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Can congested city streets and tolls cripple the trucking industry, or is there more to the story? Join me, Walter Gatlin, on the Rollin' 18 Podcast as we break down New York Governor Kathy Hochul's surprising decision to indefinitely halt the NYC congestion pricing plan. We'll uncover the factors at play, from the pressures exerted by the Trucking Association of New York to the economic aftershocks of the COVID-19 pandemic. Discover the financial impact these tolls could have had on truckers and motorists alike and delve into the legal battles questioning the constitutionality of such measures. This episode is a must-listen for truckers navigating the economic realities of operating in high-tax states like New York and California.

Moving on to logistics, let's discuss a less glamorous but equally vital topic: load securing. The episode underscores the shared responsibility between manufacturers and truck drivers to ensure that loads are tightly packed and stable. Improperly secured cargo isn’t just a nuisance; it’s a safety hazard. I've got tips on how to manage these challenges effectively, and as a bonus, advice on maintaining professionalism online. Avoiding unproductive arguments is key to staying focused on the road. This episode is packed with insights that are crucial for a successful and safe trucking career. Tune in for practical tips and industry updates that every trucker needs to hear.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Rollin' 18 Podcast.
This 40-year veteran is herefor anyone wanting to stay up to
date with the trucking world.
Grab your coffee, hop on boardand let's get on down the road
with Walter Gatlin.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello everybody and welcome to Rollin' 18 Podcast.
Hard to believe we're up toepisode 23 already.
That is awesome.
I appreciate all you folksdownloading and or listening to
my podcast.
Remember you can download itanytime you want, listen to it
anytime you want.
That would be great for you andfor me.
Appreciate it.
The news story that I'm going toget on today is about the

(00:42):
governor of New York Slammed thebrake on the New York City
congestion pricing planindefinitely.
Yes, you have heard mecorrectly.
New York Governor Kathy Holzerannounced Wednesday she was
calling a halt to the congestionpricing plan that would have
daily charged truckers and othermotorists to drive in the
busiest section of lowerManhattan.

(01:04):
The plan was set to go intoeffect at the end of the month.
After careful consideration,she said, I have come to the
difficult decision thatimplementing the planned
congestion pricing system riskstoo many unintended consequences
.
I have directed the MTA,metropolitan Transportation
Authority, to indefinitely pausethe program.
Now, do you think she gothammered by people?

(01:25):
I don't know, but according toTrucker News, it says Hochul
said her decision took intoaccount the lingering effects of
the COVID-19 pandemic onworking families.
Now she could have come up witha better idea.
Like it wasn't fair or itwasn't constitutional, but they
always have to seem to bring upsome sort of political,

(01:46):
ideological thing that's goingto try to convince people that
they're right, even though theyknow they're right if they would
just use the right explanation.
She said the tolling plan wouldcreate another obstacle to our
economic recovery.
The governor had previouslysupported the plan.
Now, the Trucking Associationof New York, which recently
filed a lawsuit against the plan.
There's the real reason,governor Cathy.

(02:10):
Yeah, take your little proteinpills and your lobotomy,
whatever, and go back into yourapartment, because the Trucking
Association would have sued youand they probably wouldn't have
voted for you the next timeeither, so you would have lost
the election.
And that's probably what mostof this is all about.
Usually, when it comes to moneyand when you mess with the

(02:31):
trucking industry and you messwith people and their bucks
personally, when they have tostop and pay all these tolls,
when you have millions of peoplein New York jumping the turn
tile on the subways anyway, itreally doesn't matter.
Now, in response to thegovernor's action In response to
the governor's action, astatement from the association

(02:52):
said that at this time, theTrucking Association of New York
has no intention of droppingits lawsuit against MTA over its
congestion pricing framework,despite the governor's reported
decision to indefinitely pausethe program.
The current plan isunconstitutional and any future
iteration or implementation mustinclude reform to protect the

(03:13):
supply chain and preventincreased economic hardship for
all New Yorkers.
Now we are awaiting word fromthe Southern District of New
York regarding the next steps.
Now, knowing the judges outthere, they'll probably go ahead
and dismiss the lawsuit becauseshe has promised to
indefinitely suspend this.
But we know where that goes.
We know how politics works.

(03:33):
That's why I discussed in mylast podcast I don't do politics
, I'm not that stupid.
Okay, I know where politicstakes us.
It divides us, it brings in asituation to where we can't
recover.
They have made politicssomething that you have to keep
near and dear to your own heartand to your own lifestyle.
And if people would do that andquit discussing it near and

(03:54):
dear to your own heart and toyour own lifestyle, and if
people would do that and quitdiscussing it and quit trying to
argue in order to be right,they would probably think a lot
more logically anyway.
Now the Trucking Association ofNew York last week filed the
lawsuit challenging the New YorkCity plan to charge motorists,
including truckers, fees fordriving into the city's major
business district.
The Trucking Association suitquestions the constitutionality
of the congestion pricing plan,which was set to begin on June

(04:18):
30th.
Several other lawsuits havechallenged the environmentally
review process employed by theMetropolitan Transportation
Authority in creating what willbe a one-of-a-kind fee in the
United States.
Now, like I mentioned last week, the congestion pricing plan
calls for trucks to pay between$36 and $24 every time they

(04:38):
enter the so-called congestionrelief zone, which is defined as
that, a portion of Manhattanbelow 60th Street.
That compares to $15 a day.
Drivers of passenger cars willbe charged.
It's totally out of whack.
You might as well start taxingus to cross into other states.
How about we show our ID?
Maybe we show our birthcertificate?

(04:59):
Oh, that ain't going to work.
We better stick with ID cards.
You don't even need a driver's,just come across the border.
Yeah, new York, california,they're all a bunch of wackos.
Don't live there if you don'thave to, and if you're a trucker
from new york, dude, move.
That's all you gotta do is justmove.
I'm not telling you to live inthe highest tax state on the
planet.

(05:19):
They don't.
They tax more than the kingdoes in england.
You guys out of your mind.
For even living there, I don'tdeliver there no more.
I will never.
Even if I go back on the road,I will never deliver there again
.
I'm glad for my little five 600miles a day at my little farm
in Iowa and I'm glad that I stayin Iowa when I deliver.
That's all there is to it.
You guys are going to getscrewed every move you make

(05:40):
because they're trying to comeup with more money and more
ideas to rape you of your moneyand that's why, being the
largest industry in the world,we need to start acting like it,
because otherwise we're goingto continually get attacked by
people like this governor of NewYork California's doing the
same thing with electricity andall this other stuff.
We got to stay away from thatstuff and I know there's going
to be people who continuallydeliver to California.

(06:03):
But let them deal with theheadaches.
You guys don't need that.
You really don't.
Good, logical, hardworking,good thinkingthinking truck
drivers do not need the extraheadache just to make a living,
to go home to your families oncein a while and say, hi, it's
crazy and we shouldn't do it,and I hope most of you won't.
Now I wanted to bring upsomething else that Trucker News

(06:23):
had brought up about a guy bythe name of Caleb Hammett
H-A-M-M-E-T-T.
If you want to Google it, hehas a 2019 Peterbilt 389 named
Best of Show at Super Rigs.
Now, I don't think it falls inthe category of antique I'm
almost sure it doesn't, becauseantique is 30 years or more but
they have all kinds of differentawards they give out at these

(06:45):
truck shows.
His was named Best of Show atSuper Rigs.
If you want to check out histruck, go to truckernewscom.
It says here Caleb Hammett ofDodge City, texas, captured the
best show honors with his 2019Peterbilt 389, nicknamed Haas,
at the 42nd annual Shell RotellaSuper Rigs competition held May

(07:07):
30th through June 1st at TexasMotor Speedway in Fort Worth.
He was awarded $10,000 fromShell Rotella.
In addition, the truck won theBest Lights category.
And for all of you that say youknow you don't need chrome yeah
, you do.
You don't need lights oh, yeah,you do.
Maybe you want to be a bigtruck going down the road.
You got to have all that stuff,but if you don't, you can dream

(07:28):
about it and one day you mightget lucky enough.
Jr Shugler from Britt, iowa wonBest of Show, first Runner-Up
and $4,000 from Shell for his1984 Kenworth W900B.
I looked at both of them and Ilike the 1984 Kenworth W900B.
Nothing against Caleb andCaleb's 2019.

(07:51):
Nothing against it all.
I'm just real fancy on them.
Older trucks and I you know, Iknow they have a classic
division, so we'll leave it atthat.
Additional first place winnersinclude Tarek Al-Amin II I guess
he's the second from Crete,illinois, in the tractor-trailer
division with his 2023 KenworthW900L.
That's kind of weird.

(08:11):
2023, should that even qualifyMust be a new category.
Gary Jones from Lawson,missouri, in his tractor
division in 2018, peterbilt 389.
Alex Shugler from Britt, iowa,won the classic division with
his 2005 Kenworth W900L.
Brandon McClinnis from Montalba,texas, won the Steve Sturgis

(08:33):
Best Theme Award with the 1985Mack Superliner RW613.
You can find all of thoseonline.
You just look up those names,go to truckernewscom, read the
story, look up the names.
I bet you it'll show theirtrucks.
You might even have a placeonline to follow these guys.
I would definitely follow the1985 Mack and I would definitely

(08:54):
follow the 1984 Kenworth W900B,because that's just that's
what's in my heart the classictrucks, the ones that were made
completely from scratch anddefinitely have the style and
the stability to last for yearsand years and years.
Jeff Hawker from Dixon, iowa,won the People's Choice Award.
The winner was selected withvoting taking place online.

(09:17):
For every People's Choice Votecast this year, shell donated $1
to the St Christopher TruckersRelief Fund.
Hucker also won the Non-WorkingShow Truck Award.
Best of Show Caleb Hammett.
Best of Show first runner-upJunior Shugler of Britt Iowa.
Best of Show second runner-upErnie Adams of New Florence,

(09:39):
pennsylvania, with his 1982Kenworth W900.
Non-working show truck, ofcourse, was Jeff Hawker.
And then first place classicdivision, alex Shugler with the
2005 Kenworth W900L.
He won $1,500 from ShellRotella.
But the list goes on and on, andif you read the story you'll be
amazed, because that kind ofstuff is really interesting.

(10:02):
I don't know if you guys hitany truck shows this spring into
summer or not, but you reallyneed to because there's plenty
of them out there.
Now, most of you probably knowthat whenever you get a response
on a situation on social media,let's say Facebook, and
somebody responds to you aboutsomething you know to be
emphatically correct and theytell you you're incorrect.

(10:23):
Just remember, there are plentyof stupid people in the world.
That's all you need to know.
It doesn't matter whetherthey're wrong or right, they
just want to open up their faceand they want to upset you.
I commented about some boardsthat came out of a flatbedder
and the guy had to repositionhis load and they filmed it.
The boards came out at thecenter of squared up long boards

(10:46):
on a flatbed.
Now they came out of the center, which means it was banded
tightly when it was loaded ontothe truck and it was also
strapped down correctly by thetruck driver.
The only problem is the centerof the boards started pooching
out and coming out and hittingthe ground because, well, when
you hit the brakes they come outpretty fast.
But here's what I'm trying toget at.

(11:07):
Whenever those boards aresquared off like that even long
boards, and they're real skinnyboards and they're squared off
with banding, before they'reeven loaded on the truck, they
have to be positioned withinthemselves, the center of that,
very tightly, otherwise the onesin the middle will be loose and
then minute you hit the brakesit'll shoot off the truck.
It's a known fact.

(11:27):
By any flat better out therethey'll tell you that squared
off long board pallet sizedthing that they put on the truck
.
Once it's put on the truck andthose boards are loose, they're
going to come out out no matterwhat.
Even on a slow break they'regoing to start pooching out.
And now a good tarp would havekept them from sliding out,
because it wasn't a bunch ofthem, it was just a few of them
that came out of the centerbecause the square bail was not

(11:49):
done correctly when they did itat the factory, when they put
them together and then loaded iton the truck.
And I told the guys, I said,look, it's not a trucker tie
down issue, it is a factoryissue.
When they put those togetherthey should have made sure the
center of those boards were intheir rock solid, and if they
weren't, they should haveunbanded them and restacked them
.
But no, they had to go off andsay, oh, I'm right, I'm right,

(12:10):
you know.
You don't know what you'retalking about and all these
other stuff.
Comment I get about no.
Comment after comment aftercomment.
My ultimate goal on socialmedia is to make a comment and
then leave it alone.
I don't even look at theresponse 90% of the time, simply
because of the fact that I knowthat there's going to be some
jack off out there.
It's going to open their faceand they're going to be right,
no matter what you do.
They're probably the ones thatgo home, get in their underwear,

(12:33):
watch TV and beat up on theirold lady while he's screaming at
her to make him a sandwich.
And there is some foolish womanout there that'll do it.
But that's the whole point I'mtrying to get at.
Ladies and gentlemen, most ofyou guys out there are
level-headed.
You understand the logistics ofloading a trailer, whether it
be a box trailer, a reefertrailer or a flatbed trailer.
And the point is if you do notload that load correctly, okay,

(12:56):
which is another reason whyyou're supposed to check your
load.
Yes, the driver is responsibleto make sure that the center
board's in that square.
They're locked in there reallytight with those bands.
Now, had he put a tarp on there, they would have pooched out a
little bit, but they would havestopped at the tarp because
there wasn't enough boards tomove forward.
To rip through the tarp is whatI was telling them.
They just kept going on and onand wanted to hammer down.

(13:17):
See, this is what I talk aboutwhen I talk about angry truck
drivers.
These people number one do notbelong on the road and number
two, they do not understand thelogistics of loading a trailer
and the logistics of actuallygetting a load ready to be put
on a trailer.
If you put a thousand boxes onpallet and every single one of
these boxes that you load onthat pallet go into the truck

(13:38):
but they're by themselves inthat box with no cushion
whatsoever, nothing to keep themfrom moving in that box.
That load is consideredunstable, even though they're in
a box.
And you know darn well, all youcan see is the box.
You're not Superman, you don'thave x-ray vision.
So you load the thing up, youget on the road, you get to
where you're going.
The entire load is shifted allover the place because the stuff
inside the box was not securedinside the box.

(14:01):
Therefore it moved around everytime you hit the brakes, made a
turn and all that other goodstuff.
That's what I'm getting at.
The manufacturer has to makesure that the load they're
loading on your truck is secure,and you can prove in court,
believe me, I've seen it ahundred times.
You can prove in court.
The shipper are the ones thatdid not secure the load while
they put it in the box.

(14:21):
That's all I'm trying to get at.
But my main purpose of tellingyou guys this is when you
comment on something, walk away.
If somebody comments back toyou and it's ignorant, let it go
, because no matter what youthrow at them, it doesn't matter
how much logic you throw atthem, they're going to think
they're right and they're goingto call you all kinds of names,
and that's the one thing whenyou really know you've won.

(14:42):
The argument is when they startcalling names, just like in
politics.
I'm Walter Gatlin with Roland18 Podcast.
You guys have a great time outthere, god bless, be safe and,
as always, keep it between thelines.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Driver always keep it between the lines, driver.
Thank you for listening toRoland 18 Podcast.
Please visit my website atmediaiowacom or the podcast page
at roland18podcastcom.
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