like pulp action guys that we talked about like The Shadow
earlier in the season. But once again, maybe not really
a superhero, am I right? I mean I I.
Think these guys are superheroes?
This is big time the shadow. This is like, what if the shadow

(41:53):
was OK? You know, like.
What if the shadow was also yellow and cool?
Yeah, that, that is one of my notes actually about Dick Tracy,
Unlike the Shadow, which might come up a lot as it has all
season. For some reason, yeah, it's.

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Just something we're always going to be talking about, it
seems. It's like, I feel like in the
Shadow, where we weren't really sure what his superpowers were
or what he was doing or what wasgoing on.
Dick Tracy is very simple. It's very straightforward.
He's just a guy who who dresses like the guy from Curious George
and and has a watch that he can talk into.

(42:39):
That's it. What?
That's it, That's it. Who's on the other side of the
watch? That's the other thing, his
random cop buddies also have that communicator watch, but I
think that was what made him special back in the day.
I think like in the 1940s or whatever, that was all it took.
Back when the world had water, that was all you needed.

(43:01):
Dill had water. There was nothing else going
wrong in the 1940s. I'm pretty sure nothing at all.
Yeah. So he had a I'm OK right away.
I'm guessing this is like, so that they could put
communicators at the bottom of cereal boxes for kids, right.
Oh. That sounds awesome.
I saw a news headline just the other day that Kellogg's is
bringing back toys and cereal boxes.
Nice, that'll fix things that'll.

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Fix everything. I was having a really bad day,
but if I get to the bottom of some Frosted Flakes and they put
a Dick Tracy communicator watch,I'm going to be like, wow,
what's that? No, yeah, it's just like a 2
liter bottle of Surge at the bottom of my Frosted Flakes.
If only bring back surge. I run the website by the way.

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I know. I figured you were one of the
six guys. Just try to try to get the word
out. Yeah, man, that's it.
That's it. And he, like I said, he's not
even the only one that hasn't like his friends have them too.
That's crazy. So his only differentiating
factor is he has a big yellow coat.
And a gun, I guess he does a gun.
I have a gun. But he's just like a cop.

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He's just a cop. Like he's like cool Mr.
Policeman. Like he's a detective.
I guess he's a detective. That's why he doesn't dress like
a regular cop. That's where he wears yellow.
He's a detective, OK, Yeah. People love cops.
I feel like that we should remake this now.
People love cops. Love it the TV show.

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OK, so Dick Tracy 1990, the characters from the 40s, do you
did you look up much about like his origin or like what he was
he mostly just a comic book character or did he do like ATV
show at some point? There was like previous Dick
Tracy films. I think they were like shorts.
They were like 30 minute films maybe, but they they were

(44:50):
released in the 1940s RKO Pictures released I think like 6
Dick Tracy like movies. And I'm sure there have been
other adaptations 'cause this isa character name.
I've heard enough. I I guess like it's a
recognizable character. I think people would see him and

(45:13):
kind of know who it is, but he'sdefinitely it's like they they
should do an Avengers movie really that's just like all
these like similar characters. You know where it's like Dick
Tracy, the Shadow Green Hornet, Dark Wing Duck as I.
Mentioned just a Humphrey Bogartjust to balance things out.

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He's kind of there. You're like, I'm not really sure
you belong here, but you can come too.
And then Batman honestly is justthe best version of this type of
character. I, I, I think they just kind of
perfected the formula with Batman.
And that's why he's so popular, because it's a fun environment.

(45:57):
It's a fun setting. This like the shadow is, you
know, it's set, I believe in the40s.
And to follow up on him just kind of being a discount Batman
in a way. Dick Tracy has like a rogue
gallery and they're just a bunchof weirdos.

(46:18):
Like there's they're, they're all like mobster, like gangster
guys, you know, And I'm like, you know, like a Batman where
it's like Clayface turns into clay.
And we got Riddler. You know, it's like this is we
got lips over here because he's got weird lips.
And this guy, that's literally his name.
And this guy over here is flat top because his head is flat on

(46:42):
top. Oh.
My God, I'm just picturing this turning.
It's like Dick Tracy, like berates people with like
deformities and handicaps and them just being like, stop
giving those people those names.I was thinking that too.
I'm like, but everyone calls them this like to their face.
They like people go up to lips and they're like, hey, lips.
And it's like, don't, I mean, you don't got to like, I'm sure.

(47:02):
Was he born with that name? Like does he like that because.
He like that. Yeah.
Like if he went up to remember in in Steel, his, his partner
Sparky ended up having to use a wheelchair.
And like, Dick Tracy walks over and he's like, you must be.
And they're like no, no, no, no.No, no, no, no, no, no.
Slow down. DT Well, I just thought because
that's what I see and that's allI can ascribe to them is how
they look. Put the watch away, Dick Tracy.

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I mean, it's the 1940s, so Dick Tracy just being just being an
old bigot would be pretty funny,honest.
Pretty accurate, yeah. Maybe that's why all these guys
don't like him. He's like stop calling me that,
but I don't know. And they all it's crazy
prosthetics in this movie too, like all of these guys are
wearing super exaggerated like prosthetic make up to to

(47:50):
highlight these features. The whole the whole film has a
very strong aesthetic vibe that they committed to.
It's I was and it's very clear watching the movie, but was very
interesting after the fact too, to kind of look at the
production ideology that that went into the film because they

(48:11):
were very committed, I should say.
Actually the film stars Warren Beatty as Dick Tracy.
He also directed the movie and produced it.
So huge part in this film. Like it was it was a film that
was in sort of a development of health for a really long time
and kind of bounced around different directors, like it was

(48:35):
going to be in the hands of different people.
I think at one point Spielberg was going to make a Dick Tracy
movie. How interesting.
I I think they got pretty far along with John Landis was going
to direct, but then he killed some people, so.
He did. Let's not elaborate on that at
all. And they're like.

(48:56):
It's OK, he killed them by negligence.
Not it was, just it was. Just an accident that was his
fault. Don't have a cow about it.
We've been. Over this cow about it OK, it's.
Spielberg being attached. Gosh, that's funny.
Spielberg did do Adventures of Tin Tin at one point, which also

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feels kind of of a similar era of like comic strip characters,
so that's not a huge surprise. Well, I mean, even Indiana Jones
kind of falls into that. Like if you're looking at like
I've always heard him, I don't know the like the exact
terminology, but it was like like cereal.
Not like cereal, like the Frost Flakes with the Serge in it, but

(49:39):
like. You know, like, no, like, yeah,
like pulp, serial action, short films, I don't know what.
Right. Yeah, exactly.
Like that's, that's, you know, it was like they, they, they
kind of like homaged it even in like Toy Story, two people might
be familiar with like the the whole Woody's roundup where it

(50:00):
was like, oh, you know, Woody's going off the Cliff at the the
end of this episode. TuneIn next time to see what
happens. You know, it was just like,
that's kind of what it like Indiana Jones is homaging.
So that was kind of very much inSpielberg's wheelhouse.
I like that because you were annoyed, I I suggested you might
not have heard of Point Break. Now you're telling the audience,
maybe you've heard of Toy Story 2.

(50:20):
It's only got like a 99% on Rotten Tomatoes.
OK, if it had 100 then I'd. Assume you've seen it.
Now back to these much more popular film Dick Tracy.
DT1990 yeah, yeah. So again, the visual aesthetic
of the film, super consistent. They, the film makers knew that
going in, they had a lot of likekind of strict rules about

(50:44):
making the movie. There's a lot of like miniatures
and matte paintings and like bright primary colors.
I believe there was like a sort of self-imposed rule that they
only wanted to use like 7 colorsin the movie because they're

(51:04):
trying to like as directly as possible homage these old comic
strips that had like limited resources.
Right, right, because we're likea colored print newspaper strip.
It probably had similar limitations or sorry, this might
not have been a newspaper comic,but it and I know what you're
saying though, like a short likenickel comic line thing that
they would do at the time. I could have been in the

(51:26):
newspaper, I don't know. I wasn't alive in the 1940s, so
I don't really know. What was going on?
I feel like we need somebody older than to talk about the
film. We would know.
I'm unqualified. I wasn't even alive in 1990 when
the movie came out, but the the cinematographer also mentioned

(51:46):
if you didn't even want to move the camera, like every shot is
static. There's like no camera movement
throughout the film because. No, it just sounds like he's
trying to get out of doing work.He was just like boss.
I think for the sake of the film, we don't even turn the
cameras on because. Shoot it wide and I'll be over
there. I'll be in my trailer, which I'm

(52:06):
not going to leave because I don't think Dick Tracy would
want me to. I don't think that's what they
would have done in the there wasn't a cinematographer in the
comics. So I mean, what do you want me
to do? Paycheck still very real, but
everything else I don't think weshould do.
Like no funny business. Anyway, sorry, let's continue.

(52:27):
No. No, that's that's exactly
that's. It's weird that you knew that.
That's how that conversation. Went it's like this worked on
Spielberg. He made the movie, just nobody
saw it because we didn't turn the cameras on.
Didn't turn the cameras on. It was very avant-garde.
It was extremely cinematic. You would have loved it if you
could have seen it. If you could have seen it, OK,

(52:48):
So very, very faithful, very, very like self-imposed
restrictions in order to make itfeel more authentic.
Do you think that all of that effort was worthwhile or just
kind of like unnecessary? I mean, I think it was
worthwhile. I I think this film has some

(53:08):
things going for it. It it has.
I said I was going to compare itto The Shadow.
The Shadow was a confusing mess.For the most part.
This movie is is very well structured it it has it's very
easy to follow. It has a script that works in a
very traditional three act structure, which like it is

(53:33):
oddly high praise I guess especially given the last movie
we talked about. This whole season, that's high
praise having like a good seriously structure.
Yeah, movies are bad actually, is my main conclusion.
Turns out, yeah, unfortunately, but yeah, this one, no, I was
like, OK, this is great. This is like I, I'm following

(53:54):
who these characters are. They're like motivations.
The story is moving at a good pace, but it has this overall
visual aesthetic that kind of puts it in its own category, its
own world. I guess it would be similar to
like a Sin City like it was thatmostly black and white film.

(54:15):
That used like. Some like I think the only color
that they would use would be redor something like.
That you're think I'll tell you what you're thinking of
Schindler's List. Oh, Schindler's List.
That's right. That's.
Oh yeah, that's such a fun movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the real double feature.
Tank Girl and that. Yeah.
No, no, no, yes. Sin City from the 2000s.

(54:37):
Actually, they told Steven Spielberg to make Dick Tracy and
he made Schindler's List. No like that.
He was like 7 colors. How about 1?
How about one? Turns out there was other stuff
going on in the 40s. What an absurd wide reaching
implication. Spielberg was doing research for

(55:01):
Dick Tracy that he was making without a camera and then
accident to World War 2 and was like wait a minute.
This doesn't look good. Guys did.
You know. About this.
In the 40s were not all good. Yeah, yeah, that's that watch
that he's talking about selling at the end.

(55:21):
That was a communicator watch. He's like, do you know I could
have saved more? Oh, such a specific poll for
children talking about the watch.
Liam Neeson, they're earning hisAcademy Award nomination.

(55:45):
Just going like I could have sold this communicator.
For. 50 more young ones to get them out of German, More young
legs. That's good that you brought it.
You brought it one step further.I thought we were done.
I thought we were done. But this keeps going.

(56:06):
I was going to say because they parody that scene in Seinfeld
specifically too. Oh yeah, yeah.
I won't get into it. We don't need to get.
Into the Seinfeld. Reference.
But series of asides. But it's very funny to me.
We'll bring it back. We'll bring it back to OK.
So. Downtown Dick Tracy.

(56:26):
Downtown Dick. Tracy OK, what is the is it?
Is the film structured as a detective mystery?
Is he trying to like, find somebody?
I assume so, yeah, He's he's no,he's trying to.
He's trying to bring down the mob.

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OK, OK. And his main antagonist in this
film is played by Al Pacino. And it is Al Pacino in, again,
ridiculous prosthetics. And he is giving the most over
the top, like hammy performance.And at first I'm like, Oh my

(57:10):
gosh, this is so embarrassing. Like, what are you doing?
Like, I'm like, I thought your Ithought your career took a
downturn way later than this, Al.
But. But as the movie goes on, I'm
like, no, you know what? Actually, he's killing this.
He's killing this. He's doing this exactly right.
And turns out he was nominated for an Academy Award for this

(57:32):
role for. Tracy.
For Dick Tracy, man downtown Dick he was.
That's not it. That's not what I call.
It is. It is, as it turns out.
Downtown Dicky T. Yeah, they just keep changing it
throughout the. Movie changing every time.

(57:54):
So he was, I assume, best supporting Actor nomination for
Al Pacino. Supporting.
Actor. Yeah, yeah.
That's. Crazy.
Yeah. And what's crazier, this movie,
the cast is, I feel like I always get into this.
I always get hung up on the cast, but it's interesting to
me. It's fun.
There's a lot of recognizable faces here.
The rest of this, the rest of the cast of this movie is great

(58:15):
too. Like he, he's giving a great
over the top performance. Madonna is in this film and she
actually gives a wonderful blah blah blah a wonderful
performance. That's a tongue tied.
I mean, that's not even the onlyone.
Isn't Madonna in A League of Their Own?

(58:37):
I. Think she is?
She's good, I. Think Madonna's a good actor?
Yeah, I think she was in Schindler's List too.
No, I found the Madonna dance number in the middle of
Schindler's List to be very ill placed.
It's a. Bit odd, should've gone at the
beginning. It's like Tank Girl, but yeah,

(58:58):
she even she there's like there was a lot of original music
written for this movie and she performs several songs that I
think one of the songs may have even won an Academy Award as
well. So wow, this was a yeah, yeah,
this this film high, high praise, high praise from the
Academy for downtown DT. But it was.

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Downtown defensive tackle Dick Drake.
He's just, he's just listening to the plays in his watch.
You got to coach. Omaha, Omaha.
Just like stop. Just stop doing that.
Just stop. You're ruining everything.
But there was also like James Caan was in this movie for like

(59:46):
2 seconds. It was like a cameo because he's
in like 1 scene. He's one of the gangsters.
I don't remember if he had like a nickname or anything, but he's
in the movie, he has like 2 lines and then he just explodes
and I was like great, that's a rap on James.
That's a rap on Mexican. Your Academy Award is in the
mail. Yeah.

(01:00:07):
Exactly. Speaking of, Dustin Hoffman is
in this movie also giving a likereally stupid performance.
Not not stupid in a good way. Like Al Pacino's comes like all
the way back around to being good.
Dustin Hoffman's is kind of juststupid.
Can I say that despite having noreason to think so, I I don't

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like Dustin Hoffman as an actor overall.
This guy has won so many AcademyAwards and has been in so many
acclaimed roles, but he was alsoin Sphere and I feel like that's
the real man. I feel like Sphere Hoffman is
the real Hoffman, and that's allI can see now when I hear his
name. Oh, I forgot about Sphere
Hoffman. Yeah, we also had two, two

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people who I would have would have been very excited to see,
but I completely missed them in the movie.
I didn't even know they were there.
The late great Catherine O'Hara was in this movie.
Didn't see her, don't know whereshe was, but she was apparently
in the movie. I think she might have been in
that same scene with James Caan.I think it might have been like
a sort of intentional cameo. And just like a like a group of

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cameos just for one scene. Yeah, possibly, but I really
could not tell you. That's my only guess as to where
she would have appeared in the movie.
Calm. Meany who, dude?
Dude, I swear, I swear to God, Iwas going to say when you
started saying like people I thought was in the movie, I was
like, well, it's Chief O'Brien in this movie.
Chief O'Brien isn't. This, I was going to guess Chief

(01:01:32):
O'Brien, if you've given me one guess, I want to say because
because he's been in other movies as like a gangster guy.
He was in some Nick Nolte movie as just like a rando gangster
guy. And so that was my first
thought. I can't believe that was.
Right. But I also missed him.
I could not tell you where he was in this movie.
I would have like, and I don't know if him and Catherine O'Hara

(01:01:54):
maybe were also in like heavy prosthetic and you just wouldn't
have even recognized them. I think in his case it wouldn't
have been like as a cameo. He was probably just a working
actor who. Because yeah, 1990, I mean,
that's that's probably not long before he got on Next
Generation. That's two Star Trek references
in one episode. We're we're doing great.
Yeah, that's, I mean we're almost at the minimum we we got.

(01:02:20):
Almost in our quota, yeah. Duh, that's.
Crazy. No one's going to believe me,
but I swear it was in my head while you were saying people who
showed up in the movie and I waslike Cole Meanie, Chief O'Brien.
Obviously that's what I would have expected.
Yeah, DS9. Come on.
Yeah, last one too. Dick Van Dyke was in this movie,
which that's just fun. You know, He's also, he's

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unfortunately very underutilized.
He's like the District Attorney,I think.
And he's kind of, you know, he'she's he's Harvey Dent.
We get Dick Van Harvey Dent. Dick Van 2 faced.
Dick Van 2 faced Dent and he this is just another like behind
the scenes thing. There's there's a scene he's

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only really in a couple scenes, but he gets killed by like Al
Pacino and the gang like halfwaythrough.
And I remember thinking this when I watched the scene, like
they shoot it wide because again, the DP was in his trailer
so. He did not want to go there.
He turned the camera on and he they were like, how's the
exposure? And he was like, I'm getting a
lot of exposure. I'm working on Dick Tracy.
And then he left. He's great crafty could be

(01:03:25):
better, but you know, we'll talk.
He's so this this scene is shot wide and they just they like
shoot Dick Van Dyke and he takeslike a bump.
He like dives backwards basically and you see the whole
thing. It's clearly him and and I
remember watching it and I'm like, that looks like it really
hurt actually, because there's no like crash pad or anything

(01:03:49):
behind him. You know, he just like jumps
backwards. I think there's like a desk and
like a bed or something. And I was like, oh, that looked,
I mean, good for you Dick that, that looked rough.
And then I found out, like reading afterwards that he broke
his shoulder and doing that scene and I was like, wow, that
is commitment. Did you do you relate to that

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scene as someone who just recently dislocated their own?
Shoulder, I was going to say, yeah, I mean, can't relate at
all. It's not like my arm is
currently in a sling as we speak.
Just like me. For real.
For real. Just like me, yeah I'm working
hurt but my boss here made me come in anyway.
I. Was like listen no days off
except for me I took like 2 weeks off to go on vacation but
other than that no days off. Said get your broke arm ass in

(01:04:34):
here and. Get down here and tell me
everything I want to know about Darkwing Dick Tracy.
Darkwing. Dick Tracy.
Yeah. What else do you want to know?
I. Mean yeah, I'm sold.
This movie sounds so much more fun.
I hope that this has been the levity for the audience that has
been for me. After talking about Tank Girl
for 40 minutes, this one sounds fun and nice.

(01:04:57):
Just just a good time. Yeah, I I won't even get too
much into the plot because it ispretty standard.
There's a fun reveal, I will say.
I mean, if you don't, if you don't mind me just spoiling the.
Whole lot of the film people, we've given them enough.
You can always skip ahead if youdon't want to hear spoilers.
Totally, Yeah. So there's an interesting, I

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guess, element that the film's really standard back and forth.
Dick Tracy's trying to catch thebad guy Al Pacino, but there's
like this kind of third character who's serving as like
a secondary antagonist who's like sometimes helping Dick
Tracy, sometimes helping out Pacino.
And it's like, this is actually kind of an interesting character
cuz I don't know what the heck they're up to, you know?

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And there it's the character is no face cuz again, crazy
prosthetics out of everyone. This is just somebody who looks
like looks like Rorschach from Watchmen, just without the the
Rorschach part, you know? Well, it's like a question.
The original decent character that was who was because
Watchmen was going to have question and then they couldn't
get him so they made Rorschach. Fun fact.

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That is a really fun fact. Thank you.
Had a lot of fun. It's like a roller coaster a
little bit. But yeah, so this character is
running around and it's revealedat the end of the movie that
that character is Madonna. It's the it's the other
character. She was playing.
She was playing like a singer inthe movie who was kind of being

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like held captive almost by Al Pacino.
And she was like this sort of femme fatale type character for
Dick Tracy. Because he he's, he has a
girlfriend in the movie who likekind of a running gag is that
he's trying to like propose to her throughout the whole movie.
But he like, you know, he's super brave in the face of
danger, but he's not brave enough to like, admit his

(01:06:47):
feelings for her. And, you know, there's some
tension between them because like, Madonna kisses him at one
point, she sees it and she triesto leave town.
And, you know, but yeah, it was like, it was like a fun reveal.
And again, I was reading, there's a lot of interesting,
like I enjoyed watching the movie.
And then there's a lot of interesting reading afterwards
about kind of how the movie cametogether and what happened

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afterwards. And there was a fun bit where
this movie, much like The Shadow, both came after the
first live action Batman, the first Tim Burton Batman movie.
This, this movie, I think is thethird movie you've had me watch
this season that Danny Elfman did the score for it.

(01:07:31):
Really. Because he did.
Which ones? I think he did super girl the
Shadow in this one. Well, there you go.
And in in the case of maybe all of them question mark, I think
they all, he got hired on all ofthose movies because of what he
did for Batman. Well, Supergirl came first,
right? Supergirl was 84.
Yeah, Yeah, totally. Yeah.

(01:07:52):
He might have gotten Batman because of Supergirl.
I don't know. That's true.
That's true. Yeah.
But he's he's very much in this like realm of like superhero
movies, but I mean, in Shadow and this it's like he just copy
and pasted like he was in his trailer with the DP, like he was
just like whatever. Leave.
You only get one trailer, Yeah. It's weird, it's really small in

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here. It's like a torture tube.
Now OK Danny Elfman music, I mean even copy pasted Elfman
scores got to be great. Yeah.
No, it was. It was great.
It definitely set the tone that they were going for.
But I'm sorry, I was, I got sidetracked from the the earlier
point. I was trying to make the the

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movie, much like the Shadow was they was a heavy, heavy
marketing push for it. You know, they wanted to make
like a bunch of action figures and market towards kids and
stuff like that. And I guess an interesting thing
was they released an action figure of no face, but you could
like take the mask off and it showed that it was Madonna.

(01:08:56):
So it was like, and these toys came out before the movie, so
it's like a big spoiler for the movie.
And so those toys because of that were like pulled off
shelves like almost right away. And now they've become like a
really rare collector's item because they were only sold
briefly and then pulled from theshelves.
So it's like some of them are out there and it's so it's not

(01:09:18):
rare if you can get like a no face Madonna action figure.
That is really specific. I like that.
Isn't that cool? That's just kind of a neat
little thing. Couple other things that I'll
highlight here. This was the last known use of

(01:09:39):
yellow screen, as opposed to blue or green screen for visual
effects in a movie, which was a process I was not familiar with.
It was yellow screen. Yeah.
Yeah, it it was. So it's 1990.
This is the last use of that as a way to superimpose images, you

(01:09:59):
know, to kind of layer two things on top of each other.
That's pretty ironic that you'retrying to like, key out stuff
from a Dick Tracy movie with a yellow screen.
It's like be Honest Steve guys wearing all yellow all the time.
Kind of a problem. Really didn't think this
through. Wonder if the screen was blue
and then that guy invented it right there on the spot.
That's how he invented it, yeah.But yeah, that I thought that

(01:10:22):
was interesting. This is also like notably like
one of the last major studio blockbuster releases to feature
no CGI effects. They had the the blue screen to
superimpose to images, but therewas no visual effects outside of
that. And it was also the first studio
film to use digital audio. So this is all very technical,

(01:10:44):
but I just find it very interesting because it's like
right at this precipice that we've talked about before in
terms of like a change in studioproduction filmmaking.
I'm trying to even, yeah, like Idon't even know enough about
sound to really have a good grasp of the difference between
analog and digital audio recording.
Like I could conceptualize that obviously they what it would

(01:11:07):
turn into, but I'm like, what isanalog audio recording?
What did that get recorded to Tapes?
Just one of those, one of those like monophone things where you
got to like crank it, you know? Man, that's just a weird moment
where I was like, I have no ideahow any of that works.
I'm not super familiar with likeaudio technology myself, but I

(01:11:30):
was just reading up on, I believe it might have been
talking to Danny Elfman actually.
And he was talking about how much she hated digital audio and
he hated the shift to what they were doing and how how it
affected things like when you actually were watching the movie
in the theater. So it's, it's like I said, very
technical. But to me, I found it just

(01:11:52):
really intriguing how like it was like the last and also the
first of some things. And it was right when that kind
of change was happening to everything really going digital
and implementing these new production.
Yeah, I mean, it does seem like the whole movie we, we kept
joking about them, like imposinglimitations.
But if anything, that's the filmmakers like flexing their

(01:12:16):
abilities to craft a very particular kind of image.
Like you don't do that kind of thing unless you have kind of
complete mastery over of all of it works, or else you just can't
get by with those limitations. So I feel like it's a it's an
impressive film on a technical level, in vain in many ways.
Yeah, no, absolutely. It's just, I think it totally
succeeded in what it set out to do, in having a very, very

(01:12:40):
distinct visual style. It's it's like I said, it's
like, what if the shadow was OK?What if?
The Shadow. Doesn't not good, OK.
Just OK, it's, it's, it's like it's, it's fine, you know, it's
entertaining. It's kind of like standard, very
boilerplate storytelling in a way.
But it has that aesthetic that is unique and familiar because

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of all the other things I've mentioned where people have
probably seen it before, and most famously in things like
Batman. Yeah, it's like, especially
given the first half of this episode tonight, I'm all down
for boilerplate. Boilerplate is good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's exactly.
I was like, I wasn't, you know, this will lead into my score for

(01:13:25):
the movie, but I was like, I feel somewhat indifferent about
this, but I'm not mad. This.
Is just a movie this is just a movie going experience I can I
can eat my popcorn it's. OK, popcorn, because you're not
busy having a cow. Last thing I'll say that I that
I liked reading about was also to promote this movie and this

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feels very this almost feels like how they would release like
short films in conjunction with other things.
This is sort of an old like theatrical release model.
They made a new Roger Rabbit short like animated short To Air
Like or to be screened exclusively before Dick Tracy if

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you want to go see the movie in theaters.
Really, I was like, that's great, that doesn't play more.
Roger Rabbit out there. If you play the movie on
streaming, it doesn't include that part.
No, no, no, no, no. I I I watched it.
I on I think one of those services we have to rent it and
that's not part of it at all. I I I, I think too, I remember
reading there was like the wholemedia releases of this movie

(01:14:35):
were very sparse. I don't I don't think it even
came on the DVDI think you can find the short online, but
you're not going to find it paired with I found a trailer I
like. I went on YouTube and I found a
trailer that was like because I typed in the name of that Roger
Rabbit short and it was like a trailer for like, you know, see
Dick Tracy and also exclusively see this Roger Rabbit like

(01:14:55):
animated feature before. Yeah, that's fun.
I do think that is a a lost art.Reminds me of the a lot of the
like late 90s early 2000s DisneyPixar films had little animated
shorts at the. Beginning.
Yes, exactly. Yeah, it's exactly like that,
yeah. It's such a cool little.
Touch Like for instance, you might have heard of this movie
called Toy Story 2. They did make a second one, I

(01:15:19):
don't know if people knew that but there was 2 and maybe more.
And maybe three more. OK, cool, I I'm sold on Dick
Tracy. I might go watch it just to
cheer myself up. Yeah, no, it's, I think you
would like it. I I think you would enjoy it not

(01:15:41):
be over the moon, but if yeah, exactly.
If you need if you need something to cleanse your palate
from tech girl, Dick Tracy wouldbe perfect.
Just a just a bit of DT when you're on the DL.
Just yeah. What?

(01:16:02):
OK, right, that was a fun conversation about Dick Tracy.
Definitely pick me up after the first half of the show, which is
bumming me out. So we now move into final scores
and wrap up. And as a reminder for everybody,
this is the last episode in our Forgotten Superheroes season.
So after we give scores for these individual movie picks, we
can see who cumulatively had thebetter picks and is the winner

(01:16:24):
of the whole season. I mean, I'm, I'm optimistic, I
feel like. Dude, Tank girl is sailing in 10
out of 10 Tank girl. I guess I do have to start
because I went first for the review.
I don't know what to make of tank girl.
Like, I can tell based on the original comic source material

(01:16:45):
and what the director had said, that they were trying to make
something that actually had kindof a message to it.
And I think that that message was lost both because of the
studio meddling that made them, like, soften the edges of only
some of it and not the rest. But I also think that even if
they made exactly what they wanted, it just would not have
landed for a number of reasons. Like the tone of the movie was

(01:17:07):
lopsided from the beginning and it was too like silly and cutesy
at points to also have such likeoddly disturbing imagery in it.
Not like what was shown on screen was that disturbing, but
just like conceptually upsettingmaterial.
And I just, I don't know, I think it was ill conceived.

(01:17:28):
This is how I would describe thewhole movie.
Yeah. Oh, sure.
Absolutely. I.
Mean it. Sounded very dour.
And I just felt bad watching it,like it was not ever fun.
And it it almost felt worse thatin the second-half they tried to
like, pick up everything becauseonce those goofy furries show
up, they're acting all silly furries.

(01:17:50):
There's a line in there I forgotto mention that I thought was a
joke where they're talking to the rippers who are just these
like goofy animal guys. And their lore is a little
confusing because they imply that they were an experiment
gone wrong where they tried to fuse humans with like animal
DNA. But then they also all at one
point say they have been reincarnated.
So I'm like, were you dead bodies that they tried to fuse

(01:18:11):
with animal DNA? Like, how does that work?
But they asked him, like, what they used to do before the
experiments. And then they turned to Ice T,
who's like the grumpy one. And they're like, well, what did
you used to be? And he said, I was a cop.
I was like, is that a Law and Order joke?
It turns out the movie came out before he started on Law and
Order. So I was like, oh, that was just
like a fortuitous joke. What fortuitous circumstance

(01:18:34):
through this. Yeah, check out our unrecorded
45 minute conversation this morning about the Pirates of the
Caribbean movies for more on that.
You see, we didn't record it because we were trying to be
authentic to the original material, like Dick Tracy.
Like, exactly like Steven. Steven Spielberg likes to do it,

(01:18:55):
you know. Spielberg was in.
He blocked the whole thing. And then he was like, all right,
turn those cameras off and go home.
That's how film. Making's done, so Tank Girl,
like, I don't have good things to say, but I'm worried about
being too harsh because I think the movie was going for
something and I want to give it credit for that.

(01:19:15):
Even so, Tank Girls, Tank Girls A2 out of 10, it's just totally
Tank Girl bombed. Why are you excited about this?
I don't know. I don't know why I did that.
It was just such an unexpected 2.
It's only the second time in this podcast that we've given

(01:19:36):
something that low of a score, the other one being Hoffman's
fear, which may be more frustrated than Tank Girl did
because it was just like, so tedious to watch.
But Tank Girl, I think just, like, should not be seen.
I think we are worse off for it being here.
Yeah, yeah, it's a big two. It's a big 2 / 2 two two.

(01:19:59):
That's almost a one. Which is first place over to
Dick Tracy? Oh, you're right.
It's like golf scores. You just flip it backwards.
Did we not mention we're doing golf scores?
Golf scores this season. That's been my strategy,
actually. So I've been recommending bad
movies. All right, Yeah, over to you,
Dick Tracy. I'm going to guess better than
A2. Yeah, definitely, definitely

(01:20:21):
better than A2. Dick Tracy was just a very movie
movie. It was a it was a movie
experience. You know what watching a movie
is like? It was like that.
I don't because I was watching Tank Girl but I would like to.
I'm sorry. Yeah.
Well, watch Dick Tracy and you'll kind of get a sense of
what a movie is. I'm.

(01:20:45):
I gave it A-77 for. Yeah.
I mean, like, I may have kind ofeven undersold it because I
didn't get too much into the story of the movie, but I think
I gave you maybe a good idea that it it's a pretty standard
narrative with a lot of stylistic flair and execution.

(01:21:08):
And I I think maybe unlike Tank Girl, it knew what it wanted to
be and it did that. So to me, very standard, like
didn't love it, but definitely didn't hate it falls into that,
you know, very middling range, which is like kind of between A6

(01:21:28):
and A7. But I'm I'm going to give it a
seven. It was it was a unique enough
experience. Yeah.
I feel like that is still high price.
Like anything that to make a movie even remotely good is very
difficult. So it's not like, you know,
it's, it's demeaning, something to say like, yeah, it's a six,
it's a 7. It's like, no, that's pretty
good, yeah. I, I would watch Dick Tracy

(01:21:50):
again. So I feel like that, you know,
that's says a lot, I think, yeah.
And I do like, I love that aboutthis show.
Is that because of it, we're both watching stuff all the time
that we would never sit down forotherwise just because we didn't
know about it or like, it doesn't draw enough attention to
like, compel us to put it on. But at this point, we've talked

(01:22:12):
about like 30 movies between thetwo of us in these long form
reviews. And I'm like happy to have seen
all of them except for Sphere and Tank Girl.
Sphere. Sphere was worse though, right?
I mean. Sphere was worse because it was
a similar thing where the movie just like didn't come together
and was not finished. Tank Girl made me more upset but

(01:22:36):
Sphere I think made me more angry.
OK. That is, that is a distinction.
Angry versus upset, sphere versus Tank Girl.
It's going to be our like champion of champions match up
down the road. It's just like, which would be
worse? That would be fun at some point
if we did like a bracketed tournament with all these
movies, you know? That would be fun.

(01:22:57):
We are always looking for for like side content because I
think you and I have fun. We've seen so many movies that
because of the premise of the show, we don't talk about.
It's like movies we've never seen before.
So I like finding other ways to to rope in other stuff.
Yeah, I mean, check, check out our re Mem series.
Check out RE MEM, but we're trying to get RE Mem going as an
acronym so we don't have to say ranking every movie ever made

(01:23:20):
every time it comes up. So check out REMEM 2 available
now. We ranked eleven more films
randomly drawn out of a hat. Pretty funny.
I thought so. I thought so.
Yeah. All right, Frank, that brings us
to the end of this episode of Meet Your Double Feature.
But it's also the end of the season.
We have done 6 episodes now talking about forgotten
superhero films. And Are you ready to find out

(01:23:42):
who won the season overall? Oh man, you know, I mean like I
got my acceptance speech ready. I want to.
Thank your nominees are Al Pacino.
Al Pacino, best supporting actorfor playing goofy mobster guy
whose name I don't remember in the movie.
I want to thank him. You're.

(01:24:04):
Giving up thanks while they're naming the nominees.
I'm like up on stage. It's like overlap.
They're playing the music too, to try and play me off.
While they're still naming the nominees, they're.
Like trying to play clips from the movies and they're like,
this is a great scene that got up there right now.
I should really check it out. I like that one.
I haven't seen this movie but that was pretty good.

(01:24:25):
Who's this guy in the front row?Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's he want? What's his deal?
You don't recognize Al Pacino because he doesn't have.
The make up on him, yeah. All right, well, not to
disappoint you, but because I won today's episode for having
picked the movie that got the higher score, I also held on to
my lead for season 2. So after six episodes, 6 films,

(01:24:47):
each movies you selected Frank had a total score of 25, which
means on average they were getting less than a 5 out of 10.
Which is not our fault, all right?
We don't need your math in here.OK?
This is a movie review show. That's a good point.
None of us were good at STEM. My movies got a combined total

(01:25:08):
of 33, so it was actually reallyclose until this episode.
We had quite a quite a stratification here because Dick
Tracy was better than even I thought it would have turned
out. Look, leave Trish Stratus out of
this too. OK, boy.
OK, so I listen. I don't feel good about it.
I don't feel good about the factthat I won by kind of a

(01:25:31):
landslide this time, especially because we didn't set up prizes.
Yeah, that's true. I, one of my friends who's been
listening to the show, he textedme recently and he was like, he
texted me and he was like, when are you going to watch the
prophecy movies? And I was like, oh Dang,
somebody's holding me accountable to that Season 1
wager that we made. Yeah, that if you weren't

(01:25:53):
listening, then at the end of Season 1 we said that whoever
lost had to watch the other 4 direct to video prophecy films.
And Frank, that is on you. But we haven't really done it
yet because we're trying to finda way to make it into content
that's not just me being like and then what happened and then
what happened. So I think I've got ideas for

(01:26:13):
that, which it'll come out later.
We haven't forgotten about it. But to be honest, there's not
enough people holding this accountable, so I don't feel a
big hurry. We.
Will get there, yeah. Let us know in the comments if
you're really waiting to hear about Prophecy 2 through 5.
It's important lore for the show.
And we will, we will come back to it.
It's like, it's like one piece. You just got to wait like 20

(01:26:35):
years for it to come back around.
Yeah. Takes 20 years and at the end
you're like, I guess we're so back.
I don't know if we're back. I've forgotten where we were I.
Don't know if anybody wanted this in the 1st place, but here
we are. OK, well that wraps us up for
Season 2. We have not yet announced the
premise for season 3 and part ofthe reason is because we have

(01:26:56):
not finalized the premise for season 3.
So this is a good chance I haven't even thought.
Well OK, I've thought about it, but.
I, I just show up. I just do what he tells me to.
Frank shows up, turns the cameraoff and goes back to his
trailer. That's what we're an audio only
show. So I think what we'll do, we
have some supplemental content coming out in our next pair of

(01:27:16):
episodes. We have another ranking.
Every movie ever made. Another remem coming up soon as
well as a new bonus series that I want to kick off that Frank
you and I are going to record soon.
I'll say right now it has something to do with a childhood
favorite film of ours. What are the live action?
No, we're going to be doing a special episode about the live

(01:27:41):
action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies because we've
seen them 600 times and I had anI had an angle to talk about
those from. So we're going to come out with
that soon, and then probably in another month and 1/2 or so,
we'll start Season 3. And what that means is that you,
the audience, can help us decidewhat our premise is for the next
season. So if you've been listening
along, you have an idea, a type of film you want us to talk

(01:28:02):
about, let us know. Leave it in the comments.
Text Frank directly, whatever you need to do.
I'm going to put his phone number on screen now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Throw that up there.
Make a part of the animated sequence that we'll.
Have Oh, that's right. We have to have an animated
sequence to end the movie. Oh boy.
Or not in the movie, in the podcast.
Yeah. So now we're going to do 5

(01:28:22):
minutes of our animated podcast outro.
And if you don't happen to see it.
It's on you. It's on you, I'm going to say.
You got to believe, all right? It's like Tinkerbell and.
Peter, clap kind of clap. Do believe in fairies.
OK, Frank, any, any closing thoughts about our superhero
season? It didn't go the way I thought

(01:28:44):
it would. It was really interesting that,
I mean, I guess, I guess I mean that in a good way too, because
we watched movies. I think they all fit that
criteria, which was kind of a big thing for at this at the
beginning. Like it's got to be a superhero
movie of some kind, or at least a comic book movie, That girl.

(01:29:08):
But I feel like we watched a really interesting variety,
which is almost like, or I should say always the most
important thing to me. I, I liked our first season a
lot because we were talking about 90s movies and that was
such a big pool to pull from. And I feel like we made this
season shorter because we had a narrower focus of what types of
movies we were going to talk about.
But it still got us a good spread of of different things.

(01:29:31):
So we talked about, I liked thatsome international films we got
to rope in some of our background in stuff like Power
Rangers, talking about tokasatsufilms.
We talked about the, like, noir characters, a couple of, like,
regular superheroes, like Supergirl.
I think it was fun, yeah. Totally.
I enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to next
season. Once you tell me what that is,
I'll be here. Figure out what it is going to

(01:29:53):
be. As my arm heals, I'm sure he'll
be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ready to play again? Put me in couch Yeah.
Ranks injured reserve right now while we figure out Season 3 in
the meantime. Defensive tackle Dick Tracy in
my place. Defensive tackle Dick Tracy.
That's right. It's not big enough.
It's not big enough to be a TT. He's going to get bowled over.

(01:30:14):
What a loser. A loser.
Step on his dumb watch. OK, I'll do it for Season 2 of
Meet Your Double Feature. Before we go, of course, if you
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And then, Frank, you have one more update about your

(01:30:58):
independent feature, right? I do.
I'd forgotten about that. This man, Yeah.
Where do you go I'm. Just in the trailer, hanging out
with, you know, Stanny Elfman and.
Thinking out in the Elfman trailer, Thinking about nothing.
Just thinking about nothing to start off into space yeah.
So Nate and Mariah in Venice is currently streaming on Amazon

(01:31:21):
Prime Video and starting May 5thwill also be available to watch
for free with ads with limited ad breaks on Tubi.
There you go, which is. Great.
I love fantastic big. Tubi fans here.
Big Tubi. Fans and I do think that looking
at our schedule, this will be out after May 5th.

(01:31:42):
So if you're hearing this episode, it is now available to
stream on Toby free with ads, which means that if you're
interested in the film, you can check it out.
No barrier to entry. Give it a watch, text Frank
directly. We're going to put his phone
number back on the screen. Let him know what you thought.
Please do. Yeah.
Please send me your reviews. You don't.
You don't even have to log into Toby.
That's the great thing. That's true.
No barrier to entry. It's right there, and there's

(01:32:05):
really only one movie on there worth watching.
But you know, it's a good app. You know it's funny.
Guess where I watch Tank Girl? Did you watch it on Tubey?
It was on Tubey all right. Let's go.
So skip over that. Do not watch Tank Girl please
watch Nate and Mariah in Venice independent feature film.
Franco produced and was the cinematographer on he he turned

(01:32:25):
the camera on. I did, I did remember to do
that. There was no studio involvement
in that one either, unless you know, you count us as, you know,
the the studio, in which case wewere very involved.
So. Studio meddled in your own
production. Yeah.
All right. Well, that's exciting news.
Thank you so much for joining us.

(01:32:46):
And we will be back in two weeks.
We're not taking any time off, but we'll be back with some
supplemental content in two weeks.
Join us again in a couple more weeks and we'll be back with
Season 3. I don't I don't see the the
animation. I think I've I think I've lost
my child like innocence after hearing about Tank Girl.

(01:33:18):
Coming up next, it's a new episode of ranking every movie
ever made. Stay tuned for more, and thanks
for listening to Meet Your Double Feature.

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