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Tech is great, but it can't really replace retail strategy and that
human touch that makes the world of difference. And if that does happen,
you're risking losing customer trust along with their loyalty and spend
I'm going to unpack this in this episode, which is part two of a three
part series focusing on discounting data and how to
escape the middle market trap.
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So if you heard episode one, you may or may not know that this three
part series is going to be supported by a free downloadable resource
and a free retail clarity quiz with some
recommendations and follow up, but I'll explain more about that at the
end. This episode particularly focus on what I'm
calling the retail battleground. It's the healthy tension between
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pricing data and trust. Now to recap, in the
last episode talked about the uncomfortable truth that cheap is
winning. And what that really means is margins are under so much pressure
across every part of retail. But then there's a second layer, isn't
there? Because if pricing pressure is what you see on the surface, what's
happening underneath is much more structural. And we covered the fact that pricing is
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changing. It's not just about promotions and markdowns, but it's about the
way that the customers are making decisions in the first place.
And that's where we have to start taking that mental
shift from retail as we know it to something more complex.
And we're going to explore that shift. There's a lot of stuff out there
about data LED pricing, dynamic systems,
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shelf edge labeling that mean that you can do real time
price optimization. And we all know it happens in travel
with flights and trains, but it isn't really something that happens
typically in retail. Now all of this has been designed to improve
performance, but it raises a really important question. What
happens to consumer trust when pricing stocks feeling
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predictable? I'll give a little example. I happened to buy some shoes
online a couple of weeks ago and a few days later
I got an email now that I was subscribed to their email list telling
me that two of the pairs I'd bought were 50% off. And I
was like to be honest, if you're going to discount something that
suddenly, then perhaps it would be nice to have said and because
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of that we're giving you a credit because we know you've only just
bought some. But that didn't happen. And I covered that in a topic
about the Boxing Day sales in a podcast previously
about how it's really hard to get customers
to trust that the price isn't going to drop and to part with their
money because they expect pricing to move
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around. Now, when we get to the final episode of this series, I'm going to
pull all this together. But it's all to do with pricing is changing and the
pressure on businesses is rising and it results in
quite a few ending up something that they didn't intentionally choose to be
kind of stuck in the middle. And at the end of this series, we are
going to talk about how to fix that.
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But first I'm going to dive into what's actually changing.
So everybody knows smart pricing is becoming much more
available. And pricing has always been part of
retail positioning and marketing. But historically there's been
sort of a, they call it in supermarkets, the known value item.
It was relatively stable. People know what to expect to pay
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for something and they don't expect it to jump around from
day to day or hour to hour. And it was clear
you set the price. Maybe you ran a promotional remarkdown
occasionally and there might be strategic promotions
with suppliers and bundle deals and so on. It was relatively
straightforward. But now if that model has entirely changed,
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we're moving into the world where pricing is more
data led, customer behavior,
analytics influenced. Gosh, that's a hard sentence to to
say system generated and
potentially continuously optimized, which
is exactly what we see with the price of flights and trains and things like
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that. From a business perspective, of course it's powerful.
It means that you've got much better margin control,
a more rapid and data led or almost
automated reaction to fluctuations in demand,
much more efficient stock flow and movement, and
much more responsive trading decision. But if you take the personal
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out of that and the human touch and allow, for example, AI
or similar to run pricing and promotions in order
to stimulate demand or pull demand back, if you're running low on
stock and so on, then it rather
confuses customer because on paper it
sounds great. But retail is actually much more human than that.
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It's not just an Excel model or a dashboard. The fact is,
and it always has been, that relationship between the business and the
customer. And when you start to let too much go under
automation and not necessarily sanity check it, that's where the
tension begins.
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Because what the customer experiences is not the optimization
and the margin growth that the retailer experiences, they just
experience the price and they look at that with just
one single focus, I guess, and it's fairness.
And fairness is fundamental to trust. And nobody wants to feel that
just because I went shopping at 10 o' clock in the morning, I've ended up
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paying 20% more for my basket than the person who went out at 4 o'
clock in the afternoon. Discounts that we see when it's something coming to end
of shelf life are acceptable. But where you've got electronic shelf
edge and prices of baked beans flitting about,
then you have to start questioning, is that fair? And I think
this is where it could be that some of the tools and
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technologies enable retailers inadvertently to sort
of cross the trust line. And this is what really matters. Because,
yes, customers are rational and price sensitive, but they're not
only rational decision makers, they also have the
emotional interpretation of value and experience. So
clear pricing logic, what I just said is coming to the
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end of shelf life and therefore it's being reduced to clear so it doesn't end
up in the bin. That's logical, predictable value. So
if you buy something regularly, you have a very strong idea about what it
might cost. Yes, we understand that inflation takes things up,
but it's when things bounce around and I guess they do accept
occasional variations. So it might be on a promotion or it might be a special
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deal or a bundle, but anything
that feels, you know, inconsistent, unclear,
wobbly, if the price is moving around too quickly,
they're likely to question it. And if two people were going to pay
different prices for the same product and then they spoke to each other,
they would notice. It's a bit like the advert I've seen lately,
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and that's, again, it shows dynamic processes of pricing
in travel. I think it's the Trivago one where you've got three
different people and one is paid considerably less
because they use the Trivago app. Now, there's an
argument to say the price should be standardised, but
the difficulty with travel is, of course, you need to saturate
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your accommodation or fill up all your seats, whereas
with supermarket goods, we know there's a flowing supply chain and
similar with clothing, it's not quite the same thing. But even then, in that
advert, they highlight the point that the person who's paid
more is disgruntled and feels that perhaps
they've not got value. They were happy with their price up until they found that
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somebody else had got it cheaper. And I think that that's the issue.
If pricing in retail begins to go down the same
way as it can be in travel, it might lead people
to sort of disengage with the brands and
feel that they're not confident what they're getting. It
might push them to shop around more or to even
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just walk away. And you see, once that's happened. The
trust has moved. And trust isn't automatic.
I'd say trust is not a soft metric either.
It is the foundation of loyalty and repeat behavior and of course
repeat spending. It's quite slow to build
that trust, but it's very fast if you want to lose it.
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So despite the fact I like to think of myself as someone
who uses data to make decisions and can
do a range review based on margin, I also understand that
there are certain other indicators that you need to consider
as a decision maker in a business.
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Data is not your store strategy. And I think that's where a lot of
businesses might be heading in the wrong direction. The belief that
more data, and particularly automation can lead to
better outcomes. But I don't think it does. Not every single time.
Data's just a tool and I totally commit to
my love of data. It's a very powerful tool. But
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what really matters is also how you interpret it. You need
the experience and some of the instincts around
that the data can guide and steer and
you still can make the wrong decision. You can have all the dashboards in the
world, insights, exception reports, real time reports.
And if you haven't got the right knowledge and skill and
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instincts and even some of the gut feel that really matters,
then you can still make worse decisions with more data
if you interpret it wrong or if your customer perspective
is missing one example and it's not on pricing, it is on range
reviews is you might have a product that makes negligible margin
and only has a trickle of sales, but if that product
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repeatedly ends up in the basket of some of
the most high spending loyal customers whose total basket value is
super high margin, then you wouldn't cull the product.
But if the product was just a dead leg, you would. But that's where going
a bit deeper really matters. And the system won't necessarily be able to
decide that for you. So I think that sometimes
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internal optimization can override the
common sense and judgment that you develop over time
as a retail professional. So I think that's really the most
important thing. The risk is trusting the data more than
judgment. And the faster decisions and the automated
decisions are not always the best. So if I was to talk to a
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retailer right now about what they should focus on,
I would be saying, well, how do you navigate this? Obviously we're
not going to reject the data, but you can't blindly follow
it. And I would say there are three key things
to really anchor decision making too. First
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is clarity. The customer needs to understand what you stand for.
Covered that in Episode one as well. Even if pricing
changes, the value proposition should not feel unstable. It
should still feel clear and relatable
and trusted. And then second, consistency.
There's no need to have fixed pricing everywhere.
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And I know for a fact that, you know, you can buy in a
supermarket in one area, something for a lot less than in
another area. And quite a lot of the time it's to do with it being
a convenience store or it might be in a train station. And you know,
the pricing is variable according to the location,
so you don't have to have fixed pricing everywhere. But consistent pricing
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logic is really important. Customers
need to be able to make sense of the pricing and think, oh well,
it costs a bit more here, but I guess it is a railway station or
an airport and the property is probably a
premium or whatever, so they can rationalize that.
But if it's the same store and prices are bouncing around throughout the day
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just because of demand and forecasting algorithms,
that's not consistent. And then third, I think
control, and I kind of touched on it, but I
would not want to allow my business
positioning to essentially be outsourced to
systems. In so much as I wouldn't let
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AI make decisions for me or any other tool.
It needs to be rationalized, validated and humanized.
Yes, of course, data is really important to inform decisions,
but it can't replace your judgment. And ultimately
your brand is not a system output. It's
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much deeper than that. It's the set of decisions that still
need human ownership. And it's that essence, that
personality, that DNA that makes
customers feel that trust and remain loyal. I mean,
I guess it always comes down to what I said earlier. Retail has never been
anything about just transactions. It's always been
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about relationships. Even if you don't know the customer in person,
you understand who they are and what their needs and wants are, and
you go out of your way to predict them with right products in the right
places at the right price. It's all the P's of marketing and
relationships always depend on trust. So I
would say using data to improve efficiency is one thing,
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but not to the nth degree. And that's the
point about long term success. The customer has to believe that pricing
is fair. In a world where pricing on many other things
is much more dynamic and automated, it's also less visible.
Fairness might even become your competitive advantage in its own
right, and not because it's particularly cool.
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I mean, I would say it's the fundamentals of any customer relationship. But the
thing is, it's becoming increasingly rare.
So to wrap up, let's bring this back. In episode one, I
talked about price pressure and the rise of discounting. In this
episode we've looked about how pricing is evolving behind the scenes with
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the use of automation and AI and various other tools and technologies.
And these forces are leading in many respects to a
similar outcome. Because when the pressure inside the business increases
and pricing decisions become more complex, a lot of
businesses can end up in a position they didn't really deliberately choose.
And they're not the cheapest, not the most premium stuck somewhere
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in the middle. And that's exactly what we're going to cover in the next and
final episode of this mini series. Because the middle is not just
a description, it's a problem. But importantly,
it's fixable. So if you've enjoyed this episode, we do
have a couple of resources linked to it. There are playbooks
available that offer deep dives into various essential topics, but
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we do have a free downloadable one for these three
parts of the series, and they're at retailchampion.co.uk
retail-playbooks or if you subscribe to
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We'll also be able to update you when more of those resources go live.
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And a number of them will be free. Some of them won't be. And then
finally link to this about the clarity, consistency, pricing and everything else. We've
devised a Retail Clarity Scorecard Quiz. So
we'll be able to let you go through a simple quiz on
the website and you'll be able to receive personalized
recommendations based on your answers. And if you've subscribed to
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the newsletter, I'll send you the URL to that in due course.
So hopefully, if this has provoked any thoughts and you want a no obligation
chat with me, you can contact me on
championetailchampion.co.uk, or or drop me a WhatsApp
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and I'd be delighted to have a discussion. This has been Retail Reckoning.
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My name's Claire Bailey, the Retail Champion. Thanks for
listening.
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